PBS NewsHour; June 8, 2020, 3:00pm-4:00pm PDT

- Caioning sponsored by - NEWSHOUR PRODUCTIONS, LLC - >> Woodruff: GOOD EVENING, I'M - JUDY WOODRUFF. - ON THE NEWSHOUR TONIGHT, A - MASSIVE MOMENT-- LAW ENFORCEMENT - ILSTEPS BACK AND PEACE PREAS - HUGE CROWDS GATHER NATIONWIDE TO - PROTEST POLICE BRUTALITY AND - SYSTEMIC RACISM. - TH A, DEFUNDING THE POLICE-- - MAJOR EFFORT TO REALLOCATEUR - RESOCES TAKES HOLD NATIONWIDE. - WE EXAMINE THE PRACT - REALITIES OF THE PROPOSED - REFORMS TO INVEST IN - COMMUNITIES.IA - PLUS, ESSENTL WORK-- DESPITE - THE SKS OF THE CORONAVIRUS - PANDEMIC AND A FUNDING SHORTAGE, - THE POSTAL SERVICE CONTINUES TO - CARRY OUT ITS CRITICAL DUTIES. - >> WE PRAYHAT WE'RE COVERED - THROUGH THE DAY AND THAT WE CAN - BE AT WORK AND WORK SALY AND - RETURN HOME TO OUR FAMILY - SAFELY. - >> Woodrf: ALL THAT AND MORE - ON TONIGHT'S PBS NEWSHOUR.

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- YAMICHE ALCINDOR BEGINS OUR - COVERAGE.in - >> Ar: LINES OF PEOPLE - SNAKED AROUND HOUSTON'S FOUNTAIN - OF PRAISE CHURCH, AS FAMILY, - FRIENDS, AND STRANGERS PAID - THEIR FINAL RESPECTS TO GEORGE - FLOYD. - SEPARATELY, THE PRESE - DEMOCRATIC PRESIDENTIAL NOMINEE - JOE BIDEN AND HIS WIFE JILL MET - PRIVATELY WITH FLOYD'S FAMILY. - MEANWHILE, IN MINNEAPOLIS, DEREK - CHAUVIN, THE NOW-FIRED POLICE - OFFICER WHO PINNED FLOYD TO THE - GROUND WITH A KNEE ON HIS NECK, - AND HIS FIRST URT APPEARANCE. - HE FACES AN UPGRADED CHARGE OF - SECOND-DEGREE MURDER. - FLOYD'S DEATH TWO WEEKS AGO - HAS SPARKED NATIONWIDE AND NOW - GLOBAL PROTESTS AGAINST POLICE - BRUTALITY AND SYSTEMIC RACISM. - IN THE U.S., MASSIVE PEAFUL - PROTESTS CONTINUE ACROSS THE - COUNTRY, FROM SMALL TOWNS AND - SUBURBS TO THOUSANDS IN LARGE - CITIES LE LOS ANGELES, WHERE - AN ESTIMATED 20,000 PEOPLE CAME

- OUT ON SUNDAY. - L-A PROSECUTEDDERS ANNOUNCE THED - WOULD NOT CHARGE THOUSANDS OFES - PROTESTORS ARD FOR CURFEW - AND OTHER VIOLATIONS. AND IN - SENATOR MITT ROMNEY OF UTAHICAN - MARCHED WITH PROTESTORS NEAR THE - WHITE HOUSE. - TODAY IN WASHINGTON. - >> TDA - IN WASHINGTON: - >> THE WORLD IS WITNESSING THE - BIRTH OF A NEW MOVEMENT IN OUR - COUNTRY. - >> Alcindor: ...CONGRESSIONAL - DEGCRATS INTRODUCED A SWEEP - SET OF POLICING REFORMS IN - PROTESTERS' DEMANDS.ATH AND - THE JUSTICE IN POLICING ACT BANS - CHOKEHOLDS; DEVELOPS A NATIONAL - STANDARD FOR USE OF FORCE; - LIMITS THE TRANSFER OF MILITARY - WEAPONS TO POLICE DEPARTMENTS; - DEFINES LYNCHING AS A FEDERAL - HATE CRIME; ESTABLIS - NATIONAL POLICE MISCONDUCT - REGISTRY; AND, LIMITS QU, IFIED - IMMUNIICH PROTECTS - OFFICERS FROM LAWSUITS OVERD - ALLESCONDUCT. - CONGRESSMAN HAKEEM JEFFRIES OF - NEW YORK IS AMONG THOSE .ADING - THE PU - >> ALL WE'VE EVER WANTED IS TO - BE TREATED EQUALLY. - NOT BETTER, NOT WORSE. - EQUALLY.

- WHHAS THAT BEESO DIFFICULT - TO ACHIEVE? - THAT'S ALL WE'VEVER WANTED. - WORLD IS THEY-- THEY - LED A ROUND TABLE WITH LAW - ENFORCEMENT OFFICIALS. - HE AND HIS CAMPAIGN HAVE - ATTACKED DEMOCRATS INCLUDING - VICE PRESIDENT BIDEN FOR WANTING - TO QUOTHTE DEFUNE POLICE. - >> THERE WON'T BE DEFUNDING. - THERE WON'T BE DISMANTLING OF - OUR POLICE. - THERE IS NOT GOING TO BE ANY - DISBANDING OF OUR POLICE. - OUR POLICE HAVE BEEN LETTING USE - LIVE INCE. - >> TODAY BIDEN'S CAMPAIGN PUSHED - >> Alcindor: TODAY, BIDEGNS - CAMPAI PUSHED BACK AND SAID HE" - DOES NOT BELIEVE THE POLICE - SHOULD BE DEFUNDED." - IN MINNEAPOLIS, NINE OF THE 13 - CITY COUNCIL MEMBERS HAVE CALLED - FOR DISMANTLING THE POLICE - DEPARTMENT AND REPLACING IT WIT - A NEW PUBLIC SAFETY SYSTEM. - OTHER PROPOSALS, BACKED BY

- PROGRESSIVE ACTIVISTS AND A FEW - ELECTED OFFICIALS DO NOT CALL - FOR POLICE DEPARTMENTS TO BE - FULLY ABOLISHED.H - INSTEAD THEY PATE AND - LOCAL GOVERNMENTS TO DECREASE - POLICE BUDGETS, WHILE INCREASING - SPENDING ON THINGS LIKE - EDUCATION AND HOUSING. - NOW OUTSIDE THE WHITE - HOUSE PEOPLE HAVE GATHERED TO - PROTEST FOR YET ANOTHER DAY. - THEY'VE BE - THAN A WEEK.FOR MORE - THEY TELL ME THAT THEY ARE GOING - HERE UNTIL AMERICA CONFRONTS INR - A MEANINGFUL WAY THE DEVASTATING - AND OFTEN DEADLY IMCT OF - RACISM, JUDY. - >> Woodruff: - >> Woodruff: IN THE DAY'S OTHER - NEWS, NEW YORK CITY BEGAN A - GRADUAL REOPENING FOR UP TO - 400,000 WORKERS, AFTER MONTHS OF - PANDEMIC RESTRICTIONS. - AT ITS PEAK, IN APRIL, THE - DISEASE KILLED MORE THAN 500

- PEOPLE A DAY IN NEW YORK. - THE NUMBER NOW IS IN THE SINGLE - DIGITS. - MEANWHILE, IN GENEVA, THE WORLD - HEALTH ORGANIZATION WARNED THAT, - GETTING WORSE.PANDEMIC IS STILL - >> I KNOW MANY OF US WOULD LIKE - THIS TO BE OVER, AND I KNOW MANY - SITUATIONS ARE SEEING POSITIVE - SIGNS, BUT IT IS FAR FROM OVER. - ACTIVITIES, WE NEED TO BUILD UP - THE ACTIVITIES AND - INFRASTRUCTURE THAT IN - PLACE IN MANY COUNTRIES AND - CONTINUES TO NOT BE IN PLACE INC - MANTRIES. - G Woodruff: ELSEWHERE, INDIA - BEGAN REOPENLLS, HOTELS - AND PLACES OF WORSHIP, DESPITE - REPORTING NEARLY 10,000 NEW - CASEOF COVID-19. - BUT, NEW ZEALAND ANNOUNCED IT - HAS ERADICATED THE VIRUS. - WALL STREET'S RALLY STARTED ITS - FOURTH WK TODAY, ON OPTIMISM - THAT THE WORST OF THE PANDEMIC - RECESSION IS OVER. - THE DOW JONES INDUSTRIAL AVERAGE - GAINED 461 POINTS TO CLOSE AT - 27,572. - THE NASDAQ ROSE 110 POTS, AND,

- THE S&P 500 ADDED 38. - IN PARIS, WORK BEGAN TOD TO - CLEAR 200 TONS OF MELTED - SCAFFOLDING ATOP NOTRE DAME - CATHEDRAL. - IT HAD BEEN INSTALLED FOR - RENOVATIONS BEFORE LAST YEAR'S - DISASTROUS FIRE. - CREWS WERE LOWERED INTO THE - WRECKAGE TODAY. - THEY WILL WORK THROUGH THE - SUMMER AND DISMANTLE - 40,000 PIECES OF CHARRED, - TWISTED METAL. - AND, A TROPICAL STORM THAT CAME - ASHORE SUNDAY ALONG THE U.S. - DEPRESSION, DUMPING RAIN AS IT - GOES. - FLOODING PARALYZED PARTS OF - MANDEVILLE, LOUISIANA TODAY. - COMMUNITIES NEAR NEW ORLEANS - WERE ALSO INUNDATED, ALONG WITH - CHRISTIAN, MISSISSIPPI. - STILL TO COME ON THE NEWSHOUR: - DEFUNDING POLICE-- A MAJORRE - EFFORT TLOCATE FUNDING TO - INVEST IN COMMUNITIES. - WE DISCUSS THE MASSIVE PROTESTS - AND POTENTIAL REFORMS WITH

- SENATOR CORY BOOKER. - DESPITE THE RISKS OF COVID 19, - THE POSTAL SERVICE AND DELIVERY - WORKERS CONTINUEITO CARRY OUT - AL DUTIES. - AND MUCH MORE. - >> Woodruff: AS WE'VE SE IN - MINNEAPOLIS, THERE'S A SHIFT - UNDERWAY IN SOME PLACES ON WHEN - PRACTICES.O REFORMING POLICE - NAMELY, SOME ARE ARGUING REFORM - DOES NOT WORK. - THAT'S BEHIND THE IDEA OF - "DEFUNDING THE POLICE." - IT INCLUDES A RANGE OF VIEWS. - THAT CAN MEAN SHIFTING MONEY AND - BUDGETS TO OTHER SOCIAL SERVICES - AGENCIES THAT MIGHT BE BETTERPP - EQ TO HANDLE ISSUES - ASSIGNED TO THE POLICE. - IN SOME CASES, PEOPLE ARE - CALLING FOR OUTRIGHT ABOLITION - OF POLICE DEPARTMENTS.

- WE'RE GOING TO SPEND SOME TIME - COULD MEAN.AT THESE CHANGES - CHARLENE CARRUTHERS IS AN - ORGANIZER WITH MOVEMENT FOR - BLACK LIVES AND AUTHOR OF - "UNAPOLOGETIC: A BLACK, QUEER - AND FEMINIST MANDATE FOR RADICAL - MOVEMENTS." - AND CHUCK WEXLER IS THE - ECUTIVE DIRECTOR OF THE POLICE - EXECUTIVE RESEARCH FORUM, AN - ORGANIZATION OF LAW ENFORCEMENTL - OFFI - AND WELCOME TO - BOTH OF YOU TO THE NEWSHOUR, - THANK YOU FOR BEING HERE. - CHARLENE CARRUTHERS, TO YOU - FIRST, WHAT IS IT THAT YOU WOULD - DEPARTMENTS ACROSSCOUNTRY?CE - HOW SHOULD THEY OPERATE. - >> SO FUNDAMENTALLY THE PROBLEM - THAT PEOPLE ARE RISING ACROSS - THE COUNTRY RIGHT NOW IS THE - ISSUE OF HOW MUCH OUR POLICE - DEPARTMENTS ARE INVESTED IN AND - HOW MUCH OUR COMMUNITIES ARE NOT - INVESTED IN. - SO WHAT I WOULD LIKE TO SEE - HAPPEN IN A CITY LIKE CHICAGO - WHERE I CURRENTLY LIVE, IS THAT - OUR OVER 1.7 BILLION BUDGET - WHICH AMOUNTS TO JUST UNDER 5

- MILLION DOLLARS A DAY BE GRELY - REALLOCATED AND INVESTED IN OUR - COMMUNITY AND OUPUBLIC - EDUCATION AND OUR HEALTH CARE - AND QUALITY PUBLIC HOUSING, JOBS - AND OUR ENVIRONMENT. - AND FRANKLY THAT'S NOT - HAPPENING. - WHAT WE ARE SEEING WITH POLICE - DEPARTMENTS IS SURLAVEE, - VIOLENCE, AND THE DEATH OF OUR - PEOPLE. - E.D THAT SIMPLY MUST CHA - AND WE KNOW THAT BANDAID REFORM - >> Woodruff: SO TO CLARIFY, - WHAT WOULD THE ROLE OF POLICE - BE.D - AND YOU WOAVE SOME MONEY - FOR POLICE WORKING ON CRIME THA - ISOMMITTED, RIGHT? - PROCESS TO LIVING A SOCIETYTHE - WHERE SAFETY EXISTS BEYOND - POLICING WILL TAKE A VERY-- IT - WILL TAKE TIME, IT WON'T HAPEN - OVERNIGHT. - LOCAL GOVERNM AND ALSO LOCALOUR - POLICE DEPARTMENTS COMMIT TO A - ESSENTIAL SAFETYSERVICES FROM - THE POWER AD CONTROL OF POLICE - DEPARTMENTS INTO OUR COMMUNITY. - THAT MEANS CRISIS RESPONSE, AND

- THAT ALSO MEANS WITH HOW WE DEAL - WITH VIOLENCE, CONFLICT AND HARM - MEANS THAT ACTUALLY, - EVENTUALLY, THE POLICE ARE NOT - UP TANCES OF CRISIS,VENE OR SHOW - CONFLICT, HARM OR VIOLENCE BUT, - AM FT, IT IS A COMMUNITY-BASED - RESPONSE THAT IS OUTSIDE OF - SYSTEMS OF POLIONCING, PRAND - JAIL. - >> Woodruff: CHUCK WEXLER, - WHAT ABOUT THICOS NCEPT OF - SHIFTING THESE KINDS OF - RESPONSIBILITIES, AT LST - INITIALLY, FOR ISSUES THAT - AROUND SITUATIONS AROUND MENTAL - HEALTH COUNSELING, DRUG - COUNSELING, IMMEDIATE YAITION, - THAT-- MEDIATION, THAT MONEY BE - SHIFTED TO OTHER SOCIAL SERVICE - AGENCIES. - >> WELL, ACTUALLY, I AGREE WITH - A LOT OF WHAT MISS CARRUTHERS - SAID IN TERMS OF, THIS IS - JOINT RESPONSIBILITY WITH THE - COMMUNITY. - MENTAL HEALTH, HOMELESS, DEALING - WITH THE OPIOID ISSUE, THIS - CAN'T BE DONE WITH THE POLICE - ALONE. - WE NEED THE COMMUNITY. - AND I AGREE WITH HER ABOUT - WE NEED TO GET KIDS TO HAVE - JOBS.

- WE NEED TO WORKING IN - COMMUNITY POLICING. - WE NEED TO BE DOING PROBLEM - SOLVIN - SO THERE IS NOT REALLY MUCH - WHICH I DISAGREE WITH MISS - CARRUTHERS. - EXCEPT FOR THE FACT THAT AT THE - SPOTLIGHT ON POLICE, THAT IS THE - TIME TO TAKE A HARD LOOK AT HOW - THEY DO THEIR JOB. - BUT WE ED THE POLICE, WE NEED - SMART POLICE, SO I DON'T - SAGREE WITH MISS CARRUTHERS - SAID ABOUT THE NEED TO HELP - PREVENT CRIME. - WE NEECOMMUNITY PEOPLE. - I'VE WORKED IN CHICAGO. - I KNOW THE CRISIS OF PEOPLE THAT - WORK, AND THEY PREVENT GANG - VIOLENCE. - THOSE PEOPLE IN CHIRE GANG - INTERRUPTERS THAT PREVENT - VIOLENCE. - WE NEED THEM. - BUT HERE IS WHERE WE TODAY. - WE HAD A HUGE INCIDENT IN - MINNEAPOLIS IT IS A DE FINING - MOMENT FOR THIS COUNTRY.BU - WE HAVE SOME CHOICES. - DO WE WALK AWAY FROM THE POLICE - OR DO WE SAY HEY, YOU KNOW WHAT, - WE TRIED TO HANGE THE POLICE. - BUT WE, THIS WAS AN EYE OPENER. - WHAT HAPPENED MINNEAPOLIS WAS - A TOTAL POLICE FAILURE. - BUT THERE ARE SOME GOODCOPS OUT - THERE.

- AND WHEN YOU ARE IN CRISIS WE - NEED A GOOD COP. - WE CAN'TUST WALK AWAY FROM - POLICE. - NOW IS THE TIME TO GET INTO - POLICING, TO DO PROEM SOLVING, - TO WORK WITH THE COMMUNITY, TO - BE BETTER AT WHAT WE DO. - CHARLENE CARRUTHERS, IN YOUR - VIEW, IS THIS A CHOICE BETWEEN - REFORMING POLICING FURTHER, WE - KNOW SOME REFORMS ARE CLEARLY - ALREADY INSTITUTED IT IS IT A - CHOICE BETWEEN REFORMING - WPOLICING AND JUST DOING - WITH POLICING OR HOW DO YOU SEE - IT? - SO ACTUALLY MR. WECHSLER AND - I HAVE FUNDAMENTAL - I ACTUALLY DO NOTELIEVE THAT - WE AGREE ABOUT THE ROLE OF THE - POLICE. - I DO NOT BELIEVE THAT WE SHOULD - HAVE A PARTNERSHIP BETWEEN - COMMUNITY AND THE POLICE IN - ORDER TO DEAL WITH CONFLICT, - HARM AND VIOLENCE IN OUR - COMMUNITY. - WHAT THAT POWER, THOSE DECISIONS - AND THAT RL INCLUDING THE - MONEY NEEDS TO ACTUALLY BE - COMPLETELY SHIFTED. - AND NOT JUST SOCIAL SERVICE - AGENCIES BECAUSE WE ALSO KNOW - AND UNDERSTAND THAT MANY SOCIAL - SERVICE AGENCIES ACT IN PROXY TO - THE POLICE DEPARTMENT ACROSS TH

- COUNTRY. - AND WHAT WE'RE SEEING IN - MINNEAPOLIS IS NOT SIMPLY A CASA - FEW BAD APPLES. - HE REALITY, WE KNOW THAT T - ENTIRE TREE IS ROTTEN. - IT HAS BEEN ROTTEN SINCE - POLICING WAS EVEN DEVELOPED IN - THIS COUNTRY. - WE KNOW ITS ORIGINS AS SERVING - AS SLAVE CATCHERS FOREIGN SLAVED - AFRICANS. - WE KNOW HOW POLICE PLAYED A - ROLE, A MAJOR ROLE IN JIM CROW. - WE KNOW HOW POLICE CONTINUE TO - PLAY A ROLE IN THE MASS INCAR - RAISE OF BLACK-- INCARCERATION - OF BLACKS PD BROPLE, WHAT - WE ARE TALKING ABOUT A RADICALLN - SHIFTING TRANSFORMING THE - WORLD THAT WE LIVE IN. - WE KNOW THAT DEFUNDING THE - POLICE IS ONE STEP, BUT ONE - ESSENTIAL STEP. - BECAUSE POWER, HOW IT WORKS IN - THIS WORLD IS TO ORGANIZE - RESOURCES, MEANING MONEY, AND - ORGANIZE PEOPLE. - AND SO WE'RE GOING TOWARDS THE - SOURCE OF WHAT WE KNOW THE - CORPORATIONS UNDD, AND, - POLICE UNIONS UNDERSTAND. - IS THAT WE'RE COMING TO SAY WE - WANT POWER SHIFTED INTO OUR - COMMUNITY.

- >> Woodruff: AND IN ESSENCE - CHUCK WEXLER WH I HR MISS - CARRUTHERS SAYING IS THAT POLICE - AS AN INTITUTION DOESN'T WORK - ANY MORE. - >> WELL, YOU KNOW, MAYBE IF I - WAS IN HER SHOES I MIGHT FEEL - THE SAME WAY. - TI DON'T TAKE AWAY ANYTHING SHEA - . - SHE HAS LIVED THIS, I HAVEN'T. - BUT HERE'S WHAT I KNOW AT THE - END OF THE DAYTHERE ARE 18,000 - POLICE DEPARTMENTS IN THIS - COUNTRY. - 90% OF US, 25 OFFICERS ARE LEFT - N HAVE NO GAID ON USE OF - FORCE. - WE PUT OUT GUIDE LINES ON USE OF - D RCE SIX YEARS AGO WE - BELIEVE IN THE SANK TIT OF HUMAN - LIFE. - WE BELIEVE IN THE DUTY TO - INTERVENE, RENDENG FIRST AID. - WE NEED HUMANE POLICE, WE DON'PL - HAVE N B. - IF YOU SAID IN MINNEAPOLIS WE'RE - ICE,G TO DES BAND THE POL - WHAT DOES THAT MEAN. - SWUB NEEDS TO RESPOND TO SOMEONE - WHEN THEY ARE IN CRISIS. - IF YOU NED A POLICE OFFICER AND - ARE YOU IN CRISIS, THERE IS - ABSOLUTELY NOTHING BETTER THAN N - GOOD COD ABSOLUTELY NOTHING - WORSE NAN A BAD COP.

- WE NEED POLICE IN SOCTY. - BUT WE NEED HUMANE POLICE, WE - NEED GOOD POLICE, WE NEED TO BE - WORKING WITH GROUPS LIKE YOURS - WE CANNOT DO THIS ALONE. - WE CANNOT CHANGE POLICE. - WE NEED THE COMMUNITY WH US - THIS WAS A DE FINING MOMENT IN - E MINNEAPOLIS BUT LET'S IS - MOMENT TO CHANGE AN INSTITUTION. - YOU KNOW, SOCIETY NEEDS POLICE. - WE NEED HUMANE POLICE. - WE'RE BETTER THAN WHAT HAPPENED - IN MINNEAPOLIS. - >> Woodruff: MISS CARRUTHERS, - WHAT ABOUT HIS POIN THAT AA - COUNTRY, AS A SOCIETY WE NEED - POLICE IN CRISIS SITUATIONS.L - >> SO I E ON THE SOUTH SIDE - OF CHICAGO. - AND EVERY SINGLEMYA - COMMUNITY IS SUR VAILED BY THE D - CHICAGO POLIPARTMENT. - BILLION DOLLAO THE CHICAGO A - POLICE DEPARTMENT EVERY SINGLE - DAY. - AT THE SAME TIME WE SEE STORY - AFTER STORY OF VIOLENCE THAT IS - HAPPENING IN OUR COMMUNITY. - THE POLICE ARE NOT KEENG US - SAFE. - ANY SEMBLANCE OF SAFETY THAT WE

- HAVE COMES FROM WITHIN OUR - COMMUNITY. - WE KNOW THINGS LIKE GOOD JOBS, - GOOD EDCATION, GOOD HEALTH - ESRE, MENTAL HEALTH CRISIS - ACTUALLY REDIOLENCE THAT - HAPPENS IN OUR COMMUNITIES. - AND TO MR. WECHSLER'S POINT, - IN CRISIS, IMAGINE THAT YOU ARE - BEING ASSAULTED BY YOUR PARTNER - OR ARE YOU IN THE MIDDLE OF A - MENTAL HEALTH CRISIS AND INSTEAD - OF A PERSON SHOWING UP WITH A - GUN AND A TASER AND AN ENTIRE - IT IS A AL SERVICE WORKER.HEM, - WORKER, IT IS A SECOND ALLIS - ASSAULT CRISIS-- SEXUAL ASSAULT - COUNTRIES IS RESPONDER. - MORE COPS THAN WEVESCHOOLS HAVE - COUNSELORS. - WHAT I AM SAYING HERE IS - SOMETHING THAT SOME - NEIGHBORHOODS AN COMMUNITIES - ALREADY KNOW. - WE KNOW WEALTHY COMMUNITIES AND - WHITE COMMUNITIES KNOW WHAT IT - IS LIKE TO ACTUALLY HAVE - RESOURADS INSF HAVING MORE - COPS. - AND THAT'S WHAT WE'RE TALKING - ABOUT HERE. - IT'S NOT A VISION THAT IS

- ITUNATTAINABLE. - S A VISION THAT INVITES MORE - COMMUNITY INTO THE PRESS. - >> Woodruff: CHUCK WEXLER, - FINAL WORD, IS THAT SOMETHING - THAT ISR WOKABLE? - >> I THINK THAT IS WORKABLE. - I THINK TEAMING UP, MEN MENTAL - HEALTH WORKERS WITH THE POLICE - CAN BE ABSOLUTELY WORKABLE.L - WE DON'T FKE WE HAVE A - MONOPOLY ON MENTAL HEALTH - ISSUES, BE DRUG ISSUES, ON - PEOPLE IN CRISIS. - BUT HERE'S THE REALITY. - IT IS 3:00 IN THE MORNING. - ARE THOSE OTHER SOCIAL SERVICE - AGENCIES WILLING TO STEP UP? - IF THEY ARE, COME JOIN US, WE - NEED ALL THE HELP WE CAN GET.f: - >> WoodrELL, WE - CERTAINLY HEAR YOU BOTH IT IS A - CONVERSATION ONGOING FOR - SOMETIME TO COME. - CARRUTHERS, WE THANK YOU BOTH. T - NK YOU. - >> Woodruff: WHILE "DEFUND THE - POLICE" HAS BECOME A RALLYING

- CRY FOR BLACK LIVES MATTER - ACTIVISTS AND SOME OF THE - THOUSANDS OF PROTESTERS ACROSS - THE COUNTRY, DEMOCRATS - CONGRESS ARE CONSIDERING A - DIFFERENT SET OF PROPOSALS. - AMNA NAWAZ HAS MORE ON THAT. - AND JUST TODAY, THE NEW JERSEY - STATE ATTORNEY GENERAL RELEASED - VIDEO OF THE FATAL SRMOTING OF - AN U BLACK MAN, MAURICE - GORDON, BY A WHITE STATE TROOPER - LAST MONTH. - IT HAPPENED JUST TWOKIAYS BEFORE - THING OF GEORGE FLOYD IN - MINNEAPOLIS. - IN CONGRS, MORE THAN 200 HOUSE - AND SENATE DEMOCRATS HAVE SIGNED - ONTO THE "JUSTICE IN POLICING - ACT." - AS WLAID OUT EARLIER IN THE - PROGRAM, IT WOULD, AMONG OTHER - THINGS: BAN CHOKEHOLDS. - END NO-KNOCK WARRANTS IN DRUG - CASES. - MANDATE POLICE TRAINING ON - RACIAL BIAS. - AND COLLECT DATA AT THE FEDERAL - LEVEL ON THE USE OF FORCE. - ONE OF THE BILL'S SPONSORS IS - SENATOR CORY BOOKER OF NEW - JERSEY, AND HE JOINS ME NOW. - WELCOME BACK TO - THE NEWSHOUR, LET'S TALK ABOUT - THIS LEGISLATION NOW BECAUSE - THERE ARE SOME ELEMENTS IN HERE - AT HAVE BEEN ON THE TABLE - BEFORE, EFFORTS TO STOP

- MILITARIZATION OF POLICETO END - RACIAL PROFILING. - NEITHER OF THOSE BILLS CAME TO A - VOTE UNDER PRESSURE FROM POLICE - UNIONS AND OTHERS. - SOHAT IS DIFFERENT ABOUT THE - PROPOSALS NOW OTHER THAN THE - MOMENTS IN WHICH THEY ARE BEINGO - BROUGHARD? - >> WELL, I THINK FIRST OF ALL - THE MOMENT IS THE MESSAGE THAT - WE HAVE TOAY - THERE HAS BEEN NO GREAT BILLS OF - FROM WORKERS' RIGHTS TO CIVIL - RIGHTS, LGBTQ RIHTS, THAT - HASN'T HAD LARGE SCALE EFFORTS, - MASS MOBILIZATION OF NONVIOLENT - PROTESTERS. - CHANGE DOESN'T COME FROM - WASHINGTON, CHANGE COM TO - WASHINGTON. - SO WHEN YOU HAVE HUNDREDS OF - THOUSANDS IF NOT MILLIONS OFGA - AMERICANS NG IN NORMS OF - NONVIOLENT PROTEST IN ALL 50 - STATES, MULTIRACIAL,IG - MUERATIONAL, - MULTIGENERATIONAL COALITION THIS - BILL WOULDN'T HAVE GOTTEN MANY - COSPONSORS A MONTH AGO, NOW HAS - TWO THIRDS OR MORE OF THE - DEMOCRATS IN SENATE AND A - HUNDRED PLUS, CLOSE CLSING TO - 200 HOUSE MEMBERS. - SO THIS BILL HAS A LOT MOREO

- MOMENTUM. - AND YOU ARE RIGHT, AND THAT IS - ALMOST A RIDICULOUS REALITY. - IS THAT MANY OF THESE COMMON - SENSE IDEAS IN THIS BL HAVE - BEEN AROUND FOR DECADES OF - PEOPLE DEMANDING THOSE THE - CHANGE TO HAPPEN. - NOW THE DEMAND HAS GROWN LOUDER - SOME OF THESE PRACTICES THAT - SHOULD HAVE BEEN BANNED DECADES, - BELIEVE WE NOW HAVE A - CHANCE OF GETTING IT DONE. - >> YOU MENTIONED THE COSPONSORS, - ST WORTH POINTING OUT YOU DON'T - HAVE A SINGLE REPUBLIT N - COSPONSOR THOSE MANY THAT - YOU LISTED RIGHT THERE. - WHY NOT? - YOU PRIDE YOURSELF ON REACHING - ACROSS THE AISLE, WORKING WITH - YOUR REESPUBLICAN COLLEAWHAT - ARE THEY TELLING YOU IS THEIR - HESITATION ON SIGNING ON TO - THIS.T - >> I WILL NOT A SPOTLIGHT ON - ANYBODY RIGHT NOW THAT I AM IN - GOOD FAITH NEGOTIATIONS WITH, - BUT I'M TALKING TO REPUBLICAN - COLLEAGUESCROSS THE AISLE. - IT IS A LONG PROCESS. - IT TOOK ME YEARS TO GET MANY OF - MY REPUBLICAN COLLEUES WHO - WERE EARLIER ON IN MY SENATE - CAREER, WHO WERE TALKING AGAINST - CRIMINAL JUSTICE FORM BUT - ULTIMATELY WE HAVE A BILL THAT - LIBERATED THOUSANDS OF PEOPLE - FROM PRSON.

- SOMETHING PEOPLE TOLD ME WAS - IMPOSSIBLE TO GET DONE. - SO AGAIN, THIS IS AT IS RIGHT. - AND THIS BILL SON THE RIGHT SIDE - OF HISTORY. - AND I KNOW THIS ISUST THE - BEGINNING. - THIS IS LESS THAN 24 HOURS SINCE - WE PRESENTED THIS BILL BUT NOW - WE GO TO, WITHOUT. - AND THE GREAT THING AGAIN IS - THAT THE COMMUNITY AT LARGE, IS - DEMANDING THESE CHANGES. - BEYOND PARTISANSHIP. - YOU SEE PEOPLE JUST SAYING THIS - IS RIGHT. - THAT WE DON'T HAVE NO-KNOCK - WARRANTS WHERE PLAIN CLOTHES - OFFICERS BARGE INTO PEOPLE'S - HOUSES, NS DRAWN. - THAT IS A RECIPE FOR DISASTE - LIKE BRNNA TAYLOR. - WE HAVE ALREADY SEEN A FEW DOZEN - POLICE DEPARTMENTS BAN THE KINDF - HOKE HOLDS THAT KILLED ERIC - GARNER. - THESE ARE VERY COMMON SENSE - THINGS AT A POLICE OFFICER - DOES HE GREEJOUS WRONG SHOULDN'T - HAVE VIRTUAL IMMUNITY IN FEDERA - COURT. - SO THESE ARE THINGS THAT THE - AVERAGE AMERICAN WOULD SAY ARE - COMMNSE, ENABLE US TO HOLD - PEOPLE ACCOUNTABLE, AND WILL - STOP THINGS LIKE TAMIR RICE - BEING SHOT AND KILLED BY A - POLICE OFFICER WHO WAS ON THE

- RGE OF BEING FRED FROM - ANOTHER POLICE DEPARTMENT AND - JUST DUCKED OUT OF THAT ONE AND - EINTO ANOTHER ONE BECAE HAVE - NO NATIONAL DATABASE OF - MISCONDUCT. - THESE ARE COMMON SENSE REFORMS - LIVES.ILL PROTECT PEO - AND IT IS THE RIGHT SIDE OF - HISTORY AND WE'RE GOING TO KEEP - FIGHTING UNTIL WE GET THEM DONE. - >> SENATOR BOOKER, I WANTED TO - ASK YOU ABUT THE OTHER - CONVERSATION AROUND THE POLICE - RIGHT NOW. - THAT IS THIS DEFUND THE POLICE - COMOVEMENT ANDVERSATION. - YOU SAID YOU WON'T USE THE - PHRASE BUT THAT YOU UNDERSTAND - THE SUSTANCE. - SO WHAT DOES THAT MEAN? - DO YOU BELRTVE POLICE - DENTS TODAY CONSTITUTE TOO - MUCH OF A LINE ITEM BUDGET, TOO - BIG OF A LINE ITEM BUDGET IN - LOCAL AND CI GOVERNMENTS. - FIRST OF ALL I'M I WATCHINGTR - P WEAPONNIZE THIS SLOG, THAT - IS NOT A CONVERSATION WE NEED - RIGHT NOW, WHAT WE NEED ASK TO - TALK TO THE REAL ISSUE GOING ON - IN OUR NATION,THAT WE ARE THE - OF THE GLOBAL POPULATION BUT ONE - OUT OF EVERY FOUR INCARCERATED - PEOPLE ARE HERE IN AMERICA, ONE - IN THRECE INCERATED WOMEN HERE - IN AMERICA.

- YOU GO INTO OUR PRISON AND SEE - WHO WE TREAT IN POLICE, AND - PRISONS AND JAIL. - IT ITHE MOST VULNERABLE IN OUR - SOCIETY. - WE NEED HELP. - WE OVERWHELMINGLY INCARS RATE - PEOPLE WITH MENTAL ILLNESS. - THAT IS NOT A POLICING PROBLEM, - THAT IS A HEALTH-CARE PROBLEM. - WE OVERWHELMSLY INCARCERATE - THOSRADDICTED TOUGS OVER AND - OVER AGAIN, COSTING US MILLIONS - TREATMENT. BEFORE THEY GE - THAT IS NOT A POLICE PROBLEM, - A MEDICAL CARE PROBLEM.BLEM AND - WE NOW CRIMINALIZE POVERTY IN - THIS COUNTRY AND E FOR YEARS. - ASK ANYBODY WHO HAS WARRANTS OUT - FOR THEIR ARREST BECAUSE THEY - COULDN'T AFFORD THE HUNDREDS OH - DOLLARS WO TRAFFIC - VIOLATION TICKETS THAT THEY - HAVE. - SO CLEARLY WE ARE A SOCIETTHAT - IS INVESTING IN THINGS, IT COSTS - TAXPAYERS MUCH MORE MOHAT - ARE AN AFFRONT TO HUMAN DIGNITY, - THAT DON'T ELEVATE HUMAN - POTENTIAL AND DON'T REFLECT OUR - COMMON VALUES. - SO I'M NOT GOING TO GET INTO - FALSE POLITICAL ARGUMENT. - WHAT I WANT TO GET INTO IS HOW - COMMUNITY IN OUR NATION, WHEN WE - CARE POR THOSE PEOPLE HURT AND - IN PAIN AND STRUGGLING AND HELP

- THEM TO AVOID THE NEED FORE - POLICE IN RST PLACE. - IF WE WERE MAKING INVESTMENTS. - >> I AM SORR TO CUT YOU OFF, I - KNOW YOUR TIME IS LIMITED. - I HEAR YOU SAYING YOU THINK - THOSE FUNDS SHOULD BE - REALLOCATED TO MEET THE PROBLEMS - ON THE FRONT END BUT THIS IS AN - ISSUE FOR MAYOR, THIS IS AN - ISSUE YOU HAVE HAD TO MAKE - BEFORE IN NEWARK BACK2010 - WHEN YOU WERE FACING A BUDGET - CRUNCH, YOU MADE THE DECISION TO - CUT ABOUT 150 POLICE OFFICERS - OUT OF THAT BUDGET CRUNCH AND - BACK THEN YOU SAID WHEN I FIRST - CAME IN WE WERDISARVING OU - CITY DEPARTMENTS TO PUSH MORE - RESOURCES INTO THE POLICE - OTHER MIERS TODAY COULD MAKE THE - SAME ARGUMENT, WAS THAT A - MISTAKE BACK THEN? - I THINK IT IS BECAUSE ARE YOU - DEALING WITH THIS AS IF IT IS A - ZERO SUM GAME. - THE REALITY IS WHAT WE STARTED - DOING TEND OF MY TERM YOAS R - IS EXPERIMENTING WITH BRINGING - IN THE PSYCHOLOGY OF IMINOLOGY - TO SEE IF WE COULD ATTACK SOME - OF THE PROBLEMS, DRUG CRIME, - DRUG VIOLENCE, NOT WITH POLICE - INTERVENTION BUT WITH COMMUNITY - SSTERVENTION AND WE SAW - TREMENDOUS SUCN THAT. - THIS IS NOT A ZERO SUM GAME,

- PULLING A DOLLAR FROM OE PLACE - AND PUTTING IT ANOTHER IT IS - ABOUT DECONFLICTING OUR SOCIETY, - IT'S AG OUT STOPPE - OVERRELIANCE ON POLICE, PRISONS - AND JAILS AND FINDING SOUTIONS, - EVIDENCE-BASED SOLUTIONS THAT - WORK. - AND IF WE KEEP CONSTRUCTING IT - IN A WAY THAT IT IS A ZERO SUM - GAME WE WILL START LINING UP - PEOPLE ON BOTH SIDES, IF WE TALN - LARGER WAY, THAT THERE IS A - WAY TO KEEP OUR SOCIETY MUCH - SAFER WITH T LESS USE OF - TAXPAYER DOLLARS, IN FACT, A - BETTER INVESTMENT, I CAN GIVE - YOU CASE AFTER CASE TO STUDY - CITIES FOR THE GREATER PART OF - MY 20S AND 30S. - I CAN SHOW YOU CITIES AND - COMMUNITIES THAT HAVE MADE THESE - SHOWN THAT THEY COULD SAVEAND - TAXPAYER DOLLARS, STOP CRIME - MORE THAN ANY POLICE CAN, AND - ELEVATE HUMAN POTENTIAL. - AND THAT IS WHAT WE SHOULD BE - HAVING A CONSTRUCTIVE KFERTIONZ - ABOUNVERSATION ABOUT. - >> BEFORE I LET YOU GO, VASE - PRESIDENT BIDEN HAS NOT YET - PICKED SOMEONE TO RUN ALONGSIDE - HIM. - GIVEN RACE RELISES ARE MOREY - URGENT PRIORR AMERICA

- RIGHT NOW, DOES HE NEED TO PICK - A BLACK WOMAN. - >> I AM NOT GOING TO TELL THE - NOMINEE FROM OUR PARTY WHO IUS - WITH BEING THE PRESIDENT - OF THE UNITED STATES, I'M NOT - GOING TO TELL HIM WHO HE HAS TO - PICK. - I THAT JOE BIDEN WILL PICK - SOMEONE WHO IS PREPARED TO BE - PRESIDENT OF THE UNITED STATES. - PICK SOMEONE WHO ELP TO - HEAL OUR COUNTRY AND BRING US - TOGETHER, AND SOMEONE WHO IS - QUALIFIED FOR THAT JOB. - I KNOW HE HAS A LOT ON HIS MIND - AND A LOT TO WEIGH. - IS IS THE MOST IMPORTANT - ELECTION OF OUR LIFETIME. - AND I TRUST THAT HE WILL MAKE - NOT JUST THE RIGHT DECISION - THIS CASE, BUT AS PRESIDENT OF - THE UNITED STATES HE WILL MAKE - MANY OF THE RIGHT DECISIONS TO - HELP OUR COUNTRY HEAL,OME - TOGETHER AND ENVISION AND - ESTABLISH A MORE BELOVED NATION. - >> SENATOR CORY BOOKER, DEMOCRAT - FROM THE STATE OF NEW JERSEY - JOINING US TODAY. - THANK YOU VERY MUCH, SENATOR. - >> THANK YOU. - THIS PANDEMIC, MILLIONS OFOF - PEOPLE ARE RELYING ON MAIL - CARRIERS AND DELERY WORKERS - FOR ESSENTIAL SUPPLIES. - THE POSTAL SERVICE, MEANWHILE,

- IS STRUGGLING FINANCIALLY, - SEEKING HELP FROM CORESS, AND - UNDER FIRE FROM THE PRESIDENT, - WHO SAYS HE WON'T BACK FINANCIAL - RELIEF, UNLESS THE POSTAL - SERVICE RAISES PRICES. - AMNA IS BACK WITH A REPORT BASED - ON TALKS WITH POSTAL AND - DELIVERY WORKERS ON THE - FRONTLINES EVERY DAY, ABOUT THE - RISKS THEY FACE, AND THE - CHALLENGE OF STAYING SAFE. - >> Nawaz: EVERY MORNING, IN - LOUISVILLE, MISSISSIPPI, LATONYA - OUTLAW AND THE MAIL CLERKS SHE - SUPERVISES AT THIS POST OFFICE - GATHER IN A CIRCLE. - OUTSIDE, AND SIX-FEET APART. E - >>FFECTIVE IMMEDIATELY AND - UNTIL FURTR NOTICE FOLLOW THE - >> Nawaz: IT'S THEIR DAILY - SAFETY PROTOCOL MEETING. - STANDARD, DURING THE PANDEMIC. - >> AVOID RINGING THE DOORBELL I. - POSSIB - >> Nawaz: LATONYA HAS ADDED - ANOTHER TEAM RITUAL... - >> WE START A PRAYER SAYING THAT - WE PRAY. - DAT, YOU KNOW, WE'RE COVE - THROUGH THE DAY AND THAT WE CAN - BE AT WORK AND WORK SAFELY AND - RETURN HOME TO OUR FAMILY - SAFELY. - >> Nawaz: LATONYA AND HER TEAM - ARE SOME OF THE 630,000 U.S. - POSTAL SERVICE WORKERS, SORTINGE - AND DELIRING MAIL TO MILLIONS - OF AMERICANS EVERY DAY.

- BUT THAT IS NOT WITHOUT RISK. - MORE THAN 2500 POSTAL SERVICE - EMPLOYS HAVE TESTED POSITIVE - FOR THE VIRUS AND, ACCORDING TO - 0 E AMERIC POSTAL WORKERS - UNION, MORE THANVE DIED. - THEY AREN'T THE FRLY ONES ON THE - TLINES, THEY JOIN, WORKERS - FROM COMPANIES LIKE FED-EX AND - U.P.S., WHO ARE AMONG THE - ESSENTIAL, WORKERS KEEPING - PEOPLE CONNECTED, DELIVERING - PACKAGES FROM SHUTTERED - BUSINESSES, GROCERIES TO - FAMILIES SHELTERING IN PLACE, - AND PRESCRIPTIONS STRAIGHTO - PATIENTS' DOORSTEPS. - >> U.P.S. CALLS ME A SERVICE - PROVIDER, BUT I'M A TRUCK - DRIVER. - I DELIVER PACKAGES FOR A LIVING. - >> DADA. - >> Nawaz: STEVE O'CONNELL HAS - BEEN WITH U.P.S. 15 YEARS, AND - SAYS HE'S NEVER BEEN BUSIER. - >> I GOTTA GO TO WORK - >> Nawaz: TEN TO 12 HOUR DAYS - ARE HIS NEW NORMAL. - >> I'LL HAVE NIGHTMARES OF THE - LOADS AND THE AMOUNT OF PACKAGES - THAT ARE IN THE TRUCK ON A DAILY - BASIS THAT YOU REALLY HAVE TO - STOP AND TAKE A DEEP BREATH WHEN - YOU SEE IT. - >> Nawaz: AND HE KNOWS THE RISK - HE'S SEEN IT UP CLOSE, AT THE - BOSTON U.P.S. FACILITY WHERE HE - WORKS.

- >> IT WAS JUST WEEKLY. - OUT AND ONE WOULD COME BACK AND - ANOTHER ONE WOULD GO OUT. - YOU WOULD ASK, WHERE IS THIS - GUY? O - OH, HE ON COVID. - >> Nawaz: ACCORDING TO - O'CONNELL'S UNION, TEAMSTERS - LOCAL 25, FIVE EMPP.YEES AT THAT - FACILITY TESTED POSITIVE - FOR COVID-19 AND ANOTHER FIVE P - WESUMPTIVE POSITIVES. - U.P.S. TOLD THE NEWSHOUR THATT - THEY DO SCLOSE POSITIVE - CASES TO THE MEDIA AND SAID IN A - STATEMENT THAT THEY ARE - VIGILANTLY TAKINS TO - PROTECT THE HEALTH AND WELFARE - OF EMPLOYEES, CUSTOMERL AND THE - GENEBLIC. - BUT BACK IN MARCH, O'CONNELL - RRIES HE CARRIED THE VIR - HOME FROM WORK. - HIS WIFE HANNA WAS DIAGNOSED BY - TESTING NEGATIVE.OVID 19 DESPITE - JUST 33-YEARS-OLD, SHE WAS HIT - HARD. - >> WATCHING HER AND TRYING TO - WALK FROM THE COUCH TO THE - THROOM AND THEN COME BACK IN - TEARS BECAUSE SHE N'T BREATHE. - AND WITH THE TWO YEAR OLD - RUNNING AROUND AND HE DOESN'T - UNDERSTAND WHAT'S WRONG WITH HIS - MOM. - >> Nawaz: TODAY HANNA IS SLOWLY - RECOVERING.

- AND AFTER TWO WEEKS OF SELF- - QUARANTINING, O'CONNELL IS NOW - BACK AT WORK. - WEARING THIS "BOSTON STRONG" - MASK FOR PROTECTION, IN A PLACE - HE SAYS SOCIAL DISTANCING IS - NE IMPOSSIBLE. - >> EVERY TRUCK IS RIGHT NEXT TO - EACH OTHER. - EVERYONE'S CRAMMED IN A HALLWAY - TOGETHER TRYING TO GET, YOU - KNOW, THE BOARD IN THE MORNING. - AND THERE ARE GUYS IN MY - BUILDING WHO HAVE KIDS WITH - BRAIN TUMOR AS WIVES WHO'S GOT - OVER BREAST CANCER. - AND THEY'RSCARED TO DEATH. - EY DON'T WANT TO BRING THE - VIRUS HOME. - >> Nawaz: AS A SHOPPER FOR - SHIPT, ARGET'S DELILVERY - SERVICE, WILLY SOLISS AN - ESSENTIAL WORKER RIGHT NOW. - BUT THE JOB IS ESSENTIAL FOR HIM - TOO. - K I HONESTLY OPEN UP MY B - ACCOUNT TO SEE HOW MUCH MONEY IS - THERE AND FIGURE OUT IF IT'S - SOMETHING THAT I HAVE TO GO OUT - VENTURE OUT INTO THE INT - THE WORLD TO KIND OF EXPOSE - MYSELF TO MAKE MONEY. - TOY'S ONE OF THOSE DAYS, I - >> Nawaz: SOS, WHO IS - RITUALS TO STAY SA HAS HIS OWN - BEFORE ENTERING A STORE, HE - REPEATS HIS RULES, TO REDUCE HIS - >> REMEMBER SOCIALNCING. - REMEMBER TO GIVE YOU YOURSELF - SOME SPACE.

- SIX FEETPART. - >> AFTER HE LEAVES EACH STORE... - >> Nawaz: ...AN EXHAUSTIVE - DECONTAMINATION: DISINFECTANT - SPRAY ON HIS CLOTHES AND EVEN - WASHING HIS CLOTHES AND - SHOWERING ONCE BACK IN HIS HOME. - IT'S STRESSFUL, HE SAYS, BUT HE - CAN'T AFFORD TO STOP WKING. - >> IF IT WASN'T FOR THE LIMITED - AMOUNT TIMES THAT M OUT THERE, - I WOULDN'T HAVE ANY MONEY TO PUT - HIM GAS IN MY CAR OR FOOD ON THE - TABLE. - >> Nawaz: THE WORK OF NTESE - ESL WORKERS CAN SEEM - THANKLESS. - THEIR CUSTOMERS ARE HIDDEN D - BEHIRS-- THE LESS CONTACT, - THE SAFER THEY ALL STAY. - BUT MORE AND MOR DURING THIS - PANDEMIC, SOME CUSTOMERS ARE - FINDING WAYS TO CONNECT, ANDTU - SHOW THEIR GRA TO THE - WORKERS THEY'VE COME TO RELY ON. - IN SIOUX FALLS, SOUTH DAKOTA, 11 - YEAR OLD EMERSON WEBER, AN AVID, - DECIDED TO WRITE ONE TO HER OWN - MAIL CARRIER, DOUG. - WHY DIYOU DECIDE TO WRITE HIM - A LETTER? - L, I DIDN'T KNOW HIS NAM - OR ANYTHING ABOUT HIM. - AND I KNEW HE SAW A LOT OF - LETTERS, BUT HE MAY NOT RECEIVE - A LOT.NT

- SO I JUST TO PUT IT IN - THERE TO BRIGHTEN HIS DAY DURING - WORK AS HE WAS PICKING UP MY - LETTERS. - >> Nawaz: DOUG SHARED THE LETTES - WITHOSS. - WHO SHARED IT WITH MORE - COLLEAGUES. - WHO SHARED IT WITH MORE. - NEXT THING SHENEW? - EMERSON WAS GETTING LETTERS FROM - POSTAL WORKERS ACROSTHE ENTIRE - COUNTRY.TH - E ARE PEOPLE WRITING AND - THINGS LIKE I WORK ALONE IN A - SMALL RURAL ST OFFICE. - PEOPLE WRITE LITTLE THING. - MY KIDS ALL LIVE FAR AWAY. - STRANGERS WOULD OPEN UP LIKE - THAT? - >> I CERTAINLY DIDN'T. - >> Nawaz: HER FATHER, HUGH - WEBER: - AS A FAMILY, JUST READ THEM ALL - ALOUD. - AND IT WAS EMOTIONAL AT TIMES - AND IT WAS ALSO THIS MOMENT W - RECOGNIZING CH WE NEEDED - THAT KIND OF ECHO BACK. - >> Nawaz: NEW CONNECTIONS MADE, - EVEN AS OLD ONES ARE TESTED. - AT THE END OF EVY DAY FOR - LATONYA OUTLAW, ANOTHER RITUAL - BEFORE SHE CAN GREET HER TWO - YOUNG CHILDREN... - >> AND I ALWAYS TRY TO KEEP THAT - DISTANCE BEFORE I ACTUALLY GOMY - AND GELF READY FOR THE END - OF THE DAY. - >> Nawaz: IS THAT ODD FOR YOU TO - NOT WALK IN THE DOOR AND - IMMEDIATELY BE ABLE TO HUG YR - KIDS? - >> IT IS VERY ODD AND IT'S

- COURSE, THEY'RE THERE WITH OPEN - INMS AND, YOU KNOW, IT'S HURTFUL - TO A CEREGREE. - BUT I KNOW WE HAVE TO MAINTAIN - THAT DISTANCE JUST FOR A SHORT - PERIOD OF TIME UNTIL I CAN GET - MYSELF IN A POSITION I - FEEL SAFE ENOUGH TO GIVE THEM - HUGS AND KISSES. - >> Nawaz: FOR THE PBS NEWSHOUR - I'M AMNA NAWAZ. - >>DEoodruff: THE SHEER MAGNI - OF PROTESTS IN THE STREETS HAS - RAISED A PUBLIC HEALTH QUESTION - OVER THE PAST WEEK OR - IF PEOPLE ARE NOT SOCIAL - DISTANCING AND THEY'RE GATHERING - IN T THOUSANDS AND TENS OF - THOUSANDS, AREN'T PEOPLE - EXPOSING THEMSELVES TO A GREATER - RISK OF COVID? - D HOW SHOULD THAT RISK B - WEIGHED AGAINST PUBLIC HEALTH - CONCERNSVER THE LIVES AND - LIVING CONDITIONS OF AFRICAN- - AMERICANS? - LISA DESJARDINS EXPLORES.OME OF - THAT N - >> Desjardins: JUDY, THOSE - ESTIONS ARE PART OF WHAT - PROTESTERS, PHYSICIANS, AND

- PUBLIC HEALTH ECIALISTS HAVE - BEEN WEIGHING AS PEOPLE - MOBILIZE. - IN FACT, NEARLY 1300 PUBLIC - HEALTH PROFESSIONALS SIGNED A - LETTER SUPPORTING THE PROTESTS, - ARGUING THAT SYSTEMIC RACISM HAD - CONTRIBUTED TO OR LED TO A - DISPROPORTIONATE NUMBER OF - DEATHS AMONG AFRICAN-AMERICANS. - MORE THAN 20,000 AFRICAN- - AMERICANS HAVE DIED FROM COVID - ALREADY. - DR. GEORS BENJAMIN IS - EXECUTIVE DIRECTOR OF THE - AMERICAN PUBLIC HEALTH - ASSOCIATION. - DR. BENJAMIN, I WANT TO START - RIGHT AWAY WITH HOW WE BALANCE - THESE TWO THIN - THESE PROTESTS ARE HAPPENING - ABOUT A PUBLIC HEALTH CRIRISIS, - N-AMERICANS BEING KILLED - OR HARMED BY POLICE. - BUT THEY'RE ALSO HAPPENING IN A - PUBLIC HEALTH CRISIS, THE - CORONAVIRUS. - HOW DO YOU WEIGH THOSE TWO - THINGS? - >> YOU KNOW, IT IS A DIFFICULT - DECISION. - BUT PEOPLE HAVE TO MAKE A

- THCISION, RECOGNIZING THAERE - IS A RISK OF GOING OUT. - THEY MAY GET INFECTED. - T THEALLENGE IS THAT - PARTICULARLY AFRICAN-AMERICANS - ARE FEARFUL EACH AND EVERY DAY. - AND THAT'S A RISK THAT WE HAVE - TO TAKE. - NOW I TELL FOLKS THAT IF YOU ARE - GOING TO GO OUT, THEN YOU NEED - TO PROTECT YOURSELF. - YOU NEED TO WEAR MASKS. - YOU NEED TO CARRY HAND - SANITIZER, YOU NEED TO TRY TO - PHYSICALLY DISTANCE AS MUCH AS - YOU CAN BUT UNDERSTAND YOU ARE - HAVING A RISK WHEN YOU GO IN - PUBLIC LIKE THAT. - SHOULD THEY BE DOING THINGS - LIKE SHOUTING, FOR EXAMPLE. - AND HOW DO THEY KEEP FROM KIND - OF GETTING TOO OTHER PEOPLE'S - SMALL BASE.WHEN THEY ARE IN A - ALSO, HOW ABOUT THE AUTHORITIES? - WHAT SHOULD THEY BE DOINGO TRY - AND MINIMIZE THE COVID EXPOSURE - FOR THEMSELVES AND FOR E - OPLE THERE. - WE HAVE SEEN A LOT OF REPORTS - ABOUT HOW THE USE OF TEAR GAS - MAY BE A HEALTH PROBLEM BECAUSE - OF THIS. - CAN YOU TALK TO BOTH OFTHOSE - GROUPS? - >> ABSOLUTELY. - SO THOSE OUT THERE, JUST TRYING

- TO STAY AS PHYSICALLY SEPARATE - AS YOU CAN,ECOGNIZING THAT - YEAH, YOU'RE GOING TO TALK, - YOU'RE GOIN G OUT. - THE MORE YOU DO THAT, THE MORE - LIKELY YOU PUT YOURSELF AT RISK - BUT KEEPING YOUR MASK ON AS MUCH - AS YOU CAN. - AND FOR THE POLICE, TEAR GASSING - IS A PROBLEM. - YOU KNOW, YOSHOULD USE THAT - UNDER VERY SHALL VERY STRICT - GUANCE. - IT CAUSES INFLAMMATION OF THE - LUNGS, IT CAUSES PEOPLE TO - COUG - PUTTING PEOPLE IN A LITTLE BOX - WHICH BRINGS THEM ALL TOGETHER, - IS A PROBLEM. - AND OF CRSE THE PLASTIC - BULLETS, THOSE RUBBER BULL EPTS - THAT THEY TALK ABOUT BEING - NONLETHAL ARE ALSO VERY, VERY, - VERY DANGEROUS. - BUT YOU KNOW, THIS IS A GLOENL - PHEN. - AND WE SEE THAT PEOPLE ARE VERY - CONCERNED. - AND AS A NATION, THIS IS - PHENOMENON. - AND PEOPLE MAKING A RISK--BASED - DECISION THAT THEY WOULD MUC - RATHER BE OUT THERE LETTING - PEOPLE KNOW THAT BLACK LIVES - MATTER VERSUS, ANDNG THAT - RISK EACH AND EVERY DAY, VERSUS - THE SK THAT TAKE SIMPLY - WALKING DOWN THE STREET BEING

- >> I WANT TO COME BACK TO THAT - BIG PICTURE IN A SECOND. - BUT ONE MORE SPECIFIC QUESTION - WE'RE LEARNING A LITTLE BIT POR - ABOUT HOW THE VIRUS SPREADS. - DO YOU HAVE A SENSE OF THE BES - AND WORSE CASE OF WHAT MAY - HAPPEN IN THESE CROWD SITUATIONS - FROM THE VIRUS SPREAD RIGHT NOW? - >> ANYBODY CAN TELL THAT YOU - THEY CAN REALLMODEL IT, THEY - CAN'T REALLY TELL YOU BUT WE DO - KNOW THAT IT WILL INCREASE. - IT WILL GETE PEOPL THAT WILL BE - SICKER. - THE GOOD NEWS IS THE VAST - MAJORITY OF FOLKS THAGET THIS - DISEASE HAVE A MILD CASE BUT THE - CONCERN IS FOR THAT 15 TO 20% - THAT HAVE A VEY IS HE R - CASE. - AND JUST TO POINT OUT THAT - ANYONE WITH A CRON YOU CAN - DISEASE, DIABETES, HYPERTENSION, - HEART DISEASE, LUNG DISEASE, YOI - ARE AT GREATERSK. - AND WE ALSO KNOW THAT - COMMUNITIES OF COLOR, - PAANICULARLY AFRICAN-AMER - ARE EVEN MORE AT RISK BECAUSE - THEY DISPRORTIONATELY HAVE - THOSE DISEASES. - >> YOU ARE THE EXECUTIVE - DIRECTOR OF THE AMERICAN PUBLIC - HEALTH ASVEOCIATION. - I TO ASK YOU, LOOKING IN A - MUCH BIGGER WAY WHICH IS OUR - PRIVILEGE TO BE HERE ON

- NEWSHOUR, EERE WOULD YOU PL - THE ROLE ON RACE, THIS IS A BIG - QUESTION, ON THE AMERICAN - HEALTH. - WHAT KIND OF A EFFECT DOES IT - HAVE IN OUR SYSTEM. - >> RACE TRAGICALLY IS THE - ORIGINAL SIN WHICH CAUSES HEALTH - INEQUITIES. - WE NEED TO CHANGE THINGS SO THAT - WE VALUE ALL PEOE EQUALLY. - AND IF WE DON'T DO THAT, WE'RE - NOT GOINTO REALLY PROCESS AS A - SOCIETY, RACE MAT - >> SOME PEOPLE ARE LOOKING AT - THESE PROTESTS AND SAYING WAIT E - MIMOST STATES STILL ARE - NOT ALLOWING LARGE GATHERINGS. - EVEN AS WE PHASE IN SOME - REOPENING, PEOPLE AREN'TED - SUPPO BE MEETING IN GROUPS - OF 25 OR 50 BUT THEY ARE - ALLOWING THESE PROTESTS. - YOU SUPPORT THESE PROTESTS, CAN - YOU TELL US WHY? - >> YOU KNOW, I BELIEVE THAT - EVERYONE HAS TO MAKE A - SK-BASED DECISION IN LIF - I WOULD PREFER THAT GEOR - GEORGE DIDN'T NEED TO BE KILLED. - I WOULD PREFER THAT WE DIDN'T - POLICE BRUTALITY. - I'M A STRONG SUPPORTER OF SOUND

- POLICING BUT WHEN THINGS GET OUT - OF CONTROL RASSN HEY HAVE IR - SOCIETY, THEN WE HAVE TO SPEAK - OUT, WE HAVE TO DO SOMETHING. - AND TH AMERICAN PUBLIC HEALTH - ASSOCIATION HAS BEEN A STRONG - OPONENT OHUMAN RIGHTS, AND - WE WOULD NOT BE WHO WE WERE IF - WE DID NOT BELIEVE IN THIS - ENT THAT WEICE MOV - ARE SEEING. - IT IS A RISK BUT AT THE END OF - THE DAY, IF HE WITH DON'T TAKE - THIS RISK RIGHT NOW, WHEN ARE WE - GOING TO DO IT? - >> DR. GEORGE BENJAMIN OF THE - AMERICAN PUBLIC HEALTH - ASSOCIATION, THANK YOU FOR - JOINING US. - >> THANK YOU. - >> Woodruff: IT'S BEEN A - MOMENTOUS TWO WEEKS IN AMERICAN - LIFE, WITH THE POTENTIAL TO - TRANSFORM POLITICAL DISCOURSE, - POLICY AND THE 2020 PRESIDENTIAL - CAMPAIGN, WHICH IS NOW - OFFICIALLY DOWN TO PRESIDENT - TRUMP AND FORMER VICE PRESIDENT - JOE BIDEN.

- BIDEN QUIETLY CROSSED THE - DELEGATE THRESHOLD TO CLINCH THE - DEMOCRATIC NOMINATION ON FRIDAY - NIGHT. - OUR POLITICS MONDAY TEAM IS BACK - TO TAKE ON WHERE THINGS GO FROM - HERE. - THAT'S AMY WALTER OF THE "COOK - POLITICAL REPORT" AND HOST OF - PUBLIC RADIO'S "POLITICS WITH - AMY WALTER." - AND TAMARA KEITH OF NPR. - SHE ALSO CO-HOSTS THE "NPR - POLITICS PODCAST." - SO GOOD TO SEE - BOTH OF YOU, ESPECIALLY AFTER - THIS TUMULTUOUS DAYS THAWE'VE - BEEN THROUGH. - LET'S TALK FIRST ABOUT THE - PRESSURE W THAT DEMOCRATIC - MEMBERS OF CONGRESS, TAM, MUST - BE FEELG RIGHT NOW. - WE HEARD A LITTLE BIT EARLIER IN - THE SHOW FROM SENATOR CORY - T OKER. - BUT WH ALL THESE PROTESTS - WHAT DOES THAT ADD UP TO IF YOU - ARE A DEMOC THE HOUSE OR - THE SENATE. - >> IT AD UP TO THEY ARE - WORKING ON LEGISLATION AND - PUSHING IDEAS FORI WARD.

- AN CERTAINLY THEY DO FEEL - SOME PRESSURE FROM THE PROTESTS - TO GET OUT THERE AND STAND FOR - SOMETHING. - BUT ALSO THEY'RE OUT THERE - TRYING TO CREATE A CONTRACT WITH - PRESIDENT TRUMP AND HIS - ADMINISTRATION WHICH HAS NOT - REALLY TALKED MUCH ABOUT POLICE - UTALITY IN A SYSTEMIC WAY. - THE PRESIDENT HAS BEEN VERY - E CUSED ON THE CASOF GEORGE - FLOYD BUT HE HASN'T, HE HASN'T - OUEN WILLING TO BROADEN I - O. - HE HAS TALKED ABOUT BAD APPLES - BEING INVOLVED IN FLOYD'S CAS - BUT NOT WILLING TO TALK ABOUT - POLICE REFORM MOE SERIOUSLY. - HE NODDED TO IT A TEENY BITAT - AN EVE TODAY. - BUT DEMOCRATS ARE OUT THERE - SAYING THAT THE TY WASTAND - FOR SOMETHING. - >> AMY, YOU HAVE PROTESTORS AS - WE HEARD EARLIER IN THE PROGRAM, - PEOPLE SAYING WE NEED TO GET RID - OF POLICE DEPARTMENTS. - WE DON'T JUST NEETO ADD ON - MORE REFORMS, WHICH THEY SAY - HAVEN'T MADE ANY DIFFERENCE.

- WE NEED TO DO SOMETHING DRASTIC, - IF YOU ARE FAN ELECTEDCIAL, - WHAT DO YOU DO WITH THAT? - >> WELL, WE KNOW WHAT ONE PERSON - DID, THE PERSON WHO ISTHE - DEMOCRATIC NOMINEE FOR - PRESIDT, SCWHROA BIDEN CAM - OUT WITH A STATEMENT SAYING HE - WANTS TO SEE POLICE REFORMS BUT - THE IDEA OF DE FUNDING THE - POLICE IS NOT SOMETHING THAT WE - WE'RE TALKING ABOUT THE CONTRACT - RIGHT NOW BETWEEN WHERE JOE - BIDEN IS AD WHERE DONALD TRUMP - S THE ONUS REALLY IS ON - PRESIDENT TRUMP GHT NOW. - OVERWHELMING MAJORITIES THINK - THAT THE PRESIDENT HAS NOT - HANDLED THESE PROTESTS VERY - WELL. - MAJORITIES BELIEVE THAT THE - PROTESTS THEMSELVES ARE VALID. - MORE PEOPLE THAN EVER, WE TALKED - ABOUT THIS LAST WEEK, JUDY, - ESPECIALLY WHITE VOTERS BELIEVE - THAT THERE IS SYSTEMIC PROBLEMS - WITHIN POLICING, THAT BLACK - FOLKS ARE IDENTIFIED MORE LIKELY - THAN WHITES TO POLICE VIOLENCE. - SO THE SHIFT OF BALANCE RIGHT - NOW, THE PRESSURE REALLY ON

- DONALD TRUMP RIGHT NOW TO CHANGE - WHERE THE RAISCE, THE RACE - AND ALSO WHERE THE CONVERSATION - IS. - AND RIGHT NOW WE'VE SEENUN A - ER OF POLLS COME OUT IN THIS - LAST WEEK WHERE THE PRESIDENT IS - DOWN AGAINST JOE BIDEN ANYWHERE - FROM 7 TO4 POINTS. - >> Woouff: SO TAM, IS THE - THINKING WHETHER IT'S FROM THESE - POLLS OR OTHER EVIDENCE THAT - WHAT WE ARE SEEING IN THE - STREETS OF AMERICA IS HAVING AN - S WELL ON TRUMP VOTERS - AS DEMOCRATS WHO ARE PRESUMABLY - MANY OF THEM ENERGIZED BY LL - THIS, TO VOTE AGAINST PRESIDENT - TRUMP. - BUT WHAT ABOUT THE PEOPLE WHO - VOTED FOR HIM THE LAST TIME. - ARE THEY HEARING TH - >> THE PEOPLE WHO VOTED FOR - PRESIDENT TRUMP LAST TIME ARE - HEARING THE MESSAGE THAT - PRESIDENT TRUMP IS DELIVERING - NOW. - AND THAT MESSAGE IS A LAW AND

- ORDER MESSAGE. - HE SAID HE'S THE PRESIDENT OF - LAW AND ORDER AND HE HAS BEEN - PUSHING THIS IDEA THAT THETS - PROTARE VIOLENT OR HE'S - REALLY HIGHLIGHTED, KEED ON - THE ASPECT OF THE PROTESTS THAT - HAVE TURNED VIOLENT OR THE - LOOTING. - ST REALLY FAMILIAR TERRITORY FOR - HIM. - HE DID THE SAME THING BACK IN - 2016. - AND THE DIFFERENCE THIS TIME - THOU IS AS AMY SAID, PUBLIC - OPINION HAS MOVED A LOT. - I WAS TALKING TO DEMOCRATIC - POLLSTER WITHOUT LO AT THAT - POLLING BUT ALSO LOOKING AT WHO - IS OUT THERE PROTESTING. - AND HE SAYSHEN YOU HAVE - SUBURBAN WHITE KIDS OUT THERE - PROTESTINGK THEN THIS LAWAND - ORDER THEME THAT REPUBLICAN - CANDIDATES INCLUDING PRESIDENT - TRUMP GOING BACK TO RICHARD - NIXON HAS USED, IT DOESN'T HAVE - THE SAME RESONANCE ON THE - SUBURBS IF SUBURBAN KIDS ARE - MARCHING IN THOSE PROTESTS. - >> Woodruff: AND THAT'S MY - QUESTION, AMY. - ISHIS ACTUALLY CUTTING INTO - VOTERS WHO CHOSE DONALD TRUMP - THE LAST TIME?

- >> I DON'T KNOW THAT IT IS - NECESSARILY CUTTING INTO TRUMP - VOTERS. - HE STILL HAS INCREDIBLE SUPPORT - AMONG REPUBLICANS, STILL GETTING - 90 PLUS SOMETHING OF THEIR VOTE - BUT EVEN WHEN YOU ASK THE - QUESTION ON THAT NPR, NEWS POLL - WHETHER THEY THOUGHT DONALD - TRUMP WAS HANDLING IT WELL, A - THIRD MUCH REPUBLICANS THOUGHT - THE PRE OTESTS WL AID. - A THIRD OF REPUBLICANS THAT - PRESIDT TRUMP WASN'T HADLING - IT VERY BILLION WELL BUT ARE - STILL SUPPORTING THE PRESIDENT - IN THEE-ELECTION. - THE CHALLENGE FOR THIS PRESIDENT - HAS LONG BEEN THAT HE KEEPS - GOING BACK TO THESE SAME ISSUES, - THE SAME STRATEGIES OVER AND - OVER AGAIN WHICH TEND TO BRING - HIS VOTERS IN BUT DO NOT BRINGNI - LES ALONG FOR THE RIDE. - AND THAT IS WHAT YOU ARE SEEING - RIGHT NOW, IS HE'S LOSING - INDEPENDENCE BY BIGGER MARGINS. - 'S ALWAYS LOST DEMOCRATS AND - THE BIGGER CONCERN I THINK GOING - INTO THE FALL FOR THE PRESIDENT

- IS THAT THIS SUDDENLY DOESN'T - WORK TO EVEN ENERGIZE HIS BASE - ENOUGH. - IT'S ALWAYS ABOUT PRIMING AND - PUMPING HIS VOTERS OUT.ES - AT SOME POINT HIS START TO - LOSE THAT ENERGY THAT HE'S - COUNTING ON WHICH IS WY HWE'RE - HEARING TODAY THAT HE IS - INTENDING TO START HIS RALLIES - AGAINST, PROBABLY IN THE NEXT - >> Woodruff: WHICH WILL BE - INTERESTING TO WATCH GIVEN - SOCIAL DISTANCING. - EXTENT JOE BIDEN NEEDS AN THE - ENERGIZED, EXCITED, MOTIVATED - OUP OF VOTERS TURN OUT, IF - HIS POSITION IS NOT WHERE SOME - OF THE BLA LIVES MATER - ACTIVISTS ARE IN TERMS OF - DEFUNDING E,E POLYOU'RE - SAYING YOU DON'T THINK THAT'S A - PROBLEM FOR HIM? - >> YOU KNOW,INK THERE IS A - REAL RANGE IN VIEW POINTS AMONG - THE PEOPLE PROTESTING AND - MARCHING AND WHAT THEY ARE - CALLING FOR. - IN THIS POSITION THAT HE DOESN'T - SUPPORT DE FUND THE POLICE T - COMES AT THE DEFUND THE POLICE

- IS A LOT MORE NUANCED THAN THE - WORDS WOD LET ON. - AND CERTAINLY NUANCE DOESN'T - ALWAYS WORK IN POLITICS. - BUT BIDEN IS CERTAINLY TRYING TO - FIGURE OUT WHERE HES STANDON - THIS. - HE DOES HAVE A JUSTICE PLAN ON - HIS WEBSITE. - BUT THE TRUMP CAMPAIGN IS - CERTAINLY TRYING TO AFFILIATE - HIM AND TIE HIM TO THE DE DEUND - IDEA AND BEING ABLE TO RUN - AGAINST THAT FOR TRUMP IS EASIER - THAN HAVING TO TALK ABOUT WHAT - HE IS GOING TO DO TO ADDRESS THE - CONCERNS OF THE PROTESTORS. - >> Woodruff: WELL, WE'T - HEARING L NOW IT IS JUST - THE FIRST OF JUNE BUT WE'RE - FORECASTING ALL THE WA - NOVEMBER SHALL, WHICH IS WHAT I - ASKED BOTH OF YOU TO DO EVERYEE - SINGLEAND WE'LL CONTINUE - TO DO. - TAMARA KEITH AND AMY WALTER, - THANK YOU BOTH. - >> YOU'RE WELCOME. - >> WELCOME. - >> Woodruff: ITS BEEN ALMOST SIX - YEARS SINCE THE FATAL SHOOTING

- OF MICHAEL BROWN BY A POLICE - OFFICER IN FERGUSON, MISSOURI - SPARKED NATIONAL PROTESTS. - TONIGHT, WE REVISIT OUR BRIEF - BUT SPECTACULAR INTERVIEW - FEATURING FILMMAKER DAMON DAVIS. - HIS DOCUMENTARY "WHOSE STREETS" - FOLLOWED THE UNREST IN FERGUSON - AND EXPLORED THE EXPERIENCE OF - BLACK AMERICANS. - >> THERE ARE THERE ARE THINGS - THAT YOU MUST THINK ABOUT TO - SURVIVE DAILY BEING BLACK IN - AMERICA. - THE CLOTHES YOU GOT ON. - THE WAY YOU TALK TO PEOPLE. - BEING BLACK IS A WEAPO - UNDERSTAND? - THE WEIGHT THAT YOU CARRY ANDE - RKER YOUR SKIN IS SO, - TERRIFYIAT, LIKE, YOU'RE - WHOLE LIFE.G ON EGGSHELLS YOUR - AND THE LEVEL OF ANXIETY THAT - COMES ALONG WITH THAT... - I DON'T KNOW ANY BLACK PERSON - THAT DOESN'T KNOW WHAT I'M - TALKING 'BOUT. - OUHAD BEEN HARASSED BY POLICE. - I HAD BEEN PULLEOF CARS,

- SAT ON THE CURBS, HUMILIATED. - THERE'S A HUGE CHUNK OF THE T - POPULATIT THIS IS EVERYDAY - LIFE FOR. - AND THINK ABOUT HOW, HOW - PRIVILEGED YOU MUST BE TNOT BE - AFRAID, EVERY DAY YOU WALK OUT - OF YOUR HOUSE. - TO NOT BE WORRIED ABOU I'M - DRIVING AND ONE OF MY TAIL - LIGHTS IS OUT. - OR I'M DRIVING IN THE WRONG - NEIGHBORHOOD. - THIS TALLY LIST YOU HAVE TO GO - THROUGH BEING BLACK IN AMERICA. - I HOPE PEOPLE THAT ARE FINDING - OUT ABOUT THIS THAT ACTUALLY - CARE, TRY TO USE THAT PRIVILEGE - THAT THEY GOT TO DO SOMETHING - ANMAKE IT A LITTLE MORE EVEN - FOR EVERYBODY ELSE. - OVER THE LAST FEW YEARS, I - PERSONALLY THINK THE TRACTY - MY LIFE HAS CHANGED - MONUMENTALLY. - AND THE EVENTS OF FERGUSON AND - MIKE BROWN CHAED MY ENTIRE - LIFE I CAN HONESTLY SAY. - "WHOSE STREETS" IS A CALL AND - RESPONSE CHANT THAT WAS USED OUT - IN THE STREETS IN SAINT LOUIS - AND IN FERGUSON.

- IT'S ALSO ASKING WHOSE STREETS - IS IT? - THE POLICE ARE WORKING FOR THE - PEOPLE, AND YOUR RIGHTS ARE TO - HESEMBLE, SAYS THE CONSTITUTION, - ARE THEY OUR AREOUR - STREETS? - WHO WHOSE STREETS ACTUALLY ARE - THEY? - HISTORY I DON'T THINGSMERICAN - HAVE CHANGED MUCH FROM THREE - YEARS AGO, OR 30 YEARS AGO, 300 - YEARS AGO. - WE BEEN TALKING FOR ABOUT TWO, - 300 YEARS. - AND I THINK THAT IT'S TIME TO - TAKE SOME RESPONSIBILITY, ME - CULPABILITY, AND REALLY GET - UNCOMFORTABLE, TNK ABOUT THE - EVERYDAY ROLE PEOPLE PLAY IN - RACISM. - WHETHER IT BE, LOCKER ROOM JOKES - THAT, UH, THANKSGIVING DINNER - JOKES, DOWN TO SYSTEMATIC AND - SYSTEMIC RACISM IN THE JOBS AND - ROS THAT PEOPLE PLAY IN IT - YOU KNOW WHEN THEY TALK ABOUT - BEING AN ALCOHOLIC THE FIRST - STEP TO COVERY IS - ACKNOWLEDGING YOU HAVE A - PROBLEM. - WELL, AMERICA HAS A PRETTY BIG - PROBLEM WITH DOING THAT, YOU - KNOW? - IT'S LIKE, WHY DON'T Y'ALL JUST - GET OVER IT, YOU KNOW. - IT'S LIKE, BUT YOU HAD A 280

- YEAR HEAD START. - IT'S KIND OF HARD TO GET OVER IT - WHEN PEOPLE RUN AROUND THE TRAC - EN THEY SHOOT THE GUN FOR - YOU TO START. - I THINK UNTIL WE START TALKING - ABOUT THAT THE CONVEN IS A - WASTE OF TIME. - YOU KNOW WHAT I MEAN? - I THINK IT'S I THINK ID S, UM... - 'S AND IT'S PATRONIZING AT - THIS POINT. - IT REALLY IS. - MY NAME IS DAMON DAVIS, AND THIS - HAS BEEN MY BRIEF, BUTTA - SPLAR TAKE ON COURAGE. - >> Woodruff: YOU CAN WATCHON - ADDITI BRIEF BUT SPECTACULAR T - AND TONIGHT PBS NEWSHOUR - ONLINE, THE LATEST EPISODE OF - OUR PODCAST, "AMERICA - INTERRFRTED." - WE HEA PROTESTERS IN - OUNNEAPOLIS AND WASHINGTON, D.C. - ABOUT WHY THEY'RNOW AND - WHAT MAKES THIS MOMENT FEEL - DIFFERENT. - LISTEN ON OUR WEBSITE, THAT'S - org/newshour/podcasts, O - SUBSCRIBE WHEREVER YOU GET YOUR - PODCASTS. - AND THAT'S THE NEWSHOUR FOR - TONIGHT. - I'M JUDY WOODRUFF. - JOIN US ONLINE AND AGAIN HERE - TOMORROW EVENING. - OF US AT THE PBS - NEWSHOUR, THANK YOU, PLEASE STAY - SAFE AND SEE YOU SOON. - >> MAJOR FUNDING FOR T PBS

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