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and the following program is made possible by support from viewers like you think three thousand very prestigious and he has writer's block know i hear you make a synopsis creative it is a master of a martial art is in houston was a fifth and he's not an angry now you're the deadliest used his state line or you're like we live in hollywood all you know she really liked the rains and the same thing after ff joe johnson i talk to you can years ago we did a piece together and come back and visit you again and you ever been lured away from here why do you stay here i do think there's such a thing as was the title of your show ten years ago such thing as spirit of
place that makes a difference for writer i know writers like dry warm climates you know the south west much more than i do i'll see every single engine of sun each year that's two movie i think so i'm ready well whether for writing the government from western psychology and sometimes people hear scandinavian stock you've got a serious interest in black population
in the country and you have a patient that mixed a stimulating as well as the diverse was just perfect yes he didn't say which means unpretentious the american heartland except it's all the way out here in the state doesn't tell people in the government to ordinary people who were their jobs and we were interested in other people good neighbors for example on those people i find when i go outside my door and you see during his junior year
huge huge ships just under windows and many other things as well armed presence which i will always treasure after a trying middle passage so this is to me at the same time you're saying the reason that your family did no imitations tonight because it's so wide agreement says that he will run into
the front pages of the story for me an english and you know stories warriors on recordings so i think it's a sweater basically of following through on action to iran right i like to think that the books and writes on fact for my kids and yours that occur in the books and i can't separate out anything that happened to me last twenty five years in jail i guess i decided that i was getting married for one essential that it was parked and making promises and keeping them and i think that's when i make a promise my fiction is we do have people concerned about the live for the spirit i am i i do think you can move around the northwest which is facing
asia for example and find buddhism i've had a long standing interest in things like buddhism hinduism dollars in us partly because my back on flossie partly because of entering into the more fortunate about nineteen years old and he's still dealing with the school doing i think pretty well he did martial arts is often called imitation so that everything we do is a piece everything that we do have is home everything that we hose from ones century and that includes the sunni the writing as well and who knows why did that one my favorite quotes know the
literature of the east is this among the chants of the spiritual life is this truly moral control of oneself for this moment because it's very much like a little small brotherhood and sisterhood the focus is really a discipline of the party are in was the discipline spirit we practiced meditation caused an invitation when it did it here in this room in this room we knew that that was also my pillow right underneath there's this is deer head
inside your head community basically i take passages from the spiritual traditions all the spiritual traditions of the world over the arm one of them is the key person in frances' having trouble writing things that is uncertain it is a comeback to whatever was was giving me a problem with a different agent he'd use to demand than the juice is it really as they didn't see anybody and it has to be that's the
best feeling it has existed in history re evaluate every emotion ever felt because again this may be the last my last contestant and the real issue is important and again with a case with every all that will outlive us one hopes it'll go into in the future we want a benchmark or a restart so it's really important to get gardner up owing more than anybody else you have to get it right if you're going to be running is about truth three john garner was a major influence on my understanding of the literature which usually a process of discovery for gardner has no effect at the end of the book you might find at your own ideas emotions have changed does this happen to you a passage
from little passage i would imagine the release three thousand pages of a throwaway kid an agenda to earn fifty pages of manuscript it's a narrative the same time it's a sea story too ordaz used to publish a crane and that this team and she was staking out what would seize convenience god awful disease is rampant most were barefoot and therefore what about the feeding cows from scratch is the pulse rate of almost overnight besides this there were cases of his temper a sort of maddening fever degenerating into a frenzy so violent that the victim ripped away his clothes trenches skin of that of the man next to him to hanging ribbons the leaked into the sea and these i must have with a milder cases aboard ship far more
dreadful were the sufferers from black vomit this affliction attacks the nervous system and bring those so infected took on a yellow wish to engage felt comatose their pulses sake almost to the field and then came fits of delirium screens have kept the rest of the crew on edge or near nervous exhaustion because the victims of black vomit compared health to rot in a period of two days did you they said an actual accounts of what people write this there was this administration is all real shipboard twenty percent died yesterday at a chapter to chapter that we have very little about literally in either motion pictures nothing wrong or fiction nothing our literary
art we touches upon this i want to read something for our guide united in opposition sources of a lot of sources on the slave trade going back to nineteen seventy one when i first and the early draft of this book so i had all this research since nineteen seventy one to use nothing about the seas less than six years researching see literature the national book award was very nice to see the recognition also to build reader tribute to ralph ellison's that to me the tribune even more so after the award was that was a high point for me allison in one of his books has a line is so beautiful he says that the imagination is integrated with other for just a second the imagination does not segregate when you have a dream at night hugo balkanize the figures in your dream into black reasons why dreams i'm sorry dreams don't work that way the subconscious doesn't work that way and finally the imagination itself is synthetic
and it draws from everything in your experience evanston was a township school systems and time wasn't in the kids were white asian films including about race and racism have distractions from the real fundamental questions i think that what we share in common constitutes ninety nine percent of what we are i think our differences make up nine percent of who we are really emphasizing for the last decade are better fifteen years those differences that one percent of my mother was very artistic she got through high school and one that was something so the chutes with the educational pedagogical ambitions of meat chicken lots of books my father this was fifth grade that was extremely hardworking and resourceful man who worked a day job doing
construction and a job as a night watchman for the city of evanston and then on the weekends you sometimes help pay an elderly white couple writing was found from a publisher for stories my school paper the first three stories when i was seventeen in nineteen sixty five the writing was more or less a sideline my obsession when i cared about most since elementary school was driving does it fit in well with what i was doing in high college which was journalism or anything to really come at it and it wanted to publish books walking around this nation time and for the manuscripts which i still have my drawer is why it's b
i want to get you into her into low interest in the cushions the story that it just struck me as your shirts carry that since our stairs apprentice ii and it's called chain dr weiss is ironic story we have these little minor war going on between all white men all black woman and the household after all these years they lived together and the martial arts are part of that insofar as he finds a way to move from spiritual and physical menace to health he's fifty four a poster for thirty three years now high blood pressure or emphysema flat fee and as evelyn salt or french elder dingell was the lingering fear that he had cancer was he was also getting hard to live with it either never to solve his donors to keep the lincoln continental at a crawl and never ran her fingers along his inner thigh when they sat reverently merrill's church because anything even sex
or laughing too loud read officers might bring on heart failure i mean that's the that's the beginning listeners who uses a crucial to that doesn't need to improve communications commission you see these young boys and it was good today
you see images of both are the older black people were coming out of slavery ministers who've never learned how to read the bible from the first time and they're sections of of that struggle that conflict were they overcome and achieve their goal i think very moving rosen says there is i think you know it all school just finished but first here in an air to celebrated i have a passage from scripture the people that walked in darkness had seen a great ally they did well in the land of the shadow of death a shot and people have tried
you know all kinds of adversity turn obstacles in the opportunities which is where i think it's essentially on for people everywhere manned by people in particular have you ever thought of writing a book is that it has a central character a white person rather like an apache it is scary characters who happen to be american or a certain stories or is not a racial designation of all the recent story of march was called queen was in playboy was awesome a fortieth anniversary issue of playboy which comes out in january i didn't designate the race of those characters either because that's not what the story's about it's about other issues and other conflicts where the black arts movement do what do you object here there are things i have to object too i think in any racially based the state that there are some people who argue that a white person really cannot understand the experience of black americans or the creative products of black americans that there is an intertribal arms or a barrier
between racial understanding i think that's a very dangerous argument to make i don't think that we can have an intelligible criticism if we have no incentives to over by people in a customer for white people doesn't mean americans and other coast and a center for patients that that really doesn't make sense that the iraqi people talk to you about race now because it's very much what is that it's so much worse that we just like the air we breathe and under his particular cultural moment and so we have to talk about and we're trying to work our way through it but the truth of the matter is i am no one can really approached me here is meaningful and the civil affairs individual thank you think it is likely that they don't know who we are now and i'm like man consistently in hama with the public which is the negro biggest violent own sex
obsessed stupak ok and totally irresponsible that image i think is one that we did it and prejudice when americans have hung onto ever since the days of slavery and they do so in the face of remarkable human beings like general colin powell like me are normalized in seattle by the late astronaut wrong nir who was an incredible human being sometimes human beings were going to see on this earth were black men and yet again you know the mythology and the stereotypes are circulated through than the other media television newspapers never know her a chain chain chain years his plays always enjoyed being is is all kinds of
people what scholars i am moral commitment to it would suspect that for all things to unfold to teach is that you had discovered has to feel that way i had been going to school since the age of five i had never been out of school since kindergarten either students or teachers or so so hard for me to imagine being something other than a rose was a professor there's an article recently in newsweek talking about the black middle class the new book talking about the rage of the black middle class to yourself every few black rage you know it's like waves of white rage is an asian rages attorneys rage i suppose there's anger discrimination is this anger at racism that everybody feels at some point in every day that i actually know a caricature or like a cartoon
you know of that feeling as it has been in the media but i suppose which was with most of those leaving the troubles me is on a covered one dimensionality achuthan in some articles and discussing african american history yes and cultures along its it's something will cost of trying to work our way out and sang on president on the media journalists decided at some point average by jesse jackson that the proper term in our time for people of color is would be african american and imposed taken very shortly after that and the majority of black life the state is no of those though those of this novel oxford in jail and is now an award for that long
that script in your thank you with cases you know you own personas in class we have what about the very authors and i just have to work both the teacher has problems with authors of color in particular way so mother called me to ask about other works and so it's a very unusual situation as does disruption of thrift i have no one's business on those graves of an issue i'm also the country because of it and i see such riches when i seen segregation policy organization i see something that martin luther king stands in the way of
products for the entire human rights new book is called treatment it's about that okay it's just touching things considered too soon you are he's an air brushed figure you know the other mines in the face all the ports are taken out to make public icon very important go beneath the surface with his wife in the process to understand the heart of the man sued beating palpable human being armed conflict of some different sides pursuing nine he'll probably one of the most important figures in the twin palms in the twentieth century and i would say in terms of all american history
data i have a lot of offers after jobs in other places and what mistake i think i've been here longer than the days of instances left home waiting for the college everything i think a lot is here i guess i would continue running sprints there's been a lot of that for columbia pictures of trust our kitchens and screenplay for own to spike lee write in writing your next year nineteen ninety four for a new film with his new films and i can see i can to continue doing everything i've ever done you're drawing perhaps more criticism short
fictions well finishes work on martin luther king every moment of existence is precious and we have to bring the very best that we have to but i'm sure one of his memoir writing a novel that to me is the only way to live as close as we can get we have to i say this with all honesty
Remarkable People: Making a Difference in the Northwest
Charles Johnson
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Charles Johnson – University of Washington professor and African-American scholar. The author of novels, short stories, screenplays and teleplays, and essays that often addressed the issues of black life in America. His novel Middle Passage won the National Book Award for Fiction. Johnson started his career as a cartoonist. He has been a practicing martial artist which has been very important to his creative life. Program was part of a series of half-hour profiles. Portrait of National Book Award winner Charles Johnson distributed by PBS Adult Learning Service and PBS Video, 1996.
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