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at the end the us only this would be really know what we can win and number two among all convinced this is the way to have a meaningful lasting change when we get into the system or get someone into the system to reduce the change is unnecessary are real people have to remain outside of the system and i'm really distraught right

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of people were paying that you're that nonviolent low yet the data world thank you it has been like to be and i wanted it they don't all go and i said good and you are again trying to alaska to the king will not come our two major paul watson say like a place like anacostia know he came out of his own way but it's a little bit in the other electors saying only game they say two hours parties where

people i know in a phenomenon became loss of fumble and the love love the man that had taken off all from like me and they're like man and tingling i will call it when you people who had the taliban and don't like people i'm about in the politic an oddball to confront jared for them from jail if i get all of the malware an oblong and i think leadership his personality and his image was that of a jab somewhere between a gap and so that moment right nationalist camp among other botched things like black panthers actually are some people who would resort to violent measures picking holding people injured it was to see whether that he would come of age whether or not he would join forces with a commitment to be

felt that he was sincere and then assume it was it was shown in the article that he would change a war for black folks it has been earmarked by increasing pressures and a growing sense of community that was the year of resurrection city and richard nixon on robert kennedy of the kerner report and white racism it was cool and television and the black psychological revolution in nineteen sixty eight we saw the clips of many older figures in england about the rise of the forefront of such younger leaders as julian bond and huey p newton as black journal crisscrossed the country getting the views of afro americans on these and other subjects one fact it became increasingly clear to most single event that was all others in significance was a

cold blooded murder of the reverend dr martin luther king the effect that i'm most aware of in the assassination of dr king was in the final call rejection on the part of the establishment of black people approaching the establishment on his own terms and it was proven in a very clear the pile black people that this is something that would not work that the rewards of dr king's very gracious and marble hand western white christian approach involving black people's problems was rejected finally lonely individualist thatcher enough to ever was a recognized leader of the reintegration civil rights movement was dr kay and dr king the growing experience the reality of the law and we'd like people living with have been shown clearly expresses of the sclc that that that the effort at demonstrating in

petitioning the white power structure had have not succeeded in bringing about basic change in this country so when dr king was assassinated seemed meanwhile the most obscene things that was possible to happen didn't happen that is the same people who've been calling dr king martin luther king all these years on the day on the night of his death to embracing him with embracing his philosophy was saying that he represented them an institute that is gone and we must carry on and the tradition that exemplified all they were concerned about was preserving a system and the real nature of the concern was proven when the poor people's campaign marshaled its forces and came to washington because the same people who among previous had said that there are democratic process seized by what's changed in the affected in the country which needs to be non violent and to maintain a nonviolent edition and come with a hat in the hand and they are white power structure to do the right thing the response of the white power structure to that

effort was guns and police and the destruction of the poor people's campaign they are poor people's campaign that was supposed to have been a landmark been a very important opportunity i never thought so i thought that i that like i don't want to it was never a supporter of dr king's and such marches seemed to me where you are going to appeal to a congress didn't even pass a rat though i don't know why i couldn't i didn't believe in that when i was first forget it coast to believe that the united states the white community in the united states is not ready to give away anything whatever we get it and it is testing that the poor people's campaign had no impact whatsoever on the crew basically did

was to confirm that they have taken care of thousands really was you know due to go to all the white establishment that they have been persecuted be no doubt within the years so that really was a sort of a survey the effect of them the real big players the relationship there's a lot more

important that some details of the good ideas to come from or about thinking because here you had masses of people you know not just an individual or personality that simply are although no disrespect or to the vice president elect of the united states spiro agnew the city's singing yo you've seen them all he and representatives from the united states nationalities greek columns logistics center and to quell these people to washington and put up what i would grow like call a prototype get out now this could have saved taxpayers a lot of money you have to sometimes when you run and although the united states look like a wagner you just endowed resurrection city is using this one go so you would have seen most of the growth in the united states and i think barclays extent

i consider it's successful although most people said was afraid because of the things that happen in resurrection city that muddy streets in resurrection city was typical of muddy streets and ghettos throughout the united states cops come in and tear gassing people and the night who were asleep so that happens in the good of people being beaten and robbed some of this happens in the ghetto people who did not have the real good news that gave this happens in the ghetto people who i know this happens in the ghetto everything that went on in resurrection city went on in the ghettos of the united states of america and of congress i just simply did not buy that have not ignore resurrected city muslim could have come out of it of course revelations new tremor

which means those people how to develop a new we're thinking oh we're thinking of lawyers movement which they're the true pal think that and that's what the significance of resurrection city was to the black people in america today with that look of the team has gone missing dr king had his arms hear about him significantly of the people for years believe that our effort has fallen down sleep peacefully and i somehow move on gay rights you know the magical fashion and i think that once he was no longer here and the people could see what was happening in but in a detached fashion that is detached from king even though you couldn't say was completely the test because his part was to live with them and was no obvious his charisma was no longer there he was no longer able to hoodwink people with outstanding oratory

they had to look at the facts and everybody i think for the first time since beginning to fall about the king realizes that the whole year was over in nineteen sixty three and the people i think you as a very largely supported by whites because one must ask a question well we're all of the black people doing all about the kenyans operations one would've thought that after his death that there would have been many many millions of people marching to washington to beg congress for some are spiked from oppression but now they do took to the streets after many reasons immediately after skiing after his death i think the main reasons because even those of us who our disagreement about picking that symbolically we had been shot to

underestimate the significance of the poverty program that match much richer martin luther king was slated to convene immediately prior to his assassination this misrepresented in dimension which was being added to the harlem campaign led by martin luther king jr it i don't agree that the idea of i don't agree with all of his philosophy and still to me it is clear that dr king noland more for americans intro against their operation than any other figure in that opinion and yeah and an actor in that moment he was about to add millions of for your american people which represented the trial our challenge to

only power structure which they wish they could take and so he had to do and it was cruel because that movement was becoming a mass movement including your own legacies of legends which which was actually what put the x at the root let's listen to what you said is true what has happened to this movement and he was at the all of that you know in the mind of reverend king or was it a genuine people's movement that early along with it like with some direction when i'm trying to get at whether once again the kind of you know where we had the panel weighs upon one man history or as a very genuine people's mood and what's happened to the movement and question the level it was an aunt and precisely because the the assassination of a cane was getting to a dissident next

night the shepherd with a strategy and the demonstrations that as we see them a propaganda tool for mobilizing partner week we did the propaganda thing we fail to mobilize the vision part you know you're alive i mean we'd jump the united states government rushes in china don't have the forces to do that yet so the very fact that some poor black people would dare to come and can trump it's a military industrial complex and say you got five points of mine and to us and slide into vietnam in places like this was in itself significant now i think we face the task of continuing that national mobilization which i think all of the black consciousness it is and that these next few years as the us mobilizing the power within our communities and allies we can mobilize out slogans to bring about the changes

mentioned point poor people of the program is to appoint money and where the recovery programs like people were they just this year with something more relevant that poverty programs i like to talk about also this the effect of the assassination of poverty programs are a tool of the government to do it and they want done they don't have anything to do with the lives of black people have been recognized years ago african proverb before we can cure the disease we must first diagnosed the disease is racism poverty is just one aspect of racism dr king was not poor he was killed mohammad ali was not poor he was deposed mr adam clayton powell was not nader is not an economic conditions economic identity to racial identity theft racism is our problem is simply

one aspect of the day after dr king was assassinated in birmingham bobby hartmann was murdered in oakland at those people was wounded in eight the open billy and wow much has been made of dr king's assassination the information concerning bobby hadn't assassinations the first president on the blackout the body has been suppressed the truth is we're at that in terms of the young black people moving you see the response dr king assassination was not something that he himself would have advocated this is the move that the young black people would make it was spontaneous but it was not what you call non violent was not a path to respond and people all over the country turn to another form of leadership and i think that the basic represented by the black panther party is the only viable leaders at this gig we'll get something

done that the black people and the blacked out the party the shippers they are talking about it the thing that they were politically economically and magical and revolutionary leadership off are a lot of basic premises is that political power goes out of the barrel of a gun and this has been taken up by the young warriors a young man in the community calls the colony across this country and i think everyone has to recognize that whatever changes are going to be made in this country for black people in the coming years and to be made by young people and the young people in this country responding to the black panther party is going back they all across the country this is a force is going to have to be dealt with david geffen edition but the people were we head of fat back in after your love that and i think i have the best job in alabama go through about a trouble

political event thank you examples of the russian revolution and revolutionary war may receive yearly limited view the violence has a way of being held by that i made it legally and times of the peak violence whether society can take that next major important step likely for black people now hospital or community that's right thank

you that's right we're still going to have to choose a paid to some degree and aleppo process because you can't help it but that they're the microprocessor they haven't saved because of that to some degree ah so that we see ourselves are waging war has to balance we see ourselves waiting about the streets of sarcelles with waging about the new metal prices they vary english on the contradictions of that and i think we can bye bye oh all my definition of black power or any kind of power in terms of regulating the controlling one's own destiny or the destiny of a community of people are nation of

people of the world is the ability to kill the ability to kill i have some difficulty however and shifting a aaa to be i was ok that the answer is in the barrel down that gives me great difficulty i i would say this or that if we reach the point at which show patrick henry and george washington and on the national heroes we reach that there is no other answer except for some violence then there may be an answer here which has to be looked at by anybody who is not a religious pacifist and the many people who are restless i would not characterize the non violent approach as a cowardly approach your a subservient approach i think it requires great courage to do the kinds of things that dr king did and the people who work within it seems to me however that there is any change in strategy that is called for by the events of nineteen

sixty eight and i don't believe that necessarily calls for the year at least at this point maybe are complicated when i am not a one word believe it calls for guns and ammunition and that what it calls for is the mobilization of the power that is present in the black community and i'm thinking particularly about political powers against then i'm thinking about economic power and i'm thinking about psychological call and i'm thinking about black pride and i'm thinking about correlations and the development and strengthening our allies and alliances and i'm not quite ready to give up completely out the possibility of a solution of the land they're going out into the streets and becoming affordable i knew it was big one thing i'd like to say that this whole

question of violent death in the bandage around very clear should be made very clear that in the black panther party and among all black people not a question of violent aggressive violent this mostly think it's a question of defending our thoughts and our people against the violence being waged upon us and have been waged upon us for the past four and it is a lot of aggression is going to get that people not only on the level of gun but on the level of housing the level of education and the level of alcohol on every level of this if i do this aggression as hostility depression and violent the record against black people the program of the black panther party originally started as the backup a party without the fat is to move to deep and the take that people in the fire so that we can move from a matte black people into a sufficient power to detain on each arm one big factor that we talk about that mission back again i think it should be viewed in that can take a very clear to me that this is something that was planned to take the month of april april first

president johnson enough that he wasn't going to run again for office and this is a profound shock that went around the whole world everyone was sort of cop out on april fourth dr martin luther king was assassinated and the shock people were jailed around it didn't know exactly what was going on or fix is interruption was the height of argentina's the black movement in which the massive information eldridge cleaver was almost a fascinating i do think that they are they going to eat we'll go up his own political party that takes all his world is made by the white man you don't have any of the the white men makes all its own it at each other people are those a lot of the politics in which he adds

there is no question welcome to this end the white man's politics that you cannot weigh in with this law the question is are we not in the american economy more and more an obsolete people they do not need our labor anymore the fact of the matter is they don't need the labor of most white people that they the message hasn't reach them yet if arthur have reached us for those we are more and more unemployed and are we really talking about it in the basic question that faces us is that faces the nation like all the whites the basic question is what do you do with the people that you don't need anymore i know what they've done with them throughout history and that's one question and then the second question for the black people are those who were attempting to map out strategy of struggle is

do you continue to work within the system that as our neglected you impressed you and repress true for three hundred years or do attempt to change that system and i'd buy change i mean are you know when they overthrow what do you do i mean well it seemed to me that we have to do more things we have and we have to work for a complete change its basic jay leno's more goods and one of the first lines of the offensive and he says the news to perpetuate itself and son is not allow us to quote infiltrated and then thought you know presumably get in the position where we can we can i think i think that the jury was probably on the crest of the oven basically twenty five billion

you are looking at this question not from the viewpoint of the afro american but from the viewpoint of the european american system of oppression when you say what can we do with people who were unaware of women are employed them were obsolete that question what do we do with them it's a question of what we need to lead us out it involves this organization do to to get as much power as we can and to get the means changing genres of all i am asking is there about this i think there is a contradiction you can't talk about getting as much power as you can by working with legislatures is that state odd egg in a state any of the fifties they are how much energy do we have we have or how much you needed to have a look at the unity that has

demonstrated on this table here i am are we don't have enough power to do all of these things at once an art i it seems to me that there is such a basic contradiction that we ought to address ourselves to working within the system are it seems to me to me that you're going to waste for years and years and generations and generations because those were the most articulate will get better jobs and whatnot they move out of the contact with a community level young hot young men come along and the same process fall and what we're talking ulcers of prizes from the establishment seen you talk about economics and economic power we keep we could never work within the system and at the same time go with cobra system economically or politically because like when you refer to places like in africa mozambique angola south africa we distill colonialism going on you take a third

of a giant financial giant it is not making the what they want in south africa and there's plenty of activity now the blacks and the party like to say what we can do economically is thought a fun way by we can help all those people and after that we could do this providing we had the gigantic financial strain of the chase manhattan bank will buy which if they looked asian american bank you can you pull out of south africa or else we're going to have gigantic arm corporations not doing that and i think we can do that they can rapidly oh well look that gives them more money for the founder of the ford foundation to the black revolution he and we can keep on doing whatever we want again they still have their hands on the more are estimated to have been in economic base here in the fact that without the existence of the united states as it is as it is to get there would be you

know are white south african regime most of the reactionary governments regions around the world are supported by the day i did states so that we could send as much money as we wanted to to the freedom fighters in a place are like portugal the poorest country in europe which controls a total of thirty six times its size how could portugal continue to do this without the support of the united states government want the statement i'm trying to make is this that none of those countries will achieve freedom until this system which in this system here in the united states is overthrown and to live has changed i don't agree because your whole position sounds up to two two to an over estimation of the hour audio of the people who now dominate and control the united states i'd rather it's considered but when you

magnify it as you do so then you'll human possibility of doing anything and i do not for doing nothing i am far i am for beginning where we are and we certainly are with me this system so that began to begin to do anything about that means that we needed a minute to visit and i wish it and infiltrate the power structure and some are infiltrating the power structure who were dominated by the nation and i don't like it which is enjoyed was nothing at all that's not really what's happening but it actually happening and that the policy is joining the minority the death and then i think my friend the

ford foundation rockefeller them or do you live among the major damage from any revolution that wants to plant any clamping down of the how low they've been once they have to empower they become the leading clerics you know i think that there is or has been a black revolution so that they can continue to maintain an hour and they are forced to buy are so that they can but it is my judgment said it even now that they will not succeed altogether you know that there will be there will be a force that has not dominated by out and move and leave them people here revolutionaries from all dick cheney coming up a new credit world all

night live a lot about he lashed by the way oh we weren't talking a variation a variation of the revolution and i was wondering you know how would the earth's amble toward separatism and witness a revolutionary quest because it seems to me that one that seems to be fueling the other and to make a comment about the wetness counterfeit about nonviolent third fifth if not the thought we had never taken any position that non bounces either publicly or lose some service of surgery that's not even the issue what is the issue is does it work and by the very non functional approach it is if it gets based in highly organized was violent the country was

created in violent man was taken in violent provided with picture really felt through violent in ghettos in vietnam in africa where ever you look to organize was invited at work to maintain this if it so whether the solution is organize for the violence is a secondary question the question is one of the problem and the problem is organize for some violent and one of the things it's very clear about the philosophy of the black panther party and huey p newton is faking it that there's a world of difference between twenty million and on people and twenty million people organizing on to the deal how did you put them in a colony i like to do something evil because with the right people is a question of both at it the balance you know use or whatever

is necessary and until you see the opposition that there's no you know that's the army the navy marine corps the cia was a new look at total population and it you know it eases his one like people have to get themselves together and you have to work out a kind of home is in which direction and if you if you if the time comes when politics is a thing that can help you advance your call implied people should get to the ballot initiative used the ballot box you know and put like people in positions and division use a policy win back of a pariah within that black people use that ballot box in on phone numbers in nineteen fifty eight and nixon fitting in the white house forthcoming

functional spirit of forty fifty a violent struggle in china in your head i mean that there's no no one quick and so part of what i feel is that we will have understood the nature of like it i mean what happens now that that wasn't all those jobs i had i think the release of those houses is holding military industrial complex you talk about is the enemy and that is resting on the part of about a half a dozen southern senators and congressmen that virtually controlling your committees in the congress then you don't like that i'll question because so you write that off at its source with with richard russell of talmage eastland standards now the rivers in south carolina are birds bells of the people that keep the lid on that control military contracts that's spent two thirds of the federal budget on oppression around the world now if you know if

political violence is the two then they'll be directed in the direction of the enemy now the top cop on the beat is just another to loathing even the poverty programs they are not going to solve a quite different and that's why i think we got a look at a well in the mississippi us the child development group that was survival coat black people they took the poverty program in their own hands and they develop a network that really helped them to survive in the most vicious system racism so when the funds are taken right but they got a bag of rugby all in control now and then put it all in alabama and saying they've never been to be a time when you're totally in control and that is a constant struggle i can't be black hole in control of that deafening volley of his struggle and fight for and that's what it's all about you gotta fight which her head as well as witches

all was involved in fighting on every level of church politics is warfare without bloodshed and lafayette politics with bloodshed nine i would say that when we began to organize and educate our people so that we say to this military industrial establishment that it you know in our economy is based on steel automobile industry is the biggest consumer of steel we're going to go and then you would be they're not the kind of power that they they know they can counteract simply by people of a few people are certainly people are putting them in jail it onto which is there is it that are huge you don't have a single weapon would you cost and

wherever you find it you have to use it seems to me that there ought to be possible to identify a number of areas in which the self interest the very self interest of this general society dictate not continued suppression and the continued exploitation of latin america but rather opening this is it up so the people to begin to have some of the opportunities of years old have it seems to me that a wise administrator somebody was concerned about the survival of the nation are is going to move in certain directions to avoid the candle on the confrontation which is very clearly a possibility what i would think it would be wise for minority leadership to do would be to seek out and to interpret and to press those points in which there is a common self interest column of the economics political housing prisoners wherever they are first of all this was the policy of dr martin luther king actually people to move in their own

self interest in a huge and secondly odd what we're asking is something that humans and i don't think it's possible for this work is that was that you react to human problem anyway it's impossible in terms of human thing that anyone to make innovative history and what is doing now if that if yemen then with something else so i have to assume the monument in terms of the ages of the question of who's the pages the math is the math of the massive white people would agree with you on that point but these white people do not have any how they do not have any say they did not have any control in the interest of the people who are in charge now bowls of human being the mainly based on money and how you say if these people would move in their self interest and wouldn't be their own children in chicago and cracked their head they moved in their self interest they would send it on police and on college campuses where their own children of it they wouldn't do that sometimes their own people they

don't know and self interested we can be assured that the black people there were not more than they thought that is what is important for black people to move and that people felt that isn't that going to do whatever they wanted do the grassroots rightly taking youth you know he's seen as the american flags on the road cause i was a policeman you know in an open the police were honest like they had a cruise huge in a black city when we couldn't come out the house after twelve o'clock because the police were on site is on a local level of repression is going to go into you know more violently to the right and now at the national level though to be able to justify you know different i think of america you know like the moves to the conclusion that in a weekend about to be taken off of them or more are violent repression will come in the next a

lot of that comes around the next time he will be much slicker much hipper he will have the benefit of a psychedelic you know to be oriented speech writer anastasia let the match slip of publicity thing that'll corn won't you enjoy it was about time he will be writing you know what we actually could have that president nixon maybe not in this country people about that may not finish it if i'm asked the question people have a tendency to be suicidal or if the opposition we only his homicidal then can they afford but once people to the windham position that they might destroy this country well first of all i think that people are ready and that does this and secondly a black people are not suicidal at all the beautiful people interested in

surviving and living you know they're that people want and the interesting world problem that we are here and why journal we try to get it and various varying opinions on the show and we have found that it's very very difficult to find black people who will come and sit in front of a television camera and take a point of view which is considerably moderate or conservative or reactionary oh when you were blackout how do you explain the phenomenon that has the whiff if the new law in the death of the book the public uncle tom i'm thinking and particularly in that that individual who we all know has been very important member of the black community for a number of years who no longer available to us that and i'm thinking not only

the public uncle tom but also in moderate side and it's very difficult to get ana on the show and they didn't want to dial those who'd become the contemporary roots in alive thirty years ago he's been a gavel went to the lights in and said look i can get the story and i can you know get the vibe of the growth in the black community for each of the day what he is is i think the guy and then you know crucially and out of haiti is happiness and and the people around town they understand that and we've got to keep this man maintain the militants that anthem another thing is gonna be of use to us and so he's out the harlem on them about it and the drought in somalia if a bit of game with those things that the way of putting it over that at the same time for the death of his public political miracle are without now the camp justin

there are ways to change public policy visit the the whole question of criticizing other apple americans are the negros or the color people at a moderate organization within that we see is beginning to feel the weight and i think of course they're doing what i consider the committing suicide and i think this policy in the past have not criticizing blacks was a commando want despite their own public posture but i think that they are now that they haven't taken one of money for all these years and now it is called the jetsons cyril abandoned if you find out that the end of the lengthy he has been wanting to live with uncle tom edition we visit was in the context of we were joining the public uncle toms thing that you wouldn't say it

damon we've said that they did at one time both forms of useful function under normal family many people did at one time of probably i think that we had back in the very early years when you when you have the kind of mob rule between the seventies and the revenge that the only voice of the only one suit able to provide any kind of legal approach to the problem but i think that dionne in that they're just outlive their youthful of have eight of their last strike so the restaurants' about that that changed the world the episodic point all i know that the and the future all that we couldn't get on the program like yale to like to have on future programs so you be watching twitter like service in there to see us as we move along a thing like going to college in nineteen

sixty eight nineteen sixty nine killed hundreds you won't be watching like a journal our next why journal will be on monday january the twenty seven thunders you look you'll probably once again seize all of our guests as we enter this push them through the program or rather emotional thing to talk about the weekend you don't like i knew how to embrace her own black journal and so brothers and sisters until monday january twenty seventh agree with you that one case again thank you need me