PBS NewsHour; June 16, 2020, 6:00pm-7:00pm PDT

- Captioni sponsored by - NEWSHOUR PRODUCTIONS, LLC - >> Woodruff: GOOD EVENING, I'M - JUDY WOODRUFF. - ON THE NEWSHOUR TONIGHT, - POLICING THE POLICE-- THE - PRESIDENT SIGNS AN EXECUTIVE - ORDER ON LAW ENFORCEMENT AS - MAJOR QUESTIONS REMAIN ABOUT THE - WIDESPREAD USE OF FORCE. - THEN, CALLS FOR JUSTICE-- - OFFICERS HAVE YET TO BGED - IN THE DEATH OF BREONNA TAYLOR, - HOREE MONTHS AFTERHE WAST - TO DEATH IN HER OWN HOME. - PLUS, A SERIOUS SETBACK-- NORTH - KOREA DESTROYS A SYMBOL OF - RELATIONS WITH THE SOUTH, - INCREASING TENSIONAND - DERAILING ATTEMP - ENGAGEMENT. - AND, FIRST HAND EXPERIENCE-- WE - SPEAK TO ONE OF THE WORLD'S - LEADINRTS ON INFECTIOUS - DISEASES ABOUT CONTRACTING COVID - 19 HIMSELF. - >> YOUR WORLD SHRINKS - COMPLETELY. - YOU THINK OF BREATHING. - WILL I GET OUT OHERE? - HOW WILL I GET OUT OF HERE?

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- FOEDERING INFORMED AND ENGAG - COMMUNITIES. - MORE AT KF.org. - >> AND WITH THE ONGOING SUPPORT - OF THESE INSTITUTIONS: - >> THIS PRWAS MADE - POSSIBLE BY THE CORPORATN FOR - PUBLIC BROADCASTING. - AND BY CONTRIBUTIONS TO YOUR PBS - STATION FROM VIEWERS LIKE YOU. - THANK - f:drTLINED H WIS AGEooNDA FO PRO - BEGIN TO REFORM POLICING IN - AMERICA. - HE SIGNED AN EXECUTIVE ORDER - TODAY, AIMED AT GETTING POLICE - TO ADOPT NEW TRAINING AND USE- - OF-FORCE STANDARDS. - IT ALSO CREATES A DATABASE TO - TRACK POLICE MISCONDUCT. - SURROUNDED BY LAW ENFORCEMENT - OFFICIALS, MR. TRUMP SAID THE - CALL FOR LAW AND ORDER.S - >> AMERICANS BELIEVE WE MUST - SUPPORT MEN IN BLUE WHO POLICE - OUR STREETS AND KEEP US SAFE.

- AMERICANS ALSO BELIEVE WE MUST - IMPROVE ACCOUNTABILITY. - REDUCING CRIME AND RAISING - STANDARDS ARE NOT OPPOSITE - GOALS, THEY ARE NOT MUALLY - EXCLUSIVE. - THEY WORK TOGETHER. - TH AORK GE. - >> Woodruff: EARLIER, THE - PRESIDENT MET WITH THE FAMILIES - OF SEVERAL PEOPLE KILLED BY - WELOT AG, R - THE NEWS SUMMARY. - THE PRESIDENT'UNCEMENT - CAME AS SENATE REPUBLICANS - WORKED ON THEIR OWN PACKAGE OF - POLICE REFORMS. - AT A HEARING TODAY, MES BOTH PAF - FLOYD IN MINNEAPOLIS, - A TURNING POINT. - >> BEING A COP IS NO EASY THING, - YOU MAKE A LOT OF SNAP DECISIONS - WHERE YOUR LIFE IS THREATENED - AND THAT OF THE COMMUNITY, BUT - WE HAVE TO REALIZE TAKING - ANOTHER HUMAN BEING'S HILE - IN POLICE CUSTODY IS SOMETHING - WE SHOULD BE BETTER AT IN 2020 - THAN WE ARE. - >> IF WE ARE SILENT WE ARE - COMPLICIT. - IF WE STAND THERAND DEMAND

- DOMINANCE AND WAVE BIBLES, WERE - NO BETTER THAN MONSTERS, BUT IF - WE ACT AND ACTUALLY DO SOMETHING - AND GET THIS BILL PASSED, WELL - THEN WE'RE LAWMAKERS ANDHAT - WILL BE THE LEGACY OF GEORGE - FLOYD. - >> Woodruff: MEANWHILE, NEW YORK - CITY ANNOUNCED TODAY THAT - POLICEUST NOW RELEASE ALL - BODY-CAMERA FOOTAGE OF SHOOTINGS - OR OTHER DEADLY USE-OF-FCE, - WITHIN 30 DAYS. - AND, SEATTLE'S CITY COUNCIL - VOTED LAST NIGHT TO BAN TEAR GAS - CROWD-CONTROL DEVICES.AM - POLICE IN ALBUQUERQUE, NEW - MEXICO HAVE ARRESTED A MAN AFTER - A SHOOTING DURING A PROTEST LAST - IT HAPPENED AS DEMONSTRATORS - TRIED TO TEAR DOWN A SPANISH - CONQUISTADOR'S STATUE AND - THE MEN REPORTEDLY WERE PART OF - AN UNREGULATED MILITIA. - POLICE SAY PROTESTERS ATTACKED - ONE MAN, AND HE OPENED FIRE, - WOUNDING ONE OF THEM. - U.S. DEATHS FROM COVID-19 HAVE - NOW PASSED THE NUMBER OF

- ERICAN TROOPS KILLED IN WORLD - WAR ONE, AT WELL OVER 116,500. - THAT NEWS CAME TODAY AS VICE - PRESIDENT PENCED, IN "THE - WALL STREET JOURNAL," THAT TALK - OF A SECOND WAVE OF INFECTIONS - IS OVERBLOWN. - MEANWHILE, CHINA REIMPOSED - TRFEL RESTRICTIONS IN PARTS - BEIJING, AS IT FACES A NEW - THE CHAIRMAN OF THE FEDERAL - RESERVE WARNED TODAY THAT AN - PANDEMIC IS UNCERTFROM THE - JEROME POWELL TOLD A SENATE - HEARING THAT FIRST, THE PUBLIC - HAS TO REGAIN CONFIDENCE. - HIT - THE HARDEST. - >> THE BURDEN OF THE DOWNTURN - HAS NOT FALLEN EQUALLY ON AL - AMERICANS. - STEAD THOSE LEAST ABLE TO - WITHSTAND THE DOWNTURN HAVE BEEN - ED MOST. - IF NOT CONTAINED AND REVERSED, - THE DOWNTURN COULD FURTHER WIDEN - OMIC WELL-BEING THAT - THE LONG EXPANSION MADE SOME - PROGRESS IN CLOSING.>> Wdruff: O - REPEATED HIS EARLIER STATEMENTS - THAT CONGRESS WILL LIKELY HAVE

- TO CONSIDER ADDITIONAL STEPS -- - INCLUDING EXTENDED UNEMPLOYMENT - BENEFITS. - DESPITE THE FED'S FEARS, STOS - SHOT UP ON NEWS THAT RETAIL - SALES JUMPED NEARLY 18% IN MAY. - THE DOW JONES INDUSTRIAL AVERAGE - GAINED 526 POINTS TO CLOSE AT - 26,290. - THE NASDAQ ROSE 169 POINTS, AND, - THE S&P 500 ADDED 58. - INATALAYAS, A BOER - TURNEDRD DEADLY OVERNIGHT, FOR E - FIRST TIME IN DECADES. - NEW DELHI SAYS 20 INDIAN TROOPS - WERE KILLED IN THE LADAKH - REGION, AS SOLDIERS FOUGHT WITH - IRON RODS AND ST - WE'LL EXAMINE THE LONGSTANDING - BORDER DISPUTE LATER IN THE - PRRAM. - NORTH KOREA DRAMATICALLY - ESCALATED TENSIOPE ON THE KOREAN - NSULA TODAY. - THE NORTH BLEW UP AN EMPTY - BUILDINGOUSING A LIAISON - OFFICE WITH SOUTH KOREA, JUST - NORTH OF THEIR HEAVILY ARMED - BORDER. - OFFICIALS IN SEOUL WARNED OF - REPERCUSSIONS, IF ANYTHING ELSE

- HAPPENS. - >> ( translated ): THE SOUTH - KOREAN GOVERNMENT MAKES IT CLEAR - Y FOR ALL - ILE RESULTING SITUATIONS ITHS - ITENTIHERELY O RN NORTIBH KOREPS - WE STERNLY WARN THAT IF NORTH - KOREA CONTINUES TO TAKE MEASURES - THAT AGGRAVATE THE SITUATION, WE - WILL STRONGLY RESPOND TO IT. - >> Woodruff: NORTH KOREA HAS - SO CUT COMMUNICATIONS WITH - SEOUL RECENTLY, AND THREATENED - TO ABANDON PEACE AGREEMENTS. - WE'LL RETURN TO THIS, LATER IN - THE PROGRAM. - BACK IN THIS COUNTRY, THE U.S. - JUSTICE DEPARTMENT HAS ORDERED - EXECUTIONS OF FEDERAL DEATH ROW - INMATES TO RESUME, IN MID-JULY. - THEY WOULD BE THE FIRST SINCE - 2003. - ATTORNEY GENERAL WILLIAM BARR - ISSUED THE DIRECTIVE, AFTER A - MONTHS-LONG LEGAL FIGHT. - AND, PACIFIC GAS AND ELECTRIC - GUILTY TODAY TO 84 COUNTS - OF INVOLUNTARY MANSLAUGHTER IN - NORTHERN CALIFORNIA. - IT STEMS FROM A 2018IRE - THAT DESTROYED MOST OF THE TOWN - OF PARADISE. - THE FIRE WITED BY PG&E'S

- NO EXECUTIVES WILL BE CHARGED. - INSTEAD, THE UTILITY FACES A - MAXIMUM FINE OF $3.5 M. - STILL TO COME ON THE NEWSHOUR: - ORDER ON POLICE REFORM.E - MAJOR QUESTIONS REMAINNATIONWIDW - WIDESPREAD USE OF - FORCE. - CALLS FOR OFFICERS TO BE CHARGED - IN THE D - GROW LOUDER.A TAYLOR - AND MUCH MORE. - >> Woodruff: AS WE REPORTED - EARLIER, PRESIDENT TRUMP SIGNED - AN EXECUTIVE ORDER TODAY ON - POLICING, AMID GROWING CALLS FOR - POLICE REFORMS AND RACIAL - JUSTICE. - YAMICHE ALCINDOR JOINS ME NOW. - HELLO, YAMICHE.SO TELL US, WHATT - THIS POINT ABOUT WHAT'S IN THIS

- EXECUTIVE ORDER THAT THE - PRESIDENT WANTS TOO ABOUT THE - POLICE THIS THIS COUNTRY? - >> WELL, PRPESIDENT TR - EXECUTIVE ORDER ON PICING IS - THE MOST SWEEPING ACTION THAT - HE'S TAKEN ON POLICING SINCE HE - WAS ELECTED AND CAME INTO - OFFICE. - THAT SAID, MANY EXPERTS AND - PEOPLE WHO ARE WORKING ON - POLICING EFFORTS IN THIS COUNTRY - SAY THIS EXECUTIVE ORDER DOESN'T - REALLY HAVE A LOT OFEETH. - IT TRIES TO INCENTIVIZE A LOT OF - POLICE DEPARTMENTS INTO DOING - THINGS LIKE ESTABLISHING - TRAINING AND POLICIES ON USE OF - FORCE THROUGH FEDERALRANTS - RATHER THAN FORCING THEM TO DO - SOMETHING. - SO SOME THINGS IN THE EXECUTIVE - ORDER, THEREER D'TIO IEMSTS ATET - AC RATSTM, - BISSAY LAUTW ENFOEMENT OFFICIAS - MISUSE THEIR POWER, AND THAT HAS - LED TO MISTRUST, PARTICUARLY IN - THE AFRICAN AMERICAN COMMUNITY. - IT'S ALSO PUSHING NOR A NATIONAL - DATABASE THE TRA O BICERS - WHO ARE ACCUSED OF WRONGDOING - THAT MAYBE GO FROM DEPARTMENT T - DEPARTMENT AS DATA SHOWS THAT - THEY DO. - THE OTHER THING THAT IT DOES IS - TALK CHOKEHOLDS. - THE PRESIDENT MADE A POINT OF

- SAYING TODAY THAT CHOKEHOLDS - WILL BE BANNED UNLESS POLICE - OFFICERS FEAR FOR THEIR LIVES. - GELOT OF PEOPLE SAY THAT DOESN'T - CHUCH BECAUSE THAT STILL - MEANS THAT POLICE OFFICERS CAN - SAY, I FEARED FOR MY LIFE. - AT'S ONE OF THE MOST COMMO - THINGS THAT POLICE OFFICERS SAY - WHEN THEY KILL SOMEONE. - THE OTHER THING TO NOTE IS THAT - IS FOCUSED ON TRYING CHANGE THE - CULTURE OF POLICING. - ESIDENT REALLY TALKED TO A - LOT OF ADVISERS, TALKED TO A LOT - OF LAWRS AND FAMILY MEMBE - FOR PEOPLE WHO HAVE BEEN KILLED - BY THE POLICE TO COME UP WITH - THIS, BUT EHIVEN WITH STILL, - DEMOCRATS ARE SAYING THIS JUST - ISN'T GOING FAR ENOUGH, ND - HOUSE SPEAKER NANCY PELOSI TODAY - CALLED IT WEAK, SAYING THAT EVE' - THOUGH MENTIONING ALL SORTS - OF THINGS THAT ACTIVISTS WANT, - IT'S NOT GAR FAR ENOUGHAT. - WHAT I HEAR FROM PEOPLE - AS I TRY TO GET FEEDBACK ABOUT - THE EXECUTIVE ORDER. - >> Woodruf SO YAMICHE, W - ALSO KNOW THE PRESIDENT MET - TODAY WITH FAMILY MEMBERS OF A - NUMBER OF THOSE WHO HAVE BEEN - KILLED BY POLICE IN THIS - COUNTRY. - WHAT DO WE KNOW ABUT

- THOSE FAMILY MEMBERS. - >> THAT'S RIGHT, JUDY. - THE PRESIDENT SPENTAN - HOUR MEETING WITH FAMILY MEMBERO - OF PEOPLE WHO HAD EITHER BEE - KILLED BY THE POLICE OR WHO HAD - BEEN KILLED IN RACIALLY CHARGED - IINCIDENTS. - WHEARD FROM THE LAWYER OF - THOSE FAMILIES WELL AS - SEVERAL FAMILIES WHO WERE IN - THAT MEETIN THE PRESIDENT - EXPRESSED SYMPAT. - HE LISTENED TO A NUMBER OF - FAMILIES AS THEY EXPLAINED THEIR - SITUATION. - THE PRESIDENT SAID THAT H - NTED TO HAVE FEDERAL - INVESTIGATIONS INTO EACH ONE OF - TALKED TO A MAN NAMED DWAYNE - PALMER, WHOSE BROTHER EVERETT - PALMER DIED MYSTERIOUSLY INA - PENNSYLVANIA JAIL. - HE SAID WHILE THE PRESIDENT WAS - KFEINOFWO KRTNGZWO.RID HIN - WORDS. - WE WANT ACTION." - DWAYNE TOLD HEAGNEY MEL LIKE THE - PRESIDUSWAENAINS T TG HIS OFMT - HAVE BEEN A GREAT KID, THIS MUST - HAVE BEEN TERRIBLE.HE SAID HE WE - SPECIFIC ACTIONS THAT THE - PRESIDENT SAID HE WANTED TR DO. - THE OTHEING TO NOTE IS THE - PRESIDENT SIGNED THE EXECUTIVE - ORDER IN THE ROSE GARDEN. - HE WAS SURED BY LAW

- ENFORCEMENT OFFICIALS AS THEY - WERE CLAPPING AND REALLY - ONPLAUDING FOR A JOB WELL DSE - GARDEN WERE THOSE FAMILIES OF - LOVED ONES WHO WERE KILLED. - E WAS TOLD THAT A LOT OF THOS - FAMILIES DIDN'T WANT TO BE USED - AS "PROPS." - DWAYNE PALMER TOLD ME HE WAS - VERY WORRIED ABOUT BEG USED AS - A PHOTO OP. - HE DIDN'T WANT PRESIDENT TRUMP - TO CLAIM VICTORY WITH A SEA OF - BLOCK AND BROWN VOICES. - INSTEAD HE SAID, I'M HAPPY TO - GIVE HIM CREDIT FOR THE - EXECUTIVE ORDER, BUT IWANT H - TO DO MORE. - >> Woodruff: YAMICHE ALCOR - FOLLOWING ALL THIS TODAY AT THE - WHITE HOUSE. - YAMICHE, WE THANK YOU. - >> Woodruff: THE SHOOTING DEATH - OF RAYSHARD BROOKS THIS WEEKEND - HAS ADDED NEW FUEL TO THE - NATIONAL CONVERSATION AND - E OFESTS AROUND THE USFORC

- ATLANTA POLICE ANSWERED A CALL - DRIVTHH.BR WOOLEASEPN S CAR ADS - AS - THE ENCOUNTER BEGAN CALMLY BUT - ESCALATED WHEN PICE TRIED TO - ARREST BROOKS FOR DRUNK DRIVING. - BROOKS FOUGHT WITH THE OFFICERS, - THEN RAN AWAY WITH ONE OF THEIR - TASER GUNS. - WHILE FLEEING, ONE OF THE - OFFICERS SHOT BROOKS TWICE IN - THE BACK. - F W AIRASED - EHAFIRGLEESD MTHIS WEEEK. - LORE THIS CASE AND THE - LARGER QUESTIONS WITH PAUL - BUTLER, WHO SPECIA - LIZEINAL LAW AND RINACE AT - GEORGETOWN LAW SCHOOL, - AND, RETIRED POLICE OFFICER - DAVID THOMAS, WHO NOW TEACHES - FORENSIC STUDIES AT FLORIDA GULF - COAST UNIVERSITY. - HELLO TO BOTH OF YOU. - THANK YOU SO MUCH FOR BEING - HE 4. - I KNOW THIMINUTE ENCOUNTER - IS TOO MUCH TO GO OVER EVERY - SECO OF IT, BUT THH TWO - HAVE LOOKED AT AS MUCHOUOF THA N - RELEASED. - MY QUESTION TO YOU IS: COULD

- INIS HAVE BEEN HEADED OFF FROM - THE VERY BING? - DID THE POLICE, COMING ACROSS A - MAN SITTING IN HIS CAR WHO HAD - FALLEN ASLEEP, DID THEY END - .DY EYVE TRREST HIM? - PAUL BUTLER, I'M GOING TO COME - TO YOU FIRST. - >> S JUDY, WE SEE THE FIRST5 - MINUTES OF THE ENCOUNTER IS - CIVIL. - AT FIRST THE OFFICER WHO - RESPONDS SAYS, WHY DON'T YOU - JUST TAKE YOUR CAR FROM THE - DRIVEWAYO THE PARKING LOT AND - SLEEP IT OFF. - THAT'S EFFECTIVE LICING. - BUT LATER WHEN THE OFFICER WHO - ENDS UP KILLING MR. BROOKS SHOWS - UP, MR. BROOKS SAYS, IF YOU'RE - CONCNED ABOUT MY DRIVING, MY - SISTER LIVES TWO BLOCKS AWAY, I - CAN JUST WALK TO HER HOUSE AND - LEAVE THE CAR THERE. - THAT ALSO IS EFFECTIVEOLICING. - THE COPS DON'T HAVE TO ARREST - EVERYONE. - PUBLEENG - BUUTTWOBO OFTEN, ESPECIALLY WITA - SOMETIMES IT LEADS TSE - TRAGIC CONSEQUENCES.

- Woodruff: DAVID THOMAS, LET - ME ASK YOU ABOUT THAT MOMENT - WHEN POLICE MADE THE DECISION - EAD,TOHENOY DT EC JIDT EUS I THD - GIVE HIM A TEST, WHETHER HE HAD - BEEN DRIVING UNDER THE - ADINFLUENCE, AND THEN THEY - THE DECISION TO ARREST HIM. - DID THEY HAVE A CHOICE TO SAY, - YOU CAN GO? - THE PROBLEM WITH MAKING THVINGO - OOICE - USG DISCRETION, WHATUALLY - HAPPENS IN THAT PROCESS IS IF I - URT HIM GO, THERE'S NOTHING TO - KEEP HIM FROM RING TO THAT - VEHICLE AND DRIVING IT. - AND HE'S IMPAIRED. - SO BECAUSE OF THAT,HE POLE - DO NOTHING, AND IF HE KILLS - SOMEBODY, THEN THE POLICE ARE - E-EDGED SWORD.LD LIABLE FO DOUBR - IN MOST INSTANCES, I'VE SEEN - THIS HAPPEN WHERE COMES - BAE, - CLETHADS TOAR A CHASE. - IT'S A MESS SOME THE REALITY IS - I THINK THAT AS MUCH AS I WOULDE - O SAY, DON'T MAKE THE - ARREST, I DON'T THINK YOU HAVE

- MUCH OF A CHOICE BECAUSE THE - OFFICERS ARE RESPON - BLABE.OUTHAT? - THE OFFICERS WERE WITH A - DECISION ABOUT WHAT TO DO ABOUT - WHAT THEY FOUND THERE? - >> ALITY IS POLICEFFICERS - ALWAYS EXERCISE DISE - MOST COPS WILL TELL YOU THEY - ONCERTAINLY DON'T ARREST EVERYBY - WHO THEY HAVE PROBABLE CAUSE TO - ARREST. - SO IT'S ABOUT COMMON SENSE - HAV SAI I - THE CEDOFFIULR CO - I SEE YOU IN THIS CAR, I'M GOING - TO LOCK YOU UP, BUT AGAIN, - MR. BROX SAID, ALL I HAVE TO DO - IS WALKWO BLOS AWAY. - THEIRW FROM THE EVIDENCE THAT - DISCRETION NOT TO ARREST ALL THE - TIME, AND WHITE PEOPLE ARE - DISPROPORTIONATELY GET THE - BENEFIT OF THOSE DECISIONS NOT - TO ARREST. - AFRICAN AMERICAN PEOPLE AND - HISPANIC PEOPLE - DISPROPORTIONATELY GET LOCKED - UP.

- >> Woodruff: AND PICK UP ON - THAT, DAVID THOMAS, BECAUSE WHEN - THE POINT CAME THAT THEYID TRY - TO ARREST HIM, HE RESISTED. - THERE WAS A FIGT. - MR. BROOKS TOOK THE TASER OF ONE - OF THE OFFICERS. - HE RAN, FIRED THE TASER, THEN - WHAT COULD THE POLICE HAVE DONE - AT THAT POINT? - THAT MOMENT. FOR THE POLICE INE - >> WELL, THE OPTIONS AR QUITE - FRANKLY, THE OFFICER NEVER HAD - TO USE HIS FIREARM. - BUT ON THE OTHER SE OF, THAT - WHAT YOU REALLY HAVE TO - RECOGNIZE IS WHAT GEORGIA - STATUTE IS AND WHAT THE ATLANTA - POLICE DEPARTMENT'S POLICY IS. - WEAPON, THE TAR IS.A DEADLY - M FACT, IT IS CLASSIFIED AS A - FIREDER GEORGIA STATUTE. - THE OFFICER DIDN'T HAVE TO FIRE, - BUONCE HE BEGAN THAT, AND - PEOPLE NEED TO UNDERSTAND THAT - DYWHATEV START THAT, DRAWINOMG - , YOU - CAN'T JUST TURN ITFF LIKE A

- SWITCH. - IT IS... IT HAS TO GO THROUGH - INTOOMPLETION. - SO FROM ALL THINGS, I WOULD SAY - THAT THIS SHOOTING, ALTHOUGH - AWFUL, IT WOUL PROBABLY BE - CLASSIFIED IN PLICEING AS WHA - WE CALL "LAWFUL BUT AWFUL." - >> Woodruff: PAULUTLER, YOU - ARGUMENT IS IT INNER SHOULD HAVE - GOT ON THE THAT POINT, BUT ONCE - IT DID, WHAVE OPTION DID THE - OFFICERS HAVE? - >> WELL, THE POLICE ARE ONLY - ALLOWED TO USE DEADLY FORCE TO - REPEL A DEADLY THREAT, THAT IS - SOMEONE ELSES ABOUT TO BE - THE USE OF FORCE H BE - PROPORTIONATE. - THE POLICE CANNOT KILL IN ORDER - TO PREVENT NON-DEADLY THREAT. - THE IRONY IS THAT POLICE - OFFICERS ARE TRAINED THAT TASERS - ARE AN ALTERNATIVE TO DEADLY - FORCE. - THEY ARE NOT CONSIDERED DEADLY - FORCE UNDER THE LAW, SO THE

- ISSUE IN THIS CASE IS WHETHER - THE OFFICER REASONABLY USED - DEADLY FORCE BECAUSE HE REALLY - THOUGHTHATR. BROOKS WAS - WING TO KILL HIM, OR RATHER ON - THE OTHER HAND THE OFFICER - PUSHING OR RETALIATING AGAINST - MR. BROOKS FOR RESISTING ARREST? - >> Woodruff: THERE'S SOMETHING - I WANT TO SHOW BOTH OF YOU. - THERE WAS AOTABLE MOMENT TODAY - AT A HEARING OF THE SENATE - BETWEEN TEXAS REPUBLICAN SENATOR - JOHN CORNYN AND VINITA GUPTA, - WHO WAS THE HEAD OF THE CIVIL - RIGHTS DIVISION IN THE JUSTICE - DEPARTMENT UNDER PRESIDENT - OBAMA. - I WANT TO ASK YOU TO LISTENAN TO - THISTHEN I HAVE A QUESTION - AFTER. - >> YOU CHANGEHE PHRASE FROM - SYSTEMATIC TO STRUCTURAL RACISM. - THAT MEAVERYTHINGEVER - INSTITUTION, EVERY PERSON IN - AMERICA IS A RACIST? - >> IT MEANS THAT THERE IS BIA - BUILT INTO INSTITUTIONS. - IN POLICING, THERE HAVE BEEN ANY - OLICER OF COURAGIEFS THAVEPON TE - TUURA BRACI>>DOMT OU Y CAN EXIST

- INDIVIDUAL RESPONSIBILITY? - OR DO YOU THINK IT'S ONE OR THE - HINK EVERY AMERIHECR?AN - INSTITUTION HAS BEEN KIND OF - SHED BY THESE FORCESAND OUR - GOAL IS DO WHAT WE CAN AS - POLICY-MAKERS, AS ADVOCATES, TO - TAKE THAT OUT AND TO TRY TO - FIGHT IT IN T - WELL, DO YOU - BRACIST?RCA - L> I THINK WEV ALL HAVE IMPLICIT - BIAS AND RACIAS, YES, WE - DO. - >> Woodruff: DAVID THOMAS, I - WANT TO COME TO YOU. - THE TWO OF YOU HAVE STUDIED THE - POLICE IN THIS COUNTRY.SA - IS IT FAIR T THAT THERE IS - MOST IF NOTTHISLL A COUNTRY? - 'ANHE.AT

- WE ALL BS RING THAT TO THE TABL. - ER AOFIFFIANCER, ONCE - THEY BECOME A POLICE OFFICER, - THAT BIAS COMES INTO THEIR - POLICING. - IT'S.HAT AMERICA - WE ALL HAVE OUR S LIKEANRD OU E. - >> Woodruff: PAUL BUTLER? - O BIAS IS SOMETHING THAT IS - LEARNED. - WE'RE NOT BORN PREJUDICEED. - THAT'S GOOD NEWS. - THAT MEANS WE CAN UNLEARN IT. - JUST WITNESSED IS ABOUT WHETHER - THE PROBLEM IS A FEW D APPLE - COPS, WHICH IS HOW THE TRUMP - ADMINISTRATION POSITITNS OR - RATHER THE ISSUES ARE MORE - SYSTEMATIC. - WE KNOW IN ATLANTA, THAT'S THE - SAME POLICE DEPARTMENT THAT TWO - FWEEKS AGOED OFFICERS BECAUSE - UDE LLTOPPED A CAR,E DRAGGD TWO

- STF REASTSON. - PRESIDENT OBAM'S COMMISSION ON - STARTS, CULTURES HAVE TO CHANGE. - THE PROBLEM IS TOO MANY COPS - THINK OF THEMSELVES AS WARRIORS. - GUARDIANS ISHE BETTER MODEL - SO IF WE HAD THAT CULTURE CHANGE - IN ATLANTA, WE HIGH SEE E KIND - OF POLICING THAT CITIZENS - RESPECT. - CONVERSATION, HUNTING SUBJECT. - THIS IS JUST ONE OF MANY - CONVERSATIONS WE'RGOING TO BE - HAVING ON THE NEWS HOUR ABOUT - THIS. - FOR JOINING US.HANK BOTH OF YOU - PAUL BUTLER, DAVID THOMAS, THANK - YOU SO MUCH. - >> THANK YOU. - >> ALWAYS A PLEASURE, JUDY. - >> Woodruff: BEFORE THE KILLINGS - OF RAYSHARD BROOKS IN ATLANTA

- AND OF GEORGE FLOYD IN - MANNEAPOLIS, CITIZENS IN ANOTHER - ERTYR GEE WBYANAT - WOMAHE HANDS OF POLICE - THIS SPRING. - JOHN YANG REPORTS ON THE CASE OF - BREONNA TAYLOR. - >> HANDS UP! - N'T SHOOT! - LOUISVILLE, KENTUCLICE - KILLED THE 26-YEAR-OLD EMERGENCY - ROOM TECHNICIAN IN HER OWN - APARTMENT, HER NAME RINGS OUT IN - THE STREETS. - NAONAY TR!LOAME! - >> Yang: IT WAS AFTER MIDNIGHT - ON MARCH 13th WHEN THREE POLICE - OFFICERS BRO - TAYLOR'S DOOR WHILE SERVING A - DRUG WARRANT. - EVEN THOUGH IT WAS A "NO-KNOCK" - WARRANT, POLICE SAY TH DID - KNOCK AND IDENTIFY THEMSELVES; - TAYLOR'S FAMILY SAYS THEY - DIDN'T. - THE OFFICERS EXCHANGED GUNFIRE - WITH KENNETH WALKER, TAYLOR'S - BOYFRIEND, WHO SAID HE THOUGHT - SOMEONE WAS BREAKING IN. - SHE WAS HIT AT LEAST EIGHT - TIMES, AND DIED. - WALKER CALLED 911. - >> I DON'T KNOW WHAT'SMERGENCY? - HAPPENING. - SOMEBODY KICKED IN THE DOOR AND

- EMONRATIGIRLFRIEND. - an - STARTING NEAR LOUISVILLE CITY - HALL, AND SWEEPING ACROSS THE - NATION. - TAYLOR'S MOTHER, TAMIKA PALMER, - HAS LED THE CALLS FOR JUSTICE. - >> TO KNOW BREONNA, SHE WAS FULL - OF LIFE. - SHE LOVED LIFE. - SHE RESPECTED LIFE. - THIS IS SO MUCH BIGGER THAN HER. - P Yang: DURING PROTESTS ON JUNE - 1,OLICE SHOT AND KILLED DAVID - McATEE, A BLACK MAN WHO OWNED A - LOCAL RESTAURANT.THLOUISVILLE PS - WRED AFTER IT WAS REVEALED THE - BODY CAMERN BY THE - OFFICERS INVOLVED WERE TURNED - TYF. - SINCE THEN, THE ANDATED - HAT BECAUSE BODY CAMERAS. - >> - OF THE LIFE AND LEGACY OF MS. - BREONNA TAOR. - "NO-KNOCK" E USMIE LYOF - WARRANTS. - ATTORNEY BEN CRUMP REPRESENTS

- TAYLOR'S FAMILY. - >>T FIRST, ONLY HER MAMA AND - HER SISTER WERE SAYING HER NAME. - BUT NOW THE WHOLE WORLD IS - ME.INGNARE, ONMULOCH T OAYF NAW - HAPPENED THAT NIGHT IN TAYLOR'S - APARTMENT REMAINS A MYSTERY. - MOST OF THE POLICE REPORT ON THE - INCIDENT WAS LEFT BLANK. - HANNAH DRAKE IS A LOUISVILLE - ERTIVIST AND AUTHOR. - >>ASE WAS HIDDEN, HIDDEN - FROM LOUISVILLE, HIDDEN FROM - KENTUCKY, AND HIDDEN FROM - K.ERICA PRIMARILY BECAUSE SHE'S - AND SECONDARILY, BECAUSE SHE'S A - LLMAN. - >> Yan THE WHILE, THE - STREETS CHANT BREONNA TAYLOR'S - NAME. - >> SAY HER NAME! - >> BREONNA TAYLOR! - >> Yang: THE F.B.I. IS - INVESTIGATING TAYLOR'S KILLING. - THE THREE OFFICERS INVOLVED ARE - ID ADMINISTRATIVE REASSIGNMENT - ALLS FOR THEM TO BE FIRED, - ARRESTED AND CHARGED. - ANDREA RITCHIE IS A RESEARCHER - SHE IS THE AUTHOR OF "INVISIBLE - NO MORE: POLICE VIOLENINST - BLACK WOMEN AND WOMEN OF COLOR."

- ANDREA RITCHIE, THANKS SO MUCH - FOR JOINING US. - EARLIER IN THE SHOW, JUST BEFORE - THIS SEGMENT, WE HEARD A - DISCUSSION ABOUT RAYSHARD - BROOKS' CASE IN ATLANTA. - ATIS HAPPENED ON FRIDAY. - ALREADY IC OFFF S CRR IMEINHAALS - AGAINST HIM. - BREONNA TAYLOR WAS KILLED THREE - FORCE. - THEYRE ON ADMINISTRATIVE - REASSIGNMENT. - AND AS FAR AS WE KNOW PUBLICLY - THE INVESTIGATION HAS HAD VERY - LITTLE MOVEMENT. - , VERY LITTLE PUBLIC MOVEMENT. - WHAT DO YOU MAKE OF THAT - DIFFERENCE? - >> I DEFINITELY THINK THAT IT - HAS TO DO WITH HOW WE SEE AND - UNDERSTAND VIOLENCE AND WHO IT - IMPACTS AND HOW IT'S IMPACTEDDEN - THINK IT ALSO HAS TO D WITH - THE JURISDICTION. - IT'SONG PAST TIME FOR THOSE - OFFICERS TO BE FIRED. - ER HIT'S LONG PASTIM TOR F - REPARATIONS AND HEALING HA - THEY'RE OWED AND DESERVED. - I THINK PART OF IT IS ABOUT HOW - I THINK OUR UNDERSTANDING OF - STATE VIOLENCE IS SHAPED BY THE - EXPERIENCES OFLACK MEN LIKE

- RAYSHARD, WHO ARE PERCIVED TO - BE THE SORT OF QUINTESSENTIAL - MARGETS FROM THE TIME OF - LYNCHING TO THE OF THE - PRESENT, AND THAT THE - EXPERIENCES OF WOMEN, OFER - GEASED VIOLENCE AS KIND OF - SHAPED BY OUR UNDERSTANDING OF - WHITE WOMEN EXPERIENCING - DOMESTIC VIOLENCE IN T HOME, - AND AS A RESULT, BLACK WOMEN WHO - EXPERIENCE BOTH STATE AND - VIOLENCE IN HOIVMESE AND WE - LITERALLY DON'T SEE THEM, EVEN - EN THE VIOLENCE IS HAPPENING - TO THEM IN FRONT OF US. - I THINK THAT POLICE REPORT THAT - YOSHOWED THAT INDICATED HAT - THERE WAS NO INJURY TO A BLACK - WOMAN WHO WAS GUNNED DOWN IF - HAIL OFULLETS IN HE OWN BED - AND KILLED IS JUST THE MOST - EXTREME EXAMPLE HOW WE DON - HAVE THE SAME REACTION WHEN WE - SEE STATE VIOLENCE AGAINSBLK - WOMEN AS WE DO AGAINACST OTHER - PEOPLE. - LET ME JUST SAY, STATE VIOLENCE - GENERALLY, WHETHER IT'S AGAINST - BLACK MEN OROMEN, DOESOTDEES. - I'M GLAD THOSE OFFIC A - RSSTOP THESE KILLINGS. - >> Yang: LOUISVIL HAS BANNED - IN RENESS TO THIS, BAN NOD-KNOCK - WARRANTS.

- THEY CALLED IT BREONNA'S LAW. - HOW EFFECTIVE DO YOU THINK THATB - WI - >> I THINK IT'S GOOD WE'RE - STEPPING BACK TO LOOK AT HOW - THOSE POLICE OFFICERS CAME TO BE - F HER DOOR AND LOOKING TO - INTERRUPT ONE E MECHANISMS - THAT RESULTED IN HER DEATH AND - ALSO IN THE DEATH OF I CAN NAME - NO-KNOCK WARRANTS, TERESALLED BY - WILSON, ALBERTA SPRIEWL, JONE. - THIS IS NOT THE FIRST TIME, SO I - THINK STOP NOTHING-KNOCK - WARRANTS IS IMPORT - AND WE NEED TO RECOGNIZE THAT - INCREASING THE TIME THAT FOLKS - HAVE TOP ROND TO 15 OR 30 - SECONDS OR A MINUTE, IMAGINE - SOMEONE BACKING ON YOUR DOOR IN - THE MIDDLE OF[Uh THEIGHT. - THAT'S NOT ENOUGH TIME TO - UNDERSTAND WHAT'S GOING ON - TETHER. - WE NEED TO MAYBEFURTHER - BACK AND ASK WHY ARE PEOPLE - SHOWING UP, ARMED POLICE - OFFICERS SHOWING UP ON PEOPLE'S - DOOR FOR NO-KNOCK OR - SHORT-KNOCK WARRANTS. - WE NEED TO LOOK ATHE WAR ON - DRUGS, WHICH IS WHERE THOSE - WARRANTS CAME FROM AND WHAT - BROUGHT THOSE OFFICERS TO WHERE - BREONNA'S DOOR. - WEEED TO PPRETHINACH.

- AND WE NEED TO SAVE LIVES, NOT - TAKING THEM IN THEY BREONNA - TAYLOR'S WAS TAKEN. - A Yang: YOU SPOKE ABOUT - SOCIETY'S VIINST POLICE - VIOLENCE AGAINST BACK PEOPLE, - HOW IT'S SHAPED BY VIOLENCE - AGAIT BLACK MEN INCH YOUR - STUDY, YOU TALK A LOT ABOUT HOW - THE DIFFERENCES IN THE WAY BLACK - WOMEN INTERACT WITH POLICE. - TALK ABOUT SOME OF THOSE - DIFFERENCES. - THAT WE EXPERIENCY OF THEHE FACT - SA FORMS OF VIOLENCE. - POLICE VIOLENCE THAT BLACK WOMEN - EXPERIENCE ALSO HAPPENS IN - PRIVATE AS IT DIDOBREONNA - TAYLOR. - IT OFTEN HAPPENS IN THE CONTEXT - OF THE WAR ON DRUGS, A SORT OF - BY ASSOCIATION IN THE WAY THAT - THE OFFICER SOMEHOW THOUGHT THAT - SHE WAS ASSOCIATED WITH - SOMETHING THAT SHE WAS NOT AT - ALL ASSOCIATED WITH. - ALSO IT HAPPENS IN THE CONTEXT - OF CALLS FOR HELP, CALLS FOR - HELP IN MENTAL HEALTH CRISIS, - LLS FOR HELP FOR DOMESTIC - VIOLENCE, CALLS FOR HELP AROUND - SEXUAL ASSAULT. - CKLLS FOR HELP, U YOOW,TAANA JEA - WELLNESS CCAN WIND UP BEING - A DEADLY INTERVENTION WITH

- POLICE. - SO I THINK WHAT THAT TELLS US IS - THAT IT MOVES US MORE QUKLY TO - NDEOLOT T AILPLLE PND AECROSS TE - COUNTRY TO DEFUND POLICE AND - INVEST IN DNIFFERENT RESPS TO - THOSE THINGS, TO MENTAL HEALTH - NEEDS, TO DOMESTIC VIOLENCE OR - XUAL ASSAULT TO WELLNES - CHECKS THAT WOULDN'T HAVE ARMED - POLICE OFFICERS COMING INTO A - HOME AT POTENTIALLY HARMINHE - PERSON THAT THEY'RE OSTENSIBLY - THERE TO PRONSCT, ANDEAD WE - EOCUS ON PREVENTION MEASURE, - INTERVENTIONURE, AND HARM - AND ACCOUNTABILITY AND - TRANSFORMATION MEASURES THAT - DON'T RESULT IN TH EDSWOINN - PARTICULARLY AND TRANS AND - GENDER NON-CONFORMING PEOPLE - IC PWHE OLAR - >> Yang: ANDREA RITCHIE, A - RESEARCHER AT BARNARD COLLEGE - AND AN ATTORNEY REPRESENTING - PEOPLE INVOLVED IN POLICE - VIOLENCE, THANK YOU VERY MUCH. - >> THANK YO FOR HAVING ME. - >> Woodruff: NOW, THE WORLD'S - TWO MOST-POPULOUS NATIONS, BOTH

- NUCLEAR POWERS, IN A DEADLY FACE - THE HIMALAYAS.TED BORDER HIGH IN - >> Reporter: JUDY, THAT DECADES- - OLD BORDER DISPUTE BETWEEN CHINA - AND INDIA CENTERS ON THE FACT - THAT THERE IS NO CLEAR BORDER. - WHAT IS CALLED THE "LINE OF - ACTUAL CONTROL" STRETCHES FOR - MORE THAN 2,000 MILES ACROSS THE - TENSIONS HAVE RUN ER THER. - LAST MONTH IN THIS FRIGID PLACE. - THE 20 INDIAN SOLDIERSIN - MURKY CIRCUMSTANCES IN THELW - TREACHEROUS VALLEY; THERE - WERE NO FIREARMS, AND THERE WAS - NO CONFIRMED WORD OF CHINESE - DEHS OR CASUALTIES. - FOR MORE ON THIS DISPUTE, ITS - HISTORY, A WHAT HAPPENS NOW, - I'M JOINED BY ALYSSA AYRES, - WHO'S SENIOR FELW FOR INDIA, - SOUCIL ON FOREIGN RELIONS. - S - ASIA. - ALYSSA, THANKS FOR JOINING US. - BRIEFLY EXPLAIN THE ROOTS OF

- COVERING THIS IMPORTANT AND - WORRISOME OUTBREAK OF TENSIONS. - IT'S IMPORTANT, FIRST OALL, - BECAUSE THESE ARE TWO NUCLEAR - ARMED POWERS THAT SHARE A BORD - THAT THEY DON'T FULLY -- THEY - HAVE NOT DELINEATED THIS BOARDER - IN ANY WAY. - AFTER MORE THAN 20 ROUNDS OF - BORDER Ta - STILL HASN'T BEEN ACCURATELY - DEMARCATED. - D YOU CAN SEE WITHOUT THE - ABILITY ERMINE WHERE - CLAIMS BEGIN AND END, THERE'S - GOING TO BE DIFFERCES AND - DISPUTES OVER THE BORDER. - ENPPENING. - THAT'S WHAT'S UNFOLDING - OVER THE COURSE OF THE LAST - MONTH. - >> Rorter: DO WE KNOW - SPECIFICALLY, ALYSSA, WHAT LED - TO TODAY'S CONFRONTATION? - >> NO, WE DO NOT. - I'M LOOKING FOR MORE REPORTING. - ALL THE REPORTING WE'VE HAD SO - FAR HAS BEEN COMING FROM TH - INDIAN SIDE, FROM INDIAN MEDIA. - IT APPEARS THAT THEY WEREN THE - PROCESS OF DE-ESCALAT - IOTEESNS NOTEDAV, SINCE - EARLY MAY, AND IN THIS PROCESS

- CAME TO BLOWS.NG, SOMEHOW THINGS - >> Reporter: WE'RE HEARING - REPORTS OF AT LEAST 20 INDIAN - TROOPS THAT HAVEE BEEN KID. - NO OFFICIAL CONFIRMATION FROM - THE CHINESE SIDE. - BUT ALSO REPORTEDLY THAT THE - CHINESE USED ODS AND - STONES. - INTONT TO ASK YOU,LY ESCALATIONT - >> THAT'S OBVIOUSLY WHAT - EVERYONE IS WORRIED ABOUT. - WHEN YOU HAVE A STANDOFF O THIS - NATURE, WHEN YOU HAVE, AGAIN, - TWO NUCLEAR POWERS THAT HAVE A - BORDER STANDOFF, YOU ALWAYS - WORRY ABOUT WHAT THE POSSIBLE - PATH OF ESCALATION COULD B - NOW, AGAIN, IT HAS SEEMED THAT - THIS WAS GOING TO BE A PROCESS - OF DE-ESCALATING AFTER A SERIES - OF BOTH MILITARY AND DINMATIC - CONSULTATIONS. - >> Reporter: IMA OGINE THAT - AT ANY TIME. - SO WHAT WOULD YOU EXPECT TO - UNFOLD NEXT FROM A DIPLOMAPETIC - PEIVE? - >> RIGHT.

- I WOULD VERY MUCH HOPE THAT THEY - CONTINUE THE PROCESS OF - DEESCALATION. - BUT I DON'T THINK WE SHOULD MAKE - ANY MISTAKE ABOUT THE FACT THATU - WHENEE SUDDENLY ALL OF A - ORE THAN FOUR A - A HALF DECADES TROOP FATALITIES - IN THIS WAY, IT DOES RAISE - CONCERNS. - SO I CAN'T IMAGINE THAT THERE'S - GOING TO BE ANY MORE SANGUINE - ATTITUDE IN NEW DELHI ABOUT - FURTHER DEESCALATION WITHOUT - SEEING AVERY SIGNIICANT - DEESCALATION FROM THE CHINESE - SIDE. - >> Reporter: THIS IS OF CRSE - WITH BOTH INDIA AND CHINA BUT - ESPECIALLY THE FORMER UNDER - TREMENDOUS PREBEURE RIGHT NOW - USE OF A PANDEMIC. - >> WELL, THERE IS A PANDEMIC. - THE INDIAN ECONOMY HAD BEE - SLOWING EVEN PRIOR TO THE - ONSLAUGHT OF THE PANDEMIC AND - E NEEDO O T D TUTWNIRHETHE - CORONAVIRUS SHUTDOWN, THE - ECONOMY HAS JUST HAD THE RUG - PULLED OUT FROM UNDER IT - THEY WERE LOOKING AT A TO - COASTLINE OF SOMETHING LIKE 45% - IN THE LAST QUARTEACCORDING TO - A GOLDMAN SACHS REPORT. - THIS IS A REAL CONCER --

- ALYSSA, DOES THE U.S. PLAY A - ROLE IN THE DEESCALATION PROCESS - BETWEEN THESE TWO MAJOR POWERS? - >> SOME OF YOUR VIEWERS MAY - REMEMBER THE PRESIDENT'S FAMOUS - TWEET VOLUNTEERING TO MEDIATE. - NEITHER INDIA NOR CHINA ARE - LOOKING FOR A MEDIATOR ON THIS - THEY HAVE THEIR OWN BILATERAL - HAANNEL, ALBEIT ONE THAT HASN'T - SUCCESS RESOLVING THEIR - BORDER DISPUTE ALL THESE YEARS, - BUT I DON'T THINK THERE IS PEA - REALNG. - I DO THINK THE UNITED STATES - SHOULD PLACE A PIRATE TO WATCH - IT CLOSELY, AND I DO THINK THE - UNITED STATES SHOULD SIGNAL THAT - TERRITORIAL ASSERTIVENESS, WE - ARE SEEING TERRITORIAL - ASSERTIVENESS ON CHINA'S PART - AROUND THE WHOLE REGION. - IT'S NOT AEPTABLE. - >> Reporter: ALYSSA AYRES WITH - THE COUNCIL ON FOREIGN - RELATIONS, THANKS SO MOR - JOINING US WITH YOUR EXPERTISE - IN THIS REGION. - >> THANK YOU. - THANKS, STEPHANIE. - >> Woodruff: TENSIONS BETWEEN - THE KOREAS ARE ON THE RISE

- TODAY. - NORTH KOREA BLEW UP THE INTE - KOREAN LIASON OFFICE, A BUILDING - NEAR THE BOARDER WITH SOUTH - KOREA. - THIS COMES AS NORTH KOREAN - RHETORIC HAS GROWN INCREASINGLY - HOSTILE. - FOREIGN AFFAIRS CORRESPONDENT - SCK SCHIFRIN HAS THE STORY. - ifrin: ON SOUTH KOREAN TV, - THREATENING-- THE N WERE - OFFICE, UP IN SMOKE, AS CAPTURED - BY A SOUTH KOREAN SURVEILLANCE - CAMERA, DESTROYED IN A SINGLE - EXPLOSION. - THE BUILDING OPENED IN 2018, A - SYMBOL OF NORTH-SOUTH - RECONCILIATION. - THAT YEAR NORTH KOREAN LEADER - PRESIDENT MOON JAE-IN HAD A RARE - RAPPROCHEMENT, AND A SITTING - ANKODE LREEAR R FOFI NORTH - IN THE BACKGROUND THAT DAY, KIM - YO JONG, KIM JONG UN'S SISTER. - BUT SINCE THE PROMISES MADE IN - RECONCILIATION, ANU.S.RN INTO

- IGNORED A VAGUE NEW YEAR'S - DEADLINE IMPOSED BY THE NORTH, - SHE'BECOME MORE PROMINENT. - AND NORTH KOREA HAS BECOME MORE - BELLIGERENT, CUTTING OFF - COMMUNICATION WITH THE SOUTHG - AND THREATEN ADVANCE ITS - LYCLEAR PROGRAM, AND DEPLOY - MILITARY TO RECEE- - MILITARIZED AREAS ALONG THE - BORDER. - AND FOR MORE ON THIS, I'M JOINED - BY JONGMIN KIM, THE SEOUL - AESPONDENT FOR NK NEWS US - WEB SITE FOCUSED ON THE KOREAN - PENINSULA. - WELCOME TO THE NEWS HOUR. - LET'S TALK ABOUT THE MOTIVATIONS - FOR WH PYONGYANG IS DOING. - THIS IS NORTH KOREA'S WRATH - TARGETED AT SEOUL? - IS IT TARGETED AT WASHINGTON OR - IS THERE ALSO AN ASPECT TO THIS - OF DOMESTIC CONSUMPTION? - >> I WOULD SAY THAT IT'S ALL - THREE. - THE DEAL DIDN'T HAPPEN BETWEEN - NORTH KOREA AND THE UNITED - STATES AND THE YEAR END DEADLINE - THAT NORTHOREA SET FOR ITSELF - IN WASHITON, IT JUST EXPIRED. - AND IT SEEMS THAT THE ANGER - RIDT NOW, IT'S TARGETED TOW - SOUTH KOREA BECAUSE FROM NORTH

- KOREA'S PERSPECTIVE, DESPITE ALL - THE GOODWILL GESTURES AND ALL - THE AGREEMENTS IN 2018 FROM - NORTH KOREANS POINT OF VIEW, - ANUTH KOREA DIDN'T DO THAT MUCH - DIDN'T HELP THAT MUCH AS A - MEDIATOR BETWEEN WASHINGTON AND - PYONGYANG. - THERE COULD BE DOMESTIC CONCERNS - AS WELL. - SATHE PARTY FOUNDING ANNIV - OF THE 75th ANNIVERSARY IN - OCTOBER IS COMING UP. - AND THE NORTH KOREANE HAS - VOWED THAT THEY WILL COMASUP - WITH THESENG ECONOMIC - ACHIEVEMENTS BY THEN. - BUT RIGHNOW, THEY DON'T HAVE - MUCH TO BOAST ABOUT TO THE - DOMESTIC PUBLIC RIGHT NOW. - THE STATEMENTS FROM RTH KOREA - IN RECENT DAYS WERE MADE BY VERY - HIGH LEVEL OFFICIALS SUCH AS KIM - YO JONG, WHO IS NORTH KOAN - LEADER KIM JONG UN'S SISTER. - IN MARCH, SHE DID START WRITING - THESE STATEMENTS UER HER - BUT THE DIFFERENCE RIGHT NOW, - SINCE THE FIRST WEEK OF JUNE, IS

- THAT HER STATEMENTS STARTED - COMING OUT IN A PARTY DAILY IN - NORTH KOREA, WHICH TAR - GETS ANCE. - WHICH MEANS THAT HER PROFILE IS - GOING UP IN THE DOMESTIC - SETTING. - >> Schifrin: THE OBVIOUS - QUESTION THEN IS, SHE BEING - GROOMED IN SOME WAY TO BECOME - MORE PROMINENT, TO MAYBE EVEN - TAKE OVER ONE DAY FROM KIM JONG - UN? - >> ALTHOUGH IT SEEMS THAT KIM - JONG UN SEEMS PRETTY HEALTHY AND - VERY MUCH ALIVE, IT SEEMS IT - DOES SEEM THAT KIM YOUNG'S - OMINENCE IN RECENT DAYS POINTS - TO HOW NORTH KOREAN LEADERSHIP - IS MAYBE PREPPING HER UP TO BE A - POWERFUL VOICE AS A, AS E OF - KOREA, WHICH IS A VERY IMPORTANT - INTH, A CORNERSTONE OF STATEHOOD - ORTH KOREA. - >> Schifrin: AT THIS POINT, IS - THE OVERALL EFFORT BETWEEN - PRESIDENT TRUMP AND NG IL,

- OBVIOUSLY FACILITATED BY SOUTH - KOREAN PRESIDENT MOON JAE IN, IS - THAT EFFORT EFFECTIVELY DEAD? - >> I WOULDN'T SAY IT'S ENTIRELY - DEAD, BUT I WOULD SAY THAT NOT - MUCH TIME IS LEFT NOW, WITH THE - U.S. UPCOMING PRESIDENTIAL - MOON JAE-IN TERM NOT LEFT MUCH, - AND WITH THE U.S. SIDE AND NORTH - NARROW DOWN THE GAP BETWEEN WHAT - THEY WANT FROM THE - DENUCLEARIZATION DEAL, IT SEEMS - THAT REALISTICALLY IT'S ALMOST - IMPOSSIBLE FOR THE THREE ACTORS - TO COME UP WITH A SOLUTION. - >> Schifrin: JONGMINRRIM, SEOUL, - COESPONDENT FOR NK NEWS. - THANK YOU VERY MUCH. - >> THANK YOU. - >> Woodruff: AS WE'VE SEEN, NO - PART OF THE WORLD HAS BEEN

- SPARED FROM THE EFCTS OF THE - CORONAVIRUS. - CTOPLE IN NEARLY EVERY COUNTRY - HAVE BEEN IN AND FALLEN - BRIOUSLY ILL. - AND AS WILLINGHAM REPORTS, - SOMETIMES EVEN THOSE WHO KNOW - VIRUSES MOST INTIMATELY FALL - VICTIM. - >> Brangham: DR. PETER PIOT HAS - BEEN CHASING VIRUS HIS ENTIRE - CAREER. - HE WAS AMONG THE TEAM THAT FIRST - DISCERED EBOLA.. - LATER, HE HELPED PROVE IT WAS - H.I.V., THE VIRUS THAT CAUSES - AIDS, THAT WAS KILLING PEOPLE IN - AFCA. - AND FOR TWO DECADES, HE LED TWO - OF THE BIGGEST GBAL EFFORTS TO - FIGHT H.I.V./AIDS. - BUT THIS MARCH, THE 71 YEAOLD - PIOT GOT CORONAVIRUS. - HE'S NOT SURE HOW HE WAS - INFECTED, BUT HE HAD A TERRIBLE, - PAINFUL STRETCH FIGHTING COVID- - 19. - I SPOKE WITH HIM RECENTLY FROM - HIS HOME IN LONDON, ENGLAND. - PETER PIOT, WELCOME BACK TO THE - NEWSHOUR - VERY GOOD TO SEE YOU. - >> GOOD TO SEE YOU. - >> Brangham: CAN YOU JUST TELL - US A LITTLE BIT ABOUT YOUR - EXPERIENCE SUFFERING WITH COVID- - 19?

- >> WELL, AFTER SPENDING MOST OF - O ADULT LIFE FIGHTING VIRUSES, - FROM EBOLARTICULARLY - H.I.V., A VIRUS GOT ME. - AND ON THE 19th OF MARCH, I CAME - H WN REALLY PRETTY... WITHIN A - FEW HOURS, WRY SEVERE - HIADACHE, SPLITTING HEADACHE, - FEVER, MY ALLERGIES AND MY - RESCLES, EVERYTHING ACHED. - AND I GOLY, REALLY - EXHAUSTED. - ITD FOR SEVEN DAYS, I WAS IN THE - HOSPITALOXYGEN. - AND UNTIL IT WAS AT THE LEVEL - THAT, YOU KNOWI COULD GO BACK - HOME. - AND THINGS CONTINUED TO IMPROVE. - AND I HAD ALSO BAC - PNEUMONIA. - I WAS TREATED FOR THAT. - BUI WAS STILL COMPLETELY - KNOCKED OUT, YOU KNOW. - IT'S REALLY AS IF YOU'RE H BY - A TRUCK OR SORT OF BUS. - AND THEN SUDDENLY, GRADUALLY, I - STARTED EXPERIENCING SHORTNESS - OF BREATH. - AND THEN I WENT TO THE HOSPITAL - AGAIN.

- AND THEY DIAGNOSED ME WITH A - POST-COVID... WELL, A PNEUMONIA - THAT'S THE RESULT OF, NOT OF THE - VIRUS DIRECTLY, BUT OF THE - INFLAMMATORY REACTION. - AND ONE OF THE THINGS I DIDN'T - KNOW IS THAT IT CAN BE SO - CHRONIC. - BUT PEOPLE HAVE KIDNEY PROBLEMS. - PEOPLE HAVE CHRONIC LUNG - PROBLEMS. - >> Brangham: THINGS THAT WILL - LAST FOR THE REST OF YOUR LIFE. - >> YEAH, IT COULD BE, - AND SO WE NEED TO PLAN FOR THAT - AS WELL, WHILE, OFOURSE, - TRYING TO DO EVERYTHING TO STOP - THIS VIRUS FROM SPREADING. - >> Brangham: I'M CURIOUS-- AS - SOMEONE, AS YOU WERE DESCRIBING, - ESO HAS FOUGHT AGAINST VIR - YOUR ENTIRE CAREER AND STUDIED - Y W THEY MUTATE, HOW THEY - REPLICATE, HOW TW THEY - TRANSMIT FROM PERSON TO PERSON, - WAS THERE A POINT IN YOUR OWN - BELNESS WHERE YOU MOVED FROM - G YOU, THE SCIENTIST TO YOU, - THE PATIENT? - >> YES - ROE MOMENT I WENT TO THE - EMERGENC AND I, YOU KNOW, - I SAW MY CHEST X-RAY, CLEARLY - PNEUMONIA, BACTERIAL PNEUMONIA,

- MY OXYGEN SATURATION. - AND SO I SWITCHED FROM THE - DOCTOR, FROM THE SCIENTIST/THE - DOCTOR TO THE PATIENT. - YOU KNOW, YOUR WORLD, YOU KNOW, - SHRIS COMPLETELY. - YOU KNOW, YOU THINK - BREATHING. - WILL I GET OUT OF HERE? - T W WILL I GET OUT OF HERE? - I DON'T WANT TO THE - VENTILATOR. - I WAS THINKING... MY WIFE, M - CHILDREN. - YEAH. - IT WAS A REALLY, REALLY - DIFFERENT EXPERIENCE FOR ME. - >> Brangham: YOU SAID EARLIER - THAT THE VIRUS "GOT YOU." - AND I KNOW IN ANOTHER INTERVIEW - YOU DESCRIBED THIS AS THE VIRUS - GETTING REVENGE FOR ALL OF THE - LABORS YOU'VE DONE TO PUSH BACK - ON VIRUSES ALL OVER THE WORLD. - DO YOU SEE IT... I MEAN, I - UNDERSTAND THAT'S A METAPHOR, - T T DO YOU SEE IT THAT WAY? - DO YOU SEEAT IT FINALLY... - A VIRUS FINALLY CAUGHT UP WITH - YOU? - >> YEA - I THOUGHT THAT MAYBE BECAUSE OF - THE FACT THAT I'D FACED SO MANY - I WAS, YOU KNOW... I.COULDN'T

- GET - I WAS, YOU KNOW, I WAS KIND OF - INVINCIBLE. - NORMALLY YOU FEEL LIKE THAT WHEN - YSU'RE 27. - I ALRIED TO STAY, EVEN IN - THE SADDEST MOMENTS, TO FIND A - BIT OF HUMOR AND SATIRE AND, YOU - KNOW, ENJOY IT. - I LIKE THE FACT I LOST SEVEN - KILOS AND I SAID, ¡THAT'S THAT'S - XESILVER LINING, BECAUSE WITH - ALL MYISE, I NEVER GOT MY - B.M.I. TO WITHIN NORMAL RANGE. - AND NOW I'M THERE. - >> Brangham: THE COVID DIET - PLAN-- I DON'T KNOW IF THAT'S - GOING TO TAKE OFF. - >> I'M NOT SUGGESTING IT. - ALTHOUGH I WAS CAREFUL ALREADY - BEFORE, I, YOU KNOW, WE HAD A - LOCKDOWN, I STARTED WORKING - REMOTELY. - I WOULDN'T SHAKE HANDS, I WOULD - KEEP SOME DISTANCE. - BUT OBVIOUSLY IT WASNOUGH. - >> Brangham: IN MUCH OF YOUR - CAREER AT UNAIDS, YOU LKED A - LOT ABOUT, AND WRESTLED A LOT, - WITH BALANCING THE COMPETING - INTERESTS SOMETIMES OF SCIENCE - AND POLITICS AND ECONOMICS, AND - WE'VE CERTAINLY SEEN THAT BEING - A STRUGGLE HERE, WITH PUBLIC - HEALTH OFFICIALS URGING - LOCKDOWNS AND THE ECONOMIC AND - POLITICAL PRESSURE TO SAY, ¡NO, - YOU'RE STRANGLING OUR ECONY.

- WE HAVE TO REOPEN.' - DO YOU THINK THAT WE HAVE STRUCK - THE RIGHT BALANCE THUS FAR IN - THIS PANDEMIC? - >> IT'S THE REALITY OF LIFE, OF - EVERYTHING, THIS TRADE OFF. - AND IT'S COME TO VERY EXTREME - DIMENSIONS WITH COVID-19, - BECAUSE WE KNOW THAT THE VIRUS - IS STILL THERE. - AND IF WE RELAX PUBLIC HEALTH - MEASURES, WE WILL NEARLY - GUARANTEE... HAVE A, YOU KNOW, A - SECOND WAVE AND A THIRWAVE OF - OUTBREAKS. - SO WE NEED TO APPROACH IT, I - THINK, AS A... YOU KNOW, RISK - MANAGEMENT. - BECAUSE WE CAN'T CLOSE SOCIETY - D VER BECAUSE WE WOULD ALL GET - SO POOR ERE WILL BE - NOTHING TO FIGHT THE EPIDEMIC - WITH.D, - ON THE OTHER HF THIS - EPIDEMIC IS NOT UNDER CONTROL, - WE SIMPLY CAN'T RESTE - ECONOMY AT FULL SPEED. - BUSO, AS SOCIETIES WE WILL - HAVE TO LEARN COW TO LIVE WITH - D-19 AND WITH A CERTAIN RISK - THAT WE ACCEPT OR NOT.

- I MEAN, IT'S NOT AS EXTREME AS - YOU KNOW, WE AEPT THAT X - PEOPLE A YEAR DIE IN CAR - ACCIDENTS. - WE'RE NOT GOING TO STOP DRIVING - HOWEVER, THE PROBLEM WITH THE - COVID-19 IS THAT IF WE DON'T - BRING IT REALLY UNDER CONTROL - D MAKE, FOR EXAMPLE, - HOSPITALS, HEALTH CARE SETTINGS - SAFE, THAT'S GONNA UNDERMINE A - LOT OF OTHER THINGS. - SO WE NEED TO PUT OUR EFFORTS - THERE WHERE THE EPIDEMIC IS. - >> Brangham: ALL RIGHT, PETER - PIOT, VERY NICE TO SEE YOU - UPRIGHT AND HEALTHY AGAIN. T - HANK YOU VERY, VERY MUCH FOR - YOUR TIME. - >> THANK YOU, WILLIAM, THANK - YOU. - >> Woodruff: FINALLY TONIGHT, - SIVE-TIME GRAMMY AWARD-WINNING - ER/SONGWRITER MARY CHAPIN - WRPENTER IS THE ONLY ARTIST TO - HA FOUR CONSECUTIVE GRAMMY

- AWARDS FOR BEST FEMALE COUNTRY - VOCAL PERFORMANCE. - SHE HAS SOLD MORE THAN 15 - MILLION RECORDS, WITH A NEW - ALBUM COMING OUT THIER. - SHE'S ALSO BEEN ATTRACTING - MILLIONS ON SOCIAL MEDIA DURING - THE PANDEMIC WITH A L - SERIES. - AMNA NAWAZ CAUGHT UP WITH HER - RECENTLY ABOUT THESE DIFFICULT - TIMEG. AND HER RESPONSE IN SON - IT'S PART OF OUR ONGOING ARTS - AND CULTURSERIES, CANVAS. - >> Nawaz: IT'S THIS KIND OF - CASUAL INTERACTION THAT'S - ATTRACTED A LEGION OF FANS, OLD - AND NEW, TO MARY CHAPIN - NLRPENTER'S "SONGS FROM HOME" - SERIES-- HERE MINI- - PERFORMANCES WHICH BEGAN EARLY - ON DURING THE PANDEMIC. - ♪ ♪ - ♪ ♪ - ♪ ♪ - ♪ ♪ - CARPENTER LIVES ON THIS FARM, - DEEP IN THE VIRGINIA - COUNTRYSIDE. - AND HAS TRADED CONCERT VENUES

- PACKED WITH THOUSANDS OF - CHEERING FANS FOR THE QUIET, - INTIMATE "SMALL STAGE" OF HER - KITCHEN, WHERE ANGUS THE DOG, - AND "WHITE KITTY" OFTEN ACT AS - THE AUDIENCE. - ♪ ♪ - SHE SHARED WITH US THE T - TRACK FROM HER 16th ALBUM COMING - OUT IN AUGUST TITLED: "THE DIRT - AND THE STARS." - ♪ ♪ - ♪ ♪ - ♪ ♪ - WHAT'S THAT BEEN LIKODFOR YOU TO - INE NEW MUSIC INTO THE - WORLD? - WHEN WE'RE ALL KIND OF CHANGING - CHANGED?G IN A WORLD THAT'S - DO SOMETHING TO BE A PRIITIVE - MUSIC NO MATTER WHAT SO WHY NOT - PUT THE RECORD OUT? - I DEFINITELY ASTILL SCRIBBLING - SONGS, WORKING ON THINGS, IDEAS - STILL COME TO ME. - OF COURSE, I'VE GOT LOT OF - TIME ON MY HANDS TO THINK AND TO - TRY TO FOLLOW THE MUSE. - ♪ ♪ - ♪ ♪

- >> Nawaz: THE RECIPE FOR "SONGS - FROM HOME" SOCIAL MEDIA SERIES - PLE: JUST CARPENTER, HER - ACOUSTIC GUITAR, AND A MOMENT OF - MUSIC TO REFLECT. - ♪ ♪ - ♪ ♪ - SOME OF THE MUSIC IS AN ESCAPE, - BUT I SHOULD MENTION YOU'VE - NEVER SHIED AWAY FROM THE TOUGH - STUFF THAT INCLUBUS ON THE NEW - THERE'S SOME POLITICAL STUFF IN - THERE. - I'M CURIOUS, AS A SONGWRITER AAS - AN ARTISA CREATOR, DO YOU - FEEL THAT THAT IS A - RESPONSIBILITY, THAT TO WEIGH IN - ON THOSE KINDS OF THINGS? - >> I'VE NEVER BEEN ONE OF THOSE - ARTISTS THAT I'VE NE - UNDERSTOOD WHY PEOPLE SAY, YOU - KNOW, SHUT UP AND SING OR YOU - SHOULDN'T PUT YOUR OWN FEELINGS - OUWARDS THE WORLD AND YOU - N'T, YOU KNOW, USE YOUR - POSITION AS A SOAPBOX AND I'VE - NEVER THOUGHT OF IT AS THAT. - I ALWAYS SEE IT AS I'M SIMPLY - SPEAKING TO MY OWN FEELINGS. - AND I ALWAYS HAVE AND I ALWAYS - T LL. - >> Nawaz: TO TD, CARPENTER - SPOKE DIRECTLY TO THE UNREST AND - ONGOING BLACK LIVES - MARCHES AROUND>>HE COUNTRY...

- HESE DIFFICULT DAYS, - DIFFICULT WEEKS, WORDS FAIL ME - SO I WILSING - ♪ IF I LISTEN AND I CANNOT HEAR - THE MUSIC - ♪ IF I TRY TO SWITHE OCEAN AND - CANNOT REACH THE SHORE - ♪ IF THE WORLD IS OFFERED LOVE - BUT DOESN'T USE IT - Nawaz: SHE HAD PREVIOUSLY - ADDRESSED HEAD ON HER DISCONTENT - WITH THE TRUMP ADMINISTRATION IN - A SONG LAST YEAR CALLED "OUR MAN - WALTER CRONKITE," ASSAILING - ATTACKS ON THE PRESS. - >> ♪ AND THE SIGHT OF CHILDREN - AND CAGES - ♪ WHILE DOG WHISTLES STINK UP - THE PLACE - ♪ EVERYTHING'S DIFFERENT - BUT NOTHING MUCH CHANGES - ♪ OUR MAN WALTER CRONKITE - AND WHAT WILL YOU MISS WHEN - I GREW UP IN A HOUSE WHERE EVERY - NIGHT, EVERY MONDAY THROUGH

- FRIDAY, MY PARENTS TURNED ON THE - TELEVISION AND WALTER CRONKITE - WAS IN OUR HOUSE. - THINKING, WHAT WOULD WALTER - CRONKITE THINK, THE MOST TRUSTED - ENEMY OF THE AMERIOPLE?ALLED AN - I DON'T THINK THAT WE WOULD - STAND FOR THAT.ER - >> Nawaz: ASWN JOURNEY HAS - NOW CHANGED-- SHE WOULD HAVE - BEEN ON TOUR WITH HER FRIEND AND - LONGTIME COLLABOINTOR SHAWN - COCROSS THE COUNTRY. - BUT, CARPENTER IS OPTIMISTIC - THATIME WILL RETURN. - >> I BELIEVE THAT WHEN IT IS - SAFE TO COME BACK AND GATHER - AGAIN AND HEAR LE MUSIC, THAT - IT WILL BE JUST AS IMPORTANT, IF - NOT MORE SO, TO EVERYO. - >> Nawaz: SO HOW ABOUT ANOTHER - SONG FROM HOME, WHAT DO YOU SAY? - >> ♪ TRY TO CONJURE JUST IN AN - ALL CERTAINTY, READY TO RUN - ♪ SUMMER NIGHT STICKS TO MY SKIN - AND BEERS FROM TO MY HEAD ON - ♪ HANDS OUT

- HE, YOU CAN'T USE YOUR - SO UNTILEXT TIME, YOU KNOW - WHAT TO DO, STAY WELL, STAY - STRONG, AND STAY MIGHTY. - >> Nawaz: FOR THE PBS NEWSHOUR, - I'M AMNA NAWAZ. - >> Woodruff: AND THAT'S THE - NEWSHOUR FOR TONIGHT - I'M JUDY WOODRUFF. - JOIN US ONLINE AND AGAIN HERE - TOMORROW EVENING. - FOR ALL OF US AT THE PBS - YOWSHOUR, THANK YOU, PLEASE STAY - SAFE, AND SESOON. - NEWSHOUR HAS BEEN ED BY: PBS - >> AND WITH THE ONGOING SUPPORT - OF THESE INSTITUTIONS

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- United States, - the vast Asian diaspora - is producing chefs - who are experts in the art - of the culinary maup. - This week, - we set out to explore - who are esome of these art - oFrom casual eateries, - serving Filipino, - American barbecue, - and Afrosian rice bowls. - To a fine dining restaurantnt - that'sducing - New Yorkers to Nikkei cuisine, - a melding oferuvian - and Japanese influences. - We also delve into the - lives of these adventurists - and award winning chef - On this episode of Lucky Chow. - (upbeat inspiring music)