thumbnail of Agronsky At Large; An Interview with Muhammad Ali
Transcript
Hide -
This transcript was received from a third party and/or generated by a computer. Its accuracy has not been verified. If this transcript has significant errors that should be corrected, let us know, so we can add it to FIX IT+.
major funding for this program is provided by public television stations additional support provided by the european commission washington and the german marshall fund of the united states a memorial to the marshall plan from houston texas mr greenstein talks with the biggest of them all ali raises the libya jim and our values that these two youngsters sparring the ring but there come from families literally their twelve years old they're learning a box and they're getting the same way that another or twelve year old dunford began another sit in louisville kentucky twenty two years ago that twelve year olds a name was taxes but he changed his name to mohammad ali the followers way up the slippery as the ladder of the world become what it is today the heavyweight boxing champion of the world greatest
fighter of all watching those hit the railing back to twelve years old black louisville kentucky there is a lot that those two voices last night just dominating the nomadic be no felons should pass the news pages alongside jenkins came to me just the rescuing along and speeding highest intelligence moves financial times more openness of fame makes you feel calm so far subsequent to be recognized as the best of times and the last installment of take it
won't take me back there when you're twelve fourteen in the ghetto you think things were tougher for your favorite folk hero like a daily pill are things any better or less recognizable which i really don't know you can come soon tulsa came on the condition of a lot of the people saw i think there are things klingel ray's car loans as watson church among from someplace we couldn't go on some say because i'm not used to being the conditions you know here in recent years ago
you appeared before the local level that you're trying to appear like a lawyer option so looking back on that you feel in your head that having an idea that i had time to allow for three factors leading the fifteen months with the new album we have just the thing what happened the first time that i would do that when they would say something a bit
surprising item and one of the first time that i had the second chance that is america's is the distiller at what my life things about my life you know of the greatest writers in the world couldn't just knock on the two time champ to international behavior that were lost gloves and fifty player on the main suspects in last year's first major fight won the last two i lost the first one as to the joy of films i mean anything is asking the perfect prom our problems have been taking the best interests of
the industry say the record championships so let's look at the record unlike any record in the light of those who have a very deep feeling it manifests of the many unknowns about position of blacks in this country and yet curiously you've never been at yourself a part of the activists like writing stand aside and do the same really means they have been part of the mainline civil rights movement not only on one anticipated a limit on his very large scale was you talk about small all see that whenever there's a war you have say in vietnam on one american far longer than
one thought was you know one fall on the ship was a spouse the dissenters made and they all had different approaches when he's over eighteen force integration saw the movie politics aside the movie vincent guns or saw the movie be separated the solid so that means represent all people like and why i will hurt nevada i'm not aware of another democrat and not there's another side of you know diplomatic and i was in a new struggle and the first black athlete who can then twenty million dollars a year that's not controlled by nobody liked in his to this world and the first black man in his chin sports entertainment other elijah muhammad tonight malcolm x was an entertainment lawyer and the first black
man who television show jesus and be free to say anything say nothing of thinking about a family so i saw it the thing that is taking things all i'm saying that in mali and in the struggle and the fight for you and those that ended up a tree which means a lot of march on a small island prisoners faces the small opposition from eu when they become big thousand prisoners they've gotten the top things that obama couldn't see it differently than trump not only people at most churches became the questions that i'm free arabs in the play
i'm doing now a sumo and the morocco on the cd i mean if congress use and about richard iannuzzi kinetic king of azerbaijan can't make things happen who came into politics and you may not have ended well lyndon johnson made things happen it's not my job all along rodney explains how and you know i'll allow him because of trouble with a muslim is anderson was troubled distressed babies turned corners allow fighting the car and nobody in the world and then his mentor and run record and his own wishes of lives in his unit level having trouble so i'm not trying to make things happen if i don't make people being run by itzhak and help poor people with pakistan the movie airplane engine where are all the entertainers of watch him on the back people watching the show and maybe not
scared to speak up because of positions seem to get us all make happen was to make demands change be an example that things happen in politics are better assistance are no jobs this is physical it was sung in the god that there's a heaven and they'll follow make things happen like that so this is the president's small utopias down the road we live here it matters because the side of montana to sell businesses use of nice about ten years old and up and said many houses for fifty years to july and time has been spent twelve years for eight hours a day for years or question an appalling trauma onto his drum in
an above the television came on to that so few fifty five voted to make time to get children time getting deals great time making the big dollop of the couch cushions he says life is too short for me to be in politics levine was looking at the levity to lots and lots of more like a community colleges in the pocket i could not be imported to trade manage your car company like thirty more years i'll be sixty five and i'm not advising interrogators and asleep and i travel and i don't like saying that some have about eighteen years that's the most important thing on the nineteen years is the demand spread not forget man forget man's love of the departed not follow got to somehow prompt teach people about politics in america only son was eleven as planned the victim was right you get the most amount of expertise and education in our country don't do
something about it by hatter government know that the government has become the better government for you so you don't care about being president is president of the united states and the man wanted to be president he died they both came to the support today the president and the white house of the town's and so for calm in it as was along at seven in the senate that's awesome because i have to follow the us and the world knows the books it's either picking a lot of things that can be the argument but i think that there is a normal politics has wound was popular islam the wealthiest that's wandered nice looking into it was that the whole mobilize know like gracious
maybe the greatest anyway but there is also and with things blacks in this country been the voting rights act singing every open now a boston native and even then somehow and let him a man is that in the rose garden fragrant i don't say they are going to say that's the way you make things happen unfortunately interns ran national presidents of amos begins it was the biggest bona playing politics and president did the combative and literally see people's megan let me scare the robins tree long enough to see this valley have the trouble of the day i'm going to fight for god i'm going to talk about the supreme being recruited the sun moon was past time cannot affect a change of
circumstances sons and services there's a new space according to you and the coverage again augustus isn't the problem right now the managers and the government here and so in june election and tell me that the man of utah you just want to tell me you tell me that as wisely educators there is the god of thing that people like yourself became elijah muhammad became the most of the changes in illinois so what do you know about that you talking about on this valentine's day politically and we all about
our very existence depends on his wheel your food you name your head to drive you in other meaning of the polish president they have always been a little bit and talk about the supreme being released his own issues his injunction you a nice yummy let me in produced with oh he's also why did you give us about the way that their thoughts and you not only are they don't believe in an issue that has got to be funny i like it but the problems of black people and masonry people possibly get away with in the slate money is unlikely now that you've won the himalaya they had a million unless you tell me as many people do you really like
there were some rest of the day until the memories and got his crazy you're grieving you believe a nixon apologist yeah i mean it's mainly the sun and was the union made i it it i'm not saying any sense that one should not believe in god history teaches us experienced fetus is alive he says life that we do live in this world as you pointed out we don't know if there were long to have to do something inside the framework in which human try to make things that you tell them and that we have to do something inside the framework now here in the us about a less relevant teaching people that got rid of god was better than teaching people look up who was that teaching people about prostitution adult novels and sales respect our lives into for sale the summertime of religion politics is good and less integration but possible in some zombie
this is not a vote at the same time put that before the vote hope to dictate that the president then they've been treated that allowed to provide diversity that use medicine to focus on the white house the white house has not got to do it this way and this week talking about some very very pragmatic the masses of people watching the show now is john brennan down and say he's right he's right i commute i think the complaint that can command same politics they're saying that the
people who voted for cotton massive black it was one hundred and ninety one says in fact the world's first goal of the people and the poor people and the like people who lost esteem poor people hard in his fifties thousand and drop their weapons how to motivate and this is those people on the mainland series on china's own yet become a religion to get this that you think blacks here are only online some even pollinate i mean isn't it as a whole lot of that my whole life if it's just like smoking on his own right in the one that they think will do right but not last as proving out about one of his bones for him as he stares as the nation's hobby lobby president and the president as they i
mean in my purse and forget the carlow the commandos were really do something the country and we lobbied president if the people get the call to get the prejudice another mom iran must now go beyond saying that the stigma that an agreement i mean printing that will make me even that preventive medicine at the polo in the small man a man so still argues that it is a religion there's bb unlike begun another two years of playing my first next week and another anomaly get most of the media not politics save money money money is the means of exchange money money money online money as a designer gives amanda's there wasn't saleable as they get going to sell on the bottom of it an emerging things
hospitals like to be oh i'll help people the more money you got to move out of the event say i would be on my name came to me you know i'll be like a lot of steam on our neighbor the non politician after the politicians call me some of those customers presidents are really well leisure to health in beirut office that same the lab is college man
i present a subconscious i'm invited to the syria turkey morocco pakistan and are selling our own to meet the same people are caught up would be honored to me on right now so that the mayor's office would make me small people like the coffee in theory and that you know some people like there's a muscle irrigators have not only of him as a muslim in a religious sense but in the political sense and wilson's its most literal sense i mean sometimes man don't call me
that i want this regime to give people a great sense of the cross and so i just can tell us to pay people from his generation here you don't tell me when we showed the power of allies out there really just me and you know me and you know you're talking you know top boxes you could miss president caught up the other questions you can get some more serious question is not so much about how about his batman about so of a nation calls
to get the venus well they talk to me like i'm the president of the jewish synagogues and seventy i say well you know we didn't see that he just in that we not talking about lots of soul if i do what i did and that's the uk in the deposition people here would think that becoming the heavyweight champion joe frazier signature giants was having the chance to roll it isn't mr cella is a job no bats in the history of
that perhaps it was as the prices is a song it ain't there now if i can africa manila philippines know take your guitar erin saiz and their unborn the country is not looking to people is never fall apart is because our ballots and made them know i'm mentioning the name mohamed is the most common in the mainland that it represented in his native on the boxes and second want interviews and different items strewn about the fosters can just play stella baptists are democrat i would be in iran i wouldn't be in this idea i would be an island in malaysia only in these countries so their religion is i'm not popular but so because among the eugene oregon that
well and there was an ad that we just had a major challenge on religious something was this is roosevelt's and strains they all have different names but they all contain not for some bosnian muslims have different names and they all contain truth expressed in different funds and different and sarin is good catholic nun named catherine banning that is scientists previously thought so much of his life but he just didn't change but they say they need it right when you just wouldn't are playing them as a metaphor for people who have children in new jersey after selling a church that they had the people who follow their religion is wrong people wilson's nose was us mr schulman well you know
we're doing this together this one was what you said to me what is as soon as you have the money unions say and not take the time that a normal cells don't make them feminine attendant ladies at them assail the poem was one additional show and i'm mario style which appraisals she along with that a lot we got a grassy at large for watergate special
prosecutor leon jaworski this program was produced by wnet a which is solely responsible for its content major funding was provided by public television stations additional support provided by the european commission washington and the german marshall fund of the united states a memorial to the marshall plan you're around noon need for that guy major funding for this program is provided by public television stations additional
support is provided by the delegation of the commission of the european communities and the german marshall fund of the united states a memorial to the marshall plan large talks with george kennan the story this is the home in princeton new jersey george get america's foremost our russia which again has been us ambassador to russia and yugoslavia is the author of a policy of containment of the soviet union is still regarded as the architect of the cold war for many years and has been a professor of what might be called the most distinguished american think tank the institute for advanced studies year and princeton is advised many presidents on foreign policy and as this country stands and now on the threshold of a new
administration we've come here to his own prince and asked how he sees the state of the world and won a new american president can do to make it better but tennant i think you were uniquely qualified to deal with the initiative the soviet leader leonid brezhnev who recently said that carter need not fear so eugene were subjected to any test a spike in will never go out of his way to avoid any crisis with the knife that you believe oh yes i think there's no reason to doubt that he i don't think he would have said that unless he had meant to follow along well you know there's a truce they apparently kissinger probably doesn't believe when he returned from his last trip to nato at the beginning of the
week he said that the russians weren't everyone morning suggestion was late bradley byrne was kissinger that it was insane to progression that diploma carter that you wouldn't want to press it was or that the paper they didn't say specifically that it was henry kissinger who made this observation but certainly for some senior person in his entourage or cell phones in a suit let it out and i couldn't agree with that call i think it's unfortunate to take most britons remarks that way everybody knows abroad that this period between our elections and the assumption of office by a new president is one of uncertainty and semi paralysis in disarray and our foreign policy and i think the inspiration meant this as a as a conciliatory gesture and as indicating that he would hold up his options open for productive
and useful exchanges with the with the carter administration inherits mistakenly rejected a city brad occasionally know why they should take this sort of thing on the points of our penance i don't understand we we should be pleased this didn't concern there was here that the word was used somewhere in that story that david said with empty wooden forces to any confrontation i don't think those were the word used he simply meant that there would be no initiatives from the soviet side which would create sharpened difficult problems for the houses in this country in this uncertain terrible i welcome that and i think we should make the best of what favorable signs we can get an international polarizing leads me to stay with the charity vince russo to the other observations we've made that very question that this country should be where according to new york times columnist
with the russians will be watching his first moves carefully the united states has moved quickly to warn the russians if they drop a metal in the room the gym situation where this tool i must say i fail to understand for two reasons and the first place we have recently involved ourselves quite actively in the rhodesian situation and i don't think that we can really expect to have a double standard applied our way down the line to the soviet union and ourselves but secondly this whole question of soviet interference in third or in the third world and among the underdeveloped countries and supporting the so called anti imperialist movement it was an era of soviet policy where i would not have expected that we could make great dirt changes in this time i think if anybody supposed that what was called a top note that the russians were going to stop doing this sort of thing stopped supporting those factions they were quite wrong about this the russians are on the spot these are the the
chinese and the russians have to show themselves from their standpoint they have to show themselves of principled marxists or not yielding and falling down playing dead before counter pressures all over the world have to give them the parents of supporting the left wing the marxist factions in these companies and how should we see or so we react vigorous that the secretary of state has said that we are now committed to majority rule for dessert well there are number of problems involving workers that i personally don't know what people mean when they talk about majority rule as far as i can see they mean ruled by and also the current regime or a dictator who happens to be an african another one which is a different thing in my opinion the majority rule
whether we should support those tendencies i think personally that we should be very restrained in any advice we give to people in southern africa about what they ought to do what you say that because any advice would you give them as apt to turn out disastrously for as far as a roadie and whites are concerned and the south african whites these people it seems to me have made their bed and they have to lie and again i wouldn't really approve of this country trying out to tell him what to do i don't think we have answers to their problems and very dangerous to go to in giving advice to people and you don't have the answer you think it reflects in any way our own domestic political concerns but i have no doubt that it does and this of course as you probably know something against which others reacted very sharply for many years and that is the bending of american foreign policy to for domestic political purposes i think this is an abuse of the interest of our people as a whole and it's one of the
worst habits that we have it's an abuse of our foreign relations for the purposes of individual groups americans here i just don't believe in it or at least this would stop its move african little piece with the secretary of state is directly quoted as saying that the middle east is ripe for sale but he says this doesn't mean a geneva conference is the best solution sense and this is a significant point such a conference in bali give the soviet union a free invitation to get involved in an area where it has been steadily losing in law this frightens me a little bit with you we haven't liked everything that there are russians abandon the middle east in recent years in fact i thought some years ago their cause it was extremely dangerous and extreme and bared their date that for and that was when in the period after nineteen fifty five when they were staring up the
egyptians and the syrians and all these other things israel but there's an area which is closer mart are closer to their borders than it is to our own it's an area in which they can hire to help but have interests and the implications of that statement that you just read are that we hope to exclude them totally for many and in the affairs of his area and then we hope that we get satisfactory solution from our standpoint of the situation that i don't think this is fairly realistic and i'm not at all sure where it seems to me it's many years since we really talked about the name problems of the middle east with the russians and i'm not sure that if we talk of them today we could've perhaps arrive at some at least limited media the mind you'd think that we could we could arrive into a lasting peace settlement that
would indeed exclude the russian know i don't i think there would always be a great an element of instability there and i'm not convinced you say that the russian purposes under a goal in the middle east today i'll only different from our own money incidentally today as you know will see i'm sure see as clearly as i do yeah i'm not been a terribly good position to take the lead in solving the problems of the middle east they are very dependent on arab oil constitutes a limit on our freedom of action of the most dangerous sort and until we can we can free ourselves nap i think we're going to be in a very bad position to take the lead in solving problems and what would you suggest as an american initiative really going to the middle east to the soviet union what could the president elect do that would improve the prospects for getting along with the sole its prospects for these gentlemen prepare well first of all because i attach great
importance of his i think he should be more smartly to correctly and mormons certainly by the last administration and permitting our dependence on imported oil than honorable or particularly to grow and how well there are a whole rather a whole list of things that can be done conservation first of all the development of alternative sources of energy like coal and all of the others were job to which we've given nowhere near the research effort that we gave to the development of nuclear weapons and solar energy exactly all these things i should be of much greater greater research effort but having done that then i think you should try to do enter into a reasonable communication with the soviet government on the problems of middle east report i think you learn better lessons in the last oh ten to fifteen years and crash were both today mature enough and realistic enough to realize that
most is gonna make great gains out of that area by the attempt to exclude the other entirely in that you wouldn't have been removed a little piece of the film the us soviet relationship in terms of presenting an alleyway a possibility of confrontation exactly i don't fancy that either of us two great powers the russians ourselves either independently or together and solve the problems of the middle east or to the people of that area can do it but we can play either helpful or an unhelpful party and a much more helpful won if we have sung more understanding between ourselves and i'd like to see at least the possibilities of that probe before we assume that what we have to do is to get the russians out of there and keep them out of there forever let's move from the israeli arab relationship only through the middle east to iran we are committed to giving they're selling the rings enormous amounts of weapons should we
continue with that we're the chief supplier weapons in the world if you what should we continue with that ten billion dollars this year and it seems to me absolutely crazy anyone who thinks that these things are going to be used for good purposes that he knows there is making a very risky decision you know we send these arms all over the world with no i think we know in whose hands they end up today and that this is useful but we don't know and whose hands it might be tomorrow and i think that this is an undesirable practice for the us to live within the case of iran it's it's quite met the quantities of arms were pulling in the hand i wouldn't just raise the question suppose the russians in the last two or three years had given several billion dollars worth of arms to the extra mexicans and had fought several tens of thousands of instructors semi military personnel in there to teach
the mexicans how to use these arms can you imagine the outcry that would've risen in this country i can't imagine that here well now you see this involves the principal as to whether we can ask the world to accept on the russians to accept a complete double standard for us and for russia and this is the question we can in the long run i don't think that more you know we can give them bad intentions and to other members of the good intention to expect that they will accept that we see this cuts right to the heart a lot of our practices that undermines our whole behavior in the arms race the people in washington the hard liners the people in the pentagon say or we cannot take account of russian intentions were going on that take account of their capabilities so that they want to do anything
nasty us forward which they have the capability of doing but on the other hand if you talk to the same people and say well show the russians be worried when we put these enormous arms and further they say or will they should know that our intentions are good the weekend again we can't have it both ways if people are in there for only going to deal with capabilities not vengeance think of we must look we've uncovered an least in the arms that we're talking about conventional arms that were providing iran that scary beyond that you've noted repeatedly in your memoir is very concerned that i was conceived i hear about the kind of world we could have for our children the kind of danger that faces is all in the united states and the soviet union or unable to do something to prevent non nuclear arms proliferation and chew through the salt talks are now going on to somehow cut down
on our own nuclear arms race between each other would you recommend that to the president elect first priority i think this is a dangerous in the extreme what's happening and then we are very guilty of the state at which it has arrived a daily guilty well we have missed opportunity after opportunity i think to withdraw curtail at least this proliferation of arms and also they were the development of these fantastic amount of overkill both the russians themselves now happily be a bit more specific you speak to limit the really expert knowledge we're not really in the military field that is perfectly adequate that the amounts are that the numbers of nuclear warheads now present in our arms and to some extent a lesser extent and the soviet arms are
fantastically beyond anything that could conceivably you be used for any good or constructive purpose in this world is just sheer nonsense i suppose we have twenty five to thirty thousand today warheads in the world are rethinking up my goodness gracious maybe we have seven thousand tactical nuclear weapons in europe alone i believe that the power of the weakest of those is three times the hiroshima bomb now what in the world are we think we're going to do it was seven thousand of these things i mean it didnt have ten or twenty of them would be enough to make a major catastrophe anywhere in the world this is this is an absolute fantasy he was nine recommended was that would you recommend to the president elect what could be done well in the first place i think that it i have no confidence in the continuation of this all parts of the sort that we've had in the past this whole business of bargaining chips will now we're going to get a better weapons and then we'll use this as a bargaining
chip and then we'll get them to a degree not to build this or that backfire says entering into the realm of total confusion it will take on the way and major gesture on both sides involving a great deal of unilateral restraint on both sides to get anywhere with this week a perfectly well for sale international pledge of goodwill we are going to get rich at once without any agreement with you an all of ten percent this unilaterally unilaterally but for goodness sake we have to act in a big way we have to dismantle this martin no one in the world including our finest statesman including myself or anybody you want a name for yourself no one is good enough wise enough steady enough to have control over that at the volume of explosives that now rests in the hands of this country where our
little people we have our good days are bad days we make mistakes and that goes with it for us as well as for the others and here we've encouraged this we're the ones who've taken them they were the ones were originally adopted the principal first few hours the russians the other day offered to get rid of it i don't know how in what good faith this was but it should've been explored instead of moonlight out the window i think that that those principles forced to use the lane at the heart of our mistakes for twenty five the years that you're referring to warsaw pact statement that they were retiring out for steve's now it was late when dr kissinger was at the nato meeting and we immediately rise up in our rap and contemptuously for the whole thing out the window and they go immediately without even having and didn't know any discussion with the russians about this proposal immediately says on more we wouldn't dream of accepting that couldn't accept it for i think this whole thing is terribly
ancel and this incident is one of our great problems and one of those will be one of the great problems are for the most part are if he wants to do anything about this is that we have got our allies walk into this to his woes ourselves we can't just act as a free agent with people with them first we're removing them would be easy to think that we have a real problem in that that our allies in western europe the native people in general feel that you must always have in reserve a nuclear weapon as an equalizer yes you know the western europeans have suffered and now for a decade under a conviction which no one apparently can drive out their minds the conviction that the russians are going to attack western europe and that tip if it were not of our nuclear weapons they would long since i've done it that this was all which so he was the common word deterred them from doing now the russians are not
perfect farmers are russian regime is also a complicated regime that has allowed people in there who are not our friends people whose intentions of them drops but nevertheless they are not mad and that's my own judgment i think sort of in the judgment of most people know them well that they are there's probably never been a time since nineteen forty eight when they have seriously contemplated or wished to carry out at an invasion of western europe they have trouble not the whole troubles with the area which they already control in eastern europe i don't think they want more i don't think this is a rational logical and yet the western european or leave it you can get a stop i must leave you back to the article that you signed as x in nineteen hundred and forty eight for foreign policy magazine which really offer a theory of containment which initiated if you like the cold war and which are major concern was always to face the russian to confront the russian
position of american and western strike to stop their possibly aggressive an expansionist intentions of view change your mind that much using the one hundred and eighty degrees in the blank well i would hate to be a person worded change his mind but i don't think it is that that much that article was written these things in a time of great instability in europe in the wake of world war one do remember it was actually nineteen forty seven forty eight you remember they've got a difficult wonder that was and how much uncertainty there was in europe nobody knew then whether the french and italian kindness would take over nobody knew whether berlin would survive at that time i think there was a real danger of a sort of a political collapse of western europe and i wanted to persuade people of home that we had to support we have to give insurance
and confidence that those people wanted to resist and political pressures i do not view it as a military problem it's always been interpreted the other way ever since tuesday there's an argument i've been asked a thousand times about this and all the young scholars the revisionist the date keep charging you having advocated us exactly the policies toward russia then and now forty which is we need not regard the russians any longer as committed to a policy of aggressive expansion is an end to the domination of communist domination of the world you know i was at a differentiated when you talk about people between what they theoretically think would be just dandy and what they really expect your chief in the near future i've often used the example of the business man who would love to make a million dollars be very happy if he could cover his bets for the next two
months now the soviet union remains committed surely ideologically through a kind of world but they live in the real world and the other they're real hopes and plans were there real actions have to be geared to the real possibilities they stand in a state of transition still from the great original ideological fervor of the learning period too the inheritance our regular normal report put it that way and i think they're much they're very far along on this island be too worried about the ideological challenge has been to two important and even today these questions of italian french times cards they're not the same kind of problems we were facing in nineteen forty seven you communist china's most powerful state
what we show for you put it that intrigues me with the chinese analyze this engineer had our number for several decades that they manipulate us were the greatest things americans very easily fall into they were thinking that they understand the chinese known and in a few of the chinese i have great suspicion that you're my colleague ship owners say that while people who said they understood russia that you were famous last words like drinking doesn't affect the land i think this is the more so with china and chinese are very different people from ourselves i have no disrespect for much of the problem men from around the world most intelligent people are imaginative a very talented and great people but i think there also they don't typically like foreigners i don't think they're terribly interested in us and i think they're
capable along with their great delicacy of behavior they're capable of great ruthlessness when you least expected of them i would view americans not be very careful i would ask you to put on your states and ask if you feel that american foreign policies insufficiently committed in recent years to concern for morality in principle this too is an old argument i have often been accused of advocating an immoral foreign policy because i didn't put more allergy and the international sense of the basis of that i think that our what we have to be concerned with much news to meet our own standards of morality and not try to apply them to the rest of the world you leave you know programs get large will take a holiday for the next two weeks
during january seven with special reports from the middle east this program was produced by wnet a which is solely responsible for its content major funding was provided by public television stations an additional support was provided by the delegation of the commission of the european communities and the german marshall fund of the united states a memorial to the marshall plan you only noon news
Please note: This content is only available at GBH and the Library of Congress, either due to copyright restrictions or because this content has not yet been reviewed for copyright or privacy issues. For information about on location research, click here.
Series
Agronsky At Large
Episode
An Interview with Muhammad Ali
Producing Organization
WETA-TV
Contributing Organization
The Walter J. Brown Media Archives & Peabody Awards Collection at the University of Georgia (Athens, Georgia)
AAPB ID
cpb-aacip-526-bz6154fv12
If you have more information about this item than what is given here, or if you have concerns about this record, we want to know! Contact us, indicating the AAPB ID (cpb-aacip-526-bz6154fv12).
Description
Episode Description
Agronsky interviews Muhammad Ali in a Texas gymnasium, where children box in the background. Ali discusses his early childhood in Louisville, Kentucky, and he talks about refusing to serve in the Vietnam War due to religious reasons and the effect that had on his life and career. He also discusses race relations in the country and his own form of activism through spreading religion and belief in God rather than politics. He also expresses his desire to help others and his future plans to be an evangelist.
Series Description
"'Agronsky At Large' is a weekly interview program on which public television correspondent Martin Agronsky meets one-on-one with a public figure of special interest and discusses their profession, their life and their particular insights into a variety of topics. The conversations are mostly taped on location in a setting conducive to relaxed participation by the guest. "The interviews presented demonstrate the range of Agronsky's subjects. In a Houston, Texas gymnasium he talks with Heavyweight Champion Muhammad Ali about the fighter's religion, his motivating forces and his future careers. They also discuss some of the champ's more flamboyant activities and penetrate beneath the noisy surface to the real Ali. "In a talk with the former Ambassador to the Soviet Union George Kennan, the topics covered range from the Cold War and Nuclear Disarmament to morality in foreign affairs. The conversation was held in Kennan's Princeton, New Jersey living room. "Producer/Director of the series is John D. Larkin. Executive Producers are Wallace Westfeldt and Christie Basham."--1976 Peabody Award entry form.
Broadcast Date
1976
Asset type
Episode
Media type
Moving Image
Duration
00:57:59
Credits
Associate Director: Deutsch, David
Associate Producer: Haase, David
Director: Larkin, John David
Guest: Ali, Muhammad
Host: Agronsky, Host
Producer: Larkin, John David
Producer: Westfeldt, Wallace
Producing Organization: WETA-TV
AAPB Contributor Holdings
The Walter J. Brown Media Archives & Peabody Awards Collection at the University of Georgia
Identifier: cpb-aacip-f94139b85d7 (Filename)
Format: U-matic
Generation: no_buffer
Duration: 0:28:42

Identifier: cpb-aacip-335791d02df (unknown)
Format: video/mp4
Generation: Proxy
Duration: 00:57:59
If you have a copy of this asset and would like us to add it to our catalog, please contact us.
Citations
Chicago: “Agronsky At Large; An Interview with Muhammad Ali,” 1976, The Walter J. Brown Media Archives & Peabody Awards Collection at the University of Georgia, American Archive of Public Broadcasting (GBH and the Library of Congress), Boston, MA and Washington, DC, accessed December 22, 2024, http://americanarchive.org/catalog/cpb-aacip-526-bz6154fv12.
MLA: “Agronsky At Large; An Interview with Muhammad Ali.” 1976. The Walter J. Brown Media Archives & Peabody Awards Collection at the University of Georgia, American Archive of Public Broadcasting (GBH and the Library of Congress), Boston, MA and Washington, DC. Web. December 22, 2024. <http://americanarchive.org/catalog/cpb-aacip-526-bz6154fv12>.
APA: Agronsky At Large; An Interview with Muhammad Ali. Boston, MA: The Walter J. Brown Media Archives & Peabody Awards Collection at the University of Georgia, American Archive of Public Broadcasting (GBH and the Library of Congress), Boston, MA and Washington, DC. Retrieved from http://americanarchive.org/catalog/cpb-aacip-526-bz6154fv12