The NewsHour With Jim Lehrer : WETA : September 7, 2009 7:00pm-8:00pm EDT; The NewsHour With Jim Lehrer

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>> Ifill: GOOD EVENING. I'M GW IFILL. ON THEEWSHOUR THIS LABOR DAY, OULEAD STORY: PRESIDENT OBAMA USES AN A.F.L.-C.O. PICNIC IN CINCINNA TO ADDRESS TWO CRITICAL IUES, HEALTH CARE AND THE ECONOMY. THEN, THOTHER NEWS OF THE DAY: TAKE AN IN-DEPTH LOOK AT TH CHANGING AMECAN WORKPLACE, AS PAUL SOLMAN TS A HUMAN FACE THUNEMPLOYMENT NUMBERS, AND JEFFREBROWN LOOKS AT THE LONG- TERM EFFECTS OF THE RESSION ON JOBS; JUDY WOODRUFF TALKS TO LITICAL REPORTERS DAN BALZ A HAYNES JOHNSON ON THEIR W BOOK ABOUT THE HISTORIC 2008 ELECTION; ANA SUMMER'S END PORT ON A BASEBALL CAMP THAT PROMOT HITTING BALLS, RUNNING BASES, AND RDING BOOKS. MAJOR FUNDING FOR THE NEWSHO WITH JIM LEHRER PROVIDED BY: ( HARD RK GUITAR RIFF PLAYING )
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>> Ill: PRESIDENT OBAMA HIT THE ROAD ON THIS LABORAY TO RENEW HIS IVE FOR HEALTH CARE REFORM. HE UD THE OCCASION TO SET THE STAGE FOR WHAT THE ADMINISTRATION IS TOUTING AS TURNG POINT SPEECH SET FOR LATER THIS WEE E PRESIDENT APPEARED NUMB-UPS AS HE GREETED A SUPPORTIVE CROWD AN AFL-CIO CNIC IN CINCINATTI.
>> IT'S GOOD TO BE BACK IN OHIO.
>> Ifill: SIKING A ME AGGRESSION HAVE TONE AFTER A TOUGAUGUST, MR. OBAMA USED TOY'S SPEECH TO SET THE STAGE FOR THE HEALTH CARE ADDRESS HE'S TO DELIVER ON WEDNESDA
>> WE HAVE NEV BEEN THIS CLOSE. 'VE NEVER HAD SUCHROAD REEMENT ON WH NEEDS TO BE DONE. AND BEUSE WE'REOLOSE TO REAL REFORM, SOME OF THE SPECIAL INTERESTS ARE DOING WHAT THEALWAYS DO WHICH IS JUST T TO SCARE THE HECK OUT OF PEOPLE. I'VE G A QUESTION FOR ALL THOSE FOLKS. WHAT ARE YOU GOING TDO? WHAT'S YOUR ANSWER? WHAT'S YOUR SOLUTION? ANYOU KNOW WHAT? THEY DON'T HAVE ONE. THEIANSWER IS TO DO NOTHING.
>> Ifill: WITHOUT GOING INTO DETAIL, THE PRIDENT DELIVERED A MESSA DESIGNED TO APPEAL T AMERICAN WHO ALADY HAVE COVERAG
>> I WANT AEALTH INSURANCE SYSTEM THAT RKS AS WELL F THE AMERICAN PEOPLE AS IT DOES FOR THE INSURAE INDUSTRY. THEY SHOULBE FREE TO MAKA OFIT. BUT TH ALSO HAVE TO BE FAIR SECURITY AND STABILITY F FOLKS WHO HAVE HEALTH INSURANCE, HELP FOR THOSE WHO DON'T. THE COVERAGE THEY NEED AT A PRICE THEY CAN AORD.
>> Ifill: E WEDNESDAY SPEECH WILL BE CLOSELY WTCHED FOR WH MR. OBAMA SAYS ABOU INCLUDG A GOVERNMENT-FUNDED PUBLIC OPTION. TODAY HE ENRSED THE IDEA AGAIN WITHOUT SAYING IF IT'S A DEALREAKER.
>> I SEEEFORM WHERE AMERICANS AND SMALL SINESSES THAT AREHUT OUT OF HEALTH INSURANCE TODAY WI BE ABLE TO PURCHASE VERAGE AT A PRICTHEY CAN AFFORD. I CONTINUE TO BELIEVE THAT A PUBLIC OPTIONWITHIN THAT SKET OF INRANCE CHOICES WILL HELP IMPROVE QUALITY AND ING DOWN COSTS.
>> Ifill: AND SPEAKNG TO DISTRESSED WORKERS AND JOB SEEKERS ON THIS LABOR DAY T PRESIDEN DEFENDED HIS RECOVERY PLAN EV AS THE BLESS RATE NEARS 10
>> FOR THE SECOND STRAIT MONTH,E LOST FEWER JOB THAN THE MONTH BEFORE. THE FEWEST JOBS THAT WE HAD LOST IA YEAR. SO MAKNO MISTAKE, WE'RE MOVING IN THE RIG DIRECTION.
>> Ifill: THE PRESIDENT ALSO NAMED RON BLOO A TOP MEMBER OF HIS AUTO TASK FORCE,O OVERSEE A POLICY IN THAT ARE THE PRESIDENT RETURNED TO WASHINGTON THIS AFTERNOON. CONGRESSETURNS TOMORROW FROM ITS AUGUST RECE WHEN THE HETH CARE DEBAT WILL RESUME IN EARNEST. IN OTHER NEWS TODA THERE WAS NO WORD ON WHOIGHT REPLACE A WHITE HOUSE ENVINMENTAL ADVISER WHO RESIGNEDARLY SUNDAY. VAN JONES CAME UNDERIRE FOR SIGNING A PETITION IN 04, SUGGESTING THE U. GOVERNMENT WAINVOLVED IN THE 9/11 ATTACKS. HE'D ALSO MADE VULR COMMENTS ABOUT PUBLICANS. A WHITHOUSE SPOKESMAN SAID JONES "UNDERSTOOD HEAS GOING TO GET IN THE WAY"F THE PRESIDT'S AGENDA. INFGHANISTAN, PRESIDENT HAMID KARZAI TOLD FRENCH NEWSPAPER E U.S. IS UNDERMINING HIM BECAUSE HE WON BE AN "AMERICAN PUPPET." HE ALSO SAID HE BELIEVES HWON LAST MONTH PRESIDENTIAL ELTION. BUT THERE WE NEW ACCOUNTS OF EXTENSIVE VO FRAUD. A SPOKESMAN R PRESIDENT OBAMA INSISTED T AFGHANS HAVE TO ADDRESS THE ACCUSAONS. PRESIDENT KARZAI ALSO SAID TAY A NATO A STRIKE LAST WEEK WAS A MAR "ERROR OF JUDGMENT." FRIDAY'S RAID TARGET FUEL TANKERS HIJACKED BY E TALIBAN. AFGHAN OFFIALS CLAIMED DOZENS OF CIVILNS WERE KILLED. GERMAN FORCEORDERED THE STRIKE. TODAY GERMANY CONCEDED IT'S LILY CIVILIANS WERE AMONG THOSE KILLED. THE U. MILITARY ALSO CAME UNDER CRITICISM FOR ALLEDLY STORMING A HOSPITAL INESTERN AFGHISTAN. THE INCIDENTAPPENED LAST WEESDAY IN WARDAK PROVINCE, ABOU40 MILES SOUTHWEST OF KABUL. A SWEDISH CHARITY SAID U.S. TROOPS CLAIMED THEY WEREOOKING FOR TALIBAINSURGENTS. >>HEY FORCED THEIR WAY INTO THE COMPOUND. THEY TIED THE HANDS OF FOUR OF OUR GUARDS AND ALSO TWO RELATIVES, TWO PATIENTS W WERE STANDING THERWITH THE GUARDS. THEY WENT INTO THE MAIN WA... INTO THE ME WARD AND THE MALE WARD AND FORCED THEIR WAY . THEY BKE DOWN THE DOS.
>> Ifi: U.S. MILITARY OFFICIS SAID THEY ARE INVESTIGATING THE CHARY'S CLAIMS. IRAQ, A SERIES OF ATTACKS KILLED AT LEAST 17 PPLE. THE WORST S A SUICIDE BOMBING AT A POLICE CHECKPOI IN THE WEST. THE R WAS PACKED WITH EXPLOSIVESHEN IT EXPLODED NEAR THE PROVINCIAL CAPITAL OF RAMADI. EIGHT IRAQIS WERKILLED, AND 16 WOUND. THE UNITED NATIONS' NUCLEA WATCHDOG IS WARNING TH THE SIATION INVOLVING IRAN'S NUCLEAPROGRAM HAS REACHED A "STALEMATE." MOHAMED EL BARADEI SD IRAN REMAINS VIOLATION OF INTERNATIONAL TREATIES IRAN HAS NOT DEFENDED ITS ENRICHNT-RELATED ACTIVITIES BUT ITS WORK ON T RELATE PROJECT ASEQUIRED BY THE SECURITYOUNCIL. NOR HAS IRAN IMPLEMENTED THE ADTIONAL PROCESSES. LIKEWISE,RAN HAS NOT COOPERATED WITH THEAGENCY IN CONNECTION WITH THE REMAINING ISSUES DAILED FULLY AND COMPLETELY I THEGENCY REPORTS.
>> Ifill: THE PRIDENT OF IRAN, MAHMOUD AHMADIJAD, INSISTED IR WILL NOT GIVE UP EFFORTS TO ENRICH URANIUM AND PRODU NUCLEAR FUEL.
>> FROM OUR POINT OF VIE IRAN'S NUCLEAR ISSUE IS OV. WE CONTINUE OUR WO WITHIN THE FRAMEWORK OF GLOBAL REGULATION AND IN CLOSE INTERACTION WITH THE TERNATIONAL ATOMIC ENERGY AGENCY. WE WIL NEVEREGOTIATE OVER VIOUS RIGHTS OF THE INIAN NAON.
>> Ifill: THE U.S. AND EUREAN ALLI HAVE GIVEN IRAN UNTIL THE END OF SEPTEMBERO AGREE TO NUCLEATALKS. AND STILL TO COME ON THE NEWSUR TONIGHT, THE BATTLE FOR AMERICA, AND LEARNG LIFE SKILLS. THAT FOLLOWSUR LABOR DAY LOOK AT THE BLEAK JOBARKET AND THE PRPECTS FOR IMPROVEMENT. ECOMICS CORRESPONDENT PAUL SOLMAN BEGINS WITH THIREPORT.
>> Repter: ALMOST15 MILLION AMERANS ARE OUT OF WORK. FIVE MILLION OF THEM FORALF A YEAR OR MORE. THE AVERAGE WORKWEEK AT 33 HOURS. UNCHANGED SIE APRIL AND LOWER THAN ANY TIME SINCE T DATA STARTED I 1964. SINCE LAST FALL WE'VE BEEN LOOKG AT THE NUMBERS, FACES AND THEMES OF THE GREAT RECESSION. SUCH AS THE JOBSS TESTING THLIMITS OF UNEMPLOYMENT INSURANCE. HOW LONG HAVE YOU BEEN OUT OF WORK?
>> IT'S BEEN A YEAR NOW.
>> Reporter: HOW LONG HA YOU BEEN OUT OFORK?
>> A YEAR, TWO YEAR
>> I'M OUTOVER AEAR NOW. MINE ES IN SEPTEMBER.
>> Reporter: T UNEMPLOYMENT YOU MEAN.
>> YES.
>> Rorter: MEN HAVE BEEN HIT HARDER THAN WOMEN. AFRICAN-AMERICANS AND HISPICS, HARDER THAN WHITES. BLACK UMPLOYMENT HAS BEEN IN THE DOUBLE DIGITS FOR MORE THAN A YEAR. FOMEN OVER 20 IT WAS BACK UPAST MONTH TO 17%. FOR THOSE, MORE TAN ONE IN THREE ARSTILL OUT OF WORK. WE SAW THE PROBLEM IN STRUGGLINGND ISOLATED EAST ST. LOUIS INHE SPRING.
>> IT'S ABOUTHO YOU KNOW. IFOU DON'T KNOW NOBODY, YORE NOT GETTING IN THERE. IF I CAN GET MINIMUM WA, I'D BE HAPPY. BUT THEREAREN'T ANYOBS FOR A 6-YEAR-OLD MAN. NOT IN THIS AREA THAT I CAN GET.
>> Reporter: SCE THE RESSION BEGAN, SOMEWOJOBS HAVE E MILLIOJOBS HAVE BEEN SH IN THE MANUCTURING SECTOR ALONE. IN ELKHART, INDIA, DUE TO STALLED V.A.SALES WLE FAMILIES WE UNEMPLOYED.
>> I'VE BEEN OUT OF WORK FOR OVER AEAR. >>eporter: OR AREOEFULLY DER A YEAR.
>> WHEN IT GETS BAD I'M DOWN TO FIVE HOURS A WEEK.
>> IOT A PART-TIME JOB WORKING FOR TLOUIS BAKEREES STOCNG BREAD. AT LEAST POPLE STILL NEED TO BUY BREAD.
>> I WENT THROUGH A STRETC FROM THANKSGIVG TO FEBRUARY I DIDN'T WORK ATLL. IT LOOKS NOW AT WEL PROBABLY BE GEING MOREIME OFF IN T FUTURE.
>> Reporte HE HAD JOB WH WE"k ARRANGED THIS INTERVIEW. BUT BY THEIME WE SET UP OUR MERA SHE HAD LOST IT.
>> THUDAY WAS MY LAST DAY.
>> Reporter: HER SBAND SAYS HIS FAITH KEEPS HIM GOING THOUGH HE LOST H JOB IN APRIL. LOOKING?
>> YEAH.
>> Reporr: FINDING ANYTHING.
>> NO, THERE'S NOTNG AROUND HERE. ERE'S NO JOBS.
>> THEY HAVE A DOLAR STORE RIGHT DOWN T ROAD HERE. PAY $6.50 AN HOUR. THEY'RE NOEVEN HIRING. THERE'S NOTHING OUT THERAT ALL.
>> Reporter: SINCEOUR INTERVIEW, E NEWFIELDDID GET HIRED AS SPOKESPEON FOR A GREEN ENERGY COMPANYHAT'S COME TO ELKHAR IN HOPES OF REVIVING THE TOWN. T IN AUGUST, ANOTHER 63,000 FAORY WORKERS LOST THEIR JOBS. E BLUEOLLARS HAVEN' BEEN THE ONLY FOL HAMMERED, O COURSE.
>> I HAVE TO GETACK T HA NEORKING.
>> Reporr: HERE'S A GROUP OF UNEMPLOYED ECUTIVES IN SUB URBAN CHICAGO THISUMMER.
>> IAVE BEEN OUT OF WORK SIE DECEMBER OF 2008. M A SENIOR FINANCIAL EXECUTE.
>> MY NAME ISJOHN. I'M A SENIOR AUTO EXECUTE FROM T BANKING INDUSY. I'VE BEEN IN TRANSITION SINCE JANUARY OF THIS YE.
>> I'M AN I.T.INFRASTCTURE PROFESSIONAL. I HAVE BEEN LOOKING SINC NUARY OF THIS YEAR.
>> MY NAME ARBARA. I'M A HUMAN ROURCE LEADER. I'VE BEEN TRANSITION NCE FEBRUARY 28.
>> Reporter: OVER 1.5 MILLION JOBS HAVE BEEN SED IN PROFESSIONAL AND BUSESS SERVICES SINCE THE START OF THE RECESSIO ANOTHER 22,000 IN AUGUST. HISTORICALLY THOSE JOBS INVARIABLY RETNED WITH OWTH. BUT NOT AYMORE, THE WHART SCHOOL'S SPOKESMAN TOLD U
>> A GENERATION A WHEN PEOPLE GOT LAID OFF, THE ASSUMPON WAS ALL LAY-OFFS WAS TEMPARY. THE U.S. GOVERNMENT DIDN'T EVEN BOTHER TRACKING PERMANENT JOB LOSS UNTIL THE MID '80s BECAUSEHE AUMPTION WAS YOU'D BE RECALLED AS SO AS BUSINESS COMES AFTER. AFTER TH '80s, THE LAY-OFFS ARE PERMANENT BECAUSE THERE'S NO EXPECTAON OF BEING CALLED.
>> Reporter: MORE SO TN EVER THESE DAYS. NO WONDER PRUCTIVITY SOAR IN THE SECOND QUARTER OF T YEAR. FEWE WORKERS, MORE OUUT. HIGHER PRODUCTIVITY. AND FUELING TH PROSS MAY BE THE MORE THAN NINE MLLION AMICANS NOW WORKING PART TIME. T EVEN INCLUDED IN THE OFFICIAL UNEMPLOYMT NUMBERS. PEOP LIKEHESE TWOEN.
>> I WO WITH THE U.S. CENSUS FR MARCH UNTIL MAY. I TYPICALLY AVERAGED ABOUT 30 TO 35 HOURS A WEEK IN THAT PERIOD OF TIME.
>> Reporter: WE YOU LOOKING FORULL-TIME WORK THAT POINT?
>> I WAS STILL LOING FOR LL-TIME WORK.
>> Reporter: WT ABOUT YOU, JOHN?
>> I WAS ABLE T SECURE AN ADJUNCT TEACHING PROFESSOR OPPORTUNITY. I'M AVERAGING ABOUT 1 HOURS A WEEK. WITH THAT ASSIGNMENT. AND LOOKING FOR FLL-TIMEORK ATHE SAME TIME.
>> Reporter: BARBARA HAS FR LANCED SINCE LOSING HER JOB.
>> I'M AN INDEPDENT CONTRACT WORKER. Reporter: IN A RLATED TREN, NOT ONLY ARE WORKERS WORKINHARDERUTANY WHO DID HANG ONTO FULL-TIME JOBS AGREED TCUTS IN PAY, BENEFITSND HRS IN ORDER TO SHARE THE PAIN AND THUS AVOID MASS LAY-OFFS. LI THE WORKERS ATNSURANCE MAKE CEO JOHN STONER.
>> WEELT PRETTY COMFORTABLE WITH EVERYTHG ELSE GOING ON THE ELKHARTOMMUNITY KNOWING PEOPLE AND NEHBORS ARE LOSI JOBS TAT THEY WOULD SAI WOULD RATHER HE A JOB EVENFOUR DAYS A WEEK THAN NOT HAVE JOB.
>> Reporter: WITH LAY-OFFS AND A WAGE FREE FOR HIGHER PAID SALARY WORKERS SOME 25 JOBS HAVE BEESAVED IN A FACTORY OF 125 NE WORKERS, ONE OF WHOM ISRYAN.
>> I PRA MORE PEOPLE T TO WORK. I'M NOT A SELFISH GUY. I DON'T ND GIVING UP A LILE FOR THE GREATER GOOD THE WHE.
>> Reporter: STEPHANIE AGREES. >>WE ALL ARE I THE LIFE AT. I THINK I'S ALL BETTER IFE PADDLE ALONGO KEEP EACH OTHER AFLOAT.
>> Reporter: EVEN AMID SIGNS E STORM MAY BE OVER, ERICAN WORKERS STILL SEEM TO BE UP THE CREEK. WITH UNEMPLOYMENT RISING TO 9.7%AST MONTH. THE JOB LOSS WAS LESS THAN PREDICTED BUTTRY TELLING THAT TO THE216,000 PEOPLE WHO LOST THEIR JOBS IAUGUST.
>> Ifill: NOW OFFREY BROWN DISCUSSES SOME OF THBIG ANGES THAT ARE HAPPENING IN THE AMERICANORKPLACE
>> Ifill: NOW, JFREY BROWN DISCUSSES SOME OF THE BIG CHANGES THAT ARE HAPPENINGN THE AMERICAN WORKPLA, AND THE CONSEQUENCES. SHE'S THE AUTHOR OF SERAL BOOKS ON TH WORK FORCE INCLUDING CHUTES A LADDERS. AND THE CE OF MANPOWER, A STAFFING FIRM AT WORKS WITH BUSINESSES OUND THE COUNTRY. TIA EDWARDS DEPU EXECUTIVE DIREOR OF LOUISIANA'S WORK FORCE COMMISSION. AND CARL VAN HORNE, DIRECTOR AND FOUNDEOF THE HELDRICK CENTER FOWORK FORCE DEVELOPMENT. CATHERINE NEWMAN'LL START WITH YOU. WHEN YOU LOOK AT THE CURRENT DOWNTU AND LONGER TRENDS, DO YOU GET A SEE THAT THE B MARKET IS CHANGING IN SOME FUNDAMENTAL WA?
>> IT LOKS TERRIBLE, OF COURSE. AND IT'SHANGING IN ALL OF THE NEGATIVEIRECTIONS THAT WE HAVE COME TO KNOW FROM THIS RECESSION. I THIN MOST PROFOUN IS WHAT'SAPPENED TO MIDDLE-AGED WORKERS WHO ARE REAY TAKING TH IN E THROAT. AND WHO HAVE A LOTFFAMILY REONSIBILITIES BECAUSE OF THE WAY OUR HOUSEHOL HAVE BEEN CHANGING. THEY HE YOUNGER CHILDREN TO TAKE CAROF A SO THE COMBATION OF OUR CHANGING DEMOGRAPHY AND THE BAD NWS IN THE JOB MARKETS REALLY A PROBLEM FOR AMERIC FAMILIES. >>rown: CARL VAN HOR U'VE JUST DONE A STUDY CALLED THE ANGUISH OF UNEMPLOYMENT. TE US WHAT YOU FOUND.
>> WL, WHAT WE WERE STRUCK BY IN THAT STUDY OF UNEMPLOYED AMERICANWHO LOST THEIR JOB IN THE LAST 12 MONTHS WAS HOW WIDESPREAD THE... THE REPORTED THEIR DEPRESSIO, ANXIETY, SRESS, ANDVEN ANGER WAS. IT WAS REALLY AN EQUAL OPPORTUNIT WHEN YOU LOOK ATHE DEMOAPHICS WHETHER IT'S BY GEER, RACE, INCOME, E AND SO ON, WE FIND ACROSS THE BOD PEOPLE ARE REALY EXPRSING PROFOUN PERSONAL CATASTROPHES AS A SULT OF THIS RECESSION.
>> Brown: TIA, IUESS YOU HAVE TO DEAL WITH REAL PRACTICA IMMEDIATE PROBLEMS. WHAT DO YOU SEE? IN LOUISIANA THE RECESSION BASICALLY SN'T HIT US. IT CAME A LITTLE B LATER FOR US IN LOUISIA. NY OF OUR WORRS AND OUR EMPLOYERS ARE LOOKING THE OPPORTUNITY TO RETL THE SKILL SETS OF OUR WORKER HOW DOE GET RETRAING AND OPPORTUNITIES TO LOKT MPETENCIES AND SKILL SETS OF THOSE INDIVIDUALS WHO AR COMING OUT OF THOSE INDUSTRY SECTORS AT ARE ON THE DOWNTURN? TH EMPHASISIS RETOOLING, RETRAINING, TO GET THOSE WHO HAVE BN DISLOCATED BACKNTO THE WORK FORCE.
>> Brown: JEFF, GENERALERMS, WHAT ARE YOU SENG... WHAT ARE YOU HEARINWHEN YOU'RE TALKINWITH EMPLOYERS AND WORKING TH EMPLOYEES?
>> WE ARE IN A DIFFICULT ENVIRONMENBECAUSE ACTUALLY ERYTHING THAT'S GOING ON NOW WAGOING ON BEFORE. IT'S JUST BECCELERATED AND EXAGGERAD. SO THE INDIVUAL CHALLENGES OF HAVING TO BE REALLY ADAPTABLE TO ENVIROENTS AND COMPANIES ALWA LOOKING R DIFFERENT WAYS TO COETE, ALL THE THINGS ARE HAPPENING. THE SIZE OFHE DOTURN AND THE LIFE OF THE DOWNTURN HAS TAKEN THESE ENVIRONMTS AND JUST RATCHETED THEM UP AND ACCELETED THEM. WE WERE PLNING ON ALL OF TH. THE CHALLENGE W IS TT IT SO MUCH AND I SUCH LGE NUMBERS IN FRONT OF US OF GOVERNMENTS, COMPANIES AND INDIVIDU ARE REALLY IN A TOUGH SPOT RIGHTOW. THAT'S REALLY WHAT THE CHALLENGE IS.
>> Brown: TELL US T MORE. WHAT DO EMPLERS SAY NOWTO YOWHEN THEY'RE THINKING ABOUT... OR A THEY CHANGING THEIR THINKING ABOUTHO THEY HIRE, WHEN THE HIRE, WHAT THEY HIRE FO
>> YES. NO DOUBT. THEYE ALWAYS BEEN DOWN THIS QUEST OF HOW CAN DO MO WITH LESS? HOW DO YOU GET THIS ENVIRONMENT WHERE I'V GOT EXACT RIGHT, SPECIFIC SKILLS SO THAT CAN COMPETE. NOW WHAT'S HAPPENING IS THEIR DEMAND IS DOWN SO THEY CAN BE MORE SELTIVE. THEY'RE STILL HIRING. IN FACT, WE'RE EING THAT COMPANIES ARE HIRING BUT THEY'RBEING SO SELECTIVE AT INDIVIDUALS ARE SAYING WHY NOT ME? I THOUGHI WAS QUALIFIEFOR THIS. WHAT THEY' SEEING IS THAT COMPANIES HAVE REALLY NAOWED THEIR APERTURE. THEY'RE ABLE TO DO THAT BEUSE THEY'RE DOING ITN A MORE EXACT WY.
>> Brown: KATHLEE NEWMAN WHAT ABOUT THE MIX DURING THE RECESSION DURING LONGER-TERM TRENDS,HOW DOES ALL THAT CME GETHER IN WHAT YOU SEE IN THJOB MARKET?
>> I THINK WEO SEE A REAL PREMIUON SKILL AND VE FIRM ECIFIC SKILL. WHAT WORRIES ME ABO THIS IS TH OUR TRAININGSYSTEM WHICH LIES VERY HEAVILY ON PUBLIC SECTOR INSTITUTIS LIKE JUNIOR COLLEGES IS OVERWHELMED BY DEMAND AND THE RESOURCES TO FUELT ARE DECLINING. THE ATES ARE CUTTING TEIR BUETS IN HIGHER EDUCAON AT EXACTLY THE TI WHEN THE WORK FORCNEEDS TO BE ABLE TO RETURN TO SKILLUP IN EXACTLY THE Y THEY JUST HEARD. IT'S WORRISOMEHAT WE MAY NOT BE ABLE TO MEE THAT DEMAND IF WE ARE REING ON PUBIC INSTITUTIONS TO DO THAT TRAININGS WE USUALLY DO. >>rown: M EDWARDS, WHY DON'T U JUMP IN TERE, FROM LOUISIANA RKING IN STATE GOVERNMENT, HOW DO YOU DE WITH THAT?
>> YOU KNOW, TH IS EXACTLY WHY WE'RE LOOKING AT IN LOUISIANA HUGE CUTS TO OUR HIGHER EDUCATION STEM. SO ITS TRULY A CHALLENGE. MORE SNOW BUSINESS AND INDUSTRY HAVING TO TAKEHE LEAD. REALLY LOOKING AT CUSTOMIZED TRAINING OPPORTUNITI, LOOKING ATHE PRIVATE SECTOR, HAVINGO COME IN A TAKE THE LEAD IN DEVELOPING TRAING PROGRA, ARE DOING THE, YOU KNOW, ON-THE-JOB TRAINNG BECAUSE THERE IS A SHORTAGE, A CUT, IN THOSESTATE DOLLARS. FEDERAL LLARS. U LOOK AT THE WORK FORCE INVESTMENT ACT. THE WORKORCE DOLLARS THAT MANY OF O DEPARTMENTS OF LABOR HAVEO RELIED O THOSE DOLLARARE BEING CUT. SO THE EMPHASIS NOW IS ON HOW DO EMPLOYE UTILIZE CUSTIZED TRAINING ON-E-JOB TRAINI TO TRAIN THEIR WORKS?
>> BrownMR. VAN HORNE, WHAT DO YOU SEE? WHATRE THE IMPLICATIS THEN FOR NOT ONLY WHO DOE THE TRAINING B WHAT KIND OF TRNING WE'RE PREPARING PEOPLE FOR? WELL, IT'S AN IMPORTAN POINT BECAUSE ACTUALLY THE'S SOMENCREASE IN TRAINI DOLLS AVAILABLE THROUGH THE FEDEL GOVERNMENT UNDER THE STIMULUS PACKAGE BUT THE QUTION IS FOR WHAT ARE PEOPLE BEING TRAINED? AOT OF THAT MONEY IS AILABLE FOR SHORT-TERM TRAINING. IN FACT, I THINK POPLE ARE GOING TO NEED TRAINING IN EDUCATION FOTHE LONGER PERIOD OTIME. AGAIN WE FOUND IN OUR SUREY TH WE'VE BEEN TRACKING THIS FOR OVER TEN YEARS NOW THAT OVER TIME AS T STRUCTURAL PROBLEMS GO ON AND THEN THEY GET EXACERBATED DURING RECESSIO PEOPLE ESPECIALLY OLDER WORKS WHO AR WELL EDUCED HAVE LOTS OF SKILLS FI THEMSELVES OUT ON THE STREET THEIR OPTIMISM IS TAKING IT IN THE CHIN. THEY DON'TEALLY KNOW WHERE TURN. THERAREN'T ANY EASY ANSWERS IN ANY SCTOR OF THE ECONOMY AT THIS POIN THE'S, OF COURSE, A LITTLE BIT OF GROWTH I EDUCATI AND HEALTH CARE. THAT WILL PROBABLY CONTIE. BUT EN YOU LOOK ARND AT A LOT OF OTHER PCES THERE'SO AUTOMATIC WAY TO CUSHION YOURSELF FROM THIS PARTICUL DOWNRN.
>> Brown: SO WHAT ARE THE IMPLATIONS THEN FOR WORRS INERMS OF THEIR EXPECTATIONS, THEIR MOBILI, EEN THEIR VIABILITY TO BE PART OF THE WORK FORCE? WHATO YOU TELL PEOPLE?
>> IT'S A GREATUESTION. IT'S ONE THAT CAT BE ANSWERED SIMPLY BECAUSTHIS KIND OF CHANGE THAT HAS OCCURRED IACTUALLY A GREAT CHAN FOR A SMALL SEGMENT OF THE POPULATION. THE HIGHER-SKIED, THENES WHO ARE ADAPTABLE, MOBILE AND FLEXIBLE. WEE REALLY TALKING ABOUT ALL PART. SO WHEN WE GET INTO THIS, YOU HAVETHIS LARGESWATH OF DDLE CLASS THAT IS REALLY HAVI A DIFFICULT TIME. WHEN WE GO THROUGH AND TK TO THOSE PEOPLE, E OF THE THINGS THAT WE ARE SEEI IS THE ENERGY ASSOCIATE WITH INTELLECTUAL CIOSITY. THE KIND OF ENVIRONMENT WHERE SOMEONE SAYS I KNOW I HE TO BE AN INDUSTRY MRANT. I USED TO WORK IN THE AUTOMOTI INDUSTRY. AT'S NOT AVAILABLE FOR ME ANYMORE. THE PASSN AND THE WAY THEY GO AT TH IS SO IMPORTANT AND THE CHALLENGE AS RECENTL REFERREDO IS... FROM THE LAST SAKER... IS TY'RE REALLY IN A DOWN STATE. SOMEHOW THEY NEED TOOICK THEMSEES OUT OF THIS, ACCEPT SOMEESPONSIBILITY KNOWING IT MAY NOT HAVE BEEN THEIR FAULT AND REALLY GO AFTER T TRAINING THAT'S AILABLE BY E WORK FORCE INVESTMENT BOARDS A SOME OF THE OTHER THINGS TO TRY TO CREATE THAT DUSTRY MIGRATION INTO SOME OTHER FIELD. Brown: CATHERI NEWMAN, TH RAISES ANOTHER INTERESTING INT HERE, AS MR. JARRIS JUST SAID. THIS IS A GRAT CHANGE IN WAY FOR SOME SMALL SECTOR OF THE PULATION. NOW DOES THAT SUGGT WIDENING GAPS? DIFFENT GROUPS BEING HIT IN DIFFERENWAYS?
>> WELL, DIFFERENT GROUPS ARE BEING HIT IN DFFERENT WAYS BUT FOR LONG TIME NOW THE HIGH-SKILLED WORKERS HE BEEN ON T UP SIDE OF OUR ECONOMY. THAT A PROCESS THAT'S BE ONGOING FOR THE LAS 30 YEARS OR SO BUT UNDER RECESSION COITIONS HIGH-SKILLED WORKERS DO BETTER TH OTHERS DO. THAT SAID, OURRESEARCH SHOWS THAT HIGH-SKILLED A WELL EDUCATED WORKERS ARE MORE VULNERABLE NOW THAN THEY WER BEFORE. THEY'RE LESS VULNERABLE THAN WORKING CSS OR BLU DOLLAR WOERS B THE RISKS TO THEM ARE MUCHREATER THAN THEY USED TO BE. I THIN THAT'S WHERE A T OF THE FEAR COMES FROM. YOU CAN LOOK AT COLLEGE EDUCATED WORRS WHO ARE STANDING ON THE UNEMPLOENT LINES AND ASK YOURSELF AS HIGHCHOOL GRADUATE, WEL THEN WHAT ISHERE FOR ME? THERE'S TERR FACTOR TH COMES FROM SEEING EVEN THE BEST PLACED PEOPLE MORE VULNERABLE THAN THEY WE BEFORE.
>> Brown: TIA EDWARDS HOW DO YOU WEIGH THE DFERENT IMCTS ON DIFFERENT GROUPS LIKE TT WHETHER IT'SBETTER OR LEER EDUCATED MEN VEUS WOMEN? I MEAN THE ARE ALL KINDS O DIFFERENT WAYS OF LOOKG AT TH.
>> WELL, E MAJOROINT THAT WE ARE STRESSING IN LOUISIANA IS WHEN WE LOOK AT OUR BACKNE INDUSTRIES IN OUR STATE IS CAREER PATHWAYS AND CAREER LADDERS AND CARRS. OF CRSE,BEING A SKILLED WORKER AND,OU KNOW, IN LOUISIANOUR EMPHASIS HAS BEEN FOR SLONG ON THE COLLEGE EDUTED WORKER. BUT E FOCUS NEEDS TO BE ON HOW WE DEVELOPAREER PATHWAYS OR HOWO WE GET AN ENTRY-LEVEL WORKER TO MOVEROM THAT ENTRY LEVEL INTO A HIGHER SKILLED WORKER. SO THAT IN CASE THERE IS THE OPPORTUNITY FOR THERE TO B A DOWNTURN IN A PARTICUL INDUSTRY SECTOR. FOR EXAMPLE, IN O STATE VANCED MANUFACTURING. HOW THEN CAN WE MVE THAT INDIVIDUAL FROM TRANSFERABILITY I GUESS OF SKILLS. SO THE EMPHASIS NEEDS TO BE MO ON CAREER PATHWA, CAREER LADDERS, AND SO THAT'S WHERE WE'RE PLACING A LOT OF HOW DOE GET OUR TRAINING AND HOW DO WE GET OUR INVIDUALS WHO HAVE BEEN LAID OFF OR WHO HAVE LOST THEIR JOBS,EEN DISLOCED WORKERS INTO SOME TRAINING TT WILL ALLOW TH TO MOVE FROM ON INDUSTRY SECTORO ANOTHER.
>> Brown: MR. V HORNE, TO THE EXTENT THAT ECONOMIC HISTORY IS FULL OF CHURNING AND UPS D DOWNS, YOU LOOK AT A MOME LIKE THIS AND YOU OK AHEAD. ARE THERE ANY POSITIV SIGNS THAT YOU CAN TAKE OUT THERE FROM WHAT WE'RE SEEING THAT MIGHT BEOPEFUL? IN THEOMING YEARS I TERMS... FOR EMPLOYERS EMPLOYEES.
>> HISRY TELLS US THE RECESSION WILL END AND MOST OF THESE PEOPLE WILL GETOBS. BUT IN THE SHORT RUN IT' DIFFICULT TO BE OPTIMISTIC. I TNK THAT THERE ARE, WITH 15 MILLION PEOPLE UNEMPLED AT'S NOT A SMALL SWATH OF THE ECONOMY. THAT'S HUGE. CERTAINLY NOTHING LIKE ITN YEARS. THE JOBS REPORT SHOWED TH ME OUT ON FRIDAYF LAST WEEK. E POSITIVE THING THAT YO N GET OUT OF THIS PERHAPS, WE S THIS IN THE WAYUR RESPONDES REACT TO OUR QUESTIS ESPECIALLY IN THEIR VERBATIM RESPONSES AMERICANS ARE RESILIENT. THEY KEE COMING BACK. THEY KEEP TRYING. IN FT, TWO-THIRDS OF THEM OR MO THAN TWO-THIRDS SAID THEY WEREILLING TO TAKE A CUT IN PAY. THAT SHOWS YOU HOW THEY'RE FLEXIB. 34% SAID THEY'RE WILLING TO MOVE. D THE VASTAJORITY SAID THEY'LL Y ANOTHER CAREER. SO THEY'RE WILLINTO GO WITH THE CHAES IF THEY CAN FIND A JOB. BUT AGAIN WH DEMAND IS DOWN, IT'S HARD FOR TH TO ND A PLACE. THERE'S NO SAFE VEN. THE OPTIMISTIC NEWS IS REALLY IN SHORT SUPPLY EXCEP AMERICAN WORKERS STIL REMAIN VERY RESIENT AND DETERMINED TO TRY TO GET CK. THEY REALLY DON'T HAVE ANY HER CHOICE BUT THEY DOOME ACROSS AS VERY SONG-WILLED PEOPLE TO US.
>> Bwn: YOU'RE WORKING WITH EMPLOYERS THAT CLEARLYLY WANT TO TAKE E LONG RM. ARE THERE SOME POSITI TRENDS THAT YOU SEE THAT U CAN OFFER THEM?
>> OH, THERE NO DOUBT ABOUT IT. I MEAN WHAT WE' SEEING IN COMPANIEIS THEYWANT TO HIRE. BUT THEY'RE ALSO KNOWINGHAT THEY CAN'T GET THEIR EXPENSES AHEAD OF THEIRREVENUES. THEY'RE BEING VERY PRAICAL. THEY ARE ALSO GEING ALL THE DATA SING WHERE IS THIS REALLY GOING? AS LONG AS THERE'STHESE CHALLENGES IN RE, YOU RLLY GETHAT EMPLOYER OCK. THE EMPLOYE IS STUCK. THE EMPLOYER IS KNOWINGHAT THEY'VE GOT DO ME COST THINGS BUT AT E SAME TIME WORRIED ABOUT THEIR EMPLOYER BRAND. THEY'RE FRUSTRATED VING TO MAKE HARD DESIONS HAD THAT ARE SAYING THAT I NE TO HAVE FURLOUGHS, I NEED TO HAVE THE ENVIRONMENTS. VERY FRUSTRATG BECAUSE THEY KNOW THEY'RE HURTNG THEMSELVES ITHE FUTURE BUT THEYAN'T DO ANYTHING BECASE THEY REAY NEED CASH FLOW RIGHT NOW. EMPLOYERS, WARE SEEING,RE STARTING TO CK UP. THE OPTIMISM IS SLIGHTLY THERE. BUT WE NEED DEMAND. WE NEED FOR PRODUCTS AND SERVIC BECAUSE YOU CAN HAVE NO FALSE ECONOMY. THERE HAS TO BE REAL ECONOMY TO HE PEOPLE.
>> Brown: WE'LL LEAVE IT THERE WITH AITTLE BIT OF HOPE OUT THERE. CATHERINE NEWMAN, TIA EDRDS, JEFF AND CARL VAN HOR, THANK YOU ALL VY MUCH.
>> THANK YU.
>> TLNG THANK YOU.
>> Ifill
>> Ifill: ON OUR W SITE, FIND MORE OF PAUL SOLMAN'REPORTING ON THE REALITIES OF THE RECEION, AND READ HIS ANSWERS TO YOUQUESTIONS ON JOBS AND THE EC DESK." AT'S ALL AT newshour.pbs.org
>> Ill: NOW, THE STORY BEHIND THE STORIES OF LAST AR'S HISTORIC ANDONSEQUENTIAL PRESENTIAL CAMPAIGN. JUDY WOODRUFF CENTLY SAT DOWN WITH DAN BALZ AND HAES JOHNSON TO DISCUSS THEIREW BOOK, "THE BATTLE FOR AMERICA 200" THEY SPOKE AT E KNIGHT STUDIO AT THE NEW MUSEUM IN WASNGTON, D.C.
>> Woodruff: DAN BZ, HAINES JOHNSO THANK YOU BOTH. THE BOOK IS THE BATTLE FOR AMERIC2008. IT SAYS IT RIGHT HERE O THE COVER. THETORY OF AN EXTRAORDINARY ELECTION. YOU WRITE THERE MA NOT HA BEEN AN ELECTION THIS GNIFICANCE SINCE 1980, MAYBE SINCE 1932. HAINES, WHY?
>> WELL, I THI THE ISSUES BEFORE THE COUNTRY WER SUCH THAT YOU CLDN'TVEN SEE WHERE WE WERE GOING. THE COURY IS INROUBLE. THE ECOMY WAS TANKG. PEOPLE WERE RNED OFF ON POLITICS. AMERICA'S STANDING WAS GOING DO IN THE WORLD. THEUSH ADMINISTRATION WENT FROM THE HIGHE LEVEL ACCORDED IN THE POLLS 90% AFTER THE WORLD TDE CENTER DO TO WHERE NIXON WAS WHEN HE RESIGD. AMERANS ARE THE MOST OPTIMISTIC PEOPLIN THE WORLD. THEY WERE T OPTIMIIC ACROSS THE BOARD. IT DI'T MATTER WHERE U WE, WHETHER YOU WERE A REPUBLICAN OR A DEMOCRAT, MODERATE OR A LIBERAL, CONSERVATIVE, THEY A FELT THE COUNTRY WAS INEEP TROUBLE. THEYERE WORRIED ABOUT THE FUTURE. TH SET THE STAGE FOR DRAMATICALLY IMPORTANT ELECTION. THE STAKES WERE TRENDOUS. AN THEY'REVEN GREATER TODAY.
>> Wdruff: NOT TO MENTION, DAN, AN HISTORIC ELECTION IN SO MY WAYS. SO MANY WAYS, JUDY. THAT'S EXACTLY RIGHT. THE CAST O CHARACTERS IN THIS ELECTION MADIT HISTORIC. THFIRST AFRICAN-AMERICAN WITH A REAL CHACE TO BECE PRESIDENT. THE FIT WOMAN WITH A CHANCE TOBECOME PRESIDENT. LET'S NOT FORGET ABOUT JOH McCAIN, A RERKABLE STORY. A POW, A W HERO IN A PARTY THAT WAS IN DSARRAY A DEMOLIZED TRYING TO HOLD THE PARTY TOGETH THAT WAS IN DEEP TROUBLE.
>> Woodruff: YOU LOOK AT THE THRECENTRAL CHARACRS OF THIS BOOK, DAN: HILLAR CLINTON, BARK OBAMA, JOHN McCAIN, FULL OF CONTRADICTION. THERE'S CONTRADICTION EACH ONE OF THOSE STORI. EVERYBOD PRESUMED THAT HILLARCLINTON WOULD BEHE WIER. THEN THERE WERE ESE TERRIBLE MISTAK MADE IN HER CAMPAIGN. D YET SHE HAD THE FORTITUDE TO KEEP FIGHTING UNL THE VERY END. LP US UNDERSTAND WHY.
>> WELL, SHETARTED TH CAMPAIGN CTAINLY AS THE ODS- ON FAVORE TO BECOME THE DEMOCRATIC NINEE AND PROBABLY PRESIDENT GIVEN THE SIATION IN THE COUNTRY. FOR MUCH OF 27 SHE LKED LIKE SHE WAS GOING TO BE THE NOMINEE. SHWAS PERFMING AT A LEVEL HIGHER THA BARACK OBA. BARACK OBA HAD A VERY ROCKY START AS A CANDIDATE. SHE DINOT. SHE WAS DOING VERY WL. THEY MADA COUPLE OF CRITICAL MISTAKES. ONE WAS THAT THEY CAST R TOO MUCH AS THE INEVITABLE CANDIDATE. CAST HER T MUCH AS EXPERIENCE AND STRENGTH AS OPPOSED TO CHANGE. THEY DID NOT FIGUREOUT A WAY TO DL WITHTHE GREAT DESE FOR CHANGE IN THE COUNTRY. I THINK THEECOND PROBLEM WAS IOWA WAS ALWAYSER WORST STATE. AT A TIME WHEN SH WAS DOING SO WELL IN THE NATIONALOLLS, SHE WAS STRUGGLING IN IOWA. THEY NEVER FIGUREDUT HOW TO CRACK THE CA IN IOWA. SO WHEN SHE LOSTIN IOWA, IT COMPLETELY UPEND HER OSPECTS OF WINNING. THE THIRD THING S SHE HAD A CAMPAIGNF... A CAMPGN STF OF VERY TALENTED INDIVIALS. BUT WHO LLECTIVELY WERE NOT A PARTICULAY STRONG UNIT. THE OBA CAMIGN TEAM OUTPERFORMEDLINTON'S TEAMAT CRUCIAL MOMENTS IN T CAMPAIGN. BUT AS YOUAY, SHE CAME BACK WHEN IT WASOO LATE TO BE A VERY, VER STRONG CANDIDATE. FRIGHTENINGLY GOOD, VID AXELROD TO US.
>> Woodruff: CONTRADICTIONS WITH BARACK OBAMA TOO. HERE WAS SOMETHING SOMEBODY WHO ITIALLYEOPLE THOUGHT THERE'S NO WAYHIS NEWCOMER CAN MAKE IT. HEURNED OUT TO BE A VERY GIFTED CAMPAIGNER. SMART CAMPAIGN MANAGER. AND YET HAD THOSE REALLY, YOU KNOW, ALMOST HU MISTAKES IN HIS CAMPAIGN.
>> THE THING THAT'S FASCINATE TO GO BOTH OF USLOOKING AT OBAMA YOUOOK AT HIM NOW HE'S SO CL AND CEREBRAL AND ON TOP. NOT IN THE BEGINNING HE WAS NOT PARCULARLY GOOD CANDIDATE. HE ALSHAD A LOT OF SELF-DBT, FRUSTRATION. YOU DIDN'T GET AT FROM THE CAMPAIGNRAIL. BUT INRNALLY THERE WAS TH TROUBLE HEAS TRYING TO FND HIELF. THAT MADE IT A FASCITING PART OTHE CHARACTERS. HOW THEY EVOLVED. HOW THEY DEAL WITH IT. MADE IT FOR ITERS, THIS WAS A EAM.
>> Woodruff: AND YOU REFLECT THAT. TOHING ON JOHN McCAIN, AGAIN, CONTRADIIONS HERE BECAUSE HERE WAS THE OUTSIDER THE REPUBLICAN WHO BEME THE STANRD BEARER AND WHO, YOU KNOW, WAS FANG,OU KNOW, WAS IT ALL THE HEAD WINDS THAT YOU'VE JT DESCRIBED.
>> HE STARTEOUT HAVING LOST E 2000 PRIMARIES TO GEORGE W. BUSH. HE STARTEDUT WITH AECISION THAT HE WAS GOINGTO TRY T EMULATE E BUSH CAMPGN IN HIS008 OPERATION. THAT WAS A BIG MISTAKE. IT WAS JUST A KINDOF CPAIGN STRUCTURE THAT DID NOT F JOHN McCAIN. HE HAD BEEN A MAVERICK IN 2000. HE DECIDED TO WIN THE MINATION. HE HAD TO BECOME THE ESTABLISHMT FAVORITE. THAT ALSO D NOT WORK FO JOHN McCAIN. THE MONEY PROBLEMS. THAT FORCEA COLLAPSE IN HIS CAAIGN IN THE SUMER OF 2007. AT THAT POINT EVERYBODY WROTE HIM OFF. ERYBODY SAID JOHN McCN IS DEAD. HE CAN'T COME BACK FROM IS. NO CANDITE HASVER GONE UP AS HIGAS McCAIN DID AND THEN PLUMMETED THE WAY HEID AND COME BACK. HE ADOPD A STTEGY WHICH WAALL HE COULD DO WHICH WAS LASTAN STANDING AND Y TO WIN IN NEW HAMPSHI. HE WAS BLESSED WITH OPPONENTS WHO COD NOT TAKE ADVANTAGE OF HIS WEAKNESSES AT THAT POININ THE CAMPAIGN. AST PLAYED OUT HE WAS THE LAST MAN STANDIN TO WIN THE NOMINATION.
>> EARLY ON DAN HAD A WOERFUL EXPRESSION ABOUT McCAIN. AKESPEAREAN IN THE SENSE THAT HE WAS TRAPPED BY THE ISONER OF WAR. HE SUPPORT GEORGE W. BUSH ON THE WAR, THE PERSON W HAD BEATEN H. HE NEVERAS ABLE TO GETUT OF THAT BOX. TALK ABOUT SHAKESPEARN DRAMAS THIS WAS IT. Woodruff: ONE OF THE OTHER MAIN FIGURES IN THIS BOOK, OF COURSE, IS SARAH PALIN. YOU WRITE FRANKLY ABOUT HOW SHE WA VETTED BETTER I THINK THAN A LOT OFEOPLE REALIZED BUT NOT NECESSARILY WELL PREPAREDOR A NATIONAL PRIME TIME CAMPAIGN. WH DO YOU LEARN, DAN ABOUT HER THAT MAY TELL US SETHING ABOUT HER FUTURE.
>> WELL, MEAN, YOU'RE ABSOLUTELYIGHT. SHE WAVETED IN A LEGAL SENSE MORE THAN PEOPLE REALIZEDAT THE TE. SHE WAS NOT VETED IN A POLITICAL SENSE WCH WAS THEY KNEW THIS WAS A RISK BUTHEY DIDN'T TAKE THATNTO ACCOUNT AS MUCH AS TY SHOULD. SHE WAS A PERSON GREAT AMBITION. SHE WAS A PERSON WHO H NATURAL POLITIL TENTS AS WE S WHEN SHE DELIVED THAT SPEE AT THE REPUBLICAN CONVENTION WHICH JUST BROUGHT THE USE DOWN INTHOSE FIT WEEKS RIGHT AFTER THE CONVENTIONHE WAS EXTRAORDINARILY STRONG CANDIDATE. BUT SHE DID NOT HAVE THE DEPT SHE DID NOT HAVE THE EXPERIENCE. SHE SIMPLY WAS NOT READY FOR THE TIONAL STAGE AND THE NATIONALCRUTINY. AS THE CAMPAIGN WENT ON, HER NUMBERS WENT FROM VY GOOD TO WEAK AND WEAKER. PARTICARLY WITH THE GROUP THAT THE NEEDED HELP WITH MO WHICH WAS MODERATES, INDEPENDENTSWOMEN WHO HAD SUPPORTED HILLARY CLINTON W WE A LITTLE DISAFFECTEDY HER DEFEAT. IN NO W WAS SHE ABLE TO ATTRACT EM. I THINKHAT WE'VE SEEN SICE THELECTION IHAT SHE HA NOT BEEN ABLE TO IMPROVE HER STANDING BEYOND THE BASE OF THE REBLICAN PARTY.
>> SHE WAS METEOR. SHE TOOK OFF. ALL OF A SUDDEN, WOW, IT'S GOING TO CHANG EVERYTHING. TH REPUBLICANS LOVEHER. THE COUNT LOVED HER. ENTRANCED HER. IT STARTS GOIN DOWN AND DOWN AND DOWN. SHE NEVER CAME BACK. THEN OF COURSE THE ECOMY WHICIS THE OTHER THING, THE ME THING WHEN McCAI NEVE SA, ITS THE CRASHING OF TH ECONOMY.
>> Woodruff: HOW MUCH DID THIS ELECTION TELL YOU ABOUT HOW BARACKOBAMA IS GOVERNING?
>> VY GOOD QUESTION. AND A HARD QUESTN BECAUSE THE SKILLS ARE IN SOME WAYS QUITE DIERENT. HE WAS AS A CANDATE AN EXTRAORDINILY INSPIRATIONAL FIGURE. HEGENERATEDENORMOUS PASSION AROUND THEOUNTRY. CLEARLYON ELECTION NIGHT, THERE WAS A SENSE HISTOR BEING MA IN THIS COUNTRY THAT WAS SHARED NOT JUST BY THE DEMOCRATS WHO HAD VOTED FOR H BUT BY REPUBLICANS WELL. THIS WAS MOMENT WHERE THE COUNTRY SAID WE VE AIEVED METHING HERE. WHAT PPENS AFTER THIS, TS IS AN IMPORNT MENT FOR THE COUNTRY. MARICUOMO, THE FORMER GOVERNOR OF NEW YORK HAS OFTEN SAID POLITICIANS CAMPAIGN IN POETRY AND GOVERN IN PROSE. FOR BARACK OBAMA GOVERNING IN PROSE HAS PROVEN TO BE MORE DIFFICULT. I THINK IT IS A LEARNING EXPERIENCE FORIM. E CAMPAIGN GAVE HIM RTAIN SKILLS THAT HAVE NOTEEN SILY TRANSFERABLE. IT IHARD TO RECREATE THE PASSN, THE ENERGY, THE SENSE OF HOPE AND INSPATION WHEN YOU'RE IN E MIDDLE OF SAUSE MAKING ON CAPITOL HILL. IT IS JUST A DIFFERENT ENVIRONMEN IHINK THAT THAT'S WHAT HE'S BEEN WRESTLINGWITH.
>> JUDY, WE STARTED ON TH BOOKHREE YEARS AGO, NOT JUST TO DO ANOTHER BOOKON POTICS AND PRESIDENTS AND S FORTH BUT BECAUSE DID BELIEVE THIS WOULD BE AN STORIC ELECTION. E STAKES WERE SO BIGOR THE COTRY. WHATEVER HAPPENEWOULD BE A TEST NOT ONLY FOR THE PRESIDENCYUT FOR THE PEOPLE AND OUR POLITICASYSTEM. THAT'SHAT WE'RE EING NOW. IT'S VY TOUGH. WHOEVER WAS GOING TOE PRESIDENT WOULD HAVE O OF THE ST DIFCULT TIMES SIN FDR 1932 TAKING OVER ALL E ISSUES BEFORE THE COUNTRY. OBAMA FINDING THAT. IS HE HANDLIN IT WELL? IS HE TRYING TO D TOO MUCH? THAT'S THE NEXT ASE. THAT'S THEEXT CHAPTER.
>> Woodruf AND WE'RE ON E GE OF OUR SEATS. ANK YOU BOTH FORALKING WITH US. HAINES JOHNSON, DAN BALZ, THE BATTLE FOR AMERICA, 2008.
>> THANKS, JUDY.
>> THAS, JUDY. Ifill:
>> Ifill: YOU CAN WATCAN EXTENDED VERSI OF JUDY ODRUFF'S INTERVIEW WITH DAN BALZ AND HAYNES JOSON, AND YOU CAN ALSO TAKE A LO BACK AT NEWSHOUR COVERE OF THE 2008 ELECTION, ON OUR WEB SITE AT newshour.pbs.org.
>> Ifill: READIN WRITING, AND PIHING? THOSE ACTIVITIES AREN'T OFN LINKED TETHER AT CAMP, BUT WE HAVE ONE EXCEPTION. THE STY COMES FROM SPECIAL RRESPONDENT JOHN TULENKO OF ARNING MATTERS TELEVISION, WHICH PRODUCES EDUCATION SRIES FOR THE NEWSHOUR.
>> Reporter: SUMMER NEARLY OVER. FOR MILLIONS OF KIDS, THAT'S GOOD NEWS. RONFAIRCHILD DIRECTS E NATIONAL CENTER FOR SUER LEARNI.
>> WHILE MANY OF US HOLD THIS NDERFUL IDYLLIC NOTION OF WH SUMMER IS ABOUT FOR KIDS, IT THIS WONDEUL TIM FOR KIDS TO BE KDS, FOR ALL THIS EEDOM, FOR EXPLORATION, THE REALITIS THERE A MIIONS KIDS IN THIS COUNTRYTHAT DON'T HAVE ACCESS TO TT. FOR WHOM SUMMER VACATION REPRESEN A MAJOR SETCK D SK.
>> Reporter: THE RIS IS HIGHEST IN COMMUNITI LIKE EAST HARLEM, NEW YORK. WHEN SCHOOL IS OUT MANY KIDS VE NOWHERE TO GO BU THE STREETS. RICHARD BERLIN WORKS WITH NEIGHBORHOODOUTH.
>> AND THERE IS INTENSE POVERTY HERE. JUST A SENSE OF HOPELESSNESS. KIDS GET INTO GANGS. KIDS GO TO JAIL. KIDS GET ON DGS. THESE HAPPEN I ALL MMUNITIES BUT THEY HAPPEN WAY TOO MUCH IN POOR COMMUNITIES.
>> Reporter: THAT'S WHERE HARL R.B.I. COMES I IT'S A FE SIX-WEEK LONG SUMMER DAY CAMP AND A YEAROUND AFTER-SCHOOL PROGRAM COMBINING BASELL WITH ACADEMICS. BERLIN IS THE DIREOR.
>> DURING THE SUMMER IT ESSENTLLY A FULL DAY LITERACY AND BASEBALL CAMP. KIDS ARE LEARNING IN THE ASSROOM WITHROFESSIONAL TEACHERS AND COLLEGE SDENTS AS TEACHERS AIDES. FR 9:00 UNT 12:00. THEY HAVE BREAKFT HERE AND LUNCH HE. TH THEY'RE ON THE BALL FIELD IN THE ARCH.
>> Reporter: OVER 0 BOYS AND GIRLAGES 6 TO 18 ENLL ON A FIRST-COME/FST-SERVE BASIS. DAYS START WITH REING. E GOAL IS TOVOID A MAJOR SUER RISK THAT AFFECTS DISADVANTAGED KIDS MOST. FALLING BEHIND IN SCHOOL >>EING A REGULAR SCHOOL YAR TEACHER I FIND A LOT OF MY KIDS WILL GO AY FOR THE SUER AND HAVEN'T PICKED UP A BO. AWFUL. WHEN THEY COME BACK AND THEY'RONE OR TWO READING LEVELS BEHD WHERE THEY LEFT THE YEAREFORE.
>> Reporter: MEGAN WORKS SUMMERS AT R.B.I. DURING THE SCHOOL YEAR SHE ACHES IN PUBLIC SCOL WHERE THERE'S MOREND MORE PRESSURE TO SHOW RESULT
>> MY DAYS AREO STRICT AND STCTURED. THERIS LESS TIME FOR PLEARE READING. YOFEEL THAT URGENCY TO MAKE UP A L OF T MISSED YEARS OF SCHOOL.
>> WE START WHO CAN TELL ME WHAT WAS THE LAS THING WE READ YESTERD IN CHARLIE AND....
>> Repter: ANITA CHAN IS ANOTHEPUBLIC SCHOOL TEACHER WHOORKS SUERS AT R.B.I.
>> I THINKOMETIMES IN THE SUMMERTIME THE KIDS ARE LIKE WE'RE OFF AND DON'THAVE TO READ. WHEN THEY COME TO TIS PROGRAM WE'RE SNEAKINGT IN. WE DO GET TO RE GRAPHIC NOVELS AND MORE FUN BOOKS I GUESS YOU COULD SAY, HIGHER INTEREST BOOKS FOR THE KIDS. Reporter: THE FOCUS ON READING FORLEASURE APPEARS TO WORK.
>> OVER 90% OF THE KI GO BACK TO SOOL IN SEPTEMBER EITHER HAVING NOT LOST ANY MONT OR HAVING MADE SIGNIFICANT GAINS. WEAVE KIDS WHO COME HE WHO LL READ 40 OR 50 BOOKS IN A SUMMER.
>> Reporter: BUT BASEBALIS THE MAIN MOTIVATOR. R.B.I. H 20 TEAMS THAT PLAY EACH OTHER EACH WEEK THE TEAM THAT SCORES THE ST RUNS WI A PRIZE. RUNS CAN BE EARNED ON AND OFF THE FIELD.
>> YOUR TEAM ONL WINS THE RUNS RALLY IF YOU DEMONSTRATED THE VALUE OFHE TEAM, RESPECT, TEAMWORK,.. IF YOUID YOUROOK REPORT. IF YOU READ THREEOOKS INSTEAD OF ONE OR IF YOU WERE JUST A GOOD TEAMMATE ON THE FIELD IN SUPPORTINGOMEBODY WHEN THEY STRUCK OUT. THOSE ARE THE THINGS THAT ARE IMPORTANT HERE.
>> Reporter:LDER TEENAGS ARE ALSOART OF R.B.I. BESIDES BASEBA, THEIR SUMMS ARE FULL OF WORKSHOPS AND COMMUNITY SERVICE. TH GROUP IS PLTING A GARDEN AT A BLIC HOUSING PROJECT. THEY'LL ALSO GET INTENSE ACADEMIC HELP THROUGHIGH SCHOOL TO KEEP THEM ON AATH TO SUCCESS. HOW MANY OF YOU ARE IN COLGE OR GNG TO COLLEGE? THESE YOUNG MEN AND WOMEN GREW UP IN R.B.I. AND ARE THE RST IN THEIR FAMILIES TO ATTEND COEGE.
>> BEING IN R.B.I., YOU KNOW, R.B. MADE ME REALIZE WHAT ARE THE MST IMPORTANT THIN IN MY FE AND THE MOST IMPORTANTHING IS MYSCHOOL, IS MY EDUCATION. WE UERSTAND THAT BASEBALL IS PART OF.B.I., BUT COLLE IS AN AIEVEMENT THAT YOU WAN GET THROUGH.
>> I THINK IF IT WSN'T FOR R.I., I WOULDN'T BE THE PEON I AM TODAY AT ALL. I WOULD IN THE STREETS DOING NETIVE THINGS. I THANK R.B. FOR EVE SINGLE THINGHEY DID FOR ME DURING MY WHOLE LIFE
>> Reporter: SUPPORTLSO COMES FROM TEAMMATES. MOST TEENAG STAY IN T PROGRAM AND PLAY ON E SAME TEAM FOR SIX YEARS.
>> THE ULTIMATE POWER OFUR WORK FOR KIDS IS THI CONCEPT OF TEAMS. THAT EVERYBODY HERE IS O A TEAM. EVERYBODY HEREAS A GROU OF PES AND AGROUP OF ADULTS THAT HAVE... THAT ARE PUSHING THEM TO DO BETTER, TH NEED THEM AND RELY ON THEM FOR THEIR N SUCCESS.
>> Reporter: ROBERT, OW LONG HAVE YOU BEEN WITH YOUR TEAMTES? SINCE THE AGE OF 13. LUIGI IS ONE OF MYEAMMATES. EVER SIN THE AGE OF 13, HE'S BEEN PLAYING SECOND BASE. I'VE BEEN BEHINDHE PLATE. IT'S LE A FAMILY NOW.
>> Reporter: DO Y LOOK OUT FOR EACH OTHER?
>> ALL THE TE.
>> YES, YES.
>> Reporter: COLLEGE STUDENTS LO AFTER KIDS, TOO. AS COACHES. YOU'RE ALL COACHES. WHAT BROUGHT YOU BK?
>> I WANT TO GIVE BACK... I WANT TO INSPIRE. I N'T WANT THEM TOBECOME A PRODUCOF THEIR ENVIRONMENT. THEYIGHT GROW UPROUND THINGS THAT AREN'T SO POSITIVE I WANT THEM TO KW YOU CAN COME UP OUT OFHAT BECAUSE THAT'S WHAT I DID. I WANT TO GIVEHAT BACK. NOTHING IS MORE POWERFUL THAN HEANG ABOUT WORKING HARD FM A KID WHO HAS MADE IT THROUGH HIGH SCHOOL, GONE OFF TOOLLEGE AND IS TTING THERE TELLING THIS 10-YEAR-O, DO IT THIS WAY. BECAUSE IF YOU DO IT THISAY, THESE GOOD THINGS LL HAPPEN.
>> Reporter: IN ACITY WHERE NELY HALF OF ALL HIGH SCHOOL STUDENTS FAIL TO GRADUATE, 90% OF R.B.I.'S TEENAGERS GET INTO COLLEGE. IT DSN'T COME EASY BUT THAT'S PART OF WH THEY'RE LEARNING HERE O. IT COSTS HARLEM R.B.I. ABOUT $2,000 PER CHILD TORUN ITS SUMMER CP. NDING COMES FROM GOVERNMEN ANDRIVATE GRANTS. MAJOR LEAGUE BASEBALL HELPS IN MORE THAN CITIES BUT THE HARLEM PGRAM IS THE ONLY ONE THAT FOCUSES ON EDUCATION. THIS SUMMER MKS ITS8th( ANNIVERSARY.f+!Gb$kk#÷
>> Ifill: AND FINALLY TONIT, AN ENCORE PRESENTAON FROM OUR ONGOING COVERAGEF POETS AND LAST YEAR WE VISITEDARY JO BANG IN STLOUIS TO DISCUSS HER 2007 NIONAL BOOK CRITICS' CIRCLE ARD-WINNING COLLECTION, "ELEGY." HER SIXTH BO OF POEMS, "THE IDE OF E," WILL BE RELEASED THE END OF THIS NTH.
>> I'M MARY JO BANG. I LIVE IN ST. LOUIS MISSOURI WHERE I TEACH AT WASHINGTON UNIVERSITY. I'M PROFESSOR OF ENGLISH AND DIRECTOR OF THE CREIVE WRITING PROGRAM. I'M ALSO A PT. W BEAUTIFUL. A PERSONAL LENS GLASS SENDING RAYS THAT GAVE ONE EACH DAY'S NEWS SAYI EACH AND EVERYDAY JUST REMEMBER YOUR ANDING ON A PLANETHAT IS EVOLVING. HOW BEAUFUL SHE THOUGHT. WHAT DISTANCE DOESOR WATER THE VIEW FROM ABE OR AFAR. IN LAST NIGHT'S DREAM THEY WEREACK AGAIN ATHE BEGIING. SHE WAA CHI AND HE WAS A ILD. A PLANE LEFT HER THERE. COLDWHITENING THE WHI SKY WHER AND THE SCALPEL CUT HER OPENOR ALL TH WORLD TOSEE. IN 2004 MY SONMICHAEL DIED OF AN ACCIDENTALVERDOSE OF PRESCRIPTION DRUGS. THIS IS A PHOTOGRAPH IOOK OF HIM WHEN HWAS YOUNGER. INITIALLY I DIDN'T THI ABOUT TH FACT THAT I W WRITING AN ELEGY. I WASRITING A POEM. D THE POEM CAME OUT OF MOURNING. IT WAS ONL AFTER IAD WRITTEN QUITE A FEW OF THESE THAT I BEGAN TREMEMBER THAT THERE IS THIS FORM, AND IT'S CALL ELGY. I SAW WHAT ITAS DOING R ME I COULDN'T HP BUT THINK THAT THIS MIGHT HAVE SOMETHING T DO WITH WHY THE ELEGY HAS BEEN SO PSISTENT FROM THE BEGINNING OF POETRY UNTI THE PRESENT MOMENT. I THINK THAT IT DES MANY INGS. IT DISTRACTSHE POET, AT LET MOMENTARILY, FROM THE STATE OF EXQUISITE GRF. WE THINK ABOUT EMILY DICKINSON AND NY OF HER POEMS COULD BE CALLED. ELEGIE TER GREAT PAIN AORMAL FEELINCOMES. YOHAVE TO KNOW SOMEING ABOUTHAT STATE TO WRITE WORDS LIKE THAT. I BEGAN TO E THAT THAT WAS SOMETHING THAT I WAS PROBABLY DOING AS WELL. DISTRACTING MYSELFTRYING TO DO WHAT I DO WHICH ISRITE EMS AS A WAY OF ESPING AT LEAST MOMENTARILY A STATE O EXQUISE SUFFERING THE ROLE OF ELEGY IS TO PUT A DEATH MASK O TRAGEDY ARAPE ON THE MIRROR, TO BOW TO THE CULTURAL DEBATOVER THE PURPOSE OF SORR, O LOSS, OF THE UNBEABLE, AFTER-IMAGE OF THE ONCE MERIAL. TO LOOK FOR AN IMAGINED, CONSOLIDATION OFRIEF SO THAT CAN ALL BE FINISHED ONCE AND FOR ALL AND GENUINELY SHUT UP THE CABINET OF GENUINE PARTICULARS. I THINK THE OTHER THING FOR ME WAS THIS IDEA OF CONTINUING IN THE CONVERSATION THAT I HAD BEEN HAVG WITH MY SON. WE WERE VERYLOSE. THE IDEA OF NOT EVER SPEAKING TO HIM AGAIN WAS ACCEPTABLE. SO THIS WAS A WAY TO KEEP TALKING. EVEN THEN SOMEMES HE W AN EXCELLENREADER OF POETRY EVEN THOUGH HE HADN'T STIED POETRY AT ALL. BUT HE JUST HAD SOMEEALLY GOOD INTUITION ABO WHAT A GOOD POEM WAS. HE UNDERSTOOD POETRY THAT IS FAIRLY FFICULT. SO SOMETIMES I WLD HEAR HIM BEHIND MY SHOULDER SAYING, YOU KNOW, DON'T GET IT, MO AND THEN I'D HAVE TO SOMEHOW CORRECT THPOEM. SO IT WOULD BE SOMETHING THAT HE WOULD DERSTAND. STEAD THERE'S THE ENDLESS REFRAIN ONE HEARS REPYED REPEEDLY TOUGH THE DOOR, SOME TERRIBLE MISTAKE HAS BEEN MADE. WHAT IS ELEGY BUT THE ATTEMPT TO REBREATHE LIFE INTO WHAT THE GONE-ONE ON WAS BEFORE GREW TO ENORMITY? COME ON STAG AND BE YOURSELF, THELEGIST SAYS TO THE DEAD. SHOWHEM NOW AFTER THE FA WHAT YOU WERE MEANT TO BE. THE PFORMER VELI H A LIVE SONG, A SHOE. NOBOW. WHATS LEFT BUT TH? THE COMPULSION TO TELL.
>> AGAIN, THE JOR DEVELOPMENTS THE DAY. PRESIDENT OBAMA RENEWED HIS DRE FOR HEALTH CARE REFORM IN A LABOR DAY SPEECH IN CINCINNATI. AND PRIDENT HAMID KARZAI CHARGED THE U.S. WITH UNDERMINING HIM. HE ALSO TOLD A FRENCH NEWSPER THAT HE BEEVES HE WON LAST MONTS PRESIDENTIAL ELECTION, DESPITE GROWING RERTS OF FRAUD. ON newour.pbs.org, AN ONLINE- ONLY FEATURE TONIGHT. A FRESH ROUNUP OF STORIES ON OUR ROUND THE NATION PAGE," WHICH HIGHLIGHTS SOME OFHE BEST REPORTING FROM OUR LOL PBS AND NPR COEAGUES ON THE ECONOMY, THE ENVIRONNT, HEALTH CARE, D MORE. AND AGAI TO OUR HONOR ROLL OF AMERICAN SERVI PERSONNEL KILLED IN THIRAQ AND AFGHANISTAN CONFLIS. WE A THEM AS THEIR DEATHS ARE MADE OFFICIAL AND PHOGRAPHS BECOME AILABLE. RE, IN SILENCE, ARE EIGHT MORE. WE'LL SEE U ONLINE, AND AGAIN HERE TOMORROW EVENING. I'M GWEN IFILL. THANK YOU, AND GOOD NIGH MAJOR FUNDING FOTHE NEWSHOUR WITHIM LEHRER IS PROVIDED : INTEL. SUPPTING MATH AND SCIENCE EDUCATION FOR TOMORROW'S INNOVATORS. >>ND BY THE BILL AND MELINDA GATES FOUNDATION. DEDICATED TO THE IDETHAT ALL PEOPLE DERVE THE CHANCE TO LIVE A HEALTHY PRODUCTIVE LI. AND WITH T ONGOING SUPPORT OF THESE INSTITUTIONS AND FOUNDATIONS. AND... THIS PROGRAM WAS MADE POSSLE BY THE CORPORATI FOR PUBLICROADCASTING. AND BY CONTRIBUTIONS TO YO PBS STATION FROM VIEWERS LIKYOU. THANK YOU. C Captioning sponsod by MacNEIL/LEHR PRODUCTIONS Captioned by edia Access Group at WGBH access.wgbh.org
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- Chicago: “The NewsHour With Jim Lehrer : WETA : September 7, 2009 7:00pm-8:00pm EDT; The NewsHour With Jim Lehrer,” 2009-09-07, Internet Archive, American Archive of Public Broadcasting (GBH and the Library of Congress), Boston, MA and Washington, DC, accessed July 22, 2025, http://americanarchive.org/catalog/cpb-aacip-525-cv4bn9z52s.
- MLA: “The NewsHour With Jim Lehrer : WETA : September 7, 2009 7:00pm-8:00pm EDT; The NewsHour With Jim Lehrer.” 2009-09-07. Internet Archive, American Archive of Public Broadcasting (GBH and the Library of Congress), Boston, MA and Washington, DC. Web. July 22, 2025. <http://americanarchive.org/catalog/cpb-aacip-525-cv4bn9z52s>.
- APA: The NewsHour With Jim Lehrer : WETA : September 7, 2009 7:00pm-8:00pm EDT; The NewsHour With Jim Lehrer. Boston, MA: Internet Archive, American Archive of Public Broadcasting (GBH and the Library of Congress), Boston, MA and Washington, DC. Retrieved from http://americanarchive.org/catalog/cpb-aacip-525-cv4bn9z52s