1973 Watergate Hearings; 1973-10-04; Part 4 of 4

it's been the political system and i think about something senator what makes you think that you would be the radio american legal for purity and politics matter what you do i don't think i would be a great american theater what if i did plays some small role it would help out in their area senator well do you feel that you're all have been small yes or if there's no solutions now and what i'm just a massive importance of my activity center or just explained how small you are overhead bin and what if my actions and anyway would cause a deterrent to

ashes of this type of believe it in a small way it would have to be and do you encourage the participation of young people in a similar rosen says uber phone with respect to our election campaigns in the united states and therefore there for you you're telling me that is incorrect or he can what she a lifelong resident nasser she's out with loesser that chino area i don't i never saw i would know the answer this year is the humanitarian yes yes you did and what

they don't believe that she had known him in south carolina politics and you know you talk to her not today sir i think we've covered pretty much as what we call the conversation centered well you know i've been married to was yes or less ability was a white house counsel palestinians an advantage you need the entire meeting with american holocaust an accountant and what particular just that the

gay did you resent her and hiring here and altering or seventy five dollars a month in the embattled president nixon's reelection when he orders if she had any time yasser and you know whether or not it would be made by anyone else who work in their notions of lending her income up seventy five dollars a month all about noses at the bottom of that idea what about this as the handful of what do i tell her away a justification for hiring are probably the same things and then how long he worked in jackson campaign a few months and that you have been basically doesn't want that is correct

what you think that is correct hey julie you have to be an easy as an individual doesn't have you done anything to restore the city's new pontiac <unk> political campaign i know that last senator but you feel that you've really done after i do the right thing not the right thing to do thank you the congressman kramer the last nineteen seventy

elections because of democratic dirty tricks you think the last election because of a best within the republican party in florida we're the truth tellers i think there were many democratic voters was in the area not religious leaders i believe that the split between republican politics her nineteen seventy was a driving factor also believe that the dirty tricks was a contributing factor to this play through a question while you were doing these

things which you've testified today you enjoy doing some element in an online humorist would be improper mean it's just been that the reason for doing these things that you enjoy doing them rather than the notion to hire more of that would really important part of that notion i still failed to find any reason based in nineteen seventy one and your actions on the facts at us at that time to go in and have that are justification and verify i think i know republicans of florida fairly well i'm uncertain the center that sits with me on this committee

usually doesn't subscribe to what you throw out are insuring people are known for a wooden you know sent back the chairman of the committee the other senate business is required immediately and other committees today i haven't had a chance all of the testimony and that's what has a long memory proceedings are trying to pick up to speed on what your international run the risk of repetition how horrible what well thank you you know the committee will

stand in the system and that the committee recess for a long weekend to pick up its dirty tricks investigation again on tuesday perspective on dirty tricks is always difficult to come by politically in terms of how much effect they have on the outcome of any given election what the uk discussed that with jews would go over the washington post that the session was over the second then would go over covers politics for the post and is the author of several books on various political campaigns and candidates including one each on richard nixon and spiro agnew <unk> testimony both yesterday and today the committee seem to be trying to find out whether these dirty tricks or a moderate getting votes for a certain opposition candidate or with disrupting the campaigns of various democrats and you've been listening to the watergate committee travel around with candidates a lot of americans well so to say with the dirty tricks haven't got anybody votes the

soldiers lost a ton of their main function i think has been to to create dissension in the opposition camp that certain and then the i wouldn't think that that deception may be a new hampshire primary lecture any primary was affected in a critical way most of what we heard him to be directed at senator it must be you have no house cinemas has reacted to the various the revolution well he's certainly feels that talk to fairly recently that he believes for instance that the canuck letter word in which room he was accused of making a of the slogans that of french canadian americans and new hampshire with us with important factor in one hand his campaign after not critically that that letter that was not the contents contents of the letter with the lead a good leaning into to make that emotional display in new hampshire which many people said

which was very quietly says he insists bill that you never to cry but whenever they didn't want didn't think he admits that the impact of that of that episode on the press on the way he was perceived by the press and treated by the press on his own campaign morale within his own campaign was very very destructive so in a particular case but we feel very strongly that this campaign with just a candidate himself but it's very relevant stafford's the image the press as evidence that a lot of the window when we close with the impact of anything on a campaign go with that a platoon of a week we do tend to think of it in terms of votes of the campaigns in the mix of of candidates appearances candidate psychology really thinks about so what's going on the campaign how the press pursues him very often with a person's perception is that correct or not that a factor an important factor in the campaign because the perception and reality are things that

get mixed up in a campaign and what the viewer at home watching on television or the reader of the newspaper susan campaign is really perception a reporter trying to make a reality as much as he can the very often it's not that in and testimony in this dirty tricks at for the last day or two there's been attacked again by the committee to try to tie these activities ever feel very strongly the white house or do it cheaper than others and you have sort of a definitive book in nineteen sixty eight and the nixon candidates it was an escalation of the us in nineteen seventy two over nineteen sixty eight but the book though what this escalation woes peters that the most of the resources were greater and the determination to leave no stone unturned with greater and so that was an overkill and use of money news of people in funny things to do and i think that those excesses were with them straighten things like kilowatt pincher family jewels

quickly put under eddie henderson and new biographer and assess the new situation in terms of watergate when a segment on the the watergate hearings and what is a prison she had a beautiful wooded area so going downhill a way most banana can expose of elements were already taken up by the committee opposed to the administration it puts the president and still a crisis of leadership here have not been able to start with his own attorney general is open and we saw this on to the vice president that the commission will hear every week i think he's still fighting back against the war but he's doing what he feel so the only thing you can do on longtime surprising news the un is the chosen to orphans on at the press on the matter of

weeks and i think they're and blaming others instead of attacking the prices we're going to do i think that includes is that turkey needs friends jewels this committee hearings of the subject of controversy says levitt says before they began in my the newest debate revolves around whether or not what they're up to now is dollar exciting in showbiz terms relevant or a waste of time as far as new information is concerned the uk has some thoughts about this current state of affairs and that's forty second day of hearings the watergate committee finds itself a unique an uncomfortable position for the first time today there was no live television coverage the press tables were half phil and even the lineup of people waiting to get in was way smaller than it's been among senators and so it's interesting to have been diminished only five senators were present when the hearing started twenty minutes late part of a surprise after they can be explained by the absence of star quality in today's two

witnesses rubber bands and douglas kelly but the committee faces a more fundamental problem the dirty tricks phase of the investigation just hasn't caught on and maybe it's because last summer's hearings were a tough act to follow perhaps the public is tiring of watergate but many people believe that dirty tricks are a natural part of campaigning natural regrettable and the nineteen seventy two really produced nothing new this is the committee counsel tony lyons mayor says he may yet have a few surprises in the dirty tricks they use some of the republican minority but don't count on it they're for the final hour campaign financing phase this is the committee counsel david berson says albee interesting informative important but hardly sensational the committee's quandaries further complicated by another factor the possibility that the senate may research from october twelfth twenty nine others would leave the committee with one of three rather unpleasant alternatives it would have to cut the hearing sharp expand them beyond the proposed november first deadline or keep working while other senators are reassessing

last summer that the committee's winter of discontent with the third story joe biden will be back on tuesday when the committee's winter of discontent or otherwise continues until then for peter kenyon impact on jan morrow thank you and goodnight from washington you've been watching devil the devil videotape coverage of a hearing of the senate select committee on presidential campaign activities this program was made possible by grants from the corporation for public broadcasting and the ford foundation as the production of the vision of a greater washington educational telecommunications association the euro new moon named it's

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