1973 Watergate Hearings; 1973-06-12; Part 3 of 4

fb oh that these committee hearings do not prejudiced the right to a fair trial but in fact enhance the right to a fair trial i pledge before you begin that i will not inquire in any manner that i know are you suggesting that faith might be involved in a trial vesco is to take off your climate perspective pledge on my part that no refusal to answer on legitimate and that legitimate basis will be viewed by giacometti or this member of the committee as a thinker cooperation i believe in this legislative committee this committee of the senate according to plan to the government can proceed with its mandate is required of a resolution which created without jeopardizing fairness of the trial court either the government or the phone it's my fervent hope that

we conduct ourselves in that way i'm curious meanwhile with ross with the completion of this very rugged of them are still there and in his absence prove the united states supreme court decision case that the committee's acted within limits no one was legally craftsmanship i want me only excellence and go with you think that the lights to the witness like that i would like to

proceed with an opening statement which will think they bought one in the letter over thank you we've all the reasons that i moved into that review and possibly suggest that will be allowed to review and possibly without interruption with the committee will stand in recess so having spent all that time deciding whether mr stearns going to testify and under what terms the bottom up to the

point of holding his hand up in the air to be sworn in and then but for lunch mr stearns a statement to the committee in a moment which is like once again to express our gratitude for the response the public television has had to this gavel to gavel coverage and primetime response and mail has been overwhelming and so it has in the number of viewers in at least one city this gavel to gavel coverage in the evenings as attractive as many viewers as the most popular dramatic program public television as sharma on televisions coverage of the hearings will continue after a pause for station identification on a bridge to coverage of these hearings is provided as a public service of the member stations of pbs the public broadcasting service the the

point terry and pike continues its coverage or hearings by the senate select committee on presidential campaign activities here again correspondent

robert mcneil in this third hour of the hearings murray stands will explain his role in the nixon campaign one that he says was separate from that of the strategy makers and their cover the circumstances leading up to a twenty five thousand dollar campaign contribution going into the bank account or convicted watergate burglar bernard barker he'd been conned also sense the witness first read something like a half a cup to make the remaining members of the committee i'm very sorry that the circumstances of my parents made it necessary for my counsel legal points in order to protect our eye fair trial in new york i personally would much prefer to testify without any project myself into

criminal action in which i feel it in the setting of a fair and impartial trial or on a jury in a request to be vocal the canadian my best in less than two years ago one of those moments in my experience occurred in the senate side of the capitol emi services secretary of commerce so the un the navy are calling on the senate commerce committee are extremely generous and a public hearing in praise of my efforts over a three year period as part of a car and some of the democratic senators even with the success in my new undertaking as a fundraiser but not to much success they said all those comments remain highly valued to me now as much as a reward for the many years i spent in public service in to the administration i would like my appearance here today to be another service in the public interest

the circumstances that bring us together are extremely regrettable but i still very strong mutual concern when you're in this case in establishing the facts and the truth of these matters of national interest for that reason that you know i have cooperated with your staff prior to my parents are today just as i intended to fully with a committee here now my sense of integrity compelled me to do so in the past i have refrained from answering in a piecemeal fashion that raises questions that have been raised by the media concerning the presidential campaign and other related matter for that i had been highly criticized i felt that it was better if i can answer these questions before an appropriate forum in this setting and perspective of the overall situation that's what enabled me to give a complete picture rather than a piecemeal response and this is what i want to do

today to the extent i am at this may help resolve some questions as the witches minimal understanding and much erroneous public information like that they say that i have cooperated fully with every official agencies sought information from me at my place with the staff of this committee wants for the staff about spanking and turns the comedy about three major the fbi and six meeting for the general accounting office they're given a deposition to the assistant united states attorney in washington says the united states attorney in the arkin plays testified before a new york grand jury although this has been voluntary also testified several times but the opposition and civil suits and once of the florida criminal case also during all the investigations which it commands to june seventeen nineteen seventy two all finance committee personnel to cooperate fully intended to report a testimonial to sloane jr

paul barrett judy hoback evelyn hi there martin chambers as evidence that this is being done i am convinced that none of these persons that apart in watergate for the subsequent events whereas will come out mr sloan's recollection and mine may differ in the field respects this is obviously attributable to the passage of time or the pressures of events at the time were subject of recall just as he has given to his best recollection i won't have a lot of the various financial man on the major issue that of involvement in the watergate where i'm satisfied that he's completely innocent and my understanding of the committee is probing three murders in which it might assume that i have some knowledge of espionage charges including the watergate building in a cover up that allegedly followed they saw that the charges including the security operation

and the handling of campaign finance on the three letters i would like to state tests first i had no knowledge of the watergate break in or any other espionage efforts before i read about them in the press or the effort to cover up after the event second i had no knowledge of any suburb program to disrupt the campaign by side ready or anyone else thirdly the best of mine always there were no intentional violations of the laws relating to campaign financing by the finance committees which i had responsibilities because of the complexity of the new law that became effective in the course of the campaign and a vast amount of work that had to be done under the new law there may have been some unintended technical violations by the committee well are particularly distressed in his opening statement

is the fact that this committee cannot effectively evaluate the work of the finance committee or my own activities without having for a fundamental distinctions and mo first a distinction with a main functions and activities of the campaign committee and the functions and activities of the finance committee second the distinction between the election financing law that expired on april six nineteen seventy two an election financing law which was effective on april seventh nineteen seventy two and next within the finance committee the distinction between the functions and activities of the chairman of the functions and activities of the treasure and for the activities of the finance committee before i joined it on february fifteen nineteen seventy two and the activities of that committee after there were fifteen nineteen seventy two but the campaign committee i mean of course the committee for the reelection of the president

by the finance committee i mean the finance committee for the reelection of the president and that several predecessors up through april six nineteen seventy two and the plant's committee to re elect the president beginning april seventh nineteen seventy to go whether associated committees in each time collision with a finance committee is its chairman the treasure was hugh sloan jr until july fifteenth nineteen seventy two and after that treasure with paul ii back i show it for the treasure as a lot with the same individual letting the time period identify which of these persons it relates to as mccain campaign committee and the finance committee the campaign committee had all of the responsibility for the planning of the campaign to the bottom of that strategy execution of its facts the question

is how many people were employed efforts to be expended in each state examination of the relative use of direct mail and personal solicitation and media advertising kinds of appeals to voters and the entire gamut of the political apathy was about the organized and management conducted by the campaign committee their decision's vix be among the campaign would cost the finance committee had not in any of the basic decisions were all the finance committee was directed toward a single object to raise enough money to pay the bill that the finance committee had nothing to say about which bills to him or i know the arrangements in effect the finance committee paid any bills are made any payments which bore the rule of an appropriate official of the campaign committee the campaign committee was supposed to say that the amounts to locate where within the limits of an approved budget

it turned out that the controlled and not working as they were intended in spending over and the budget by more than eight million dollars perhaps more likely ten million dollars so in practical terms of when i'm trying to make is that the two committees operated in watertight compartments they were physically separated on different floors the campaign committee ran the campaign and created that that's the finance committee raised the money and pay the bills there was only one form for the change of opinions with respect to campaign spending and that was the budget committee budget committee consisted of three officials of the campaign committee of three officials of the finance committee formal meetings of the budget committee was recorded minutes did not take place until after labor day in nineteen seventy two and then within families on the get married well before that but most of

the ceremony over among overall amount of funding at the national and state level news of the budget committee are not in my opinion very affected each one was opened by may with a general statement of the current cash position and the expectations of future contributions but in the last few days of a campaign everyone expected i personally these continuously or reductions in the level of spending the actual trend was constantly a poor at times the means <unk> became better and i walked out of one meeting at which i thought there was absolutely no understanding of the difficulties of fund raising on the part of those who are going to spend the budget go to forty million and forty three million and it up in excess of forty eight million at our latest accounting which are not yet completed chosen to be an excess of fifty million

all male a surge of contributions as a result of the effective organization with bill across the country made it possible for us to end up with a surplus of all that now as we plainly old law and the law prior to april seventh nineteen seventy two the controlling lawn candidates for federal officers was the corrupt practices act enacted in nineteen twenty five this act made a major distinction mclean fund raising for a candidate to secure a nomination through primaries are conventions and fund raising in a general election there was no reporting required of any kind on contributions and expenditures to secure the nomination there was a requirement that contributions and expenditures in a general election we reported to the clerk of the house the federal election campaign act of nineteen seventy one which became

effective on labels of the nineteen seventies to change that by eliminating entirely the distinction between a campaign for a nomination ran a campaign for election it required that all contributions and all expenditures in a political campaign the record at all the bill signed by the president on feb seven it did not become effective intellect also because the congress specifically allowed sixty extra days for operations under the old law the distinction that an election financing a nomination financing it existed for almost fifty years and countless candidates for the presidency senator there was a representative of the requirements of the one hand the exemption of the other in nineteen seventy two candidates such offices in both political parties were on the finance committee did not have to publish your file their transactions byard able so

unorganized that reporting committees after that day and the president's campaign finance committee for the reelection of the president had been created solely to raise funds for the re nomination and this committee terminated its activities on april sixth it was not a long required to file reports and the finance committee to re elect the president was treated operate beginning april seventh and others filed reports required by law i we readily acknowledge that our fund rating operated under the old law until april seventh nineteen seventy two we used the sixty day period allowed by the congress under this law the fact the contributions need not be reported it the committee and its contributors a right of confidentiality

the issue of concrete confidentiality vs disclosure of such information has never been fairly presented to the public at the naval clear that the committee engaged in secret and by concealment suspect transactions which would never heard that they've been required to be useful that is not true the transactions were valid and proper and the question of whether they were to be recorded with the question of law that involve important rights of individuals the committee's position all has been a non disclosure created no advantage to it but that privacy was a regular contributor would sicken committee could not properly way right to live without a new infusion of the long respected benefit of the americans as they are for the committee did not release the names of its contributors network also it has never objected to

a contributor disclosing of contribution and on one occasion just before the election the committee released a list of such contributors of the march ninth nineteen seventy two and only after consulting with those making the larger gifts much has also been made of the fact that if you record to the committee before april seventh were destroyed the fact is that the very large part of those records have been preserved and the committee believes that the others can be reconstructed if they're needed but the important point is that there was no illegal act and throwing away any of these records and even though there were retained could have been disposed of not only was there no statutory requirement that record the transactions the horrible some of the preserve it was not even necessarily that any books that any recordings the capitol

at least that's what her lawyers both at the time and that corresponded with what we've been told in the nineteen sixty eight campaign the finance committee to re elect the president on a job to observe strictly all the provisions of the new law that enables seven hundreds its affiliated state committees to do likewise systems and going forward it up to ensure that would be the case notwithstanding there's there have been a few instances in which the committee has been cited by the general accounting office and the department of justice for failure to report transactions which occurred after a closer look many blues that has that other explanations for this small number of technical violations and in at least one case the department of justice's ruling in favor of the committee on a citation and lately is that considering the hundreds of thousands of contributions are saying and bills its record under of operation under a new and highly complex

law that came in too beam during the middle of the campaign should be commended rather than criticize now as to the chairman of the treasury these are the only do statutory offices required a political committee as chairman of the committee i had a partial responsibility for overall coordination of its activities defensible vehicle in that respect with a deal a staff meeting attended by the treasury the comptroller general council in charlotte oystermen working in washington but without doubt my prime partial responsibility was to raise the money required to finance the campaign and i write almost all of my time and attention during february fifteenth the november seventh nineteen seventy two i visited approximately forty five cities in thirty two states to make a fundraising committees groups of potential contributors and individual potential internet

i also met with individual then groups in washington and made hundreds many hundreds of phone calls to fundraisers and contributors and this was not a campaign finance play a few large contributors to ensure participation by hundreds of thousands of individuals i directed a direct mail program it reached thirty men involved and a good fundraising program to reach people and their places of employment based have a great deal of time as chairman of the committee i have no responsibility and connection with ian darryl handling of funds banking recording accounting and reporting i did not sign checks i did not expand that literature special i did not have the cash on it was my regular practice when i took the contributions for the committee to turn the

mortar the treasurer problem i did not a relationship with the bank i did not make a reasonable stream unsinkable and i did not prepare the public report did not renew them except the scanner summary page is the sole responsibility of the treasure that was not only within a working format of our committee but it wasn't what was provided under the federal election campaign this was the responsibility for all day today in rural operation and generally i consult with him only when he came to me for guidance on a specific problem which was on a limited number of occasions well as two before they were fifty the joint committee on february fifteenth last year a considerable number of activities were underway in a number of people were in place fundraising

and campaign activities that they're engaged in almost a year programs have been plan are committed by the campaign people funds have been collected and spurred committees have been formed and terminated and some well publicized transactions that already occurred patterns of payment of a reporter and bart gordon liddy where practice will have like an authority that hurricanes come back and turned over to the committee the front in his possession but those better than they can comply with the law and a receipt you're generally were inadequate people with the body armor work sure to come when i joined the committee the bank balance was about three million dollars and i was still thirty million or forty million or more to be re i did not reveal what happened before but began to work with the problem at hand i did not learn about many the earlier transactions and delay much later

time apple from february fifteenth april seventh i had forty five working days on saturdays and thirteen of these words that outside washington was not a great time with it that aren't on detail i trust are the people already in the committee organization i relied heavily on the treasure because of his previous experience in nineteen sixty eight to nineteen seventy one and even before nineteen sixty and i was at her contributions but i would like to emerge from all this information are a few simple conclusions first the finance committee played no part in the strategy or the tactics of the campaign if they went wrong it was the fault of the campaign committee the finance committee's only responsibility was to raise enough money to pay the costs that were incurred by the campaign committee second the finance committees in existence prior april seventh

nineteen seventy two operating under legal advice that their transactions need not be reported or are reported as a matter of law that within the finance committee the germans basic job was to raise the money in the treasury job was to account for it and disperse and for the responsibility of raising the largest amount of money ever spent in a political campaign obviously put massive pressure is on the finance committee especially those engaged in fund raising in my own case the stress was multiplied many fall weather serious illness of my life which began august ninth and continued in early nineteen seventy three and i repeat to you but i had no advanced knowledge of the watergate affair and no knowledge of any efforts may have been made to cover it up now i know about any other has been under sabotage

activities on the part of the campaign committee i can also ensure that way a maiden aunt has been careful efforts the violence that then intent of the election laws mr stanton chairman chairman sections pursuant to a request by senator whiter if there's no objection so the whiter as a brief statement he liked that might to borrow directly after they're an injection of a white german chairman mike berry in nineteen seventy i gained the republican party's nomination for united states senator from connecticut delaware primary care and of course the primaries campaign republicans both within and without connecticut properly chose

sides of between myself and my opponent it came to my attention that the tree stands in the center of commerce spoke in connecticut because one nomination and a half and on behalf of my republican opponent john lupton is action i know was not an indication of any official position taken by the white house but needless to say did not endear me to miss things god had no contact missions and our secular great compassion for him and his family i do not want to set a fight any person or wondered about why mr stands as to whether my question would be an act of getting even their former chairman i'll refrain from questioning of despair and now or

anytime in the future it is underwater mr edmonson is it not true that most of your adult life that you've been in the accounting business one way or another yes it's true the lower level i think that for eight or nine years in government before in nineteen fifty seven you were going to do and in nineteen fifty two the recipient of the american governors association's annual war and the answer to those are other accounts an award in nineteen fifty four and you were elected to be counting all of my nineteen sixty so you insert yourself really good cow joel coen brothers' films what is your operation announced plans and in the

final phases of winding up the finance committee to re elect president and the previous question i know that look most press clippings of years regarding you that suggest that your a sticker for details and social conservatives i would say they are they're correct on low point i'm a stickler for detail with in my area of responsibility and i am essentially conservative and i'd only been spending more money than is necessary for any that was one of the reasons the campaign people let's hear no problem with fifteen nineteen seventy you with senator obama i'll tell the communities are

overcoming the finance committee what political activities or you're engaged in violent secretary of commerce you may have a relationship to the bombing campaign in nineteen seventy one on a few occasions i met with the special committee after hours as i recall as we discuss the founding procedures that they were going to use in the nineteen seventy two campaign i had no part in the campaign i'm not commit myself to be in the campaign and i was very strongly of the conviction that i did not want to take the midst of a nineteen seventy two when i was about eleven and discuss some of the accounting procedures that would be helpful to us to ask you if you can identify anything

about here this is a poorly written by miss jan brewer a confidential memoranda for the attorney general they date july twenty eight in nineteen seventy one the piece because it's been fort worth doing this because biko with intelligence committee only this is

confidential memorandum to the attorney general dick whitney who is secretary spence political special assistant spent some time with me discussing nineteen seventy one idea which he brought up might be useful in other departments the secretary has built up a discretionary funding commerce that total approximately one million dollars is using this fun for cochran says hiring in other activities that will be beneficial for the president's reelection if you feel it is appropriate secretary stands mike discuss this concept to other chemical to see if they can develop the same time bomb within their own quarters of them mothers like or approve disapprove prominent misses i said that sounds good reader to the attorney general dated july twenty eight nineteen seventy one what can you tell us about that

i can't tell you very much about i have no idea what the concept was a fake it was given based on some misunderstanding or other animal funds in the department of commerce department i authorized forms of the department mr whitney would be the ones who have to explain them well so somewhere somebody is implying that we had a million dollars set aside in the department open election campaign i would suddenly they are all i don't know when i was chairman of the artist's works the ad says we know that lincoln would become a figure of fun as

the finance committee who were encouraged to i guess i became chairman of plentiful and in the absence of another candidate for the job i eventually ended up volunteering to the president in january nineteen seventy two nine your statement you mentioned that there's a good deal of difference between the finance committee and the actual campaign committee oh you do not have anything to do with the campaign committee i had nothing of anything of instability campaign committee of any kind except in so far as that as a member of the budget committee did you on may ten nineteen seventy to write a memo to jonathan mitchell in which she discussed a number of

issues regarding the various shows mr ehman yes i started to write it i wrote under the circumstances write in my opening statement frustrated and upset that level of spending that was rejected by the campaign people and i proposed that a number of republicans in the vote yes now you pretty well covered the whole area to campaign and this memo to new christmas number ones november group on the two conventions three republican national committee for national campaign but you were rather familiar with the operation up campaign committee if you're able to write this extensive a memo ok well i don't think it's quite rightly is that i was not very familiar to all of the operation the campaign committee with their objectives as promised they were going to stand and approximately a dozen

categories in which they were going to spend and i wasn't getting to the polls the moment they were doing this when i was chairman of the members of his own sentences gordon liddy was general counsel to the campaign committee until around the end of march and then he became general counsel for the finance committee and then during his tenure in the finance committee relied on his advice for a lot of legal advice and we are now did he give good advice

regarding the pre april seven operations and those after july on his legal advice yes says one of the sources of the live like this for you where is receiving cash from mr marc warner i missed you slow prior to april seventh i was aware of it he had received a stomachache and i was not aware of a mile in the war on one occasion was that this is a relatively small amount of money i ever heard one point or another they're really saving money and the environment that is the only reason you had it was brought here attention was the one elevator i'm sure you're familiar with this true sloan's testimony before this

committee that he discussed with you a payment at three thousand stability testimony of veterans somewhere around these things the label pages long and the only one in a very substantial amount of money i mean attorneys office and i thought the man was thirty thousand dollars a recall that only big in any event i don't think the money is very important that loans at substantial money money and i said i don't know

a conversation with john mccain both have a short time after sunset flown delta near that normally don't want a substantial amount of money what's it all about and john mitchell reply was i don't know eleven as the road voters in charge of the campaign and he directs the spending ms beiser doing the rebels will pay these amounts are any of us to learn that in addition to those elements that that's right so that's my recollection the phrase of the discussion that took place i went back to slow and recorded the home and found out that he had already thought of it the same

information through the transactions that was disarmed testified to the year with a lot of connections to cover for african self pity have a conversation with like that that really is answered at one more point apparently from the testimony was truly showed up two hundred and fifty thousand dollars against which he intended to go the libyan authorities i think of that group on recollection is somewhat confused because my understanding of it is somewhat different i have

learned prior to april seventh that but porter had a cash london is safe it sometimes receive money from one or more sources and use the debate are certain campaign purposes i objected to that because i wanted there to be only one trader in the campaign and there was an understanding which mr slone has confirmed that his testimony that mr porter would not receive any more money from him and the best of my knowledge he did not receive any money from after illinois how much money you've given quarter after april seventh more importantly on september sixth i

met my attorney during also for the committee to learn some more information about mr sharon's activities after april seventh and a longer journey told me that after april seven sloan had given porter only five hundred dollars and while the committees attorney mr parkinson i have our motivations of that conference subsequently as you know it was developed that there's for abc fifty three hundred dollars from there flown and that was cited by the general accounting office later the wall that the amount was eleven thousand dollars and i understand the fortified us friday or thursday when he was seventeen so i have no knowledge of those transactions are

used to which they report except as i learned that subsequently invested so so we have some conflict in testimony again providing transition and transaction outside don't want to be critical but i believe that memory in that respect it is folly and perhaps confusing they have discussed with someone else to question authority to give money to buy a car i understand you did you know the three hundred and fifty thousand dollars from finance minister gordon strong when that was made in the usa learn a little but more about it i think that mr sloan because back in february of last year i heard from someone i think it was that come back but i'm not sure that the white house would like to have

some of the nineteen sixty eight money that he had turned over to our committee to use for special polling purpose of moment we'll mention at that time and i have no recollection of any other discussion about the subject until after the thrill and thirty thousand dollars was given by michel home of the gordon strong comeback takes full responsibility for the transaction at a later date i as usual at the white house never gotten the money it wanted and he said yes they get three hundred and fifty thousand dollars i don't think it's a material difference a you know recollections of material in this point because i said you were not objected to the i don't know and then it ended and then asked about it before i did not object that when i heard about him i think it was a pretty

proper transaction now the stands i don't want to drag this out i think the committee does want to know something about all the allegations of them made regarding for so called mexican checks eighty nine thousand dollars from a mexican bank account of i think it's time for you your own words to describe what you know about that and what you get about and who you've discussed matters because i don't think the full story of a removal of that one place before visit my recollection of the sequence of events on april third of last year i received a telephone call from bill who is then our finance chairman in the state of texas you said i have it

united states is and resigning in texas as a prospective contributor four hundred thousand dollars that he wants to give it in mexico and united states funds that are now in mexico is this legal i check with our counsel found out that it was legal for a united states citizen to give any foreign funded wanted i call the activity and also a village and also well the next thing that i knew was after april twenty second when i came back from a vacation and at a meeting i learned from mr sloan that on april fifth facilities representative

to washington to the committee a hundred thousand dollars in contributions that it was in the form of checks gone on american banks by a mexican bank that he was not sure how to handle checks of that nature and that he set them aside they're clearly arrived before the change in the law on april seventh he set them aside to talk to counsel for the committee and then so the following week the committee counsel suggested that maybe reagan urban decay and i took the check from sloan for that purpose

when i got back from a vacation as i said i find out about their checks i thought it had given them to counsel i found out that the procedure which i could not have been returned but at this point i wasn't the understanding that people were checks totaling hundred thousand dollars time magazine and i was in prison now on iran i have to say because i had not seen the checks that i see the procedure the checks come back to him but according to the church's came back to him to listen my collection via twenty

five hundred dollars that was imposed on it and he all the money and included it in a bank deposit that was made on may twenty five you live seventy eight not about what you have to do this so called our trip he received a cashier's check knock on a mosque in our marriage it was an instant hit that the word was a member of the early finance committee working in the state of minnesota and the us was a minnesota resident who

also had a place of living in florida and a hotel real plan that i can go over them somewhere around that as early as january and it said i want to know the president's campaign how did a twenty five thousand dollars and you get around and he confirmed that there were in fact there in march on the flow and that a government has the desire to get the money and changed and he decided to make a contribution in because he was a realist unfettered hundred and eight as well as a friend of the president secretary twenty five thousand dollars of money

but in an envelope be given an extra dollar on the fifteenth of march eighteen important records of the bank which also work in areas where director unfortunately on a fourteen million people your ability of affiliated company then you couldn't send them a shell and has continued along the money and animal on the road having in mind a change in the law that would take place in the next day or so andrea's in florida in arizona and that i still have that money i'd like to give it to heal before the change in the law and over again

and the company made no effectiveness so i live in an animal and put it in the safe deposit box in the hotel in yemen you can take your money you accept that as a barber to do and then section on the basis of middle of life or the only reason and it was really a contribution dunes the money goes

the top analyst with a gun and nine and that there were requests and most of the money out of that safe deposit box and a little bit the government because it is that and an interview with an important to washington where he was bill and eleven for a meeting of the state finance people on the committee on the eleventh and innovation in the meeting there were indoors to check on an intimate with the explanation this is the money for member's a full accounting of the sequins of the transaction of their day quickly as possible

the background that this with language but then contributed a voice at him and ask him to determine the counting and energetic and treasure well being and the general council suggested that he take a jet engine running to pay the treasury and the jet now again i can report with the voters said that he did not get the procedure the check back until sometime tonight we received them unfairly were deposited in a bank account on may twenty five hours too and

so we treated that has cash on hand on april seventh and recorded it in the report of the media committee to re elect the president and a monitoring and fifty thousand dollars and that on may twenty five we felt that we had complied with every requirement well as to the handling and reporting that money without a family and subsequently possible violation of the law and failing to report that twenty five thousand dollars but the department of justice in a letter some months later concluded that there was no violation of law in an intimate transaction thank you

it was well after the watergate events of june seventeen shortly after that did you have any discussions with mr john mitchell are in what the white house concerning any of these checks during the week immediately follow i don't recall any specific conversation with john mitchell but i don't recall a conversation with federal and subsequently with robert loggia was the morning of the twenty thirteen six days after the watergate affair that you know we're certainly do his contribution ended up in a bank account one of those who has to make a contribution you said well

it's a subject in the game now and we discussed it and concluded that in some regions we've got in washington on that thing that that will be in a room with martin and the actual transaction data that was mean had anything to do with the checks the checker the mexican checks entering the rocker like how could only have gotten their through the hands of our general counsel many were taken into custody mr

danza i'm going to skip approach on her part that wants to prove or second giving mr fred route eighty thousand dollars yesterday and you had to like you know that was it there's a living as early as april but when she couldn't do it because he was waiting for the return of the proceeds of the area's checks wouldn't discuss the show the balance of eighty one thousand dollars and it was some concern about that because he was going on vacation and under the tense situation with the legal is

between the pay