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over in the illinois primary but the heart monday a race appears too close to call while jesse jackson is racking up a huge black president reagan has lost on the school prayer issue the republican controlled senate rejected his constitutional amendment and if it this way because there's usually say for one more day i will be back for another data suggest that this is the first time in history where we can do this again economy grew faster in the first quarter than economists predicted and we talk to the president's chief economist martin feldstein about what it means and we get a very different view of the economy we have two tunisian we have to return the spirit of the people that has a spirit to fight for the things about we look at the efforts of catholic bishops to create a new economic order jammers off tonight but as he said last night don't get alarmed you just phrasing back in gradually duty workers in washington elsewhere on the newshour tonight the administration issues a new call for emergency military aid for el salvador we have a documentary

report on the salvadoran election day is causing concern at the state department secretary show says king hussein has dealt a setback to plans for american military aid from switzerland the lebanese peace talks that ended without an agreement on reforms and we hear from key participants in a special report from charlayne hunter gault the macneil lehrer newshour is funded by at and t the corporation for public broadcasting and the station and other public television stations the democratic presidential candidates may have a long night ahead of this wedding out an extremely close primary vote in illinois gary and walter mondale were neck and neck in the latest polls and when voting ended tonight all the exit polls said it was too close to call it might even be one of those old fashioned elections where they have to count the votes to find out there's one percent of

users samples of voters show jesse jackson scoring heavily with black voters getting seventy one percent according to abc seventy five percent by nbc sitcom before the election experts had predicted that i have a black voter turnout for jackson could pull black votes away from walter mondale and thus help gary hart the latest results based on very small numbers in so far seven percent of the precincts reporting mondello has an apparent lead with forty eight percent our second with thirty seven percent jesse jackson third with eleven percent illinois offers the biggest bloc of delegates in any single primaries so far and more than six million registered voters it might be a barometer for primaries in the next three weeks and three other big industrial states pennsylvania new york and connecticut besides illinois democratic voters were practicing in minnesota today the home state of walter mondale was expected to do very well and as more results become available will report them in the course of this program president reagan was handed a major defeat by the republican controlled senate today when it

rejected his proposed constitutional amendment permitting organize spoken prayer in the public schools the vote was fifty six to forty four in favor of the measure eleven votes short of the two thirds needed to pass a constitutional amendment it came after two weeks of heated debate and intense lobbying by mr reagan who has made school prayer a major issue in his re election effort connecticut republican lowell weicker led the opposition to the proposed amendment he's the first member of the united states and forty four gutsy centers out there and i had a media which will explain the issue the american people not pre much says it all that's the reason why they turned out well those the swing voters that turned out to be the year the constitution and not the year the bible quite frankly i mean the constitution garment business and leave the bible in religion dollars rove and others vote it is an important vote was a majority vote and disappointed it wasn't a two thirds but you know that's so accustomed to moments are they're tough to pass and thirty three out

of ten thousand currently the system and this un force there was a lot of them but i think it was an elevated debate i think we discussed the issues i just felt that the john oliver american airlines we were trying to what we were trying to put prayer back into the constitution and you know we'll be back for another data suggest that this is the first time in history hopefully we can do this again however a spokesman for the american civil liberties union called the vote a very great victory for religious liberty school prayer was the last of the social issues pushed by the new write in the nineteen eighty election to come before the senate the president had promised his conservative supporters a vote on the issue and he delivered it and just a note today's perfect attendance for the vote was the first time all one hundred senators have been present and voting in five months the last time was in october for the vote to establish a national holiday for martin luther king jr robin the government said today that the economy has grown faster than anyone expected in the first quarter of nineteen eighty four the commerce department issued an early or a

flash estimate of the gross national product it showed the gnp increasing at an annual rate of seven point two percent of gnp represents the economy's total output of goods and services and is used to measure economic growth the gnp estimate was much higher than either government or private economists had predicted and has raised fears in the financial community that it could produce higher inflation and interest rates when wall street took the news in its stride today after falling sharply yesterday the dow jones average is thirty industrial stocks closed up four point three nine points and eleven seventy five seventy seven to tell us why the economy is growing so fast and the consequences of that we have the chairman of president reagan's council of economic advisors martin feldstein mr feldstein why is it growing so fast well it's a very broad role we're seeing increases in consumer spending more sustained creases and i had a very healthy sign why were these not predictable are you

yourself were predicting only a couple of weeks ago that the gnp for the quarter would be about six percent and it's a little over seven no way can be accurate to within one percent four year within a single quarter i think that the other reason than and perhaps that explains why some people maybe misinterpreting these numbers is that inventories of bounce back rather sharply least as estimated and it's very preliminary flash you take out inventories look just a final sales to the government and consumers business growth has been a little bit slower and i think that that in itself is is more in line with what we were expecting and sustainable and carries meaning that people had so what they haven't stopped before needed to replace it does everything went so well reporter for the winners the world we've seen an increase in inventories business inventories in anticipation of continuing strength in the economy fought for commerce often

think it's useful to look at the growth of demand by consumers and by government and business rather than leave out inventories leave out inventories in order to get a better picture of the war return process of the man we do that this doesn't have quite as much steam in it and i think that's encouraging going it's encouraging because i know you said a moment ago there are those who worry but this might contain inflationary pressures i don't think so and i think one of the reasons for being more confident is that when inventory growth has put aside the core part of the manner that grow a little more slowly how much would you attribute to the core argument about seven point two percent well we don't release that number at this point but i would say that we're talking about something more in line with the five percent and forecast for the gnp for this sport so you agree with their commerce secretary margaret you said today this is a temporary acceleration that's right i think the inventory or it is not a

sustainable addition to gnp go on you know it's a temporary you can't be sure that the individual components you look at where the demand is increasing it looks like it will come back down to the kind of five percent growth we've predicted for the sheer but you can't be sure what's more as we've often said these flash numbers preliminary preliminary numbers are subject to a fair amount of measurement uncertainty but the fact that everybody is scrutinizing them so carefully right now isn't it is an indication of the anxiety that the rate of growth my point to an economy that was a reading with a danger of inflation higher interest rates would you agree with with that i think that's why they're looking but i don't think that there is that danger at this point rivaling wage increases have been very moderate the average hourly earnings has increased only four tenths of a percent the first two months combined now

wholesale prices the producer price index was again a very moderate four tenths of a percent and from worry and raw material prices were actually declining them and so i would say that the economy is not overheating and that the inflation situation's quite under control under control what would you estimate a somewhat higher rate of inflation now because of the performance of economists are five issue than predicted earlier no you know the inflation that came out today four point four percent for the first quarter was actually a bit lower than the number that we had forecasts so i would say that inflow which was five percent i would say that the inflation is very much under control and it doesn't seem to be creating a problem or are you just in your hand to submit your predicted rates of inflation for later in the year no i don't think we will now work there we have really had an average inflation for the year of five percent and the

forecast we made earlier this is actually come in a bit below what if they're turned out to be in the next three months another quarter like this one wood the alarm bells then start ringing in your office my sense is that we're going out some quarters which are above our five percent average in some quarters which are below it and at this point i see no reason to ring alarm bells many private economists wall street economists as you know have been anticipating for several weeks that the federal reserve board watching the year the rate of increase in economic recovery may be about to clamp down on that on the money supply possibly write even raising the discount rate many next week view from the white house do you see a need for them to do that i don't think the fed should be tightening any i think right now they're in the middle of their target range that's a good place for them to be at this point and nothing that we've seen in today's announcement or another recent

statistics would make me want to have them tighten up anymore do you expect other interest rates regardless of what the fed does right now like subprime going up after percent yesterday you expect it to continue to go up the prime increase was really just bring it into line with our market rates the cost of funds to the banks but they yeah money that they buy in the competitive market have been rising over the last couple months and so it wasn't surprising when they moved up the primer a little bit and i think that the market really reacted today short term interest rates went up a few tenths of a percent in response to the parent strength of the economy i think that that was an overreaction we had last night in this program or one conner vice president of many factors

however country's fourth largest bank one of those that did raise high and yesterday he was predicting by the end of the year prime interest rate of about thirteen percent you were there seems to me to be awfully high you know i know that there are some people in the financial markets are who are afraid of inflation and reignite that when i look at the facts and what happened to wages what's happening to productivity what's happening to raw material costs i don't see any basis for that fear of the present and so i think that the he to the extent that the interest rates are moving up in anticipation of an inflation dove downturn as the year the administration's chief alarm bell ringer about the size of the deficits going back some months ago now and the need to do something about them are you satisfied with the agreement the president and republican congressman a workout to attempt to cut the deficit by a hundred and fifty billion dollars every three years is that enough to stop the downward trend that you wanted absolutely i'm very pleased with that

arrangement and i just hope that we can move quickly to legislation would it be better if the democrats as they talked about him produced cuts of two hundred million well i'd like to see those cuts before i talk about whether that's veteran not what i really like those to get the down payment actually legislation and whether it's a hundred and fifty billion or two hundred billion i think is less important than making sure that we have something in the way the view from the white house what do you think now you in your columns of the likelihood of getting a hundred and fifty billion connected i think it was before college but my sense is that it it should happen and will happen i think that i cannot believe that the democrats' move so this is something to try to make a partisan issue that they would walk away from a doable scheme a scheme and many of the components of which have already been signed onto by the democratically controlled ways and means committee and other democrats in the house the senate mr feldstein thank you for joining us

and let's have a look at the latest results that are coming in from the illinois primary with now nine percent of the homes are twelve percent of the precincts reporting has gone up mondale is apparently in the lead with forty eight percent of the vote in second with thirty six percent and jesse jackson third with eleven they might point out that the early returns are being counted in chicago itself in cook county where because of his support from media democratic organization mondale was expected to do better which might explain the apparently he has at the moment when all three television networks with the exit polls say that the race in fact is too close to call as more results come in we report that get it so you're a state george shultz renewed the administration's call for emergency aid for el salvador today schultz told a press conference that failure to get congressional approval of the reagan administration's ninety three million dollar emergency military aid package would risk a takeover by soviet and cuban backed rebels

secretary said the aid money was needed soon so that the salvadoran army could effectively provide security during el salvador's upcoming presidential elections today's press conference the secretary stressed the democratic nature of the salvadoran election process the people of el salvador vote sunday for president and vice president of the choices are real and the ballet will be fair the outcome is not a foregone conclusion who ric takes office in june we'll have legitimacy a proven support from the people about the border we and everyone else will have to recognize that that in evaluating our policies and interesting reagan administration foreign policy makers have much at stake in el salvador book the last election in nineteen eighty two with heralded as a triumph for democracy because of the large voter turnout this time charles grassley was on assignment for this program in el salvador reports that american officials had many

questions about the candidates themselves i feel so with those political parties have kept their part of the bargain bins of the presidential campaign and the country's history occasionally united states is neutral doesn't care which one of the candidates wins sunday's election as being much more than that probably as part of the reagan administration's strategy a sizeable increase in us economic and military support thank you

retired harvard one army officer is campaign is gaining momentum that the sounds extreme right wing you have won him a large following here and among conservatives in washington and what the reagan administration has twice denied him a visa because of charges that he's a killer robot of those singers in charge of military intelligence during his tenure he turned his office into a torture chamber and a house and i think that's a moderate explanation of what he did robert why doesn't former us ambassador to el salvador and a leading critic of the administration's policies there is no doubt in my mind having read the evidence that that that the result is guilty of assassinating of the assassination of archbishop romero and hundreds and hundreds of

others mr white is an ultra liberal and he would have like they're doing in a pro communist government here a government which turned the salvadoran people against the united states that mr white mentality so he tries to defame meet and speak badly of my political party now we saw a young charismatic decisive his macho image hardline rhetoric and promises to curtail economic and social reforms have made him the darling of el salvador's where you use their money in actively reached before a rain of dolly's song political party isn't medical brigades through cities towns and even refugee camp route all solid or women and children even the medicine is free

now his own supporters do not appear to believe or hear about the allegations that he is or once was a leader of el salvador's best wines that says to me that i'm a demonstration in as only very recently begun to concentrate the repercussions for possible victims thomas pickering is the current us ambassador in el salvador problem at the moment is a very difficult one of getting the congress to understand the urgency and the need for assistance here there are days when i think it is almost a decade ago the question of whether one candidate over wins the election was probably not significant in terms of there's a degree of difficulty to senators and representatives who are against saving our people but what will happen to the united states to you if el salvador paulson's hands of soviet expansionism if the race on

the murders of president on this is that the reagan administration will try it best to continue that support for the government work that the congress and our allies woo abuse anger right the policy world they'll only the eighties not so for me nor for two or three individuals it's for the people and for the country for my country el salvador today more than ever we need badly and if the people like the democratically i think things will improve a lot i think there's going to be even more understanding and more support we have said in the us the administration as the executive branch of the government to conduct of our foreign policy we will accept the results of free and fair elections here in el

salvador is a democratic country we could do nothing less delhi's own supporters view him as a good deal a strongman who alone among the presidential candidates and save el salvador from its almost overwhelming problem his message is simple and patriotic country yes communism now at in the country militarily his opponents say he is a demagogue with elected democratically will become a dictator on the campaign trail he's on charges that his principle opponent the christian democrat jose napoleon duarte is a communist who favors a gorilla victory a charge that the law's the electorate and editor of the campaign

president is closer at a lot of songs that used to watch it he's an economist i have told the people of my country that the problem we're now having the prices of so sad that would now in it's not easy to sell and the camel be sold by one flows along he needs the bird's version of all the sectors and there's tunisia wiper and proportion social packed packed with different sectors so we are good to go because the problem is that the society has been polar ice from the chamber it was team effort and what they basically would do would be to insist on

the reforms caring for the land reform and other reforms secondly you take a stronger stance on human rights and clearly he would push for dialogue and read negotiations with the revolution ha ha ha ha ha ha lucina cause i believe that he has no immediate chances in the few doris day when the election when i believe that the problem of the country would be weakened condition of the process because he's been trying to do but do it for the country and the actions of force in violence he doesn't believe in in the canals so actually i believe that better be in intensity

on the confrontations and at the end he's going to reform than in the house of commons one is interested in them a political party is in the cities among workers and the middle one in nineteen eighty two they received thirty five percent of the votes cast elected constituent assembly more votes than any other party but not enough to prevent a conservative coalition from dominating the assembly and choosing this song at the time of the election were today with president of el salvador heart of the civilian military junta that carried out sweeping land and banking reforms designer rob bigger role as a very popular support for the reforms were bitterly opposed by the wreckage and in some cases badly administered more dead has many diehard supporter but he's also viewed by others as a tired warrior whether the reforms that may cost him both don't need to win an outright

victory on sunday many observers believe the christian democrats might have been better served by another candidate he says continental is the only other politician with a national following running in sunday's election a lawyer he's held a number of government posts through the years is partly empty cnn used fraud corruption and collusion to like a series of military presence here in the nineteen sixties and seventy is acceptable to the right and his party still has some support among government workers and pacino there was a time when it would be backed by the united states as an alternative we saw don't want it it seems to have passed the bottom line of course is what will happen next sunday like el salvador's next president

the common wisdom is posing a brilliant workday first roberto d'aubuisson second francisco judge you know third but none is expected to win the fifty percent plus one votes needed for our recollection which would mean a runoff in a piece on versus portray what the common wisdom is based more than anything else on the nineteen eighty two election results this time no one really knows how el salvador's war weary frightened people will vote you paint the election will not resolve also widowers deepest political differences the guerrillas have refused to participate in the campaign calling it a fraud a sham they vowed to disrupt the election and continue their fight regardless of which centrists or right wing candidate is elected president the army is reportedly worried that adobe song victory could jeopardize future military aid from the united

states there have been hints in recent days of recruit toby sauna selected from the extreme right to a large percentage of salvadorans will probably go to the polls on sunday at least in part because voting is mandatory and there's a nineteen eighty two the reagan had been a stray jim will portray the turnout as a victory for democracy hoping it'll change the art forgery an image of el salvador's government the the elections of mark antony to in the coming elections but this year i have primarily to satisfy public opinion united states and in western europe and only i know we know that they're that they're not going to affect the reality but also the point is to try to give some international legitimacy to the government i think the analysis of this is purely a show that that

shows purely put on to change to use the united states is completely wrong it's a commitment a deep commitment a hard fought one given the campaign of people in this country to try to determine the future of their own country by going to the voters i think it is nothing more than nothing less than that that tends to be a system in a process that we ourselves say as fundamental to run democratic process is not shows to convince other people but somehow something is going on here that really isn't happening is that sunday's election here is a key part of the administration's strategy in el salvador in el salvador is he president reagan's policy in central america because the administration has focus so much attention on el salvador and the outcome of the presidential election here it could become a major election year issue in the united states that report was by charles clausen as he said the election in el salvador

is next sunday robin turning to the middle east secretary of state shultz said today that king hussein had dealt a serious setback to the administration's proposal to supply a hundred and thirty million dollars worth of weapons to jordan at a news conference trump was asked about the things vegan condemning american policy in the middle east is on principal than pro israeli the secretary did not say as the washington post reported today that he had probably urge president reagan to scrap the idea of selling jordan more than sixteen hundred sting your anti aircraft missiles he did say the united states is concerned about events in georgia the president has been and remains committed to be helpful to helping jordan and it's the security interests and that he's put forward a proposal i think it's fair to say that they're with respect the sting in that you asked about that the president was ready to put on a major effort

to get that route is no question about the fact that it's a statement that it constituted a very serious setback to congressional the chances of congressional approval amazon switzerland lebanon's christian and muslim leaders ended nine days of talks without agreement on major power sharing political reforms but the nine leaders did agree to set up a political committee draft reforms within six months and they beefed up a previously created security committee did try to make this cease fire in lebanon real charlayne hunter gault was in lozano and spoke to several of the key leaders for the last nine days this luxurious and borah weisz palace beside lake geneva has been the scene of better intense and frustrating deliberations since nineteen twelve at least for peace treaties have been signed here but events of the last week have made it difficult for history to repeat itself the overriding sense here has been one of failure

rallying june blatt the druze leader explains this is a big to memphis got of generation of mentality and we're just dealing with a bunch of seen on people because it's impossible just about to widen contain of those poppies again rather than anything that gloomy assessment of the conference was one of the few points of agreement among the factions camille show moone former christian president will leave their days of negotiations says and this contest and businesses in reality is to vote for the heavily solution the government to compromise that question is that with the ocean floors of compromise and something which

which of the president of the republic absolutely not the muslim opposition says the christians want to maintain the status quo ideas should do that what wires that long <unk> were true nabih berri is the head of the shiite opposition the majority group in lebanon he has been the main proponents of power sharing and the separation of church and state to be authentic russell out of the eighties there was well let that that people in south africa right after me cindy looked at the beginning of twenty one of the human being that person about this and i think that that's why i don't know

thank you you mean christians than commission a new solo acts that was the issue that i said the question that was the majority said the question that robison in indianapolis that's the issue occasionally a business instead that's it i asked each of the leaders like mixed to cuba's fire to fix it and that's the area that is that

it had people on the ground going to go along with them in what they were very disappointed that they're going to put the security in the region but her after in these issues where and instead of saying here about it christensen people to the side of the future of the country to me a constitution committee which we look at the government and we should include more people are more space technicians untreated enough time so typically the edge of course in the end the conference

took former president shall moon's advice and set out to study the constitutional problem now serbia to try to solidify a ceasefire in the lebanese civil war and set up to commit is to try to restore life to normal in beirut police said a hundred and twenty eight people have been killed and one hundred twenty four have been wounded since the last agreement was made to stop shooting a week ago today in another trouble spot libya threatened today to shoot down the two american air force a wax planes that were sent to help egypt and sudan deal with a fresh outburst of libyan hostility the awacs for airborne warning and control were sent to cairo after a warplane bombed a sudanese city last week united states that it was as a libyan find in an official statement the libyans that their air force was capable of destroying the awacs planes if they join any aggressive moves against libya a major earthquake shook a five hundred mile stretch into central asian republics of the soviet union today the government gave no reports on casualties but it is assumed that there were

some in the provinces of that is pakistan and turkmenistan there are many old buildings made of clay and mud and the tremors came early in the morning when most people were at home in bed the quake was felt strongly in one city of two hundred thousand people and another in half a million communications to one town of two thousand people were cut off entire like on the other side of the globe and south america police in columbia sc more than twenty and thousand pounds of cocaine in a series of raids in remote jungle site forty people were arrested at jungle processing plant that the police said were under the protection of guerilla fighters of the colombian communist party american ambassador lewis dams that it was the largest drug raid in history the value of the cocaine was pointed one billion two hundred million dollars problem the supreme court held in two rulings today with a person suing for libel they go to

court in any state or a nationwide publication is circulated in one case the court said shirley jones the actors could sue the national enquirer in her home state california and not the inquirer his home state florida in the other case the course of a woman suing larry flynt magazine hustler could go to court and whatever state offered the most favorable laws and deadline for filing suit those decisions were unanimous justice william rehnquist said the first amendment which protects freedom of the press as nothing to do which with which court has jurisdiction over a libel suit today the court also heard arguments in the big money battle for control a broadcast in college football games on television the justice department intended that the national collegiate athletic associations contracts with the three commercial networks that it had two hundred seven million dollars over the next three years are in violation of the sherman antitrust act but lawyers for the ncaa said explicit content so the nature of the business of broadcasting sports events the court has promised to rule in time for next season thirty six north eastern states

sued the environmental protection agency today because of what they say is its failure to do anything about acid rain the state's are new york vermont name in massachusetts rhode island and connecticut they won an order from a federal court in washington that would require the epa to rule on a petition several of the states have had and they were almost two years seeking the reduction of sulfur dioxide emissions and seven other states sulfur dioxide is a principal cause of acid rain which the state's filing the suit said is hurting the health of their citizens degrading their environment and causing billions of dollars in damage to property the attorney general of the state of maine james tierney said that today's action was a last resort so they would take the only actual left open to us and we have the federal court intervene in order the administrator to carry out the law the dude dude we filed a suit today with regret that such a step should be necessary

but our lives on the good faith and good intention of the president ministration has proven was like so indeed in some ways orwellian phenomenon that six states in our country must band together to sue the environmental protection agency to get environmental protection joining in filing the suit are several environmental organizations the sierra club the natural natural resources defense council the national audubon society and the national wildlife federation the seven states in which the original petition filed two years ago sought to have sulfur dioxide reductions may or ohio west virginia illinois indiana tennessee kentucky and michigan robin earlier in the program we reported the latest figures for gross national product showing a recent surge in economic growth another sign of the economy's apparently healthy or in the financial markets and in washington they tracked these ups and downs like doctors watching the temperature of someone who's sick but out in the country another group of americans is scrutinizing the economy in a different way whatever the latest

statistics of recovery they see an underlying weakness a moral weakness and they want a joint land mingle of public station kpcc a minneapolis saint paul reports anna notre dame university it's a place known more for athletic battles that academic debates but a national debate on the economy began here in december when a committee of five catholic bishops arrive to hear testimony from dozens of business labor religious and academic leaders and to ask them some tough questions the duty of the church to pick up those falling through the grass is so to one point one is distributed just this episode about that if it because our duty army able to tax duty the tax for the air the part that's absolutely not throughout the coming year these patients will crisscross america listening to corporate executives and welfare mothers ally arguing the merits

of everything from volunteers and protectionism but as this debate goes on it is becoming clear that there is a widening rift among catholic laypeople between traditional conservatism and liberal activism over just what role the catholic church should play in trying to modify america's economic structure while most catholics have long believed in charities like this one to ease the burden of that for many liberal bishops are now encouraging a stronger more controversy all approach i'm of those who live with minnesota call one state consumer organisations we're going on a mission to be a place to exhort the market for this right now more than fifty percent of farmland is in the hand of less and the less than five percent of the producers minnesota colorado tries to bring low and middle income people together around common economic concerns it's one of hundreds of community organizing projects that receive financial support from a campaign for human development a funding arm of the catholic church in contrast to the cherry model the

campaign encourages poor americans to fight for economic justice steve colette members rally to demand a moratorium on five foreclosures there is pressure from groups like oh i'll tell you as a minnesota law restricting foreclosures aren't organizing aided by a fifty thousand dollars grant from the catholic church continues too many bankers or their lab and other times we need to get farmers in the way we get a lot of the first place with the hammond farmers in unemployment and when people are away but some catholics are troubled by a church support of organizations like coal act which paid farmers against bankers alfonse matt jr is the editor of the conservative catholic paper with thirty six thousand subscribers one can make the influence of this is an attempt to to a divided

people into class isn't necessarily to haves and have nots the rich and the poor and to the extent that the seventies organizations precious to promote the class conflicts class consciousness i think these are no danger signs to do old kent snyder of the campaign for human development disagrees first step to reconciliation is a wreck and recognition the differences and then the capacity to begin to negotiate a new relationship with the power structures and that's what we're in the business of open to promote bishop george spells of saint cloud minnesota sits on the committee that will draft a letter on economics he represents a rural district that has been hard hit by farm failures a local worth it to him you're organizing individual who are opposed to get there we have to to religion we have to

return for the people that are infected with the pledge most americans and other foreigners who are poverty stricken they live in cities and labor in large offices for factories concern for these americans will leave the vicious to consider and perhaps recommend ways to give them a greater voice in the workplace and more control over economic decisions that affect their lives and right now on the west to west germany a capitalist nation there are national laws that say that corporations over a certain size two thousand employees for example have to have half their board of directors elected by the workers some conservative catholics view the bishops letterman go so far as to attack the capitalist system itself but even if it does not believe the bishops have become more politically partisan then religious leaders ought to be and above all i think that they should

get out of the habit of acting like franz former wife linda mcmahon agenda insert establishing a certain details of the gym there are huge rally of competition a brothel and they either be begin to demonstrate their ability as a regional centers will perch i'm maureen sometimes at the beach it's probably sufficient account that are going up sounded like an editorial new york times just following the conventional wisdom of laughter the way in which they carried a remorseless ministration has dealt with the poor and unemployed has been shameful and that will i presume it called to task by the bishops and that may appear to some people as a liberal democrat a sort of procedure in fact you can find it any old testament where it's very clearly said it won't own a field of wheat don't cut corners of the deal at the poor have that our hope is rape to bring to this deep eight

of economic policy or some kind of moral dimension in the debate i think will be happy if we can only bring to the bait the current concern and so the arguments continue only god knows the bishops say how they will finally judge the american economic system but there are hints i think there's agreement that there should be a wider distribution of property there's an agreement at unemployment structure unemployment is not to be tolerated and there's an agreement that we have to stand on the senate floor any any when the bishops issue that the first draft of a letter in november it will be read and debated in parishes throughout the country with a final amended version to be approved in nineteen eighty five its

ideas will be incorporated into the catholic education system and talk from the pulpit and the immense wealth of the catholic church will be spent to promote its practical applications millions of american catholics will be challenge to take its message and apply it to their work and their politics and if they do the impact of this document on american life could be enormous the bishops committee plans to hear for more than seventy five witnesses in private sessions before drafting a letter one person familiar with there were told us today the great precautions are being taken to keep the draft letter under wraps until after the presidential election in november speaking of tonight's election in illinois based on the latest returns from the primaries both abc and cbs are not projecting that walter mondale will win the democratic presidential primaries by a narrow margin nbc is not a colony no matter how the popular vote turns out monday was likely to win more delegates than heart

because i did not have a full slate of delegates running for two hundred and seventy one seats at stake in the primary now let's look at where the early history turns out with twenty four percent of the precincts reporting mondale has a lead in the votes counted off two hundred and fourteen thousand nine hundred and twenty four votes or forty six percent our second with a hundred and sixty one thousand one hundred sixty nine four thirty four percent and jesse's objection is reported to be a sprawling heavily among black voters and seventy four thousand two hundred and ten votes or sixty percent in his home state of minnesota mondale was favored in the caucasus that were choosing seventy five delegates there tonight in another primary election contest in illinois senator charles person the chairman of the foreign affairs committee one the foreign relations committee won the republican party nomination to a fourth term persily whose in the moderate wing of his party defeated representative tom corcoran a conservative a contest among for democrats for their party's nomination to the senate seat

as much if they decide through here to assess the early results of the illinois primary is political observer kevin phillips a veteran of republican politics mr fellowes is now the editor of the american political report a biweekly publication that analyzes both republican and democratic politics mr phelps we just heard that both cbs and abc are projecting this mondale i we have only about a quarter of the precincts and do you have any reason to think that the mondale lead is going to disappear also chicago still going on election night weren't suburban vote comes in later but i wouldn't think it would disappear and it might be trimmed right let it mondale is the winter what does that say to that mean he's now regained the title of front runner i wouldn't go quite as far as walter mondale has recovered he's like in the glory and he came back last weekend were the michigan caucuses the other events that we can after all a heart on super tuesday now he

seems to be taking the lead again but i think we may be settling in a trench warfare user world war one analogy what we tend to make a lot of these results as we project ahead now to the new york primary which is two weeks away another industrial heavily industrial status say with pennsylvania the week after that well mr mildew and butter along some people thought two or three weeks ago and it seemed to be keyed into the urban voters labor power centers of industrial north based on what's happened in michigan and what seems to be happening a normal i think you have to get mondale now the edge of losing the momentum factor in the new york and pennsylvania and if that happens if he wins there i think this thing can go all the way to the california primary in early june how do you explain gary hart here he he won in a blaze of glory up in new england and then on super tuesday did that fairly well and now we see him losing several in a row have you explain the gary hart phenomenon why gary hart's

phenomenon so to speak was very closely linked to a very independent and i hate to say yankee time voters were clearly his bus showings came away in new hampshire and vermont then in may and he's been dissipating abortions in terms of instructions he'll i think that the heart is a candidate who's emerging as been relatively weak himself a relatively weak him will color heartland or and why is that do you think it sounds as if the more we know about him or the voters know about him the worst and that's what was often the case with outsider candidates people like george mcgovern jimmy carter burst on the scene very effectively early they build up momentum that got them i a good position a winning position in new hampshire how long for a couple of weeks they build up the momentum only gotten nominated as the press scrutiny close then they began debate nitpick here and that fit there and it became a question

of could they hold it together and in both of those cases people jumping on or an already ended quite well in the later primaries george wallace in nineteen seventy through it in nineteen seventy six jerry brown danced along on carter's shoulders four five times so i think somebody's heart position has to watch out the media build them up comedian then focuses scrutiny that begins to fall down i know what that jesse jackson we hear those the heavy black turnout in illinois maybe as much as a quarter of the vote he's now getting we saw that sixteen percent what is that saying that his candidacy i suspect the jessie jacksons photos is almost entirely black i think after his huge problems in mid february when they have a high need hope that he won from having a rainbow coalition them essentially why action in america and i think he's pulling them quite heavily like sixty sixty five seventy percent now and i think jesse

jackson is gonna go to san francisco in july was the spokesman of american blacks and mondale doesn't have a clear majority that gives heart of the samina heart continues the whole long the chance to bargain with jesse jackson jesse jackson wants the democrat who gets the nomination have come out against the overall primaries in the south which are the ways in which you a black can get thirty seven percent in a three way race in winter up north the parents out there have been around all jackson was the mega deal so you're saying it looks like all the way california and jesse jackson was kind of a factor regular nice kevin phillips for being with us tonight robinson and i do it and just before we go on let's have another look at the latest figures coming in from illinois it was twenty eight percent of the precincts now counted mondello has forty five percent thirty four percent and seventeen percent of jesse jackson as we've heard today the networks are projected mondale and now a winner we'll be back tomorrow night and robert you good night the macneil lehrer newshour is funded by at

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