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Thank you. The Canadian Broadcasting Corporation in cooperation with UNICEF the United Nations Children's Fund presents. How do you say hello. A series of radio programs by Charles winter about children of the developing countries. How do you say hello today from Tanzania. Our Land Rover seems to be struggling a little bit. There's a good reason because we're driving up the slopes of Mount Kilimanjaro in northern Tanzania. But more about that later. First of all I'd like you to meet somebody. Would you tell the girls and boys your name and where you live.
Now you went over very quickly. The girls were Kilimanjaro. If. That's interesting because that's our warmest time when. Do you have. How do you. People.
I mean. By the side of the road. But. Jane and I have stopped at a small village girl
as you can hear in the background. There is something going on what's happening with these people all those men are playing around like any drums I've ever seen before. These drums were at least five feet high and they're held over the shoulders sort of like rifles and as the men play them. Open in the back of the thumping away here. They're also about six inches I mean I guess to get a different tone. Let's listen to that for just a moment. I know this one is not America
playing an instrument. What is it he's going to be the horn and I should tell the girls and boys this is not just the straight horn of an ordinary Idol but is curly spiral and the man is blowing and it looks worse. You know the thin end of the spiral as he holds it horizontally to the ground. Let's listen to him for a moment along with the rest of you. People come from who are dancing this and I think that all of them from each of you needs to play different and see if they're playing the same. I should say they're coming from.
Would the man play that horn for us without the drums do you think. Yes sir I will ask you. And the man is putting the horn to his lips and let's see what happens. Oh. The drummers have stopped momentarily. Jeanne I would like to talk to one of them if I may with it be all right. You know that today is this man here the leader. Yes he's right. Would you ask him his name first of all let's honor him a hero and his name. Would you ask him what the name of his drum is you know later. Doing his job. What is it made from everything that I need and I'm going
to. It's made out of wood. I should describe for the girls and boys that it's almost as tall as the man himself. It looks something like a slender tree trunk. How is the wood hollowed out Jane. And same with anything is that we're at the well I don't quite joke. I love when you go from youth is that you got bored and then said in dives we thought only that on one site which he beats did. Did he burn the inside it or cut it with a knife. He got to tweak the knife for I would like to know very much if I could play that drum. Would you ask him to flee to the king was about to get a beginning. Those are the most you have public to those who think they can do
very kind All right let's see what happens now. He's passed me this long trunk of worry. And it's going over my left shoulder was a no no not my hand left hand goes down near the. End of the drum that has the head on it. Which is about a foot from my face the rest is projecting over my shoulder I guess that's where the song comes out and I hit it with my right hand. Well let's see. Well this is wonderful. When I ask him if he would play with me. Look to the night. That you were here a forecaster and here we go. We have come as far as we can in our Land Rover Kilimanjaro. We must be about
eight thousand five hundred feet now. We've just crossed a bridge under which it was a rushing torrent of water and we're standing beside the road where there's a kind of ditch down which the water runs. What's this for James. Right from the top of the mountain and people do dig. Into it to be. Found. So in fact then Mount Kilimanjaro and the snows I see on top there before us supply water for all the lush vegetation around us. Yes it was a surprise. For cooking the best thing. For everything. Something I'd like to know as we stand here looking up at that magnificent peak in the other one to the right. What are their names. On the list. People. In their 80s knowing you know just a second and more Wednesday. Jeanne can you tell
me exactly how high it is. Nineteen thousand three hundred info to see. The gold. Room. Which means now in profile that mountain looks to me as though it stretches for miles we have the big central shape. We have the smaller peaks on the one side and the slopes go on. Promise to infinity. You know just what the base of that mountain is is 55 miles away. And so those who are fast in mathematics could figure the numbers square miles that mountain cover is good. An issue. Now. Is there any story connected with Mount Kilimanjaro as there is with so many mountains do we think that when we give. You gave away a mountain for a birthday gift what do you suppose he did that. I think if you give it to her
there's no one to look at it looks like that's a very good picture. Tanzania is changing so rapidly most of the Chagga live in quite modern houses. It's very difficult to find one of the old childhood Welling's and we feel very honored because Jane and I have been nice to visit one. We have come up a very quiet path closely surrounded by thick green growth to enter a small open clearing in the center of which is a well I can only describe it as looking like a pointed haystack with an entrance in front. Jane how is this check a housemaid. ROSEN guess I'm going to describe a house that I think you have never seen in your life. This is going to chug a house which is made out to wooden posts which I stood straight inside and then small sticks we saw around big boats and then tied around with three things and put the dress on top of it tied from the
bottom. To the top. What is that on the very top of this child the house on the outside here Jane. On the top of the house is an old coat which she's used to protect the house from rain to spoil the dress over all the inside rooms joined together it might be an opening for the rain to get through then is that the idea. Yes that's the idea. All right now I originally thought that must be a chimney How does the smoke get out of the Charka house the smoke gets out from both sides of the top where the dress is in from the dew and a small wind. I say how long would chug a house like this last chain. A house like this may last for 20 more years. What about the thatching on the outside would have to be replaced. Yes sometimes when there's a little hole where rain can come through it they put some more grass.
I don't want to be intrusive but do you think we might go inside or yes if you wish. Jane and I are walking toward this child the house now it has a low ground a door frame and a wooden door. It wouldn't be much more than five feet. I'm about six feet so I'll have to duck as I go through. And we're greeted just as we came in the house. I'm surprised to see that the ceiling in here is much lower than I thought watching him outside the house looks to be at least 25. Here it wouldn't be much more than 10 watts up above our heads above water his roof with me and then us and roared for lighting. Why is gift. Jean it's very dark in here at the moment though it's mid afternoon how the house is ordinarily lit and even in. The old my life for a year for us. And she has good small limbs too in which she can use and I don't think it
would be so duck is it is you see. No most of the day I suppose is spent outside then. My thing is that when she's good looking or cleaning the house but most of the time she's raking in the fun so she's outside. Now we're standing on a dirt floor it's quite a good sized room but it's also very full of a good many things till the girls and boys some of the things in this trial. When one side is for the moment flows the six. And the kid to food. I'm sure the girls and boys have heard those sounds in the background. One of them got right in the next room that we can see and crows goats. Is it customary for childhood to keep the animals in the trunk a host. Yeah it's been the custom for a long time to get houses like you know the custom was disappearing.
What is the reason for keeping cattle in a Cheika house on the slopes of Mount Kilimanjaro. Yeah the Monkton mean very little when they get to it to be kept is that to keep them warm and to protect them from these is that it is very important for target especially during the middle ages. Why especially during marriages. Very important for them because they're given their duties. Oh you mean when the girl gets married she takes so many cattle with her to her new husband. I mean it's a real house. I see so I had it backward. Well I know how rare it is to find such a house in Tanzania and I'm very happy to have been here might we thank the woman who owns it as we go out. I know she's very shy. Yes you should do this. Just outside we have paused before the woman who owns the house Jane would you thank her very much for letting us come in. Well quit.
What would be the lowest temperature you would have in your. 50s. What about your heart. What would your highest temperatures be. Temperature. Do you ever. Wish that you had. People. One of the crops grown in Tanzania is sugar and Jane and I
have come to the tang and Yuko planting company's huge estate here just outside Moshi which is just at the bottom slopes of Kilimanjaro. And we're beside a huge field and I mean huge. I can't see the other side because the cane is so high it's impossible. Jane could you tell the Canadian girls and boys a bit about sugar cane sugar that we pledged and said about 15 feet high. If I were to compare it with bamboo I don't mean that it is bamboo but it looks to me something like a bamboo plant would that be correct. Yeah the same looks like a bow but it's much the same. Jane I'm quite sure that this field of 15 foot high waving sugar cane didn't just happen how is it planted this day move the sugar Kinney's is cutting small pieces about one feet and then days and weeks blended into fighters with him and covered with. So if so actually
seeds are not used at all and you know we don't use the body is this deal with the sugar cane be grown only with the natural rainfall. You didn't issue it in fleas very little about 17 inches so ignition is mostly used. Where does the water come from. There were two cell counts from the mountain and you mean Mount Kilimanjaro. Yeah the snow does melt and there's much more rain over the which flows with the three of us. So it's a combination of the snow and the natural rainfall which is heavier I gather on the mountain this year. We've moved on now and Jane and I are standing in the middle of a field that is being harvested but the first thing I have is a great surprise because it looks to me as though there has been burning going on here. Yes there has been Benny the plantations that do think that the cut is one to be able
to pass through the forest to cut the cane so they buy one thing and why doesn't the whole sugar cane burn down. It's only the least burnt. In the stalk is bidding it when they fight. Well Jane the stocks may not burn but wouldn't all that flame hurt the sugar if i also has to drive the snakes out of this. Wait a minute snakes in these fields where we're standing Jane. Yes. What kind. Remember in my. In the background as we talk on the air and you can hear a great deal of noise voices and singing and sundry other sounds. Jane how is this Cain harvested. Events. He's got with a long knife called fungus right from the boat. And then he's got to run into 1/2 feet and contains no should be. So they don't actually need that at all and you know that is
not needed as they're working. The men are calling and singing as I said before. Jeanne what are they calling and singing. This thing is so. That's toasting each of the cutters to go in with the whip and make their way easy. And simple for them. Well you know it's good enough that I could almost grab as you call it a panga. Dip and I could grab a pang and get in there and cut with them. All right here I go. My very first bite of a piece of sugar cane. I could not stand it. Oh. That's remarkable it's not only sweet but it's juicy. As you can probably hear I had to tear it with my teeth to get it apart. I guess you could call it almost like a. Solid piece of creamy colored celery that is as sweet as
anything you've ever eaten. Here you go for another bite Jane look out. We have stopped at another location in the middle of this huge plantation beside you a gigantic mobile crane. Jane what is this crane doing. It's going to be taken to the railway lines used here. From the factory. Why don't they use trucks on the road because they are using metal traffic around them. Yes that is the way it becomes easier for them.
Jane and I have come to the end of our trip around to tell you. Mining Company and we're standing right outside the refinery. But the primaries are much the same the whole world over so. We're satisfied with seeing how Cain is planted and harvested. Jane before we leave I would like one more bite of this delicious sugar if you would you care to join me. Yes I'd like to. As I look up I see snow at the top. You ever been near the top of Mount Kilimanjaro. I have to be there. Do girls your age actually ever climb. To the top of the mountain were you given for a medal or something to say that you've been there.
We do it with. Some flowers what kind of flowers. This has been a program in a radio series by Charles winter.
How do you say hello. Produced by Bill Shaw for the Canadian Broadcasting Corporation and UNICEF the United Nations Children's Fund. We'd like to thank the government of Tanzania for their hospitality and assistance. This program was distributed by the national educational radio network.
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How Do You Say Hello?
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How Do You Say Hello? is a series of radio programs hosted by Charles Winter and produced by the Canadian Broadcasting Corporation in cooperation with UNICEF. In each episode, Winter visits a different country in the developing world and talks with a young person about their local traditions, culture, history, language, and community. Throughout their conversation, they visit various local points of interest and describe these events and environments. Winter also interviews adults and other members of the community.
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Host: Winter, Charles
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