PBS NewsHour; April 26, 2021, 3:00pm-4:00pm PDT

- Captioning sponsored by - NEWSHOUR PRODUCTIONS, LLC - >> Woodruff: GOOD EVENING, I'M - JUDY WOODRUFF. - ON THE NEWSHOUR TONIGHT, A - DEADLY SURGE-- INDIA SUFFERS - HUNDREDS OF THOUSANDS OF NEW - INFECTIONS OF COVID 19, - OVERWHELMING HOSPITALS AND - BURIAL GROUNDSCROSS THE - COUNTRY. - THEN, MAKING IT COUNT-- THE - RESULTS OF THE LATEST CENSUS ARE - RELEASED, POTENTIALLY ALTERING - THE FUTURE BALANCE OF POWER IN - WASHINGTON. - AND, MAJOR CHANGES-- QUESTIONS - REMAIN AS THE BIDEN - ADMINISTRATION ENDS THE "REMAIN - IN MEXICO" POLICY FOR REFUGEES - SEEKING LEGAL ASYLUM AT THE - SOUTHERN BORDER. - >> NONE OF THESE FAMILIES HAVE - ACTUALLY WON THEIR ASYLUM CLAIM. - ALL OF THEM ARE IN IMMIGRATION - PROCEEDINGS AND A GOOD NUMBER OF

- THEM ARE GOING TO FACE - DEPORTATION AT SOME DATE IN THE - FUTURE. - >> Woodruff: ALL THAT AND MORE - ON TONIGHT'S PBS NEWSHOUR. - >> MAJOR FUNDING FOR THE PBS - NEWSHOUR HAS BEEN PROVIDED BY: - INVESTMENTS-- WHAT'S NEW? - >> WELL, AUDREY'S EXPECTING... - >> TWINS! - >> GRANDPARENTS. - >> WE WANT TO PUT MONEY ASIDE - FOR THEM, SO, CHANGE IN PLANS. - >> ALL RIGHT, LET'S SEE WHAT WE - CAN ADJUST. - >> WE'D BE CLOSER TO THE TWINS. - >> CHANGE IN PLANS. - >> OKAY. - >> MOM, ARE YOU PAINTING AGAIN? - YOU COULD SELL THESE. - >> LET ME GUESS, CHANGE IN - PLANS? - >> AT FIDELITY, CHANGING PLANS - IS ALWAYS PART OF THE PLAN. - >> THE WILLIAM AND FLORA HEWLETT - FOUNDATION.

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- PASS 350,000 A DAY, WITH MORE - THAN 2,800 DEATHS. - THE BIDEN ADMINISTRATION SAYS IT - WILL SEND A RANGE OF HELP TO - INDIA AND WILL SHARE UP TO - 60 MILLION DOSES OF ASTRAZENECA - VACCINE WITH OTHER NATIONS. - WE'LL RETURN TO INDIA AFTER THE - NEWS SUMMARY. - THE U.S. SUPREME COURT AGREED - TODAY TO NEW ARGUMENTS ON THE - RIGHT TO CARRY A GUN IN PUBLIC. - IT WILL BE THE FIRST SUCH CASE - SINCE JUSTICE AMY CONEY BARRETT - GAVE CONSERVATIVES A 6 TO 3 - MAJORITY. - AT ISSUE IS WHETHER NEW YORK'S - GUN PERMIT LAW VIOLATES THE - SECOND ANDMENT. - THE U.S. JUSTICE DEPARTMENT IS - LAUNCHING A FULL-SCALE REVIEW OF - POLICE TACTICS IN LOUISVILLE, - KENTUCKY. - IT COMES A YEAR AFTER POLICE - SHOT AND KILLED BREONNA TAYLOR - DURING A RAID AT HER HOME. - CHIEF ERIKA SHIELDS SAID TODAY - HER FORCE WELCOMES THE - INVESTIGATION. - >> THEY WANT TO GET IT RIGHT. - THEY WANT THE COMMUNITY TO BE - PROUD OF THEM.

- AND SO I LOOK AT THIS AS AN - OPPORTUNITY TO QUICKEN THE PACE - IN WHICH WE CAN MAKE THOSE - CHANGES ESSENTIAL SO THAT THE - COMMUNITY TRUSTS US AND BELIEVES - IN US. - >> Woodruff: THE POLICE KILLING - OF GEORGE FLOYD IN MINNEAPOLIS - PROMPTED A SIMILAR JUSTICE - DEPARTMENT ANNOUNCEMENT LAST - WEEK. - SUCH INVESTIGATIONS WERE SHARPLY - CURTAILED DURING THE TRUMP - YEARS. - IN TURKEY, MORE THAN 100 PEOPLE - ASSOCIATED WITH A PRO-KURDISH - PARTY WENT ON TRIAL TODAY OVER - MASS PROTESTS IN 2014. - PROSECUTORS CLAIM THE DEFENDANTS - ORGANIZED AND INCITED VIOLENCE. - THE KURDS SAY IT IS THE LATEST - STEP IN AN ONGOING CRACKDOWN ON - THEM. - THE PRESIDENT OF TURKEY TODAY - REJECTED PRESIDENT BIDEN'S - DECISION TO LABEL THE KILLINGS - OF ARMENIANS DURING WORLD WAR I - AS GENOCIDE. - RECEP TAYYIP ERDOGAN CALLED THE - MOVE UNFOUNDED. - BUT, HE SAID HE HOPES THE TWO - NATO ALLIES CAN STILL WORK - TOGETHER.

- >> ( translated ): WE NOW NEED - TO PUT ASIDE THE ISSUES THAT - POISON THE RELATIONS BETWEEN THE - TWO COUNTRIES AND LOOK AT WHAT - STEPS WE CAN TAKE FROM NOW ON, - OTHERWISE WE WILL HAVE NO CHOICE - BUT TO DO WHAT IS REQUIRED BY - THE LEVEL OUR TIES HAVE FALLEN - TO. - >> Woodruff: ALL TOLD, AN - ESTIMATED 1.5 MILLION ARMENIANS - DIED IN DEPORTATIONS AND - MASSACRES, STARTING IN 1915. - THEY WERE LIVING IN THE OTTOMAN - EMPIRE, THE PRECURSOR TO WHAT IS - NOW TURKEY. - A LEAKED INTERVIEW WITH IRAN'S - TOP DIPLOMAT CAUSED A STIR - TODAY. - AMONG OTHER THINGS, MOHAMMAD - JAVAD ZARIF SAID RUSSIA HAD - WANTED TO STOP IRAN'S 2015 - NUCLEAR DEAL. - HE ALSO CRITICIZED QASSEM - SOLEIMANI, THE LATE - REVOLUTIONARY GUARD COMMANDER - FOR PRESSING MILITARY GAINS OVER - DIPLOMACY. - SOLEIMANI WAS KILLED IN A U.S. - DRONE STRIKE IN 2020. - BACK IN THIS COUNTRY, THE CENSUS - BUREAU ANNOUNCED THE - U.S. POPULATION TOPPED 331 - MILLION IN THE 2020 COUNT.

- THAT'S UP 7.4% FROM THE 2010 - CENSUS, THE SECOND LOWEST - INCREASE EVER. - THE NUMBERS ALSO SHOW - REPUBLICAN-RUN STATES IN THE - SOUTH AND WEST GAINING MORE - CONGRESSIONAL SEATS. - WE'LL HAVE A DETAILED LOOK, - LATER IN THE PROGRAM. - AND, ON WALL STREET, BLUE CHIPS - SLIPPED, BUT THE REST OF THE - MARKET HIT NEW HIGHS. - THE DOW JONES INDUSTRIAL AVERAGE - LOST NEARLY 62 POINTS TO CLOSE - AT 33,981. - THE NASDAQ ROSE 122 POINTS TO A - RECORD CLOSE, AND, THE S&P 500 - ADDED JUST SEVEN POINTS, BUT - ALSO FINISHED AT A HIGH. - STILL TO COME ON THE NEWSHOUR: - INDIA SUFFERS HUNDREDS OF - THOUSANDS OF NEW INFECTIONS OF - COVID 19. - THE BIDEN ADMINISTRATIONNDS - THE "REMAIN IN MEXICO" POLICY - FOR REFUGEES SEEKING ASYLUM. - WHAT WE LEARN FROM THE LATEST - CRITICAL CENSUS RESULTS. - PLUS MUCH MORE. - >> Woodruff: INDIA IS IN A DIRE

- COVID CRISIS. - WHILE THE BIDEN ADMINISTRATION - PLEDGED TO SHARE TENS OF - MILLIONS OF DOSES OF THE - ASTRAZENECA VACCINE WITH INDIA - AND OTHER COUNTRIES, THAT - VACCINE STILL MUST BE APPROVED - BY THE FOOD AND DRUG - ADMINISTRATION, AND THOSE DOSES - WILL NOT ARRIVE IN INDIA FOR - ME TIME. - THE COUNTRY IS BREAKING NEW - RECORDS DAILY TODAY, INDIA - REPORTED MORE THAN 350,000 NEW - CASES AND 2800-PLUS DEATHS. - MANY EXPERTS BELIEVE THOSE - NUMBERS ARE GHASTLY UNDERCOUNTS, - AND DO NOT REFLECT THE TRUE - IMPACT. - WILLIAM BRANGHAM TALKS WITH ONE - OF THOSE EXPERTS IN A MOMENT. - BUT LET'S BEGIN WITH A REPORT - FROM JOHN RAY OF INDEPENDENT - TELEVISION NEWS. - >> DEATH AND GRIEF, IN AROUNDIA

- BOTH ARE NOW ON HEART-BREAKING - PUBLIC DISPLAY. - >> WHERE A SON BEGS FOR HIS - FATHER'S BODY TO BE TAKEN TO THE - CREME TORIUM FOR HIS LAST RITES. - WHERE THE VIRUS HAS RETURNED AT - SUCH SPEED IT HAS FAR OUTPACED - THIS COUNTRY'S ABILITY TO COPE. - SUNITA MOURNS FOR HER BROTHER, - JUST 45 YEARS OLD. - COVID IS CLAIMING EVERY YOUNGER - VICTIMS. - HE WAS A HOSPITAL WORKER, WHERE - PATIENTS LIE IN MAKE SHIFT WARD, - WHERE EVERY LIFE HANGS BY THE - SLENDER THREAD OF AN OXYGEN TUBE - IN A LAND WHERE OXYGEN IS JUST - ONE MORE FATAL SHORTAGE. - IT BRINGS PANIC AND FUELS - SOARING BLACK MARKET PRICES. - WE MET A FAMILY OF SANJIT.

- IS HE STRUGGLING TO BREATHE IN - THE BACK OF THIS CAR. - THEY FINALLY SECURED OXYGEN FOR - HIM BUT IT PROVES TO BE TOO - LATE. - WE HAVE DRIVEN HERE AND THERE - AND EVERYWHERE TO FIND HELP, - SAID HIS BROTHER. - THEIR MOTHER CANNOT BE CONSOLED. - IF WE HAD OXYGEN IN TIME, HE - WOULD HAVE SURVIVED, HE SAYS. - BUT THE HOSPITAL COULDN'T GET - HIM ANY. - >> THE HEALTH-CARE SYSTEM IS IN - CRISIS, I WILL SAY THAT. - WE ARE SHORT OF OXYGEN. - WE ARE SHORT OF NORMAL BASED - VENTILATORS, MEDICINE, THERE IS - A. - >> AND IN THE COUNTRY THAT IS - HOME TO THE WORLD'S BIGGEST - MANUFACTURER OF VACCINE, TOO - OFTEN THERE IS NONE. - IN MUM BUY TODAY CROWD-- MUMBAI - CROWD QUEUEED FOR WITHOUT REGARD - TO SOCIAL DISTANCE. - AID FROM OVERSEAS, VENTILATORS

- AND MACHINES TO MAKE OXYGEN WILL - ARRIVE TOMORROW IT CAN'T COME - TOO SOON FOR THIS YOUNG WOMAN, - DENIED A BED AT A HOSPITAL IN - DELHI AND LEFT INSTEAD TO THE - CARE OF HER FAMILY ON THE - PAVEMENT OUTSIDE. - TO T A NATION IN SHOCK. - CRYING OUT FOR HELP. - >> THAT REPORT - >> Brangham: THAT WAS JOHN RAY, - OF INDEPENDENT TELEVISION NEWS. - NOW, LET'S FOCUS MORE - LET'S TALK A LITTLE BIT MORE - ABOUT INDIA'S CRISIS AND WHAT - THE U.S. MIGHT DO TO HELP. - I'M JOINED BY DR. ASHISCHE J - WHAT. - DR. JHA ALWAYS GREAT TO YOU HAVE - BACK ON THE NEWSHOUR, WE HEARD A - YOUNG DOCTOR IN THAT REPORT - DESCRIBE HOW THE SYSTEM, THE - OVERALL DETERIORATION IN EVERY - SECTOR OF INDIA'S PUBLIC HEALTH - SYSTEM. - YOU'VE SAID THAT THE MEDICAL - SYSTEM THERE IS ON THE BRINK OF - COLLAPSE. - WHAT MIGHT THAT LOOK LIKE IF - THAT WERE TO HAPPEN? - >> YEAH, WILLIAM, THIS IS A VERY - DIFFICULT SITUATION THAT INDIA

- FINDS ITSELF IN. - THERE HAS BEEN CHRONIC - UNDERINVESTMENT BOTH IN THE - ALTH CARE AND PUBLIC HEALTH - SYSTEM OF INDIA. - IT WAS NOT READY TO COPE WITH A - CRISIS OF THIS SIZE. - AND WHAT THAT MEANS IS THAT - HOSPITAL BEDS ARE RUNNING OUT, - DOCTORS AND NURSES ARE GETTING - INFECTED AT ALARMING RATES AND - OBVIOUSLY THAT MEANS THAT FOR - PEOPLE WHO HAVE COVITHERE IS - NO PLACE TO GET CAR. - BUT IT IS ALSO A TRAGEDY FOR - EVERYBODY ELSE WHO NEEDS HEALTH - CARE, IF YOU HAVE A HEART ATTACK - OR A STROKE OR GET INTO A CAR - ACCIDENT. - THERE REALLY ISN'T A RECOURSE. - IT IS A SYSTEM THAT IS ON THE - BRINK OF COLLAPSING AND IT WILL - HAVE HUGE HEALTH AFFECTS AND - OVER TYPES OF EFFECTS FOR LONG - PERIODS OF TIME. - >> AND IF AS YOU AND OTHERS HAVE - ARGUED THAT INDIA'S ALREADY - ASTRONOMICALLY HIGH NUMBER OF - INFECTIONS IS AN UNDERCOUNT, - THOSE STRESSED OUT HOSPITALS - HAVEN'T EVEN SEEN THE WORST OF - IT YET. - >> THAT'S WHAT I AM WORRIED - ABOUT. - I THINK THAT THERE IS NOT YET A - REALIZATION, CERTAINLY AMONG - INDIAN POLICY MAKERS THAT THIS

- IS NOW TURNING AROUND QUICKLY. - ONE OF THE THINGS WE LEARNED - FROM THE SURGES IN THE UNITED - STATES IS YOU SEE INFECTIONS - RISE AND HOSPITALIZATIONS FOLLOW - 7 TO 10 DAYS LATER AND DEATH - FOLLOWS A COUPLE OF WEEKS AFTER - THAT. - INDIA IS STILL SEEING INCREASING - NUMBERS OF INFECTION. - HOSPITALIZATIONS ARE GOING TO - CONTINUE RISING AND THE PROBLEM - IS THERE ARE NO HOSPITAL BEDS. - AND THE WAVE OF PATIENTS WILL - CONTINUE AND UNLESS WE EXPAND - CAPACITY SUBSTANTIALLY, THOSE - PATIENTS WILL HAVE NO PLACE TO - GO. - >> Brangham: WE HAVE SPENT A - LONG TIME DISSECTING WHAT WENT - WRONG WITH THE U.S. RESPONSE AND - WHAT COST SO MANY LIVES HERE. - DO YOU HAVE A GOOD SENSE OF HOW - INDIA GOT TO TODAY? - MEANING COULD THIS HAVE BEEN - PREVENTED? - >> IT ABSOLUTELY COULD HAVE BEEN - PREVENTED. - IT'S FRUSTRATING TO WATCH WHAT - HAPPENED BECAUSE IN SO MANY WAYS - THE GOVERNMENT OF INDIA MADE - EXACTLY THE SAME MISTAKES THAT - OTHER COUNTRIES INCLUDING OTHERS - MADE LAST YEAR. - YOU KNOW, NUMBERS OF INFECTIONS - HAD COME WAY DOWN, BY JANUARY OR - EARLY FEBRUARY, AND IT WAS A - SENSE THAT INDIA HAD SHOW BATEEN

- COVID BUT WHEN THE INFECTIONS - STARTED RAISING AGAIN, PARTLY - BECAUSE THINGS OPENED UP, THE - GOVERNMENT HAD LARGE POLITICAL - RALLIES, THERE WAS THE MAJOR - RELIGIOUS FESTIVAL WHERE - MILLIONS OF PEOPLE CAME TOGETHER - IN ONE CITY. - AND INFECTION NUMBERS WERE - RISING AND THERE WAS DENIAL. - AND IT WAS ONLY WHEN IT WAS NO - LONGER POSSIBLE TO DENY THE - FLOOD OF VERY, VERY SICK - PATIENTS THAT THE GOVERNMENT HAS - COME TO ACKNOWLEDGE THAT THIS - REALLY IS A CRISIS. - BUT MANY OF US HAVE BEEN - WATCHING THIS FOR MONTHS, THE - LAST TWO MONTHS AND TRYING TO - SOUND THE ALARM. - BUT UNFORTUNATE LEIGH IT HAS NOT - BEEN MET WITH AN EFFECTIVE - RESPONSE. - >> SO THE U.S. IN THE LAST TWO - DAYS HAVE ANNOUNCED IT IS GOING - TO TRY TO HELP OUT. - IT IS GOING TO RELEASE SOME OF - ITS ASTRAZENECA VACCINE WE HAVE - BEEN SITTING ON, THAT MAY TAKE - MONTHS TO GET TO INDIA. - HELP WITH OXYGEN SUPPLIES, - THERAPEUTICS, PERSONAL - PROTECTIVE GEAR. - THESE ARE ALL THINGS YOU ARGUE - THE U.S. SHOULD HAVE BEEN DOING. - DO YOU THINK THIS STEPS WILL - HELP IN A SUBSTANTIAL WAY?

- >> I DO. - I DO. - OF COURSE THE SIZE OF THE - PROBLEM IS ENORMOUS. - AND NO ONE COUNTRY, NOT EVEN THE - UNITED STATES ALONE CAN DO IT. - BUT THE UNITED KINGDOM, GERMANY, - THE SAUDIS, OTHERS HAVE ALSO - STEPPED UP TO OFFER HELP. - INDIA HAS A LOT OF INTERNAL - CAPACITY THAT IT CAN ALSO START - MOBILIZING. - ALL OF THIS PUT TOGETHER, I - REALLY DO THINK IT MAKES A - SUBSTANTIAL DIFFERENCE. - BUT EVERYBODY NEEDS TO BE - PITCHING IN. - THE SIZE OF INDIA'S PROBLEM IS - REALLY ASTRONOMICAL AND NO ONE - PERSON, NO ONE COUNTRY ALONE IS - GOING TO BE ABLE TO SOLVE THIS. - >> THERE IS OBVIOUSLY A MORAL - CASE TO BE MADE FOR WHY WE - SHOULD HELP A COUNTRY IN SUCH - DIRE STRAITS, BUT THERE IS ALSO, - GIVEN THE WAY THESE VARIANTS ARE - SPREADING, THERE IS ALSO A - PUBLIC HEALTH CASE TO BE MADE - THAT WE NEED TO HELP EVERYONE - GET A HANDLE ON THIS. - >> YEAH, ABSOLUTELY. - ONE OF THE THINGS TO REMEMBER, - THIS IS A GLOBAL PANDEMIC. - AND THINGS THAT HAPPEN IN ONE - PLACE SPREAD QUICKLY.

- IF YOU THINK ABOUT THE VARIANTS - THAT HAVE ARISEN OUT OF SOUTH - AFRICA OR BRAZIL OR THE U.K., - THEY'RE ALL HERE IN THE UNITED - STATES. - THEN WE HAVE SEEN NEW VARIANTS - OUT OF INDIA ALSO IN THE UNITED - STATES. - AND THIS IS THE REALITY OF A - DPLOBBALLIZED WORLD. - SO THERE ARE MANY, MANY REASONS - TO HELP INDIA, CERTAINLY A MORAL - ONE, A CERTAIN GEO POLITICAL - ONE. - BUT ALSO THE SIMPLE FACT THAT - YOU HAVE GOT A LOT OF - OPPORTUNITY FOR INFECTIONS IN - INDIA, A LOT OF OPPORTUNITY FOR - MORE VAR YANSES MU TAITIONS, - THATTIC MASS THE WORLD LESS - SAFE. - SO WHATEVER YOUR REASON FOREIGN - GAGING, THE KEY IS WE ALL HAVE - TO ENGAGE AND BRING I FEKS - NUMBERS WAY DOWN. - >> LASTLY, THE TEN DEMOCRATIC - SENATORS HAVE URGED THE BIDEN - ADMINISTRATION TO WAIVE - TEMPORARILY THE INTELLECTUAL - PROPERTY RITES FOR CERTAIN - VACCINES. - KNOW THAT THE PRIME MINISTER - MENTIONED THAT PRESIDENT BIDEN - TODAY, DO YOU THINK THAT WOULD - HELP IF WE OSENED THOSE - RESTRICTIONS TO ALLOW OTHER - PEOPLE TO MAKE MORE VACCINE? - WOULD THAT HELP INDIA TODAY?

- >> YOU KNOW, I THINK THE - INTELLECTUAL PROPERTY ISSUE IS - IMPORTANT, IT CERTAINLY IS PART - OF IT. - BUT I WORRY THAT WE'RE GETTING - DISTRACTED BY THIS. - THIS IS NOT THE BIGGEST - CONSTRAINT. - IF WE RELAX ALL IT RIGHTS I - DON'T THINK IT WOULD ADD MUCH TO - VACCINE TO THE GLOBAL SUPPLY. - WE NEED TO BUILD OUT CAPACITY. - VACCINES ARE HARD THINGS TO - MAKE. - AND THE INTELLECTUAL PROPERTY IS - NOT THE BIGGEST THING HOLDING US - BACK. - THERE IS A LOT OF OTHER WORK. - BUT I THINK THE BIDEN - ADMINISTRATION SHOULD BE TAKING - ON AND EXPANDING CAPACITY. - SO I WANT TO RELAX THOSE IT - STANDARDS BUT I DON'T WANT TO - THINK THAT THAT IS SHOW GOING TO - SOLVE THESE ISSUES. - >> ALL RIGHT, DR. ASHISCHE RHA, - ALWAYS GOOD TO SIGH, THANK YOU. - >> Woodruff: IN FEBRUARY, - PRESIDENT BIDEN ANNOUNCED PLANS

- TO WIND DOWN ¡REMAIN IN MEXICO,' - THE NAME GIVEN TO THE TRUMP - ADMINISTRATION POLICY THAT - FORCED TENS OF THOUSANDS OF - ASYLUM SEEKERS TO WAIT IN MEXICO - WHILE IMMIGRATION COURTS - CONSIDERED THEIR CASES. - BUT THOUSANDS OF ASYLUM SEEKERS - ARE STILL WAITING IN MEXICO AND - EVEN THOSE WHO'VE BEEN ALLOWED - INTO THE U.S. HAVE AN UNCERTAIN - FUTURE. - AMNA NAWAZ HAS OUR REPORT FROM - EL PASO, TEXAS. - >> Nawaz: AFTER YEARS OF WAITING - IN MEXICO, THESE ASYLUM SEEKERS' - FIRST STOP IN THE U.S. IS HERE, - IN EL PASO, TEXAS. - AMONG THEM, 40 YEAR OLD H, FROM - GUATEMALA. - WE'RE USING JUST HER FIRST - INITIAL TO PROTECT HER. - SHE TOLD ME HOW DIFFICULT HER - JOURNEY HAD BEEN. - H WAS AMONG THE THOUSANDS OF - PEOPLE STUCK IN M.P.P.-- THE - MIGRANT PROTECTION PROTOCOL - PROGRAM. - LAUNCHED BY FORMER PRESIDENT - TRUMP, IT FORCED PEOPLE SEEKING - ASYLUM TO REMAIN IN MEXICO, - WHILE THEIR COURT CASES UNFOLDED - IN THE U.S. - THOSE CASES GROUND TO A HALT IN - THE PANDEMIC, LEAVING H AND HER

- TEENAGE SON, WHO FLED GANG - VIOLENCE, STRANDED IN CIUDAD - JUAREZ. - DID YOU HAVE ANY IDEA WHEN YOU'D - BE ALLOWED TO COME TO THE U.S.? - >> ( translated ): NOT REALLY. - THEY ONLY TOLD US THAT IF WE - WANTED TO ENTER, WE'D BE GOING - TO COURT, THEY'D GIVE US THE - DATE ON WHEN TO BE THERE AND - RETURN. - THAT WAS THE EXPECTATION OF US. - >> Nawaz: BUT IN FEBRUARY, - PRESIDENT BIDEN PRIORITIZED - 25,000 ACTIVE M.P.P. CASES FOR - PROCESSING, TRYING TO WIND DOWN - HIS PREDECESSOR'S POLICY. - >> I MAKE NO APOLOGIES FOR - ENDING PROGRAMS THAT DID NOT - EXIST BEFORE TRUMP BECAME - PRESIDENT THAT HAVE AN - INCREDIBLY NEGATIVE IMPACT ON - THE LAW, INTERNATIONAL LAW, AS - WELL AS ON HUMAN DIGNITY. - >> Nawaz: H WAS AMONG THOSE - CASES. - SHE WAS SCREENED BY U.S. - OFFICIALS, TESTED FOR COVID, AND - BROUGHT TO THIS SHELTER IN - TEXAS. - BUT SHE ARRIVED ALONE. - A YEAR EARLIER, SHE TELLS US, - HER TEENAGE SON DECIDED HE - COULDN'T WAIT IN LIMBO ANYMORE, - AND DECIDED TO CROSS THE BORDER - ON HIS OWN, WITHOUT TELLING HER. - HOW LONG WAS IT BEFORE YOU KNEW - THAT HE'D SAFELY MADE IT INTO

- THE U.S? - >> ( translated ): FOR THREE - DAYS, I DIDN'T KNOW ANYTHING. - HE WAS ALONE, ALL ON HIS OWN, - ONLY 17, JUST A KID. - >> Nawaz: RUBEN GARCIA IS THE - DIRECTOR HERE AT ANE, A VOLUNTER - NETWORK THAT OFFERS SUPPORT TO - REFUGEES AND MIGRANTS. - HE'S DONE THIS WORK FOR 40 - YEARS, AND MET RECENTLY WITH - HOMELAND SECURITY SECRETARY - ALEJANDRO MAYORKAS ON HIS VISIT - TO EL PASO. - GARCIA SAYS HE WELCOMES BIDEN'S - UNWINDING OF M.P.P., WHICH HE - CALLS SO FAR VERY ORDERLY. - EVERY DAY, HE RECEIVES ABOUT 120 - PEOPLE WITH M.P.P. CASES AT HIS - SHELTER. - >> WHEN THEY FIRST ARRIVED - THERE, THEY'RE DESPERATE TO GET - TO THEIR FAMILIES AND TO SAY - THIS PART IS NOW OVER. - AND FOR MANY OF THEM, IT'S BEEN - A NIGHTMARE BECAUSE THEY'VE HAD - TO LEARN TO SURVIVE IN A FOREIGN - ENVIRONMENT, IN AN ENVIRONMENT - WHERE THERE IS A CERTAIN LEVEL - OF RISK AND DANGER. - >> Nawaz: BUT HE WARNS THERE IS - A LONG, UNCERTAIN ROAD AHEAD. - >> NONE OF THESE FAMILIES HAVE - ACTUALLY WON THEIR ASYLUM CLAIM.

- ALL OF THEM ARE IN IMMIGRATION - PROCEEDINGS AND A GOOD NBER OF - THEM ARE NOT GOING TO WIN THEIR - ASYLUM CLAIM AND ARE GOING TO - FACE DEPORTATION AT SOME DATE IN - THE FUTURE. - >> Nawaz: THE BIDEN - ADMINISTRATION IS NOW MOVING - PEOPLE WITH M.P.P. CASES THROUGH - MULTIPLE PORTS OF ENTRY-- - BROWNSVILLE, EL PASO, LAREDO, - HIDALGO, AND SAN DIEGO. - EAGLE PASS, TEXAS LAST WEEK - BECAME THE SIXTH PORT OF ENTRY - PROCESSING M.P.P. CASES. - SO FAR, THEY'VE PROCESSED MORE - THAN 7,000 CASES. - MEANING MANY THOUSANDS MORE - STILL REMAIN IN MEXICO. - AMONG THEM, DIOSMANY. - HE'S BEEN WAITING IN NOGALES FOR - TWO YEARS. - >> ( translated ): THE - GOVERNMENT DOESN'T GIVE YOU AN - EXACT DATE OF WHEN YOU WOULD BE - ABLE TO ENTER OR WHEN YOUR NEXT - COURT APPEARANCE WOULD BE OR - WHEN YOU HAVE TO ENTER THE U.S. - TO STAND IN FRONT OF A JUDGE. - NOTHING.

- >> Nawaz: DIOSMANY AND HIS WIFE - LIDSAY SAY THEY FLED POLITICAL - PERSECUTION AND THREATS IN CUBA - AND ASKED FOR ASYLUM AFTER - CROSSING THE U.S. BORDER. - FORCED TO WAIT IN MEXICO, HE - SAYS THEY FACED NEW THREATS. - >> ( translated ): THERE'S - ORGANIZED CRIME, THE MAFIA, - PEOPLE WHO ASSAULT YOU, PEOPLE - WHO RAPE WOMEN. - EVERYTHING. - I AM FEARFUL DAY IN AND DAY OUT. - I HARDLY EVER LEAVE MY HOUSE. - >> Nawaz: FEARFUL OF STAYING, - THE COUPLE TRIED AGAIN TO ENTER - THE U.S. THIS TIME, OSMANY'S - WIFE WAS ALLOWED TO STAY IN THE - U.S. BUT HE WAS SENT BACK TO - MEXICO. - >> ( translated ): IN SEPARATING - ME FROM MY WIFE, ALLOWING HER - INTO THE U.S. AND DEPORTING ME, - THE U.S. DOESN'T REALIZE THAT - I'M IN THE SAME GRAVE DANGER AS - SHE IS. - >> Nawaz: WHILE DIOSMANY WAITS - IN MEXICO, AND THE BORDER IS - OFFICIALLY “CLOSED,” U.S. - OFFICIALS ARE SEEING RECORD - NUMBERS OF BORDER CROSSINGS. - ACCORDING TO CUSTOMS AND BORDER - PROTECTION, THAT NUMBER HAS BEEN - GROWING RAPIDLY THIS YEAR TO - MORE THAN 170,000 IN MARCH, A

- 15-YEAR HIGH. - RECIDIVISM IS HIGH, MOST PEOPLE - CROSSING ARE SINGLE ADULTS, AND - MOST ARE IMMEDIATELY TURNED BACK - ACROSS THE BORDER UNDER A - PANDEMIC-RELATED RULE, BUT SOME, - LIKE DIOSMANY'S WIFE, ARE BEING - ALLOWED TO STAY IN THE U.S. AND - PURSUE ASYLUM CLAIMS. - >> WHETHER YOU ENTER IRREGULARLY - BETWEEN PORTS OR WHETHER YOU - WAIT AND PRESENT AT A PORT OF - ENTRY, YOU'RE SUPPOSED TO HAVE - ACCESS TO ASYLUM. - AND FOR THE PAST TWO YEARS, THAT - THAT REALLY HASN'T BEEN TRUE. - >> Nawaz: ALEX MILLER IS - MANAGING ATTORNEY OF THE BORDER - ACTION TEAM AT THE FLORENCE - PROJECT, A LEGAL SERVICES - ORGANIZATION BASED IN ARIZONA. - SHE'S WORKING ON DIOSMANY'S - CASE, AMONG OTHERS. - >> THE PORTS OF ENTRY ARE CLOSED - TO THE VAST MAJORITY OF ASYLUM - SEEKERS IN DANGER IN MEXICO. - WHAT THAT MEANS THEN IS THEY SEE - THIS INCREASE IN INDIVIDUALS WHO - ARE ACTUALLY SUCCEEDING, THAT - ARE DECIDING TO CROSS THROUGH - THE DESERT OR OVER A WALL OR - THROUGH RIVERS AND THAT ARE - ACTUALLY ENTERING THE UNITED - STATES. - AND THEY THINK, OKAY, WELL, - MAYBE I SHOULD JUST TRY.

- THAT COULD BE ME, O. - >> Nawaz: BUT THE DATA SHOWS, - EVEN THOUGH MORE PEOPLE IN TOTAL - HAVE BEEN GRANTED ASYLUM IN - RECENT YEARS, DENIAL RATES HAVE - ALSO SOARED, FROM AROUND 54% IN - 2016, TO A RECORD-HIGH 71% BY - THE END OF 2020. - NUMBERS REVEAL THE ODDS OF - WINNING AN ASYLUM CASE DEPEND - HEAVILY ON HAVING A LAWYER AND - COUNTRY OF ORIGIN, WITH THOSE - FROM HONDURAS, GUATEMALA, AND - MEXICO HAVING THE LEAST SUCCESS. - EVEN AS ASYLUM RULES HAVE - NARROWED, THE FORCES CAUSING - PEOPLE TO EMIGRATE HAVE ONLY - GOTTEN WORSE. - >> THINGS ARE NOT GOING TO - CHANGE UNTIL WE ADDRESS THEM AT - THE ROOT CAUSE. - >> Nawaz: DEMOCRATIC - CONGRESSWOMAN VERONICA ESCOBAR - REPRESENTS TEXAS'S 16th - DISTRICT, WHICH INCLUDES EL - PASO. - >> WE'VE GOT TO ADDRESS THE ROOT - CAUSES IN TERMS OF CLIMATE, THE - CLIMATE CRISIS, DRUGS, CRIMINAL - ACTIVITY IN NEIGHBORING - COUNTRIES, CRUSHING POVERTY. - THE MORE THAT YOU CLOSE OFF - LEGAL AVENUES FOR PEOPLE TO TRY - TO GET IN THROUGH LEGAL - PROCESSES, YOU'RE GOING TO SEE - AN INCREASE IN IRREGULAR - CROSSING OR UNDOCUMENTED - CROSSING. - >> Nawaz: THOSE WHO MAKE IT INTO - THE U.S. FACE ANOTHER PART OF

- THE BROKEN SYSTEM. - WITH SO MANY CASES AND SO FEW - PEOPLE TO PROCESS THEM, IT CAN - TAKE YEARS TO STAND BEFORE A - JUDGE. - >> THAT IS PART OF THE - BROKENNESS OF THE SYSTEM. - >> Nawaz: DORIS MEISSNER IS A - SENIOR FELLOW AT THE MIGRATION - POLICY INSTITUTE AND A FORMER - COMMISSIONER OF THE IMMIGRATION - AND NATURALIZATION SERVICE AND - ACKNOWLEDGES WHY PEOPLE APPLY - FOR ASYLUM, BUT SAYS MOST CLAIMS - DON'T MEET THE STANDARD. - >> THOSE ARE REAL REASONS FOR - LEAVING THEIR COUNTRIES. - BUT FOR MOST OF THEM, THEY ARE - NOT REASONS THAT ULTIMATELY - QUALIFY FOR ASYLUM UNDER U.S. - LAW, UNDER THE INTERNATIONAL - DEFINITIONS. - THBIG NEED ON THE U.S. SIDE IS - AN ASYLUM SYSTEM THAT IS FIXED - IN A WAY THAT ACTUALLY MAKES IT - POSSIBLE TO MAKE THOSE - DECISIONS, BUT MAKE THEM IN A - WAY THAT IS NOT ONLY FAIR BUT - TIMELY, WHICH MEANS MONTHS, NOT - YEARS. - >> Nawaz: H IS NOW HEADED TO - KANSAS, TO STAY WITH HER SISTER. - HER SON IS ALREADY THERE AND - THEY'LL BE REUNITED SOON. - AFTER THAT, SHE DOESN'T KNOW - WHAT WILL HAPPEN.

- >> ( translated ): I HOPE I WILL - EVENTUALLY FIND WORK. - I AM PRAYING TO GOD THAT I WIN - MY ASYLUM CASE. - I HAVE FAITH THAT GOD WILL HELP - ME. - >> Nawaz: SHE AND HER SON HAVE - MADE IT TO THE U.S. - WHETHER OR NOT THEY CAN STAY, - REMAINS TO BE SEEN. - FOR THE PBS NEWSHOUR, I'M AMNA - NAWAZ IN EL PASO, TEXAS. - >> Woodruff: THE FIRST BATCH OF - RESULTS FROM THE 2020 CENSUS - COUNT ARE IN. - THE BUREAU RELEASED STATE - POPULATION NUMBERS TODAY AND - REVEALED HOW THE BALANCE OF - POWER IN THE U.S. HOUSE OF - REPRESENTATIVES HAS BEEN RESET - FOR THE NEXT DECADE. - LISA DESJARDINS HAS THE STORY. - >> GOOD AFTERNOON. - >> Desjardins: RARELY IS A - SEDATE ZOOM CALL THIS - POLITICALLY DRAMATIC. - >> THE SOUTH GREW THE FASTEST

- OVER THE LAST DECADE, WITH A - 10.2% INCREASE IN POPULATION, - >> Desjardins: WITH JEWEL-TONED - BACKGROUNDS, U.S. CENSUS STAFF - ANNOUNCED POPULATION SHIFTS THAT - COULD CHANGE THE RED AND BLUE - BALANCE IN CONGRESS. - >> LET'S GET TO THE RESULTS - YOU'VE ALL BEEN WAITING FOR. - >> Desjardins: THE BUREAU SHOWED - THREE STATES IN THE SOUTH HAVE - GAINED ENOUGH POPULATION TO ADD - SEATS IN CONGRESS; TEXAS, - GAINING TWO SEATS. - AND NORTH CAROLINA AND FLORIDA, - ONE A PIECE. - THE OTHER THREE STATES ADDING - ONE EACH ARE WEST-- COLORADO, - MONTANA AND OREGON. - IN TURN SEVEN STATES WILL LOSE - ONE SEAT EACH: CALIFORNIA AND - THEN A CLUSTER OF RUST BELT - STATES: WEST VIRGINIA, - PENNSYLVANIA, OHIO, MICHIGAN, - ILLINOIS AND NEW YORK. - FOR NEW YORK, SOME STING TO THE - LOSS, OFFICIALS SAID THE STATE - NEEDED TO COUNT JUST 89 MORE - PEOPLE TO KEEP ALL OF ITS - CONGRESSIONAL SEATS. - REPORTERS TRIPLE CHECKED THAT. - >> WOW. - THAT'S A BIG LOSS FOR JUST 89 - PEOPLE. - >> I CAN JUST CONFIRM THAT THE - NUMBER, WHEN YOU CALCULATE IT,

- IS 89. - >> Desjardins: THIS AFTER THE - CENSUS AND ITS ARMY OF WORKERS - FACED A PLAGUE OF CHALLENGES. - COINCIDING WITH A ONCE-A-CENTURY - PANDEMIC WAS JUST ONE. - THE COUNT IS AS CRITICAL A - EVER. - IT DETERMINES HOW MANY SEATS - EACH STATE GETS IN THE HOUSE OF - REPRESENTATIVES. - AND IT GUIDES AT LEAST A - TRILLION DOLLARS TO STATE AND - LOCAL GOVERNMENTS FOR PROGRAMS - LIKE MEDICAID, MEDICARE, SCHOOL - LUNCHES, AND MORE. - HANSI LO WANG COVERS THE CENSUS - FOR NPR. - HOW BIG A DEAL IS THE - ANNOUNCEMENT TODAY? - >> THIS IS A VERY BIG DEAL. - THIS IS A CULMINATION OF NEARLY - A DECADE'S WORTH OF PLANNING AND - EXECUTION LAST YEAR, AND THIS IS - A ONCE A DECADE RESET OF THE - NATIONAL POLITICAL MAP. - >> Desjardins: HENCE THE MASSIVE - DRIVE FOR RESPONSES. - >> COUNTING EVERYONE IN YOUR - HOME HELPS SUPPORT YOUR - NEIGHBORHOOD FOR THE NEXT TEN - YEARS, BY FUNDING THINGS LIKE - SCHOOLS, HOSPITALS AND BUSSES. - >> Desjardins: BUT LIKE SO MUCH - IN 2020, THE CENSUS WAS HIT WITH - UNPRECEDENTED ACTS OF GOD AND

- MAN. - MARCH 2018: THE TRUMP - ADMINISTRATION ADDS A QUESTION - ASKING IF PEOPLE ARE U.S. - CITIZENS. - ULTIMATELY THE SUPREME COURT - BLOCKS THE IDEA, BUT IT RAISES - CONFUSION AND FEAR IN SOME - IMMIGRANT COMMUNITIES. - JANUARY 2019: THE PARTIAL - GOVERNMENT SHUTDOWN FURLOUGHS - SOME CENSUS STAFF DURING A - CRITICAL PREPARATION TIME. - MARCH 2020: THE CORONAVIRUS - HITS, PRECISELY AS CENSUS FORMS - ARE MAILED OUT. - THE AGENCY DELAYS ITS FIELD - OPERATIONS FOR ALMOST TWO - MONTHS. - SEPTEMBER 2020: HURRICANES AND - WILDFIRES ACROSS THE COUNTRY - HIT, CAUSING THOUSANDS TO FLEE - THEIR HOMES, CAUSING THOUSANDS - TO FLEE THEIR HOMES DURING THE - CRUCIAL FINAL FULL MONTH OF - COUNTING. - >> THE 2020 CENSUS WAS JUST A - MESS. - >> Desjardins: WANG SAYS THE - LAYERS OF ISSUES ADD TO REGULAR - QUESTIONS ABOUT UNDERCOUNTED - GROUPS: PEOPLE OF COLOR, - IMMIGRANTS AND RURAL AMERICANS. - >> AND FOR THE 2020 CENSUS, ALL - OF THESE GROUPS FACE A HIGHER - RISK OF BEING UNDERCOUNTED

- BECAUSE THE CENSUS BUREAU WAS - REALLY STRAPPED TO TRY TO GET - DOORKNOCKERS OUT TO COMMUNITIES - WHILE THERE WERE LOCKDOWNS IN - PLACE, WHILE THERE WERE MAJOR - PUBLIC HEALTH CONCERNS, AS WELL - AS THE TRUMP ADMINISTRATION - CUTTING SHORT THE CUTTING SHORT, - THE AMOUNT OF TIME A - DOORKNOCKERS HAD TO REACH THESE - HOUSEHOLDS. - >> Desjardins: CENSUS OFFICIALS - TODAY STOOD BY THEIR COUNT. - >> WE FEEL VERY CONFIDENT THAT - WE DID A GOOD JOB OF COLLECTING - DATA IN SPITE OF THE COVID-19 - OUTBREAK. - >> Desjardins: EVEN SO, STATES - THAT LOST, LIKE NEW YORK, ARE - SURE TO BE UNHAPPY. - ALONG WITH SOME STATES THAT - GAINED, LIKE FLORIDA, WHICH - EXPECTED TWO NEW SEATS, NOT JUST - ONE. - IT'S TOO LATE TO ADD MORE - POPULATION, BUT STATES DO HAVE - ONE OPTION: TO APPEAL THESE - NUMBERS IN COURT. - FOR THE PBS NEWSHOUR, I'M LISA - DESJARDINS. - >> Woodruff: TO DIVE DEEPER INTO - THE POLITICAL RAMIFICATIONS OF - THE CENSUS DATA RELEASED TODAY, - I'M JOINED BY AMY WALTER OF THE - COOK POLITICAL REPORT. - SO HELLO AMY, TAKE THAT DEEPER - DIVE AND TELL US A LITTLE MORE - ABOUT HOW DEMOCRATS, REPUBLICANS - ARE AFFECTED AT THE

- CONGRESSIONAL LEVEL AND THEN - NATIONALLY. - >> SURE. - WELL, LET'S START WITH THE - WINNERS. - ON THE MAP WE SAW THAT TEXAS WAS - THE BIGGEST WINNER PICKING UP - TWO SEATS. - BUT YOU ALSO NOTICE SOMETHING - LSE HERE. - REPUBLICANS HAVE TO BE HAPPY - WITH THE FACT THAT TEXAS, - FLORIDA AND NORTH CAROLINA ALL - GAINING SEATS, NOT ONLY ARE - THESE STATES THAT PRESIDENT - TRUMP THEN PRESIDENT TRUMP WON - IN THE 2020 ELECTION AND THE - 2016 ELECTION BUT THEY ALSO ARE - THREE STATES THAT ARE CONTROLLED - COMPLETELY BY REPUBLICANS. - SO REPUBLICANS CONTROL THE - ENTIRE REDISTRICTING PROCESS IN - THOSE STATES THAT ARE TBING TO - PICK UP FOUR CONGRESSIONAL - SEATS. - DEMOCRATS, YOU KNOW, OREGON, - COLORADO, ARE TWO STATES THAT - BIDEN CARRIED. - PRESIDENT BIDEN CARRIED IN 2020. - THAT IS HELPFUL TO THEM. - AND LET'S GO TO THE LOSERS. - WE HAVE MORE STATES HERE, SEVEN - STATES THAT ARE LOSING ONE - CONGRESSIONAL DISTRICT. - FOR DEMOCRATS, YOU KNOW, YOU

- LOOK AT SOME OF THOSE BIG DARK - BLUE STATE, THE ONES THAT ARE - THE PILARS FOR THE ELECTORAL - COLLEGE OR PLATFORM, FOR - DEMOCRATS TO BUILD ON. - NEW YORK, ILLINOIS, CALIFORNIA, - ALL THE STATES LOSING SEATS, NOT - GREAT FOR DEMOCRATS. - REPUBLICANS LOSING A SEAT IN - WEST VIRGINIA, THAT HAS BECOME - NOW THE MOST REPUBLICAN STATE IN - THE COUNTRY AFTER WYOMING. - AND OHIO, A STATE THAT USED TO - BE A SWING STATE IS NOW MUCH - MORE REPUBLICAN LEANING. - OVERALL WE ARE LOOKING AT THE - NATIONAL PICTURE RIGHT NOW. - IF WE PUT THIS MAP INTO PLAY IN - THE 2020 ELECTION, ALL RIGHT, SO - EVERYTHING ELSE REMAINS THE - SAME, IT WOULD SHIFT JUST THREE - ELECTORAL VOTES. - THREE ELECTORAL VOTES AWAY IF - BIDEN TOWARD TRUMP. - SO INSTEAD OF HAVING 306 - ELECTORAL VOTES IN THE VICT RE, - IT WOULD BE 303 ELECTORAL VOTES. - IT DOESN'T SEEM LIKE MUCH BUT - WHEN THESE RACES ARE DECIDED BY - SUCH A NARROW MARGIN, EVEN ONE - ELECTORAL VOTE CAN BE CRITICAL.

- >> EF RESINGLE ONE. - AND ONE CAN MATTER. - AND AMY, TELL US WHAT ABOUT IN - TERMS OF DRAWING CONGRESSIONAL - DISTRICT LINE, WHAT ARE WE - LEARNING ABOUT THAT? - >> THAT'S RIGHT. - THIS IS A PORTION SO THIS IS THE - PART WHERE THE STATE'S LEARN DID - YOU GAIN OR DID YOU LOSE A SEAT - BUT THE REAL NITTY GRITTY IS - GOING TO COME LATER THIS SUMMER - WHEN THE DETAILS-- DETAILED DATA - IS RELEASED AND YOU START - DRAWING THOSE LINES. - THAT IS WHEN YOU HEAR WORDS LIKE - GERRYMANDER. - EVEN STATES THAT AREN'T MAINING - OR LOSING UNLESS YOU ARE A STATE - THAT ONLY HAS ONE CONGRESSIONAL - DISTRICT, YOU HAVE TO REDRAW - YOUR LINE. - POPULATION SHIFTED. - THINK ABOUT A PLACE LIKE GEORGIA - WHERE THE ATLANTA SUBURBS HAVE - BEEN BOOMING, NOT SO MUCH IN THE - OTHER PARTS IN THE STATE. - YOU HAVE TO READJUST THOSE - CONGRESSIONAL LINES AM YOU CAN - GAIN OR LOSE A SEAT AS A PARTY - JUST BECAUSE, EVEN IF YOU ARE - NOT GAINING OR LOSING A - CONGRESSIONAL DISTRICT, RIGHT. - THE GOOD NEWS FOR DEMOCRATS, - THEY HAVE MORE CONTROL OVER THE - PROCESS THAN THEY DID IN 2010,

- THE LAST TIME THE LINES WERE - DRAWN. - THE BAD NEWS FOR DEMOCRATS, THE - GOOD NEWS FOR REPUBLICANS IS - THAT REPUBLICANS STILL CONTROL - MORE THAN TWICE AS MANY - CONGRESSAL DISTRICT LINES IN - TERMS OF, THEY HAVE TOTAL - CONTROL FOR DRAWING THAT MANY - MORE LINES. - THAT IS LIKELY TO HELP, AS I - SAID, ESPECIALLY IN PLACES THAT - ARE FAST GROWING, TEXAS, NORTH - CAROLINA, BUT ALSO IN A PLACE - LIKE GEORGIA WHERE DEMOCRATS - HAVE MADE REALLY BIG GAINS IN - THESE LAST TWO YEARS, BUT - REPUBLICANS CONTROL THE ENTIRE - LINE DRAWING PROCESS. - AND SO WHAT YOU MAY SEE THERE IS - DEMOCRATS ACTUALLY WINNING TWO - SENATE SEATS BUT IN THE NEXT - UPCOMING ELECTION THEY MAY LOSE - A CONGRESSIONAL DISTRICT. - >> SO MUCH DEPENDS ON WHO - CONTROLS THESE STATES, THE STATE - LEGISLATURE. - AMY WALTER, STAY WITH US. - WE WILL NOW BRING IN SOMEONE YOU - KNOW VERY WELL, NPR'S TAMARA - KEITH JOINING THE CONVERSATION - FOR POLITICS MONDAY. - HELLO TAM. - SO LET'S PIVOT, TAM.

- FROM TALKING ABOUT WHAT IS - COMING DOWN THE LINE SO WHAT IS - GOING ON RIGHT NOW. - AND THAT IS TWO NIGHTS FROM NOW, - WEDNESDAY NIGHT, PRESIDENT BIDEN - MAKING HIS JOINT ADDRESS TO - CONGRESS AS HE APPROACHES 100 - DAYS IN OFFICE. - I KNOW YOU HAVE BEEN TALKING TO - A LOT OF PEOPLE. - WHAT ARE YOU HEARING THAT PEOPLE - EXPECT HIM TO SAY WEDNESDAY. - >> YEAH, AND THIS ONE IS COMING - A LITTLE BIT LATER THAN THESE - JOINT ADDRESSES TRADITIONALLY - ARE. - WHICH MEANS THAT PRESIDENT BIDEN - HAS MORE ACCOMPLISHMENTS TO TALK - ABOUT, AND REALLY HIS - ADMINISTRATION HELD OFF ON - SCHEDULING THESE UNTIL THEY WERE - ABLE TO PITCH THE NEXT THING. - SO THIS ADDRESS IS CERTAINLY - GOING TO TALK ABOUT WHAT HAS - HAPPENED, 200 MILLION COVID - VACCINE SHOTS IN ARMS BY A - NDRED DAYS. - PRESIDENT BIDEN WILL INEVITABLY - SAY THAT PEOPLE WOULDN'T THINK - IT WAS POSSIBLE. - AND YOU KNOW, THERE IS STILL THE - ARGUMENT THAT THERE WAS A BIT OF - UNDERPROMISING AND - OVERDELIVERRING. - BUT THEN THEY ARE USING THIS

- SPEECH AND THE VERY BIG AUDIENCE - THAT TRADITIONALLY COMES COMES A - JOINT ADDRESS TO PUSH FOR THE - NEXT PHASE OF THE INFRASTRUCTURE - PLAN WHICH ISN'T REALLY ABOUT - INFRASTRUCTURE. - IT'S ABOUT CHILD CARE AND - FAMILIES, THEY'RE CALLING IT THE - AMERICAN FAMILY PLAN. - SO HE IS GOING TO TAKE ADVANTAGE - OF THIS VERY BIG AUDIENCE TO - TALK ABOUT THE THING THAT HE AND - HIS ADMINISTRATION WOULD - PROBABLY BE TALKING ABOUT FOR - THE REST OF THE SUMMER. - >> AND MEANTIME, AMY, THE SPEECH - COMES AS WE'RE SEEING SOME NEW - POLLS ABOUT HOW THE PRESIDENT IS - BEING SEEN BY THE AMERICAN - PEOPLE, THE CONSENSUS SEAMS TO - BE A LITTLE MORE THAN HALF - APPROVE OF THE JOB HE'S DOING. - TELL US POR ABOUT WHAT YOU SEE - IN THOSE NUMBERS. - >> YEAH, SO YOU KNOW, PRESIDENT - BIDEN COMING INTO THIS ADDRESS - WITH PRETTY DECENT APPROVAL - RATING NUMBERS, AVERAGING RIGHT - NOW ABOUT 54 PERCENT APPROVAL - RATING. - THAT IS A BIG IMPROVEMENT FROM - SAY WHERE PRESIDENT TRUMP WAS AT

- IS STAGE IN HIS PRESIDENCY. - IN FACT, DURING THE ENTIRETY OF - PRESIDENT TRUMP'S PRESIDENCY, HE - NEVER ONCE HIT A 50% JOB - APPROVAL RATING. - BUT IT'S MUCH LOWER THAN - PREVIOUS PRESIDENTS HAD SEEN IN - THE SO CALLED HONEYMOON PHASE OF - THE PRESIDENCY WHERE YOU SAW - FOLKS LIKE GEORGE W. BUSH AFTER - A VERY CONTENTIOUS 2,000 - ELECTION, IS LOOKING AT APPROVAL - RATINGS IN THE '60S, AS WAS - PRESIDENT OBAMA, AT THIS POINT. - SO I THINK WHAT THIS TELLS US IS - THAT YOU KNOW, THIS IS PRESIDENT - BIDEN WON THE ELECTION WITH 51, - A LITTLE OVER 51 PERCENT OF THE - VOTE, HIS APPROVAL RATING, - SOMEWHERE AROUND 54 PERCENT. - SO BASICALLY HE IS HOLDING ON TO - EVERYBODY THAT HE WON IN THE - ELECTION AND BRINGING SOME NEW - FOLKS OVER, PROBABLY THOSE ARE - NOT REPUBLICANS, REPUBLICANS ARE - PRETTY UNITED IN THEIR DISLIKE - OF THE PRESIDENT BUT GETTING - INDEPENDENCE OVER TO YOUR SIDE, - IN THESE RACES THAT ARE GOING TO - BE SO CRITICAL, 2022, 2024, - WINNING OVER INDEPENDENTS IS - WHAT BRINGS YOU FROM, INTO THE W

- COLUME. - >> AND TAM, WERE YOU TELLING US, - THIS IS A REMINDER OF HOW WE - REALLY ARE IN A DIFFERENT - POLITICAL ENVIRONMENT RIGHT NOW. - >> YEAH, ABSOLUTELY. - AS AMY ELUDED TO, FORMER - PRESIDENT TRUMP STAYED IN A - FAIRLY NARROWED BAND. - HE MAINTAINED THE SUPPORT OF HIS - BASE. - WHILE PRESIDENT BIDEN IS, YOU - KNOW, WE DON'T HAVE A LOT OF - DATA TO GO FOR. - WE ARE ONLY A HUNDRED DAYS IN. - BUT HE IS IN A FAIRLY NARROW - BAND TOO. - SO FAR. - HE IS VERY NEAR WHERE HE WAS - WHEN HE WON. - AND IT MAY REALLY TRULY JUST BE - A FUNCTION OF HOW POLARIZED OUR - POLITICS ARE NOW THAT EVEN - THOUGH THERE IS PRETTY GOOD - APPROVAL FOR PRESIDENT BIDEN'S - HANDLING OF THE PANDEMIC, - OVERALL HOW DO YOU FEEL ABOUT - THE PRESIDENT, IT'S PRETTY - LOCKED IN. - AND IT'S UNCLEAR WHAT COULD - CHANGE THAT BECAUSE PEOPLE HAVE - REALLY JUST GONE INTO THEIR - CORNERS.

- >> SO GIVEN THAT, AMY, WHAT IS - THE SPACE FOR REPUBLICANS TO - MAKE THEIR CASE. - WE KNOW SENATOR KIM SCOTT, OF - SOUTH CAROLINA IS GOING TO BE - GIVING THE REPUBLICAN, OFFICIAL - REPUBLICAN RESPONSE ON WEDNESDAY - NIGHT. - WHAT KIND OF THICKS CAN THEY - TALK ABOUT, CAN THEY SAY TO MAKE - THEIR CASE? - >> I THINK WHAT YOU WILL HEAR A - LOT ABOUT FROM REPUBLICANS, - WE'LL SEE IF SENATOR SCOTT MAKE - THIS CASE AS WELL IS ON THE - ISSUE OF IMMIGRATION T IS THE - ONE PLACE WHEN YOU LOOK AT THE - POLLING WITH PRESIDENT BIDEN IS - DEEPLY UNDERWATER. - AS TAM SAID, HE'S GETTING REALLY - HIGH, MARKS FOR HIS HANDLING OF - THE CORONAVIRUS IN THE '60S, - THAT IS NOT TRANSLATE TOK YEFER - ALL SUPPT, SUPPORT ON THE - SHOOF IMMIGRATION, REALLY LOW, - THAT HASN'T DRAGGED HIS NUMBERS - DOWN EITHER. - BUT IT'S CLEARLY A PLACE OF - WEAKNESS FOR THIS - ADMINISTRATION. - AND I EXPECT TO SEE REPUBLICANS - TALK ABOUT THAT. - AND THEN THE PRICE TAG FOR ALL - OF THE SPENDING, I THINK WE WILL - HEAR A LOT MORE ABOUT BUDGET

- DEFICITS, WE'LL HEAR A LOT MORE - ABOUT, Y K - REIGNING IN FEDERAL SPENDING AT - A TIME WHEN DEMOCRATS BELIEVE - THAT THE PUBLIC IS HUNGRY FOR - MORE INVESTMENT. - AND SO WHAT REPUBLICANS DO NEED - TO DO TO MAKE THEIR CASE FOR - LESS FUNDING IS TO SUGGEST THAT - SPENDING MORE IS BOTH GOING TO - RAISE THE DEFICIT AND IT ALSO - COULD COME AT A COST TO - INDIVIDUALS. - THE PRESIDENT SAYS NO ONE WHO IS - MAKING OVER $400,000 IS GOING TO - GET TAXED, THIS IS ALL GOING TO - COME FROM CORPORATION. - I THINK WHAT YOU WILL HEAR FROM - REPUBLICANS IS YEAH, BUT AT SOME - POINT THAT IS GOING TO COME DOWN - TO YOU. - TAX CUTS OR TAX INCREASES, TO - BUSINESSES, END UP BEING - INCREASES, AT WHATEVER YOU ARE - BUYING FROM THAT PLACE - EVENTUALLY, GOES TO THE - CONSUMER. - >> AND TAM, JUST QUICKLY, THIS - IS SOMETHING THE WHITE HOUSE IS - PREPARED FOR, BRACING THEMSELVES - FOR? - >> WELL, IF YOU WATCH THE WHITE - HOUSE PRESS BRIEFING THEY - BROUGHT IN THE ECONOMIC ADVISOR

- TO EXPLAIN WHY THIS REALLY ISN'T - A TAX INCREASE ON REGULAR PEOPLE - OR SMALL BUSINESSES, THAT THIS - IS REALLY JUST TARGETED-- BUT - EVEN LESS THAN THE TOP 1 - PERCENT. - SO THEY ARE AWARE THAT THIS IS - COMING. - THE OTHER ARMENT THAT THEY ARE - PREPARED FOR IS THE ARGUMENT - THAT HEY, YOU GUYS ARE TUCKING - ABOUT A LOT OF THINGS THAT - AREN'T REALLY INFRASTRUCTURE. - WHICH IS WHERE THIS HOUSE HAS - BEEN TRYING TO SORT OF PUSH THE - IDEA THAT THIS ISN'T ABOUT - INFRASTRUCTURE, BUT IS MORE - ABOUT THE UNDERGIRDING OF THE - U.S. ECONOMY AND THINGS THAT ARE - NEEDED TO CREATE JOBS OR MORE - FAIRNESS. - AND A LOT OF THESE POLICIES ARE - FAIRLY POPULAR IN THE ABSTRACT. - AND DEMOCRATS AND THE WHITE - HOUSE ARE GOING TO HAVE TO WORK - TO KEEP THEM POPULAR, WHILE - REPUBLICANS WORK TO MAKE THEM - LESS POPULAR OR TO MAKE PEOPLE - CARE MORE ABOUT IMMIGRATION THAN - SOME OF THESE OTHER THINGS. - >> SO WHEN IS INFRASTRUCTURE - REALLY INFRASTRUCTURE AND WHEN

- IS IF REALLY SOMETHING ELSE. - ALL RIGHT. - TAMARA KEITH, AMY WALTER, SO - GREAT TO HAVE BOTH OF YOU - TONIGHT. - THANK YOU. - 7. - >> YOU'RE WELCOME. - >> YOU'RE WELCOME. - >> Woodruff: TONIGHT'S BRIEF BUT - SPECTACULAR FEATURES LINDA - MADUWURA. - RAISED IN ZIMBABWE, SHE CAME TO - THE U.S. IN 2006, WHERE SHE - STUDIED TO BECOME AN ACCOUNTANT. - SHE NOW HAS HER OWN PRACTICE - THAT CREATES NEW OPPORTUNITIES - FOR HER FELLOW ZIMBABWEANS BACK - HOME. - >> ONE. - THINGS I HAVE ALWAYS UNDERSTOOD - COMING TO THE UNITED STATES WAS - THAT AFRICANS HAVE GENERALLY - BEEN PORTRAYED AS BASKET WEAVER, - COFFEE BEAN FARMERS. - BUT WE'RE MORE THAN THAT. - WHEN YOU LOOK AT THE GRAND - SPECTRUM OF WHAT AFRICANS HAVE - BEEN ABLE TO DO WITHIN THE - UNITED STATES, THEY'RE - EVERYTHING. - THEY'RE DOCTORS, THEY'RE - ENGINEERS. - THEY'RE VENTURE CAPITALIST, - THEY'RE MATHEMATICIANS AND I

- REALLY WANTED TO DO MY PART TO - CHANGE THAT NARRATIVE. - I WAS BORN AND RAISED IN A SMALL - MINING TOWN IN ZIMBABWE. - I AM THE ONLY GIRL IN A FAMILY - OF FIVE. - THE EXPECTATION MY PARENTS HAD - FOR ME WERE VERY DIFFERENT THAN - FOR MY BROTHER. - THEIR EXPECTATIONS OF ME WERE - THAT I WOULD BECOME A GOOD - AFRICAN HOUSEWIFE. - I WOULD COOK ANDLEAN FOR MY - FAMILY. - AND I REMEMBER THE YEARNING FOR - THE BOOKS THAT MY BROTHER WOULD - GET FROM THE LIBRARY, THAT HE - NEVER READ. - IN MY HEART I KNEW I WANTED TO - BE AN ACCOUNTANT. - AND WHEN I GOT TO SCHOOL I SNUCK - AWAY FROM THE FABRICS CLASS AND - INTO THE ACCOUNTING CLASS. - SOMEWHERE ALONG E LINE MY - PARENTS HAD REALIZED I WAS - PROBABLY JUST AS SMART AS THE - BOYS AND WANTED TO GIVE ME THE - SAME OPPORTUNITY AS THE BOYS. - I AM A CPA, BY PROFESSION. - AND WHEN I FIRST MOVED TO THE - U.S. I RECALL TAKING WEEKEND - CLASSES. - I DROVE EVERY WEEKEND TO TAKE - EXTRA CLASSES SO THAT I COULD - QUALIFY TO SIT FOR THE EXAM. - I HAD A YOUNG CHILD, MY FAMILY

- WAS YOUNG, WE JUST MOVED TO A - NEW CITY. - BUT WITHIN ABOUT TWO OR THREE - YEARS I HAD DONE ENOUGH TO SIT - FOR THE EXAM. - AND I RECALL THE VERY LONG AND - LATE HOURS THAT MY HUSBAND, WHO - WHEN I FIRST MET, HI TOLD HIM - THE MOST IMPORTANT THING TO ME - IN A MAN IS HE HIS ABILITY TO DO - LAUNDRY. - CAN I NOT TELL YOU HOW VALUABLE - THAT WAS IN THOSE YEARS. - MY PRACTICE, IS A SOLUTION FOR - VENTURE CAPITAL AND HIGH NET - WORTH INDIVIDUALS. - FIVE AFTER PARTNERS WAS FORMED - IN 2017. - IT IS NAMED AFTER A STREET IN - THE CAPITOL HURARI, THAT STREET - HAS SO MANY MEMORIES FOR ME. - I MET MY HUSBAND THERE. - I WALKED DOWN THE STREET ON FIVE - AVENUE TO MY VERY FIRST JOB. - ZIMBABWE HAS A VERY HIGH I - LITTLE RASSEE RATE SO ONE OF THE - CRITICAL THINGS I WANTED TO MAKE - SURE WAS THAT WHATEVER WE DID, - THE SOLUTION WE BROUGHT TO OUR - CLIENTS WAS A CLOUD BAISESSED - SOLUTION THAT ALLOWED FOLKS IN - ZIMBABWE TO WORK FOR US, AND - MAKE AN HONEST LIVING. - CURRENTLY FOLKS HAVE TO ORK IN - THE MIDDLE OF THE NIGHT BECAUSE

- THAT IS WHEN RELIABLE-- IS - AVAILABLE. - THE THG THAT ECK ABOUTS MY - HEART THE MOST, IS THE LACK OF - OPPORTUNITY. - THERE IS PLENTY OF WOMEN, PLENTY - OF YOUNG GIRLS OUT THERE WHO ARE - SMART WHO ARE DRIVEN, WHO HAVE - AMBITION, BUT THEY LACK THE - OPPORTUNITY. - WHAT I WOULD SAY TO ANY GIRL WHO - FEELS LIKE MAYBE THEIR DREAMS - ARE NOT HEARD, MAYBE NO ONE IS - LISTENING, ASK YOURSELF, WHAT - BREAKS YOUR HEART, BECAUSE WHEN - YOU CAN ANSWER THAT QUESTION, I - REALLY BELIEVE THAT YOU WILL - HARNESS EVERYTHING WITHIN YOU TO - BE ABLE TO PUSH YOURSELF TO DO - BEYOND WHAT YOU COULD EVER, EVER - IMAGINE THAT YOU COULD POSSIBLY - DO. - AS A GIRL WHO MADE IT OUT OF A - SMALL VILLAGE OF 8,500 PEOPLE, - THERE IS A REASON I'M HERE. - AND I HAVE GOT TO MAKE SURE THAT - I USE THE OPPORTUNITIES AWARDED - TO TO ME TO HELP SOMEBODY ELSE - WHO OTHERWISE WOULD NEVER BE - ABLE TO DREAM OF SUCH AN - OPPORTUNITY. - MY NAME IS LINDA MADAWURA, AND - THIS IS MY BRIEF BUT SPECTACULAR - TAKE ON CREATING OPPORTUNITY.

- >> Woodruff: JUST WONDERFUL. - AND YOU CAN FIND ALL OF OUR - AND YOU CAN FIND ALL OF OUR - BRIEF BUT SPECTACULAR SEGMENTS - ONLINE AT: - pbs.org/newshour/brief. - THIS WAS NO TRADITIONAL YEAR FOR - THE MOVIES, OR THE OSCAR AWARDS. - AUDIENCES RATINGS LAST NIGHT - WERE DOWN NEARLY 60%. - BUT THERE WERE EXCELLENT FILMS, - PERFORMANCES AND MORE DIVERSITY - IN THE NOMINATIONS. - DANIEL KALUUYA WON BEST - SUPPORTING ACTOR FOR HIS - PORTRAYAL OF BLACK PANTHER - LEADER FRED HAMPTON IN "JUDAS - AND THE BLACK MESSIAH" - YUH JUNG YOUN WON BEST - SUPPORTING ACTRESS FOR "MINARI." - AND CHLOE ZHAO BECAME THE FIRST - WOMAN OF COLOR TO WIN BEST - DIRECTOR FOR "NOMADLAND". - THAT FILM WON BEST PICTURE AND - BEST ACTRESS FOR FRANCES - McDORMAND AS WELL. - IT FOCUSES ON HOW SOME AMERICANS - ARE HAVING TO SCALE BACK AND - LIVE A MINIMALIST LIFESTYLE ON - THE ROAD. - OUR ECONOMICS CORRESPONDENT PAUL

- SOLMAN REPORTED LAST FALL ON - WHAT THAT LIFE IS LIKE AND SPENT - TIME WITH ONE OF THE NOMADS IN - THE MOVIE. - HERE'S A SECOND LOOK, PART OF - HIS SERIES, "UNFINHED - BUSINESS." - A NOTE: PORTIONS OF THIS STORY - WERE SHOT BEFORE THE PANDEMIC. - >> THIS WHOLE ENTIRE INDUSTRY IS - JUST EXPLODING RIGHT NOW. - >> Reporter: AT“ - NOMADIKCUSTOMS,” MARC VROMAN - AND HIS CREW RETROFIT VEHICLES - TO LIVE IN. - >> I THINK WITH THE COMBINATION - OF JUST HOW THINGS ARE IN THE - WORLD RIGHT W, PEOPLE ARE - REALLY WANTING TO JUMP INTO VANS - AND BUSSES AND JUST ALTERNATIVE - HOUSING SITUATIONS. - >> Reporter: THESE DAYS THE - HASHTAG VANLIFE BUSINESS IS - BOOMING. - VROMAN'S HIRED EIGHT NEW - WORKERS, BUT STILL CAN'T KEEP - UP. - >> AT LAST COUNT, I THINK I HAD - SOMETHING LIKE 180 ESTIMATES TO - WRITE, PROBABLY ANOTHER 400 - EMAILS TO RETURN. - AND PROBABLY I THINK YESTERDAY - ALONE, WE WE RECEIVED 37 PHONE - CALLS. - I FEEL LIKE I HOPPED ON TO A - ROCKET SHIP AND I HAVE JUST BEEN - DOING EVERYTHING I CAN TO HOLD - ON!

- >> Reporter: THE LAST HALF YEAR - OF LOST JOBS HAS SPURRED A - DESIRE TO ESCAPE. - CHEAP MOBILE LIVING ENABLES IT. - BUT LOTS OF FOLKS, MANY OLDER, - WERE ON THE ROAD BEFORE THE - VANLIFE HASHTAG, INSPIRED BY - THIS 65-YEAR-OLD. - >> WOULDN'T YOU LIKE TO BE OUT - HERE AND SEE AND LIVE LIKE THIS? - I LOVE MY LIFE. - >> Reporter: YOUTUBE CELEB BOB - WELLS MOVED INTO A VAN 25 YEARS - AGO WHEN DIVORCE LEFT HIM UNABLE - TO MEET THE RENT IN ANCHORAGE, - ALASKA. - >> I KNEW I COULD LIVE - COMFORTABLY IN A VAN ON 1400 A - MONTH, BECAUSE NO HOUSE PAYMENT, - NO UTILITY PAYMENTS. - I HAD SOLAR, I WAS MY OWN - UTILITY COMPANY. - I ENJOYED IT. - THAT WAS THE AMAZING THING. - >> Reporter: ENJOYED IT SO MUCH, - IN FACT, HE CREATED A WEBSITE,“ - heaprvliving.com,” AND THEN A - YOUTUBE CHANNEL TO TEACH OTHERS - TO DOWNSIZE AND THRIVE ON - WHEELS. - >> FINDING HEAT IN YOUR VAN IS A - REALLY IMPORTANT ISSUE FOR A LOT - OF US. - EVERYTHING YOU NEED TO STAY - CLEAN IS RIGHT HERE. - THE TOPIC OF TODAY IS POOP. - >> Reporter: WELLS' VIDEOS,

- VIEWED OVER 80 MILLION TIMES, - PREACH THE SIMPLE LIFE, - ESPECIALLY APPEALING RIGHT NOW - TO THOSE AGES 55-70, SOME THREE - MILLION OF WHOM HAVE BEEN SHOVED - OUT OF THE WORKFORCE. - >> 25% OF AMERICANS DON'T HAVE A - PENNY SAVED TOWARDS RETIREMENT. - SO IN 10 YEARS, 5, 10, 20 YEARS - THAT 25% ARE GOING TO BE LIVING - ON SOCIAL SECURITY. - AND SOCIAL SECURITY WON'T BE - ENOUGH FOR THEM TO LIVE ON. - >> THANKS FOR ALL YOU DO. - >> Reporter: EVERY WINTER IN - QUARTZSITE, ARIZONA, WELLS' - DEVOTEES CONVENE AT THE “R.T.R”" - -- THE “RUBBER TRAMP - RENDEZVOUS,” FOR SEMINARS AND - COMMUNITY. - >> I FEEL LIKE I'M A DISCIPLE. - YOU'RE MOSES AND I'M THE - DISCIPLE. - YOU'RE SPREADING THE WORD. - >> Reporter: WELLS, A SELF- - DESCRIBED INTROVERT, IS THEIR - CELEBRITY GURU. - >> THERE'S A LOT OF US HERE WHO - ARE ON SOCIAL SECURITY, THEY'RE - AND THEIR SOCIAL SECURITY IS - ANYWHERE FROM 600 TO 1000 A - MONTH. - AND SO YOU CAN SEE THEY COULDN'T - RENT A HOME ON THAT. - BUT WHEN THEY MOVE INTO THEIR - VAN. - WHAT MOST OF THEM SLOWLY HAVE TO - START DIPPING INTO THEIR

- SAVINGS, THEIR EMERGENCY FUND, - AND SO MOST OF THEM WILL HAVE TO - WORK SOME TIME TO REPLENISH IT. - >> Reporter: SO, THE TOPIC OF - ONE R.T.R. HUDDLE: EARNING ON - THE WEB. - >> IF YOU'RE NOT MONETIZING IT, - YOU'RE NOT MAKING MONEY THROUGH - YOUR WEBSITE OR SOCIAL MEDIA - THEN YOU'RE KIND OF MISSING OUT. - >> Reporter: INSPIRED BY WELLS' - SUCCESS, MOST PEOPLE HERE SEEMED - TO HAVE A YOUTUBE CHANNEL OF - THEIR OWN. - >> WE'RE CAMPER SIZE LIVING. - >> AND WHERE CAN WE FIND YOU? - >> YOUTUBE, INSTAGRAM AND - FACEBOOK. - >> Reporter: YOUTUBER LINDA - MASTROMONACO LIVES IN HER - S.U.V., SLEEPS IN THE FRONT - SEAT. - >> I USUALLY SLEEP ON MY SIDE. - I CURL UP, I STRETCH OUT THIS - WAY, I STRETCH OUT THIS WAY. - >> Reporter: TWO YEARS AGO - MASTROMONACO GAVE UP HER - APARTMENT, QUIT THE LAST OF HER - LOW-PAYING, NO-BENEFITS JOBS. - >> TARGET, KROGER'S, CHICO'S, - ALL THE RETAIL. - I HAVE WAITRESSING BACKGROUND. - JUST ALL KINDS OF THINGS WHERE - YOU'RE ON THE TREADMILL. - JUST TRYING TO REALLY LITERALLY - MAKE ENDS MEET. - >> Reporter: SHE NOW LIVES ON - THE ROAD, HAWKS INSPIRATIONAL - CARDS ONLINE, HAS POSTED

- HUNDREDS OF VIDEOS TO HER - YOUTUBE CHANNEL, UP TO NEARLY - 30,000 SUBSCRIBERS. - >> I'M THINKING MORE PEOPLE ARE - FEELING STUCK RIGHT NOW AND - MAKING A PLAN WHEN THEY CAN THAT - LEAVE THE TRADITIONAL LIFESTYLE. - >> Reporter: HOW'S YOUR YOUTUBE - CHANNEL DOING IN TERMS OF - INCOME? - >> INCOME HAS HAS REALLY, IT HAS - EXPLODED OVER THE LAST COUPLE - MONTHS. - I WAS AVERAGING YOU KNOW, $600 A - MONTH AND I'M OVER TWO GRAND FOR - THIS MONTH. - >> Reporter: STEVE TURTLE GIVES - HIS YOUTUBE FOLLOWERS THE DOWN - AND DIRTY ON “WORKAMPING”-- - WORKING SEASONAL JOBS WHILE - CAMPING, THAT IS. - >> I'M GONNA SHOW YOU HOW I - CLEAN TOILETS. - THAT'S HOW YOU CLEAN A SOUTH - CAROLINA TOILET RIGHT THERE! - >> Reporter: TURTLE'S BEEN - HAMMING IT UP FOR OVER TWO - YEARS. - >> AND YOUTUBE REWARDS YOU FOR - PEOPLE WATCHING YOUR VIDEOS AND - THE COMMERCIAL. - >> Reporter: CAROL MEEKS HAS A - YOUTUBE COOKING CHANNEL FOR - NOMADS ON A TIGHT BUDGET.

- >> SOME PEOPLE ARE LIVING ON - FIVE TO $600 A MONTH. - SO I MEAN, WE'RE NOT GOING TO BE - HAVING SALMON AND CRAB LEGS. - YOU CAN DO A LOT OF THINGS FOR A - DOLLAR A SERVING IF YOU KNOW HOW - TO SHOP. - AND IF YOU'RE CREATIVE IN HOW - YOU'RE COOKING. - I'M PLANNING ON BECOMING THE - ANTHONY BOURDAIN OF VAN LIFE. - OKAY? - >> Reporter: BUT HOW MANY - ITINERANTS CAN SUPPORT - THEMSELVES ON YOUTUBE EARNINGS, - LIKE BOB WELLS? - >> FOR MOST PEOPLE IT'S NOT - REALISTIC. - THE IDEA OF MAKING THOUSANDS, - VERY FEW DO THAT. - >> Reporter: CONSIDER STEVE - TURTLE'S YOUTUBE TAKE. - I WAS SOMEWHERE AROUND 150 A - MONTH. - AND THEN IN MARCH, IT SORT OF - FELL APART. - THERE WAS JUST NOT A LOT GOING - ON. - >> Reporter: TURTLE STOPPED LIVE - STREAMING WHEN COVID HIT. - HE'S BACK AT IT, BUT HASN'T - REACHED YOUTUBE'S PAY THRESHOLD. - >> I DON'T THINK I'M GOING TO - TRY TO SURVIVE OFF OF YOUTUBE. - >> Reporter: BUT IF YOU, LIKE - BOB WELLS, MANAGE TO GO VIRAL, - PARDON THE EXPRESSION... - YOU MAKE 75 GRAND A YEAR FROM

- YOUTUBE? - THAT'S WHAT I READ ANYWAY. - >> I MAKE AN AMAZING AMOUNT OF - MONEY FROM YOUTUBE - >> Reporter: MORE THAN 75,000 I - TAKE IT. - >> AN AMAZING AMOUNT OF MONEY. - YOU WOULDN'T, I WOULDN'T BELIEVE - IT. - >> Reporter: WHAT DO YOU DO WITH - THE MONEY? - >> I GIVE IT AWAY. - WHAT DO I NEED MONEY FOR? - I LIVE IN A VAN! - >> Reporter: INDEED, WELLS HAS - STARTED A NONPROFIT TO PROVIDE - HOMES ON WHEELS FOR FOLKS IN - NEED, IN TUNE WITH HIS YOUTUBE - CHANNEL'S STATED GOAL: TO LEND A - HELPING HAND. - >> I'VE BEEN DEVASTATED IN - LIFE. - IN 2011, I HAVE TWO SONS AND ONE - OF MY SONS TOOK HIS LIFE. - THAT'S THE ONLY REACTION - POSSIBLE. - THERE'S NOTHING LIKE IT. - IT'S JUST, HOW DO YOU EXPRESS - IT? - AND WELL EVERY MORNING YOU WAKE - UP AND SAY, "HOW CAN I BE ALIVE - ON A PLANET ON WHICH HE'S NOT - HERE?" - AND SO THE ADEQUATE ANSWER IS I - HAVE SOMETHING TO GIVE. - >> Reporter: HE GIVES; HIS - FOLLOWERS RECEIVE. - CAROL MEEKS' YOUTUBE CHANNEL HAS - GROWN SINCE WE MET IN THE

- WINTER. - >> AND I ACTUALLY THINK THAT - THAT'S BEEN IMPACTED BECAUSE OF - COVID, BECAUSE SO MANY PEOPLE - ARE LOOKING FOR ENTERTAINMENT - AND ENGAGEMENT AND THEY'RE DOING - IT ONLINE. - >> Reporter: IN JANUARY SHE WAS - FORMING FRIENDSHIPS WITH FELLOW - NOMADS IN THE FLESH. - SINCE THE PANDEMIC: VIRTUAL - BONDS. - >> I HAVE MET SO MANY PEOPLE - ONLINE AND SO MANY OTHER PEOPLE - WHO HAVE CHANNELS WHO ARE IN - THIS TYPE OF LIFESTYLE. - SO, I FEEL LIKE I HAVE THAT - COMMUNITY. - >> Reporter: MEEKS, LIKE SO MANY - OLDER AMERICANS, SEEMS TO HAVE - FOUND A NEW TRIBE, ON THE ROAD, - ONLINE. - FOR THE PBS NEWSHOUR, THIS IS - PAUL SOLMAN. - AND THAT'S THE NEWSHOUR FOR - TONIGHT. - I'M JUDY WOODRUFF. - JOIN US ONLINE AND AGAIN HERE - TOMORROW EVENING. - FOR ALL OF US AT THE PBS - NEWSHO, THANK YOU, PLEASE STAY - SAFE, AND SEE YOU SOON. - >> MAJOR FUNDING FOR THE PBS - NEWSHOUR HAS BEEN PROVIDED BY:

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