PBS NewsHour; February 12, 2020, 3:00pm-4:00pm PST

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- THAT STATE'S CAUCUS. - AND LAST NIGHT'S NEW HAMPSHIRE - DEMOCRATIC PRIMARY RESULTS ARE - OFFERING SOME CLARITY TO THEID - PRTIAL FIELD. - SENATOR BERNIE SANDERS FINISHING - FIRST WITH 25.7% OF THVOTE, - FORMER SOUTH BEND MAYOR PETE - BUTTIGIEG JUST 1.3 PERCENTAGE - POINTS BEHIND, WITH 24.4%, AND - SENATOR AMY KLOBUCHAR WITH 19.8% - OF THE VOTE. - BUT AS AMNA NAWAZ REPORTS, THE - BATTLE FOR THE NOMINATION IS FAR - FROMVER. - >> TNK YOU NEW HAMPSHIRE!aw - >>: WITH A STRONG FINISH - IN IOWA AND A NARROW WIN IN - VERMONT SENATOR BERNIEANBELT, - TASAYS HE'S JU GED. - >> WE'RE G - GOINTO SOUTH CAROLIN AND THOSETE - BE PBU - ANOTHER BIG NIGHT, COMING IN A - OSE SECOND. - >> A CAMPAIGN THAT SOME SAID - SHOULDN'T BE HERE AT ALL, S - SHOWN THAT WE ARE HERE TO STAY.

- >> Nawaz: AND MINNESOTA SENATO - AMY KLOBUCHAR IN A SURPRISE - THIRD. - >> WE HAVE BEATEN THE ODDS EVERY - STEP OF THE WAY. - >> Nawaz: THE DEMOCRATIC FIELD - FURTHER WINNOWED, LOSING - ENTREPRENEUR ANDREW YANG AND - COLORADO SENATOR MICHAEL - BENNET AND THIS MORNING, - FORMER MASSACHUSETTS GOVERNOR - DEVAL PATRICK ANNOUNCED HE TOO - WOULD SUSPEND HIS CAMPAIGN, - SOMETHING HE HINTED AT LAST - NIGHT. - >> WE NEEDED THE WINDS FROM - WE NEEDED THIS WIN TO CARRY US - FORWARD. - >> Nawaz: BUT THE ROAD TO THE - DEMOCRATIC CONVENTION IS LONG, - AND EIGHT CANDIDATESTILL - VYING FOR THE NOMINATION. - MASSACHUSETTS SENATOR ELIZABETH - NIGHT, PUT THE EARLY STATE - RESULTS IN PERSPECTIVE FOR HER - SUPPORTERS.E' - >> TWO STATES IN, WITH - 55 STATES AND TERRITORIES TO GO. - >> Nawaz: COMING UP ON THE-- - PRIMARY CALENDIGGER, MORE - DIVERSE STATES THAT COULD - RADICALLY RESHAPE THE RACE IN - THE WEEKS AHEAD. - CAUCUSES IN NEVADAARY 22, THE - CAROLINA PRIMARY.HE SOUTH - AND ON MARCH 3, 14 STATES HIT

- WHERE A WHOPPING 33% OF ALL - TOTAL DELEGATES ARE UP FOR - GRABS. - FORMER VICE PRESIDENT JOE BIDEN, - AFTER WEAK FINISHES IN IOWA AND - NEW HAMPSHIRE, IS BAING ON - STRONG SUPPORT FROM AFRICAN - AMERICAN VOTERS IN THOSE - UPCOMING STATES. - BIDEN LEFT THE GRATE STATE - BEFORE POLLSVEN CLOSED, AND - HE TO TERS O - FRIENDLIER GROUND. - >> 99.9%. - ICAT'S THE PERCENTAGE OF A - AMERICAN VOTERS WHO HAVE NOT YEE - HAD A CHO VOTE IN AMERICA. - >> Nawaz: OTHER CANDIDATES ARE - ALSO HOPING A MORE DIVERSE - ELECTORATE WILL OFFER THEM A - BOOST. - >> IT SO GOOD TO BE IN - NEVADA. - >> Nawaz: BILLIONAIRE TOM STEYER - ECHOED BIDEN, SPEAKING LAST - NIGHT IN RENO, NEVADA. - >> WE HAVE A GLORIOUSLY DIVERSE - COUNTRY, AND A GLORIOUSLY - DIVERSE PARTY. - AND WE NEED TO MAKE SURE THAT - EVERY PART OF THAT COUNTRY AND - THAT PARTY IS PART OF THAT - COALITION AND SHOWS UP IN

- NOVEMBER. - >>awaz: AND NEW YORK CITY - MAYOR MIAEL BLOOMBERG HAS - ALREADY POURED MORTHAN - $300 MILLION OF HIS OWN MONEYUP - INTO TUESDAY AND BEYOND, - EVEN AS HE FACES RENEWED - QUESTIONS FOR HIS SUPPORT OFIS - RACIALLYIMINATORY POLICING - TACTICS KNOWN AS "STOP AND - FRISK." - THOSE, AFTER A YEARS-OLD AUDIO - CLIP OF HIM DISCUSSING THE - PRACTICE WENT VIRAL ON SOCIAL - MEDIA. - >> 95% OF YOUR MURDERS AND - MURDERERS ANMURDER VICTIMS FIT - ONE M.O. - YOU CAN JURI TAKE THE - DEION, XEROX IT AND PASS - IT OUT TO ALL THE COPS. - THEY ARE MALE, MINORITIES, 16 TO - 25. - >> Nawaz: IN CHAANOOGA, - TENNESSEE TODAY, A REPORTER - KED BLOOMBERG IF HE WAS - CONCERNED THE RECORDING WOULD - HURT HIS SUPPORT FROM AFRICAN - AMERICAN VOTERS. - >> I DO NOT THINK SO. - I THINK PEOPLE LOOK AT IT AND - THEY SAY THAT THOSE WORDS DON'T - REFLECT MICHAEL BLOOMBERG'S--E - Y HE GOVERNED NEW YORK - CITY, THE WAY HE RUNS HIS - COMPANY, THE WAY HIS - PHILANTHROPY WORKS. - I THINK WE ARE GOING TO DO VERY - WELL IN THE AFRICAN AMERICAN - COMMUNITY.FO

- >> Nawaz: THE RMER MAYOR COULD - BE THE NEWEST FACE ON THE N.C. - STAGE NEXT WEEK, WHEN E - CANDIDATES GATHER IN LAS VEGAS - FOR THE NINTH DEMOCRATIC DEBATE. - FOR THE PBS NEWSHOUR, I'M - AMNA N - >> Woodruff: EARLY THIS MORNING, - I SAT DOWN WITH ONE OF THE - SUCCESS STORIES OUT OF NEW - FFMPSHIRE, FORMER MAYOR PETE - BUTTIGIEG, FRESHIS VERY- - CLOSE SECOND-PLACE FINISH. - I BEGAN BY ASKING HIM TO EXPLAIN - WHAT HAPPENED IN THE GRANITE - STATE. - L, WHAT HAPPENED IS THAT - AFTER A YEAR OF CAMPAIGNING, - WE WERE ABLE TO SHOW, NOT JUST - TELL, THAT WE COULD PUT TOGETHER - AN EXTNARY COALITION OF - VOTERS-- YOUNGER AND OLDER, - URBAN, RURAL AND SUBURBAN, - COMING TOGETHER, BELIEVING THAT - WE NEED TO TURN THE PAGE. - THAT, IN ORDER TO GOVERN IN THE - TOFUTURE, BUT ALSO IN ORDE - BEAT DONALD TRUMP, THE TIME HAS - COME TO SET ASIDE THE POLITICS - OF THE PAST, LOOK TO THE FUTURE - AND DELIVEON BOLD CHANGES THAT - AMERICANS CAN GET BEHIND. - I SEE AN OPPORTUNITY RIGHT NOW - TO TAKE SOME OF THE BIGGEST - STEPS FORWD THAT AMERICA HAS - IN A HALF-CENTURY, AND

- CRUCIALLY, DO IT IN A WALYTHAT - CAN ACTUNIFY, NOT DIVIDE, - THE AMERICAN PEOPLE. - IT'S CLEAR THAT DESPITALL OF - THE ODDS AND PREDICTIONS, THAT - VISION WAS POWERFUL ENOUGH T - PROPEL US TO TOP TWO FINISHES IN - THE FIRST TWO STATES. - NOW THE CHALLENGE IS TO GO OTO - NEVADA, SOUTH CAROLINA AND - BEYOND AND CONTINUE GROWING THAT - COALITION. - >> Woodruff: THESE ARE DIFFERENT - STATES, A LOT MORE DIVERSITY. - NEVADA HAS A LATINO POPULATION,X - FOPLE. - THEY MAKE UP, I THINK, 20% OF - THE DEMOCRATIC PRIMARY. - HOW DO YOU APPEAL? - >> I'M VERY MUCH LOOKING FORWARD - TO FURTHER REACHING OUT AND - ENGAGING WITH LATINO VOTERS AND - AFRICAN AMERICAN VOTERS IN BOTH - NEVADA ANDUTH CAROLINA. - THAT'S PART OF OUR OUTREACH - STRATEGY. PART OF OUR MEDIA - AND WE'VE MADE SURE THROUGHOUT - THAT WE'RE OFFERING POLICIES - THAT ARE GOING TO MAKE A - DIFFERENCE IN THE EVERYDAY LIVES - OF DIVERSE VOTERS. - THIS IS AN OPPORTUNITY FOR US TO - DEMONSTRATE HOW, ON EVERYTHING - FROM ECONOMIC EMPOWERMENT TORI - DELI HEALTCARE, TO - COMBATING DISCRIMINATION, - REFORMING IMMIGRATION AND - DISMANTLING SYSTEMIC RACISM,

- WE CAN PULL TOTHER AND GET - BIG THINGS DONE. - >> Woodruff: SO ARE YOU SAYING - YOUR MESSAGE DOESN'T CHANGE? - >> WELL, THE VALUES - CHANGE. - WE'RE NOT GOING TO, YOU KNOW, - HAVENE FACE FORWARD TO ONE S - OFOTERS AND A DIFFERENT SE - FACE FORWARD IN A DIFFERENT - PLACE. - BUT IT'SERTAINLY THE CASE THAT - DIFFERENT CONCERNS ARE BEING - RAISED. - FOR EXAMPLE, IN NEVADAWE'RE - HEARING A LOT MORE ABOUT - CONCERNS RATED TO IMMIGRATION - AND HEARING A LOT FROMNION - WORKERS, INCLUDING HOTEL AND - SERVICE WORKERS, WITH HARD WON, - HARD FOUGHT BATTLES TO GET THEIR - HETH CARE PLANS, WHO ARE N - INTERESTED IN SENATOR SANDERS' - VISION OF ELIMINATING THEIR - PRIVATE HEALTH CAR - WE'RE ALSO GETTING A LOT OF - QUESTIONS FROM BLACK VOTERS - ABOUT A VISION AND AAGENDA FOR - BLACK AMERICANS, AT A TIME WHEN - WE HAVE SEEN ALL OF TH IN - WHICH SYSTEMIC RACISM HAS - PERSISTED AND LED TO A DIFFERENT - AMERICAN EXPERIENCE FOR SO MANY - BLACK AMERICANS, ON EVERYTHING - FROM HOW YOU EXPERIENCE THE - ECONOMY, TO THE HEALTH CARE - SYSTEM, TO THE CRIMINAL LEGAL - SYSTEM, TO OUR DEMOCRACY ITSELF. - >> Woodruff: YOU, OF COURSE,

- BRING UP SOUTH CAROLINA. - AFRICAN AMERICAN VOTERS COULD - AS MUCH AS 60% OF THE PRIMARY - THERE RIGHT NOW. - RIGHT NOW, YOU ARE POLERY - LOW-- 2%, 3%, 4%. - THAT IS A BIG LEAP FOR YOU, - ISN'T IT?EL - >> THAT'S EXACTLY WHAT WE - NEED TO DO. - AND WHAT I'VE HEARD FROM A LOTCK - OF BOTERS IS THAT OUR - PLANS ARE APPRECIATED. - THE FREDERICK DOUGLASS PLAN IS - E MOST COMPREHENSIVE PLAN - OFFERED BY A PRESIDENTIAL - CANDIDATE TO TACKLE SYSTEMIC - RACISM. - BUT BEFORE ANYBODY CARR WHAT'S - IN YANS, THEY WANT TO KNOW - IF YOU'RE A SERIOUS CONTENDER. - AND I THINK UP UNTIL WE HA DTHE - RESULTS HERE IN IOWA AND - NEW HAMPSHIRE, IT WAS DIFFICULT - FOUS TO PROVE IT. - NOW, THE PROCESS OF PROVING IT - IS UNDERWAY. - ANFOR VOTERS WHO ARE LASER - FOCUSED ON ENSURING THAT WE WIN, - WHO DO N HAVE THE LUXURY OF - PURSUING IDEOLOGICAL PURITY OVER - AN INCLUSIVE COALITION FOR - VICTORY, THEY ARE GOING TO BE, - I THINK, VERY PRAGMATIC AND VERY - DEMANDING ABOUT DEMONSTRATING - THAT THE CAMPAIGNS HAVE A PL - TO DEFEAT DONALD TRUMP. - >> Woodruff: AS YOU KNOW, THERER - THERE ARE PARTS OF YOUR - RECORD AS MAYOR OF SOUTH BEND - WITH THE AFRICAN AMERICANTIES

- LEADERSHIP IN YOUR COMMUNITY. - WHY SHOULDN'T YOU EXPECT YOUR - OPPONENTS TO COME AFTER YOU? - FOR THERE TO BE REALLY TOUGH - QUESTIONS NOW ABOUT HOW YOU DEAL - WITH NOT JUST AFRICAN AMERICAN - VOTERS, BUT THE AFRICAN AMERICAN - POWER STRUCTURE IN THE - DEMOCRATIC PARTY? - >> WELL, I'M NOT JUST BRINGING - RECEIPTS, I'M BRINGING ALLIES. - THE MAJORITY OF BLACK LEADERS - FROM MY COMMUNITY WHO HAVE - GOTTEN INVOLVED IN THIS RACE ARE - SUPPORTING ME. - AND I'LL INVITE THEM ON THE - TRAIL WITH ME TO EXPLAIN WHY, TO - TELL OUR STORY. - WHEN YOU ARE A MAYOR, YOU DON'T - GET TO JUST OPINE ON THESE - ISSUES, OR TALK ABOUT WHAT - SHOULD HAPPEN. - YOU'RE ON THE GROUND TRYING TO - GET THINGS DONE. - AND IN THE RESULTS THAT WE'VE - LIVERED, CUTS TO THE BLACK - UNEMPLOYMENT AND BLACK POVERTY - RATE FASTER THAN WHAT HAPPENEDOU - AROUND THERY, NATIONAL - RECOGNITION FOR OUR WORK, REAL - REFORM. - AND IN THE AREAS WHERE WGGHAVE - MAJOR STS AND WE'RE, WE'RE - CONTINUING TO PUSH, WE CAN TALK - ABOUT EVERYTHING THAT WENT WELLW - AND WHY AND WHLEARNED WHEN - THINGS DID NOT. - SOME PEOPLE HAVE PT LABELPURITY. - ON BERNIE SANDERS, BUT THE - MODERATES IN THE DEMOCRATIC

- PARTY WHO ARE SEARCHING, YOU'VE - T A LOT OF COMPETITION. - AND AMY KLOBUCHAR. - IT'S VIRTUALLY EVERYBODY ELSE IN - THE CAMPAIGN. - HOW DO YOU DISTINGUISH YOURSELF? - >> WELL, I THINK THE WAY THAT WE - HAVE ADVANCED TO THE FRONT OF - THAT GROUP IS BY OFFERING A - VISION THAT'S NOT JUST CLE IN - TERMS OF POLICY, BUT - BELONGING IN OUR CAMPAIGN THAT - REFLECTS THE BELONGING WE WANT - TO BUILD IN THE COUNTRY AS A - WHOLE. - AND LET'S BE CLEAR, THE IDEAS - THAT I'M PUTTING FORWARD ARE - BOLD IDEAS. - THEY WOULD MAKE ME THE MOST - PROGRESSIVE PRESIDENT WE'VE HAD - IN A HALF-CENTURY. - BUT I'M ALSO BUILDING THEM IN A - WAY THAT IS INCLUSIVE. - THIS, THIS IS NOT THE TIME FOR S - POLIF "MY WAY OR THE - HIGHWAY." - IF YOUR ONLY CHOICES ARE BETWEEN - A REVOLUTION AND THE STATUS QUO, - THAT'S A VISION THAT LEAVES MOST - AMERICANS OUT. - AND I THINK CHALLENGING THAT - VISION WITH A MORE INCLUSIVE ONE - IS HOW WE HAVE BEEN ABLE TO GET - THE RESULTS THAT WE HAD, BOTH IN - IOWA AND NEW HAMPSHIRE, ACROSS - DIFFERENT AGE GROUPS, DIFFERENT - KINDS OF COMMUNITIES.WE - NOAKE THAT MESSAGE - FORWARD. - >> Woodruff: MONEY. H - YOUR OPPONENE COME AFTER - YOU FOR SPENDING A LOT OF TIME

- TALKING TO MILLIONAIRES ANDIR - BILLIO, RAISING MONEY FOR - YOUR CAMPAIGN. - YOU'RE NOT A WEALTHY PERSON. - YOU'VE GONE TO OTHERS WHO AR - WEALTHY. - THERE'S EVERY REASON TO BELIEVE - THEY'RE GOING TO CONTINUE TOAR - MAKE THAMENT. - IS THERE SOME OTHER MESSAGE YOU - CAN GIVE TO THE AMERICAN PEOPLE - ABOUT HOW YOU ARE NOT DEPENDENT - ON THE WEALTHIEST TO KEEP YOUR - CAMPAIGN GOING? - >> LOOK, THE VAST MAJORITY OF MY - TIME IS SPENT ENGAGING VOTERS - AND THE VAST MAJORITY - SUPPORT FOR MY CAMPAIGN HAS COME - FROM THE GRASSROOTS. - WE HAVE HUNDREDS OF THOUSANDS OF - DONORS TO THIS CAMPAIGN. - OVER TWO MILLION DONATIONSAND - I THINK THE AVERAGE IS LESS THAN - 40 BUC. - WE'RE FOLLOWING THE FUNDRAISING - PRACTICES AND HOLDING OURSELVES - TO THEAME STANDARDS THAT - DEMOCRATS AND DEMOCRATIC - ORDER TO MAKE SUREWE BUILDVE, IN - A POWERFUL CAMPAIGN ORGANIZATION - THAT WILL BE PREPARED TO GO UP - AGAINST DONALD TRUMP IN THE - FIGHT OF OUR LIVES. - I'M NOT DEFINING MY CAMPAIGN BY - WHOSE HELP WE REJECT OR WHO WE - TURN AWAY. - IN ORDER TO COMPETE AGAINST A

- PRESIDENT AND HIS ALLIES WHO - HAVE RAISED ASTONISHING SUMS O - MONEY IN ORDER TO KEEP THEIR - GRIP ON POR, WE NEED TO GO - IN THIS FIGHT WITH EVERYTHING - >> Woodruff: FINAL QUESTION. - WASHINGTON, I'M SURE YOU - KNOW, IN THE LAST DAY, A HUGE - THE JUSTICE DEPARTMENT IN THET - HE WAS FOUND GUILTY OF LYING, - OBSTRUCTION, SENTENCED TO SIX TO - NINE YEARS. - THE ATTORNEY GENERAL APPARENTLY - HIMSELF STEPPED IN, REDUCING THE - SENTENCE - IT'S NOT CLEAR WHY THIS HAS - HAPPENED, BUT FOUR OF THE - PROSECUTORS IN THE CASE HAVE NOW - REHEGNED. - SHOULD BE A SPECIAL - PROSECUTOR? - WHAT SHOULD HAPPEN AT THISIN - HOW SERIOUS A DEVELOPMENT? - >> IT'S VERY SERIOUS. - WHAT KIND OF COUNTRY IS THIS IF - BECAUSE THE PRESIDENT ORE - THESIDENTIAL APPOINTEE PUT - SQUEEZE INTERNALLY ON THE - PROCESS OF DELIVERING JUICE? - THIS IS NOT AMERICA. - THIS IS NO W TO RUN THINGS. - ALTHOUGH, WE'RE ALSO, I THINK, - NOT THAT SURPRISEDHAT A TRUMP

- ADMINISTRATION, EMBOLDENED BY - E RESULT AFTER IMPEACHMENT, - THINKS IT CAN GET AWAY WITH THIS - SORT OF THING. - ULTIMATELY, WHILE I CERTAINLY - BELIEVE THERE OUGHT TO BE AN - INVESTIGATION INTO HOW THIS - HAPPENED, ULTIMATELY, I THINK - THE MOST LIKELY REMEDY IS THE - ONE THAT WE'RE IN THE MIDDLE OF - PURSUING RIGHT NOW. - AS I OFTEN REMIND VOTERS, YOU - KNOW, LAST WEEK,HE SENATE WAS - THE JURY, BUT NOW THE VERDICIS - UP TO US. - THE FINAL VERDICT ON THISHAVE - PRESIDENT, AND AN AWFUL LOT OF - THE SENATORS WHO PROTECTED THIS - PRESIDENT. - LET'S MAKE THE ABSOLUTE MOST OF - THIS MOMENT AND PUT TOGETHER THE - MAJORITY THAT WILL WIN SO BIG - THAT NOT ONLY IS TRUMP A ONE- - SMRM PRESIDENT, BUT TRUM - GOES INTO THE HISTY BOOKS AND - EVEN REPUBLICAN SENATORS ARE - CEUNITED WITH THEIR CONSCI - >> Woodruff: SO, JUST QUICKLY, - NO SPECIAL PROSECUTOR. - >> I THINK THAT WOULD BE - APPROPRIATE. - TI WOULD BE ASTONISHED IF - HAPPENS. - BUT THE BOTTOM LINE IS THAT - ERE NEEDS TO BE WHOLESAL - CHANGE. - AND IN ORDER TO DELIVER THAT, - WE NEED A NEW PRESIDND - WE NEED AN AWFUL LOT OF NEW - CONGRESSIONAL LEADERS. - >> Woodruff: THANK YOU VERY

- MUCH. - >> GOOD TO BE WITH YOU, JUDY, - THANK YOU. - OC Woodruff: WE WILL LOOK AT THE - STATE OF THE DEMRATIC RACE - GOING FORWARD A LITTLE LATER IN - THE PROGRAM. - >> Woodruff:N THE DAY'S - OTHER NEWS, THE WORLD HEALTH - ORGANIZATION IS VOICING HOPE - THAT THE CORONAVIRUS OBREAK IN - CHINA MAY BE SLOWING. - AS OF TONIGHT, CHINA HAS - REPORTED 44,600 CASES AND SOME - 1.100 DEATHS. - BUT, NEW INFECTIONS ARE - DECLINING, AS BEIJING ENFORCES - SWEEPING PUBLIC HEALTH MEASURESN - WHO OFFICIALS SAY THE - SITUATION ELSEWHERE IS MORE - PROMISING. - >> IT IS VY HARD TO PREDICT, - BUT WE DEFINITELY SEE THE - BEHAVIOR OF THE VIRUS OUTSIDE - WUHAN AND HUBEI AND THE REST OF - CHINA AND OUTSIDE CHINA, IT - DOESN'T AT THIS POINT APPEAR TOA - AGGRESSIVE OR AS - ACCELERATED, AND THAT'S A GOOD

- SIGN. - >> Woodruff: MEANWHILE, INESE - PRESIDENT XI JINPING PROMISED - TAX CUTS AND OTHER MEASURES - TODAY, TO LIMIT DAMAGE TO THE - CHINESE ECONOMY. - IN NORTHEASTERN SYRIA,PO - GOVERNMENT SERS ATTACKED - U.S. TROOPS TODAY, AND THE - TROOPS, IN TURN, SHOT AND KILLET - ONE OF SYRIANS. - STATE TV SHOWED PEOPLE THROWING - THROUGH A CHECKPOINT.D - THEN, SOME OF THE MEN FIRED - AUTOMATIC RIICES AT THE - AMS. - THE U.S. MILITARY SAID THE - TROOPS RETURNED FIRE IN SELF- - DEFENSE. - AN INVESTIGATION IS UNDERWEG. - THE LATESTIATIONS ON PEACE - IN AFGHANISTAN MAY HAVE REACHE - A CRUCIAL POINT. - TALIBAN OFFICIALS SAY THEY HAVE - OFFERED TO CURTAIL ATTACKS FOR - ONE WEEK, BUT THEY THREATEN TO - WALK AWAY IF THE U.S. DOES NOT - RESPOND. - THE ULTIMATUM COMES U.S. - OFFICIALS HAVE SIGNALED AN - AGREEMENT TO END THE 18-YEARAR - MAY BE CLOSE. - MEANWHILE, THE U.S. MILITARY - SAYS LIMITS ON MONEY AND - MANPOWER HAVE CURBED ITS FIGHT - AGAINST TERROR GROUPS ACROSS - WEST AFRICA. - A REPORT BY THREE INSPECTORS

- GENERAL FINDS THE FOCUS IN THE - SAHEL REGION HAS MOVED FROM - ATTACKING INSURGENTS TO - CONTAINING THEIR SPREAD. - AT THE SAME TIME, THE REPORT - SAYS EXTREMIST VIOLENCE IN THE - REGION HAS SPIKED. - POPE FRANCIS REFUSED TODAY TO - ORDAIN MARRIED MEN, IN ORDER TO - ADDRESS A SHORTAGE OF PRIESTS IN - SOUTH AMERICA'S AMAZON REGION.OP - BIFROM THAT AREA HAD - PROPOSED THE MOVE. - IT WOULD HAVE BEEN A DRAMATICIF - IN THE ROMAN CATHOLIC - CHURCH'S CENTURIES-OLD POLICIES. - A TOP CARDINAL AT THE VATICAN - SAID THAT THE POPE FAVORS OTHER - IDEAS, INSTEAD. - >> HE LOOKS TOHEISHOPS, FOR - EXAMPLE, TO SEND MORE - MISSIONARIES. - HE WOULD LIKE EVERY DIOCESVETO - GOOD PROPORTION OF THEIR - PRIESTS SPENDING AT LEAST SOMETH - TIME IAMAZON. - WITHIN THIS RANGE OF - POSSIBILITIES, THERE WILL BE - MANY WAYS OF RESPONDING TO - THE NEEDS FOR THE EUCHARIST - AND THE SACRAMENTS THROUGHOUT - THE AMAZON. - >> Woodruff: POPE FRANCIS ALSO - DIISSED A RECOMMENDATION T - LET CATHOLIC WOMEN SERVE AS

- DEACONS IN THE AMAZON. - BRITAIN HAS ANNOUNCED THAT IT - WILL GIVE GOVERNMENT REGULATORS - THE PO SANCTION SOCIAL - MEDIA COMPANIES FOR HARMFUL - MATERIAL ON THEIR PLATFORMS. - IT COULD MEAN FINES FOR FAILING - TO TAKE DOWN CONTENT SUCAS - CHILD ABUSE, CYBER BULLYING AND - TERRORIST PROPAGANDA. - FACEBOOK AND YOUTUBEAID THAT - THEY SUPPORT THE PROPOSED - REGULATIONS. - ON WALL STREET TODAY, SOLID R - EARNINORTS PUSHED STOCKS - HIGHER. - THE DOW JONES INDUSTRIAL AVERAGE - GAINED 275 POINTS TO CLOSE AT - 29,551. - THE NASDAQ ROSE 87 POINTS TO A - RECORD CLOSE, AND THE S&P 500 - POD 21, ALSO A NEW HIGH. - AND, A STANDARD ODLE NAMED - SIBA IS THIS YEAS TOP DOG AT - SHOW, THE NATION'SEST. CLUB - THE THREE-YEAR-OLD POODLE TOOKBE - -IN-SHOW LAST NIGHT IN NEW - YORK, BEATING OUT FAN-FAVORITES - DANIEL, A GOLDEN RETRIEVER, AND

- CONRAD, THE SHETLAND SHEEPDOG. - RD'S THE FIRST TIME A STAN - POODLE HAS WON AT WESTMINSTER - SINCE 1991. - CONGRATULATIONS. - STILL TO COME ON THE NEWSHOUR: - CRISIS AT THE DEPARTMENT OF - JUSTICE, AS PRESIDENT TRUMP - TRIES TO TAKE THE LAW INTO HIS - OWN HANDS. - THE SHAPE OF THE RACE FOR 2020 - AFTER BERNIE SANDERS CLAIMS - VICTORY IN NEW HPSHIRE. - AND, MUCH MORE. - >> Woodruff: ULTIMATELY, IT' - FOR A JUDGE TO DECIDE. - BUT THE WRANGLING IN THE U.S. - JUSTICE DEPARTMENT OVER HOW MUCH - JAIL TIME A CONVICTED TRUMP - CONFIDANTE SHOULD RECEIVE HAS - LED TO A SECOND STRAIGHT DAY OF - TURMOIL. - YAMICHE ALCINDOR BEGINS THERE. - >> Alcindor: TODAY, OUTRAGE ON - CAPITOL HILL OVER THE JUSTICE - DEPARTMENT'S NEW SENTENCING - RECCOMENDATION FOR ROGER STONE.

- >> WHAT IS MORE SWAMPY? - WHAT IS MORE FETID, WHAT IS MORE - STINKY THAN THE MOST POWERFUL - PERSON IN THE COUNTRY LIRALLY - CHANGING THE RULES TO BENEFIT A - CRONEY GUILTY OF BREAKING THE - LAW? - >> Alcindor: CONGRESSIONAL - DEMOCRATS AREN'T ALONE. - YESTERDAY, FOUR CAREER - PROSECUTORS WITHDREW FROM THE - CASE SEEMINGLY IN PROTEST. - THE PROBM? - THE D.O.J. DECIDED TO REJECT - THEIR RECOMMENDATION OF A SEVEN - TO NINE YEAR PRISON SENTENCE FON - THE PRESIDENT SOUNDED OFF FROM - THE OVAL OFFICE TODAY DURING A - MEETING WITH THE PRESIDENT OF - ECUADOR. - >> HE WAS TREATED VERY BADLY. - NINE YEARS RECOMMENDED BY FOUR - MUELLER PE, I DONT KNOW WHOERE - THEY WE, PROSECUTORS. - IT'S A DISGRACE AND,R FANKLY, - THEY OUGHT TO APOLOGIZE TO A LOT - OF THE PEOPLE WHOSE LIVES - THEY'VE RUINED. - >> Alcindo STONE, A LONGTIME - FRIEND AND ALLY OF PRESIDENT - TRUMP, WAS FOUND GUILTY LAST - NOVEMBER ON SEVEN CHARGES, - INCLUDING WITNESS TAG AND - LYING TO CONGRESS.

- THE CHARGES ALL RELATE TO - RUSSIAN MEDDLING IN TH2016 - PRESIDENTIAL ELECTION. - CRITICS OF PRESIDENT TRUMP SAY - HE UNFAIRLY INTERFERED IN THE - CASE TO HELP FRIEND. - THIS MORNING, WHITE HOUSE DEPUTY - PRESS SECRETARY HOGAN GIDLEY - DENIED ANY INTERFENCE. - HE ALSO DEFENDED THE PRESIDENT'S - RIGHT TO VOICE HIS OPINIONS ON - THE CASE. - >> THE PRESIDENT DIDN'T HAVE A - CONVERSATION WITH THE ATTORNEY - GENERAL AT ALL, BUT HE HAS THE - RIGHT TO DO IT. - JUST BECAUSE SOMEONE HAPPENS TO - BE WRAPPED UP IN A 2.5-YEAR - INVESTIGATION THAT HAS SPENT - TAX PAYER DOLLARS, DOESN'T MEA - THE PRESIDENT DOESN'T HAVE A - RIGHT TO COMMENT ON IT, WHETHER - HE KNOWS THEM OR NOT. - >> Alcindor: SENATE MINORITY - LEADER CHUCK SCHUMER CALLED ON - THE JUDICIARY COMMITTEE TODAY TO - CONDUCT AN EMERGENCY HEARING ON - THE CASE. - A JUDGE TODAY REJECTED A REQUESS - FRNE FOR A NEW TRIAL. - HIS SENTENCING HEARING IS - SCHEDULED FOR NEXT WEEK.US - NOW, ARE THECE - DEPARTMENT'S MOVES HERE - JUSTIFIED, OR IS THE AGENCY - CROSSING A LINE?RV - MARY McCORD FOR NEARLY - 20 YEARS IN THE OFFICE THAT - PROSECUTED THE CASE AGAINST - ROGER STONE. - SHE LATER BECAME THE - DEPARTMENT'S TOP NATIONAL - CURITY OFFICIAL, AND IS NOW A - LITIGATOR AT GEORGETOWN

- WAIVERSITY. - AND, JAMES TRUSTPREVIOUSLY - A FEDERAL PROSECUTOR IN MARYLAND - BEFORE BECOMING CHIEF OF THE - JUDICE DEPARTMENT'S "ORGANI - CRIME" SECTION. - HE IS NOW IN PRIVATE PRACTICE. - THANKS TO BOTH OF YOU FOR BEING - HERE. - MARY McCORD, I'M GOING TO - START WITH YOU. - WHAT DO YOU MAKE OF WHAT'S - HAPPENG SURROUNDING THE - SENTENCING OF ROGER STONE AND - WHAT DO YOU THINK IT MIGHTO TOIB - THE CRITY OF THE JUSTICE - DEPARTMENT? - >> I THINK THIS CAUSES REALLY - CREDIBILITY AND REPUTATION OF - THE JUSTICE DEPARTMENT. - THE PROSECUTORS HERE SIGNED A - SENTENCING MEMORANDUM WITH A - RECOMMENDATION IN IT, AND TE - JUDICIARY IS ENTITLED TO RELY ON - THOSE REPRESENTATIONS AS THE - VOICE OF - OF JUSTICE IN THIS CRIMINAL - CASE. - AND UNDER DEPARTMENT POLICY, I - ANY HGH PROFILE CASE, DECISIONS - SUCH AS SENTENCING GO ALL THEY - THE FLAG POLE. - SO THIS WOULD HAVE BEEN - DISCUSSED WITH THE DEPUTY - ATTORNEYENERAL'S OFFICE, THE - ATTORNEY GENERAL'S OFFICE BEFORE - ANY RECOMMENDATION WAS MADE, SO - TO HAVE THAAT THEN PULLEDCK - AND UNERMINED AND A NEW FILING

- COME THE NEXT DAY IS VERY - UNPRECEDENTED ANPLHARD TO - N OTHER THAN IT BEING IN - RESPONSE TO THE PRESIDENT'S - TWEETS AND THE PRESIDENT'S - SPLEASURE AND DISSATISFACTION - WITH THE RECOMMENDED SENTENCE. - AND, SO, THAT FACT IN AND OF - CREDIBILITY OF THE JUSTICE - DEPARTMENT IN THE EYES OF THE - COURT AND ALSO THE EYES OF THE - AMERICAN PEOPLE. - >> Reporter: JAMES, SHE'S - SAYING THIS COULD HARM TAGHTSY'S - CREDIBILITY. - IS THD.O.J. IMMUNE TO - POLITICALIZATION? - >> YOU WANT A SYSTEM WHERE IT'S - AN APOLITICAL ENTITY, BUT YOU - HAVE TO KEEP IN MIND THE - PRESIDENT AND THE ATTORNEY - GENERAL CABE CHUMY. - YOU HAD ONE PRESIDENT WHO PICKED - HIS BROTHER TO BEATHRNEY - GENERAL. - THE QUESTION IS WHETHER THAT - RELATIONSHIP AND ANY - CONVERSATION THEY HAVE TRICKLES - DOWNO IN SME UNTOWARD WAY, - WHETHER THAT SOMEHOW JEOPARDIZES - THE NOTION OF PURSUING SMALL "J" - JUSTICE THEY'RE ALL SUPPOSED TO - HAVE.

- WHEN YIS'RE LOOKING AT TCASE - IT'S PLAYING OUT OPENLY WHICH - CREATES A CIRCUMSTANCES AND ALL - SORTS OF POLITICAL ASPECTS OF - THAT. - BUT THE NARROW ISSUE IS WHAT'S - FAIR IN THE CASE OF THIS GUY - NAMED STONE. - A LOT OF PEOPLE WOULD LOOK - THE CALCULATIONS THAT STARTED - THIS OFF AND SAY THEY'RE GOING - HARD TO COME UP WITH A 7, 8, 9 - YEAR RANGE INSTEAD OF 2 OR 3 OR - 4. - THERE'S A NADIRROW FACTUASPUTE - UNDERNEATH IT WHICH DRIVES THE - GUIDELINES WHICH DRIVES THE - RECOMMENDATION. - >> Reporter: SPEAKING OF YOU, - ESIDENT TRUMP CALLED THSE - PROSECUTORS MUELLER PEOPLE, - FORMER SPECIAL PROSECUTOR. - THAT BEING SAID, FOUR - PROSECUTORS SEEMINGLYGNED - IN PROTEST. - HOW UNUSUAL IS THIS? - >> THAT'S VERY UNUSUAL.LO - , N NO TTER WHAT THE MERITS - ARE ATTEND OF THE DAY, FOURLT - PROSECUTORS TRONGLY. - ONE LEFT THE DEPARTMENT OF - JUSTICE, ONE HEADED OR BALT - WHERE HE HAD BEEN WORKING SO IT - WASN'T QUITE THE SAME LEVEL OF - SACRIFIC BUT THERE'S CLEARLY A - COMMUNICATION BREAK HERE AND - PROBLEMS IN TERMS TO HAVE THE

- LINE ATORNEYS, THE SUPERVISORS - AND MAYBE CROSSING OVER TO, - D.O.IN JUSTICE. - >> Reporter: I WANT TO GO TO - YOU FOR A HYPOTHETICAL WHICH - SOME PEOPLE THINK HAPPENED WHICH - IS WHAT RIFESIDENT TRUMP DID - CALL ATTORNEY GENERAL BARR AND - SAY MY FRIEND IS BEING POSSIBLY - SENTENCED, CAN YOU PLEASE LOWER - THAT SENTENCING RECOMMENDATION? - AND THETHE DEPARTMENT OF - JUSTICE, POSSIBLY AGAIN AN - ATTORNEY GENERAL, SAYS, YES, - BECAUSE THE ESIDENT'S FRIEND - IS FACING THIS, WE'RE GOING TO - LOWER OUR SENTENCING. - IS, FIRST, THE PRESIDENT'S CALL - ILLEGAL AND IS THE DEPARTMENT OF - JUSTICE RESPONDING TO THE - PRESIDENT ILLEGAL? - >> IT'S NOT. - AS JIM SAID, YOU KNOW, THE - ATTORNEY GENERAL AND THE - PRESENT CAN BE AS CHUMMY A - THEY WANT. - IN FACT, THE ATTORNEY GENERAL IS - AN EXECUTIVE BRANCH OFFICIAL WHO - REPORTS DIRECTLY TO THE - PRESIDENT, BUT HISTORICALLY ANDG - FOR VEOD REASON, BOTH THE - DEPARTMENT OF JUSTICE AND THE - WHITE HOUSE HAVE HAD STRICT - POLICIES THAT BAR, IN MOST - CIRCUMSTANCES, COMMUNICATIONS - BETWEEN THE WHITE HOUSE AND THE - DEPARTMENT OF JUSTICE ABOUT - INDIVIDUAL DECISIONS IN - INDIVIDUAL CASES. - AND THE REASON FOR THAT IS TO

- MAINTAIN THE INDEPENDENCE OF THE - DEPARTMENT OF JUSTICETO ASSICE - THE AM PEOPLE THAT THE - DEPARTMENT IS NOT JUST THE ARM - OF THEHIPRESIDENT, FOM TO - WIELD WHATEVER HE WANTS FOR HIS - POLITICAL PURPOS, IN - PARTICULAR WE'RE TALKING ABOUT - CRIMINAL PROS CUES THAT COME OUT - OF THE DEPARTMENT OF JUSTICE, - LIT TO EST WE MAINTAIN - THIS TYPE OF INDEPENDENCE, AND - WHEN THAT'S BROKEN DOWN, WHETHER - THROUGH ACTUAL DIRE PHONE - CALLS OR CONVERSATIONS OR - THROUGH PUBLICLY MAKING - STATEMENTS AS THE PRESIDENT HAS - DONE, LIKELY EXCORIATING THE - RECOMMENDAON AND, YOU KNOW,ON - CALLINDODGE LEADERSHIP TO - DO SOMETHING ABOUT IT, AND THEN, - OF COURSE, THANKING THEM FOR - DOING SOMETHING ABOUT IT, EITHER - WAY, THAT SORT OF VIOLATES THESE - INTERNAL GUIDANCES THAT ARE - THERE FOR GOOD REASONS. - IF I MAY, I WOULD QUARREL - LITTLE BIT WITH JIM SAYING THE - ISSUE HERE IS THE SENTENCE. - I THINK THAT'S -- REASONABLE - MINDS CAN DIFER ABOUT WHETHER A - SENTENCE IN THE GUIDELINE RANGE - OF SEVEN TO NINE YEARS IS TOO

- HARSH FOR THIS CONDUCT, AND I'M - SURE REASONABLE MINDS IN THE - CONSULTATIONS DID DIFFER ABOUT - THAT. - TO ME, WHAT IS SO DRAMATIC AND - OUTRAGEOUS ABOUT THIS CASE IS - THE FACT THAT THE DEPARTMENT - APPEARED TO HAVE RESPONDED TO AI - CT -- EITHER DIRECT OR - INDIRECT REQUEST FOR THE - PRESIDENT TO CHANGE A - RECOMMENDATION SO THAT HE COULD - DO A FAVOR TO ONE OF HIS - PERSONALORIENDS AND SOMEONE W - HAD GONE OUT IN THE 2016AI - CA AND REALLY WELCOMED FOR - AN INTERFERENCE IN OUR ELECTION. - THAT'S TO ME THE REAL STORY. - >> PART OF WAT MARY McCORD - WAS TALKING ABOUT IS THE - PRESIDENT'S PUBLIC STATEMENTS. - I WANT TO POINT OUT TO ONE. - HE'S BEEN GOING OFF JUDGE APPLY - BERMAN JACKSON.H - A TWEESENT OUT, HE TWEETED - IS THIS THE JUDGE THAT PU PAUL - MANAFORT IN SOL DARE - CONFINEMENT, SOMETHINGOT N - AL CAPONE HAD TO ENDURE, HOW DID - E TREAT CROOKED HILLARY - CLINTON? - JUST ASKING.

- PAUL MANAFORT WAS A MEMBER TO - HAVE THE PRESIDENT'S 2016 - CAMPAIGN AND IS IN PRISON R - UNRELATED CRIMES THAT HAVE TO DN - WITH FCES. - SHOULD A PRESIDENT GO AFTER A - JUDGE? - THE AMERICAN BAR TSSOCIATION - SAAT'S NOT A THING FOR THE - PUBLIC OFFICIALS TO BE DOING. - >> I HAVE BEEN A PROSECUTOR FO - THREE AND MANY YEARS IN PUBLIC - PRACTICE. - IT'S NOT COMFORTABLE TO SEE CRIT - WE ALHAVE TOUGH TRIALS AND SAY - WE GOT THE WRONG CALL AND YOU GO - HOME IN THE BACKYARD AND MUTT - AROUND DRINK A BEER AND GET OVER - IT. - SO IT'S VERY DIFFERENT - PLATFORM, OBVIOUSLY, WHEN A - PERSONALLY CRITICIZE THESEITY TO - JUDGES. - HE'S GOT A LOT OF LEGITIMATE - FRUSTRATION IN TERMS OF THE LAST - FEW YEARS BUT CALLING OUT JUD - BY NAME IS NOT PARTICULAR - HELPFUL FOR THE CRIMINAJUSTICE - SYSTEM OR RESPECT THE OTHER - PEOPLE WILL HAVE FOR THE SYSTEM - WHICH IS WHAT WEORRY ABOUT. - >> Reporter: THIS ISOT THE - RST TIME PRESIDENT TRUMP HAS - GONE AFTER A JUDGE. - BUT THANK YOU SO MUCH TO BOTH - YOU HAVE FOR BEING HERE MARY

- McCORD AND JAM TRUSTY,I - REALLY APPRECIATE IT. - >> THANK YOU. - >> Woodruff: STAY WITH US. - COMI UP ON T NEWSHOUR: - ENGINEERS DEVELOTIA CONCRETE - SO FOR THE NATION'S - CRUMBLING INFRASTRUCTURE. - AND, THE LATEST PICK FROM THE - "NEWSHOUR BOOKSHELF:" ISABEL - ALLENDE'S "A LONG PETAL OF THE - SEA." - BUT FIRST, WE'LLHECK IN ON - THE STATE OF THE DEMOCRATIC - PRESIDENTIAL PRIMARY, AND WHAT - TO EXPECT AS CANDIDATES SET - EIR SIGHTS NOW ON NEND - SOUTH CAROLINA. - TO GIVE US A SENSE OF HOW THINGS - ARE SHAPING UP: LAUREN CHOOLJIAN - OF NEW HAMPSHIRE PUBLIC RADIO, A - JOINING IN FROM - MANCHESTER. - THELISHA EADDY OF SOUTLINA - PUBLIC RADIO, JOINING US FROM - COLUMBIA. - AND JON RALSTON OF THE NEVADA - "INDEPENDENT," JOINING US FROM - LAS VEGAS, WHERE HE WILL BE - MODERATING NEXT WEDNESDAY'S - DEMOCRATIC DEBATE. - WELCOME TO YOU ALL.E - WELC ALL OF YOU AND LAUREN

- CHOOLJIAN, I'M GOING TO START - WITH YOU. - HERE WE ARE THE DAY AFTER - NEW HAMPSHIRE, YOU'VE HAD A - CHANCE TO LOOK AT IT. - OUT TURNOUT AND ABOUT, IN KN - GENERAL, WHAT WERE VOTERS SAYING - ABOUT THESE CANDIDATES? - >> THE TURNOUT NUMBERS AE STILL - GETTING FINALIZED, JUDY, BUT - WHAT WE CAN SAY FOR SURE IS THE - TURNOUT DI EXCEED 2008 NUMBERS - IN THE DEMOCRATIC PRIMARY. - REPUBLICAN NUMBERS WERE ALSO - QUITE HIGH. - THE QUESTION, THOUGH, IS HOW THE - NUMBERS OF ELIGIBLE VOTERSER - CHANGE AND WHEHAT - INDICATES THAT THERE WAS - ACTUALLY, LIKE, A BIG PERCENTAGT - NOUT OR NOT. - BUT WHAT WE DO KNOW IS THAT - BERNIE SANDERS DID WHAT HE WAS - HOPING TO DO WHICHIS REALLY - TURNING OUT VOTERS IN STUDENT - TOWNS LIKE DURHAM, PLYMOUTH, - KEEN, WHERE THERE ARE BIG - SCHOOLS HERE AND THAT'S WHAT HE - WAS HOPING TO DO AND THAT'S WHAT - HE DID. - BUT PETE BUTTIGIEG AND AMY - KLOBUCHAR ARE FIGHTING IT OUT - FOR THE MODETE VOTERS. - WE'VE TALKED ABOUT THE - PROGRESSIVE VERSUS MODERATE - SPLIT. - GOING FORWARD, THEY'RG TO - BE TRYING TO BEAT EACH OTHER OUT - FOR THE MODERATE VOTERS IN THE - NEXT COMING STATES.

- >> Woodruff: JON RALSTON, NEXT - STATE UP IS NEVADA ON THE 22nd . - SO TELL US HOW -- YOU'RE TALKINR - TO THESE VOT YOU'RE TALKING - TO FOLKS IN THE DEMOCRATIC PARTY - ALL THE TIME, HOW DO THEY READ - THESE RESULTS IN NEW HAMPSHIRE? - >> I DON'T THINK THEY SURPRISED - THEM THAT MUCH, JUDY, AF WTT - HAPPENED IN IOWA. - THE REAL ISSUE HERE IS THAT JOE - DEN HAS BEEN AHEAD IN THE - POLLS SINCE ANY POLLS STARTED TO - BE TAKEN HERE. - THRFNS BEEN ANY IN A WHILE, BUT - SUSPECT THAT JOE BIDEN ONLY - GETTING 9% HERE IS A -- IN - NEW HAMPSHIRE IS A REAL PROBLEMA - FOR HISMPAIGN HERE. - BERNIE SANDERS HAS A GREAT - ORGANIZATION HERE, NOW 250 - STAFFERS ON THE GROUND, AND YOU - KNOWEHAT A SMALL STATE ARE, - JUDY, SO THAT'S A HUGE NUMBER. - MAYOR PETE IS NEXT WITH ABUT - 100. - SO I THINK BERNIE SANDERS, WHO - ALMOST WON HERE IN 2016, HAS AN - EVEN BETTER ORGANIZATION HERE - THIS TIME, HAS BEEN DOING PRETTY - WELL IN FOLLOWS, IS THE CLEAR - FAVORITE HERE NOW.

- >> Woodruff: AND THELISHA - EADDY, SOUTH CAROLINA, LET'S - TALK ABOUT JOE BIDEN. - HE WAS SAID TO HAVE A BIG - ADVANTAGE OVER FREARP VOTERS IN - OTUTH CAROLINA -- OVER - AFRICAN-AMERICANS IN - SOUTH CAROLINA. - IS THAT GOING TO HOLD? - >> YEAH, WE THINK SO, AT LEASTI - THE VOTERALKED TO THINK SO. - JOE BIDEN AND HIS WIFE DR. JOE - BIDEN WERE ACTUALLY HERE IN - COLUMBIA YESTERDAYT WHAT THEY - WERE CALLING A LODGE PARTY AND - RIT OFF THE BAT HE HAD HIGH - ENERGY, THE PEOPLE THERE HAD - HIGH ENERGY, BUT RIGHT OFF THET - E TOLD SUPPORTERS THERE THE - FIGHT TO END DONALD TRUMP'S - PRESIDENCY WAS JUST BEGINNI, - THAT THEY ONLY HEARD FROM TWO - HAVE NOD HEARD FRAT HETHAT WE - CALLED THE PARTY'S MOST - COMMITTED VOTERS AND THAT, OF - VOTERS HERE IN SOUTH CAROLINA, - THEY MAKE UP ABOUT OVER 60% OF - THE PARTY HERE. - SO A LOT OF PEOPLE ARE STILL - VERY EXCED ABOUT WHAT JOE - BIDEN CAN DO HERE IN - SOUTH CAROLINA BECAUSE OF THE - REALLY DEEP CONNECTIONS AND DEEP - ROOTS THAT HE HAS HERE IN THE - PALMETTO STATE.

- >> Woodruff: LAUREN CHOOLJIAN, - I WANT TO COME BACK TO YOU ON - NEW HAMPSHIRE AND LOOK AT ONE OF - THE REALLY INTERESTING BITS OF - INFORMATION ABOUT THESE VOTERS. - THERE IS SO MUCH TO PORE OVER. - LOOKING AT AGE, THE DEMOGRAPHIC, - 18 TO 29, LOOK HOW BERNIE - SANDERS CLEANED UP WITH ALMOST - 50% OTHOSE VOTERS, QUICKLY 30 - TO 44. - HE STILL WAS IN THE LED WITH - VOTERS 35 TO 64. - HE'S SHARING IT WIT - BUTTIGIEG, AMY KLOBUCHAR AND OF - COURSE THE OLDEST VOTERS SPLIT - AMONG KLOBUCHAR, SANDERS AND - PETE BUTTIGIEG. - WHAT DOES TH TELL US ABOUT - THESE CANDIDATES. - >> WE SAW THE TREND OLDER VOTERO - WERENG FOR BUTTIGIEG EARLY - IN THE CAMPAIG - AS KLOBUCHAR SURGED LATE IN THE - GAME, SHE STARTED TO PICK UP O - SOTHE VOTERS AS WELL. - THEY DID WELL IN HIGHLY EDUCATED - TOWNS IN NEW HAMPSHIRE, SOME OF - THE MORE AFFLUENT COMMUNITIES. - I THHEK WHAT IT MEANS IS WN - BERNIE SANDERS GOES NEVADA

- AND SOUTH CAROLINA, HE'S GOG - TO HAVE TO EXPAND BEYOND THE - YOUTH TURNOUT AND SEE IF HE CAN - PULL IN NEW VOTERS OTHER THAN - JUST FOC ON WHAT HE IS GOING - TO DO AS WEL - >> Woodruff: WHAT ABOUT HIS - MESSAGE, JON RALSTON? - YOU SAID HE SEEMS TO BE IN - STRONG SHAPE BUT HE'S GOING TO - HIM, PETE BUTTIGIEG, NEITHER ONE - OF THESE CANDIDATES IS GOING TO - SIT BACK AND LET BERNIE SANDERS - HAVE IT. - >> WHAT'S HAPPENING AFTTW THE - FIRSSTATES, YOU SEE BERNIE - SANDERS NOT BEING GIVEN THE - MANT OF FRONTRUNNER WHICH IS - SOMETHING ELSE CONSIDERING H HE - WON THE FIRST TWO STATES AND - REAL STORY BEING WHO IS GOING TO - BE SEEN AS THE ALTERNATIVE TO - BERNIE SANDERS, WHO CAN APPEAL - TO MORE MODERATEOTERS AND - COMMUNITIES OF COLOR, AND AMY - KLOBUCHAR MAKING THE GOOD - SHOWING IN THE DEBATE AND THEN - IN NEW HAMPSHIRE, BUTGOT HAV - MUCH OF AN ORGANIZATION HERE AT - ALL, HAS SUDDENLY BOUGHTA BUNCH - OF TELEVISION. - MAYOR PETE HAS HAD A ROBUST - ORGANIZATION HERE HOPING TO TAKE

- ADVANTAGE OF EXACTLY THE - SCENARIO THAT IS PLAYING OUT, - JUDY, IS HOW ELIZABETH WARREN, - WHO WAS A FEW MONTHS AGO BEING - TALKED ABOUT ALL OVER THE PLACEG - AS THE SUR CANDIDATE, HAS - DROPPED OUT OF THE CONVERSATIONA - AND, SOREN HAS A BIG - ORGANITION HERE AS WELL WAS - THE FIRST ON THE GROUND.E - THIS ISLLY A LAST STAND, I - THINK, FOR WARREN AND BIDEN IN - NEVADA GOING INTO SOUTH CAROLINA - BECAUSE WHATEVER STRENGTH BIDEN - HAS IN SOUTH CAROLINA IS NOT - GOING TO BE THE SAME, IF HE - LOSES E FIRST THREE STATES AND - ALSO RAN IN THE FIRST THREEST - ES. - >> Woodruff: SO INTERESTING TO - LOOK AT THAT AND CONTRAST WHERE - THE CANDIDATES ARE. - THELISHA EADDY, YOU TALKED ABOUT - JOE BIDEN AND AT THIS POI SNT - YOU'ING LOOKS LIKE HE'S - STRONG IN THE AFRICAN-AMERICAN - COMMUNITY. - OF NEW HAMPSHIRE, STRONG.NG T - BERNIE SANDERS, AMY, PETE - BUTTIGIEG. - AMY KLOBUCHAR.

- WHAT KIND OF ORGANIZATION DO - THEY HAVE IN SOU CAROLINA? - AT DOES IT LOOK LIKE FOR THEM - RIGHT NOW? - >> WHEN IT COMES TO BERNIE - SANDERS, YOU KNOW, HE'S DONE ARE - LY GOOD JOB OF LAYING OUT A - GOOD GRASSROS EFFORT IN - SOUTH CAROLINA. - UPCOMING UP THIS WEEKEND, HIS - CAMPAIGN WILL EYVE WHAT THE - CALLING A 900 VOLUNTEER SWITCH - THIS WEEKEND, KNONOCKINA LOT - OF DOORS. - HE WILL ACTUALLY BE BACK IN - THIS SATURDAY HE WILL BE IN THE - GREENVILLE AREA. - SO WE'RE SEEING THAT WHAT HE HAS - LAID OUT WHEN IT T COM - COMMUNITIES PEPPERED ALL ACROSS - THE STRAIT, REALLY WORKING IN - OR. FA - ALSO, WHEN IT COMES TO MAYOR - PETE, PETE BUTTIGIEG, HE IS - GEING A LOT OF BIG-NAME - RECOGNITION BY ASSOCIATION, IFWI - YOL. - HE HASN'T DONE WELL IN THE POLLS - HERE IN SOUTH CAROLINA, BUT HE - HAS A LOT OF PEOPLE WITH GREAT - ROOTS HERE IN SOUTH CAROLINA - WORKING FOR HIM. - SO ON SOME OF THE CAMPAIGN ADS - THAT ARE RUNNING ON TELEVISION - STATIONS HERE, WE'RE SEEING HIS - ASSOCIATION WITH CONGRESSMAN - SLIEBERN, CONGRESSMAN CLYBURN'S

- GRANDSON IS WORKING WITH HIM.EN - AN NGS NS WHO IS PIVOTAL - AND BUSING CHILDREN TO SCHOOLS - BACK IN THE DAY AND TRAVELING - ACROSS THE STATE AND REGISTERING - AFTCAN-AMERICAN VOTERS TO E. - SOUTH BEEN VERY INTERESTING TO - WATCH THOSE TWO CAMPAIGNS LEGAL - REALLY TRY TO DIG IN AND GAINFR - MOREAN-AMERICAN VOTERS - HERE. - >> Woodruff: AND THE OTHER - CANDIDATE I WANT TO BRING UP IS - MIKE BLOOMBERG. - HE INOT COMPETING IN THESE - FOUR STATES, JON, BUT HE ISE - LOOMING OUT , SPENDING A - TON OF MONEY IN THE 14 STATES - THAT ARE COMING UP RIGHT AFTER - SOUTH CAROLINA. - ARE YOU SEEING ANY EVIDEE OF - HIM IN NEVADA? - >> NO. - HE IS INVISIBLE HERE, JUDY. - BUT AS YOU WELLNKNOW, NOE HAS - EVER TRIED TO DO WHAT MICHAEL - BLOOMBERG IS TRYING TO DO WHICHH - IS TO SKIFIRST FOUR STATES - AND THEN HOPE THAT HE CAN MAKE A - SPLASH ON SUPER TUESDAY, AS YOU - MENTIONED.

- OF COURSE, NOBO HAS SPENT - BILLIONS OF DOLLARS TRYING TO DO - THAT EITHER. - SO IT'S AN OUTLIER, BUT,, AL - THERE IS THAT CONSTRUCT THAT WE - HAD KNOWN IN THE DEMOCRATIC - PARTY, IS BERNIE SANDERS GOING - TO HAVE ALL THIS MOMENTUM AFTRS - THE FOUR STATES, AND THEN - WHO IS THE ANTI-BERNIE - CANDIDATE? - ON TO THAT MANTEL? ABLE TO - CAN JOE BIDEN RESURRECT HIMSELF? - OR DOES THE DEMOCRATIC PARTY - TURN ITS LONELY EYES TO MICHAEL - BLOOMBERG AS THE ALDEFER T ALTEO - SANDERS. - TO USE THEEGAS LINGO, IT'S A - REAL GAMBLE. - >> Woodruf THELISHA EADDY, - YOU GET THE LAST WORD HERE. - Y SIGN OF MIKBLOOMBERG IN - SOUTH CAROLINA? - >> I ACTUALLY AGREE WITH WHAT HE - JUST SAID. - NOT THAT MUCH. - AT NONCANDIDATE EVENTS THAT I GO - TO WHERE WE HAVE A MIXTURE OF

- PEOPLE, DON'T HEAR A LOT OF - PEOPLE TALKING ABOUT MIKE - BLOOMBERG. - WHEN PEOPLE TELL ME THEY'RE - STILL UNDECIDED OR THEY'RE - LEANING TOWARDS A CADIDATE, BUT - THEY STILL WANT TO CONSIDER - IS NOT ONE T COMES UP. BLOOMBERG - OF COURSE, HE HAS THE SUPPORT OF - THE CAPITAL CITY MAORYTEVE - BENJAMIN, FIRST AFRICAN-AMERICAN - MAYOR OF THE CITY, BUTE EVN WITH - THAT REALLY POPULAR MAYOR BEHIND - HIM, I'M NOT SEEING AT LOT OF - PEOPLE TALK ABOUT HIM HERE. - >> Woodruff: AND I CAN'T LEAVE - WITHOUT ASKING JON RALSTON ABOUT - THE WAY DEMRA WILL BE - CHOOSING THEIR FAVORITE DEMOCRAT - WHEN NADA VOTES ON THE 22n - 22nd AND THAT ISAUCUSES. - THEY HAD TROUBLE WITH THEM IN - IOWA. - WHAT DOES ITIK LOOK IN - NEVADA? - >> WELL, I WAS A LOW BAR TO GET - OVER, RIGHT, IN NVADA, AND, SO, - THEY ARE TRYING TO DO THAT AND - THEY ARE OBVIOUSLY WORRIED,US - JUDY, BEOF THE OPTICS OF - WHAT HAPPENED IN IOWA, THE FACT - THAT THEY WERE GOING TO USE - ESSENTIALLY THE SAME TECHNOLOGY - WHICH THEY NOW DISCARDED, - EY'RE TRYING TO SIMPLIFY - EVERYTHING, AND THE STATE PARTY - HERE MAY BE THE BEST INHE

- COUNTRY. - THEY'RE THAT TALENTED. - BUT IT'S A CAUCUS. - THINGS ARE GOING TO GO WRONG, - AND YOTHROW IN THE PLY THAT - THEY'RE DOING EARLY VOTING THIS - TIME, JUDY, THAT STARTS SATURDAY - RE, FOR FOUR DAYS, AND THOSE - VOTES HAVE TO BE PROPERLY PLACED - IN THE RIGHT PRECINCTS SO THEY - GET THE RIGHT VIABILITY NUMBERS - ON CAUCU DAY, THERE ARE A LOT - OF CROSSED FINGERS DOWN AT - MOCRATIC PARTY HEADQUARTERS. - >> Woodruff: IT SOUNDS REALLY - SIMPLE TO ME. - I'M SRE IT GOING TO BE -- I'M - SURE IT WILL ALL GO DOWN - SMOOTHLY. - WE SHALL SEE.RA - JON STON, THELISHA EADDY, - LAUREN CHOOLJIAN, SO GOOD TO - HAVE ALL OF YOU. - THANK YOU. - >> THANKS, JUDY. - >> Woodruff: EVERY DAY, MILLIONS - OS AMERICANS CROSS ONE OF THE - 47,000 BRIDGES IN THE COUND Y IN - URGENT N REPAIR. - MANY ARE MADE OF CONCRETE, ONE - OF THE MOST IN-DEMD MATERIALS

- ON EARTH, SECOND ONLY TO WATER. - SPECIAL CORRESPONDENT CAT WISE - LOOKS AT A NEW TYPE OFETE - THAT SOME HAVE CALLED A "GAME - CHANGER" WHEN IT COMES TO - UPKEEP. - HER REPORT IS PART OF OUR - BREAKTHROUGH SERIES, AND - THE LATEST IN OUR LOOK AT - "THE LEADINGDGE" OF SCIENCE, - TECHNOLOGY AND HEALTH. - >> Reporter: THIS QUIET STRETCH - OF FARMLAND IN NORTHEAST IOWA - DOESN'T GET A LOT OF VISITORS. - BUT SEVERAL TIMES A YEAR, - CHANAN COUNTY ENGINEER BRIAN - KEIERLEBER DRIVES DOWN A GRAVEL - ROAD HERE AND PULLS OVER ABOVE A - SMALL CRK. - FROM THE TOP, THE BRIDGE HE'S - COME TO INSPECT LOOKS PRETTY - TYPICAL, BUT AFTER A SHORT TREK - DOWN BELOW, KEIERLEBER POINTED - THIS BRIDGE.VERY DIFFERENT ABOUT - >> THAT'S COMPLETELY OUT OF THE - NORM, TO BE USING A FOUR-INCH-. - THICK DE - MOST DECKS ARE SEVEN TO EIGHT - INCHES, EVEN WITH BEAMS - UNDERNEATH THEM. - AND IF YOU'RE NOT USING BEAMS, - 18, 20, 22 INCH ON YOUR SLABS. - >> Reporter: IN OTHER WORDS,UC - IT'S MTHINNER THAN NORMAL. - THAT'S BECAUSE IT'S MADE WITH A

- NEW TYPE OF CONCRETE CALLED" - ULTRA-HIGH-PERFORMANCE - CONCRETE," ALSO KNOWN AS - U.H.P.C., THAT - STEEL FIBERS.H - IT'S ABOUT FIVE TO TEN TIMESER - STROHAN STANDARD CONCRETE. - >> IT'S VERY UNIQUE, TO THE - POINT THAT WE'VE HAD VISITORS - COME FROM AROUND THE WLD TO - LOOK AT IT. - BRIDGE PROJECTS USING THIS A - MATERIALUND IOWA, WHICH WAS - THE FIRST IN THE COUNTRY TO - WAILD A U.H.P.C. BRIDGE IN 2006. - KEIERLEBER SAYS AS AN - EARLY ADOPTER BECAUSE THERE'S A - BIG NEED FOR INFRASTRUCTURE - INNOVATION. - THE STATE HAS THE LARGEST NUMBER - OF STRUCTURALLY-DEFICIENT - BRIDGES IN THE COUNTRY. - >> THE BRIDGES ARE DETERIORATING - A LOT FASTER, BECAUSE WE PUT A - LOT OF SALT ON T ROADS IN THE - WINTERTIME. - THE CHLORIDES WILL EAT UP THE - PAVEMENT, BUT IT REALLY EATS UP - THE BRIDGES, TOO, AND THE - SO, WE'RE SHORTENING THE LIFE - WHEN WE NE TO BE LENGTHENING - IT. - >> Reporter: U.H.P.C., WHICH WAS - FIRST DEVELOPED AGVERAL DECADES - JUST STRONGER THANRADITIONAL - CONCRETE.CH - IT'S ALSO MUORE DURABLE AND

- LESS BRITTLE, AND THE MATERIAL - IS NEARLY IMPENETRABLE TO WATER - AND CHEMICALS LIKE DEICER. - U.H.P.C. HAS NOW BEEN USED IN - BRIDGE PROJECTS IN 28 OTHER - STATES AND THE DISTRICT OF - COLUMBIA, BUT MOSTLY ON A SMALL - ALE. - ONE OF THE MAIN REASONS? - COST. - TRADITIONAL CONCRETE IS ROUGHLY - $100 PER CUBIC YARD. - COMMERCIALLY AVAILABLE U.H.P.C. - COSTS ABOUT $2,000 TO $3,000.CU - THENT PRICE TAG OF - U.H.P.C. MAKES IT UNAFFORDABLE - FOR MOST GOVER - INFRASTRUCTURE PROJECTS, BUT - RESEARCHERS AROUND THE COUNTRY - AND HERE IN IOWA ARE WORKING TO - BRING THE COSTS DOWN. - >> SO GIVE ME AN UPDATE AS TO - WHERE WE ARE WITH THE SANDS. - >> Reporter: BRENT PHARES IS AN - ASSOCISEARCH PROFESSOR AT - IOWA STATE UNIVERSITY, WHICH HAS - BEEN AT THE FOREFRONT OF - U.H.P.C. RESEARCH. - >> THERE'S NO DOUBT THAT ULTRA- - HIGH-PERFORMANCE CONCRETE HAS - PROPERTIES THAT ARE FAR AND - ABOVE ANYTHING ELSE THAT EXISTS. - >> Reporter: PHARES ANOLHIS - TEAM, INBORATION WITH - SEVERAL OTHER UNIVERSITIES ANDTM - THE U.S. DEPT OF - TRANSPORTATION, ARE DEVELOPING

- NON-PROPRIETARY BLENDS THEY HOPE - WILL BE ABOUT HALF OF THE - CURRENT COST OF U.H.P.C. - DETERMINEAL IS - HOW THE MATEAL CAN BE USED - OF AGING BRIDGES.EXTEND THE LIFE - >> WHAT WE'RE DOING HERE IS - TAKING THESE BEAMS, DAMAGING - THEM TO SIMULATE SOME - DETERIORATION, AND THEN USING - ULTRA-HIGH-PERFORMANCE CONCRETE - TO PATCH THEM. - >> Reporter: AND WHAT HAVE YOU - SEEN SO FAR? - >> THE RESEARCH IS SHOWING THAT - ALRGETED USE OF THIS RELATIVELY - EXPENSIVE MATERIAN BE A WAY - TO BE EFFECTIVE AT REPAIRING OUR - EXISTING INFRASTRUCTURE. - NO ONE HAS THE DOLLARS TO - COMPLETELY REPLACE, SO WE KNOW - HIWE'VE GOT TO REPAIR, ANDIS - ONE WAY TO DO THAT. - >> Reporter: DURING OUR VISIT, - ENGINEERING GRAD STUUIN - ROGERS CONDUCTED A COMPARISON - COMPRESSION TEST. - UNDER AN INCREASING AMOUNT OF - PRESSURE, A CYLINDER OF - TRADITIONAL CONCRETE, SEEN ON - MINUTES AT 6,000 PPER TWO - SQUARE INCH, OR P.S.I. - THE U.H.P.C. SAMPLE, ON THET, - RIOOK MORE THAN EIGHT - MINUTES TO CRACK, AT NEARLY - 25,000 P.S.I. - >> AS YOU CAN SEE, IN THE - REGULAR CONCRETE, IT JUST BURST - PERFORMANCE CONCRETE, WE'RE

- HOLDING THOSE FIBERS, WE'RE - HOLDING THE MATERIAL IN. - AND THAT'S WHAT GIVES IT IT'S - STRENGTH. - IT IS REALLY EXCITING TO SEE THE - DIFFERENT APPLICATIONS IT CAN BE - USED IN, ESPECIALLY THEEX - RETROFITTING OTING - STRUCTURES. - >> Reporter: U.H.P.C. IS NOW - BEING STUDIED AND USED IN THE - U.S. AND ABROAD, FOR A VARIETY - OF OTHER APPLICATIONS, INCLUDING - BUILDING FEATURES. - ANOTHER RESEARCH TEAM AT IOWATU - STATE ISING ITS USE IN - WIND TURBINE TOWERS. - WHILE SCIENTISTS CONTINUE THEIR - WORK IN THE LAB,THERS ARE - LOOKING FORWARD TO THE DAY WHEN - BRIDGES ARE FER AND MORE - RELIABLE - LIKE RANDY FRANCS, A HOG - FARMER IN BUCHANAN COUNTY. - >> WE REALLY RELY ON OUR RURAL - INFRASTRUCTURE HERE IN NORTHEAST - IOWA ON A DAILY BASIS. - >> Reporter: HE SAYSOCAL - BRIDGE CLOSURES IN RECENT YEARS - OPERATION'S BOTTOM LINE.G - >> I THINK GOING INTO THE - FUTURE, WE'RGOING TO NEED - BETTER TECHNOLOGY IN OUR - BRIDGES, TO COUNTERACT THE - DEMANDS THAT THEY'RE GOING TO - HAVE FROM THE FARMERS, AND THE - LARGER EQUIPMENT, AND THE MORE - STRESS THAT WE'RE GOING TO BE - PUTTING ONTO THOSE BRIDGES. - >> Reporter: IOWA IS PLANNING - CT14 NEW U.H.P.C. BRIDGE PS - FOR THE COMI YEAR, AND IOWA

- STATE ENGINEERS HOPE TO HAVE - THR LESS EXPENSIVE U.H.P.C - MIX READY IN THE NEXT YEAR OR - TWO. - FOR THE PBS NEWSHOUR, I'M - CAT WISE IN AM, IOWA. - >> Woodruff: FINALLY TONIGHT, - JEFFREY BROWN HAS A CONVERSATION - WITH CHILEAN WRINDR ISABEL - AL WHOSE NEW NOVEL, "A - LONG PETAL OF THE SEA," DRAWS - UPON HISTORICAEVENTS SPANNING - FROM THE SPANISH CIVIL WAR TO - THE 1973 COUP IN HER NATIVE - CHILE AS INSPIRATION. - IE'S PART OF OUR ONGOING S - ON ARTS AND CULTURE, "CANVAS." - >> Brown: IN 1939, THE - CHILEAN POET PABLO NERUDA, - THEN SERVING AS A DIPLOMAT, - 2,000 SPANISH WAR REFUGEES MAKE - THEIR WAY TO CHILE. - THAT AND OTHER HISTORICAL - EPISOD AND FIGURES OVER THE - NEXT 50 YEARS FORMED THE - "A LONG PETAL OF THE SEA." - AUTHOR ISABEL ALLENDE - EXPERIENCED SOME OF THAT HISTORY

- HERSELF. - AN INTERNATIONALLY RENOWNED - WRITER, HER BOOKS HAVE SOLD MORE - THAN 70 MILLION COPIES. - IN 2014, SHE RECEIVED THE - PRESIDENTIAL MEDAL OF FREEDOM - FROM BARACK OBAMA. - AND SHE JOINS ME NOW. - NICE TO TALK TO YOU AGAIN. - >> NICE TO TALK TO YOU. - >> Brown: WRITING A BIG,, - SWEEPILTI-CHARACTER STORY. - YOU HAVE DONE THIS BEFORE. - THAT'S NOT NEW. - BUT THIS ONE IS GROUNDED IN A - VERY PARTICULAR HISTORY, RIGHT? - >> IN ONE EVENT, YEAH. - AND TH IS THE JOURNEY OF - A SHIP CALLED "WINNIPEG," A - CARGO SHIP TT TRANSPORTED - 2,200 REFUGEES FROM THE CIVILCH - WAR IN SPAIN TE. - >> Brown: AND WHAT DREW YOU TO - THIS STORY? - >> WHEN I HEARD THIS STORY, - WHEN I WAS A YOUNG KID-- I WAS - BORN IN 1942, AND THIS HAPPENED - IN 1939. - BUT SOME OF THOSE PEOPLE WEREIE - S OF MY FAMILY. - SO I KNEW VAGUELY ABOUT IT. - BUT I REALLY HEARD THE STORY - FROM ONE OF THE PASSENGERS WHEN - I WAS LIVING IN VENEZUELA. - >> Brown: AND SO THERE WERE REAL

- PEOPLE INVOLVED. - >> REAL PEOPLE, YES. - >> Brown: AND THEN YOU CREATED - THE CHARACTERS? - >> I CREATED THE FICTION. - BUT THE HISTORICAL FACTS ARE SO - PERFECT FOR A NOVEL THAT I - DIDN'T HAVE TO INVENT ANYTHING. - IT WAS A BOOK, EASY TO WRITE. - EVERYTHING WAS THERE. - IT WROTE ITSELF. - >> Bwn: THAT'S HOW IT FELT. - YOU TYPED? - >> I JUST TYPED, YEAH. - >> Brown: SO TELL USBOUT THE - TWO MAIN CHARACTERS, THOUGH, - VICTOR AND ROSA, RIGHT? - SO THE TWO MAIN CHARACTERS AREGE - RE FROM THE CIVIL WAR. - FRANCO TAKES OVER. - THEY'RE FORCED TO LEAVE TO MAKE - THEIR WAY TO CHILE, RIT? - >> YES. - >> Brown: TELL ME A LITTLE BIT - ABOUT WHAT HAPPENS TO THEM.EY - >> WELL, WHEN ROSS THE - BORDER INTO FRANCE AS REFUGEES, - THEY END UP US AS PRISONERS - PRACTICALLY, IN A COATION - CAMP.Y - THE AT FRANCO ATTACKED - BARCELONA AND THAT WAS THE LAST - BASTION OF THE REPUBLIC, A HALF - A MILLION PEOPLE WALKED TO THE - BORDER OF FRANCE IN A TERRIBLE - WINTER DAY.

- AND WHAT WOULD FRANCE H - HALF A MILLION REFUGEES AT THE - BORDER? - EVENTUALLY, THEY LET THEM IN,EY - AND UT THEM IN - CONCENTRATION CAMPS. - IT SEEMS LIKE A FAMILIAR STORY. - >> Brown: IT DOES SEEM LIKE ONE. - AND ONE CAN'T READ THIS WITHOUT - THINKING ABOUT ECHOES EVEN TO - TODAY. - >> THE NARRATIVE AGAINST THETS - IMMIGRS NOW THE SAME AS IT - WAS 80 YEARS AGO. - AND THEN THEY COME TO CHILE, - WHERE THEY HAVE A LIFE. - AND THEN IN 1970, WE HAD A - GOVERNMENT, A DEMOCRATICALLY- - ELECTED GOVERNMENT, CENTER LEFT, - WITH A SOCIALIST PRESIDENT, - SALVADOR ALLENDE. - THREE YEARS LATER, THE RIGHT - WING, HELPED BY THE C.I.A., - TOPPLE THE GOVERNMENT. - AND MANY PEOPLE WENT AGAIN INTO - EXILE AS REFUGEES, AND AMONG - EM, SOME OF THE ONES THAT HAD - COME IN THE SHIP MANY YEARS - SO LIFE GOES IN A , YOU - KNOW. - AND FROM A HISTORICAL POT OF - VIEW, IT'S FASCINATING. - >> Brown: HOW MUCH DID YOU RELY - ON RESEARCH, AND HOW MUCH OF - THIS IS YOUR IMAGINATION? - >> I HAVE WRITTEN SEVERAL

- HISTORICAL NOVELS, AND I - RESEARCHED THE FACTS VERY MUCH. - SO I WANT TO BE ABSOLUTELY SURE - THAT THAT PART IS TRUE, BECAUSE - THAT'S THE FOUNDATION. - IF I HAVE A SOLID FOUNDATION, I - CAN CREATE THE FICTIONAL STORY - ON TOP OF IT AND IT IS - BEEVABLE. - MY FIRST RESPOIBILITY AS A - FICTION WRITER IS FOR YOU, AS A - READER, TO BIEVE MY STORY. - SO THAT'S WHERFACTS COME IN. - AND THEY ARE REAL FACTS, NOT - ALTERNATIVE FACTS. - >> Brown: AND SO YOU WERE - BOOK ALMOST WROTE ITSELF, RIGHT? - >> YES, BECAUSE IT ALREADY - STANDS FOR ITSELF. - >> Brown: BUT DID IN A SENSE, - ARE THE CHARACTERS WRITING - THEMSELVES OR ARE YOU, ARE YOU - CREATING THE CHARACTERS? - >> I THINK THEY WRITE - THEMSELVES, AND THEY ARE PUSHED - BY THEIR EVENTS. - THEY NEED TO GET ON THE SHIP. - SO I NEED TO MARRY THEM. H - AND THOSE THINPEN IN THE - PROCESS. - THAT THE EVENTS AROUND THEIRMO - LIVES, THA OF THEM ARE OUT - OF THEIR CONTROL, DECIDE WHAT - THEY DOING ANYWAY.

- AND I FEEL THAT THAT'S MY LIFE. - IN MY LIFE, ALL THE CROSSROADS, - ALL THE MOMENTS WHEN EVERYTHING - HAS CHANGED ASEING COMPLETELY - OUT OF MY CONTROL AND MY ONLY - CHOICE HAS BEEN TO HOW I FEEL - ABOUT IT. - FOR ME, IT'S EASY TO UNDERSTAND - THE FEELINGS OF ALL OF - DISPLACEMENT, OF LEAVING - EVERYTHINGEHIND, OF STARTING - FROM SCRATCH OR ALWAYS LOOKING - BACK, THINKING THAT YOU WILL GO - BACK SOMEDAY. - >> Brown: THERE IS A ANOTHER - REAL CHARACTER IN THIS BOOK. - ANTHAT'S THE POET PABLO - NERUDA, RIGHT? - A VERY SOCIALLY ENGAGED AND - COMMITTED WRITER. - YOU USE LINES FROM HIS POETRY AT - THE BEGINNING OF EACH CHAPTER, - AND IT MADE WONDER HOW YOU - FEEL-- OR DO YOU FEEL-- A KIND - OF RESPONSIBILITY AS A WRITER, - AS AN ARTIST, TO LK AT OUR - TIMES AND ADDRESS IT? - >> IT COMES NATURALLY. - I DON'T WANT TO DELIVER - MESSAGE. - I'M NOT A SOCIOLOGIST OR A - POLITICIAN. - I JUST WANT TO TELL A STORY.

- BUSOMETIMES, THE STORIES ARE - IN THE AIR. - WE HEAR SO MUCH ABOUT REFUGEES - AND MIGRANTS AND DISPLACED, - PEOPAT MY THREE LAST BOOKS - DEAL WITH THAT IN ONE WAY OR - ANOTHER, BECAUSE IT'S THERE.LL - IT'S IN THE TIVE - CONSCIOUSNESS RIGHT NOW. - >> Brown: ALL RIGHT. - THE NOVEL IS "A LONG PETAL OFTH - SEA." - ISABEL ALLENDE, THANK YOU VERY - MUCH. - >> THANK YOU, JEFF. - >> Woodruff: SO INTERESTING. - AND THAT'S THE NEWSHOUR FOR - TONIGHT. - I'M JUDY WOODRUFF. - JOIN US ONLINE, AND AGAIN RIGHT - HERE TOMORROW EVENING. - FOR ALL OF US AT THE - PBS NEWSHOUR, THANK YOU, AND - WE'LL SEE YOU SOON. - >> MAJOR FUNDING FOR THE PBS - NEWSHOUR HAS BEEN PROVIDED BY:OR - >> BWE TALK ABOUT YOUR - INVESTMENTS-- WHAT'S NEW? - >> WELL, AUDREY'S EXPECTING...NS - >> T - >> WE'D BE CLOSER TO THE TWINS. - >> CHANGE IN PLANS. - >> AT FIDELITY, CHAING PLANS - IS ALWAYS PART OF THE PLAN. - >> WHEN IT COMES TO WIRELESS, - CONSUMER CELLULAR GIVES ITS - CUSTOMERS THE CHOICE. - AS MUCH-- OR AS LILE-- TALK,OU - TEXT AND DATA AS YOU WANT, AND - OUR U.-BASED CUSTOMER SERVICE

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