¡Colores!; 1940; New Mexican Sculptor Michael Naranjo, Still-Life Painter Marc Rubin, Dance Pioneer Bill T. Jones, British Theatre Director Trevor Nunn
 
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>>Narrator: THIS TIME,           ON COLORES! DURING THE VIETNAM   WAR NEW MEXICAN SCULPTOR         MICHAEL NARANJO WAS BLINDED..    FOR THE LAST 40 YEARS HE HAS     PRODUCED WORKS OF SPLENDID       ARTISTRY. >>Naranjo:             If you want to do it, I guess    you have to sit down and do      it. When I could see I always    wanted to be a sculptor          and I thought I would never be   able to do that. But then        I suddenly discovered I could    do that with one hand,           creating a very simple piece     and the moment I made that,      I knew that I had my life,       I had my purpose." STILL LIFE    PAINTER MARC RUBIN SHARES HOW    USING TECHNIQUES BORROWED        FROM RENIASSANCE MASTERS IS      A WAYTO CONNECT TO THE PAST      AND KEEP A LINEAGE ALIVE.        >>Rubin: "I paint from life,     painting from life you see       the three dimensions,            they aren't flattened out        by a photograph. It's not        fake; the shadows have depth     and color." DANCE PIONEER BILL   T. JONES PUSHES THE BOUNDARIES   IN DANCE . >>Jones: "We are     
the paint on the canvas; we're   not at the service of drawing    on the vase of flowersanymore    but the act of painting,         the act of the body moving       and gravity." FROM               "SHAKESPEARE UNCOVERED" TREVOR   NUNN LOOKS AT "THE TEMPEST,"     IN WHICH AN OLD BLOOD FEUD       RESURFACES FOR A SHIPWRECKED     FATHER AND DAUGHTER. >>Nunn:     "It's a tabula rasa,             the island, it's a clean         slate. There's no connection     to civilization.You have         to see how nature or nurture,    how embedded is it               in humanity." >>Narrator: IT'S   >>MICHAEL NARANJO: We're all     living creatures and full       
of life experiences and it       doesn't matter where you're      from, what you do, everyone      has a story to tell.             And I guess that's what          inspires me, is kind of living   and life itself. >>AKIM:         You lost your sight              in Vietnam. How do you see?      >>NARANJO: Since I'm totally     blind, my world is that          of sound and touch. I see what   I want to see I guess, in that   I don't see things that people   don't want to see. The driving   down the highway, the garbage,   the burnt buildings and towns,   those kinds of things.           So I live, what I believe, is    a rathersheltered way            of seeing because what           I perceive and what comes        into my mind's vision, what      I allow in. So when my fingers   look at things, I get this       visual imagery in my mind,      
the mind never stops creating.   >>Hakim: In all of your years    the most important lesson that   you've learned? >>NARANJO:       If you want to do it, you have   to sit down and do it. When      I could see, I always wanted     to be a sculptor,                and I thought I wouldn't be      able to do that. But then        I suddenly discovered            I coulddo that with one had,     creating a very simple piece.    And then when I knew that,       I knew that I had mylife,        I had my purpose. The energy     in my younger days was like      the fire is blazing              internally. I would sit down     and I would create a piece       in a week, sleeping three        or four hours in a night         and just going through it        and total exhaustion             at the end of the week.          And I would find myself          sitting there thinking, "will    I ever have another idea         for sculpture?" But they come   
again, they always come.         >>Hakim: When you were           creating these pieces, you are   quite literally feeling          your way through it. Can         you describe that experience?    >>NARANJO: First I have          to have an idea. I've received   ideas from dreams, reading       books, people talking, things    I've seen in the past. Once      I get this idea, then it sits    inside, and sometimes on rare    occasions, I can turn around,    sit down and create it. Other    times I can't do that. So it     all varies.There's this war      dancer I was creating            and I was sitting and working    on this piece. And after         aboutseveral hours, I knew it    wasn't working. Though I could   see it in my mind's eye,         my mind and my fingers just      weren't connecting. So I put     it on a shelf and about six      months later I came back to it   and started working on it        again. And I knew right then,    that the time had come.          So I sat there again for days   
and that was the one time that   I was really afraid I had gone   crazy. Because in the middle     of the night, no one around,     my head is thrown back, I'm      laughing out loud,               and I scared myself              because I didn't intend          to throw my head back            and laugh. It's just suddenly,   I didn't know who that person    was. So I got up, went           to the living room and sat       down. And I gathered my wits     about me and I thought, "I       guess it's okay, I was just      happy creating what I was        making." >>Hakim: What are       your obstacles and do            If I could look at a picture     or look at something that       
I was trying to create, it       would be so much easier.         But as it is, it's fingertips    touching thousands               upon thousands of touches.       Frustrating- there's so many     things that I would like         to see, but I can't. There's     so many things that I would      like to do, but I can't.         Simple things in life that       we take for granted. But then    by the same token, how           important is it in my life       to be able to run down           the street? It would be nice     but it's not important.          I think the way I see it is,     way back, I came across this:    "Rather than it being            a problem, it's a challenge."    >>Hakim: There's so much        
movement in your pieces. Can     you tell us a little bit         about why that's important       to you? >>NARANJO: My brother    and I used to go hunting         and fishing all the time.        We would sit on top              of mountains and watch           the river go by. It's a very     gentle, peaceful way. Birds      come floating into this little   grassy meadow on top             of the peaks. Down below,        you'll see a deer gently         walking by; a blade of grass     swaying with the breeze.         And you look up and see          the clouds appearing             and dissolving and reappearing   on the other side                of the peaks. So everything's    moving, but it's slow and it's   gentle. >>Hakim: What drives     you to continue making this      work? >>NARANJO: My creations,   my designs live inside me.       Sometimes for long periods      
of time, for years, sometimes    for days and weeks.              But for the time, it's own       time comes, that it to has       to be born, it has to come       out. And I find that at times,   I'm fighting a piece             from coming. I know I want       to make it,but I'm afraid,       there's fear in it. Can I make   it as good as I think I can?     As I want to make it? Maybe,     maybe not, you know? But when    the time comes, it comes out     and I start creating             and there's nothing              in the world like it             because it's another world       in itself that I'm               so fortunate to be able          MARC RUBIN PAINTS LIFE           INTO EVERYDAY OBJECTS.          
BY USING LIGHT AND SHADING,      HE PAINTS A STORY                INTO HIS STILL LIFE SUBJECTS.    >>Marc Rubin: I'm                a representational painter,      I paint from life not            from photographs                 and I typicallypaint one         to one scale. The size you see   in a painting is the size        of the object I'm painting.      It's these little magical        pools of light, you walk         by something and it strikes      you the highlights are kind      of Rembrandt-y are the stuff     that really gets me excited.     So when I see something that     catches my attention in that     moment, I try to bring it back   to the studio and recreate       that feeling and then paint      it. I paint with oil             and typically on Masonite,      
I do use some canvas             but I really love the hardness   and the pushback                 with the brush on Masonite.      I paint from life, painting      from life you see the three      dimensions, they aren't          flattened out by a photograph.   It's not fake; the shadows       have depth and color.I paint     from the north light             and the shadows are typically    red on the warm side             the highlights are blue cause    its reflecting the sky.          I studied with Tom Buechner      for 10 years, he's been          my mentor, friend, he taught     me more than just painting       he taught me the love            of classical music, the love     of opera, he introduced me       to many many books and many      artists that I wasn't aware      of. His process is               a renaissance process that's     been passed along                from generation to generation.   The Dutch painters, Renier,      Rembrandt, and many many         others of that era that I feel  
I'm connected to that. That's    part of the responsibility       I feel as an artistand           as accomplished as I am to go    back and pass that along, keep   that lineage going. I am in 5    different galleries around       the east coast, couple           of the major ones are            the F.A.N. Galleryin             Philadelphia, The Zenith         Gallery in Washington DC         and the South Street Gallery     on Long Island. It's really      about seeing and continually    
going for the more               representational                 and the trompe-l'oeil, which     is having depth in a painting.   It's really important to me      to get that kind of illusion     that things are coming           at you I like doing that. It's   usually a shadow or an edge      that kind of brings things       more forward and I like          the three dimensionality         of things I like old things,     I like things that have          a history or if it's             a vegetable that has a story     to it. There is a narrative      usually to the work that I do,   like the tomatoes that are       on the floor behind me,          I walked into the local          grocery store and they were      kind of leaning there,           they looked like friends, that   they knew each other             for a long time. So I tried      to create that feeling I had     when I walked through            the supermarket and recreated    that feeling through that        little moment that I was         interpreting. The brush is       such an amazing tool, when       you have all the technology     
of today and the basic little    brush that the cave guys used    on the walls...its pretty        amazing. >>Narrator:             CHOREOGRAPHER BILL T. JONES      SHARES HOW HE HAS EXPLORED       THE COMPLEX TERRAIN              OF THE HUMAN CONDITION           THROUGH DANCE. >>Paula Zahn:     Bill, it is an absolute honor    to meet you. >>Bill T. Jones:    Well, thank you. It's            a pleasure to be here. >>Zahn:   It is particularly fitting       to be talking to                 you at the Juilliard School      where you were granted           an honorary doctorate, (BTJ:     Yes.) and I have this            wonderful picture of you.        I think you are one of the,      the few awardees that actually   tap danced to, to get            your diploma. >>Jones: Well it   was a stomp dance, it wasn't     a tapping. It was stomping,      yea. When you're happy.          >>Zahn: I've read a lot          about your background. And um,   you have travelled a very       
unusual path. From the 10th      of twelve children born          to migrant farm workers, where   along that path were             you introduced to movement       and, and where could you have    had a dream that you someday     could perform as you do today?   >>Jones: You know, we were       because of the                   social-political nature of,      ah, the U.S. in the 50's,        entertainment was quite          segregated. So we had a,         we lived out at the camp,        my family, the men and women     who worked with my Dad,          and where do you entertain       yourselves? You have             a jukebox. So we entertained     ourselves by dancing             so movement was always there.    We did talent shows, making up   steps, seeing things on the Ed   Sullivan show, that's where      Taylor Dancers. Now what         happened when we got             to the University, however?      Hmm. Now there's this thing      called dance as concert          performance, and pointing        your feet and ballet and turn    out, the alignment. >>Zahn:      And you had not had any formal  
training up until that point?    >>Jones: No. No. No. No,         at my high school we were        fortunate to have a drama        teacher. So there was adrama     club and I loved it being        the ham that I was               in my bones, she directed that   toward theater. Ithought I was   going to University              for Broadway, but when I got     there I discovered modern        dance and it just took the air   out of everything else,          and I was obsessed. >>Zahn:      And then Arnie Zane came         into your life. >>Jones: Yes.    Yea. >>Zahn: Right. So let's,    let's talk about how the two     of you completely moved          the boundaries of dance.         >>Jones: (Laughs) It's sounds    like my, my publicist wrote      But it's true. Maybe, maybe it   would be fair to say expand,     would it be more accurate        to sayyou expounded              the boundaries of dance.         >>Jones: Oh, we certainly        expanded it, we certainly        expanded it. >>Jones: First      of all, the question was ah,     what was dance? We inherited     a certain type of exploration    from the 60's experimentalist.   Anything could be danced         about; any form could be made    to dance. Arnie Zane             and I came into this            
and we benefited                 from something called contact    improvisation as developed       by one of Merce Cunningham's     great dancers Steve Paxton.      If you could do, ah, Karate,     if you could do social dance     like the Lindy, about counter    pull. Anybody could lift         anybody. That contact really     freed Arnie and I to really      explore that. Now there was      this other issue, small white    Jewish man, tall black man,      and they're doing this thing     which not about princes          and princesses, but there's      something else, are              they fighting, are they, are     they making love, are they,      what's going, this               relationship has something       going on in it and it was all    through abstraction, pantomime   kind of movements, so we,        I think we really did inspire    a lot of people to think past    gender, think past body size,    and began to think what makes    choreography. I say it's         living sculpture. We're          anymore. We are the primary      thing, we are the paint          on the canvas, we're not        
at the service of drawing        on the vase of flowers anymore   but the act of painting,         the act of the body moving       and gravity. >>Zahn: I think     what I really respect is how     honest you have been             over the years, particularly     in the American Masters          documentary... >>Jones: It's     a good documentary, yea          >>Zahn: ...called "A Good        Man", where you expose           the audience to the rawness      of creating a performance.       >>Jones: The truth is what       you put on that stage and what   you make. Now whose opinion      about it are you going           to believe, do you believe       your own eyes? Ah, and that's    where the heart comes in. I'm    saying to the public, I am       here. No lies here. What I'm     doing is, this is the real       deal. Maybe it's not             about originality but it is      about authenticity which is      the best I can hope              for in this life. "He was        real." >>Zahn: Let's talk        about this wonderful milestone   you've reached with the 30th     anniversary of your dance        company, the, ah, world          premiere of "A Rite" a,          a co-production with Anne        Bogart's Siti Companyand        
on Stravinsky's "Rite            of Spring". >>Jones: Yes. Anne   Bogart who I have great          respect for, she was enthused    by the riot in Paris in 1913,    and uh I said, you know maybe    with Anne's enthusiasm, I can    find a way into it,              so we decided to work            together. And through            the brilliance of                my co-artistic director, Janet   Wong, we have found a way        to make the dance                and the acting seamless          and it's a beautiful piece       with a wonderful sound           score,design, and no, we do      not have a sacrificial maiden,   although there is sacrifice      in it. And it's really weird,    it's kind of wonderful, I'm      Let's talk about "Play           By Play: An Evening of Music     and Movement or Movement         and Music", I guess the way      you call it, and it's            about the delight of musicians  
and dancers working together.    >>Jones: Simple, right, yeah,    it is simple. It's a lot to do   with the wonderful Orion         String Quartet. If you love      chamber music, and you are       interested in what we might do   to it, this is a wonderful       program not to be missed.        >>Zahn: You also have been       named the Executive Artistic     Director of New York Live Arts   and you've described NYLA        as where thinking and movement   meet the future. A destination   for innovative movement based    artistry. (BTJ: That's it,       it's true.) Expand on that.      (BTJ: Well.) What do you hope    that it will lead you to?        >>Jones: Well, a, New York       Live Arts is the meeting         of Bill T. Jones and Arnie       Zane Dance Company               and the historic Dance Theater   Workshop, a place that I did     my, some of my first             performances. Um, they, ah,      are fearless there, we have      always been proud of, of Dance   Theater Workshop, and now        that, that tradition continues   through the DNA of New York      our residency commissioning      artist program. Carla           
Peterson, who is our Artistic    Director, really cares           about artists. We would like     to make sure that artists are    taken care of at every stage     of their career, and how can     we make this innovation that     New York is known for. How can   we make it something that        people fight to get tickets      for? >>Zahn: I know you've       talked about you wanting         your company to be a microcosm   of the world that you like       to live in. >>Jones: You have    done your research haven't       you. Yes. >>Zahn: How do         you choose your dancers?         >>Jones: It's not a science.     I wish it were. I do like        a certain degree                 of virtuosity. Ah, that's not    what Arnie Zane and Bill T.      Jones were doing, but now        if someone can actually get      into the air andbeat. Great.     Then get into the air and beat   and drop down and do something   which is totally street,that's   even better, and if they are     a choreographer, who are         themselves thinking,             and they're willing to lay       that on my lap, oh I've won.    
They have good technique,        they have the ability            to create, and they have         an aesthetic that I can start    a dialogue with 'cause that's    what our company is, a lot       of artists come through          our company, people finding      their legs, and finding          their aesthetic in               our company. Um, I'm very        proud of that. >>Zahn: Thanks    so much for your time            and continued good luck.         >>Narrator: IN "SHAKESPEARE      UNCOVERED," TREVOR NUNN LOOKS    AT "THE TEMPEST," IN WHICH       AN OLD BLOOD FEUD RESURFACES.    >>TREVOR NUNN: Shakespeare       uses his magical island          to investigate the truth         about human nature. Are          we bestial or benign?            On another side of the island,   his treacherous brother          and co-conspirators aretrying    to understand where they are     and what's happening to them.   
cause, so have I. >>Nunn:        But amongst them is the aging    Gonzalo, no traitor he,          but a courtier always loyal      to Prospero. And in this         verging world, he dreams         of his perfect society.          >>TEMPEST CLIP: All things       in common nature should          produce without sweat            or endeavor. Treason, felony,    sword, pike, knife, gun          or need of any engine would      I not have. >>Nunn:              he says that in future,          everything should be held        in common, there should be       no usury to the making           of money out of lending money,   no weapons, no wars.             Everything should be produced    by nature, paradise. >>JULIE     TAYMOR: I think it's a tabula    rasa, the island. It's a clean   slate. There's no connection     to see how nature or nurture,    how embedded is it              
in humanity. You have this       court come to the island.        They have no castles,            they have nothing. And yet all   that is nature in them, which    is the deceit, starts up         again. You know,                 their character is embedded      in them and you watch this       incredible duplicitous nature    come out. And the conspiracy.    the other survivors,             Prospero's usurping brother,     Antonio, tries to persuade       his crony to commit murder       to gain for both of them         CLIP: I remember you did         supplant your brother,           Prospero. True, and look how     well my garments sit upon me,    much fitter than before.         >>Nunn: Even in a new land,      in an ideal society,             the darker human instincts       will always emerge.             
>>Narrator: NEXT TIME            ON COLORES! VISIONARY            ALBUQUERQUE DESIGNER KENJI       KONDO FOCUSES ON                 SUSTAINABILITY AND AESTHETICS    BUT ALSO ON MAKING DESIGN        TOOLS ACCESSABLE TO OTHER        ARTISTS. >>Kondo: "The           technology has kind of put       manufacturing basically          on it's ear. What this has       done ismade it almost like       going to Kinkos."                WITH WEATHERED WOOD              FROM ACROSS THE ROCKY MOUNTAIN   REGION, CRAFTSMEN JOSH MABE      AND RANDY VALENTINE CREATE       RUSTIC FURNITURE WITH A STORY    TO SHARE. >>Mabe: "That's        the part of frontier life,       that old wild west life, that    so brings me alive. You just     gotta make things work." SINCE   1970 ARTISAN CHARLIE HOFFMAN     HAS BEEN HANDCRAFTING ACOUSTIC   GUITARS. HE SHARES HIS PROCESS   ANDTHE SOUND HE LIKES TO HEAR.   >>Hoffman: "I'm not              a musician, but I can            contribute by making guitars     for other people who make        music." SAM AND SARAH EVANS     
FIX PIANOS... PIECE BY PIECE.    THEY UNDERSTAND THE IMPORTANCE   PEOPLE CAN ATTACH                TO AN INSTRUMENT GENERATION      AFTER GENERATION. >>Evans:       "When it's really a piece        of the family, a piece           of the family's history, we're   renewing itfor the next          generation. " >>Narrator:        UNTIL NEXT TIME, THANK          
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- ¡Colores!
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- 1940
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- During the Vietnam War, New Mexican sculptor Michael Naranjo was blinded. For the past 40 years, he has produced works of splendid artistry. “If you want to do it, I guess you have to sit down and do it. When I could see, I always wanted to be a sculptor and I thought I would never be able to do that. But then I suddenly discovered I could do that with one hand, creating a very simple piece, and the moment I made that, I knew that I had my life, I had my purpose.” Still-life painter Marc Rubin shares how using techniques borrowed from Renaissance masters is a way to connect to the past and keep a lineage alive. “I paint from life. Painting from life you see the three dimensions; they aren’t flattened out by a photograph. It’s not fake; the shadows have depth and color.” Dance pioneer Bill T. Jones pushes the boundaries in dance. “We are the paint on the canvas. We’re not at the service of drawing on the vase of flowers anymore but the act of painting, the act of the body moving and gravity.” From “Shakespeare Uncovered,” Trevor Nunn looks at “The Tempest,” in which an old blood feud resurfaces for a shipwrecked father and daughter. “You have to see how nature or nurture, how embedded is it in humanity.”
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- 00:27:06.892
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      Guest: Nunn, Trevor
 
 Guest: Naranjo, Michael A., 1944-
 Guest: Jones, Bill T.
 Guest: Rubin, Marc
 Producer: Kamins, Michael
 Producer: Walch, Tara
 Producing Organization: KNME-TV (Television station : Albuquerque, N.M.)
 
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