PBS NewsHour; September 18, 2020, 3:00pm-4:00pm PDT

- Captioning sponsored by - NEWSHOUR PRODUCTIONS, LLC - >> Woodruff: GOOD EVENING. - I'M JUDY WOODRUFF. - ON THE NEWSHOUR TONIGHT: - VOTE 2020. - FOUR STATES. - WE AREN THE GROUND IN - MINNESOTA TO MARK THIS NEW PHASE - IN THE RACE FOR THE WHITE HOUSE. - THEN, THE LONGEST WAR. - PEACE TALKS LIKE WE HAVE NEVER - SEEN BEFORE, ATTEMPTING TO END - THE BLOODSHED IN AFGHANISTAN. - >> ( translat): MY DELEGATION - AND I HAVE COME TO DOHA TO - FIGURE OUT A PROCESS TO CLOSE - THE GATES OF WAR AND PAIN - FOREVER. - >> Woodruff: AND, IT'S FRIDAY, - MARK SHIELDS AND DAVID BROOKS - ANALYZE THE POLITICS OF THIS - COMPLICATED TIME. - ALL THAT AND MORE, ON TONIGHT'S. - PBS NEWSHOUR - >> MAJOR FUNDING FOR THE PBS - NEWSHOUR HAS BEEN PROVIDED BY:

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- >> Desjardins: AT THE WHITE - HOUSE, TWO DAYS AFTER BREAKING - WITH EXPERTS AND INDICATING A - CORONAVIRUS VACCINCOULD BE - READY IN WEEKS, PRESIDENT TRUMP - TODAY GAVE A NEW DATE, SAYING A - VACCINE WILL NOT BE WIDELY - AVAILABLE UNTIL SPRING AT LEAST. - >> THERE WILL BE HUNDREDS OF - MILLIONS OF DOSES AVAILABLE - EVERY MONTH, ENOUGH FOR ERY - AMERICAN BY APRIL. - >> Desjardins: THIS, HOURS - BEFORE HE WAS TO TNNVEL TO - OTA, WHERE THE ELECTION IS - UNDERWAY.D - THERE THREE OTHER STATES, - TODAY EARLY VOTERS TOOK TO THE - POLLS, WAITING IN LONG,S. - DISTANCED LINE - BOTH PRESIDENTIAL CAIDATES - PLANNED STOPS IN THE NORTH STAR - STATE TODAY.NT - VICE PRESIIDEN WENT TO A - CARPENTERS TRAINING FACILITY IN - HERMANTOWN. - >> THIS CAMPAIGN IS BETWEEN - SCRANTON AND PAR AVENUE. - >> Reporter: WITH BOTHS - CAMPPRESSING TO GIN UP - TURNOUT, OFFICIAL - >> Desjardins: WITH - CAMPAIGNS PRESSING TO GIN UP

- TURNOUT, OFFICIALS IN - MINNEAPOLIS SATHEY'RE WORKING - TO ENSURE A SAFE PROCESS, AMID A - HISTORIC ELECTION. - >> IT'S UNIQUE BECAUSEF THE - PANDEMIC, OF COURSE. - AND OUR NEED TO MAKE SURE WE'RE - MAKING VOTING SAFE FOR EVERYONE. - ACCESSIBLE AND SAFE FOR - EVERYONE. - WE DON'T WANT PEOPLE EXERCISING - THEIR RIGHT TO VOTE TO BE - DANGEROUS. - >> GOOD EVENING. - I'M ANDERSON COOPER. - THANKS FOR JOINING US. - >> Desjardins: THE PANDEMIC WAS - ALSO CENTRAL TO BIDEN'S CNN - TOWN HALL IN HIS CHILDHOOD - HOMETOWN OF SCRANTON - PENNSYLVANIA LAST NIGHT. - THE FORMER VICE PRESIDENT - ACCUSED HIS OPPONENT OF LETTING - AMERICANS DIE THROUGH INACTION - ON COVID-19. - >> IF THE PRESIDENT HAD DONE HIS - JOB, HAD DONE HIS JOB FROM THE - ULGINNING, ALL THE PEOPLE - STILL BE ALIVE. - ALL THE PEOPLE-- - NG THIS UP. - JUST LOOK AT THE DATA. - LOOK AT THE DATA. - >> Desjardins: IT IS NOT TRUE - THAT PRESIDENT TRUMP COULD HAVE - PREVENTED ALL U.S. COVID-19- - WITH MORE COORDINATED RESPONSE - PLANS HAVE SEEN SIGNIFICANTLY - FEWER INFECTIONS AND DEATHS.MO

- >> FOUR YEARS! - FOUR MORE YEARS! - >> THANK YOU VERY MUCH. - >> Desjardins: AT A RALLY - IN WISCONSIN LAST NIGHT, THETE - PRESIDENT PAD A GRIM PICTURE - OF WHAT A BIDEN WIN WOULD LOOK I - LIA MORE THAN 1.5-HOUR- - LONG SPEECH CONDEMNING RECENT - ANTI-RACISM PROTES AND SOME - VIOLENT RIOTS IN CITIES. - >> IF BIDEN WINS, VERY SIMPLE-- - CHINA WINS. - IF BIDEN WS, THE MOB WINS. - BIDEN WINS, THE RIOTERS, - ANARCHISTS, ARSOSTS, FLAG- - BURNERS, THEY WIN. - >> Desjardins: A HISTORIC - CAMPAIGN GRINDS , WITH THE WAR - OF WORDS ESCALATING BY THE DAY. - FOR THE PBS NEWSHOUR, I'M - LISA DESJARDINS. - >> Woodruff: MORE COURTS WERE - HEARD FROM TODAY ON U.S. - ELECTIONS ISSUES. - THE STATE SUPREME COURT OF - MISSISSIPPI RULED THAT ABSENTEE - VOTING IS NOT AUTOMATICALLY - AVAILABLE TO PEOPLE WHOSE HEALTB - MS MAKE THEM VULNERABLE TO - COVID-19. - A MICHIGAN JUDGE CLEARED THE WAY - FOR ABSENTEE BALLOTS TO BE - COUNTED AS LONAS TWO WEEKS - AFTER ELECTION DAY. - AND IN OHIO, STATE OFFICIALS AND - THE STATE REPUBLICAN PARTY ARE - APPEALING A RULING AGAINST

- LIMITING COUNTIES TO A SINGLE - DROP BOX FOR BALLOTS. - oo - >>uff: IN THE DAY'S OTHER - NEWS, CONFIRMED COVID-19 W - INFECTIOLDWIDE PASSED - 30 MILLION-- UP 10 MILLION OVER - JUST THE PAST MONTH. - AT THE SAME TIME, THE UNITEDS - STATESPROACHING 200,000 - DEATHS. - AND THE C.D.C. RESCINDED - GUIDANCE THAT HAD DISCOURAGED - TESTIN - SYMPTOMS.E WHO HAVE NO - THE "NEW YORK TIMES" REPORTED - THAT OFFICIALS AT THE HEALTH AND - HUMAN SERVICES DEPARTMENT POSTED - THAT GUIDANCE ON THE C - SCIENTISTS' OBJECTIONS.R - THE TRUMP ADMINISTRATION IS - BANNING THE CHINESE-OWKTOK - AND WeCHAT FROM U.S. APP STORES - OVER NATIONAL SERITY CONCERNS. - A TOTAL BAN ON WeCHAT'S - MESSAGING AND ELECTRONIC PAYMENT - SERVICES TAKES EFFECT SUNDAY.

- FULL RESTRICTIONS ON THE - VIDEO-SHARING TIKTOK BEGIN - NOVEMBER 12. - WE WILL GET DETAILS LATER IN THE - PROGRAM. - CHINA STEPPED UP MILITARY DRILLS - NEAR TAIWAN TODAY IN A MAJOR - SHOW OF FORCE AGAINST A U.S. - ENVOY'S VISIT TO TAIPEI. - 18 CHINESE WARPLANES CROSSED - INTO THE TAIWAN STRAIT, AND - TAIWANESE FIGHTERS SCRAMBLED IN - RESPONSE. - BEIJING CONSIDERS TAIWAN A - RENEGADE PROVINCE, AND CHINESE - MILITARY OFFICIALS STERNLY - WARNED AGAINST ANY MEDDLINGE. - TH - >> ( translated ): RECENTLY, THI - U.S. ANDN'S RULING PARTY - HAVE STEPPED UP THEIR COLLUSION - AND FREQUENTLY STIR UP TROUBLE.H - IT IS L THINKING, AND IS - DESTINED TO BE A DEAD END.OP - THE CHINESE 'S LIBERATION - CONFIDENCE, AND SUNTFULL - ABILITY TO THWART ALL EXTERNAL - INTERFERENCE AND SEPARATIST - ACTS. - >> Woodruff: TODAY'S TALKS - SI TAIPEI MARKED THE SECOND - HIGH-LEVEL U.S. IN THE - PAST TWO MONTHS.

- BACK IN THIS COUNTRY, OFFICIALS - IN ALABAMA REPORTED ND - DEATH FROM HURRICANE SAL, AND - SEVERAL HUNDRED THOUSAND PEOPLE - STILL HAVE NO ELECTRICITY. - SATELLITE IMAGES OF COASTA - ALABAMA FROM BEFORE AND AFTER - SHOWED HOMES AND OTHER - STRUCTURES ALMOST ENTIRELY - UNDERWATER. - GOVERNOR KAY IVEY SURVEYED THE - AREA TODAY. - >> WE KNEW THAT HURRICANE SALLY - 'AD THE POTENTIAL TO BE - DEVASTATING, BUT, IT'S - REALLY BAD. - I'M SURE IT COULD BE WORSE; - BUT FROM WHAT I'VE SEEN THIS - MORNING IN THE FLY-OVER-- OVER - GULF SHORES AND ORANGE BEACH, - AND FORT MORGAN-- IT'S REALLY, - REALLY BAD. - >> Woodruff: MEANWHILE, A NEW - TROPICAL STORM FORMED IN THE - GULF OF MEXICO TODAY, HEADING - TOWARD THE U.S. - FORECASTERS NAMED IT BETA, - RESORTING TO THE GREEK ALPHABET - AFTER USING UP THIS YEAR'S - OFFICIAL LIST OF NAMES. - THAT HAS HAPPENED JUST ONCE

- BEFORE, IN 2005, THE YEAR OFIC - HUE KATRINA. - PRESIDENT TRUMP SAYS HE ISAR - SENDING $13 BILLION TO - PUERTO RICO TO REBUILD THE POWES - GRID AND SCHAMAGED IN - HURRICANE MARIA THREE YEARS AGO. - HE HAD OPPOSED THAT STEP UNTIL - NO CITING LOCAL CORRUPTION - BUT THE ISSUE HAS BECOME - IMPORTANIN FLORIDA, A SWING - STATE IN THE ECTION WITH A - LARGE PUERTO RICAN POPULATION. - WILDFIRES IN THE WEST HAVE - CLAIMED THE LIFE OF ANOTR - FIREFIGHTE - IT HAPPENED AS CREWS BATTLED A - MAJOR FIRE IN THE SAN BERNARDINO - NAONAL FOREST. - FLAMES THERE HAVE TORCHED NEARLY - 22,000 ACRES. - THERE IS NEW REPORTING ON - ALLEGATIONS OF UNWANTED - MISTERECTOMIES AND OTHER - SURGERIES AT AN ANT - DETENTION CENTER IN GEORGIA. - AN ASSOCIATED PRESS ACCOUNT - TODAY TOLD OF FOUR WOMEN WHO SAY - A GYNECOLOGIST PRESSURED THEMHE - INTOROCEDURES. - THE A.P. ALSO SAID THAT IT FOUND - NO EVIDENCE THAT EVEN MORE WOMEN - WERE AFFECTED, AS ALLEGED BY A

- NURSE AT THE CENTER. - IN ECONOMIC NEWS, A SERIES OF - NEW REPORTS TODAY FOUND CONSUMER - CONFIDENCE IS RISING AND - HOUSEHOLD INCOMES IMPROVING. - PULLED THE MARKET AGAIN. STOCKS - THE DOW JONES INDUSTRIAL AVERAGE - TLOST 244 POINTS TO CLOSE - 27,657.NA - THE AQ FELL 117 POINTS, AND - THE S&P 500 SLIPPED 37. - STILL TO COME ON THE NEWSHOUR: - ON THE BATTLEGROUND. - WHY MINNESOTA COULD BE A KEY TO - NOVEMBERAS THEY START VOTING - TODAY. - A GLOBAL APP BATTLE. - HOW THE U.S. ITRYING TO TAKE - DOWN TIKTOK. - MUSIC AS MEDICINE. - DOCTORS TURN TO STRINGS TO HELP - THEM USE SCALPELS. - AND, MUCH MO. - >> Woodruff: AS LISA REPORTED, - THE PRESIDENTIAL CANDIDAS

- TOUCHED DOWN IN MINNESOTA TODAY. - BOTH CAMPAIGNED NEAR THE - NORTHERN IRON RANGE AREA OF THE - STATE, ONCE A RELIABLE - DEMOCRATIC STRONGHOLD. - SPECIAL CORRESPONDENT FRED - SAM LAZARO HAS OUR REPORT. - ♪ ♪ - >> Reporter: AT THE AFTERNOON - V.F.W. POLKA IN THE SMALL - NORTHERN TOWN OF CLOQUET, THEEM - DANCERS TO DEFY THEIR - AGE-- AND MINNESOTA'S MASK - MANDATE. - ON THE ACCORDION, 93-YEAR-OLD - FLORIAN CHMIELEWSKI. - >> HEY! - THERE WE GO! - >> Reporter: BESIDES HIS ROLE IN - THE "CHMIELEWSKI FUN TIME BAND," - HE IS BEST KNOWN FOR HIS DECADES - AS A DEMOCRATIC STATE SENATOR. - CHMIELEWSKI RECALLS RUBBING - ELBOWS WITH BIG-NAME MINNESOTA - DEMOCRATIC POLITICIANS LIKE - HUBERT HUMPHREY. - BUT SOMETHING CHANGED, HE SAYS. - >> WE NEVER HAD THATRELATIONSHIE - IN. - AND THAT WAS A DISAS - THE DAYS OF HUMPHREY IN THIS - AREA IS OVER. - >> Reporter: FOR YEARS, - DEMOATS LIKE CHMIELEWSKI - HAVE BEEN MOVING TO THE RIGHT, - AWAY FROM THE PARTY ON

- ENVIRONMTAL AND SOCIAL ISSUES - LIKE ABORTION AND TOWARD - CANDIDATES WHO'VE TEDGED TO - UPHOIR WAY OF LIFE. - ONE SUCH CANDIDATE? - PRESIDENT TRUMP. - IN 201 THE PRESIDENT LOST - MINNESOTA BY LESS THAN TWO - PERCENTAGE POINT - HE FLIPPED 19 COUNTIES THATOB - PRESIDENA WON IN 2012, AND - IN PARTS OF NORTHERN MINNESOTA, - THE DEMOCRATS' EDGE SHRANK - DRAMATICALLY. - JOE BIDEN'S SUPPORTERS SAY - THEY'RE DETERMINED TO MAKE SURE - THE DEMOCRATIC PARTY DOESN'T - LOSE MORE GROUND HERE. - >> IF DONALD TRUMP WINS, WE'RE - SUNK, WEE SUNK. - THERE GOES OUR DEMOCRACY. - WE NEED SOMEBODY WHOARES ABOUT - EVERYBODY AND NOT ONLY HIMSELF - AND HIS POCKETS. - >> Reporter: CINDY GULBRANSON IS - CONCERNED ABOUT HEALTH CARE. - SHE'S BEEN BATTLING LEUKEMIA, - AND HER ONCOLOGIST RECOMMENDED - THAT SHE LEAVE HER NURSING JOB - DURING THE PANDEMIC. - >> WHICH IS A BIG FINANCIAL - DIFFICULTY.

- UNEMPLOYME WON'T LAST FOREVER. - I DON'T KNOW WHAT'S GOING TO W - HAPPH MY HEALTH INSURANCE. - IF I DO NEED CHEMOTHERAPY IN THE - PRESIDENT TRUMP IS TRYING TO? - GET RID OF OBAMACARE. - PEOPLE LIKE ME WHO HAVE - PREEXISTING CONDITIONS-- WHAT - WILL WE DO WITHOUT HEALTH CARE? - >> Reporter: FOR PRESIDENT - TRUMP'S SUPPORTERS, THE CONCERNS - ARE ECONOMIC AND SOCIAL. - USA WESTBY WORRIES ABOUT THE - UNREST THAT ROCKAN PARTS - OF THE STATE SOME THREE HOURS - SOUTH OF HERE, FOLLOWING THE - POLICE KILLING IN MAY OF GEORGE - FLOYD IN MINNEAPOLIS. - >> IT IS CONCERNING ME THAT - THERE IS LAWLESSNESS GOING ON - DOWN THERE. - THAT IS CONCERNING. - BUT I KNOW A LOT OF PEOPLE THAT - DON'T EVEN KNOW THAT THAT'S - GOING ON. - >> Reporter: THE CENTRAL ISSUE - AT THIS RALLY IN VIRGINIA, - MINNESOTA IS IRON ORE MINING, AN - INDUSTRY THAT'S DEFINED THE - REGION ECONOMY DATING BACK - 150 YEARS. - IN RECENT TIMES, THIS IRON RANGE - HAS BEEN HIT BY AUTOMATION AND - FOREIGN COMPETITION, AND - ENVIRONMENTAL GROUPS HAVE - BLOCKED NEW MINING OF COPPER AND

- NICKEL. - THAT'S DRIVEN BOB - VLAISAVLJELVICH FIRMLY INTO THE - TRUMP CAMP. - HE'S THE MAYOR OF EVELETH, - MINNESOTA, AND CALLS HIMSELF A - LIFELONG DEMOCRAT. - WHAT MOVED YOU ALONG TO THE - POINT WHERE YOU ARE NOW? - >> WELL, MY PARENTS, LIKE - EVERODY I GREW UP WITH, THEY - WERE ALL J.F.K. DEMOCRATS. - AND THAT'S KIND OF THE MINDSET - WE'VE ALWAYS HAD. - AND THEN THE PARTY STARTED - DRIF - REALLY SEEMED TO GET ANGRY WHEN - PEOPLE DISAGREED. - WHO ADDRESSED THE REPUBLICAN - NATIONAL CONVENTION LAST MONTH-N - CREDITS PRESTRUMP, AND HIS - TARIFFS ON IMPORTED STEEL, WITH - STABILIZING THE ECONRE. - >> PEOPLE ARE HAVING CONFIDENCE, - EVEN LOCAL BUSEXESSES NOW, TO - ND AND HIRE. - AND THESE COMPANIES, MINING - COMPANIES, HAVE DONE SOME - EXPANSIONS. - IT WAS REAY TOUGH TO LIVE - HERE, BUY A HOUSE, RAISE A - FAMILY. - NOW, YOU'RE SEEING THE - CONSTENCY. - >> NOTHING HAS CHANGED. - THSTIRON RANGE OF 2016 IS AL - THE SAME AS THE ONE IN 2020. - >> Reporter: AARON BROWN IS A

- NORTHERN MINNESOTA AUTHOR ANDT - COLUMNO'S WRITTEN ABOUT - POLITICS HERE FOR YEARS. - WE MET IN THE IRON RANGE TOWN OF - HIBBING. - BROWN NOTES, EMPLOYMENT IN THE - MINES IS A QUARTER OF WHAT IT - WAS JUST 40 YEARS AGO, AND THERE - ARE NOW MORE HEALTH CARE WORKERS - THAN MINERS IN THIS COUNTY. - >> THEY OUTNUMBER THE MINERS, - BUT THEY DON'T OUT-POWER THEM IN - THE POLITICS. - HERE IN HIBBING, THERE WAS A - BRANDING INITIATIVE, AND THE - BRAND MANAGERS CAME AND DID ALL - WITH A SLOGAN THAT BE CAME UP - GREAT FOR THE CITY OF HIBBING. - THEY SAID "HIBBING: WE'RE MORE - AND THAT RECEIVED - THAT THE CITY COUNCIL AND THEIRS - MANAGERS CHANGED THE SLOGAN TOIB - NG: WE'RE ORE AND MORE." - >> Reporter: F MANY ON THE - RANGE, LIKE CINDY GULBRANSON,ID - THE PRTIAL ELECTION IS - ABOUT MUCH MORE THAN MINING. - >> WE WILL RUN OUT OF IRON ORE. - OUR ENVIRONMENT IS BEINGE - AFFECTED BY NING. - I REALLY FEEL WE NEED SOME NEW, - CLEAN INDUSTRY IN OUR AREA.

- WE DON'T WANT TO TAKE PEOPLE'S - JOBS AWAY. - THAT ISN'T THE PLAN. - AS Reporter: THIS ELECTION - SEEMINGLY TORN AT THE FABRIC OF - THESE USUALLY CLOSE-KNIT - COMMUNITIES. - GULBRANSON HAS EVEN RECEIVED - THREATS ON FACEBOOK. - AARON BROWN HAS SEEN IT, TOO. - >> IT'S HARD TO WATCH.TI - YOU KNOW, MY MENERATION - IRON RANGE FAMILY REALLY KIND OF - RENDED APART. - THIS PLACE, WHICH I THINK WAS - TRULY SPECIAL FROM A HISTORICAL - AND A POLITICASTANDPOINT, HAS - BECOME LESS SPECIAL, MORE LIKE - THE REST OF THE COUNTRY. - >> Reporter: OR THE REST OF THE - STATE. - EVEN THOUGH THE CANDIDATES WERE - Y,IN NORTHERN MINNESOTA TO - THE ELECTION OUTCOME WILL LIKELY - HINGE ON TURNOUT IN THE MORE - POPULOUS TWIN CITIES OF - MINNEAPOLIS AND ST. PAUL, AND - CRITICALLY, THE SURROUNDING - SUBURBS. - SO FAR, POLLING IN MINNESOTA - SHOW VOTERS THINK JOE BIDEN - WOULD DO A BETTER JOB OF HEALING - THE NATION'S RACIAL DIVIDE AND - HANDLING THE PANDEMIC. - FOR E PBS NEWSHOUR, THIS IS - FRED DE SAM LAZARO IN ST. PAUL,

- MINNESOTA. - >> Woodruff: AND FRED'S - REPORTING IS A PARTNERSHIP WITH - THE UNIVERSITY OF ST. THOMAS IN - MINNESOTA. - >> Woodruff: AS WE REP - EARLIER, THE TRUMP - ADMINISTRATION IS MOVING FORWARD - NOW WITH PLANS TO BAN THE - PULAR CHINESE SOCIAL MED - APPS, TIKTOK AND WeCHAT. - SOME OF THOSE CHANGES WILL BEGIN - BUT THE ACTION WILL RAMP UP - AFTER THE ELECTION, IN THE CASE - OF TIKTOK. - WILLIAM BRANAM HAS THE - DETAILS. - >> Brangham: JUDY, THIS IS - WHAT'S SCHEDULED THAPPEN. - STARTING ON SUNDAY, AMERICANS - WILL NOT BE ABLE TO DOLOAD - TIKTOK OR WeCHAT APPS FROM APPLE - OR GOOGLE'S APP STORES. - WeCHAT USERS IN THE ITED - STATES WILL ALSO NOT BE ABLE TO - USE THE APP TO SEND MESSAGES OR - MOBILE PAYMENTS TO FAMILY OR - FRIENDS ANYWHERE IN THE WORLD. - ERE ARE A LOT OF QUESTIO

- ABOUT HOW THIS IS GOING TO PLAY - OUT, AND WHAT'S BEHIND THIS - LARGER BATTLE BETWEEN CHINA AND - THE TRUMADMINISTRATION. - NICK THOMPSON IS THE EDITOR-IN- - CHIEF OF "WIRED" MAGAZINE, AND - HE JOINS ME NOW FOR MORE. - NICK THOMPSON, GREAT TO HAVE YOU - ON THE SHOW. - FOR MILLIONS AMERICANS WHO - USE WeChat AND TIKTOK, WHAT - DOES THIS PRACTICALLY MEAN FOR - TH? - >> WELL, PRACTICALLY, IN THE - CASE OF WeChat, IT MEANS YOU - WON'T BE ABLE TO USE IT, YOU - WON'T BE ABLE TO KEEP IN TOUCH - WITH YOUR FRIENDS IN CHINA BUT - WeChat, YO WON'T BE ABLE TO DO - BUSINESS THROUGH WeChat. - THAT WILL START SUNDAY AND ' - A BIG DEAL. - FOR PEOPLE WHO USE TIKTOK, THE - CHANGES WON'T BE AS DRAMATIC.N' - YOU WBE ABLE TO DOWNLOAD - THE NEW VERSION OF THE APP AFTER - SUAY AND WON'T BE ABLE TO - DOWNLOAD IT ON A PHONE. - IT WN'T BE TILL NOVEMBER THAT A - NEW DEAL WILL BE WORKED OUT - KTOK WILL PROBABLY STATION - WeChat IS GOING AWAY. - >> Repter: FOR PEOPLE WHO - MAY NOT BE FAMILIAR WITH THE - APPS.

- WeChat IS KIND OF AN - COMBINAT Facebook, - TWITTER, PAY PALL, ALL IOME - PASSING. - TIKTOK IS ENORMOUSLY POPULAR - WITH YOUNG PEOPLE APP THAT - ALLOWS YOU TO MAKE AND SHARE - FUN, SNAPPY VIDEOS. - PE ALLEGATION THAT THE TR - ADMINISTRATION IS MAKING FOR - THESE ACTIONINGS ARE THAT THESE - APPS SOMEHOW REPRESENT A - NATIONAL SECURITY THREAT. - EXPLAIN THEIR ARGUMENT AND WHAT - IS THE EVIDENCE BEHIND IT? - >> SO THE TRUMP ADMINISTRATION - ARGUMENT IS THE APPS COLLECT - ENORMOUS AAOUNTS OFTA. - THEY KNOW WHERE YOU ARE, WHAT IP - ADDRESS YOU'RE CONNECTING TO, - THEY KNOW ALL KINDS OF PERSONAL - INFORMATION BECAUSE THEY'RE ON - YOUR PNE AND YOUR PHONE KNOWSD - YOUR LOCATION L KINDS OF - THINGS ABOUT YOU. - THEY ARGUE THE CHINESE - GOVERNMENT POTENTIAVING - ACCESS TO THAT DATA IS A REAL - RISK FOR AMERICANS. - THE COUNTERARGUMENT IS THERE'S - LILE EVIDENCE THE DATA HAS - GOTTEN TO THE CHINESE GOANVERNMT - THE SAME DATA IS COLLECTED

- BY AMERICAN MEDIA COMPANIES. - I THINK THE TRUMP ADMINISTRATION - COULD MA A THERGUMENT THAT - TO MANIPULATE AMERICAN POLITICS - BY MANIPULATING THE ALGORITHM. - THAT WOULD BE A DIFFERENT BUT - INTEREING ALLEGATION. - >> Reporter: TO USE IT TOSORT - OF SPREAD INFORMATION ON THE - PLATFORM INTO THE PHONES OF - MILLIONS OF AMERICANS. - >> YEAH. - THEY COULD DO THAT. - >> Reporter: SO TO TOUCH BACK - ON THIS ISUTUE ABOHE - POTENTIAL OF THE CHINE - GOVERNMENT GOING TO A - CHINESE-OWNED COMPANY AND - SAYING, GIVE US YOUR DATA, FOR - PEOPLE WHO DON'T UNDSTAND HOW - CHINESE SOCIETY WORKS IN THIS - REGARD, THAT'S NOT AN - FUNREASONABLE THING TO BEAID - OF, RIGHT? - >> NO, THAT IS AN ENTIRELY - REASONABLE THING TO BE AFRAID - OF. - ANY COMPANY WHO IS CHINESE OWNED - HAS TO HAVE CLOSE REATIONSHIPS - WITH THE CHINESE GOVERNMENT AND - COMPLY WITH CHINESE REQUESTS - WHICH ARE OFTEN LIKE THAT.

- TIKTOK HAS TRIED TO SET UP - VARIOUS FIRE WALLS TO PROTECT IT - WASSELF, BUT THE TRUMP - ADMINISTRATION HAS DECIDED THOSE - FIREWALLS ARE NOT SUFFICIENT. - >> Reporter: FOR THOVESE WHO - EEN FOLLOWING THE TWISTY - PATH THIS HAS TAKEN. - THE GOAL POST-S HA,VE MOV - THERE WAS TALK OF A BAN, OF - MAYBE BITE DANCE, THE COMPANY - THAT OWN TIKTOK, WOULD HAVE TO - SELL TIKTOK TO AN AMERICAN FIRM. - WHERE DOES THAT STAND NOW? - >>HE GOALPOSTS HAVE CHANGED - AND THE CONVERSATION HAS - CHANGED. - WHERE IT STANDS RIGHT NOW IS - BITE DANCE IS LIKELY TOONTROL - MAJORITY ACCESS OF TIKTOK AND, - MOST IMPORTANTLY, TO CONTROL - AMERICAN PARTNER, MOSTLY LIKELY - ORACLE, WOULD HOSANT AMER - USER DATA, SO THE DATA THE TRUMP - ADMINISTRATION IS WORRIED ABOUT - WOULD BE HOSTED IN THE UNITED - STATES BUT ORACLE WOULD A - MINORITY PARTNER. - SO IT'S A MUCH SMALLER SEPTHAN - WHAT THE TRUMP ADMINISTRATION - INITIALLY ASKED FOR WHICH WAS AN - OUTRIGHT SALE OF TIKTOK. - Reporter: SO IF THE CONCERN

- IS TRYING TO PROTECT AMERICANS' - PRIVACY, THE PRIVACY OF THEIR - DIGITAL DATA, WOULD THAT STEP - SATISFY THAT IFCL ORAWAS - HOLDING THAT INFORMATION HERE - BUT TIKTOK STILLIVED "IN - CHINA," DOES THAT SATISFY THATCO - ERN? - >> YES, ABSOLUTELY. - I MEAN, THAT IS A GREAT - QUESTION, ANI THINK THT IT - PROBABLY DOES SATISFY THAT - CONCERN. - I ALSO THINK THAT THE - FUNDAMENTAL CONCERN IS MUCH MORE - ONE OF THE GENERAL TECH WAR WITH - CHINA. - I MEAN, THIS IS A SUOF A - CONVERSATION THAT HAS BEEN GOING - ON FOR A COUPLE OF YEARS WHE - THE UNITED STATES GOVERNMENT IS - REALLY TRYING TO CRACK DOWN ON - THE TECHNOLOGICAL POWER - CHINA. - CHINA IS BECOMING MUCH LESS OPEN - UNITED STATES AND WE'RE IN THE - SPLITTING SOMETIMES CALLED THEFL - TERNET INTO THE UNITED - STATES INTERNET ANTHE CHINESE - INTERNET, AND THIS IS SOMETHING - NY IN THE UNITED STATES - INCLUDING THE TRUMP - ADMINISTRATION ARE ADVOCATING - FOR AND SOMETHING OTHER PEOPLE - FIND EXTREMELY DANGEROUS AND - POTENTIALLY INEFFICIENT. - >> Reporter: JUST AS YOUSA'RE

- NG IT IS BEING SEEN AS A - PROXY WAR BETWEEN THE TWO - SUPERPOWERS, I MEAN, IF YOU - WANTED TO GO ABOUT DOING TIS, - IT SEEMS LIKE YOU WOULD - INSTITUTE A MUCH MORE BROADER - POLICY THAT APPLIED TO ALL - AMERICANS' DATA RATHERHAN, PER - SE, PICKING ON ONE COMPANY, TWO - COMPANIES, THREE COMPANIES. - >> YEAH, THAT IS A VERY SMART - RIGHT NOW.F WHAT'S GOING ON - SO ONE CAN ARGUE THAT WHAT THE - TRUMP ADMINISTRATION SHOULD HAVE - DONE IF THEY'RE ALLY CONCERNED - ABOUT DATA PROTECTION AND ABOUT - CHINA IS THEY SHOULD HAVE COME - UP WITA SET OF BLANKET - POLICIES AND RULES, INSTEAD OF - CHARGING AT TIKTOK AND CHANGING - DIRECTION, THE CONVERSATION, - LYCHANGES WHAT EXAAS BEING - REQUIRED, WHICH HAS LED US INTO - A VERY STRANGE WHA WHA AMOLE - SITUATION, WHICH IS THIS - ENORMOUSLY CONVERSATION BETWEEN - TECH DYNAMICS IN THE UNITED - STATES AND CHAIN, ONE TO HAVE - THE MOTAST IMP CONVERSATIONS - IN ALL OF TECH HAS GOTTEN - TANGLED UP IN THIS NASTY, CRY - AND CONFUSING FIGHT OVER TIKTOK,

- AND THAT IS A RESULT OF AMERICAN - POLICY THAT, AS YOUGEST, HA - KIND OF SHIFTED AROUND IN WAYS - THAT ARE SOMETIS HARD TO - FATHOM. - >> Reporter: ALL RIGHT, NICK - THOMPSON, EDITOR AND CHIEF OF - "WIRED" MAGAZINE, THANK YOU FOR - HELPING US WADE THROUGH ALL OF - THIS. - >> THANK YOU SO MUCH. - >> Woodruff: IN A FEW WEEKS' - TIME, THE U.S. WIL YENTER THE - 20R OF WAR IN AFGHANISTAN, - WHEN THE U.S. INVADED AFTER - 9/11. - NEARLY 3,600 A - HAVE SINCE DIED THERE, AND - HUNDREDS OF THOUSANDS OF - AFGHANS. - BUT FOR THE PRECEDING 20 YEARS, - AFGHANS HAD ALSO BEEN AT WAR: - WITH THE SOVIETS, AND THEN - THEMSELVES. - NOW, IN THE CAPITAL OF QATAR, - THE FIRST TALKS BETWEEN THE - AFGHAN GOVERNMENT AND TALIBAN - ITSURGENTS HAVE BEGUN, MIDWIFED - BY THE U.S., ANDTHEM, - THE FIRST FLICKERS OF HOPE FORND

- ANO WAR. - HERE'S NICK SCHIFRIN. - ( PRAYING ) - >> Schrin: EVERY WAR MUST END. - AND IF THE AFGHAN WAR ENDS SOON, - THE BEGINNING OF THE END WILL BE - THIS CONFERENCE ROOM. - ON ONE SIDE, AFGHANISTAN'SMO - ATICALLY-ELECTED - GOVERNMENT; ON THE OTHER, - LEADERS OF THE VIOLENT - INSURGENCY THE TALIBAN. - BOTH EXPRESSED HOPE. - >> ( translated ): NEGOTIATIONS - VE PROBLEMS, BUT WE HOPE - THAT THE DISCUSSIONS SHOULD MOV - FORWTH PATIENCE. - >> ( translated ): MY DELEGATION - AND I HAVE COME TO DOHA TO - FIGURE OUT A PROCESS TO CLOSE - THE GATES OF WAR AND PAIN - FOREVER. - >> Schifrin: LAST WEEKEND'S - RELATIVELY WARM WORDS WERE A - GOOD SIGN FOR TWO SIDES WHO'VE - BEEN FIGHTING TO DETERMINE - AFGHANISTAN'S CATURE FOR TWO - S. - >> THE FUNDAMENTAL QUESTION ON - THE TABLE FOR NEGOTIIS, - WHAT IS THE AFGHAN STATE GOING - TO LOOK LIKE? - S Schifrin: LAUREL MILLER - THE INTERNATIONAL CRISIS GROUP'S - SENIOR DIRECTOR FOR ASIA. - SHE SAYS BEFORTHAT CORE

- QUESTION CAN BE SWERED, THE - TWO SIDES HAVE TO NEGOTIATE - HOW THEY'LL NEGOTIATE. - >> WHAT THE RULES OF PROCEDURE, - SO TO SPEAK, WILL BE FOR THE - PROCESS. - THE NEXT STEP WILL BE TO AGREE - ON WHAT THE AGENDA WILL BE. - >> Schifrin: THE AFGHAN - GOVERNMENT WANTS THE AGENDA TO - BEGIN WITH A CEASEFIRE. - THE GOVERNMENT SAYS 1,200 PEOPLE - HAVE BEEN KILLED, AND 15,000JU - WOUNDED, I THE LAST SIX - MONTHS. - >> A CEASEFIRE, AN IMMEDIATEEF - CEE, SILENCING THE GUNS, - IS WHAT PEOPLE WANT. - >> Schifrin: NADER NADERY IS A - MEMBERF THE GOVERNMENT'S - NEGOTIATION TEAM, AND A SENIOR - ADVISOR TO THE AFGHAN PRESIDENT. - HE SPOKE TO US FROM DOHA. - >> AFGNS ACROSS THIS COUNTRY - DESERVE TO BE HEARD, AND THEY - ACTUALLY DESERVE A PEACEFUL - LIFE, FREE OF VIOLENCE. - ( SIRENS ) - >> Schifrin: BUT VIOLENCE IS - THE TALIBAN'S LEVERAGE, AND - THE TALIBAN WON'T AGREE TO A - CEASEFIRE BEFORE AGREEING ON A - NEW GOVERNMENT THAT INCLUDES - THEM, SPOKESMAN MOHAMMAD NAEEM - TOLD AFGHANISTAN'S TOLO NEWS. - >> ( translated ): IT DOES NOT

- MAKE SENSE TO END 20 YEARSR F - ONE HOUR. - BE LOGICAL TO DISCE MAIN WOULD - ASPECTS OF THE PROBLEMS, AND - THEN FINALIZE A CEASEFIRE, SO R - THE PROBLEM OLVED - PERMANENTLY. - >> Schifrin: BUT WHA OF - GOVERNMENT DOES THE TALIBAN - WANT? - IN THE '90s, THEY RULED - AFGHANISTAN, CLAIMING THEIR - VERSION OF AN ISLAMIC LAW WITH - AUSTERITY, BRUTALITY AND - SUBJUGATION OF WOMEN AND - MINORITIES. - >> Schifrin: TODAY, - AFGHANISTAN'S PARLIAMENT HAS A - THE U.S. CONGRESS, AND MORE THAN - THREE MILLION GIRLS ARE IN - SCHOOL. - THE TALIBAN RECENTLY SUGGESTED - THEY COULD ALLOW FEMALE - EDUCATION AND POLITIANS-- - BUT NO FEMALE CHIEF JUSTICE OR - PRESIDENT. - >> THAT'S NOT ACCEPTABLE TO - AFGHAN WOMEN AT ALL, TO AFGHANS - IN GENERAL - IT'S NOT ACCEPTABLE TO ME, FOR - MY DAUGHTERS - >> Schifrin: IN WASHINGTON, - THERE'S BIPARTISAN WORRY THE - TALKS WILLRODE HUMAN RIGHTS. - JUST YESTERDAY, FOREIGN AFFAIRS - COMMITTEE LEADERS-- DEMOCRAT - ELIOT ENGEL AND REPUBLICAN MIKE - McCAUL-- WROTE A LETTER URGING - ANY DEAL TO PRIORITIZE WOMEN'S - EMPOWERMENT. - BUT THE ADMINISTRATION HAS MADE

- CLEAR, ITS PRIORITY IS - WITHDRAWAL. - >> IT'S TIME, AFTER ALL THESE - YEARS, TO GO AND TO BRING OUR - PEOPLE BACK HOME. - >> Schifrin: THE U.S. IS - REDUCING FORCETO 4,500 BY - NOVEMBER, AND HAS AGREED TO - WITHDRAW ALL U.S. SERVICE - MEMBERS BY NEXT APRIL-- IF THE - TALIBAN DOESN'T HARBOR AL QAEDA, - AND CONTINUES NEGOTIATIONS. - CRITICS HAVE CALLED THAT DEAL AT - RUSH TO THE THAT WEAKENED - A FRAGILE AFGHAN GOVERNMENT. - THE GOVERNMENT HAD TO RELEASE - 5,000 TALIBAN PRISONERS, SOME - RESPONSIBLE FOR HORRIFIC ATTACK, - AGAINST AFGHND THE DEATHS - OF U.S. TROOPS. - >> WE'RE NOT HAPPY ABOUT THAT, - AND-- BUT SOMETIMES, YOU KNOW, - YOU HAVE TO MAKE THE HARD - DECISIONS. - >> Schifrin: THE LEAD AMERICAN - AS BEEN AMBASSADOR - ZALMAY KHALILZAD. - HE'S SUGGESTED THE U.S. WANTS - NEGOTIATORS TO ACHIEVE QUICK - PROGRESS BY ADOPTING A" - THE AFGHAN GOVERNMENT WORRIES - THAT ROADMAP MIGHT FCE IT TO - CREATE A WEAK INTERIM GOVERNMENT - WITHOUT THEM.

- >> YOU CAN AGREE ON A T OF - PRINCIPLES FOR GOVERNANCE, THAT - ARE YOUR BUILDING BLOCKS FOR - THAT FUTURE AGREEMENT. - BUT THAT'S DIFFERENT THAN-- - THAN, SAY, TO SIMPLY HAND AWAY - POWER TO SOME KIND OF INTERIM - GOVERNMENT WITH A VERY - MINIMALIST ROADMAP AGREEMENT. - ROADMAP TO WHERE? - UNKNOWN. - >> Schifrin: AFGHANS ARE - CONCERNED PRESIDENT TRUMP WILL - PUSH FOR A HASTY DEAL BEFORE - ELECTION DAY. - UL WE NEED TO HAVE PATIENCE AND - THEREFORE TO CAR PROCEED - THROUGH IT, TO NOT FOLLOW - CERTAIN SHORT TIMELINES AND - DEADLINES. - >> Schifrin: BUT AFTER THE U.S.' - LONGEST WAR REACHED ITS 20th - YEAR, THE MILITARY, THE - ADMINISTRATION, AND THE U.S. - PUBLIC SUPPORT A DEAL, EVEN IF - IT MEANS SOME TALIBAN CONTROL. - >> WHAT IT WOULD MEAN IS THE - MOST EXPLICIT ACKNOWLEDGMENT YET - THAT THE U.S. DID NOT WIN THE - WAR IN AFGHANISTAN. - THE TALIBAN WAS SUFFICIENTLY - SUCCESSFUL TO COMPEL THE U.S. TO - MAKE SIGNIFICANT CONCESSIONS TO - THAT GROUP.HI

- >> Schifrin:WEEK, AFGHANS - MBREMEMBERED THEIR FAMILY S - KILLED BY THE TALIBAN. - MAH JAN LOST HER SON. - >> ( translated ): I CAN - ONLY FORGIVE IF I WITNESS - LASTING PEACE. - >> Schifrin: IN A LAND THAT HAS - KNOWN LITTLE PEACE OR - FORGIVENESS, THERE IS DESPERATE - HOPE FOR BOTH. - FOR THE PBS NEWSUR, I'M - NICK SCHIFRIN. - >> Woodruff: NOW, TO HELP MAKE - SENSE OF THIS WEEK IN LITICS, - IT'S TIME FOR THE ANALYSIS OF - SHIELDS AND BROOKS. - THAT'S SYNDICATED COLUMNIST MARK - SHIELDS, AND "NEW YORK TIMES" - COLUMNIST DAVID BROOKS. - HELLO TO BOTH OF YOU. - LET'S START WITH THE PRESIDENT - AND SCIENCE. - DAVID, TODAY THE PRESIDENT IS - ALSAYING AMERICANS SHOUL HAVE - ACCESS TO A VACCINE BY APRIL, - BUT THIS IS COMPLETELY DIFFERENT - FROM WHAT HE SAID YESTERDAY. - HE WAS CONTRADICTING HIS OWN - RECTOR FOR THE CENTERS FOR

- DISEASE CONTROL DR. ROBERT - REDFIELD WHO USAID IT WO TAKE - TIME, MONTHS, THAT MASKS AREAN - IMPO - YESTERDAY THE PRESIDENT SAID OF - DR. REDFIELD, HE'S MISTAKEN, - IT'S RIGEHT AROUND CORNER. - WHAT ARE WE TO MAKE TO HAVE THE - PRESIDENT'S LEADERSHIP ON THIS, - HOW MUCH DOES IT MATTER TO - VOTERS? - >> WELL, WE'VE HAD SIX MONTHS, - NOW, OF ERRATIC BEHAVIOR, - ERRATIC STATEMENTS, SE - COMPLETELY CRAZY STATEMENTS. - YOU CONTRAST ANGELA MERKEL AND - MANY OTHER LEADERSD ROUND THE - WOTH DONALD TRUMP AND IT'S - A NIGHT AND DAY CONTRAST. - WE'RE EVEN LEARNING AND THE - "TIMES" HAS A STORY OUT THAT - E-MAILS THAT MICHAEL CAPO, - TRUMP'S H.H.S. OFFICIAL AND A - PART-TIME PROFESSOR NAMED PAUL - ALEXANDER WERE SENDING TO THE - C.D.C. TO BASICALLYERRORI - THE SCIENTISTS TO HAVE THE - C.D.C. - THE C.D.C. WAS CREATED FOR A - MOMENTNUCH AS THISD THEY - WERE RENDERED STRANGELY MUTE AND - NOW WE UNDERSTAND WHYCAUSE - THERE WAS ESSENTIALLY A CAMPAIGN - VETERANDATION TO GET A

- SCIENTIST OF THE C.D.C. TO NOT - SAY WHAT THEY BELIEVE. - SO IT'S NOT ONLY THE - ADMINISTRATION, IT'S SORT OF THE - SEMI-COMPETENT OR INCOMPETENT - BRUTES IN THE MIDDLE OFEH - ADMINISTRATION. - >> Woodruff: MAK, WHAT DOES - THIS ADD UP TO AT THIS POINT? - >> WELL, IN A CSS POLITICAL - SENSE, JUDY, IT'S BAD FOR THE - PRESIDENT. - IEAN, THIS IS AN ISSUE, THERI - PANDEMICS, IN WHICH THE - PRESIDENT IS RUNNING ABOUT TWO - TO ONE BEHIND JOE BIDEN I - VIRTUALLY EVERY POLL AS TO WHO'S - BETTER ON IT. - THE ONLY OTHER ISSUE IN WCH - BIDEN IS COMPABLY AS STRONG IS - HEALTHCARE. - SO EVERY T DONALD TRUMP TALKS - ABOUT IT IN THAT SENSE HE HURTS - ABOUT AN ISSUE IN WHICH HE IS - NOT BELIEVABLE AND HAS VERY - LITTLE PUBLIC CONFIDENCE. - THE SECOND FACTOR IS, FOR A - VACCINE TO BE EFFECTIVE, THEREHA - TO BE CONFIDENCE AND TRUST - IN THE AMERICAN PEOPLE.ST - THE LAOLL I SAW SHOWED 51%

- OF AMERICANS, AT THIS POINT, - CAUSE OF ALL THAT'S GONE ON - AND ALL THE SNIPING ANDD - CRITICIZING E SABOTAGING - THAT DAVID DESHACRIBED - RESULTED IN 51% DEFINITELY WOULD - TAKE A VACCINE. - A VACCINE WILL BE OF NO VALUE - UNLESS IT'S NEARLY UNIVERSALLY - TAKEN. - SO IN A PUBLIC HEALTH SENSE, IN - A POLITICAL SENSE, IT'S BEEN - DISASTROUS. - >> SO, DAVID, WHAT ARE THE - AMERICAN PEOPLE TO BELIEVE? - I MEAN, IT'S NOT JUST THE - PRESIDENT'S STATEMENTSS - CONTRADICTING N - SCIENTISTS, AS YOU SAID. - IT'S WHAT APPEARS TO , IF THE - REPORTING IS RIGHT, POLITICAL - INTERFERENCE, N.I.H. ORTHE - NATIONAL INSTITUTES OF HEALTH, - OFFICIALS THROUGHOUT THE - ADMISTRATION, THE DEPARTMENT - OF HEALTH AND HUMAN SERVICES - APPARENTLY TINKERING WITH THE - WEB SITE OF THE C.DIV.C.,ING - ADVICE THAT'S COUNTER TO WHAT - OTHERS HAVE SAID, SCIENTIST HAVE

- SAID. - WHAT ARE THE AMERICAN PEOPLE O - BELIEVE? - THE HEAD OF THE NATURE FRANCISS. - COLLINS IS ONE OF THE MOST - CREDIBLE MECAN IN AMEND HE'S - BEEN STRONG AND NOT LETTING THE - ADMINISTRATION PUSH N.I.H. - AROUND, DR. REDFIELD HAS BEEN - MORE AGGRESSIVE RECENTLY, FAUCI - HAS BNGEN STHROUGHOUT. - I THINTHERE'S A SENSE THAT - SOME PEOPLE WHO RUN THESE - INSTITUTIONS WHOSE HO IN - THE PROFESSIONAL STANDARDS OF - THE INSTITUTIONS ARE BEGINNING - TO STAND UP AND THE PEOPLE CAN - TRUST THOSE LEADE. - IT'S MOSTLY THE VACUUM IN THE - WHITE HOUSE. - A LOT OF THE THINGS WE'VE KNCOON - ABOUVID ARE NOT BRAIN - SCIENCE. - WEAR A MASK.E - THINGS ARE JUST NOT -- - THEY'RE NOT HARD. - WE JUST EED A SENSETHAT - EVERYBODY IN SOCIETY BELIEVES IN - DIEM AND, SO, THERE'S A SENSE - THAT WE'RE ALL H EACH - OTHER ACCOUNTABLE, AND THAT HAS - BEEN LACKING FOR SIX MONTHS. - >> Woodruf DOES THAT HAVE - LONGER-LASTING -- DOESN'T THAT - DO LOGER-LASTING DAMAGE, MARK? - >> IT DOES, JUDY. - I'NOT SAYING POLITICS HAS BEEN N

- POLITICS-PROOF, IT HASN'T, BUT - IT'S BEEN PARTISAN POLITICS FREE - THE INSTITUTIONS VE ESPECIALLY - MENTIONED, THE N.I.H. AND THE - C.D.C. - AND IT'S A PATTERN. - I CAOT THINK OF A SINEGL - PUBLIC INSTITUTION THAT IS - STRENGTHENED, EMBELLISHED, - ENHANCED BY THIS ADMINISTRATION, - WHERE PUBLIC TRUST, PUBLIC - CONFIDENCE HAS BEENNCREASED. - IT'S A TERRIBLE, TERRIBLE - INDICTMENT. - JUST IN A CRASS, POLITICAL - SENSE, IT'S A DISASTER FOR - DONALD TRMP. - I MEAN, HE'S JUST IN THE MATTER - OF EXPECTATIONS. - HE SET UNREALISTIC EXPECTATIONS - ON THIS.ES - THE DEBRE COMING UP. - JOE BIDEN HAS LED IN EVERY POLL - OVER DONALD TRUMP.CE JANUARY - THE DEBATES ARE HIS BEST CHANCE. - SO WHAT DO THEY DO -- GEORGE - BUSH PEOPLE 2000 IN THE - DEBATE AGAINST AL GORE LAID

- OUTTHE PREDICATE AL GORE WAS A - WORLD CLASS DEBATER AND HE WAS - JUST A POOR BOY FRXOM TEAS. - WHEN GEORGE BUSH SHOWED UP AND - DID BETTER THAN EXPECTED, IT WAS - A VICTORY. - INSTEAD, RUNNING AGAINST JOE - , BIDEN, DONALD TRUNSTEAD OF - SAYING JOE BIDEN TWICE VOTED FOR - THE VICE PRESIDENT, CRUSHED PAUL - RYAN THE GOLDEN BOY TO HAVE THE - REPUBLICAN PARTY INDEPENDENT - LEKTUALLY, WHAT DO THEY SAY? - HE CAN'T PUT TWO SENNCES - TOGETHER, SLEEPY JOE, DUMB EJOE. - THEY'VE LOWERED THE - EXPECTATIONS. - SO WHEN BIDEN SHOWS UP AS HE DID - LAST NIGHT IN TOWN HAUNAND CN - AND IS COHERENT AND LUCID AND - EMPATHETIC, IT'S ACTORY FOR - HIM. - I DO NOT UNDERSTAND WHAT DONALD - TRUMP IS DOING. - HE MAKING HSELF THE ISSUE, - THE REFERENDUM ON HIM, TRYING TO - NOT TO MAKE IT A COICE ELECTION - WHICH IS THE ONLY CHANCE HE HAS - TO WIN. - >> Woodruff: DAVID, IS JOE - BIDEN'S MESSAGE OR MESSAGES - GETTING THROU? - >> WELL, I THINK THE ONE THING

- HE SHIFTED TO RECENTLY THAT I - THINK IS NCESSARY IS A MCH - STARKER WORKING CLASS MESSAGE. - THIS WAS HOW I FAULTED THE - DEMOCRATIC CONVENTION, THEY - REALLY DID NOT GOER AFTORKING - CLASS VOTERS IN PLACES LIKE - PENNSYLVANIA. - IF YOU LOOKT AT THE POLLS, THE - DEMOCRATS AND BIDEN CAMPAIGN ISU - DOINE WELL ALL OF A SUDDEN - IN PLACES LIKE WISCONSIN, - MINNESA, ARIZONA, BUT THNGS - ARE TIGHTENING IN PENNSYLVANIA - AND FLORIDA. - DRAIN THERE FOR BIDEN.LIT - HE'S GOING DOWN, TRUMP IS GOING - UP.I - SO THEY'VE SED IN THE LAST - W WEEKS TO A MUCH MORE - POPULOUS RHETORIC, AND TAT'S - SORT OF THE RHETORIC OBAMA USED - AGAINST ROMNEY YEARS AGO, AND IT - WORKED. - IT WORKED FOR OBA I. - THINK MOVING TO A LITTLE - MORE HE'S THE RICH GUY, THIS IS - THE CLASS OF THE RICH GUYS, - LET'S NOT FORGET THAT, THAT'S - SOMETHING HE HAS TO LIT HARDER - THAN SO FAR. - >> Woodruff: YEAH, WE'VE SEEN - SOME POLLS MOVING AROUND IN - DIFFERENT DIRECTIONS. - BUT, MARK, YOU MENTIONED BIDEN'S

- MESSAGE, HOW HE CAME ACROSS - OVERNIGHT. - IS HIS MESSAGE COMING THROUGH? - THE PRESIDENT IS GETTING MORE - COVERAGE BECAUSE HE'S SIMNGPLY - GENERAEWS FOR THE HOUR. - >> HE IS BUT IT HASN'T BEEN GOOD - NEWS. - I AGREE TITH DAVAT JOE - BIDEN'S MESSAGE HAS BEEN BETTER - AND SHARPER. - UNDERSTAND TS ABOUT JOE - BIDEN'S CAMPAIGN -- HE WON ONE - MAJOR PRIMARY IN 2020, - SOUTH CAROLINA, AND THEN HE - BREEZED TO THE NOMINATION. - TO HE REALLYID NOTAVE A - BATTLE-TESTED CAMPAIGN IN THE - STATES -- IN THE BATTLEGROUND - STATES. - CONTESTS.R GOT TO THOSE - SO THE'S BEEN A SHAKEDOWN - CRUISE, AND THINK WE'RE SEEING - THAT. - AND AS FAR AS JOE BIDEN HIMLF, - I MEAN, I THINK HE'S MOREMF - TABLE HE IS AS HE TALKS - ABOUT SCRANTON, THE MORE HE'S - JOE SCRANTON AND LESS HE'S JOE - AVIATOR GLASSES, THE BETTER FOR - THE DEMOCRATS.

- I MEAN, I THINK IT'S THAT - SIMPLE, THAT STRAIGHTFORWARD. - >> Woodruff: JOE WITH THE - AVIATOR GLASSES. - ALL RIGHT, WE'RE THINKING OUT - THAT. - BACK TO THE PRESIDENT, THOUGH, - DAVID, LAST NIGHTYESTERDAY HE - GAVE REMARKS WHERE HE BROUGHT UP - WHAT HELLED PATRIOTIC - EDUCATION AND RAILED AGAINST ANY - EFFORT TO TEACH MORE ABOUT BLACK - AMERICAN HISTORY, THE HISTORY OF - SLAVERY, TOMPHASIZE THAT IN - AMERICAN CLASSROOMS. - IS THIS AN ISSUE THAT CAN PUNCH - THROUGH TO VOTERS IN THIS - ELECTION? - >> YEAH, I DO THINK THAT IT IS - AN ISSUE. - TRP IS GOOD AT CULTURE WAR - ISSUES, AND THERE'S A KERNEL OF - TRUTH TO THE PROBLEM HE - IDENTIFIES. - IT IS A TRE THAT SOME OF THE - IDEAS OF CRITICAL RACE THEORIES - HAVE GONE INTO AMERICAN SCHOOLS, - THE IDEA THAT SOCIETY IS - ESSENTIALLY A POWER STRUGGLE - BETWEEN GROUPS AND WORDS ARE - REALLY MASK FOR GROUP POWER AD - CIVILITY IS A MASK FOR GROUP - POWER, THAT IS AN IDEA COMMON IN

- THE UNIVERSITIES AND SPREADING - AROUND AMERICAN CULTURE. - THE SOLUTION IS NOT TO HAVE A - COUNTERINDOCTRINATION, THE - SOLUTION IS TO HAVE CIVICS - EDUCATION AND EDUCATION THAT - TELLS AN ACCURATE STORY SHOWING - AMERICA'S SINS AND GRIES. - THAT'SBVIOUSLY HOW TRUMP IS - TALKING ABOUT IT. - HE'S TALKING ABOUT A COUNTER - IDEOLOGY. - NONETHELESS, I THINK THE ISSUE - IS A POWERFUL ONE - I THINK PEOPLE LOOK AROUND AND - SEE AMERICA IS A LAND OF - GENOCIDE ANDLAVERY. - IT IS BUT IT'S NOT ALL THAT. - SO THEY SEE AMERICA AND THE - PATRIOTISM THEY HOLD DEAR BEING - RUN DOWN, AND I THINK THIS HAS - ALWAYS BEEN A COPERRE PART OF - TRUMP'S MESSAGE, AND HE'S NOT -- - IPOLITICAY, HE'S NOTRAZY TO - UNFURL IT AGAIN. - >> Woodruff: AND PINGCP ON - WHAT DAVID SAID, MARK, THERE - WAS, JUST YESTERDAY, A - BIPARTISAN PIECE OF LEGISLATION - INTRODUCED IN THE CONGRESS TO - PROMOTE CIVIC EDUCATION IN A WAY - THE OPPOSITE OF WHAT THE - PRESIDENT IS TALKING ABOUT. - BUT DO YOU THINK THE PRESIDENT - CAN BE EFFECTIVE WITH THIS TACK, - THIS EMPHASIS?

- >> I DON'T, JUDY. - I MEAN, I THINK IT'S A - PROPAGANDA HE'S POSING. - ARE ERE PCAST OF IN - ACADEMIA? - NO QUESTION ABUT IT. - PRESENTING THE COUNTRY FOUNDED - BY REMARKABLE INDIVIDUALS WHO - HAD FLAUSWS, SERLAWS, BUT - HAVE BEEN A SELF-CORRECTING - COUNY, AND WE CONTINUE THA - PROCESS. - ETH BEEN PAINFUL, IT'S BEEN - BLOODY, IT'SEEN SLOW, BUT - THE THAT'S OF AMERICA, IN MYAN - JUDGMENT, AND I REALLY -- I - REALLY LOOK AT THIS AND SAY THT - THE EFFORT BY ROSA DELARO, A - DEMOCRAT FROM CONNECTICUT, AND - TOM POLE, REPUBLICAN FROM - amaCare, ON CIVIC EDUCATION - ON CAPITOL HILL IS A SERIOUS - EFFORT. - IT IS IMPORTANT.

- FOR STUDENTS AND ALL AMERICANS - TO UNDERSTAND THE OBLIGATIONS AS - WELL IS THECREDIBLE RIGHTS OF - BEING AN AMERICAN CITIZEN. - >> Woodruff: NO QESTION WE - ALL NEED TO BE THINKING A LOT - MORE ABOUT EDUCATION. - IT'S DECIDED AT THE LOCAL ,VEL - BUT EVERY AMERICAN IS INVESTED. - WE'RE GOING TO LET ONE OF YOU GE - LEPHONE. - MARK SHIELDS, DAVID BROOKS, - THANK YOU. - >> Woodruff: AND NOW, WE - CONTINUE OUR TRIBUTE TO THOSE - LOST TO COVID-19. - IT IS OUR 23rd FRIDAY DOING - THIS, AS THE UNITED STATES - APPROACHES A GRIM MILESTONE OF - TONIGHT, WE RECOGNIZE FIVE MORE. - YOLANDA COAR LIVED BY THE MANTRA - "BE EXCEPTIONAL," HER HUSBAND - SAID. - SHE WORKED HER WAY UP TO BECOME - A NURSE MANAGER IN AUGUSTA, - GEORGIA.

- WHEN SHE DIED AT 40, SHE WAS - STUDYING FOR HER MASTER'S IN - NURSING. - WHILE AT THE HOSPITAL, SHE MET - HER HUSBAND OF NEARLY 10 YEARS. - RNEY QUICKLY BONDED OVER THEIR - SORORITY AND FRAY - MEMBERSHIPS. - LIVELY AND OUTGOING, YOLANDA - NEVER SAT STILL. - SHE LOVED THE OUTDOORS AND - ATTENDING BASEBALL GAMES WITH - HER TWO SONS - NINA POPOVA LIVED TO DANCE. - BORN IN RUSSIA AND RAISED IN - PARIS, HER TALENT TOOK HER TO - NEW YORK IN 1939 WHEN SHE JOINED - THE ORIGINAL BALLET RUSSE. - THROUGHOUT HER CAREER, NINA - PERFORMED ON BROADWAY, - DANCED WITH WHAT IS TODAY THE - AMERICAN BALLET THEATRE, AND - SERVED AS THE ARTISTIC DIRECTOR - OF THE HOUSTON BALLET. - HER DAUGHTER SAID NINA HAD A - STRONG PERSONALITY. - SHE WAS 97 YEARS OLD. - GROWING UP IN TUSCALOOSA, - ALYSON MATTHEWS DONNED BOWS AND - PEARLS, BUT WAS AN EXPERT IN - ALABA FOOTBALL.

- FOLLOWING IN THE FAMILY - BUSINESS, SHE WENT TO LAW - SCHOOL, BUNEVER PRACTICED-- - SHE WASN'T ABLE TO GIVE UP HER - CAREER AS A MEDICAL SOCIAL - WORKER IN A NURSING HOME. - CRIMSON TIDE, THE R-OLDTHE - 18LL IN LOVE WITH AN AUBURN FAN. - THEY MARRIED IN AFTER - NEARLY 20 YEARS TOGETHER. - BERNARD FILS-AIMÉ COMMITTED HIS - LIFE TO ACTIVISM FOR IMMIGRANT - THE NATIVE OF HAITA - STUDENT ACTIVIST IN NEW YORK - WHEN HE MET HIS WIFE OF MORE - THAN 40 YEARS. - TOGETHER, THEY MOVED TMIAMI - AND HELPED CREATE THE HAITIAN - REFUGEE CENTER IN THE 1980s. H - IN 2000, BERNAPED LAUNCH A - COMPANY TO PROVIDE CELL PHONE - SERVICES THROUGH HAITI. - STILL, HE ALWAYS HAD TIME FOR - HIS FAMILY, HIS SON SAID. - THE 67-YEAR-OLD WAS WARM, GAVE - SAGE ADVICE, AND FREQUENTLY - SMILED EAR-TO-EAR. - FELICIA FLORINE CAMPBELL WAS

- ALWAYS LOOKING FOR ADVENTURE AND - RISK, HER UGHTER SAID. - THE WISCONSIN NATIVE BRIEFLY - SERVED IN THE MARINES, MOVED TO - LAS VEGAS AND WROTE HER - DISSERTATION ON GAMBLING, AND - EMBARKED ON A 30-DAY TREK IN - PAKISTAN IN HER EARLY 50s. - FELIA'S DAUGHTER DESCRIBED H - AS FUNNY, OPINIONATED AND - STRONG. - THE LONGEST-SERVING PROFESSOR - AT THE UNIVERSITY OF NEVADA- - LAS VEGAS, FELICIA WAS PREPARING - TO TEACH THIS FALL, AT 89 YEARS - OLD. - AND WE WANT TO THANK FAMILY - MEMBERS OF ALL THESE WHO SHAREWI - THEIR STORIE US. - OUR HEARTS GO OUT TO YOU AND - EVERYONE WHO HAS LOST LOVED ONES - THROUGH THIS PANDEMIC. - >> Woodruff: IF YOU ARE A - HEALER, WHERE DO THOSE WHO HEAL

- TURN WHEN THEY TMSELVES MAY - NEED HEALING? - IN THE CASE OF A NUMBER OF - MEDICAL WORKERS AROUND THE - COUNY, THEY TURN TO MUSIC. - AS PART OF A NEW SERIES FOCUSING - ON THE CONNECTION BETWEEN ARTS - AND HEALTH, JEFFREY BRN WENT - TO NEWTON, MASSACHUSETTS - RECENTLY TO SEE HOW DOORS - ARE REGENERATING THEIR SPIRITS, - AND BECOMING BETTER PROVIDERS. - PART OF OUR ONGOING - ARTS AND CULTURE COVERAGE, - "CANVAS." - ♪ ♪ - >> Brown: IT'S CALLED THE - "NATIONAL VIRTUAL MEDICALOR - ESTRA"-- 60 MEDICAL - PROFESSIONALS AND STUDENTS FROM - AROUND THE COUNTRY, MUSICIANS - ALL, WHO COME TOGEER TO - PERFORM IN THE WAY THAT IS - SUDDENLY THE NEW NORMAL: - IN THE DIGITAL WORLD. - ♪ ♪ - BUT ON A RECENT DAY, EIGHT OF - THEM, LED BY CONDUCTOR JOHN - MASKO, WERE LIVE AND IN PERSON - FOR US, PLAYING PARTS OF WORKS - BY SEVERAL COMPOSERS AT A - SOCIALLY-DISTANCED BACKYD - GATHERING. - THIS IS A RARE CHANCE TO HEAR - THESE MEDICAL MUSITO PLAYD FOR - TOGETHER.

- FOR SOME OF THEM, THE MUSIC IS - ALSO A KIND OF HEALING IN A TI - OF TRAUMA. - ONE WAS VIOLIST DR. MICHAEL CHO, - WHO'S BEENN THE FRONTLINES OF - THE PANDEMIC. - >> I SAW A LOT OF REALLY, REALLY - SICK PEOPLE.SE - MY SPECIALTY ING SICK - PEOPLE. - THAT PART OF IT, I WAS USED TO. - JUST THE-- THE NUMBER OF PEOPLE - IN THAT CONDITION, I THINK THAT - WAS JUST-- IT WAS JUST, YOU - KNOW, MIND-BOGGLING. - >> Brown: A PULMONARY AND - CRITICAL CARE PHYSICIAN AT - ALIGHAM AND WOMEN'S HOSPIT IN - BOSTON, CHO HAS BEEN CARING FOR - PATIENTS MOST NEED OF - VENTILATORS TO HELP THEM - >> THERE IS A LOT GEDY. - THERE IS A LOT OF-- - I CAN REMEMBER, FOR EXAMPLE, - ONE OF THE WORST THINGS I THINK - ABE PANDEMIC IS SEEING - FAMILY MEMBERS, RIGHT? - SO, HUSBAND AND WIFE BOTH COME - IN. - A WOMAN AND HER NEPHEW, CK AT - THE SAME TIME. - AND MAYBE THEY BOTH SUCCUMB TO - THE ILLNESS. - I MEAN, THOSE KINDS OF THINGS - ARE JUST HORRIBLE TO THINK - ABOUT. - AND, TO HAVE MY COLLEAGUES AND - MY CO-WORKERS AND MY FRIENDS AND - MY FAMILY AND MUSIC IS WHAT - ♪EEPS ME RESILIENT THROUGH ALL - THIS. - ♪

- >> Brown: FOR MANY MEDICAL - PROFESSIONALS LIKE MICHAEL CHO, - MUSIC CAME BEFORE MEDI, AND - CONTINUES TO PLAY AN ENORMOUS - ROLE IN THEIR LIVES. - THE PAST DECADE HAS SEEN - STEA RISE IN THE NUMBER OF - SO-CALLED "MEDICAL ORCHESTRAS" - L OVER THE COUNTRY-- NOW - NUMBERING MORE THAN 20, NON- - PROFESSIONAL BUT VERY HIGH - QUALITY. - ♪ ♪ - ONE OF THE OLDEST, FOUNDED IN - 1984 BY MEMBERS OF THE HARVARD - MEDICAL SCHOOL, IS THE LONGWOODP - SYHONY ORCHESTRA IN BOSTON. - ♪ ♪ - PEDIATRICIAN LISA WONG HAS - SERVED AS ITS PRESIDENT, AND - VIOLINIST. - >> I THINK THE ATTENTION TO - DETAIL AND OUR TRAING FOR - LOOKING FOR BEAUTY AND WORKING - HARD TO MAKE THAT HAPPEN IS THE - SAME BETWEEN BEING A MUSICIAN - AND BEING A DOCTOR. - >> Brown: SHE'S NOW CARED FOR - SEVERAL GENERATIONS OF CHILDREN - IN THE BOSTON AREA, ANREMAINS - FASCINATED BY THE DEEP - CONNS BETWEEN MUSIC AND - MEDICINE, THE FACT THAT SO MANY - DOCTORS PLAYED INSTRUMENTS AS - CHILDREN AND STILL DO-- - "SCALES TO SLPELS: DOCTORS WHO - PRACTICE THE HEALING ARTS OF

- MUSIC AND MEDICINE."♪ - ♪ - THERE'S THE ACT OF CLOSE - "LISTENING"-- TO THE STRINGS OF - A FELLOW MUSICIAN, OR THE MURMUR - OF A PATIENT'S HEART. - THERE'S THE NEED FORAT - CONCENN AND STRIVING FOR - EXCELLENCE IN BOTH. - THERE'S EVEN NEUROLOGICAL - CONNTIVITY, SHE SAYS. - PLAYING MUSIC IN CHILDHOOD HELPS - WIRE AN "INFORMATION HIGHWAY" IN - E BRAIN. - >> ONCE THOSE HIGHWAYS ARE - CIESTABLISHED, YOU CAN PUTCE - THROUGH THAT, YOU CAN PUT - MEDICINE THROUGH THAT, YOU KNOW, - YOU DEVELOP THE BRAIN - DIFFENTLY. - SO WHAT THE NEURO-SCIENTISTS ARE - FINDING IS, THE BRAIN OF A - MUSICIAN LOOKSIFFERENT THAN A - BRAIN OFOMEONE WHO HASN'T - PLAYED MUSIC. - ♪ ♪ - >> Brown: THERE'S ALSO A GROWING - HELP PATIENTS DIRER MUSIC TO - DURING THE PANMIC, LONGWOOD - NUMBER OF LOCAL HOSPITALS.SIDE A - ♪ ♪ - AND WONG HELPED FORM THE "BOSTON - HOPE" HOSPITAL MUSIC PROJECT-- - MEDICAL AND OTHER MUSICIANS - PERFORMING FOR COVID PATIENTS.

- NOW, SHE SAYS, THE GROUP WANTS - TO FIND EVEN MORE WAYS TO HELP - FELLOW FRONTLINE MEDICAL - WORKERS, INCLUDING OFFERING - MUSIC LESSONS AND PERFORMANCES. - >> JUST OFFERING THEM SORT OF AN - ARRAY OF THINGS THAT THEY CAN DO - TO HEAL THAT WAY, AND TO GET - THEM A LITTLE BIT AWAY FROM, - JUST, THE DAY-TO-DAY CHALLENGES - OF THE MEDICINE ITSELF. - >> Brown: AND WHY IS THAT SO - NEEDED NOW? - WHAT HAVE YOU SEEN? - >> EXHAUSTION. - SADNESS. - HOPELESSNESS. - AND THEY WANT TO BE HEALING. - YOU KNOW, THIS IS WHAT POST-C - TRAUMARESS IS. - SO, WE'RE LOOKING AHEAD THAT THE - NEXT NUMBEOF YEARS, I THINK - IT'S GOING TO TAKE A LONG TIME - FOR OUR PROFESSION TO HEAL. - ♪ ♪R - >> Brown: FOW, THE NATIONAL - VIRTUAL MEDICAL ORCHESTRA IS - PROVIDING A SELECT GROUP FROM - TAROUND THE COUNTRY A PLA - HEAL AND CONNECT WITH SOME - LARGER PURPOSE. - >> WHEN YOU WORK WITDICAL - ORCHESTRA, YOU REALLY GET THAT - FRSPECTIVE THAT WE ARE HE - SPIRITUAL FULFILLMENT AND WE'RE - HERE TO ENJOY OURSELVES. - >> Brown: YOU FEELTHHAT? - >> I FEE BAUSE THEY FEEL

- THAT, YES. - ♪ ♪ - >> Brown: IT WAS STARTED THIS - SPRING B28-YEAR-OLD JOHN - MASO, THE SON OFWO PHYSICIANS - BUT NOT ONE HIMSELF, WHO'S - WORKED WITH MEDICAL MUSICIANS AS - MUSIC DIRECTOR OF THE PROVIDENCE - MEDICAL ORCHESTRA. - IT, LIKE ARTS GROUPS EVERYWHERE, - SHUT DOWN IN THE PANDEMIC. - >> I STARTED TO HEAR VERY - QUICKLY FROM PEOPLE ABOUT HOW IT - WAS SIMULTANEOUSLY HAPPENING - THAT THEIR STRESS LEVELS WERE - RISING ASTRONOMICALLY IN THEIR - PROFESSIONAL LIVES, AND THAT THE - VITAL OUTLET THEY HAD FOR, YOU - KNOW, RELIEVING THAT, AND FOR - USING A DIFFERENT PART OF THEIR - BRAIN, WAS NOW GONE. - >> Brown: FINDING THAT MOST - DIGITAL PLATFORMS DON'T ALLOW - FOR QUALITY RECORDINGS OF LARGE - GROUPS, MASKO HAS FOUND A NEW - WAY INTO PRODUCING IN VIRTUAL - SPACE: HE SENDS MUSICIANS A - VIDEO OF HIMSELF CONDUCTING A - THE INDIVIDUALS RECORD - THEMSELVES, SEND IN THEIR VIDEO, - AND THEN RE-WORK THEIR PARTS - BASED MASKO'S EMAIL NOTES. - THEN, THE 60 INDIVIDUAL "VOICES"

- ARE PUT TOGETHER BY PROFESSIONA - AUDIO AND VIPRODUCERS.LI - >> GROUP OURS ARE REALLY - INNOVATING THIS NEE OF WAY IN - MUSIC-MAKING, WHICH, EVEN WHEN - WE GET BACK TO PERFOVEING - REGULAR USIC, CAN FEED - BACKNTO THAT AND, YOU KNOW, - EXPAND THE SPHERE OF MUSIC- - MAKING. - >> Brown: RAISE YOUR HAND IF - YOU'RE HAPPY TO BE P MUSIC - WITH FELLOW HUMAN BEINGS? - >> TWO HANDS UP! - >> IT'S HARD AND IT'S NECESSARY - >> Brown: FOR NOW, THESE - MUSICIANS ARE LEFT WITH THIS - KIND OF DISTANCED GATHERING, - ALONG WITH A DEEP UNDERSTANDING - OF THE CONNECTIONS BETWEEN ART - AND MEDICINE-- INCLUDING WHENIT - THE HEALERS THEMSELVES IN - NEED. - >> IT'S HARD AND IT'S NECESSARYT

- TO KNOW OU NEED TO HEAL. - IT'S NECESSARY TO BE ABLE TO - BECOME REVITALIZED SO THAT YOU - HAVE ENOUGH ENERGY TO GO BACK - OUT. - AND THAT'S THE WHOLE THING ABOUT - THE ARTS-- THAT WILL REVITALIZE - OPPORTUNITY TO REALLY APPRECIATE - BEAUTY. - AND ONCE THAT'S FILLED, THEN YOU - N-- CAN GIVE IT BACK. - >> Brown: YOU'RE ALIVE AGAIN, IN - A SENSE. - >> ABSOLUTELY. - NG Brown: AND THERE IS NOT - LIKE LIVE MUSIC FOR THAT. - FOR THE PBS NEWSHOUR, I'M - JEFFREY BROWN IN NEWTON, - MASSACHUSETTS. - >> Woodruff: THANK YOU JEFF. - WE LOVE THAT. - ORD THAT IS THE NEWSHOUR F - TONIGHT. - I'M JUDY WOODRUFF. - HAVE A GREAT WEEKEND. - THANK YOU, PLEASE STAY SAFE, - AND GOOD NIGHT. - >> MAJOR FUNDING FOR THE PBS - BNEWSHOUR HAS BEEN PROVID - >> WHEN THE WORLD GETS - COMPLICATED, A LOT GOES THROUGH - YOUR MIND. - WITH FIDELITWEALTH MANAGEMENT, - A DEDICATED ADVISOR CAN TAILOR - ADVICE AND RECOMMENDATIONS TO - YOUR LIFE. - THAT'S FELITY WEALTH - MANAGEMENT. - >> CONSUMER CELLULAR. - >> JOHNSON & JOHNSON. - >> FINANCIAL SERVICES FIRM - RAYMOND JAMES.

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