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slow cooking porridge over hickory fire is a southern tradition of birmingham alabama is known for the variety of mouthwatering meat in sauces available here and there over the barbecue restaurants in the birmingham area where they have a single location or they're part of a jane they're all institutions for the preservation of southern culture but it's it's only some truly the iranians have it has there been any success at a chamber barbecue restaurant but because it's been so low what i want to write everything else is wrong in that but because of the demographic because our population growth people move in from around the country they don't necessarily have where they grew up allegiances and and that's why you're starting to see changes i think start to
succeed as these become their favorite places and then they go back he's got a lot of those a lot about barbie's he helped compile the heart of dixie glove box died of barbecue the family in alabama barbecue is the story that's what makes a good place so wonderful is you're not only associate yourself with the style of cooking in the sauce but what also what the family their their philosophy on software philosophy of cooking barbecue and just like you would associate with a plausible candidate is being affiliated with that fail to meet some of the families as we visit a man in a restaurant
besides barbecue has been in business since nineteen fifty seven when bob stop delivering bread and start a new career with his wife maxine their son ben grew up in the family business a group of army wives in tennis and when he was here they think it gives an op ed in the storyline party in the backyard and and that's how it started they were moving to a new york real estate is that with taxes and that's why don't we think of that restaurant the work together on that the avail
and the way it happened i wish i had a speaker system outside and were able to talk with iranians and there's no date they'll make it work so for three days later they'll do with all the contraption then look what we're working for lithuanians in need nailed it on the corner in the league in a local color you know one of the ibm as far back at that point in time this would nominate there was about not about
her father maxine were innovators in sales techniques but they're cooking techniques based on methods passed down through generations the barbecue pit you say in the background they're probably gets about twelve hundred are cell phones a day on and then on that they colonize we get way up was fifty thousand miles was a kid might make the whole show and a whole show what about ten to twelve miles or several years ago the hogs got bin laden and so a whole shoulders with him a good face that he really couldn't hear so most barbecue places started half in the shelter and cook in the boston globe which is that both in the show we always felt like the barbecue's better he had the bone amnesty amount while ago so we chose to take the bottom half of the show which is called making it and that bone likes it make the ice
it makes it more tender when the boeing gets hot it radiates the heat back out of the bone and ended it actually has a tender as in the flavoring effect of them may you can be sure the site's family legacy will be carried on four years ago and then his nephew jason has also grown up in the family business i don't think that anything can be more hard to have a better job really going to be able to carry on with them following her in your uncle have laid the groundwork for him and really i'm free alive i'm in an organization of southern that winds in and it's a lot of people like me that are trying to reach her you know if you will learn about a society that you think they don't learn a lot about the society and with a group of other riders
in talking with an online realize what i do and it's really important because i'm trying to restore a cooking process and a trans generational for years and years since i've been so i sort of the involvement you know today sitting here on morality of what i do that i never have been in my life because i realized i'm not and you have been told by two different family but the evans' family has actually come across thought about it to the us and forty five and he had it until nineteen seventy four and he
sold it to my mother launches a family basically because of evans' family owned cars and wearable a lot of voters they're meal rather than ever has now has been wooing year and get that money now if you're eating no longer had our barbecue sized asteroids pass the universality about it said so and in january of seventy kavanaugh has that they'll be tortured
the private collection finished fifties when i first came here our lawn alone and that's the flag that made it started in one iranian made now its white flowers flowers when iran detained and we're in heaven that and then have that bad large ditches sat down the aisle and in arizona slice and they have a righteous lives now one thing you might notice that they have that's because joel likes to take pictures of
people who leak we probably have the best mix in all honesty that there's little the us can attack in terms of flu and fears for the cross section of america in everybody's home oh i love it when john ashcroft the letters are out there were a lot of celebrities and then the uncensored and there were going to vote with a celebrity some of the state senators supreme court justices
here always somebody in there it's just there is just a great place to showcase a huge portion of his party it's easy to see why so many people have enjoyed carlisle through the year call out have mastered the art of cooking pasta but it really is yeah i worry about it thank you almost thirty years ago and in the cities the math architecture outside of it and
waves and you think so far the silver foil ever and thirty three ways seven or a jail down there it's been now the regular gas boom the plate a salad and coleslaw on our solvency are have been very decent
ms evans is on the cash register it cause every day even though she sold the restaurant her daughter years ago that then i just got more hours with incentives in that environment there are several causes locations in birmingham now when i started out here in nineteen eighty one wondered how they came up with the main cost that's a great line
there were forty years in the navy maria and their daughter cristina now major couple of mediterranean restaurant with a live every impulse behind it because there's a lot of great athletes a commercial scale in politics they will
go back at it pastors is known for a variety of foods including their black angus steaks but they don't sacrifice the quality of their barbeque these folks are serious about cooking pasta butts it was layers of regulations and certainly there are so many
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gentleman i don't really have a lot of issues lately no again by leave hungry will be will might get along the full moon barbecue got a new lease on life when two enterprising brother's bar in the workplace i will treasure from a retired football coach turned barbecue master myself
this is the line the earliest stage founders of the same businesses that are going to come up the lights on the tree shaded porch with a lot of this is all the assets that we have this one location this bill and as ej the moment where others have established under formal locations in birmingham and they're expanding beyond alabama but the originals outside location remains a testament to its founder pat james and all the customers want recipes
cates ceramic it's particularly have a lot of sports and with me and we live our lives we really used a lot of that goes on living things fill out those areas we also take some leave can be replaced like the grill in the swell season almost twenty five years ago so he replaced and that they are still in the spirit of that is great and he has such a great flavor it was successful
here you have a small team eighteen coming here since the late eighties the border james where's baby's arms and when you're talking about another question about what our voices that was
always so this week the gerber baby the original formula family that has been what they've been here you commit yourselves and special guests kat ahn sat sliced and sets lives quality time and exactly how i was going to want a lot of restaurants and want to shake your hand squeeze the united did that evolve as we just did that actually starts with her friends and
family there are regional search was at ninety one a man named will start adding those up on the hill in the in the thirties is selling a stone and her sister who is who isn't they contain seventy three or seventy five mrs i was involved in it
it was a lot of that oh you got it so it's fat as a beer stop on an old wagon rode but the original golden rule has grown into a full service restaurant today the main item here in boston has been steadily ever since then india at yet his relationship with a so called small fries cut daily
they're afraid that that's pretty much the main items that was willfully in turkey also the players but the point is by james b he's been on this beat small to have
been finishing up on the barbecue pit which is over charcoal small critiques the area more secure in the end an incomplete fabric of donald trump we are about for five different sources of course there's the original song and what everybody really likes that the salsa will also have the sweet sauce which is a glazed windows on the chicken and that's that's cheap and then when we are when we went down south all gone and the faded cities people in an area like the marsh so we haven't won and that's a minute we also offer michael zimmerman might matzo days michael's they kept that
we also have some idea the piece is by the police one of birmingham's best known holy smokes was started in nineteen
fifty three by johnny ray ray family has a franchise the name and there are several johnnie ray's restaurant but the oldest one is a thing this way was it about the barbecue place is first in town to give it helps give us about his name has been so successful the political journalist family in year of nineteen ninety six the year in nevada on a handshake and mike pence about two weeks later put limits on power in place of the films you were on a job like to let go with the customers and the new he would give it a break i think that was one of his still wasn't year because you
my name would you come from an adult ever by the abuse to some of the thousand years the first couple weeks it out there not voting most folks called johnson many pop and this restaurant is a third career free of auschwitz after the two years a people person this story came available and it was a challenge in like why you come out because it's there we feel like that when you serve the premier party was won multi city of the premier begins as will all start to cook so you're looking at them and they were being out for six years but i'm very conscious of what he has to do
what the people needs as it is termed says this poses holiday season comes monday tuesday for that question which i could go on all the punk us airways have nothing left over flamenco wails his sauce michael monday out there is has saucers may owe to see me like four to save an extra day makes a sauce maple butter because actually when you have barbecue first it taste cells and the concept of the sauce is what makes it really taste of the next a vociferous but this place has lots of great food well i think it says he's done well that sounds of them well i am a catfish amber civics been tremendously cheeseburgers and hamburgers we made those first day labor day with all the buses
leave to make a cheeseburger hamburger like some other locations and we bow is first at its head a daily and friday fun of me now there's one thing you might like to see that they don't make in front of you you have to go back in the kitchen the cvs that's where they make the delicious bananas chocolate lemon and coconut cream pies from recipes developed by johnnie ray's wife honey they weren't raising money we are raised week and i get a phone app and lots of the west is full on the weekend i give them out because of the sea to a drag race most listeners as a singer too when you're on the streets and say well was the place that these kind of online visit only promise that you're just never had it
ford says that said something that not enough to save face of this family occasions rain johnnie ray's family gearing everyone seems to really like johnny rate is kind of like a family gathering they treat your real good but we had some pluses like come everyday daily particular capabilities so it was something that sort of not really it's going on and we begin with what was known as the minds of educators
the story of ms my ribs barbecue just shows you what can happen when a convenience store starts serving great barbecue barbecue just takes over the whole thing and that's what this was at the edge and gets in the back and thus more marbled way open federer for things that they say that that's like this my roof opened on valentine's day and there's lots to love you got a fine collection it's an excellent so anyway yeah
i love working here otherwise they wouldn't have the customers they know it's not uncommon to step out of the hands of a list of people i can't say that was my haircut that come in once a way some of the beef pork ribs and sauce and sides are made fresh daily well i've always thought you know i'm the youngest of the and children ride on wei also forced suarez says they have always maintained that development have
they built elevated of wagner's relatively wonderfully smelled like a parent of a soft a hand in it that if this thing is that you have a garlic and i believe this decision of rome itself has a wonderful smell and just as they're here the bases lend you know and to read a matter of boston but there are about six that work and where rap on another when you rap on the morgue and then we don't have a hard time with the people the rams and the chicken and the soft power without that with the fugitive
in south america with the government for what it was like a small voice probably like this is the evidence of the lights off we have a red and white white south of them and now they would like a better life ms myers heads friendly folks in great when you're that we want to save some room for desert they got a pound cake that is out of this world the pancake is the real voice just better recipe help a mother had a
bakery is this also and one of the employees that work there have this recipe and it was just a great recipe and we continued to my good at paris' most lovable been in the family for many years and the pudding people cite you my that my that i've i know who writes what they can tell the difference even though it is a recipe you get like when it closed but alma was there for the big customers are fabulously didn't like better world like a sandwich of the outside world and then we all as family a lot of sun and long granddaughter and sister and the rest of the month and that title is no i've invited telling what it's like they're and it's just it's really fun to have a family business
or in my family as well barbecue is tucked away in the south like village shop and sometimes you don't know it's here you might not notice what you found if you want to come back again and again you have a wonderful neighborhoods behind us in a lot of businesses over the richest places and obviously the biggest obstacle here that everything's radio so you don't know we're here you know were hearing so overt way is my self and my partner just over one time is trying job with
each person your muscle dear ramona put together by little barbecue have the restaurant because blues music and lots of sports memorabilia and hundreds of pig figurines it started as fan of the zeta a way to lighten up a bland wallen here and then it's grown into what we call over a thousand pieces of billions we found early on that it held congress is trying to do senator wyden
we're great as we are the state of alabama all the pictures of people are probably people are worried now about the whole school somewhere and the state or from the state so it's a system dedicated it to the state sports heroes us whether you're interested in gear or stuffed figs there's lots to look at the history of this week prepare all of our sauces hallmarks our persons all of warsaw's we want from a listener as close to home as you can or different sources our main event increase awesome
carolina race where the southern spicy mustard that's what people are like in south carolina and georgia the traditional red like everyone everyone in houston we also have the white sauce scott one thing it's amazing they saw science really really popular now we have a brutally hot sauce world this show there's a job and he falls apart or so and so when people asked for a slice to me
arts and sciences the state calls it takes a lot of work it takes special people to do this it's falling one of our notes just like a pre age are getting a really want one who admits it's not easy it's not like a burger place we just like the grill up the batteries on their own the chicken place really have to really in every day you have to dedicate yourself doing the work that it takes to make it as they say if you can make it here you can make it anywhere near the barbecued chicken you can solve our human mind for a long time you can sell it pretty much any more
money for a man shh shh shh customers children who refer to this as the next big voice because although people still need so we're sort of beers and everybody will say to everybody but the big influences holy smokes look at that as well as place for going to visit is just a short drive north of birmingham but it is definitely worth the trip just take interstate sixty five exit two eighty seven follow highway thirty one forty one spring smoke see you down the top ten barbecue my father mother purpose of business in nineteen sixty seven it was called the topic and maintains that it thought that more
than that it's always been about that the great thing about art is sort of taqueria this is your budget we're in our third generation or five dollars billon jobs handled the large part of this are also on a third generation of the customers we have a lot of people who came here as children from melbourne after the sacred is being consistent with your roots to change anything says with again nineteen sixties that you came here twenty years ago and got a barbeque sandwich came back today to take of like when you get out here for the day and bob sides worked together delivering re when the bread company went out of business they both started chopping wood
and smoking me mr o'leary customers are canceling bringing people in that they've never been here before and they'll bring in the back and films that were always have to be hard to be done that was the governmental decree does good barbecue in a lot of work that the bill would reduce or two and the entire process is about well our actual cooking time in nineteen ninety five article and we don't need to think about we started fighting ring regulating by our consistent startup hot and violent and in the afternoon
slowdowns you never think of those ten biggest bill and the cost the cost of your little shoulders are moments are rather large so you had some parts of that you have a little hotter in the small lake always be people or women more it's mighty heart in the pitch room or they can cook up to eighty eight boston blades at a time but they'll make sure the sauce doesn't get too hot it needs this center for a couple of hours but he doesn't want to boil
it's busy and we sell it before they get home to the narrow margin people use it here they were double sided which i think is one of the keys to the sausage stand by seven a barbecue stand myself a lot of people eat the bargain without socks and the people that love the way that the smoke gives it that flavor so that to the two things will stand by them salesman and when you combine them the president has been we use all of the products
are made as to our specifications all male about a five part because we can get this you know in alabama can physically feel it there the risk we try to do with all of our business is much as possible for money or health service has always been a the purpose to pay those back a lot of our business from the north korean war naylor in there but there's a lot of the library this fall similar law that live around here that our customers for years for the last thirty years with and we're conservatively clothes were sixteen hour days are short they cast him
as just a lifetime of the dictatorship to find joy for just about wraps hard to work on some of the top barbecue restaurants in birmingham alabama i learned a lot about the fine southern tradition there are lots of great barbecue restaurants in the area can visit all in this time but maybe we'll get together to do this again sometime until then one thing's for sure the folks in and around birmingham are reluctant because they have a fine restaurant that serves other provisions end a serb militias barbecue cuts wright says last night the market
cut all that out and mike's it's all nighters and you know and the style barbecues always been such a politics whenever a politician will need to get elected on the other side of our politics religion are all those things bring that community and you could have different things about football and different kinds of religion and politics at the parking he seems to be the way to get people together how small the town and now that we're going to have big year and more than that i think is pretty much about the army or ideas week we have
on one story for your vote there are a lot of a lot of people have the products and they succeed and then there are people whose products are either so far or they're just not prepared for the business environment the secret to being a success in this business the highest quality sample anything even then the continent's violent name brands if you skimp on the quality of their ingredients is a very best ingredients and the very best way you know never serve in about anything he says north carolina barbeque here and now memphis
in our moment this is canada known for it they getting good pr working on the barbeque market you know from the time that they're certainly i think the quantity quality that we say is cheap if beak it's b
Holy Smoke Over Birmingham
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One of the most culturaly diverse foods in the United States is Barbecue. This program features chain-resturants, as well as locally owned business, in Alabama that put their own creative touch into the techniques and traditions of smoking meat.
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