PBS NewsHour; Wednesday, November 23, 2022, 3:00pm-4:00pm PST

JUDY: GOOD EVENING. I'M JUDY WOODRUFF. ON THE NEWSHOUR TONIGHT, ANOTHER MASS SHOOTING. SIX PEOPLE ARE KILLED AT A WALMART IN CHESAPEAKE VIRGINIA, IN THE LATEST EPISODE OF GUN VIOLENCE IN THE U.S. THEN, ONE-ON-ONE. WEEKS AFTER SURVIVING AN ASSASSINATION ATTEMPT, FORMER PAKISTANI PRIME MINISTER IMRAN KHAN DISCUSSES THE TENUOUS POLITICS IN HIS COUNTRY AND A POTENTIAL RETURN TO POWER. AND THE TIPPING POINT. METHANE GAS EMISSIONS FROM FOSSIL FUEL EXTRACTION SEVERELY EXACERBATE THE ALREADY DIRE CLIMATE CRISIS. >> WE ARE HARMING THE ENTIRE PLANET AND EVERY PERSON AND EVERY LIVING THING ON IT BY WHAT WE'RE DOING HERE IN TEXAS. AND WE CALL THIS A CLIMATE BOMB. ALL THAT AND MORE ON TONIGHT'S JUDY: ALL THAT AND MORE ON

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WILLIAM: JUST AFTER 10:00 P.M. LAST NIGHT, AT THIS WALMART IN VIRGINIA'S TIDEWATER AREA, A STORE EMPLOYEE NAMED ANDRE BING OPENED FIRE, KILLING AT LEAST SIX, AND THEN TAKING HIS OWN LIFE. GOVERNOR GLENN YOUNGKIN SPOKE THIS MORNING. >> OUR HEARTS ARE JUST COMPLETELY BROKEN THIS MORNING YET AGAIN IN THE COMMONWEALTH OF VIRGINIA. WILLIAM: ONE EMPLOYEE RECOUNTED BEING IN THE BREAK ROOM WHEN THE GUNMAN, WHO WAS A MANAGER AT THE CHESAPEAKE STORE, ENTERED AND STARTED FIRING. >> I LOOKED UP AND MY MANAGER TURNED AROUND AND HE JUST OPENED FIRE ON EVERYBODY IN THE BREAK ROOM. AND IT IS BY THE GRACE OF GOD THAT A BULLET MISSED ME. I'M NOT GOING TO LIE. I LITERALLY LOOKED AT HIM. I SAW THE SMOKE LEAVING THE GUN, AND I LITERALLY WATCHED BODIES DROP. WILLIAM: POLICE FOUND THE SHOOTER AD WHEN THEY ARRIVED. HE HAD WORD AT WALMART FOR OVER A DECADE, AND HIS MOTIVE REMAINS UNKNOWN. >> THE CHESAPEAKE POLICE SWAT TEAM EXECUTED A SEARCH WARRANT AT THE SUSPECT'S RESIDENCE. THERE'S NO RISK TO THE PUBLIC AT THIS TIME. WILLIAM: THIS TRAGEDY MARKS THE

SEVENTH MASS SHOOTING IN THE PAST SEVEN DAYS IN AMERICA. THE GUN VIOLENCE ARCHIVE, WHICH TRACKS THESE TRAGEDIES, CLASSIFIES A MASS SHOOTING AS AT LEAST FOUR PEOPLE BEING INJURED OR KILLED. THEY HAVE DOCUMENTED MORE THAN 600 OF THESE ATTACKS SO FAR THIS YEAR. VIRGINIA HAS SEEN ITS SHARE OF -- IT'S SHARE THIS MONTH AFTER A UNIVERSITY OF VIRGINIA STUDENT SHOT AND KILLED THREE FOOTBALL PLAYERS IN CHARLOTTESVILLE LESS THAN TWO WEEKS AGO. THE WALMART KILLING DEEPENED THIS FRESH WOUND FOR MANY. >> WE HAVE HAD TWO HORRIFIC ACTS OF VIOLENCE IN THE COMMONWEALTH OF VIRGINIA IN TWO WEEKS AND THAT ABSOLUTELY BRINGS WITH IT A SENSE OF ANGER, A SENSE OF FEAR, A SENSE OF DEEP, DEEP GRIEF. WILLIAM: IN A STATEMENT, PRESIDENT BIDEN ALSO EXPRESSED HIS GRIEF OVER THE TRAGEDIES, CALLING THE CHESAPEAKE ATTACK A

HORRIFIC AND SENSELESS ACT OF VIOLENCE. THE PRESIDENT AGAIN PUSHED FOR GREATER ACTION ON GUN CONTROL MEASURES. LATE TODAY, THE POLICE RELEASED THE NAMES OF FIVE OF THE VICTIMS. LORENZO GAMBLE, BRIAN PENDLETON, KELLIE PYLE, RANDALL BLEVINS, AND TYNEKA JOHNSON. THE SIXTH VICTIM IS A MINOR, HIS NAME WAS WITHHELD. THIS KILLING COMES WHILE MANY ARE STILL PROCESSING THE LOSS OF LIFE IN THE MASS SHOOTING THIS WEEKEND IN COLORADO SPRINGS WHERE A GUNMAN KILLED FIVE AT AN LGBTQ NIGHTCLUB. YET ANOTHER OF THE GUN TRAGEDIES IN AMERICA THAT FAR EXCEED ANY OTHER DEVELOPED NATION. FOR THE PBS NEWSHOUR, I'M WILLIAM BRANGHAM. JUDY: FOR SOME REACTION TO THIS SHOOTING AND OTHERS IN THE LAST TWO WEEKS, I SPOKE EARLIER TODAY WITH VIRGINIA STATE SENATOR LOUISE LUCAS, A DEMOCRAT WHOSE DISTRICT INCLUDES THE AREA WHERE TODAY'S SHOOTING HAPPENED. SENATOR LOUISEUCAS, THANK YOU SO MUCH FOR JOINING US.

FIRST OF ALL, OUR CONDOLENCES TO YOUR COMMUNITY TO BE GOING THROUGH THIS, YET ANOTHER SHOOTING IN VIRGINIA. HAVE YOU LEARNED ANYTHING NEW IN THE LAST FEW HOURS ABOUT WHAT HAPPENED ABOUT THE MOTIVE OF THE SHOOTER, THE WEAPON AND SO FORTH? SEN. LUCAS: NOTHING YET, JUDY. THE ONLY THING WE KNOW IS THAT THE INVESTIGATION IS ONGOING, AND THAT THE LOCAL LAW ENFORCEMENT OFFICERS ARE GATHERING INFORMATION AS BEST THEY CAN, TRYING TO PUT IT ALL TOGETHER. A MEETING WITH THE FAMILY TO TRY AND PROVIDE COUNSELING AND WHATEVER OTHER COMFORT SERVICES THEY CAN FOR THEM TO TRY TO GET THEM THROUGH THIS. I MEAN, JUST IMAGINE IF YOU WILL, HOW THESE FAMILIES ARE FEELING ON TODAY ON THE DAY BEFORE THANKSGIVING. AND TOMORROW THEY'RE GONNA HAVE EMPTY SEATS TO THE TABLE AT A TIME WHEN THEY SHOULD BE HUGGING THEIR LOVED ONES AND GIVING THANKS FOR ALL THAT THAT WE HAVE TOGETHER. I CAN'T TELL YOU JUST HOW UPSET I HAVE BEEN ABOUT THIS. BUT THE THING THAT GRIEVES ME AS MUCH IS A FACT THAT WE HAVE

WITHIN OUR POWER TO ENACT SOME COMMON SENSE GUN PREVENTION MEASURES AND HAVE FAILED TO DO IT. AND I THINK THAT IS THE THING THAT WE NEED THE MOST. THINK ABOUT IT, PRAY ABOUT, AND TRY TO ENERGIZE A CRITICAL MASS OF PEOPLE TO CONTACT THEIR LEGISLATORS ABOUT. AND THAT IS TO STOP THIS GUN VIOLENCE. THE ONLY WAY THAT CAN HAPPEN IS THROUGH LEGISLATIVE ACTION. AND IT NEEDS TO TAKE PLACE AND IT NEEDS TO TAKE PLACE NOW. HOW MANY MORE PEOPLE HAVE TO DIE BEFORE LEGISLATIVE BODIES AROUND THIS COUNTRY UNDERSTAND THAT WE ARE THE ONES WHO CAN CONTROL THESE GUNS AND HAVE PEOPLE HAVE SUCH READY ACCESS TO THEM. JUDY: AND I DO WANT TO ASK YOU ABOUT THAT. BECAUSE WE KNOW JUST A COUPLE OF YEARS AGO, VIRGINIA PASSED A NUMBER OF GUN CONTROL MEASURES INCLUDING STRICTER BACKGROUND CHECKS. WE JUST LOOKED AT THE LIST. SO WHADOES THAT SAY TO YOU THAT YOU DO HAVE LAWS ON THE BOOKS IN VIRGINIA? IN FACT, I SAW THAT THE GROUP

EVERY TOWN FOR GUN SAFETY RATES, -- RATES VIRGINIA, I BELIEVE IT'S 14TH IN THE COUNTRY BEST IN TERMS OF ITS GUN, GUN CONTROL MEASURES. SEN. LUCAS: OBVIOUSLY WE HAVE NOT DONE A GOOD ENOUGH JOB OF TRYING TO KEEP GUNS OUT OF THE HANDS OF PEOPLE WHO SHOULD NOT HAVE THEM. AND I'M NOT JUST TALKING ABOUT PEOPLE WHO HAVE MENTAL HEALTH ISSUES, BECAUSE I KNOW THAT'S ONE OF THE FIRST THINGS THAT PEOPLE WILL HARP ON, BUT WE NEED TO DO A BETTER JOB OF MAKING SUREHAT PEOPLE DON'T HAVE SUCH EASILY -- EASY ACCESS TO GUNS. THAT'S THE PROBLEM. I MEAN, THERE'S JUST TOO MANY GUNS IN THE HANDS OF PEOPLE WHO SHOULD NOT HAVE THEM. JUDY: COULD I JUST ASK WHAT SPECIFIC LAW WOULD YOU LIKE TO SEE ON THE BOOKS EITHER AT THE STATE OR THE FEDERAL LEVEL THAT YOU THINK MIGHT HAVE PREVENTED WHAT HAPPENED? NOT JUST IN CHESAPEAKE, BUT AT THE UNIVERSITY OF VIRGINIA THE OTHER DAY? SEN. LUCAS: WELL, YOU KNOW WHAT, PRESIDENT BIDEN IS INTRODUCED -- HAS INTRODUCED LEGISLATION. THE THING IS IT JUST DOES NOT GO

FAR ENOUGH BECAUSE HE DOES NOT HA THE WILL OR THE BACKBONE OF THE MEMBERS OF CONGRESS TO MAKE IT GO TO THE EXTENT IT NEEDS TO GO TO TO MAKE SUREE GET THESE GUNS OUT OF THE HANDS OF PEOPLE WHO SHOULD NOT HAVE THEM. THERE ARE MEASURES ON THE BOOKS BUT MOST OF THEM DO NOT GO FAR ENOUGH. AND I'M SAYING THAT TWO MEMBERS OF CONGRESS AND MEMBERS OF LEGISLATIVE BODIES AROUND THIS COUNTRY, COME TO THE UNDERSTANDING THAT WE HAVE THE CONTROLS OVER HOW THIS LEGISLATION GETS INTRODUCED AND PASSED. WE CAN STOP THIS SENSELESS GUN VIOLENCE BY INTRODUCING LEGISLATION THAT LIMITS THE NUMBER OF HANDGUNS THAT PEOPLE HAVE, AND ESPECIALLY THOSE PEOPLE WHO SHOULD NOT HAVE THEM IN THE FIRST PLACE. JUDY: AND WHEN YOU SAY, MEMBERS OF EITHER A STATE LEGISLATURE OR OF THE CONGRESS, WHO WERE YOU SPEAKING ABOUT IN PARTICULAR? ARE YOU POINTING A FINGER AT ONE POLITICAL PARTY OR ANOTHER I MEAN, WHO IS WHOS RESPONSIBLE HERE? SEN. LUCAS: I'M TRYING NOT TO POINT FINGERS BECAUSE I'M TRYING NOT TO MAKE THIS POLITICAL. BUT IF YOU LOOK AT THE GUN

CONTROL, OR GUN PREVENTION MEASURES THAT WERE INTRODUCED IN THE LEGISLATURE, ALL YOU GOTTA DO IS GO DOWN THAT LIST AND YOU SEE WHO VOTED AYE AND WHO VOTED NAY. AND SO WITHOUT CALLING NAMES I JUST WANT TO SAY I AND SOME MEMBERS OF OUR CAUCUS INTRODUCED A PACKAGE OF GUN PREVENTION MEASURES TO INCLUDE UNIVERSAL BACKGROUND CHECKS, AND BUT I THINK THEY JUST DON'T GO FAR ENOUGH. WE NEED TO BEAT THEM UP. IT'S NOT WORKING. WHAT WE HAVE DONE IS NOT WORKING SO WE NEED TO DO MORE. JUDY: DO YOU THINK THE PUBLIC IS BEHIND YOU, MOST VIRGINIANS ARE BEHIND YOU ON WANTING TO GET THESE LAWS CHANGED? SEN. LUCAS: I ABSOLUTELY THINK THEY ARE. I THINK EVERYBODY UNDERSTANDS THAT A PERSON WITH A GUN THAT SHOULD NOT HAVE ONE DOES NOT KNOW -- DOES NOT CARE, THE COMMUNITY THAT THEY GO INTO. SO IF YOU THINK YOUR SCHOOL IS EXEMPT, OR YOUR CHURCH OR YOUR SYNAGOGUE, OR YOUR GROCERY STORE, OR YOUR WALMART IS EXEMPT THEN THINK AGAIN.

BECAUSE THESE THINGS ARE HAPPENING EVERY DAY ALL ACROSS THE COUNTRY, AND WHO KNOWS WHAT COMMUNITY IS GOING TO BE HITTING -- HIT? YES, I THINK THE VAST MAJORITY OF PEOPLE ARE BEHIND US. I JUST HOPE THAT THERE'S A CRITICAL MASS WHO WILL TALK TO THE MEMBERS OF THE LEGISLATIVE BODIES, WHO WILL TALK TO WHOMEVER IS IN A POSITION OF AUTHORITY TO HELP BRING ABOUT THESE MEASURES TO MAKE SURE THAT WE CAN STOP THIS SENSELESS MASS MURDERS. JUDY: AS WE SAID AT THE OUTSET, OUR CONDOLENCES ARE WITH YOU, WITH YOUR COMMUNITY, AS YOU GO THROUGH YET ANOTHER TRAGIC SHOOTING. STATE SENATOR LOUISE LUCAS IN VIRGINIA, THANK YOU VERY MUCH. JUDY:HANK YOU SO MUCH FOR HAVING ME ON. ♪ JUDY: IN THE DAY'S OTHER NEWS, THE COLORADO SPRINGS SHOOTING SUSPECT HAD A FIRST COURT

APPEARANCE IN THE KILLING OF 5 PEOPLE AT A GAY NIGHTCLUB. DURING THE CONFERENCE CALL, ANDERSON LEE ALDRICH WAS SLUMPED IN A WHEELCHAIR BEHIND DEFENSE LAWYERS. POLICE SAY ALDRICH WAS BEATEN BY NIGHTCLUB PATRONS DURING THE ATTACK. THE CHARGES COULD INCLUDE MURDER AND HATE CRIMES. THE U.S. JUSTICE DEPARTMENT REPORTEDLY WANTS TO INTERVIEW FORMER VICE PRESIDENT PENCE IN ITS JANUARY 6TH INVESTIGATION. THE NEW YORK TIMES AND OTHERS SAY THE FOCUS IS ON THEN-PRESIDENT TRUMP'S EFFORTS TO OVERTURN THE 2020 ELECTION RESULTS. MR. PENCE IS SAID TO BE OPEN TO CONSIDERING THE REQUEST. IN UKRAINE, A NEW ONSLAUGHT OF RUSSIAN MISSILES KNOCKED OUT POWER TO MOST OF THE COUNTRY TODAY AND CLAIMED MORE LIVES. THE AIR STRIKES BLASTED UKRAINE'S CAPITAL, KYIV, KILLING AT LEAST 3 PEOPLE. IN THE SOUTH, A MISSILE STRUCK A HOSPITAL MATERNITY WARD AND BROUGHT MORE TRAGEDY. >> A DOCTOR WAS PULLED OUT FROM UNDER THE RUBBLE. AND WITH THE HELP OF A LADDER, A

NEW MOTHER WAS EVACUATED FROM THE SECOND FLOOR. UNFORTUNATELY, HER NEWBORN DIED, WHO WAS JUST TWO DAYS OLD. JUDY: MEANWHILE, THE U.S. AUTHORIZED ANOTHER $400 MILLION IN MILITARY AID FOR UKRAINE FOR A TOTAL OF $19 BILLION SO FAR. BOMBS EXPLODED TODAY NEAR 2 BUS STOPS IN JERUSALEM KILLING ONE PERSON AND WOUNDING AT LEAST 18. THE ATTACKS CAME AT THE HEIGHT OF RUSH HOUR. ISRAELI POLICE BLAMED PALESTINIAN MILITANTS, AND OFFICIALS CLOSED 2 WEST BANK CROSSINGS. LATER, THE ISRAELIS SAID TROOPS KILLED TWO PALESTINIANS IN AN OVERNIGHT CLASH. IN INDONESIA, RESCUERS ARE STILL SEARCHING FOR SURVIVORS OF MONDAY'S EARTHQUAKE THAT KILLED AT LEAST 271 PEOPLE. FIRE DEPARTMENT VIDEO DID SHOW ONE MOMENT OF HOPE TODAY A 6-YEAR-OLD BOY LIFTED TO SAFETY AFTER BEING TRAPPED FOR THREE DAYS. HE WAS FOUND IN THE RUBBLE OF HIS HOME. POLICE IN CENTRAL CHINA BEAT WORKERS TODAY AS THEY PROTESTED OVER PAY AND ANTI-COVID MEASURES

OUTSIDE THE WORLD'S LARGEST APPLE I-PHONE FACTORY. WITNESSES POSTED CELL PHONE VIDEO OF THE CONFRONTATION. THE SOMETIMES SHAKY FOOTAGE SHOWED THOUSANDS OF PROTESTERS AT THE FACTORY. POLICE IN HAS MEANT -- IN HAZ-MAT SUITS COULD BE SEEN ATTACKING AND HITTING THEM WITH BATONS. THE UNITED KINGDOM'S SUPREME COURT HAS RULED THAT SCOTLAN MAY NOT HOLD AN INDEPENDENCE VOTE WITHOUT THE BRITISH GOVERNMENT'S APPROVAL. THE SEMI-AUTONOMOUS SCOTTISH GOVERNMENT HAD WANTED A REFERENDUM NEXT OCTOBER. SCOTLAND'S FIRST MINISTER NICOLA STURGEON SAID TODAY'S RULING IS NOT THE END OF IT. >> WE MUST AND WE WILL FIND ANOTHER DEMOCRATIC, LAWFUL, AND CONSTITUTIONAL MEANS BY WHICH THE SCOTTISH PEOPLE CAN EXPRESS THEIR WILL. IN MY VIEW THAT CAN ONLY BE AN ELECTION, THE NEXT NATIONAL ELECTION SCHEDULED FOR SCOTLAND IS OF COURSE THE U.K. GENERAL ELECTION.

JUDY: SCOTTISH VOTERS REJECTED INDEPENDENCE IN A 2014 REFERENDUM. BRITAIN'S RULING CONSERVATIVE PARTY HAS REFUSED TO APPROVE A NEW VOTE. BACK IN THIS COUNTRY, THE GEORGIA SUPREME COURT TODAY REINSTATED A STATE BAN ON ABORTIONS AFTER ABOUT 6 WEEKS OF PREGNANCY. IT WILL STAY IN PLACE WHILE THE COURT CONSIDERS RULING ON THE MERITS OF THE LAW. A LOWER COURT HAD OVERTURNED THE BAN. THE GEORGIA COURT ALSO AGREED TODAY TO ALLOW EARLY VOTING THIS SATURDAY IN THE U.S. SENATE RUNOFF. THE CONTEST FEATURES INCUMBENT DEMOCRATIC SENATOR RAPHAEL WARNOCK AGAINST REPUBLICAN HERSCHEL WALKER, A FORMER COLLEGE FOOTBALL AND NFL STAR. REPUBLICANS HAVE SURED ANOTHER CALIFORNIA SEAT IN THE NEXT U.S. KEVIN KILEY WAS DECLARED THE WINNER IN HIS RACE LAST NIGHT. THAT GIVES THE GOP 220 SEATS IN THE HOUSE, TWO MORE THAN A MAJORITY, WITH THREE RACES YET TO BE CALLED. AND ON WALL STREET, STOCKS

ADVANCED AS THE FEDERAL RESERVE SIGNALED IT MIGHT SCALE BACK FUTURE INTEREST RATE HIKES. THE DOW JONES INDUSTRIAL AVERAGE GAINED 96 POINTS TO CLOSE AT 34,196. THE NASDAQ ROSE NEARLY 111 POINTS, 1%. THE S&P 500 ADDED 23 POINTS. STILL TO COME ON THE NEWSHOUR, CONGRESS PASSES A LAW BANNING NON-DISCLOSURE AGREEMENTS IN SEXUAL HARASSMENT CASES . TAIWAN'S DEPUTY FOREIGN MINISTER DISCUSSES HIS COUNTRY'S INCREASINGLY FRAUGHT RELATIONS WITH CHINA. A TRAINING PROGRAM STARTED IN NEW MEXICO HELPS DOCTORS AROUND THE WORLD. PLUS MUCH MORE. >> THIS IS THE PBS NEWSHOUR FROM WETA STUDIOS IN WASHINGTON AND IN THE WEST FROM THE WALTER CRONKITE SCHOOL OF JOURNALISM AT ARIZONA STATE UNIVERSITY. JUDY: THREE WEEKS AGO, PAKISTAN'S FORMER PRIME MINISTER IMRAN KHAN SURVIVED AN ASSASINATION ATTEMPT, THOUGH HE WAS WOUNDED IN THE LEG.

KHAN WAS OUSTED FROM OFFICE IN APRIL OF THIS YEAR AFTER THREE AND A HALF YEARS IN OFFICE. EVER SINCE, HIS PTI POPULIST POLICAL PARTY HAS MADE SIGNIFICANT GAINS IN REGIONAL ELECTIONS, AND HE DRAWS MASSIVE CROWDS TO HIS RALLIES WHERE HE DEMANDS EARLY ELECTIONS, CALLS OUT CORRUPTION AND POINTS FINGERS AT THE POWERFUL PAKISTANI MILITARY FOR HIS REMOVAL. HE SPOKE WITH AMNA NAWAZ THIS MORNING, AHEAD OF ANOTHER MASSIVE MARCH TO ISLAMABAD ON SATURDAY. SHE ASKED HIM HOW HE IS DOING SINCE THE ATTACK. >> WELL, I WAS VERY LUCKY. I HAD THREE BULLETS ON MY RIGHT LEG AND SOME SHRAPNEL ON MY LEFT. SO THE THE TWO OF THE FLESH WOUNDS ARE HEALING WELL. BUT THE BONE WHERE MY BONE GOT CRACKED BY THE THIRD BULLET, THAT'S USING ME A BIT OF A DISCOMFORT. BUT, YOU KNOW, I EXPECT IN THE

NEXT TWO OR THREE WEEKS, I SHOULD BE WALKING, PUTTING WEIGHT ON MY LEG. AMNA: WE SHOULD MENTION THE THE PROTEST MARCH THAT YOU'VE BEEN LEADING, WHICH SHOULD END UP AT THE CAPITOL AT YOUR DIRECTION, IS TO CALL FOR EARLY ELECTIONS, WHICH YOU'VE BEEN CALLING FOR SINCE YOU WERE OUSTED IN A NO CONFIDENCE VOTE BY PARLIAMENT BACK IN APRIL. THERE ARE THOSE THAT ARGUE THAT YOUR PROTESTS AND YOUR DISRUPTIONS, WHICH HAVE GONE ON SINCE YOU WERE OUSTED, ACTUALLY DISRUPT THE POLITICAL AND ECONOMIC STABILITY OF THE COUNTRY. THERE ARE SCHEDULED TO BE ELECTIONS BY NEXT SUMMER, I BELIEVE. SO WHY NOT WAIT UNTIL THEN AND RUN? MR. KHAN: FIRST OF ALL, NONE OF MY ACTIVITIES HAVE BEEN DISRUPTIVE. WE HAVE PUBLIC RALLIES. PEOPLE COME TO THE RALLIES. WHAT IS OUR DEMOCRATIC AND CONSTITUTIONAL RIGHT? WE TALK ABOUT THE INJUSTICE THAT IS TAKING PLACE IN THIS COUNTRY WHERE THESE CABAL OF CROOKS HAVE HAVE BEEN FOISED ON US. AND SECONDLY, THE ECONOMY HAS GONE TO THE GROUND.

FINANCIAL MARKETS OUTSIDE PAKISTAN AND WITHIN THE COUNTRY HAVE LOST CONFIDENCE IN THIS GOVERNMENT. AND ALL THE ECONOMIC INDICATORS ARE GOING DOWN. SO IF THEY DON'T HOLD ELECTIONS IMMEDIATELY, IT DOESN'T BOTHER MY PARTY BECAUSE WE ARE GAINING ALL THE TIME. BUT OUR WORRY IS THAT THEY WILL LEAVE THE COUNTRY AND IS IN A -- LEAVE THE COUNTRY IN A STATE WHERE IT WILL BE BEYOND ANYONE'S CONTROL. AMNA: ON THIS MARCH, YOU HAVE MOBILIZED THOUSANDS AND THOUSANDS OF PEOPLE TO HEAD TOWARDS THE CAPITAL CITY. HOW WORRIED ARE YOU ABOUT THE POSSIBILITY OF VIOLENCE ONCE THEY GET TO THE CAPITAL CITY? AND WHAT CAN YOU DO TO STOP IT IF SO? MR. KHAN: AMNA, I HAVE DONE ALMOST 60 TO 65 RALLIES SINCE IN THE LAST SEVEN MONTHS SINCE I'VE BEEN OUT OF POWER. NEVER HAS ANY OF MY RALLIES BEEN VIOLENT. THE ONLY TIME THERE WAS DISRUPTION WAS WHEN I WAS WHEN I -- WHEN THE ASSASSINATION ATTEMPT TOOK PLACE.

SATURDAY, WHEN WE GO TO PINDI, ACTUALLY, RATHER THAN ISLAMABAD, IT WILL BE A COMPLETELY PEACEFUL PROTEST. THE REASON WHY MY STRENGTH HAS GROWN IN PAKISTAN, WHY THE PARTY HAS GOT BIGGER WITH TIME, IS BECAUSE THE GOVERNMENT HAS FLOPPED. NOW, IF IT GOES THE WHOLE WAY FINE, WE WILL WAIT. MY ONLY CONCERN IS THAT, YOU KNOW, THE WAY THINGS ARE GOING, WE COULD BE HEADING TOWARD CHAOS. ECONOMIC CHAOS. [22.1S] -- ECONOMIC CHAOS. AMNA: BUT THE EXPERTS WHO LOOK MORE BROADLY SAY THAT THE COUNTRY'S ECONOMIC DYSFUNCTION IS NOT JUST ABOUT ANY ONE GOVERNMENT, IT IS SYSTEMIC. YOU WERE IN POWER FOR THREE AND A HALF YEARS. WHAT D YOU DO TO ADDRESS THOSE PROBLEMS WHILE YOU WERE IN OFFICE? MR. KHAN: THE TWO PARTIES HAVE BEEN IN POWER IN PAKISTAN FOR 30 YEARS. AND 30 YEARS THE MILITARY GOVERNMENTS HAVE BEEN IN POWER, -- IN POWER. MY PARTY CAME, YOU KNOW,E ONLY

HAD THREE AND A HALF YEARS IN GOVERNMENT. WE BROKE ALL RECORDS OF EXPORTS IN PAKISTAN, AND OUR TAX COLLECTION WAS THE HIGHEST IN OUR HISTORY. SO WE WERE HEADING IN THE RIGHT DIRECTION. AMNA: YOU HAVE REPEATEDLY ACCUSED THE UNITED STATES OF CONSPIRING TO REMOVE YOU FROM OFFICE. YOU ALSO SAID AMERICA TREA PAKISTAN "LIKE A SLAVE." BUT THEN A FEW DAYS AGO, IN A RECENT INTERVIEW WITH THE FINANCIAL TIMES, YOU SAID ALL OF THAT IS "OVER, IT'S BEHIND ME." YOU INDICATED YOU WOULD LIKE TO HAVE A GOOD RELATIONSHIP WITH THE UNITED STATES. SO WHY THE U-TURN? MR. KHAN: FIRSTLY, I MEAN, IT IS JUST A FACT THAT THE PAKISTAN-U.S. RELATIONSHIP HAS BEEN LOPSIDED. IT IS NOT, FOR INSTANCE, THE U.S.-INDIA RELATIONSHIP, WHICH I CALL A VERY CIVILIZED RELATIONSHIP, A DIGNIFIED RELATIONSHIP. PAKISTAN, YOU KNOW, WE HAVE BEEN LL, THE WAR ON TERROR, WE WERE LIKE A HIRED GUN. I THINK IT IS A VERY UNDIGNIFIED

RELATIONSHIP. AMNA: YOU BELIEVE YOU COULD HAVE A GOOD WORKING RELATIONSHIP WITH THE UNITED STATES IF YOU WERE TO WIN OFFICE? MR. KHAN: THENITED STATES IS A DEMOCRACY. DECRACIES ACCEPT CRITICISM. DEMOCRACIES ACCEPT OTHER PEOPLE'S POINT OF VIEW. MASTER SLAVES DON'T. PAKISTAN'S RELATIONSHIP WITH THE U.S. IS VERY IMPORTANT FOR US. SO JUST BECAUSE YOU KNOW THE REGIME CHANGE, IT SHOULDN'T MEAN THAT I SHOULD HAVE NOT IN FUTURE RELATIONSHIP WITH THE U.S. AND I HAVE MY RIGHT TO CRITICIZE AMNA: WHAT ABOUT IN NEIGHBORING AFGHANISTAN WHEN THE TALIBAN RECLAIMED POWER LAST YEAR, YOU SEEM TO WELCOME THEM BACK INTO POWER. THEY HAVE DRAMATICALLY CURTAILED RIGHTS FOR WOMEN. TODAY MARKS 429 DAYS SINCE TEENAGE GIRLS WERE BANNED FROM ENTERING CLASSROOMS. WERE YOU WRONG TO SUPPORT THEIR RETURN TO POWER? MR. KHAN: WHAT HAPPENS IN AFGHANISTAN AFFECTS PAKISTAN. PAKISTAN NEEDS PEACE TO DEVELOP

ITS ECONOMY. IF THERE'S PEACE IN AFGHANISTAN, THEN PAKTAN'S FUTURE OF CONNECTING OURSELVES ECONOMICALLY TO CENTRAL ASIA, IT CAN ONLY HAPPEN IF THERE IS PEACE IN AFGHANISTAN. AMNA: BUT PEACE AT WHAT COST? MR. KHAN: PEOPLE IN AFGHANISTAN HAVE SUFFERED. SO ALL OUR INTEREST IS PEACE. WHICHEVER GOVERNMENT COMES IN, FOR THE FIRST TIME THERE IS PEACE IN AFGHANISTAN. ABOUT HUMAN RIGHTS, WHAT IS THE WORLD GOING TO DO? AM I JUSTIFYING IT? ALL I AM SAYING IS WHAT SHOULD WE DO ABOUT IT? ARE WE GOING TO INVADE AFGHANISTAN AGAIN TO LIBERATE THE WOMEN? WHAT ARE WE GOING TO DO? THE BEST WAY IS TO ENGAGE WITH THEM, BRING THEM IN THE MAINSTREAM, D THEN PUT PRESSURE ON THEM AND HOPE THAT THE PEOPLE OF AFGHANISTAN, AND ESPECIALLY THE WOMEN OF AFGHANISTAN, ARE STRONG ENOUGH TO ASSERT THEIR RIGHTS. GIVE THEM TIME. AMNA: IN THE LAST YEAR PLUS, HAVE YOU ENCOURAGED THOSE LEADERS TO LET GIRLS BACK INTO SCHOOL?

MR. KHAN: NO. THERE IS NO COMMUNICATION. SO, I MEAN, MADE THIS COMMUNICATION WE WOULD TALK ABOUT GIRLS EDUCATION AND SO ON. AMNA: BUT DO YOU BELIEVE THAT THEY SHOULD LET GIRLS BACK INTO SCHOOL? YOU HAVE A PLATFORM HERE. IF YOU WERE TO DELIVER A MESSAGE TO THEM NOW, WHAT WOULD YOU SAY? MR. KHAN: LOOK, OF COURSE. IN PAKISTAN IN KP, WHICH IS THE BORDERING OF A PROVINCE TO AFGHANISTAN. WE GIVE SPECIAL STIPENDS TO PARENTS WHO SEND THE GIRLS FOR EDUCATION. WE BELIEVE THAT IT'S WOMEN EDUCATION THAT ACTUALLY BUILDS SOCIETIES. AMNA: THAT IS THE FORMER PRIME MINISTER OF PAKISTAN, IMRAN KHAN, JOINING US TODAY. THANK YOU FOR YOUR TIME. MR. KHAN: THANK YOU. ♪ JUDY: A PIECE OF LEGISLATION LIMITING THE ENFORCEMENT OF NON-DISCLOSURE AGREEMENTS IN SEXUAL HARASSMENT DISPUTES IS HEADED TO PRESIDENT BIDEN'S DESK FOR HIS SIGNATURE AFTER THE

HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES PASSED THE LEGISLATION IN A BIPARTISAN VOTE. LISA DESJARDINS HAS OUR REPORT ON THE SPEAK OUT ACT AND WHO IT WILL IMPACT MOST. LISA: ROUGHLY ONE THIRD OF AMERICAN WORKERS ARE BOUND BY SOME FORM OF A NONDISCLOSURE AGREEMENT OR NDA, PREVENTING WHAT THEY CAN SAY ABOUT THEIR WORK EXPERIENCE. THE SPEAK OUT ACT, ABOUT TO BECOME LAW, WOULD MEAN THAT NDA IS SIGNED WHEN EMPLOYEES TAKE THEIR JOB COULD NO LONGER STOP THEM FROM SPEAKING OUT ABOUT SEXUAL HARASSMENT OR ABUSE. IT'S A SYSTEMIC CHANGE COMING DIRECTLY FROM THE #METOO MOVEMENT, AND FROM THIS WOMAN, CO-FOUNDER OF LIFT OUR VOICES, A NONPROFIT DEDICATED TO ENDING WORKPLACE RULES THAT FAVOR HARASSERS AND ABUSERS. THANK YOU FOR JOINING ME HELP US UNDERSTAND HOW MANY WORKERS WITH THE SPEAK OUT ACT AFFECT AND ROUGHLY HOW? JULIE: WE DON'T KNOW. BECAUSE WE DON'T KNOW HOW MANY WORKERS ARE BOUND BY THESE KINDS OF NDA'S, PRIMARILY BECAUSE THEY ARE SECRETIVE.

YOU ARE NOT ALLOWED TO SAY THAT YOU HAVE AN NDA. SO A LOT OF WORKERS ARE NOT EVEN ALLOWED TO TELL YOU THAT THEY HAVE ULTIMATELY WHAT IT'S GOING ONE. TO DO IS HELP MILLIONS AND MILLIONS OF WORKERS NOT JUST TALK ABOUT THEIR OWN EXPERIENCES, BUT ALSO TALK ABOUT EXPERIENCES THAT THEY MAY HAVE WITNESSED. THERE ARE PLENTY OF PEOPLE WHO'VE BEEN WITNESSES TO HORRIBLE INSTANCES OF SEXUAL HARASSMENT, SEXUAL ASSAULT, WHO SIMPLY ARE NOT ABLE RIGHT NOW TO EVEN SHARE WITH YOUR -- THEIR COLLEAGUES OR EVEN WITH A SURVIVOR WHAT THEY SEE AND WHAT THEY KNEW -- NO IN ORDER TO STOP THE MAJORITY EITHER AND THIS BILL WILL ENSURE THAT THOSE PEOPLE WILL CONTINUE TO SPEAK OUT ABOUT THAT. LISA: THIS IS NOT RETROACTIVE, AND THAT MEANS THAT FOR EXAMPLE, YOU ARE NOT GOING TO BE ABLE TO BECAUSE OF THIS LAW. SPEAK ABOUT WHAT YOU EXPERIENCED AT FOX NEWS BECAUSE OF THE NDA YOU SIGNED THERE AND THE SAME FOR YOUR CO-FOUNDER, GRETCHEN CARLSON. BUT TO THE DEGREE THAT YOU CAN, CAN YOU HELP US WITH WHAT YOUR EXPERIENCE IS ABOUT HOW THESE NDA'S WORK? JULIE: I WAS BOUND BY TWO NDA'S IN MY LIFE.

ONE WAS, AS YOU SAID, IT WAS FOX NEWS. AND THAT'S OPPOSED TO SPEED IDA WHICH THIS BILL DOESN'T APPLY TO THAT MEANS IT WAS SIGNED AS PART OF THE SETTLEMENT. THE OTHER NDA THAT I WAS BALANCINWAS WITH THE GOVERNOR OF NEW JERSEY GOVERN PHIL MURPHY PAIR THAT WAS ON THE FIRST DAY OF WORK. AND OF COURSE, AN NDA LIKE THIS WOULD ABSOLUTELY APPLY TO THAT CASE. BECAUSE IN THAT INSTANCE, I WAS A WITNESS TO A HORRIBLE TOXICITY ON HIS CAMPAIGN. I SPOKE TO HIM ABOUT IT. I CONFIDED IN HIM BUT HE DIDN'T GET IT UNDER CONTROL SOMETHING BAD WAS GOING TO HAPPEN. SURE ENOUGH, A YOUNG WOMAN CAME TO ME ABOUT A YEAR LET -- A YEAR LATER AND TOLD ME SHE HAD BEEN SEXUALLY ASSAULTED I ONE OF MY COLLEAGUES. INSTEAD OF BEING ABLE TO TALK TO HER ABOUT IT, I WAS REMINDED BY HIS ATTORNEYS THAT I COULD NOT SPEAK TO HER BECAUSE I WAS BOUND BY AN NDA. I COULD NOT TELL HER ANYTHING I WITNESSED OR TELL HER SHE WAS NOT ALONE, THAT I HAD HEARD OF OTHER WOMEN WHO WERE IN SIMILAR SITUATIONS. THAT WAS A HEARTBREAKING MOMENT IN MY LIFE BECAUSE HERE YOU HAVE A YOUNG WOMAN COMING TO YOU ASKING FOR HELP, AND YOU CAN'T TELL HER WHY YOU CAN'T HELP HER,

BECAUSE MY NDA WAS SO BROUGHT, I COULD NOT TELL HER I HAD AN NDA. AS A RESULT OF THAT, THAT MOTIVATED ME TO MAKE SURE THIS WOULD NOT HAPPEN TO ANYBODY ELSE. THAT'S WHY GRETCHEN AND I GOT TOGETHER TO FORM LIFT OUR VOICES. THAT WAS MY EXPERIENCE THAT MOTIVATED ME TO MAKE SURE THE SPEAK OUT ACT WAS NEVER GOING TO PREVENT ONE MORE PERSON FROM BEING ABLE TO TELL THEIR OWN STORY OR THE STORIES OF OTHER PEOPLE. LISA: YOU DID TOUCH ON ONE THING THOUGH, THIS AD WOULD NOT CHANGE ANY NONDISCLOSURE AGREEMENTS THAT ARE SIGNED AS PART OF A SETTLEMENT. ARE YOU WORRIED THAT THAT COULD BE A MEANS TO PRESSURE PEOPLE WHO ARE SUFFERING ABUSE AND STILL KIND OF HAVE THAT CODE OF SILENCE AND FORCE? JULIE: CERTAINLY THIS BILL DOESN'T DO EVERYTHING WE WANTED. FROM THE PERSPECTIVE OF LIFT OUR VOICES, OUR ORGANIZATION, WE BELIEVE YOU SHOULD HAVE NO NDA'S WHATSOEVER FOR ANY TOXIC WORKPLACE EXPERIENCES. THIS BILL DOES NOT GO THAT FAR. WHAT THIS BILL DOES DO IS MAKE SURE HARASSMENT OR SEXUAL ASSAULT, OR YOU ARE WITNESSING THOSE THINGS HAPPENING TO YOU OR

SOMEBODY ELSE, WHAT YOU ARE ABLE TO DO IS TALK ABOUT IT PUBLICLY BEFORE YOU FILE A LAWSUIT, BEFORE YOU HAVE TO GO TO COURT. TO STATE YOUR CASE. THAT IS IMPORTANT FOR SO MANY PEOPLE. THEY DON'T NECESSARILY WANT TO FILE A LAWSUIT. WHAT MOST WOMEN IN MY EXPERIENCE WANT TO DO IS CONTINUE WORKING, BUT WE WANT TO BE ABLE TO WARN OTHERS ABOUT PREDATORS. THEY WANT TO WARN OTHERS ABOUT PERILS THAT THEY MAY BE ENCOUNTERING. JUST TO HAVE SOMEBODY TO TALK TO OF WHAT IS HAPPENING AT WORK. THESE NDA'S ARE SO BROUGHT, YOU CAN'T TALK TO YOUR COLLEAGUES, YOUR LOVED ONES, SOMETIMES TO YOUR PRIEST, YOUR RABBI, YOUR THERAPIST, ANYBODY, ABOUT WHAT IS HAPPENING TO YOU. THIS MEANS NOW YOU CAN IF YOU HAVE SUFFERED FROM SEXUAL HARASSMENT OR ASSAULT. THAT IS IMPORTANT NOT JUST FROM THE PERSPECTIVE OF A GOOD WORKPLACE EXPERIENCE, BUT THE PERSPECTIVE OF MAKING SURE PEOPLE ARE ABLE TO GET THIS OFF THEIR CHEST AND CONFIDE IN OTHERS OF WHAT IS HAPPENING TO THEM. LISA: THIS IS COMING IN JUST AFTER THE FIVE YEAR ANNIVERSARY OF THE ME TOO HASHTAG REALLY JUST OPENING UP THE PUBLIC VIEW ON THE SCOPE AND SCALE OF SEXUAL ASSAULT AND HARASSMENT IN OUR

SOCIETY. BUT I WONDER NOW, FIVE YEARS LATER, WHERE DO YOU THINK WE ARE WITH THE RECOGNITION AND ATTENTION TO THOSE ISSUES? JULIE: WE STRONGLY BELIEVE THAT LIFT OUR VOICES THAT WE'RE MAKING PROGRESS. WE JUST PASSED A FORCED ARBITRATION BILL THIS YEAR THAT THE PRESIDENT SIGNED THAT PRECLUDES PEOPLE FROM HAVING TO GO THROUGH FORCED ARBITRATION IF YOU HADEEN HARASSED OR SEXUALLY ASSAULTED. WE ARE NOT GOING TO STOP. THOSE PEOPLE WHO THINK THE #METOO MOVEMENT WAS A FLASH IN THE PAN, YOU SEE THAT THAT IS NOT THE CASE. NOT ONLY ARE WE PASSING FEDERAL LEGISLATION, WE ARE PASSING LEGISLATION AT THE STATE LEVEL. NEW JERSEY BECAME THE FIRST THING IN THE NATION TO GET RID OF NDA'S FOR ALL TOXIC WORKPLACE ISSUES. THE SAME THING HAPPENED IN CAFORNIA. . COMPANIES ARE PAYING ATTENTION. WASHINGTON STATE LAW PASSED IN MICROSOFT THAT GOT RID OF NDA'S FOR THEIR GLOBAL WORKFORCE. THE #METOO MOVEMENT IS FULL STEAM AHEAD. IT IS NOT A FLASH IN THE PAN. FOR ALL THE SETBACKS THAT PEOPLE SEE, SOMETIMES IT IS ONE STEP

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

TRAINING AND MODERNIZING TO MEET WHAT THE U.S. SAYS IS A SINGULAR GOAL. BE ABLE TO INVADE TAIWAN AND BEAT BACK ANY U.S. RESPONSE BY 2027. THAT DATE SET BY PRESIDENT GENERAL SECRETARY AND SUPREME COMMANDER XI JINPING LAST MONTH AT THE CONGRESS, HE REITERATED HIS VOW TO REUNIFY ONE WAY OR ANOTHER. >> WE INSIST ON STRIVING FOR THE PROSPECT OF PEACE -- PEACEFUL REUNIFICATION WITH THE GREATEST SINCERITY AND WITH THE GREATEST EFFORT. HOWEVER, WE ARE NOT COMMITTED TO ABANDONING THE USE OF FORCE AND WE RESERVE THE OPTION OF TAKING ALL NECESSARY MEASURES. CKNIBU: 20T 22 H PAS MODEL, A SMALL, AGILE ARMY CAN STAND UP TO A SUPERPOWER. TAIWAN'S MILITARY IS 1/10 THE SIZE OF CHINA'S. AND THE WAR IN UKRAINE HAS HIGHLIGHTED EFFORTS TO EMBRACE AN AGILE DEFENSE, -- DEFENSE. WITH EXPANDED MISSILES, IMPROVED AIR DEFENSE, AND INCREASED SURVEILLANCE AND RECONNAISSANCE. LAST WEEKEND AT THE HALIFAX

INTERNATIONAL SECURITY FORM, I SAT DOWN WITH TAIWAN'S DEPUTY FOREIGN MINISTER, MING-YEN TSAI. >> IN TAIWAN, WE'RE WATCHING THE SITUATION IN UKRAINE CLOSELY, AND WILL CONTINUE TO BEEF UP OUR DEFENSE SO AS TO RAISE THE COST FOR THE POTENTIAL INVASION FROM THE OTHER SIDE OF THE TAIWAN STRAIT. NICK: U.S. OFFICIALS RECENTLY VISITED TAIPEI, I WAS TOLD, TO TALK ABOUT SOME OF THE LESSONS FROM THE UKRAINE WAR. WHAT DID THEY TELL Y? >> IN THE BATTLEFIELD OF UKRAINE, WE CAN SEE I'S VERY IMPORTANT YOU NEED TO HOLD A SOLIDARITY AND, YOU KNOW, UNITY TO FIGHT BACK. ON A DAILY BASIS, WE SUFFER MILIRY INTIMIDATION, ECONOMIC COERCION, POLITICAL INFILTRATION, CYBER STRIKE, DISINFORMATION CAMPAIGN AND THE INTERNATIONAL BLOCKADE. NICK: YOU'RE INCREASING DEFENSE SPENDING ABOUT 14%, UP TO 2.4% OF GDP. A FORMER PACIFIC COMMANDER IN THE U.S. TOLD US THAT'S NOT ENOUGH. THAT THE U.S. SHOULDN'T COME TO YOUR AID UNTIL YOU CAN PROVE YOU'LL BE ABLE TO LEAD YOUR OWN RESISTANCE. CAN YOU?

>> YES, I THINK IT WOULD BE NEIGHBOR ENOUGH. BUT WE NEED TO USE OUR LIMITED RESOURCES IN A VERY SMART WAY. AND THAT THE REASON WHY TAIWAN ALSO CARRY ON OUR REFORMS FOR OUR LONG-TERM MILITARY STRUCTURE. AND THPURPOSE IS TO MAKE TAIWANESE MILITARY FORCES MORE RESILIENT, MORE AGILE. NICK: A RUSSIAN DEFEAT IN UKRAINE, MING-YEN TSAI SAYS, WOULD HELP DETER BEIJING. >> IT'S VERY IMPORTANT FOR WE INTERNATIONAL PANERS TO HOLD A SPIRIT OF SOLIDARITY TO RAISE THE PRICE FOR RUSSIA'S INVASION. IF WE FAILED, I'M AFRAID THAT CHINA MAY COPY THAT KIND OF MODEL TO DO THE SAME THING TO ITS NEIGHBORHOOD. NICK: THE BIDEN ADMINISTRATION HAS APPROVED 6 PACKAGES TO MILITARY AID TO TAIWAN, ALONG WITH TRAINERS. BUT THAT TRAINING IS LIMITED TO HOW TO OPERATE THE WEAPONS. YOU'RE NOT CONDUCTING FIELD OR FLEET EXERCISES. DO YOU THINK THERE SHOULD BE? >> WE WOULD LIKE TO HAVE ALL KINDS OF CONTACT AND COOPERATION WITH OUR AMERICAN COUNTERPARTS. BETWEEN OUR MILITARY FORCES. THAT WOULD BE VERY HELPFUL. NICK: IT SOUNDS LIKE YOU ARE ASKING FOR MORE TRAINING.

>> IF WE CAN HAVE A LITTLE BIT MORE, IT WILL BE WELCOME. NICK: AND ARE YOU CONCERNED OR WOULD YOU BE CONCERNED THAT THAT WOULD ACTUALLY PROVOKE BEIJING AND MAKE WAR MORE LIKELY IF THE U.S. WERE TO INCREASE ITS TRAINING WITH TAIWAN? >> CHINA ONLY UNDERSTOOD THE LANGUAGE OF POWER POLITICS. >> SO YOU ARE SAYING THE UNITED STATES WOULD COME TO TAIWAN'S DEFENSE IF CHINA WAS ATTACKED? >> YES, WE HAVE A COMMITMENT TO DO THAT. NICK: ON THREE SEPARATE OCCASIONS -- >> ARE YOU WILLING TO GET INVOLVED MILITARILY TO DEFEND TAIWAN IF IT COMES TO THA >> YES. >> YOU ARE? >> THAT'S A COMMITMENT WE MADE. NICK: PRESIDENT BIDEN HAS RHETORICALLY BROKEN WITH 4 DECADES OF US STRATEGIC AMBIGUITY, ABOUT WHETHER THE U.S. WILL DEFEND TAIWAN. PRES. BIDEN: OUR ONE CHINA POLICY HAS NOT CHANGED, HAS NOT CHANGED. NICK: LAST WEEK, DESPITE HIS OWN COMMENTS, HE REITERATED THE US "ACKNOWLEDGES THE CHINESE POSITION THAT THERE IS BUT ONE CHINA AND TAIWAN IS PART OF CHINA." WHAT DOES TAIWAN EXPECT THE US TO DO RIGHT NOW IF BEIJING WERE TO INVADE?

>> I THINK THAT THE FIRST PRIORITY OF TAIWAN'S CONSIDERATION AND EXPECTATION FOR THE COOPERATION WITH THE UNITED STATES IS TO TAKE SOME JOINT EFFORTS TO DETER WAR RATHER THAN TO WAIT THE WAR FOUND HAPPENING AND THEN TO TAKE SOME JOINT ACTION. NICK: I WONDER IF I COULD ASK YOU ABOUT UKRAINE AND ASK YOU ABOUT A FUNDAMENTAL LESSON THAT SOME IN THE U.S. ARE TAKING ABOUT REDUCING THE AMBIGUITY OF WHETHER THE U.S. WOULD SUPPORT TAIWAN. TO DETER -- TO DETER WAR. DO YOU AGREE? [22.7] >> WHAT WE SENSE IN TAIWAN IS US COMMITMENT TO TAIWAN SECURITY IS BECOMING CLEARER THAN EVER. SO WE WILL CONTINUE TO USE THIS MOMENTUM TO DEEPEN SECURITY PARTNERSHIP BETWEEN OUR TWO SIDES. NICK: THERE IS MOMENTUM. BUT WOULD YOU RATHER SEE A CHANGE IN U.S. POLICY GIVING UP STRATEGIC AMBIGUITY? >> ACTUALLY, TAIWAN REALIZED THAT IT'S OUR RESPONSIBILITY TO SAFEGUARD OUR SOVEREIGNTY AND DEMOCRACY. SO WE WILL CONTINUE OUR ENDEAVOR TO BEEF UP OUR DEFENSE CAPACITY. AND WE WOULD ALSO, YOU KNOW, INVITE STRONGER SUPPORT OF OUR INTERNATIONAL PARTNERS SO AS TO MA BEIJING UNDERSTAND THAT

TAIWAN IS NOT ALONE. NICK: DEPUTY FOREIGN MINISTER, THANK YOU VERY MUCH. >> THANK YOU SO MUCH TO BE HERE . ♪ JUDY: THE RECENT INTERNATNAL CLIMATE SUMMIT PUT A SPOTLIGHT ON THE PROBLEM OF METHANE EMISSIONS WHICH ARE RESPONSIBLE FOR ABOUT 30% OF THE PLANETS WARMING. RE COUNTRIES ARE PLEDGING TO REDUCE THOSE EMISSIONS. AND THE UNITED NATIONS IS CREATING A METHANE DETECTION PROGRAM USING SATELLITE TECHNOLOGY. BUT METHANE LEAKS REMAIN A SERIOUS PROBLEM, PARTICULARLY AT A TIME WHEN THE U.S. HAS INCREASED OIL AND NATURAL GAS PRODUCTION. SCIENCE CORRESPONDENT MILES O'BRIEN REPORTS ON THE CHALLENGE OF TRACKING THE EMISSIONS AND WHY THEY ARE HIGHER THAN IS PUBLICLY DISCLOSED. MILES: THE ROAD TO ZERO GREENHOUSE GAS EMISSIONS BEGINS HERE, IN A PLACE WHERE WE ARE HURTLING FASTER AND FASTER IN THE OPPOSITE DIRECTION.

THIS THE PERMIAN BASIN, THE LARGEST OIL FIELD IN AMERICA. 86,000 SQUARE MILES SPANNING TEXAS AND NEW MEXICO. THERE ARE TENS OF THOUSANDS OF OIL WELLS HERE. CURRENT PRODUCTION IS ABOUT FIVE AND A HALF MILLION BARRELS A DAY AND IT WILL LIKELY DOUBLE IN A FEW YEARS. >> THIS IS HAPPENING BECAUSE THEY DEVELOPED THE TECHNOLOGY TO FRACK OIL AND GAS FROM SHALE. IF THEY HADN'T DONE THAT, WE WOULD HAVE CONVERTED TO CLEAN ENERGY A LONG TIME AGO. MILES: SHARON WILSON IS AN ENVIRONMENTAL ACTIVIST WHO IS BEARING WITNESS TO AN ONGOING GREENHOUSE GAS DISASTER IN THE PERMIAN BASIN. WHEN OIL RISES TO THE SURFACE UNDER PRESSURE, IT COMES WITH A WITCHES BREW OF HYDROCARBON GASES, INCLUDING METHANE, ALSO UNDER PRESSURE. METHANE TRAPS ABOUT 80 TIMES MORE HEAT DURING A 20 YEAR LIFETIME THAN CARBON DIOXIDE. IT IS RESPONSIBLE FOR ABOUT 30% OF HUMAN CAUSED GLOBAL WARMING.

RMIAN IS THE LARGEST METHANE EMITTING OIL AND GAS BASIN IN THE U.S. SO TO PUT THIS INTO PERSPECTIVE, THERE ARE GLOBAL CONSEQUENCES TO THIS. >> ABSOLUTELY. I MEAN, WE ARE HARMING THE ENTIRE PLANET AND EVERY PERSON AND EVERY LIVING THING ON IT BY WHAT WE ARE DOING HERE IN TEXAS. AND WE CALL THIS A CLIMATE BOMB. MILES: IT IS AN INVISIBLE, ODORLESS BOMB. WORKING WITH THE NONPROFIT, EARTHWORKS, SHARON IS USING A $100,000 CAMERA THAT GIVES HER SUPERPOWER VISION. >> KILL THAT VEMENT THERE, THAT IS ALL POLLUTION. MILES: THE CAMERA RECORDS THE SPECTRAL SIGNATURE OF HYDROCARBONS AND VOLATILE ORGANIC COMPOUNDS. SO WHAT LOOKS LIKE THIS IN VISIBLE LIGHT BECOMES THIS IN SHARON'S VIEWFINDER. >> I AM SEEING A LOT OF METHANE BLASTING OUT FROM THAT FLARE, THAT IS BARELY LIT. MILES: EVEN THOUGH METHANE IS THE PRIMARY INGREDIENT OF

NATURAL GAS, HERE IN THE PERMIAN BASIN, IT'S MOSTLY CONSIDERED WASTE. TO REDUCE METHANE EMISSIONS, OPERATORS ARE SUPPOSED TO BURN IT IN FLARE STACKS LIKE THESE. THIS CONVERTS METHANE, CH FOUR, INTO CO2, REDUCING ITS IMPACT ON THE CLIMATE ISIS. BUT FREQUENTLY THE FLARE STACKS FLICKER, FALTER OR FAIL. >> UNFORTUNATELY, THIS IS NOT USUAL. THERE'S JUST WAY TOO MUCH METHANE GOING INTO OUR ATMOSPHERE. MILES: BUT HOW MUCH? FLYING OVER THE PERMIAN BASIN WITH A SPECTROMETER, THE NONPROFIT CARBON MAPPER FOUND 1100 SUPER EMITTERS OF METHANE HERE. THE ORGANIZATION IS PUSHING AN EFFORT TO LAUNCH SATELLITES ABLE PINPOINT LARGE METHANE EMISSIONS. NATASHA MILES IS ALSO INTERESTED IN THE BIG PICTURE. SHE IS A PROFESSOR OF ATMOSPHERIC SCIENCE AT PENNSYLVANIA STATE UNIVERSITY. SHE AND COLLEAGUE SCOTT RICHARDSON MAINTAIN A GROWING NETWORK OF MONITORING SITES

OUTSIDE OIL COMPANY FENCE LINES TO MEASURE METHANE. >> WE'VE SET UP FIVE TOWERS WHERE WE MEASURE METHANE CONCENTRATIONS AND THEN WE COMBINE THAT WITH WEATHER MODELS TO FIGURE OUT WHERE THE EMISSIONS ARE COMING FROM AND HOW THAT'S CHANGING IN TIME. MILES: STATE AND FEDERAL REGULATORS RELY ON THE OIL AND GAS INDUSTRY TO DETECT AND REPORT ITS OWN METHANE EMISSIONS. THE INDUSTRYAYS IT HAS DONE SELECTIVE SURVEYS AND FOUND THE LEAK OCCURRENCE RATE IS LESS THAN ONE PER CENT. -- 1%. BUT INDEPENDENT RESEARCHERS DISPUTE THAT. >> WE HAVE FOUND THAT IN CERTAIN LOCATIONS, IT CAN BE UP TO FIVE TIMES WRONG, FIVE TIMES TOO LOW. MILES: SO THE INDUSTRY IS UNDER REPORTING. >> RIGHT. MILES: NO SURPRISE TO SHARON WILSON. >> WE ARE GOING TO NEED THE TRIPOD. MILES: SHE TOOK US TO AN OIL AND GAS PRODUCTION SITE IN REEVES COUNTY. THE HORIZONTAL PIPES ON TOP OF THESE TANKS ARE PART OF A VAPOR RECOVERY SYSTEM DESIGNED TO CAPTURE HYDROCARBON GASES, INCLUDING METHANE, TO BE SOLD OR

BURNED IN A FLARE STACK. BUT THE THERMAL IMAGE PROVED BEYOND DOUBT THAT THE SYSTEM IS NOT DOING ITS JOB. >> DEFINITELY NOT WORKING. THERE IS JUST METHANE COMING UP EVERYWHERE. HUGE PLUME. HUGE PLUME. MASSIVE. AND I WANT YOU TO SEE IT. GOD. MILES: THE AIR HERE WAS THICK WITH THE SMELL OF HYDROGEN SULFIDE, GIVING US HEADACHES AND NAUSEA. THE SITE IS A REPEAT OFFENDER. SHARON HAS RECORDED METHANE EMISSIONS HERE 21 TIMES SINCE APRIL OF 2019. SHE HAS SUBMITTED NINE COMPLAINTS WITH VIDEO EVIDENCE TO THE TEXAS COMMISSION ON ENVIRONMENTAL QUALITY. THE AGENCY SAYS IT HAS CONDUCTED THREE INVESTIGATIONS, AND IN FEBRUARY OF 2021, FINED THE COMPANY ALL OF $1,875. OWNERSHIP OF THE SITE CHANGED HANDS IN SEPTEMBER OF 2021.

THE NEW OWNER SAYS IT HAS SUBSTANTIALLY REDUCED EMISSIONS. BUT WHEN SHARON RETURNED HERE IN OCTOBER, TWO MONTHS AFTER OUR VISIT, SHE RECORDEA HYDROCARBON PLUME EVERY BIT AS LARGE AS THE ONE WE SAW. THE COMPANY SAYS THAT LEAK HAS BEEN REPAIRED. AND THE TCEQ SAYS IT IS CONDUCTING YET ANOTHER INVESTIGATION. SO WHY ARE STATE REGULATORS SEEMINGLY UNABLE TO STOP THESE ONGOING EMISSIONS? >> IT'S THE WILD WEST OUT HERE, RIGHT? MILES: FOR NEARLY 29 YEARS, ENVIRONMENTAL SCIENTIST TIM DOTY WORKED FOR THE TCEQ. WE MET HIM AT AN OIL PRODUCTION SITE IN PECOS. AGAIN, THERE IS A VAPOR RECOVERY SYSTEM HERE OSTENSIBLY TO CAPTURE THE METHANE AND EITHER BURN IT OR SELL IT. AND AGAIN, THERE WAS A HUGE PLUME OF METHANE ESSIONS. SO DOES THE STATE REGULATE METHANE EMISSIONS IN ANY SORT OF MEANINGFUL WAY? >> NO.

OIL AND GAS INDUSTRY IN THE STATE OF TEXAS AND NATIONWIDE IS BASICALLY UNCONTROLLED. IT IS BUILT ON THE HONOR SYSTEM, RIGHT. AND SOME COMPANIES CAN BE GOOD AND MANY OF THEM AREN'T. MILES: IDENTIFYING AND LOCATING THE OWNERS OF SOME OF THESE FACILITIES CAN BE DIFFICULT, SO WE SENT SOME QUESTIONS TO THE AMERICAN PETROLEUM INSTITUTE, A LEADING INDUSTRY TRADE GROUP. WHILE IT DID NOT ADDRESS SPECIFIC CASES, API SAYS THE INDUSTRY IS TAKING ACTION TO DETECT AND REDUCE METHANE EMISSIONS ACROSS THE SUPPLY CHAIN. SUPPORTS THE DIRECT REGULATION OF METHANE FOR NEW AND EXISTING SOURCES. AND VOWS TO WORK WITH EPA TO DEVELOP AND FINALIZE REGULATIONS THAT FURTHER THE PROGRESS MADE IN REDUCING EMISSIONS. AT THE UN CLIMATE MEETING IN EGYPT, PRESIDENT BIDEN ANNOUNCED THE LONG DELAYED EPA REGULATIONS. THE RULE AIMS TO ENSURE THAT WELLS ARE MONITORED FOR LEAKS, ALLOWING USE OF INNOVATIVE DETECTION TECHNOLOGIES, LEVERAGE

DATA FROM REMOTE SENSORS, AND REQUIRE THAT FLARES ARE PROPERLY OPERATED. THE TCEQ SAYS A DECISION ON WHETHER TEXAS WILL SUBMIT A PLAN TO ADHERE TO THE NEW EPA RULE WILL BE MADE AFTER IT IS FINALIZED. REGARDLESS, THE FEDERAL RULE IS NOT ENOUGH TO SATISFY SHARON WILSON. WHAT, IN YOUR VIEW, IS THE SOLUTION? >> THE BEST AVAILABLE CONTROL TECHNOLOGY FOR METHANE IS TO KEEP IT IN THE GROUND. NEVER DRILL THAT HOLE IN THE FIRST PLACE, BECAUSE ONCE YOU DRILL THAT HOLE, THAT'S WHERE IT ALL STARTS. MILES: ONE PERSON, ONE CAMERA, DETERMINED TO INSURE THE METHANE PROBLEM DOES NOT REMAIN INVISIBLE. AND SO SHE KEEPS DRIVING DOWN THE LONG LONELY ROAD TO ZERO. FOR THE PBS NEWSHOUR, I AM MILES O'BRIEN, NEAR PECOS, TEXAS. ♪ JUDY: MILLIONS OF AMERICANS LIVE IN RURAL OR OTHER UNDERSERVED

AREAS KNOWN AS CARE DESERTS, WHERE THERE ARE FEW MEDICAL CARE FACILITIES AND FEW DOCTORS WITH SPECIALIZED EXPERTIS AS FRED DE SAM LAZARO REPORTS FROM NEW MEXICO, ONE DOCTOR IS TRYING TO HELP CHANGE THAT. >> PERFECT, JUST RELAX. NO TAKE A DEEP BREATH. FRED: IT WAS CASES LIKE THESE THAT INSPIRED GASTROENTEROLOGIST SANJEEV ARORA'S IDEA,. 58-YEAR-OLD ROBERT SUBIA CONTRACTED HEPATITIS A VIRAL LIVER INFECTION FROM A BLOOD TRANSFUSION DECADES AGO. REGULAR APPOINTMENTS AND SCANS OF HIS LIVER ARE CRITICAL TO HIS RECOVERY. >> THESE ARE AMAZING RESULTS. >> I JUST NEED TO LOSE SOME WEIGHT, EXERCISE, WHICH I DON'T DO. >> SO WE NEED TO REDUCE THE FATTY LIVER SO WE DON'T GET CLOSE TO THE CIRRHOSIS.

FRED: ROBERT SUBIA HAS THE STRONG SUPPORT OF HIS WIFE FLORENCE, AND HE IS LUCKY IN ANOTHER WAY. THEY LIVE CLOSE TO THIS ALBUERQUE CENTER. ABOUT A THIRD OF NEW MEXICO'S RESIDENCE LIVE IN ITS VAST RURAL AREAS, WHERE A TRIP GET SPECIALIZED MEDICAL CARE CAN OFTEN MEAN A DAY LONG JOURNEY, OR EVEN OVERNIGHT. THAT IS NOT AFFORDABLE FOR A LOT OF PEOPLE IN A REGION WITH ONE OF THE HIGHEST RATES OF POVERTY IN THE UNITED STATES. IT WAS ONE CASE IN PARTICULAR THAT HAUNTED DR. ARORA, A SINGLE MOTHER WITH TWO YOUNG CHILDREN WHOSE HOME WAS A FIVE HOUR DRIVE FROM HIS CLINIC. >> SHE HAD CANCER OF THE LIVER AND SHE PASSED AWAY SIX MONTHS LATER LEAVING THESE TWO CHILDREN. I WAS ASKING MYSELF, WHY DID SHE DIE? AND THE ANSWER WAS SHE DIED BECAUSE THE RIGHT KNOWLEDGE DIDN'T EXIST AT THE RIGHT PLACE AT THE RIGHT TIME. AND THIS WAS NOT AN ISOLATED CASE. FRED: AT THE TIME, AMID A HEP C EPIDEMIC, DR. ARORA WAS ONE OF VERY FEW SPECIALISTS TREATING IT. HIS APPOINTMENT CALENDAR STRETCHED OUT EIGHT MONTHS. >> HE HAD JUST STARTED TALKING

ABOUT IT AND I WOULD LOVE TO HEAR MORE. FRED: THAT IS WHEN HE SAID THE IDEA CAME TO HIM TO "DEMOCRATIZE THAT KNOWLEDGE" HAVE SPECIALISTS, USING TECHNOLOGY, SHARE THEIR EXPERTISE WITH RURAL PROVIDERS SO THEY COULD TREAT THEIR PATIENTS MUCH CLOSER TO HOME. HE DUBBED IT PROJECT ECHO, EXTENSION FOR COMMUNITY HEALTHCARE OUTCOMES. >> I DON'T LIKE PEOPLE TO EXERCISE WHEN THEY ARE FEELING REALLY TIRED. FRED: HIS VISION IS TO MOVE BEYOND THE MODEL OF ONE DOCTOR, IN THIS CASE, A SPECIALIST IN AN URBAN MEDICAL CENTER WORKING WITH ONE PATIENT. >> TO SEE SOMEBODY IN A RURAL AREA, THEY SEE ONE LESS PATIENT IN THE URBAN AREA, THE TOTAL NUMBER OF PATIENTS DOES NOT GO UP. WE NEED AN EXPONENTIAL IMPROVEMENT IN CAPACITY TO DELIVER BEST PRACTICE CARE. THAT IS WHERE SOMETHING LIKE ECHO COMES IN WHERE WE MULTIPLY EXPERTISE. SO I -- >> IT HELPS LEVEL THE PLAYING FIELD AND MEDICINES. FRED: DR. ALITHEA GABRELLAS PRACTICES AT THE GALLUP INDIAN MEDICAL CENTER, ABOUT A TWO HOUR

DRIVE FROM ALBUQUERQUE. >> WE WERE ABLE TO TREAT A LOT OF PEOPLE THAT HAD BEEN WAITING YEARS TO BE ABLE TO ACCESS TREATMENT, AND WE WERE ABLE TO CURE A LOT OF PATIENTS. I HAD THE SAME KNOWLEDGE, AS YOU KNOW, A HIGH LEVEL HEPATOLOGIST AT THE UNIVERSITY OF MEXICO TO BE ABLE TO BRING THAT NEW RESOURCE TO MY PATIENTS. >> IS IT SAFE TO SAY IT IS LITERALLY SAVING LIVES OF YOUR PATIENTS? >> ABSOLUTELY. FRED: ECHO USES A AHUB AND -- A HUB AND SPOKE DESIGNED TO CONNECT A TEAM OF SPECIALISTS. THE HUB, TO MULTIPLE PARTICIPANTS, THE SPOKES, VIA ZOOM, DURING REGULARLY SCHEDULED SESSIONS THAT INCLUDE DISCUSSIONS ON SPECIFIC CASES AND MENTORSHIP. >> THIS MAN HAS ONE OF THE MOST COMPLEX CASES OF MULTIDRUG RESISTANCE. FRED: DR. GABRELLAS, WHO COMPLETED A FELLOWSHIP IN INFECTIOUS DISEASE, CREDITS ECHO FOR KEEPING HER UP TO DATE ON HOW TO TREAT A WIDE VARIETY OF CHALLENGING CONDITIONS, LIKE THAT OF 27-YEAR-OLD DANA QUINTERO. >> I ENDED UP YOU KNOW, BEING AN

ICO, OR I THINK, ICU, FOR A WHOLE WEEK. AND THEN THAT'S WHENEVER DR. GABRELLAS WALKED INTO A ROOM AND SHE WAS LIKE YOU HAVE AN INFECTION, IT IS CALLED A STAR. >> EVEN THOUGH THIS WAS A FAIRLY SERIOUS INFECTIOUS DISEASE THAT, YOU KNOW, MIGHT HAVE PENTIALLY BEEN HAD NEEDED TO BE HANDLED IN -- I FELT, YOU KNOW, 100% CONFIDENT DOING THAT KIND OF CARE HERE, BECAUSE I HAVE INSTANT ACCESS TO THOSE ACADEMIC MEDICAL CENTERS THROUGH ECHO. FRED: SINCE ITS CREATION NEARLY 20 YEARS AGO, PROJECT ECHO'S PRESENCE HAS MULTIPLIED ACROSS THE GLOBE. THERE ARE NOW 792 HUBS OPERATING IN 69 COUNTRIES, FOCUSING ON DOZENS OF SPECIALTIES. IT IS SUPPORTED ENTIRELY BY GRANTS FROM GOVERNNT AND PRIVATE SOURCES. >> ONE OF THE FIRST PLACES PROJECT ECHO EXPANDED WAS IN DR. AURORA'S NATIVE INDIA, A COUNTRY WITH MYRIAD PUBLIC HEALTH CHALLENGES WHICH HAVE TAKEN A BACKSEAT DURING COVID. AMONG THE CAMPAIGNS USING THE ECHO PLATFORM IS THE FIGHT AGAINST TUBERCULOSIS, WHICH HAS SURGED IN RECENT TIMES. TUBERCULOSIS IS PREVENTABLE AND IN MOST CASES CURABLE AND REACHING VULNERABLE POPULATIONS

IS KEY TO REDUCING THE NUMBER OF CASES. LAST YEAR, MORE THAN HALF A MILLION PEOPLE DIED FROM TB IN INDIA. THE VERNMENT HAS PLEDGED TO ELIMINATE TB BY 2025 AND DR. KAMAL CHOPRA, AT THE NEW DELHI TUBERCULOSIS CENTER, SAYS THE ECHO MODEL WILL BE KEY. >> IT SPEEDS UP OUR REACH TO THE COMMUNITY. BY THIS ECHO PLATFORM AT R NATIONAL LEVEL, ATTENDANCE GOES UP TO 800. FRED: 800 IN A SING MEETING. >> YES, IN A SINGLE MEETING. FRED: IN CENTRAL DELHI, NEERA AND PREETI ARE AMONG HUNDREDS OF VOLUNTEERS WHO VISIT PATIENTS IN THEIR HOUSE. RECOVERED FROM TB THEMSELVES, THEY SAY THEY USE THEIR ECHO TRAINING TO HELP PATIENTS MANAGE THEIR MEDICATION AND WATCH OTHER FAMILY MEMBERS WHO MAY BE VULNERABLE. >> WE TELL THEM NOT TO IGNORE EVEN TRIVIAL SYMPTOMS. FEVER OR COLD, THEY NEED TO GO IN AND CONSULT WITH A DOCTOR IMMEDIATELY AND GET A DIAGNOSIS OR GET MEDICINE >> ALSO THOSE PEOPLE WHO HAVE HIV OR DIABETES ARE MORE LIKELY

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