Penitentiary of New Mexico Riot - Inmates Speak - 2

Okay, why don't you just do you want to give your name a gun? Hold on. No, just tell him about... You all set? Hold on. Let me kill you. All right. All right, so I need a coupon. Now you can TV. You can be my production man. Okay. All right. All set? Sure. Okay. I believe the main problem in this pandemic is over the chronic conditions. I filed a class 81 suit and 77 on it. I knew we were sitting on a time bomb. I knew eventually that it was going to blow up. I was trying to prevent it through mediation, but mediation hasn't seemed to accomplish nothing. The guys are just fed up with being harassed by the inmate guards. It seems that most of these guards don't have adequate facilities, adequate training. As me being the spokesman for the inmates, I'd say that a new administration is indeed needed.

Do you need me if I was having a question? From the Deputy Warden down. Deputy Warden went to her down. Anybody else have any questions? A lot of them. I'm sorry I didn't catch you. You said you needed to do it. We sure do. So you don't have the Deputy Warden on them? Yeah, the Deputy Warden's warden? What's wrong with it? This place is... There's too many cheese, not enough indents. Each captain has his own rules. He asked whether you want the jury to stay his warden. Well, Jerry Griffin seems to be pretty lenient as far as his job. But I've come to realize that he's nothing but a headstone also. From what we want, we want an administration where they could cope with us. All the inmate really wants is mutual respect. And we'll give them respect.

But the respect that we're getting isn't adequate. Good deal. That's all the inmate wants. Let me show you respect. You gave me a word. You kept it. Thank you. Good luck. Can you find out just who's next? Okay, no problem. Ernie? Yeah, he stepped this way. This way? Okay. I'll wait for my cue again. This is John Roberts. Yeah. You haven't met him, haven't you? Bill Pellett, the new associate of the coach. Okay. You all set your cue in? Damn, man. Yeah. You can bring anyone out. You can bring them around. But I want to keep talking to you. Okay? That doesn't bother me. Cool. Okay, great. Okay, well, what we'd really like to find out is what's going to happen to us right now, you know, after we release all the hostages and everything, if we're going to, is there going to be retaliation? That's one thing, one of our questions. They're going to hurt us. Okay. If not, there's no way we can live in these units. What's going to happen to us then?

Are they going to transfer us to county jails? Are they going to know? What's going to happen to us? You know that? Candelar, you're talking about, like, as soon as it's over, whether it be like it wraps up and say two hours, then you want to know exactly what the game plan is. Can I, Felix? Candelar is something you may have worked on. He's anxious to know what the game plan is. You want to come in? Come on in a second. You still got... Remember. All right. You want to ask about the game plan guy, okay? Keep the guys back for just a minute, okay? Can I get Felix? He wanted to ask about the game plan. We're just holding for a minute. Okay. Felix comes in for a second. He was answering Candelar's question. We'll get it on the tape. Candelar asked Felix. He wants to know what will happen. It's like what will happen immediately to make sure you don't... There's no retaliation, so...

Once you get the hostages out, people give up their weapons. Yeah. And they come out here and then we go in and assist the situation in there to see where we're going to house the rest of the people. And you have my word that nobody will be beaten up, shot at, or anything else. Okay. I wanted to ask you... There's not too many good living quarters left. Okay. What's going to happen there if you don't have enough room to put out the people? Are they going to be transferred to county jails? Are they going to be just handcuffed out here? No. No, we will find proper housing. In fact, we're... We have contacted other states to see if we can house on an emergency measure. Okay. That sounds good to you. Can you pass it on to them? But I need... Can you bring someone else up to me? And then pass on to what Felix said, okay? Okay. Hey guy, you kept your word. Okay. Good luck. Yeah. Praxamine. Sure. Okay. Come here. I need about a minute to set up my camera again. Okay. Can you... Just let them know the reason I'm wearing the hat is because of skin cancer.

Put in a plug. I got a sunburn yesterday. We'll just hold it back. These guys are cool, man. Last night when they were struck, talking to him from behind the gate. Banana. Blining? Can I see you for a minute? Well, you were gone. Okay, Felix.

Blining needs you right now. Felix. Blining needs to talk to you right now. I thought I might as well get that on film. So they got it on record, man. That goes out. That's going to all the TV stations. And those guys, that's the Associated Press. That's the United Press. That's the fellow U.S. Mexican. Do you met him? Yeah. John Robertson. He had asked, he had asked, particularly, for you. Since Kendall, are you? Go feather. You should owe your people coming back on the mat. You guys are actually worried. You haven't gone back on me once. Not once. Let me tell you. We tried to figure it out. Well, put this way. We're with you. But we're just going to stay here all the time. You want to go back inside. But you guys haven't broken your work. To me once. As long as they know that we don't work. We don't work for the penitentiary people. Well, you can also interview. I'd like to interview you very much also. And the Huskies just...

Oh, we will. No, we will do that. But my first commitment was to talk to you guys. You know that. Okay. Okay. Are you ready? Yeah. Yeah. Mike Colby. Mike Colby. This is Mike Colby. Well, he said, you mind if I wait us because I got a... No, that's fine. I was out in the sun all day listening. Mike Colby and you haven't met you. Why don't you just shake hands for a moment. A journal bell feather from the Associated Press. Yeah. John Gillis. And John Robertson, who's with the New Mexican. That's my cameraman. And who can't hear me. They're from the United Press. The United Press. Let's see United Press here. Yeah. Yeah. And this is the TV thing here. I'm going to go out to all the TV stations. Let's get... No way, man. No way. He... I'm buying a city where...

I don't know if you'll find anything. Anything you say. I'm going... I ain't going to go and edit it. Okay. Now we can go, Mike. First, I made the promise that we would come in. I don't want to ask you a question. Later I may want to ask you if you don't want to answer it in fine. But you got a statement to make about it. Yeah. What I'd like to say about this institution. That it's the administration in this institution's been here for over 20 years. And most of them, they're just a click. They call us click. They've got one of their own. They do anything they want, concerning cell house three. And they just got us run. Okay. Dr. Mark Orner, who is the head of the Psychological Unit here in Penitentiary, has threatened myself. And Mr. Stevens, they're on several occasions. We were charged with escape two months ago from the Penitentiary. And it was because of him. They have threatened our lives. They're going to continue to threaten our lives even after we leave this Penitentiary. But one of our demands now is that the five of us, the five that you've talked to, are in jeopardy right now.

No matter what they say, once you people leave and they go in there, they're going to beat us. And beat us bad. You know, people may not believe that kind of shit goes on, but it does. I've seen it. I've had it done to me. I know. You know. I don't understand. You know, they think that what we've done here is wrong. This Penitentiary is 20 years behind any joint in the United States. And I think that can be proven by records. So, yeah, I think we've done something right. Mike, thank you. And even if I was having any questions of Mike. Okay. I appreciate it. Okay. I'm Randy Mills. Good luck. Good luck. I need just one thing. Let me introduce you to you. He's going to set the camera. This thing is going to all the TV stations. The Spruce Campbell, Albuquerque Journal. Bill Feather with the Associated Press. John Gillis, the United Press International. John Robertson with the Santa Fe in the Mexican. And one of the fellows won the Mexican guy here. I made a promise to him last night that I bring back the cameras and the reporters.

And I don't want to stop you from saying anything. What you say is going to them unedited. We don't work for the Benitentiary people. We're here because I took the words of the guys last night. And they haven't broken it to me yet. Come back. You have your name first. Yeah. My name is William Jack Stevens. Yeah. And I was housed in segregation. About. It's the EP. The P.H. P.H. Yes, sir. Okay. And I was housed in segregation. About three and a half months ago for a tempted escape. And the reason the reason for that escape was I was being threatened by inmate staff. And Dr. Mark Orner for one particular. And people was bringing me this every day telling me that Mark Orner had some kind of grievance against us. And he was not going to allow us out of this penitentiary alive.

And as of this minute, I'm doing a life's 15-year sentence with a life running wild. And I feel as long as I'm in this penitentiary, I'll never get out alive. Do you have anything else to say? Well, yes, sir. Go ahead. I would like to talk to Mr. Rodriguez if I may. Felix. Felix, can I see you for a minute? Oh, he's talking to the other guy. Felix, can we see you for one minute? Can you come in for one minute? Sure can. Mr. Rodriguez has just told me that he would give myself, Mr. Stevens, and to the other hand, you have talked to his word in writing that the five of us will be transferred out of this penitentiary by tomorrow. All right, let's say it again. Let's get around the TV. Can you swing a camera? Can you get us? Do it again. Mr. Rodriguez. Okay, I have a short Kobe Stevens, the Tutorans, and...

Candelaria. Candelaria, that they will be transferred out of state tomorrow. It's out of state. Right. To another institution. That's five of us. That's five of us. Okay, you satisfied with the... I'll just go... That's right. It's on the camera and it's in the paper. Right. And the other thing is, these men, upon that, I will give them my agreement. I'll give it to Ernie Mills, upon you guys giving me the hostages, and he can give you the paper. I'll bring the paper in TV. We will get the hostages out here and... The fact that... Wait a minute, also, that none of these other dudes here in this institution that are stayed behind... We'll be hurt. No restitution. No segregation. No, nothing. I'm going to tell you right now. You can't put people on the cell block three because there's no cell block three there. We're going to be looking at it. We're looking at other facilities for the people that are in here until we start getting the plates in shape. Fine. Okay, and I think one of the things you cannot expect to perform miracles, okay? Another thing.

It's going to take a little bit of time. Another thing. We don't want the hostages released until we're transferred tomorrow morning. No, no. It is nothing for you people to say that you're here. No, no. You guys are fucking over. We made an agreement this morning. Yep, yep. Mr. Rodriguez, look here. You had a man named Harmon Ellis come back from the state penitentiary in Arizona. Right. He went to court. He got a court order that as soon as his trial was completed, he would be transferred back to Arizona. Yeah, well that man was here for this other escape. You guys didn't fulfill your bargain. Nobody sent him that. I did not know about that court order. Yeah. I talked to Ellis. Okay, all these people, all these people back here are doing Buku time. There's 90% of them are flat time sentences and they cannot go with every other day in the last week. They've had 15 people bring in the segregation on investigation.

No reports, without no reports, just come to their house and say, yeah, you're in investigation and lock you up. And some of them have been in there for four months and don't even know why they're there. You know, all of that people, they've come from court with a life sentence 150 years. Seven minutes. We're making apples in order. Let's take one step at a time, okay? Let's go. Because I told them one thing. I said the physics. We're going to stay here. Like I'm talking to you three. We've got a lot to take. We've got no sound, okay? Good. We've come from court directly to South Blanc 3 without no kind of disciplinary reports here in the institution. They're kept there six, nine months just because they have a life sentence. I wear a much time they have. There's no reason why they should be kept there. They don't give them no reasons. Then all of a sudden they just let them out the population. I think it's probably committed.

You all right? One day did you want to give your name before we, because we just talked for a minute. My name is Rudy Aldas. How do you spell it Rudy? ALDAZ last name. ALDAZ. Rudy. Rudy. Are you D.Y.? Do you have anything else? Yeah. Good. Another thing. All of us five are doing enough time. We're not going to leave this institution for the next five or ten years. You're not going to leave an institution. I am never leaving an institution for the rest of my life. I'm assuming that he talked about being transferred out of state. I'll go out of state to where a motherfucker can do time. Comfortable. And live like a human being. I'm never getting out. Could you guys hold here for a second? Can we do it? Yeah. Can you just make sure bring back the same five? That's cool. I need one thing. When you come back, I need about just about two minutes to set up the camera again. Hey. Cool.

Thank you. You haven't broken your word. None of them have.