PBS NewsHour; Wednesday, March 23, 2022, 6:00pm-7:00pm PDT

JUDY: GOOD. -- GOOD EVENING. KYIV HIT BY A NEW WAVE OF RUSSIAN SHELLING AS CIVILIANS BEAR THE BRUNT OF THE ASSAULT ON MARIUPOL. THEN, THE PASSING OF AN ICON. MADELEINE ALBRIGHT PASSES AWAY. WE EXAMINE HER LIFE AND LEGACY. THEN, THE QUESTIONING CONTINUES. SUPREME COURT NOMINEE KETANJI BROWN JACKSON FACES QUESTIONING FROM THE SENATE. ALL THAT AND MORE ON TONIGHT'S PBS NEWSHOUR. >> MAJOR FUNDING FOR THE PBS

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CATHERINE T. MACARTHUR FOUNDATION COMMITTED TO BUILDING A MORE JUST AND PEACEFUL WORLD. AND WITH THE ONGOING SUPPORT OF THESE INSTITUTIONS. THIS PROGRAM WAS MADE POSSIBLE BY THE CORPORATION FOR PUBLIC BROADCASTING AND BY CONTRIBUTIONS TO YOUR STATION FROM VIEWERS LIKE YOU. THANK YOU. JUDY: IT HAS NOW BEEN ALMOST FOUR WEEKS SINCE RUSSIA INVADED UKRAINE, AND TONIGHT PRESIDENT BIDEN IS IN BRUSSELS, BELGIUM. TOGETHER WITH HIS NATIONAL SECURITY LEADERSHIP, THEY'LL BE PART OF A TRIO OF SUMMITS TOMORROW WITH NATO, THE EUROPEAN UNION, AND THE G-7. MORE SANCTIONS AGAINST RUSSIAN POLITICIANS AND OLIGARCHS ARE ON

THE WAY, AS THE ALLIES CONTINUE COORDINATING SUPPORT FOR UKRAINE. MEANTIME, THE UKRAINIAN COUNTER-OFFENSIVE CONTINUES AROUND THE CAPITAL KYIV, AS RUSSIAN FORCES REMAIN STALLED IN MANY SECTORS OF THE COUNTRY. AND "NATO" OFFICIALS TODAY SAID THE ALLIANCE ESTIMATES THAT BETWEEN SEVEN AND FIFTEEN THOUSAND RUSSIAN SOLDIERS HAVE BEEN KILLED SINCE THE INVASION BEGAN. HERE AGAIN IS JANE FERGUSON, REPORTING FROM KYIV. REPORTER: FIREFIGHTERS IN KYIV RECEIVED THE MOST EMERGENCY CALLS TODAY SINCE RUSSIA'S INVASION BEGAN. ANOTHER SIGN THAT MOSCOW IS NOT LETTING UP ITS ASSAULT ON THE CAPITAL. LOCAL RESIDENT SVETLANA'S HOME IS NOW SMOLDERING RUBBLE - ONLY THE CHARRED REMAINS OF A PAST LIFE. >> WE WERE IN THE BEDROOM, AND I WAS SITTING IN THE ARMCHAIR TCHING TELEVISION. WHEN IT EXPLODED, I RAN AWAY TO THE KITCHEN. AND THERE WAS ALREADY EVERYTHING DAMAGED.

WINDOWS WERE BLOWN, SMOKE AND SMELL OF BURNING AND I COULD NOT TAKE ANYTHING FROM THE ROOMS AND WE RAN OUTSIDE. REPORTER: SHE WAS ABLE TO WALK AWAY. MANY OTHERS WERE NOT. IN THE BESIEGED CITY OF MARIUPOL, SUBJECTED TO THE FIERCEST RUSSIAN ONSLAUGHT OF THE WAR, SOME FORTUNATE ENOUGH TO MAKE THE RARE HUMANITARIAN CORRIDOR OUT ARRIVED IN ZAPORIZHZHYA LAST NIGHT BY BUS GETTING TRAPPED CIVILIANS OUT OF MARIUPOL HAS BECOME THE GRAVEST HUMANITARIAN EMERGENCY OF THIS WAR. THE UKRAINIAN GOVERNMENT SAYS RUSSIAN FORCES COMMANDEERED A CONVOY OF 11 EMPTY BUSES THAT WERE HEADED TO MARIUPOL TO BRING PEOPLE TO SAFETY. REPORTER: -- >> FOR SEVERAL WEEKS WE HAVE BEEN TRYING TO ORGANIZE STABLE HUMANITARIAN CORRIDORS FOR MARIUPOL'S RESIDENTS AND ALMOST ALL OUR ATTEMPTS HAVE BEEN, UNFORTUNATELY, OBSTRUCTED BY SHELLING OR DELIBERATE TERROR BY RUSSIAN OCCUPIERS. REPORTER: BUT A SENIOR U.S. DEFENSE OFFICIAL SAID TODAY UKRAINIANS CONTINUE TO PUSH RUSSIA AWAY FROM KYIV. RUSSIAN

FORCES REMAIN OUTSIDE CHERNIHIV AND KHARKIV, AND ARE NOW INCREASING THEIR OFFENSE IN THE DONBAS REGION. THE U.S. SAID RUSSIAN ATTACKS COULD INCLUDE THE USE OF CHEMICAL WEAPONS, SOMETHING WHICH PRESIDENT BIDEN WARNEDF AGAIN TODAY. EARLIER THIS MONTH, AND WITH NO EVIDENCE, RUSSIA ACCUSED THE U.S. OF DEVELOPING CHEMICAL WEAPONS IN UKRAINE, RAISING WASHINGTON'S FEARS THAT MOSCOW MAY LAUNCH SUCH AN ATTACK. JULIANNE SMITH IS THE U.S. AMBASSADOR TO NATO. >> WHAT WORRIES US ABOUT THOSE TYPES OF STATEMENTS AND ACCUSATIONS IS THEY MAY BE AGAIN SET LAYING KIND OF A TRAP OR NOT A TRAP, BUT A PRETEXT FOR THEM TO DO SOMETHING MORE OR MUCH WORSE INSIDE UKRAINE. REPORTER: THE NATO ALLIANCE IS EXPECTED TO BOLSTER ITS PRESENCE IN EASTERN EUROPE. WITH NEW TROOPS DEPLOYED TO BULGARIA, HUNGARY, ROMANIA AND

SLOVAKIA. POLAND HAD ALSO CALLED FOR AN INTERNATIONAL PEACEKEEPING MISSION IN UKRAINE. A MOVE THAT TODAY RUSS SAID COULD ESCALATE THE CONFLICT. >> IT WILL LEAD TO THE DIRECT CLASH BETWEEN THE RUSSIAN AND NATO ARMED FORCES THAT EVERYONE HAS NOT ONLY TRIED TO AVOID BUT SAID SHOULD NOT TAKE PLACE IN PRINCIPLE. REPORTER: AND TO AVOID THE WAR FROM SPREADING, JENS STOLTENBERG EMPHASIZED ITS COMMITMENT TO PROTECT ALL ALLIES, INCLUDING FROM THE RISK OF NUCLEAR WAR. >> RUSSIA MUST STOP ITS NUCLE SABER RATTLING. THIS IS DANGEROUS AND IT IS A RESPONSIBLE. WE CONVEY TO RUSSIA THAT A NUCLEAR WAR CANNOT BE WON AND SHOULDEVER BE FOUGHT. REPORTER: BUT RUSSIA'S NUCLEAR FORCES ARE ON HIGH ALERT, AND LAST NIGHT THE KREMLIN SPOKESMAN WOULD NOT RULE OUT THE NUCLEAR OPTION. >> WE HAVE THE CONCEPT OF DOMESTIC SECURITY.

IF IT IS AN EXISTENTIAL THREAT, FOR OUR COUNTRY, IT CAN BE USED IN ACCORDANCE WITH OUR CONCEPT. REPORTER: FOR UKRAINIANS, THERE IS LITTLE SECURITY ANYWHERE. YET HOPES OF REBUILDING THEIR CITIES ENDURE, EVEN WHILE THEY ARE STILL UNDER ATTACK A CELLIST PLAYED IN KHARKIV TODAY, RAISING FUNDS FOR HUMANITARIAN AID, AND EFFORTS TO REPAIR HIS CITY WHEN TS WAR IS OVER. FOR THE PBS NEWSHOUR, I'M JANE FERGUSON, IN KYIV, UKRAINE. JUDY: THE NEWSHOUR'S REPORTING FROM UKRAINE IS SUPPORTED IN PARTNERSHIP WITH THE PULITZER CENTER. HERE IN WASHINGTON, SHE WAS KNOWN AS JUST MADELEINE. MOST EVERYONE IN POLITICS, STATECRAFT, AND JOURNALISM

INSTANTLY KNOW WHO THAT WAS. FROM THE VERY HEIGHTS OF GOVERNMENT AND DIPLOMACY, TO FIERCE ADVOCACY FOR DEMOCRACY AND REFUGEES, MADELEINE ALBRIGHT SET A NEW, AND TRAILBLAZING STANDARD. THE FIRST WOMAN TO BECOME SECRETARY OF STATE DIED THIS AFTERNOON IN WASHINGTON, AND LEAVES QUITE A LEGACY. HERE'S NICK SCHIFRIN. REPORTER: FROM HER CHILDHOOD FLEEING NAZIS, TO IN THE 1990S BECOMING THE HIGHEST RANKING WOMAN IN U.S. HISTORY, MADELEINE ALBRIGHT WAS GUIDED BY ONE PRINCIPAL. >> I SO BELIEVE THAT WE ARE ALL THE SAME, AND WE WANT TO MAKE DECISIONS ABOUT OUR OWN LIVES, AND THE ONLY WAY TO DO THAT IS DEMOCRACY. REPORTER: SHE WAS BORN MARIE JANA KORBELOVA IN 1937 IN PRAGUE, CZECHOSLOVAKIA. HER FAMILY LIVED UNDER NAZI OCCUPATION, AND THEN COMMUNISM BEFORE FLEEING FIRST FOR LONDON, THENOLORADO. MARIE BECAME MADELINE, AND, AT AGE 20, A U.S. CITIZEN. IN THE970S SHE ENTERED DEMOCRATIC POLITICS AND WORKED ON PRESIDENT CARTER'S NATIONAL

SECURITY COUNCIL STAFF. SHE THEN BECAME A PROFESSOR OF INTERNATIONAL AFFAIRS AT GEORGETOWN UNIVERSITY, FOCUSED ON THE SOVIET UNION. >> ALSO WITH US TONIGHT IS A SOVIET EXPERT FROM GEORGETOWN UNIVERSITY IN WASHINGTON. SHE IS MADELINE ALBRIGHT. >> IF THE WEST KEEPS THE PRESSURE UP IT IS POSSIBLE THAT THEY WILL MAKE FURTHER CONCESSIONS AND FURTHER ADMISSIONS, BUT WE ARE NOT AWFULLY GOOD AT PREDICTING SOVIET BEHAVIOR. REPORTER: IN 1993, PRESIDENT BILL CLINTON NAMED HER AMBASSADOR TO THE UNITED NATIONS. >> I, MADELINE KORBEL ALBRIGHT. REPORTER: AND THEN, IN 1997, THE COUNTRY'S FIRST FEMALE SECRETARY OF STATE. SHE WAS CONFIRMED, UNANIMOUSLY. >> MADELEINE ALBRIGHT HAS THE STRENGTH AND WISDOM TO HELP ENSURE THAT AMERICA REMAINS THE INDISPENSABLE NATION. REPORTER: IN THAT ROLE, SHE PUSHED FOR NATO'S EXPANSION EAST. CLASS THE NEW -- >> THE NEW EXPANDED NATO IS NOT CONTRARY TO RUSSIA, BUT IN FACT, IS BEING DESIGNED IN ORDER TO HELP PROVIDE SECURITY AND STABILITY IN CENTRAL AND EASTERN EUROPE. REPORTER: IN RESPONSE TO SERBIA'S ETHNIC CLEANSING OF KOSOVAR ALBANIANS IN THE FORMER YUGOSLAVIA. SHE LED THE CHARGE FOR NATO

INTERVENTION. THE BOMBING CAMPAIGN LASTED 78 DAYS. >> WHY DID YOU FEEL SO PASSIONATELY ABOUT KOSOVO? >> BECAUSE IT ISN'T JUST KOSOVO, JIM, IT IS WHAT WAS GOING ON IN THE REGION. WHEN WE WERE FIGHTING HITLER, IT WASN'T JUST HITLER, IT WAS FIGHTING AGAINST FASCISM. WHEN WE WERE FIGHTING AGAINST STALIN, IT WAS NOT JUST THE CRUELTY OF A TOTALITARIAN DICTATOR LIKE STALIN, IT WAS AGAINST COMMUNISM THAT EXTINGUISHED PEOPLE'S ABILITY TO BE FREE. AND WHEN WE'RE DEALING WITH A NOW-INDICTED WAR CRIMINAL SUCH AS MILOSEVIC, IT ISN'T JUST HIM, IT IS STRUGGLI AGAINST THE CONCEPT WHICH IS THAT IT IS NOT APPROPRIATE, POSSIBLE, OR PERMISSIBLE FOR ONE MAN TO UNCORK ETHNIC NATIONALISM AS A WEAPON. REPORTER: IN A VISIT TO KOSOVO FOLLOWING THE CAMPAIGN, ALBRIGHT WAS GREETED AS A HERO AND EXPRESSED A HOPE FOR EUROPE, STILL UNREALIZED.

>> NEVER AGAIN WILL HOUSES AND VILLAGES BE BURNED, AND NEVER AGAIN WILL THERE BE MASSACRES AND MASS GRAVES. REPORTER: WHEN SHE USED THOSE WORDS, SHE HADN'T YET LEARNED HER OWN FAMILY'S HISTORY. HER PARENTS WERE BORN JEWISH, BUT CONVERTED TO CATHOLICISM AND INVENTED A CHRISTIAN HISTORY, TO PROTECT THEIR FAMILY. 26 FAMILY MEMBERS DIED IN THE HOLOCAUST. >> I HAD NO IDEA. AND IT'S ONE THING TO FIND OUT YOU'RE JEWISH, WHICH DOES ADD INTEREST TO AN ALREADY COMPLEX BACKGROUND, BUT ANOTHER TO FIND OUT THAT RELATIVES HAD DIED IN CONCENTRATION CAMPS. REPORTER: IN 2001, SHE LEFT PUBLIC OFFICE IN 2001. BUT HER CONSULTING GROUP REMAINED INFLUENTIAL, AND SHE CONTINUED TO ADVOCATE FOR DEMOCRACY - INCLUDING IN UKRAINE. >> I DO NOT SPEAK FOR MY COUNTRY ANYMORE BUT I DO SPEAK AS CHAIRMAN OF THE NATIONAL DEMOCRATIC INSTITUTE. WE WANT VERY MUCH TO BE IN UKRAINE, TO BE SUPPORTIVE NOT ONLY OF THE ELECTIONS, BUT OF ALL THE WORK THAT IS GOING TO HAVE TO TAKE PLACE AFTERWARDS." REPORTER: SHE ENDORSED SENATOR HILLARY CLINTON IN 2008 AND

AGAIN IN 2016, AFTER CLINTON HAD SERVED IN HER OLD JOB. >> JUST REMEMBER, THERE IS A SPECIAL PLACE IN HELL FOR WOMEN WHO DON'T HELP EACH OTHER. REPORTER: IN 2012, PRESIDENT BARACK OBAMA AWARDED HER THE PRESIDENTIAL MEDAL OF FREEDOM. >> THIS IS ONE OF MY FAVORITE STORIES. ONCE, AT A NATURALIZATION CEREMONY, AN ETHIOPIAN MAN CAME UP TO HER AND SAID, ONLY IN AMERICA CAN A REFUGEE MEET THE SECRETARY OF STATE. AND SHE REPLIED, ONLY IN AMERICA CAN A REFUGEE BECOME THE SECRETARY OF STATE. REPORTER: HER PERSONALITY, ALWAYS LARGER THAN HER FOUR FOOT 11 STATURE. ALWAYS HUMBLE, ALWAYS FUNNY. ALBRIGHT'S FAMILY TODAY CALLED HER A LOVING MOTHER, GRANDMOTHER, SISTER, AUNT, AND FRIEND. MADELEINE ALBRIGHT WAS 84 YEARS OLD. JUDY: JUST MOMENTS AGO, I SPOKE TO FORMER PRESIDENT BILL CLINTON BY PHONE FROM HIS HOME IN NEW YORK. PRESIDENT CLINTON, THANK YOU FOR JOINING US.

WE ARE SORRY FOR YOUR LOSS. WE KNOW THAT YOU AND SECRETARY CLINTON WERE VERY CLOSE TO MADELEINE ALBRIGHT. WHAT ARE YOU REMEMBERING TONIGHT? >> FIRST OF ALL HOW PROUD I WAS OF HER, THE WAY SHE CONDUCTED HERSELF AT THE UNITED NATIONS AND THE STATE DEPARTMENT. SECONDLY, I HAVE BEEN THINKING ABOUT ALL THE MEALS WE HAD AND HOW HONORED I WAS TO GO TO HIS FUNERAL AND HAVE MADELINE SPEAK, NOT ME, BECAUSE SHE COULD STAND UP AND TALK IN A VERY COLD CATHEDRAL AND GIVE A PASSIONATE HOT SPEECH ABOUT HER FRIEND. THEY LOVED THE FACT THAT AN AMERICAN SECRETARY OF STATE WAS -- FROM THE COUNTRY. I WAS TAKING ABOUT TWO YEARS AGO WHEN WE TOOK OUR LAST TRIP TO KOSOVO, CELEBRATING THE 20TH ANNIVERSARY OF THE VICTORY OF

ENDING THE ETHNIC CLEANSING AND THE THREAT TO KOSOVO'S EXISTENCE, WE WALKED IN A PARADE WITH THE KOSOVO OFFICIALS AND WHEN IT ENDED WE WERE IN THE LITTLE PARK WHERE THEY DEDICATED A BEAUTIFUL BUST OF MATALIN IN TRIBUTE -- MADELINE IN TRIBUTE TO THE WORK SHE HAD DONE THERE. I AM SO GRATEFUL THAT HILARY AND I BECAME FRIENDS WITH HER. I MET HER IN 1988 WHEN SHE WAS WORKING ON GOVERNOR DUKAKIS' PRESIDENTIAL CAMPAIGN AND HILLARY BECAME QUITE CLOSE WITH HER. SHE WAS A STRONG SUPPORTER OF HER TO BE SECRETARY OF STATE AND SHE DID A GREAT JOB. JUDY: YOU NAMED HER U.N. AMBASSADOR RICE SHORTLY AFTER YOU WERE ELECTED PRESIDENT AND

FOUR YEARS LATER YOU NAMED HER SECRETARY OF STATE. WHAT WERE THE QUALITIES YOU SAW? SHE WAS THE FIRST WOMAN TO SERVE IN THAT JOB. >> FIRST OF ALL, I THOUGHT SHE REPRESENTED AMERICA'S BEST POSSIBLE FUTURE. SHE WAS AN IMMIGRANT, A REFUGEE, AN AMERICAN CITIZEN. I KNEW SHE WAS A GREAT TEACHER BECAUSE SHE TAUGHT AT MY ALMA MATER GEORGETOWN. SHE WAS VOTED BEST TEACHER IN THE FACULTY BY STUDENTS. I THOUGHT SHE WOULD BE A CLEAR VOICE IN THE UNITED NATIONS FOR THE WORLD WE WERE TRYING TO BUILD. KEEP IN MIND, MY FIRST TERM WAS THE FIRST FULTERM ANY PRESIDENT HAD SERVED SINCE THE END OF THE COLD WAR. FORMER PRESIDENT BUSH HAD MORE THAN HALF OF HIS TIME THERE, TOO. I THOUGHT IT WAS REALLY IMPORTANT THAT WE BUILD

ALLIANCES AND STAND UP FOR FREEDOM BECAUSE JUST BECAUSE THE BERLIN WALL FELL, THE SOVIET UNION BROKE APART, IT DID NOT MEAN THERE WERE NO MORE ENEMIES OF DEMOCRACY AND THE RULE OF LAW . I THOUGHT SHE WAS IMPORTANT. THAT SHE WAS GREAT AT HANDLING THE ISSUES AROUND BOSNIA AND LATER, AS SECRETARY OF STATE, WITH KOSOVO AND MANY OTHER THINGS THAT WE DID, ASIA AND LATIN AMERICA AROUND THE WORLD, PEACE AND FREEDOM AND SECURITY. JUDY: BORN IN CZECHOSLOVAKIA, SHE WAS PART OF EASTERN EUROPE. A WOMAN FOR THAT ERA WITH SO MUCH CHANGE IN THAT PART OF THE WORLD. >> SHE WAS, AND YOU KNOW, SHE INTERFAMILY BASICALLY HAD TO

LEAVE CZECHOSLOVAKIA TWICE. FIRST THEY WERE RUNNING FROM HITLER'S AND THEN THEY WERE RUNNING FROM STALIN. SHE DEVELOPED A KEEN APPRECIATION OF THE IMPORTANCE OF LIBERTY AND THEULE OF LAW. SHE LIVED THE REST OF HER LIFE TRYING TO BRING IT TO EVERYBODY ELSE. JUDY: THAT PART OF THE WORLD RIGHT NOW PRESIDENT CLINTON IS IN TURMOIL AGAIN WITH THE CRISIS IN UKRAINE. I HAVE TO ASK WHAT MORE AT THIS MOMENT DO YOU BELIEVE THE UNITED STATES AND NATO COULD BE DOING TO HELP THE UKRAINIAN PEOPLE, AND WHAT IS IT GOING TO TAKE TO STOP VLADIMIR PUTIN? >> LET US GIVE CREDIT WHERE CREDIT IS DUE. FIRST TO THE UKRAINIANS. THEY HAVE FOUGHT AND FOUGHT AND FOUGHT. RUSSIA CAN DROP MORE BOMBS AND

FIRE MORE MISSILES ON ODESSA, BUT UKRAINIANS FOUGHT LIKE THE DEVIL AND THEY HAVE PUT THE LIE TO THE WHOLE WORLD OF TEUTONS ARGUMENT THAT THEY REALLY -- OF PUTIN'S ARGUMENT THAT THEY REALLY WANT TO BE PART OF RUSSIA. IT IS JUST NOT TRUE. PRESIDENT BIDEN HAS DONE A GOOD JOB OF HELPING UNITE EUROPEANS, UNITE NATO. I SAY THIS WITH ALL RESPECT TO SWITZERLAND. IT IS A RARE OCCURRENCE IN THE LAST 50 YEARS WHEN THE SWISS WALK AWAY FROM THE PRIMACY OF THEIR BANKS IN THEIR POLITICS. JUDY: AGAIN, OUR CONDOLENCES ON THE LOSS OF YOUR AND SECRETARY CLINTON'S GOOD FRIEND MADELEINE ALBRIGHT. >> THANK YOU. SHE WAS A TREASURE FOR ARICA.

JUDY: NOW WITH ME, ONE OF MARYLAND -- MADELEINE ALBRIGHT'S SUCCESSORS, SUSAN RICE, DIRECTOR OF PRESIDENT BIDEN'S DOMESTIC POLICY COUNCIL. SUSAN RICE, THANK YOU SO MUCH FOR JOINING ME. WE ARE SORRY FOR YOUR LOSS. TELL US ABOUT YOUR CONNECTION TO HER. SHE KNEW YOUR FAMILY FROM THE TIME YOU WERE A LITTLE GIRL. >> YES, JUDY, THANK YOU FOR THOSE KIND WORDS. I WAS PRIVILEGED TO KNOW MADELEINE ALBRIGHT FROM THE TIME I WAS FOUR YEARS OLD. MY MOM AND SHE WERE FRIENDS AND I GREW UP WITH HER DAUGHTERS. LONG BEFORE SHE WAS MY BOSS, SHE WAS A ROLE MODEL. AS A PROFESSIONAL WOMAN IN THE FIELD I ENDED UP JOINING, NATIONAL SECURITY. SHE WAS ALSO JUST A REGULAR, WARM, KIND, SUPPORTIVE MOTHER AND FRIEND.

AND THERE IS NOT A SINGLE PROFESSIONAL DECISION I MADE -- THAT I HAVE MADE THUS FAR IN MY LIFE WITHOUT THE BENEFIT OF HER ADVICE AND WISDOM. WE HAVE HEARD SO MUCH FROM PRESIDENT CLINTON AND IN YOUR PACKAGE ABOUT HER EXTRAORDINARY ACCOMPLISHMENTS AS A DIPLOMAT, AS A SCHOLAR, A TEACHER, A CHAMPION OF DEMOCRACY AND HUMAN RIGHTS, THE ONE THING I REALLY WANT TO STRESS IS WHAT AN INCREDIBLE MENTOR SHE WAS TO SO MANY, NOT JUST ME, BUT ALL OF THE STUDENTS AT GEORGETOWN, ALTHOUGH MANY PEOPLE IN FOREIGN POLICY AND NATIONAL SECURITY WHO LOOKED UP TO HER AND HAD THE BENEFIT OF HER WISDOM AND SUPPORT. ESPECIALLY TO YOUNG WOMEN. SHE FORMED THE ALBRIGHT INSTITUTE FOR GLOBAL AFFAIRS AT HER ALMA MATER, WELLESLEY COLLEGE, WHERE HER AIM WAS TO LIFT UP AND SUPPORT THE NEXT GENERATION OF WOMEN.

THAT WAS ONE OF THE MANY IMPORTANT AND UNIQUE ASPECTS OF HER. JUDY: I SAW FIRSTHAND HOW MUCH SHE CARED ABOUT BRINGING ALONG OTHER WOMEN. HOW MUCH DO YOU THINK HER BACKGROUND, GROWING UP IN CZECHOSLOVAKIA, ESCAPING US PRESIDENT CLINTON SAID TWICE FROM THE NAZIS, SHE WAS AFFECTED BY THE SOVIET UNION, HOW MUCH OF THAT BACKGROUND -- HOW MUCH DID THAT BACKGROUND SHAPER AND DRIVE HER? >> SHE WAS PROUD TO BE A REFUGEE AND DEEPLY PROUD OF BEING AN AMERICAN. SHE KNEW FIRSTHAND HOW BRUTAL AUTOCRACY WAS AND IS. SHE WAS SO PASSIONATE ABOUT DEMOCRACY, SO PASSIONATE ABOUT HUMAN RIGHTS. HER LEADERSHIP WITH THE NATIONAL DEMOCRATIC INSTITUTE WHERE I WAS PROUD TO SERVE WITH HER ON THE BOARD FOR A PERIOD OF TIME, HER WRITINGS ON FASCISM AND THE THREAT THAT IT POSES, HER TEACHINGS TO HER STUDENTS ABOUT THE IMPORTANCE OF WESTERN VALUES AND WESTERN COHESION AND NATO

AND OUR ALLIANCE STRUCTURE, THESE WERE ALL PRODUCTS OF HER PERSONAL EXPERIENCE AS WELL AS HER SCHOLARSHIP INTERPROFESSIONAL EXPERIENCE. JUDY: WHAT DO YOU THINK WAS THE SECRET SAUCE, IF YOU WILL? YOU ARE RIGHT, SHE WAS A MENTOR. SHE WAS A GREAT DIPLOMAT, INTELLECTUAL. WHAT PUT IT ALL TOGETHER? >> SHE HAD AN EXTRAORDINARY SENSE OF HUMOR AND A PLAYFUL SENSE OF FUN. I HOPE SOMEBODY WILL PLAY THE TAPE WHEN SHE DID THE MAC ARENA IN THE SECURITY COUNCIL. THAT WAS A SIDE OF HER THAT WAS VERY GENUINE. SHE HAD A SHARP WIT AT TIMES, BUT ALWAYS WARM, ALWAYS CARING. SHE BROUGHT IT ALL TOGETHER. SHE REALLY TRULY WAS THE CONSUMMATE PROFESSIONAL AND

MOTHER AND DID THEM BOTH SIMULTANEOUSLY. THAT WAS SORT OF INDICATIVE OF WHO SHE IS. HER HARD SIDE AND SOFT SIDE BLENDED PERFECTLY. >> I HAVE HEARD PEOPLE DESCRIBE HER AS NOT ONLY A TALENTED DIPLOMAT, BUT AN INDOOR POLITICIAN. THE WAY SHE COULD WORK PEOPLE. HOW DID YOU SEE THAT? >> IT IS NOT A SURPRISE SHE WAS OUR FIRST WOMAN SECRETARY OF STATE. SHE WAS WELL-POSITIONED TO DO THAT COMING OUT OF THE U.N., BUT SHE WAS A POLITICIAN. I SHOULD NOT SAY SHE WAS A POLITICIAN. SHE HAD POLITICAL SKILLS, WELL-CRAFTED POLITICAL SKILLS. WHEN SHE LEFT OFFICE, SHE FORMED A GROUP SHE CALLED MADELINE AND HER EXES. THESE WERE OFFICERS SHE HAD WORKED WITH THAT SHE HAD FORMED CLOSE RELATIONSHIPS WITH WHILE SHE WAS AMBASSADOR AND SECRETARY

OF STATE. THEY MAINTAINED A NETWORK THAT STAYED VERY CLOSE AND DID IMPORTANT POLICY WORK TOGETHER AND INFLUENCE THE DECISION-MAKING IN THEIR RESPECTIVE CAPITALS. SHE DID KNOW HOW TO NETWORK, SHE DID KNOW HOW TO BRING PEOPLE ALONG, BRING PEOPLE TOGETHER. EVEN THOUGH SHE WAS CLEARLY A COMMITTED DEMOCRAT, SHE WORKED ACROSS THE AISLE, SHE HAD CLOSE RELATIONSHIPS ON A BIPARTISAN BASIS. ALL OF HER PROFESSIONAL LIFE. SHE PRIDED HERSELF ON THAT. SHE REALLY WAS THE WHOLE PACKAGE AND WE WILL ALL MISS HER. JUDY: FOR SURE AND I HAVE BEEN WATCHING THE OUTPOURING OF STATEMENTS ACROSS THE POLITICAL SPECTRUM FROM THE CHAMBER OF COMMERCE TO MEMBERS OF CONGRESS FROM BOTH SIDES OF THE AISLE. SUSAN RICE, THANK YOU FOR JOINING US ON THIS RAINY NIGHT AT THE WHITE HOUSE. THANK YOU AND WE ARE SORRY FOR YOUR LOSS.

>> THANK YOU, JUDY. VANESSA: I'M VANESSA RUIZ IN FOR STEPHANIE SY WITH NEWSHOUR WEST. WE'LL RETURN TO THE FULL PROGRAM AFTER THE LATEST HEADLINES. FEDERAL JUDGE KETANJI BROWN JACKSON HAS PLEDGED TO HAVE NO AGENDAS . IF SHE BECOMES THE FIRST BLACK WOMAN ON THE U.S. SUPREME COURT. SHE FACED A SECOND DAY OF QUESTIONING BY THE U.S. SENATE JUDICIARY COMMITTEE. REPUBLICANS AGAIN PAINTED HER AS SOFT ON CRIME, WHILE DEMOCRATS DEFENDED HER. WE'LL RETURN TO THIS, AFTER THE NEWS SUMMARY. THE NEW ORLEANS AREA HAS SPENT THIS DAY RECOVERING FROM TORNADOES THAT RIPPED THROUGH OVERNIGHT. ONE PERSON WAS KILLED, AND THE GOVERNOR DECLARED EMERGENCIES IN FOUR PARISHES. COMMUNITY CORRESPONDENT ROBY CHAVEZ HAS THE STORY FROM NEW ORLEANS. REPORTER: OVERTURNED VEHICLES, DOWNED POWER LINES AND

STREETLIGHTS, HOMES COMPLETELY DESTROYED. THIS IS THE DEVASTATION LEFT BEHIND AFTER A TORNADO TORE THROUGH THE LOWER 9TH WARD IN NEW ORLEANS AND SURROUNDING AREAS TUESDAY NIGHT. >> I WOULD SAY ALMOST WORSE THAN A HURRICANE. IT WAS DEFINITELY TRAUMATIC. WE HURRY UP AND GOT IN THE BATHROOM AND THEN THE TOWEL IN THE BATHROOM FELL ON US. SO YEAH, IT WAS PRETTY TRAUMATIC EXPERIENCE. REPORTER: NEW ORLEA MAYOR LATOYA CANTRELL SPOKE TO REPORTERS TODAY. >> WE ARE DECLARING, AND THAT'S BEING PREPARED RIGHT NOW FOR MY SIGNATURE, A STATE OF EMERGENCY TO ENABLE ACCESS TO ANY FEDERAL RESOURCES THAT WE WILL BE ELIGIBLE FOR. REPO:NTS LIKE DEVIN IN THE HARDEST HIT AREA OF ST. BERNARD PARISH JUST FIVE MILES FROM THE FRENCH QUARTER ARE LEFT WITH PILES OF DEBRIS. THE STORM HIT IN AN AREA BATTERED BY UNUSUALLY STRONG STORMS, INCLUDING HURRICANE IDA AND A POWERFUL TORNADO IN 2017. THE INTENSE WEATHER HAS STUNNED RESIDENTS IN THIS WORKING-CLASS COMMUNITY, WHICH STILL HASN'T

FULLY RECOVERED FROM HURRICANE KATRINA. THAT IS WHEN 68,000 RESIDENTS WERE LEFT HOMELESS LOUISIANA HAS ACTIVATED HUNDREDS OF NATIONAL GUARD PERSONNEL TO CLEAR UP ROADWAYS AND ASSIST IN LOCAL SEARCH EFFORTS TO ENSURE NO ONE IS LEFT UNACCOUNTED FOR. THE STORM HIT LOUISIANA AFTER MORE THAN A DOZEN TORNADOES ROARED ACROSS CENTRAL TEXAS EARLIER TH WEEK, PROMPTING RESIDENTS TO QUICKLY SEEK SHELTER AT THIS WALMART IN ROUND ROCK, JUST OUTSIDE AUSTIN. NEAR THE OKLAHOMA BORDER, A 73-YEAR-OLD WOMAN WAS KILLED AS TWISTERS CONTINUED WREAKING HAVOC ACROSS THE DEEP SOUTH. AS THE STORM MOVED THROUGH ALABAMA OVERNIGHT, SIGNIFICANT DAMAGE WAS REPORTED JUST SOUTH OF TUSCALOOSA AND AT MISSISSIPPI STATE UNIVERSITY, IN STARKVILLE, SEVERAL CARS ON CAMPUS WERE CRUSHED FALLING TREES. EZ, N ORLEA.EWSHOUR, IM ROBY >> WASHINGTON GOVERNOR JAY INSLEE SIGNED A LAW BANNING THE

SALE AND MANUFACTURING OF FIREARM MAGAZINES THAT HOLD MORE THAN 10 ROUNDS OF AMMUNITION. CURRENT OWNERS OF HIGH-CAPACITY MAGAZINES WILL BE ALLOWED TO KEEP THEIRS. WASHINGTON BECOMES THE 10TH STATE TO BAN OR LIMIT HIGH-CAPACITY MAGAZINES. THE LAW GOES INTO EFFECT JULY 1. NOW ONTO THE PANDEMIC. MODERNA SAYS ITS VACCINE PROVED EFFECTIVE IN CHILDREN YOUNGER THAN SIX IN EARLY FINDINGS FROM A NEW STUDY. THE COMPANY SAYS IT WILL SOON SEEK EMERGENCY AUTHORIZATION FOR TWO SMALL DOSE SHOTS. SOME 18 MILLION CHILDREN WLLL BE ELIGIBLE, AND WHITE HOUSE OFFICIALS SAY THERE ARE PLENTY OF SHOTS AVAILABLE. >> WE WILL BE READY OPERATIONALLY IF AND WHEN THE VACCINE IS AUTHORIZED AND RECOMMENDED AND WE WILL HAVE THOSE VACCINATIONS AVAILABLE AT TENS OF THOUSANDS OF LOCATIONS ACROSS THE COUNTRY THAT PARENTS KNOW AND TRUST. ALSO TODAY THE WORLD HEALTH ORGANIZATION REPORTED AN INCREASE IN GLOBAL INFECTIONS

FOR A SECOND STRAIGHT WEEK. IDAHO HAS BECOME THE FIRST STATE TO FOLLOW TEXAS IN BANNING ABORTIONS AFTER SIX WEEKS OF PREGNANCY AND LIGHTING CITIZEN LAWSUITS ENFORCE IT. THE REPUBLICAN GOVERNOR SIGNED THE MEASURE TODAY BUT HE SAID HE DOUBTS THE ENFORCEMENT MECHANISM WILL PROVE CONSTITUTIONAL. THE TEXAS LAW REMAINS IN FORCE, PENDING A COURT CHALLENGE. IN SOUTHERN CHINA, INVESTIGATORS THINK THEY'VE FOUND THE COCKPIT FLIGHT RECORDER FROM MONDAY'S AIRLINER CRASH THAT KILLED 132 PEOPLE. STATE TV TODAY SHOWED WORKERS AT THE WRECKAGE SITE PLACING THE ORANGE COLORED DEVICE INTO A BAG. OFFICIALS SAID DESPITE BEING BADLY DAMAGED, IT COULD PROVIDE KEY CLUES TO WHAT HAPPENED. >> AT THE SCENE, INVESTIGATORS CONDUCTED A PRELIMINARY INSPECTION OF THE RECORDER. THE APPEARANCE OF THE RECORDER WAS SEVERELY DAMAGED, AND THE STORAGE UNIT WAS ALSO DAMAGED TO A CERTAIN EXTENT, BUT IT WAS RELATIVELY COMPLETE." VANESSA: OFFICIALS ALSO SAY THEY FOUND HUMAN REMAINS. WORK WAS INTERRUPTED BY RAIN

THAT COULD CAUSE LANDSLIDES. HUMAN RIGHTS WATCH ACCUSED ARMED ATTACKERS IN IRAQ TODAY OF BRUTALIZING LESBIAN, GAY, BISEXUAL, AND TRANSGENDER PEOPLE. THE GROUP REPORTED WIDESPREAD KIDNAPPING, TORTURE AND MURDER. ONE TRANSGENDER WOMAN TOLD OF BEING ASSAULTED WITH RAZOR BLADES AND SCREWDRIVERS, THEN SET ON FIRE. THE REPORT ACCUSED POLICE OF DOING NOTHING OR EVEN CONTRIBUTING TO THE VIOLENCE. TALIBAN LEADERS IN AFGHANISTAN HAVE RULED THAT GIRLS WILL NOT ATTEND SCHOOL BEYOND THE SIXTH GRADE. THE POLICY REVERSAL WAS CONFIRMED TODAY. IT COULD SPARK AN INTERNATIONAL BACKLASH AT A TIME WHEN THE TALIBAN ARE URGENTLY SEEKING HUMANITARIAN AID. A U.S. DIPLOMAT IN MOSCOW VISITED AMERICAN BASKETBALL STAR BRITTNEY GRINER IN A RUSSIAN JAIL TODAY. THE STATE DEPARTMENT SAYS SHE APPEARED TO BE IN GOOD CONDITION. GRINER HAS BEEN HELD SINCE MID-FEBRUARY ON AN ALLEGED DRUG

VIOLATION THAT COULD MEAN 10 YEARS IN A RUSSIAN PRISON. STILL TO COME ON THE "NEWSHOUR". SUPREME COURT NOMINEE KETANJI BROWN JACKSON AGAIN FACES QUESTIONS FROM THE SENATE JUDICIARY COMMITTEE. AND THE PANDEMIC LEADS TO A DRAMATIC RISE IN ALCOHOL-RELATED DEATHS. >> THIS IS THE PBS NEWSHOUR FROM W ETA STUDIOS IN WASHINGTON AND THE WALTER CRONKITE SCHOOL OF JOURNALISM AT ARIZONA STATE UNIVERSITY. JUDY: TODAY WAS THE FINAL CHANCE FOR SENATORS TO QUESTION FEDERAL JUDGE KETANJI BROWN JACKSON IN FRONT OF CAMERAS. AS JOHN YANG REPORTS, REPUBLICANS CONTINUED THEIR ATTACKS WHILE DEMOCRATS DEFENDED HER RECORD. REPORTER: THE FINAL DAY OF SUPREME COURT NOMINEE KETANJI BROWN JACKSON'S TESTIMONY WAS MARKED BY MORE HEATED QUESTIONING FROM COMMITTEE REPUBLICANS ON SENTENCES SHE GAVE TO CHILD PORNOGRAPHY OFFENDERS. TEXAS SENATOR TED CRUZ. >> LOOKING AT YOUR CASES, AND I HAVE NOW EXAMINED ALL OF THE CHILD PORN CASES YOU'VE HAD AS A FEDERAL DISTRICT JUDGE, THERE IS A VERY CONSISTENT PATTERN. >> SENATOR, I HAVE SAID WHAT I

AM GOING TO SAY ABOUT THESE CASES. NO ONE CASE CAN STAND IN FOR A JUDGE'S ENTIRE RECORD. >> I'M DISCUSSING EVERYONE OF THESE CASES SO IF YOU ARE NOT GOING TO EXPLAIN IT -- >> SENATOR, WOULD YOU PLEASE LET HER RESPOND? >> NO NOT IF SHE'S NOT GOING TO ANSWER MY QUESTION. REPORTER: SOUTH CAROLINA SENATOR LINDSEY GRAHAM. >> YOU THINK IT IS A BIGGER DETERRENT TO TAKE SOMEBODY WHO IS ON A COMPUTER LOOKING AT SEXUAL IMAGES OF CHILDREN, IN THE MOST DISGUSTING WAY, IS TO SUPERVISE THEIR COMPUTER HABITS VERSUS PUTTING THEM IN JAIL? >> NO SENATOR I DID NOT SAY VERSUS. REPORTER: JACKSON FIELDED QUESTIONS FROM COMMITTEE REPUBLICANS ON OTHER ISSUES LIKE ABORTION AND COURT PACKING. >> SO THERE IS NO SUGGESTION THAT AFTER 20 WEEKS THAT A CHILD CAN LIVE INDEPENDENTLY CORRECT? >> SENATOR, I AM NOT A BIOLOGIST. I HAVE NOT STUDIED THIS. I DO NOT KNOW. >> YOU DON'T KNOW WHETHER AN

UNBORN CHILD CAN LIVE OUTSIDE THE WOMB AT 20 WEEKS GESTATION? >> WHAT I KNOW IS THAT THE SUPREME COURT HAS TESTS AND STANDARDS THAT IT'S APPLIED WHEN IT EVALUATES REGULATION OF THE RIGHT OF A WOMAN TO TERMINATE THEIR PREGNANCY. THE COURT HAS ANNOUNCED THERE IS A RIGHT TO TERMINATE UP TO THE POINT OF VIABILITY SUBJECT TO THE FRAMEWORK IN ROE AND CASEY AND THERE IS A PENDING CASE RIGHT NOW THAT IS ADDRESSING THESE ISSUES. >> YOU ACKNOWLEDGED YOU HAVE AN OPINION, DID I UNDERSTAND THAT RIGHT, YOU HAVE AN OPINION ON COURT PACKING? >> I AM A HUMAN BEING AND I HAVE OPINIONS ON A LOT OF THINGS. I UNDERSTAND THAT IT'S A POLITICAL QUESTION AND THAT IS PRECISELY WHY I THINK THAT I AM UNCOMFORTABLE SPEAKING TO IT. REPORTER: DEMOCRATS SOUGHT TO PAINT JACKSON AS A FAIR-MINDED, HIGHLY-QUALIFIED NOMINEE. AS THE FIRST BLACK WOMAN NOMINATED TO THE SUPREME COURT, JACKSON ALSO SPOKE OF HOW FAR THE COUNTRY HAS COME ON CIVIL

RIGHTS. >> MY PARENTS GREW UP IN FLORIDA UNDER LAWFUL SEGREGATION AND I DO CONSIDER MYSELF HAVING BEEN BORN IN 1970 TO BE THE FIRST GENERATION TO BENEFIT FROM THE CIVIL RIGHTS MOVEMENT, FROM THE LEGACY OF ALL THE WORK OF SO MANY PEOPLE THAT WENT INTO CHANGING THE LAWS IN THIS COUNTRY SO THAT PEOPLE LIKE ME COULD HAVE AN OPPORTUNITY TO BE SITTING HERE BEFORE YOU TODAY. REPORTER: SHE TALKED ABOUT WHAT SHE WOULD BRING TO THE HIGH COURT. >> WHAT I WOULD HOPE TO BRING TO THE SUPREME COURT IS VERY SIMILAR TO WHAT 115 OTHER JUSTICES HAVE BROUGHT, WHICH IS THEIR LIFE EXPIENCES, THEIR PERSPECTIVES. MINE INCLUDE BEING A TRIAL

JUDGE, BEING AN APPELLATE JUDGE, BEING A PUBLIC DEFENDER, BEING A MEMBER OF THE SENTENCING COMMISSION. IN ADDITION TO MY BEING A BLACK WOMAN, LUCKY INHERITOR OF THE CIVIL RIGHTS DREAM. REPORTER: TOMORROW THE COMMITTEE WILL HEAR FROM LEGAL EXPERTS BEFORE THEY VOTE ON SENDING JACKSON'S NOMINATION TO THE SENATE FLOOR. JUDY: FOR MORE ON THIS I'M JOINED BY MARCIA COYLE OF THE NATIONAL LAW JOURNAL AND OUR LISA DESJARDINS, WHO JOINS ME FROM THE CAPITOL. YOU HAVE BEEN WATCHING THIS ALL DAY LONG AND THIS IS THE THIRD DAY. AS WE JUST SAW, FACING VERY CHALLENGING QUESTIONS, ESPECIALLY FROM REPUBLICAN MEMBERS ON THE COMMITTEE. HOW IS SHE DOING OVERALL? MARCIA: SHE IS HOLDING HER OWN WITHOUT A DOUBT AND SHE SHOWS ENORMOUS PATIENTS. -- PATIENCE.

FOR A FEW SENATORS ON THE REPUBLICAN SIDE THERE WAS A NOTICEABLE CHANGE IN TONE. ESPECIALLY ON HER RULINGS AGAIN IN THE AREA OF CHILD PORNOGRAPHY CASES, WITH SENATOR GRAHAM GOING A STEP FURTHER AND TALKING ABOUT ONE OF HER IMMIGRATION OPINIONS AND ACCUSING HER OF BEING EXHIBIT A FOR JUDICIAL ACTIVISM BECAUSE SHE DISAGREED WITH THE TRUMP ADMINISTRATION IN THAT CASE. I THOUGHT IT WAS HARSHER AND I GOT THE SENSE THEY WERE NOT LISTENING TO HER. SENATOR GRAHAM CUT HER OFF REPEATEDLY AS SHE TRIED TO EXPLAIN HER SENTENCING OF THE CHILD PORNOGRAPHY DEFENDANTS. I THINK SENATOR DURBIN HAD TO INTERVENE AND SAY LET HER ANSWER THE QUESTIONS. MY SENSE WAS THEY WANT TO MAKE THEIR POINTS NOW, THIS IS THE FINAL CHANCE TO DO IT, FOR THEIR BASE OR FOR TV OR WHATEVER. BUT SHE WAS VERY PATIENT.

JUDY: WE DID SEE THIS AFTERNOON THERE WAS THIS BACK-AND-FORTH WITH CHAIRMAN DICK DURBIN AND THE REPUBLICANS OVER DOCUMENTS. TELL US WHAT THAT WAS ABOUT. LISA: 10 REPUBLICANS ON THIS COMMITTEE LED BY SENATOR TED CRUZ ARE REQUESTING ACCESS TO THE PRESENTENCING REPORTS ESPECIALLY IN THE CASES INVOLVING CHILD PORNOGRAPHY. SENATOR DURBIN'S INITIAL REACTION WAS ALMOST A FLAT NO. HE SAID HE IS CONCERNED ABOUT THE MANY PEOPLE MENTIONED IN THOSE REPORTS INCLUDING VICTIMS, INCLUDING INNOCENT THIRD PARTIES , THAT A LOT OF DAMAGE CAN BE DONE TO MANY PEOPLE BUY THOSE REPORTS BEING DISSEMINATED IN ANY WAY. REPUBLICANS SAY THEY WILL TAKE A REDACTED REPORT, IN ANY FORM THEY CAN. RIGHT NOW THE CONFERENCES WILL MEET AND DISCUSS IF THOSE REPORTS WILL COME THROUGH ARE NOT. THAT IS SOMETHING THAT HAS NEVER HAPPENED BEFORE. IT IS RARE TO HAVE A TRIAL JUDGE

UP FOR THE SUPREME COURT AT ALL. IT SPEAKS TO THE TENSION. IF THESE REPORTS WERE TO COME OUT IT WOULD DELAY THE CONFIRMATION. I JUST THINK DEMOCRATS ARE GOING TO BE VERY RELUCTANT TO HAVE THIS HAPPEN FOR A NUMBER OF REASONS. JUDY: THIS REMINDS US, AND AGAIN, WE SAW IT EARLIER. SO MANY QUESTIONS ABOUT THE WORK SHE DID AS A TRIAL JUDGE AND SENTENCING. FOR CHILD EXPORTATION. DO WE HAVE A BETTER UNDERSTANDING? MARCIA: I THINK SHE HAS TRIED -- IT WOULD BE VERY DIFFICULT TO GO BACK OVER HER TESTIMONY BEGINNING YESTERDAY OR TODAY. SHE DID EXPLAIN HOW SHE SENTENCES AND THAT IT IS ALL THERE, BUT IT WAS NOT SATISFACTORY TO THOSE WHO WERE QUESTIONING HER. WE CALLED IN ONE OF THE QUESTIONERS, I DON'T KNOW IF IT WAS SENATOR GRAMMER SENATOR CRUZ, WHO ASKED IF SHE DID NOT REGRET -- I THINK WAS SENATOR HAWLEY. DID SHE REGRET GIVING THREE

MONTHS TO ONE DEFENDANT. SHE SAID WHAT SHE REGRETTED WAS THAT SO MUCH ATTENTION HAS BEEN PAID TO A SUBSET, A SMALL SUBSET OF OVER 500 OF HER OPINIONS. THAT IS THE ONLY TIME I SAW HER FEELING A LITTLE EXASPERATED THAT THIS WAS CONTINUING AFTER SHE HAD ANSWERED SO MANY TIMES. JUDY: DEMOCRATS POINTING OUT THAT 80% OF JUDGES HANDED OUT THE SAME KIND OF SENTENCES. IT STILL LOOKS AS IF SHE IS ON TRACK FOR CONFIRMATION? >> THAT'S RIGHT, AND I WANT TO SHOW THE FACES OF SIX SENATORS WE ARE WATCHING. SENATOR JOE MANCHIN ALWAYS A CRITICAL VOTE. HE HAS NOT SAID HE IS A YES BUT HE HAS HAD POSITIVE THINGS TO SAY. DEMOCRATS ABSOLUTELY NEED HIM. THERE ARE FIVE REPUBLICANS WE ARE WATCHING FOR DIFFERENT REASONS. TODAY WAS A TOUGH DAY. WE WILL BE WATCHING TO SEE HOW THAT AFFECTED SOME OF THESE REPUBLICANS. SOME OF THEM MAY N LIKE THE TACTICS THEIR FELLOW REPUBLICANS WERE USING.

SOME OF THEM MAY HAVE OTHER CONCERNS THAT ARE NOT IMPACTED BY THESE HEARINGS ONE WAY OR THE OTHER. JUDY: A LOT TO UNFOLD HERE. WE THANK YOU BOTH. FOR MORE INSIGHT ON TODAY'S HEARING, I AM JOINED BY SAIKRISHNA PRAKASH. HE'S A LAW PROFESSOR AT THE UNIVERSITY OF VIRGINIA AND A FORMER CLERK TO JUSTICE CLARENCE THOMAS. AND MELODY BARNES, SHE IS THE EXECUTIVE DIRECTOR OF THE KARSH INSTITUTE OF DEMOCRACY AT THE UNIVERSITY OF VIRGINIA. SHE PREVIOUSLY SERVED IN THE OBAMA ADMINISTRATION AS DIRECTOR OF THE WHITE HOUSE DOMESTIC POLICY COUNCIL AND AS CHIEF COUNSEL TO SENATOR TED KENNEDY ON THE JUDICIARY COMMITTEE. WE ARE WELCOMING BOTH OF YOU BACK TO THE NEWSHOUR. YOU HEARD BOTH LISA AND MARSHA SAYING HOW AGGRESSIVE THE QUESTIONING WAS TODAY FROM REPUBLICANS. SO MUCH OF IT CENTERED ON JUDGE JACKSON'S SENTENCING AROUND CHILD EXPLICATION.

WHAT IS GOING ON HERE DO YOU THINK? SAIKRISHNA: I THINK REPUBLICANS ARE TRYING TO USE THE MEME OF DEMOCRATS BEING SOFT ON CRIME, SPEAKING TO THEIR CONSTITUENTS. THEY ARE FOCUSED ON AN ISSUE THAT THEY THINK GIVES THEM -- THEY KNOW THE NOMINATION IS GOING THROUGH AND THEY DECIDED TO SPEAK TO THE BASE. JUDY: YOU SAID FOR POLITICAL MILEAGE? SAIKRISHNA: YES, I THINK AS YOU SAID, THESE HEARINGS ARE NOT ONLY ABOUT TRYING TO FIND OUT ABOUT THE NOMINEE. THEY ARE ABOUT POLITICIANS USING THE PLATFORM THEY ARE ON TO ADVANCE THEIR CAREERS. BOTH SIDES ARE DOING THIS IN VARIOUS WAYS. THEY KNOW THE ATTENTION OF THE NATION IS UPON THEM AND THEY ARE GOING TO USE THAT TIME FOR THEIR PURPOSES. PERHAPS SECONDARILY FOR THE PURPOSES OF THE NATION. JUDY: TO WHAT EXTENT IS ALL OF THIS CUTTING INTO THE IMPRESSION THAT THE NOMINEE ON THE WHITE

HOUSE WANT TO LEAVE WITH THE PUBLIC ABOUT WHO SHE IS? MELODY: I THINK THAT IS A GREAT QUESTION. I COMPLETELY AGREE ABOUT WHAT IS GOING ON HERE, AND IN FACT THERE IS A TERM SOME FRIENDS OF MINE USE. THEY ARE QUESTIONS THAT ARE REALLY STATEMENTS BEING MADE AND WAYS THE REPUBLICANS ARE TRYING TO DRAW A PICTURE OF JUDGE BROWN JACKSON. BUT I THINK OVERALL SHE IS MAKING HER POINTS AND SHE IS DOING SO IN A WAY THAT DEMONSTRATES THE KIND OF JUDICIAL TEMPERAMENT THAT HER FORMER COLLEAGUES AND PEERS IN THE WHITE HOUSE HAVE SAID IS NATURAL FOR HER AND IS WHAT YOU WOULD WANT FROM A SUPREME COURT JUSTICE. I THINK SHE IS MANAGING THIS QUITE WELL. I DO THINK THAT LISA WAS POINTING TO THOSE SENATORS WE ARE LOOKING AT, BUT THERE IS A

QUESTION ABOUT HOW SOME OF THIS IS AFFECTING THEM. CERTAINLY AS WE LOOK AT SENATOR GRAHAM WHO WAS A SUPPORTER OF HERS WHEN SHE WAS NOMINATED. JUDY: SOUNDS VERY MUCH LIKE SHE WILL NOT BE A SUPPORTER THIS TIME. WE DO NOT KNOW UNTIL HE CAST HIS VOTE. DO WE COME AWAY WITH A BETTER -- GIVEN ALL THE NOISE THAT WE HAVE JUST BEEN TALKING ABOUT, DO WE COME AWAY WITH A BETTER SENSE OF WHO SHE IS AND WHAT KIND OF JUSTICE SHE WILL BE IF SHE IS CONFIRMED? SAIKRISHNA: I THINK SO. WE HAVE MET A REMARKABLE PERSON. MANY OF US DID NOT KNOW MUCH ABOUT HER. A VERY POISED PERSON, A VERY JUDICIOUS PERSON. A PERSON WHO IS OPEN TO MORE CONSERVATIVE APPROACHES TO THE LAW LIKE ORIGINALISM. I THINK MANY PEOPLE ON THE RIGHT ARE SURPRISED BY SOME OF THE THINGS SHE HAS SAID THAT SUGGESTS A MORE LIMITED JUDICIAL CONCEPTION THAN PEOPLE ON THE LEFT MIGHT HAVE SUPPOSED SHE

REPRESENTED. JUDY: FLESH THAT OUT FOR US. WHAT MORE DO YOU THINK PEOPLE WOULD HAVE LIKED TO HEAR, WOULD HAVE LIKED TO HEAR HER QUESTIONED ABOUT THAT WOULD HAVE HELPED OR HURT HER? SAIKRISHNA: AS I SAID YESTERDAY, I THINK MORE FOCUS ON JUDICIAL PHILOSOPHY, LESS ON INDIVIDUAL CASES. THERE IS NO ONE ON EARTH WHO HAS NOT ISSUED AN OPINION OR SAID SOMETHING THEY DISAGREE WITH LATER ON. THE FACT SHE MIGHT HAVE COME TO A DIFFERENT CONCLUSION TODAY THAN SHE DID IN THE PAST IS JUST NOT IN CORRESPONDENCE TO WHETHER SHE SHOULD BE CONFIRMED BY THE SENATE. THERE IS A GOTCHA GAME GOING ON THE DOES NOT HAVE TO DO WITH WHETHER SHE SHOULD BE ON THE SUPREME COURT. PROBING HER VIEWS ON JUDICIAL PHILOSOPHY, WHAT SHE CALLED METHODOLOGY, WOULD HAVE BEEN A MORE USEFUL USE OF THEIR TIME. JUDY: SO MUCH ATTENTION PLACED ON THE FACT THIS -- SHE WOULD BE

THE FIRST BLACK WOMAN TO SERVE ON THE COURT. HOW MUCH HAS RACE PLAYED A ROLE IN THESE HEARINGS, IF AT ALL? MELODY: IT HAS ABSOLUTELY PLAYED A ROLE. THE WHITE HOUSE, WHEN SHE WAS ANNOUNCED DURING THE CAMPAIGN, THAT CANDIDATE BIDEN MADE IT CLEAR HE WANTED TO PUT FORWARD AN AFRICAN-AMERICAN WOMAN, THAT FIRMLY PUT IT ON THE TABLE AND I THINK THE ARGUMENT IS THERE ARE 115 PEOPLE WHO HAVE SAT ON THE SUPREME COURT AND ONLY TWO AFRICAN-AMERICANS, NO AFRICAN-AMERICAN WOMEN. YOU CANNOT BELIEVE IN 200 YEARS THERE HAVE BEEN NO AFRICAN-AMERICAN WOMEN WHO WERE QUALIFIED TO SIT ON THIS COURT. SO THIS IS PUTTING SOMEONE ON THE COURT WHO DESERVES TO BE THERE WHO HAS EVERY QUALIFICATION TO BE THERE AND STARTS TO BRING GREATER DIVERSITY TO THE COURT. BUT AT THE SAME TIME THERE ARE OTHER ISSUES AT PLAY. THEY WERE TALKING EARLIER AND I THINK MARCIA COYLE WAS TALKING

ABOUT THE SOFT ON CRIME NARRATIVE AND THAT IS A 60-YEAR-OLD NARRATIVE THAT NOT ONLY ATTACHES TO LIBERALS AND DEMOCRATS, BUT IT IS ONE PEOPLE TRY TO ATTACH TO AFRICAN-AMERICANS AS WELL. SO I THINK THAT CERTAINLY IS AYING OUT HERE AND CERTAINLY THE JANICE ROGERS BROWN NOMINATION AND THE GRIEVANCE, THAT SHE WOULD HAVE BEEN, SO THEY SAY, A NOMINEE TO THE SUPREME COURT AND THE FIRST AFRICAN-AMERICAN WOMAN NOMINATED, BUT SHE WAS DENIED THAT. BUT ALSO THIS IS NOT JUST ONE NOMINEE, THIS IS ABOUT THE JUDICIAL PHILOSOPHY THAT WOULD PLAY OUT AND HOW IT WOULD IMPACT ALL OF THE COUNTRY. THERE ARE A LOT OF DIFFERENT THREADS. JUDY: YOU ARE MENTIONING A CONSERVATIVE NOMINEE IN THE 1990'S, IT WAS FILIBUSTERED BUT SHE WAS EVENTUALLY CONFIRMED. VERY QUICKLY, YOUR SENSE IS THAT

SHE IS CONFIRMED. YOU DO NOT SEE ANYTHING STANDING IN THE WAY? SAIKRISHNA: SHE WILL BE CONFIRMED AND THE PRESIDENT WILL APPOINT HER. THE ONLY QUESTION IS HOW MANY REPUBLICAN VOTES SHE WILL GET. I THINK SHE SHOULD GET MORE THAN SHE IS LIKELY TO GET. JUDY: THANK YOU BOTH. WE APPRECIATE IT. YOU CAN WATCH THE FINAL DAY OF THE JACKSON HEARINGS TOMORROW AT 9:00 A.M. EASTERN. THAT IS ON OUR WEBSITE AND OUR YOUTUBE PAGE. WE HAVE REGULARLY REPORTED ON THE CONTINUING RISE IN OPIOID OVERDOSE DEATHS DURING THIS PANDEMIC. WHAT HAS GOTTEN LESS ATTENTION IS A SHARP INCREASE IN ALCOHOL-RELATED DEATHS AS WELL. WILLIAM BRANGHAM LOOKS AT A NEW

STUDY ABOUT THAT CRISIS AND THE REASONS BEHIND THE SURGE. REPORTER: ALCOHOL-RELATED DEATHS WERE GOING UP BEFORE THE PANDEMIC STARTED, BUT AT FAR LOWER RATES. THEY ACCELERATED ONCE THE VIRUS EMERGED. A STUDY THIS WEEK IN THE JOURNAL OF THE AMERICAN MEDICAL ASSOCIATION FOUND THAT DURING THE FIRST YEAR OF THE PANDEMIC, ALCOHOL-RELATED DEATHS INCREASED DRAMATICALLY, BY 25%. IN 2020, DEATHS JUMPED FROM 79,000 A YEAR TO 99,000. AND THIS SPIKE WAS SEEN ACROSS ALL DRINKING AGE GROUPS. SO WHAT IS DRIVING THIS? KATHERINE KEYES IS AN EPIDEMIOLOGIST AT COLUMBIA UNIVERSITY'S MAMAN SCHOOL OF PUBLIC HEALTH. SHE FOCUSES ON SUBSTANCE ABUSE, ADDICTION, AND PSYCHIATRY. GREAT TO HAVE YOU ON THE NEWSHOUR. AS I MENTIONED, ALCOHOL-RELATED DEATHS HAD BEEN RISING, BUT REALLY TOOK OFF. WHEN YOU LOOK AT THOSE RESULTS, DOES THAT MAKE SENSE TO YOU? >> YES. CERTAINLY WHAT WE KNOW

PRE-PANDEMIC IS THAT ALCOHOL CONSUMPTION AND ALCOHOL RELATED DEATHS HAVE BEEN GOING UP IN THE UNITED STATES FOR ABOUT THE LAST 10 YEARS. AND WHAT WE KNOW IS THAT DURING THE PANDEMIC, THERE WERE A COUPLE OF FACTORS THAT HAVE REALLY CONTRIBUTED TO THAT ACCELERATION. ONE IS THE LOSS OF CONNECTION WITH ALCOHOL RELATED SERVICES AND TREATMENT PROGRAMS FOR PEOPLE WHO HAVE A HISTORY OF ALCOHOL RELATED PROBLEMS. AND THAT'S THEN COMBINED WITH THE STRESS OF THE PANDEMIC AND FINANCIAL STRESSORS THAT ARE ASSOCIATED WITH IT, THAT CREATED THE CONDITIONS THAT LED TO RELAPSE AND OTHER INCREASES IN HEAVY DRINKING, ESPECIALLY AMONG PEOPLE WITH A HISTORY OF HEAVY DRINKING AND RELATED PROBLEMS. >> DOES THAT GIVE ANY SENSE AS TO WHAT WE OUGHT TO BE DOING AS FAR AS TRYING TO PREVENT THESE KINDS OF DEATHS FROM HAPPENING? >> SURE, OF COURSE, YES, THERE

WERE MANY CHANGES IN ALCOHOL POLICY THAT OCCURRED ACROSS MANY STATES THAT MADE ALCOHOL LESS RESTRICTIVE AND LOWER COST, ESPECIALLY PEOPLE WHO ARE DRINKING AT HOME. AND WHAT WE KNOW FROM DECADES OF PUBLIC HEALTH WORK IS THAT POPULATION LEVEL INTERVENTIONS SUCH AS INCREASING THE PRICE OF ALCOHOL HAVE A POPULATION LEVEL EFFECT. SO BRING DOWN ALCOHOL CONSUMPTION SORT OF AT ALL POINTS ALONG THE DISTRIBUTION OF PEOPLE WHO ARE CONSUMING ALCOHOL. SO CERTAINLY INCREASING PRICE AND PROVIDING MORE TIGHTER REGULATIONS ON ACCESS TO ALCOHOL WOULD BE AN EVIDENCE BASED AND EFFECTIVE INTERVENTION TO REDUCE ALCOHOL RELATED DEATH. >> WHAT ARE THE OTHER WAYS THAT ALCOHOL HURTS THE HUMAN BODY? HOW IS IT CAUSING THIS MANY DEATHS? >> YEAH, ALCOHOL IS A CARCINOGEN AND THAT AFFECTS MANY SYSTEMS IN THE BODY. WE KNOW THAT HEAVY LEVELS OF ALCOHOL CONSUMPTION CAN BE ASSOCIATED WITH CARDIOVASCULAR DISEASE AND EVEN ACUTE CARDIOMYOPATHY AND OTHER CONDITIONS THAT MIGHT AFFECT OTHERWISE HEALTHY PEOPLE, EVEN

AT YOUNG AGES AND AT OLDER AGES. AT OLDER AGES, A CASCADE OF DEATHS RELATED TALCOHOL CAN INVOLVE BOTH HEART DISEASE, LIVER DAMAGE, AND OTHER SOURCES OF CHRONIC MORBIDITY, INCLUDING CANCER IN MANY OLDER FOLKS. REPORTER: WE MENTIONED EARLIER THAT THERE WERE CERTAINLY A SURGE IN OPIOID RELATED DEATHS DURING THE PANDEMIC THAT HAD REALLY BEGUN. THOSE HAD ALSO BEEN GOING UP, BUT REALLY TOOK OFF ALSO DURING THE PANDEMIC. ARE THOSE THINGS CONNECTED? ARE -- IS THERE AN OFTEN AN OVERLAP BETWEEN ALCOHOL USE AND OTHER DRUG USE? >> YES, THAT'S RIGHT. ALCOHOL AND OPIOIDS CAN BE A VERY FATAL COMBINATION. AND WE KNOW THAT MANY PEOPLE WHO DIE OF AN OPIOID OVERDOSE. THERE ARE MORE THAN ONE SUBSTANCE INVOLVED AND OFTENTIMES THAT DOES INVOLVE ALCOHOL. SO THESE POLY SUBSTANCE RELATED DEATHS ARE INCREASING ACROSS THE UNITED STATES, AND THE CONTRIBUTION OF ALCOHOL TO OPIOID OVERDOSE CAN'T BE UNDERSTATED.

YOU KNOW, CERTAINLY WHAT WE'RE SEEING IN TERMS OF THIS ACCELERATION OF ALCOHOL RELATED DEATHS INTERSECTS VERY DIRECTLY WITH THE OPIOID OVERDOSE EPIDEMIC. I MEAN, YOU TOUCHED ON THIS BEFORE, BUT CERTAINLY ANYONE THAT HAS EVER TRIED TO GET ANYONE INTO PSYCHIATRIC CARE OR SUBSTANCE ABUSE TREATMENT KNOWS THAT IT'S A VERY, VERY DIFFICULT THING TO DO WITH ACCESS AND INSURANCE AND JUST AVAILABILITY. THAT SEEMS LIKE THAT'S GOING TO BE AN ONGOING ISSUE THAT EVEN THE VIRUS RECEDES, THAT THIS IS GOING TO BE A REAL PROBLEM, THAT PEOPLE ARE GOING TO HAVE A HARD TIME GETTING CARE FOR. REPORTER -- >> YES, ALTHOUGH I WOULD SAY, YOU KNOW, NOW WE HAVE A VARIETY OF RELATIVELY LOW BARRIER OUTPATIENT INTERVENTIONS FOR PEOPLE WHO WANT TO REDUCE THEIR DRINKING. YOU KNOW, EVEN FOR PEOPLE WHO DON'T WANT TO BE COMPLETELY ABSTINENT FROM DRINKING BUT JUST FEEL LIKE THEY'RE DRINKING TOO MUCH. AND SO I WOULD CERTAINLY ENCOURAGE ANYONE WHO IS CONCERNED ABOUT THEIR DRINKING LEVEL OR THE DRINKING LEVEL OF A LOVED ONE TO TALK TO A HEALTH CARE PROVIDER ABOUT THE DIFFERENT TYPES OF INTERVENTIONS THAT ARE AVAILABLE. BECAUSE OFTENTIMES THIS IS A CONDITION THAT CAN BE TREATED IN

AN OUTPATIENT ENVIRONMENT. REPORTER: ALL RIGHT, KATHERINE KEYES IS AS AN EPIDEMIOLOGIST AT COLUMBIA UNIVERSITY'S MAILMAN SCHOOL. THANK YOU FOR BEING HERE. JUDY: THAT IS THE NEWSHOUR TONIGHT. THANK YOU, STAY SAFE, WE WILL SEE YOU SOON. >> THE FORD FOUNDATION WORKING WITH VISIONARIES ON SOCIAL

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