APS School Matters; Sleep and Learning

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BE TALKING ABOUT SLEEPING, WELCOME TO SCHOOL MATTERS. I THANK YOU FOR TUNING WE WILL HAVE A LIVELY INTERESTING ISSUES THAT ARE OF THE THINGS THAT HAS JUST GOT OVER LAST YEAR, IS MEASURED CENTURY, THE 1900'S WITH THAT MEASUREMENT HAS COME WITH THAT LEARNING, WE LEARNED HOW PEOPLE DON'T LEARN WELL. SO, WE ARE TRYING TO CREATE REPRESENTS THE LATEST

LATEST RESEARCH WE CAN GET OBVIOUSLY, IF CHILDREN LEARN WE HAVE JOINING US TONITE, RUSSELL GOFF, PRINCIPAL >> Goff: GLAD TO BE HERE. >> Allison: ROSEANN MCKERNAN. DIRECTOR OF RDA; RESEARCH HER DEPARTMENT DOES THE WORK THAT WE ARE DOING >> McKernan: THANK YOU. >> Allison: WE ARE DELIGHTED I AM GOING TO READ THIS; MEXICO CENTER FOR SLEEP MEDICAL DIRECTOR WELCOME DR. BROWN. >> Brown: THANK YOU. >> Allison: THIS HAS BECOME WHAT TIMES ARE CHILDREN WE HAVE BEEN DOING A LOT

ABOUT REALLY ENHANCING WE WANT TO TALK ABOUT SLEEP ADOLESCENTS. WHEN I WAS IS THAT JUST BECAUSE >> Brown: RESEARCH LITERATURE FROM PRE-ADOLESCENCE TO YOUNG IT IS COUNTER-INTUITIVE. YOU WOULD THINK AS ONE GETS IT IS ACTUALLY EXACTLY >> Allison: ELEMENTARY THE SAME AMOUNT OF SLEEP >> Brown: ADOLESCENTS NEED IN FACT, STUDIES HAVE SHOWN AN ADOLESCENT'S SLEEP TIME YOU MAKE AN IMPACT >> Allison: THAT SEEMS SO --

SLEEPS AND TAKE NAPS AND THEN RUSSELL, WHAT IS >> TEACHERS REPORT THAT IF YOU HAVE A 0 HOUR CLASS GENERALLY, FIRST PERIOD WE DO >> Allison: OVER THE YEARS, IS THAT TRUE? >> Brown: THAT IS THE OTHER AND ADOLESCENTS; THAT IS, FOR ADOLESCENTS TO PREFER THEY PREFER TO GO TO BED LATE INTO THE DAY. AND THAT IS BY THEIR INTERNAL CLOCK. CELLS IN THEIR BRAINS THAT

THAT IS A RHYTHM ONE OF THE THINGS THAT THAT WHEN TO BE SLEEPY AND WHEN IN THEIR BIOLOGY, TEND TO BE >> Allison: IT HAS SOMETHING >> Brown: MELATONIN IS REALLY WHAT IT HAS TO DO WITH IS KEEP RHYTHM IN THE BRAIN THE CELLS KEEP APPROXIMATELY THE BODY TO DO CERTAIN THINGS, EVERYDAY, OTHERWISE THEY TEND EVERY MORNING WHEN YOU GET UP

LIGHT, THAT IS ONE OF THE MAIN THEN THEY KNOW WHEN TO TIME ADOLESCENTS TEND TO RESPOND AND TO RESET THEIR CLOCKS LESS IN GENERAL TEND TO RUN >> Allison: IS THERE >> Brown: WISH I KNEW. STUDIES THAT WE HAVE DONE ARE QUANTITATE THE AMOUNT OF SLEEP WHY THAT SHOULD OCCUR IT MAY HAVE SOMETHING TO DO >> Allison: WHAT WOULD IN TERMS OF HELPING SET >> Brown: ONE OF THE MOST

IN ADOLESCENTS AND PROBABLY TO ALLOW THEM TO ADOPT ONE OF THE HARDEST THINGS WHO ALREADY HAS A TENDENCY WHO THEN, ON A WEEKEND, WILL IN THE MORNING AND THEN SLEEP IN THE AFTERNOON, AND THEN TO AN EARLIER SLEEP PHASE IT IS HARD TO ADVANCE IT'S MUCH EASIER TO DELAY >> Allison: DELAY MEANING? >> Brown: LATER AND LATER. >> Allison: MONDAY MORNING BEEN UP LATE SATURDAY NIGHT NIGHT, THERE IS RESIDUALS >> Brown: EXACTLY. THE SAME REASON, BY THE WAY, YOU TAKE A JET SOME PLACE

BECAUSE IT IS EASIER TO MOVE >> Allison: IT IS FASCINATING TO SO MANY OTHER THINGS, AND, THAT YOU HAVE BEEN DOING, THAT HAVE CHANGED START TIMES >> McKernan: PROBABLY THE MOST THEY FEEL LIKE THE MORNING BUT THE OTHER COMMENT THAT THE ADMINISTRATION IT IS JUST A LESS STRESSFUL OF THE COMMENTS THAT YOU FIND WITH THE LITERATURE AS STUDENTS GET MORE -- OF SLEEP, YOU SEE MORE ERRATIC WE ALL KNOW THAT AS WE TRY

DEPRIVE OURSELVES OF SLEEP, AND THOSE HIGHER LEVEL TO INTEGRATE PIECES AND DRAW CONCLUSIONS, ORDER COGNITIVE KINDS AFFECTED BY SLEEP, SO, BETTER ABLE TO DO THAT, ARE TO BE NEUTRAL OR JUST MILDLY >> Allison: THAT IS REALLY YOU THINK OF TRYING TO TEACH INDEPENDENTLY, THINK WHAT ABOUT BEHAVIOR, RUSSELL? ANY DIFFERENCE IN TERMS >> Goff: THE RESEARCH SEEMS BEHAVIORS WITH A LACK OF SLEEP SCHOOL, YOU SEE THOSE

STUDENTS THAT DON'T HAVE AS YOU GO THROUGH THE SEMESTER AND PARTICULARLY TOWARDS FINAL TO STAY UP LATER ANYWAY, THOSE THAT IS THE THING THAT EXAM TIME IS STRESS BUILDING WE TRY TO BREAK IT DOWN AND GO RATHER THAN STACK THEM UP, DIFFICULT FOR THEM, >> Allison: WE DO HAVE LARGE EXCEPT FOR ALTERNATIVES, >> Goff: GENERALLY MOST ALL AT 7:40, UNLESS THEY HAVE 0 MOST OF THOSE ARE BANDS. I DO ALL START DURING THAT TIME

>> Allison: ACTIVITY CLASSES, >> Goff: THAT IS CORRECT. >> Allison: DOES THAT MAKE >> Brown: I THINK IT WOULD BE EARLIER THAN TO HAVE TO TRY AND TAKE IN WHAT IS BEING ONE OF THE THINGS THAT SLEEP IF ONE HAS A PERIOD OF SLEEP WITH A FACT OF SOME SORT, THAT THAT IS WHY WE SAY, YOU KNOW, THE LATE SHOW ENDED, BEFORE YOU WENT TO BED THE PUNCH LINE FOR THAT JAY FALLEN ASLEEP SHORTLY KIDS IN FIRST PERIOD CLASSES WE CALL MICRO-SLEEPS; SHORT

THEY ARE BEING TAUGHT AND THAT FORMING A MEMORY FOR WHAT >> Allison: FASCINATING TERM, DO YOU HAVE TO CLOSE YOUR EYES >> Brown: YOU LOOK LIKE THE ELECTROENCEPHALOGRAM BRAIN WHETHER AN INDIVIDUAL IS AWAKE AND YOU CAN DEMONSTRATE THAT TO BE AWAKE, ARE ACTUALLY IT IS CALLED A MICRO-SLEEP. IT HAS BEEN DEMONSTRATED THAT IT IS LIKELY TO BE THE CAUSE BEHAVIOR, WHICH IS WHERE, SAY, YOU PASS ONE EXIT, SUDDENLY, SOMETIMES THAT IS INATTENTION

YOU ARE ACTUALLY ABLE TO DRIVE THE BRIEF PERIOD OF SLEEP, >> Allison: SLEEP DEPRIVATION I AM INTERESTED IN THAT. ROSEANN, CORPUS CHRISTI. THAT IS A SCHOOL DISTRICT IS A SOUTHWESTERN SCHOOL >> McKernan: ABOUT FIVE OR SIX IT SEEMED TO BE THE PERFECT BECAUSE THEY WERE BEGINNING ABOUT ATHLETIC PRACTICES DEGREES WITH 100% HUMIDITY, THE SLEEP RESEARCH WAS COMING THEY HAVE A 9:00 TO 4:00

>> Allison: TWO. >> McKernan: TWO. >> Allison: THERE ARE >> Brown: THERE IS A VARIATION THE KIDS THE SCHEDULE THAT >> Allison: WE ALL HAVE BEEN WE NEVER TALKED ABOUT AND DESIGNING SYSTEMS AROUND IT IS A TOTALLY DIFFERENT RUSSELL, THE PRACTICAL WHAT DOES THAT MEAN IN TERMS >> Goff: THE DIFFICULTY IS TO BALANCE YOUR YOU CAN LOOK AT THE PRESENT

IF YOU MOVE IT 30 MINUTES, AS WE TALKED IN A MEETING A 40-MINUTE GAP BETWEEN MOVING OUR SCHEDULE TO 9:20 DIFFICULT ON THE HIGH SCHOOL ACTIVITIES DURING THE WINTER SIX BASKETBALL TEAMS AN HOUR-AND-A-HALF AND YOU'RE THAT IS NOT PRACTICAL AND GOOD YOU ALSO HAVE A SITUATION YOU HAVE, IN NEW MEXICO YOU MAY ONLY HAVE 30 OR 45 DISTRICTS CAN DO THAT, THEY MAY TURN ON THE FOOTBALL THERE ARE SOME SITUATIONS THAT BUT THE KEY IS HOW TO BALANCE

AS EXTRACURRICULAR NEEDS THAT IS WHAT IS GOING TO BE >> Allison: FROM EXTRACURRICULAR IS REALLY PART REGARDS. SOME OF OUR KIDS >> Goff: DR. BROWN ALLUDED YOU TALKED ABOUT -- ROSEANN I CAN ALMOST ENVISION 8:00 IN THE MORNING TO 8:00 WE ARE LOCKED IN NOW. AS EDUCATORS, AS PARENTS, AND THIS IS WHAT WE HAVE TRYING TO CHANGE THAT NOW IS AND TRYING TO BALANCE SO MAYBE EXPANDING IT IS ONE >> Brown: THE COLLEGES REALLY

LONGER INTO THE EVENING HOURS >> Allison: THE OTHER THING IT AND COMPUTER LABS >> Goff: WHEN YOU THINK AND IF WE COULD EVER GET IT WOULD CREATE OTHER >> Allison: SOMEBODY DECIDED BETWEEN 7:00 AND 8:00 I DON'T KNOW WHAT THAT IS WHAT WE ARE USED >> Brown: SOMEBODY DECIDED EARLIER THAN THE EARLIER >> Allison: ELEMENTARY

12 IS SORT OF THE BEGINNING >> Brown: YES. >> Allison: ONES FROM 5 TO 11, >> Brown: KIDS OF THAT AGE MANY OF THEM ARE SELF-WAKERS. THEY DON'T NEED TO BE I MEAN, THINK ABOUT HOW IT HAPPENED ALL THE TIME AND SO, THE EARLIER GRADES, START EARLIER THAN >> Allison: THIS IS OF EVERYTHING FROM BUS I MEAN, I DON'T THINK ANY WE TALKED TO STUDENTS AT WEST

WE ARE GOING TO PLAY THEM >> ME PERSONALLY, I AM AGAINST AT THE LATER TIME TO THAT SCHEDULE, A LOT ABLE -- AREN'T GOING TO GET IN THE EVENING, PROBABLY 7, 8, ACTIVITIES, SPORTS, CLUBS, SO, THEY ARE GOING TO BE DRIVING AT NIGHT, WHICH HAS OF ACCIDENTS IN TEENAGE AND THEN THAT WOULD JUST OF STARTING SCHOOL AT A LATER AGAINST IT, BECAUSE IT IS IT IS JUST GOING TO PUSH

AND IT IS JUST GOING TO PUSH KIDS, THEY START NOW THEY WILL START AND FINISH I DON'T THINK IT WILL CHANGE WE WILL STILL GET THE SAME >> I AM FOR IT. IT HAS BEEN PROVEN THAT SCHOOL AT 9:00 ARE MORE ALERT AND IT HAS BEEN PROVEN IT DOES WORK AND IT HELPS I THINK THAT IF WE ARE GOING EXPERIENCE, I THINK WE SHOULD >> I THINK IT IS GOING ME PERSONALLY, MY JOB IS I TUTOR THEM AFTER SCHOOL THEY ARE, HOW ARE THEY GOING THEIR HOMEWORK THAT THEY NEED YOU KNOW, THEY GET OUT EARLIER

I THINK IT IS GOING TO CREATE >> MY INITIAL THOUGHT WAS THAT AS I STARTED THINKING FACTS THAT THROUGHOUT OTHER BEEN TRIED AND PROVED TO BE SHOWN, I STARTED TO THINK THAT I THINK A LOT OF STUDENTS ARE AND WE AS HUMANS ARE VERY IT WOULD TAKE A COUPLE I DON'T THINK IT -- IT DOESN'T IF WE ARE GOING TO TRY IT SO, I AM FOR IT AT THIS POINT. >> Allison: I AM VERY PROUD THEY ARE THINKING ABOUT IT ONE OF THE THINGS THAT IS CAN WE JUST TELL PEOPLE

>> McKernan: NO. IT WON'T WORK MOST OF THE DISTRICTS THAT ABOUT HAVE USED ABOUT A YEAR ONE OF THOSE THINGS IS TO HELP JUST AS THE YOUNG MAN SAID, IT HE IS CORRECT IN THAT WE ARE MOST OF THE SURVEY RESEARCH CHANGED TIMES HAVE SAID THAT AS RUSSELL MENTIONED, JUST GETTING THINGS ORGANIZED >> Allison: I HAVE BEEN TOLD THE SECOND YEAR THEY LOVE IT. IS THAT JUST GETTING USED >> Brown: I WOULD IMAGINE SO.

I KNOW THAT MOST OF THE KIDS THE MAIN PROBLEM IS ONE PROBLEMS WITH GETTING PARENTS IT CAN BE QUITE A PROBLEM THERE IS A LOT OF ORGANIZATION BUT I THINK THAT IS MORE >> Allison: RUSSELL, DO >> Goff: I WOULD HOPE SO. I WOULD HOPE THEY WOULD LEARN RIGHT NOW THE STUDIES DON'T I THINK THAT IS WHAT WE ARE IF THIS IS SOMETHING THAT WILL AND THAT IS OBVIOUSLY WHAT >> Allison: ANY RESEARCH

ANY STUDENT ACHIEVEMENT >> McKernan: THERE ARE VERY STUDENTS REPORT ON HIGHER ATTENDANCE RATES TEND TO BE BUT PROBABLY THE EARLIEST >> Allison: INDIANAPOLIS? >> McKernan: MINNESOTA. THEY ARE STILL LOOKING IT WILL TAKE A FEW YEARS AS DR. BROWN SAYS IT IS HOME SCHEDULES AND SCHOOL >> Allison: THERE HAS TO BE >> Goff: WHEN YOU THINK STUDENTS THAT ARE IN WORK

AND START AT NOON, AND WORK UNTIL 12 AND 1:00 OF OUR KIDS TODAY THAT ARE I DON'T KNOW HOW THEY GET UP SOME OF THEM EVEN CLOSE ABLE TO GET UP AND COME WORKING WITH BUSINESSES >> Brown: IT IS NOT HARD IT IS THE GETTING UP >> McKernan: ONE OF THE FIRST DEPARTMENT RAN INTO THE CHANGE >> Allison: REALLY? >> McKernan: ONE OF THE THINGS TO THE ROOT CAUSE AND THEY BEGAN TO TALK

WHO WOULD SAY, WELL, I KEPT THEN I GOT SO FAR BEHIND. AND SOMEBODY JUST CAME UP WELL, IF THEY CAN'T MAKE IT AND, WE SEE THAT. WE HAVE TALKED TO YOUNGSTERS OUR COMPREHENSIVE HIGH SCHOOLS OF NEEDING MORE SLEEP AND NOT THEIR SCHEDULES WHO YOU PROBABLY HAVE SEEN SOME >> Allison: BRIGHT PEOPLE. >> Goff: ONE OF THE THINGS WE ARE STARTING AT 10:00 TO SEE IF THAT WILL HELP WE HAVE DONE IT FOR LESS THAN IT RIGHT NOW TO SEE IF THAT >> Allison: ONE OF THE THINGS AS A COMMUNITY IN THE NEXT

I THINK THE COMMUNITY NEEDS I HAVE BEEN GETTING LOTS THEY HAVEN'T TAKEN THE TIME THE MORE WE CAN HAVE ALTHOUGH, I DO HOPE THAT MAYBE WE TALKED ABOUT THAT. >> Brown: THERE WILL ALSO BE FROM SOME OF THESE OTHER THAT HAVE BEEN EARLIER OF SCHEDULE, AND I THINK THAT BEHIND THIS IDEA, IF THESE A SIGNIFICANT IMPROVEMENT >> Allison: I HOPE SO. >> McKernan: IN MARCH OF '99, A BRIEF NEWSLETTER AND I WOULD IT IS A PRETTY EASY TO READ

WE TRIED TO SUMMARIZE I WOULD ENCOURAGE PARENTS THAT TO START WITH A REQUEST >> Allison: CALL COMMUNITY I WONDER IF WE CAN PUT IT THAT WOULD BE A WAY TO ACCESS THE WEBSITE IS APS.EDU. THERE IS A WEALTH >> Goff: A LOT OF SCHOOLS ALSO AS WELL AS STAFF MEMBERS HAVE THEY CAN BEGIN TO STUDY IT >> Allison: HOW IS STAFF >> Goff: I THINK THE HIGH AS YOU LOOK AT EXTRACURRICULAR THAT, HOW LATE IT GOES IF YOU DON'T DO ANYTHING YOUR BANDS AND EVERYTHING

LIKE I SAID EARLIER, IT IS TO BALANCE THE ACADEMICS ACTIVITIES BUT YOUR HIGH >> Allison: ONE OF OPEN UP THE HIGH SCHOOL >> Goff: SEVERAL OF US ARE MINE IS OPEN FROM 7 TO 7 I THINK AS YOU TRY TO EXPAND >> Allison: GIVE PEOPLE MORE WE WORRIED ABOUT DISCIPLINE WE HAVE TO HAVE ALL THE KIDS >> Goff: IT IMPACTS A CLOSED CAMPUS NOW, THAT ALL OF US TO MAINTAIN, TRYING BUT, IT MAY ELIMINATE BUS ONE HIGH SCHOOL THAT A COUPLE

AT IN TEXAS OPENS UP BUT THEY MAY HAVE FRESHMAN JUNIOR VARSITY, AND HOW DO WE EXPAND THIS? HOW DO YOU AVOID SIX TYPES HOW DO AVOID HAVING BAND HAVING BAND AT 6:00 THEM UP, BUT HOW DO YOU CHANGE KIDS FOR PRACTICE AND ALLOW THERE IS A LOT OF ISSUES THAT >> McKernan: THAT IS BRINGING IN OUR CONVERSATIONS OFTENTIMES THEY COME BACK, TO, AS WE SAY, FLIP FLOP WE NEED TO EXPAND

IT REALLY DOES FIT RIGHT IN. >> Allison: TIME IS SUCH PEOPLE LEARN IN DIFFERENT TIME PEOPLE LEARN IN DIFFERENT WE HAVE SORT OF SAID ONE SIZE IS SORT OF INTERESTING TO LOOK IT IS NOT IN DOUBT. THIS ISN'T EXPERIMENTAL? >> Brown: THIS IS WELL-FOUNDED THE RESEARCH DATES BACK IT HAS BEEN AROUND FOR QUITE I MIGHT SAY ADOLESCENTS; PRACTICE OR BASKETBALL OR AT NIGHT AND THEN EXPECTING AND DO THEIR HOMEWORK, YOU MAY BECAUSE MOSTLY WHEN A YOUNG SCHOOL AND GOES TO COLLEGE,

OF THEIR SCHOLASTIC THE CLASSES, BUT THE PROBLEM IT IS PRETTY COMMON THAT IS WHY WHERE I WENT THAT IS WHERE EVERYBODY WAS. >> Allison: THAT WAS IN NEW >> Brown: IN BOSTON. >> Goff: ONE OF THE CONCERNS AND HAVING KIDS OUT LATE >> Brown: I WOULD RATHER HAVE >> Allison: RUSSELL WOULD, >> McKernan: I THINK WHAT THAT IT IS NOT JUST A SCHOOL ISSUE. >> Allison: YES. IT HAS TO BE SO INTERESTING WATCHING I WAS AT A CAC MEETING

THEY BROUGHT IN AND TALKED PARTS OF THE COUNTRY WHERE DR. BROWN, THE MIDDLE SCHOOL 12, 13, 14 YEAR OLD. ANY RESEARCH RELATIVE TO THAT >> Brown: AT THAT AGE, AND, THEIR SCHEDULES STARTING TO DRIFT TOWARDS WHAT ONE OF THE THINGS THAT I WOULD THAT THERE ARE SLEEP DISORDERS AND THESE SLEEP DISORDERS CAN ONE OF THE SLEEP DISORDERS THESE ARE INDIVIDUALS WHO WHEN RESPONSIBLE FOR KEEPING IN THE BACK OF THE THROAT

TO RELAX TOO MUCH AND THESE A PERIOD OF TEN OR 20 OR 30 TO BREATH AND THEY MAKE UP THEY SNORE LOUDLY AND GO BACK HUNDREDS OF TIMES THEY ARE WAKING UP SO MANY THAT AFFECTS A FAIR PERCENTAGE THE MOST RECENT STUDIES TO 4% OF CHILDREN PROBABLY PROBABLY THAT IS OUT ANYMORE UNLESS THEY HAVE THE TONSILS MAKE THAT AREA >> Allison: INDICATORS WOULD >> Brown: STRUGGLING TO BREATH

>> Allison: AND REAL TIRED. >> Goff: THAT IS WHAT IS SORT CHILDREN WHEN THEY ARE SLEEP THINK ABOUT WHAT MIGHT HAPPEN OF YOU THAT HAVE THEM, WHEN WHAT DO THEY DO? DO THEY START GETTING SLEEPY? THEY GET CRANKY AND THEY START WITH AND THEY START BEING THE SAME SORTS OF BEHAVIORAL WITH SLEEP DISORDERS, WHO >> Allison: THAT IS IN THE EDUCATION AREA, WE PUT I THINK IT IS BECOMING ONE IN THE CULTURE AND THERE >> Brown: THESE CHILDREN MAY THERE WAS A BEAUTIFUL STUDY WHERE THEY LOOKED AT THE FIRST

THEY CHOSE THE STUDENTS WHO PERCENTILE OF THEIR GRADES THOSE CHILDREN FOR OBSTRUCTIVE ABOUT 1/5 OF THESE 300 THE ONES WHO HAD THESE SIGNS MAINLY WOULD BE AN OF THE GROUP, THE PARENTS, AND OF THE CHILDREN WHO HAD THEIR GRADE POINT AVERAGE >> Allison: HOW ARE

>> Allison: ARE THEY REALLY? >> McKernan: I STILL HAVE >> Goff: YES. >> Allison: WE HAD AN EARLIER IS THERE A SPECIFIC WAY YOUNG ON THE BACK OR -- >> Brown: NOT ON THE BACK. IF YOU SLEEP ON YOUR BACK THE BEST THING TO DO IS >> Allison: IT'S CORRECTIONS, BODY CONNECTIONS WE HAVE KNOWN SOME OF THESE THE LONGER I AM -- YOU KNOW SEEMS TO ME MEDICINE, BRAIN REALLY CHANGING -- PRESENTING >> McKernan: IT IS.

I WOULD SAY IN THE LAST 5 A VERY DIRECT OR VERY THE MEDICAL RESEARCH AND BRAIN SO THAT THEY ARE INTERPRETED PRACTICAL SENSE, SO THAT INFORMATION AND USE IT RIGHT SITTING HERE LISTENING TO THIS ABOUT WE HAVE THROWN AROUND LEARNERS, BUT THIS IS THE TIME IS LEARNING ABOUT ALL >> Allison: THOSE ARE SUCH THERE IS A DERMATOLOGIST ENCOURAGING US TO FIND WAYS ON YOUNG KIDS BECAUSE WE NOW IT IS REALLY, I GUESS,

>> Goff: I HAVE A CAMPUS THAT AND IT IS VERY HARD TO SAY OF COURSE, YOU WANT TO KEEP NECESSARILY IN THE CLASSROOM, ON CAMPUS, THEY NEED THAT WE TRIED TO MAINTAIN THAT. SOMETIMES IT CREATES OTHER -- ALLOW THEM TO WEAR HATS >> Allison: YOU BROUGHT UP THAT IS THE WORKING STUDENT. I DON'T KNOW WHAT PERCENTAGE MAYBE? >> Goff: QUITE A FEW. >> Allison: WE HAVE GOT >> Goff: CORRECT. >> Allison: ON A REGULAR BASIS >> Goff: SOMETIMES JUST SOME OF OUR KIDS IN HIGH >> Allison: YES, IT ISN'T

>> Goff: NO. >> Allison: THE RESEARCH IF YOU WORK MUCH PAST 20 HOURS >> McKernan: THERE IS A FAIRLY AND THE WAY THAT THEY CAN -- BECAUSE, IF THEY DON'T -- TO MAINTAIN A SUFFICIENT GPA, SO, ALL THOSE EFFORTS TO GET >> Allison: THEY ARE SUCH YOU ONLY GET TO BE 16 ONCE. [Laughter] >> Allison: REMEMBER OUR FIRST DR. BROWN, A LITTLE BIT MORE PARENTS BRING THEIR CHILDREN

THREE MONTHS, IS THERE THEY SHOULD KNOW ABOUT SLEEP >> Brown: AS WE HAVE BEEN AND AN INFANT TENDS TO SLEEP OR 50% OF THE 24 HOURS AND AN INFANT TENDS TO HAVE IN FACT, INFANTS USUALLY ENTER OR REM SLEEP, WHICH IS IT IS THOUGHT THAT SLEEP, MAY BE ONE OF THE MECHANISMS ITSELF DURING INFANCY, THAT THE RICH INTERCONNECTION

ARE BEING FORMED AND VARIOUS BRAIN CELLS ARE BEING MADE, SO, THAT MUCH SLEEP AND THAT AS CHILDREN GROW OLDER, IT GOES DOWN. THE AMOUNT OF DIFFERENT TYPES THEY REQUIRE LESS OF THIS THEY END UP HAVING A LOT MORE THEN THERE IS A CONTINUOUS IN THE KIND OF SLEEP AND HOW AS PEOPLE AGE, THEY TEND THEIR SLEEP TENDS TO GET SOME OF THEIR SLEEP PATTERNS

SLEEP IS VERY DEPENDENT >> Allison: IF ANY MORE INTERESTED IN PURSUING >> Brown: WELL, I AM THE NUMBER IS 872-6000. I WOULD BE HAPPY TO ANSWER ANY >> Allison: VERY KIND OF YOU. I WANT TO THANK DR. BROWN ROSEANN, I ALWAYS LEARN MAKES ME MORE FRUSTRATED MR. GOFF IS THE DEAN THANK YOU FOR BEING HERE AND, STAY TUNED, IN A FEW FASCINATING CONVERSATION

GONE TO BED NOW EXCEPT ALAN ALAN IS THE LEGISLATIVE THE STATE SPENDS MORE MONEY MAJOR CATEGORY, SO IT IS A PRESENCE UP IN SANTA FE ALAN HAS BEEN ACTIVE HE IS A COUNCILMAN IN THE CITY FOR 24 YEARS AND HE HAS BEEN SO, ALAN, WHAT CAN WE EXPECT >> Armijo: IT WILL BE CERTAINLY, ALL 112 LEGISLATIVE SOME WERE DEFEATED. BUT, CERTAINLY, JUST THERE IS A SURPLUS OF THE LEGISLATORS ARE SAYING IN FACT, LAST WEEK LEGISLATIVE

TO INCREASE NEW MONEYS THERE IS GOING TO BE THE GOVERNOR HAS COME OUT AGREE WITH LEGISLATORS PUTTING I THINK WE WILL BE ON THE SIDE >> Allison: IT IS INTERESTING. AT THE NATIONAL LEVEL LEVEL, EVERYBODY IS TALKING DO YOU THINK THAT WILL >> Armijo: THERE ARE 100 AND EVERYONE HAS A DIFFERENT I DO EXPECT TO SEE QUITE A BIT WE ARE CERTAINLY GOING TO BE IMPORTANT TO APS >> Allison: WE HAVE HAD THE NEW MEXICO FIRST REPORT ACCOUNTABILITY TASK FORCE

AND THEY ARE ALL COMING OUT THEY ARE ASKING LEGISLATORS >> Armijo: THAT IS GOING TO BE LEGISLATORS DEAL WITH THAT BUT IT IS GOING TO MAKE WE CERTAINLY SUPPORT SOME WE DON'T SUPPORT SOME OTHERS. WE HAVE SOME MORE SPECIFIC DISTRICTS HAVE, BUT I THINK THE SAME IN TERMS OF HOW DO >> Allison: I THINK, DEMOCRATS, INDEPENDENTS, WE SEE THE IMPORTANCE OF THAT; >> Armijo: WE DO HAVE 113 THE PROCESS IS WHAT IS TO BE THERE GIVING INFORMATION WHY, FOR EXAMPLE, WE NEED

TO GO BACK TO FOCUS WHAT WAS SHOWN IN THAT KIND WHY IT IS IMPORTANT ON SOCIAL FOR THOSE KIDS, BUT NOT JUST SCHOOL AND NOON AND SATURDAYS, TO WORK WITH THE CHILDREN WHO >> Allison: PARTICULARLY BERNADETTE SANCHEZ TALKED GOING TO INTRODUCE TO REQUIRE IF THEY DON'T READ AT GRADE >> Armijo: LAST YEAR SIGNED A FIVE-YEAR PHASE EDUCATION, KINDERGARTEN, AND, FOR THOSE SCHOOLS THAT HAD OTHER SCHOOLS AND ALSO THOSE FOR THE KINDERGARTEN CLASS. ONE OF THE PRIORITIES IN APS THEY CONTINUE THAT, BUT THAT

FOR THE CAPITAL NEEDS, HAVE ENOUGH CLASSROOMS SO, THOSE ARE THINGS THAT HAVE OF HOW DO WE ADDRESS THAT IS ONE OF THE PRIORITIES >> Allison: DARE I USE THE V >> Armijo: CERTAINLY WE ALL SOMETHING THAT THE GOVERNOR I HEAR FROM MANY LEGISLATORS, CERTAINLY THERE ARE ALWAYS WITH THAT, BUT IN THE LAST IN MY TALKS TO LEGISLATORS, THE GOVERNOR AND HIS AGENDA >> Allison: STATE AND THE STATE OF MICHIGAN, OHIO SUPREME COURT RULED IF WE WERE GOING TO HAVE

HAVE TO LEARN FROM >> Armijo: ONE OF THE WAYS LOOKING AT CHARTER SCHOOLS, WE CERTAINLY ARE SEEING THAT AND MAKE SOME CHANGES SO THAT WE CAN DO THOSE THINGS VOUCHERS, BUT I THINK AND HAVE HEARD FROM PARENTS TO BE CHANGES IN THE WAY WE DO MAKING THOSE CHANGES >> Allison: WE HAVE TO BE >> Armijo: AS WE GET INTO KIND TECHNOLOGY, THOSE ARE NOT JUST HAVING COMPUTERS TOM RYAN IS WORKING YOU USE THE COMPUTER TO TEACH THE CALCULATOR IS A TOOL, JUST

WHATEVER THE CASE MAY BE, TO DO THE TEACHING BUT IT IS OF GETTING TO KIDS, THE THINGS THAT WE HAVE WE HAVE IN OLDER SCHOOLS UNDERSTAND THIS, LET'S SAY THEY DON'T HAVE THE THEY DON'T HAVE THE I KNOW I GET CALLS EVERY ONCE A PARENT CALLED AND YOU ALL FOR ELECTRICAL HOOKUPS IF YOU DON'T HAVE THAT, THOSE ARE THE KINDS OF THINGS >> Allison: WHAT OTHER THINGS >> Armijo: ONE OF OUR BIGGEST HOW DO WE CONTINUE TO INCREASE NOT JUST TEACHERS. WE ARE TALKING IN APS, LOSING NOT ONLY TEACHERS

MANAGERS, PRETTY MUCH WE ARE LOSING PRINCIPALS WE ARE LOOKING AT HOW DO WE, WE CONTINUE TO INCREASE PAY IT IN SO THAT THEY HAVE MAYBE A LONGER SCHOOL DAY, BUT THEY GET PAID FOR IT, NOT IN THE PAST, WITH SOME OF THEM HAVE 5 TO 10 DAYS AND SAME AFTER SCHOOL IS IT IS PART OF THE PAY PACKAGE, HOW DO WE TIE THIS DEVELOPMENT AND AT THE SAME FOR OUR TEACHERS SO THAT >> Allison: WE HAVE TO VALUE WE HAVE TO VALUE THEM IN TERMS >> Armijo: ONE OF THE OTHER

FOR AND CERTAINLY IT IS HOW DO WE CHANGE FOR EXAMPLE, FOR THOSE TO KEEP THEM IN THE SYSTEM TEACHING AND GET IT HAS BEEN ESTIMATED, A STUDY OF NEW MEXICO FOR THE NEXT 10 TEACHERS PER YEAR, IN THE STATE OF NEW MEXICO ARE >> Allison: COLORADO, >> Armijo: THEY ARE GETTING WE ALL KNOW SOME PEOPLE MAY OF COLLEGE WITH A TEACHING AS WE BECOME, IN ALBUQUERQUE TYPE OF CITY AND STATE, THERE >> Allison: HAVE YOU SEEN THE FATHER SAYS YOU WON'T MAKE

IT IS NOT IMPORTANT AND THE LITTLE BOY SAYS, WHERE IT IS REALLY PUBLIC EDUCATION. K-12 EDUCATION IS THE GOOSE >> Armijo: OUR PRIORITIES ARE OF AROUND OUR STUDENTS, AROUND AND THOSE ARE THE MAIN THINGS WE ARE WORKING WITH OTHER THE STATE. WE ARE WORKING EDUCATIONAL PARTNERS FROM K SO IT IS NO LONGER GOING BUT EVERYONE INVOLVED PRIVATE SCHOOLS, UNIONS, ASSOCIATIONS, I THINK OR FOUR YEARS, REALIZE THAT IN TERMS OF IMPROVING >> Allison: I AM AFRAID THAT

THANK YOU FOR JOINING ME PLEASE KNOW THAT SCHOOL REALLY IN TERMS OF YOUR CONTRIBUTIONS LISTENING TO THESE KIND IT'S VERY MUCH APPRECIATED (CAPTIONING PERFORMED BY NEW