Illustrated Daily; 13; Library Footage, State Penitentiary. Search Scene at Penitentiary. Books on Library Shelf. Interview with Librarian on Rehabilitation. Interview with Dr. Jack Litman. Interview with Inmate. Intimate Couple in Visitation Yard. Guard at Watch Tower. Box of Tomatoes. Cell Room. Footage of Women Discussing "Rehab" Programs.

No, I'm not turned on. Turn my knob. How about your shotgun? The shotgun should be hot. Hello, hello, hello. There it is. How about me? You got me? Test one, two, test, test. Oh, the librarian is done in that end. There's a, there's a, is it a sheep? Yeah. Can we get in there? Can we get closer? Okay, you know James come over here. Can we push it down? Oh, I've been getting a really good response.

The other apps they know they're not. Security precautions. No, they just, they just do that man. They're coming right behind us. Let's go over here.

You've got a lot more equipment to work with, I know she got very nice. So what do you find that is the inmates fancy? What do they like to read? Western. Are they allowed to read the more racing kind of thing? Let's talk about the role of rehabilitation. What do you see as your role in rehabilitating an inmates? Well, we provide legal access for inmates here. Could I just make a full statement and embody my question into your response please? Okay, that'd be fine. As far as rehabilitation goes, we provide legal access for inmates. We also provide general reading materials for them.

How do you see a library functioning in a penitentiary? I mean, how does, how is this rehabilitating a person? It allows them to have access to magazines that would be current reading materials, as well as current fiction and non-fiction materials. Okay. What are, do you have any criticisms of your department at all? I don't know. And then what's the word? So, when you started working here, I mean, you must realize you have a tremendous job ahead of you. What was your feelings about it? I looked at it as very positive. It's quite a challenge from day to day. The library was not destroyed during the riot, and it's very crucial. And so, I think it's a good sign that the library is needed. How do the inmates respond to you under your efforts? I think pretty positive. Could you make that a statement, sir? Yeah, our usage is going up considerably, so I would say that the positive response

of the circulation has gone up about 210%. People, a lot of people here can't read. How do you come about that? Okay, we have high-low reading materials, and we're going to start a reading program for inmates. So, what you're saying is that it's been generally responsive? Yes, it is. Okay, that's fine. Okay. Last week, they locked me up in cell block 3 for refusing to move to a semi-protection unit. They gave me a report for refusing a program assignment. I beat the report, but still, I had to... In 3, that's the way they have to visit and change out to the visit. A lot of guys that are being housed over there in 3 are not maximum security prisoners. There's no need for that, you know? They are not maximum security prisoners. They're not. I was in there and I had to visit with James on like that in this little visiting room. They have the folks wait out there in prison, and you're not. You shower with them, you go every place and change like they do. You go to visits and change.

You don't get no wreck in this. They feel like giving it to you, you know? It's pretty... things are quick. Okay, just put it for the record here. Name and title, please. Oh, Dr. Jack Littman, Director of Psychology. All right, Dr. Littman. What's the role of psychological evaluation and counseling in the rehabilitation of an inmate here at the pediatry? Well, the role is essentially to provide direct services to the inmate coming in here. To be a rehabilitative source in providing them with therapeutic services, providing them an opportunity to gain insight into their past behavior, to make behavioral change. And so that hopefully when they go out, eventually go out to the outside again that they'll be able to profit from their experiences through our departments in specific and be able to become a productive citizen again.

Being that your predecessor, Dr. Warner, had such a stormy tenure. I mean, how do you go about destigmatizing this unit? I think the unit has become destigmatized, so to speak. Since the riot, the staff has completely turned over. In other words, we have an eight-man staff at this point, and all of us have come since the right. And I don't think we're identified with Dr. Warner and the previous staff. I think the inmates have tended to become be cautious after the riot. And I think that's abating at this point, and we have several group programs going, and we probably see one-third of the population,

or reach one-third of the population, presently, even in our handicapped facilities, because of the construction. At this point, we receive... Now, rehabilitation in a prison, of course, has been hearing varying things from inmates, that yes, it's helping me know what's not, and that the administration has not been responsive to the needs of the inmates in regards to rehabilitation. Can you comment? Well, the administration has been cooperative with us, and allowing us to do the kinds of things that we want to do. So, as far as our department is concerned, they've been cooperative with us and allowing us to put together the kind of programs that have encouraged it. We've also been able to, with this administration, bring in an outside yoga meditation group

from inside out of Santa Fe, which has not been able to have been accomplished. It wasn't able to be accomplished in the past. I think that speaks well for the administration and that respect. As far as rehabilitation, that's... Rehabilitation is difficult and at best under these circumstances. I think both the psychological staff understands that, and the inmates understand that. We were attempting to rehabilitate a person so that they are able to adjust into society once they go out here. And yet, when they do go out, there's a radical adjustment because they've... and simply what they've received in here has been only role-playing or artificial at best in helping them adjust to the many difficulties

that civilian life creates. Thus, what we try to do with our therapy here and our rehabilitation here is to provide them with a series of decompressing steps if we can provide them with a halfway facility or a treatment facility. Before they finally hit the street, so to speak, we feel that this is added insurance toward their successful return to society. Okay, let me ask you one last question and please try to be as brief as possible and make a statement, cooperate my question into your response. Sure. Is rehabilitation possible inside a penitentiary setting? Well, I hope so because it's...

I need a statement, sir. Is it possible? I believe rehabilitation is possible inside a penitentiary. Yes. It's difficult yet it's possible. I'm not sure within our present way of dealing with law offenders, how else one can be rehabilitated if it's not in a penitentiary. So, I think this is what we have to work with and try to do the best job we can. Okay, thank you. There's no discussion about arguing here. That's it. Daily? Huh? What kind of action? All right, all right there, Mark.

One more, three, one, one, one. Here you go. Put that down. Let's get heavy. Yeah. That's what I have to be cleared with Warden White. Well, I'm not sure. I'd have to call you to give you a confirmed guest.

But believe me, we're not putting you in this situation. I said I'm not putting you in a situation that's going to be uncomfortable for you. Is this anything that's the visiting area I mean in terms of proximity? No, I just have a car for the evening. What kind of proximity? That's it. Children too?

Children are allowed in to see their father? This bank here is a little nursery tank. We've got colored ropes. I'm just getting a few mashed ones out of here. Mostly they're nice. We ran out of office space. I hope I need to sell this.

Or they have their like their class. We get to learn how to cook a lot of different foods. A lot of girls that are in here have never been able to cook or anything they learn in here. When they get released and going out on the streets, they have a trade. They can be a cook at any restaurant. Well, we've got arts and crafts. We've got sewing lessons, guitar lessons.

We've got a little bit of everything. What's your opinion on the programs? I like the programs. Could you make a statement and say rehab programs? Well, rehab programs are, you know, the programs are very great for the girls to learn before they can mountain streets. They will learn a lot of things, trades, it's a good experience. How long have you been here? I've been here about a month now. How much do you have here? I've got two to ten to do and one three year flat sentence. So what are your prospects and how do you feel about it? Well, I just take it from day to day and hope to pick up some schooling that they have to offer. And maybe some other type of trade. Get myself ready for when I leave. Any final words you want to say? No. What do you want to say?

Yeah, my family. Rosina and Jo and I are my boy, Mark. I'd like to say hi to them. Thanks a lot. Thanks a ton after our final step. Right here we come a lot better. We're going to put our hands on that one. What's your second name? My name's Evelyn. All right, go ahead and go ahead. We're doing a program on prison rehabilitation. Have you been involved in any of the rehabilitation programs? Yes. Can you tell us about it? What your feelings are about them? Well, I'm on the consent decree right now. I represent the women here. All I can really say is we're trying. I want improvements. We need them. So what is your opinion currently of the treatment programs? We have programs that are going on. And if you can make a full statement and say that we have programs are... Problems that we have now?

Yes, ma'am. You really don't have any? You're honest with you. You really don't... That's what I know. Don't have any? Talk to me about it. About the programs? We have one program. Toastmasters. It isn't really a soft supporting program. We don't have any. You mean soft improvement programs? Programs where rehabilitation comes in? We don't have anything like that. Why? Why? I think they're afraid of us. I think they're afraid. Of what? The knowledge that we possess. But we might be able to teach them.

I really believe that. But why would someone be fearful of you acquiring new knowledge? They're afraid. Because we have the ideas to better the institution. And they don't want to take them. I mean, they're afraid that the programs that we come out with will be some kind of racial... racial, I'm gonna say. We'll start our own clique. A revolution or something. That's what we're asking for now. And what they're telling us is we don't want any more programs coming in because of the racial problems that we have here. I don't think that's right. They're afraid of us. I believe that. Any final word you'd like to say or anything about this institution

or something you'd like to say while we're here? I want them to pick up a dictionary and look up the word or your realizations. That's what I would like to say. Thanks a lot. So I house it up. Okay, let's end it.