New Mexico in Focus; 1421; Coronavirus and The Holiday, Emergency Unit Closure

>> FUNDING FOR NEW MEXICO MCCUNE CHARITABLE AND VIEWERS LIKE YOU. >> Gene: THIS WEEK ON NEW INTO THE HOLIDAYS, OVERRUN NEW MEXICO'S >> Dr. Collins: AS WE LOOK THIS IS THE TIME WHEN ENJOY THEIR FAMILY, BUT THIS IS NOT THE >> Gene: PLUS, LAWMAKERS SESSION AND PONDER HOW GATHERING IN 2021. NEW MEXICO INFOCUS >> Gene: THANKS FOR I'M YOUR HOST, GENE GRANT. THE UNFORTUNATE NEW MEXICO HAS TOPPED 2000 SINGLE DAY, AND NOW DAYS LATER. A WEEK INTO WHAT THE WE'RE DISCOVERING JUST HOW THAT'S ESPECIALLY UPCOMING HOLIDAY. WE'LL GET A FEW WORDS OF FAMILY, THOUGH THERE'S NO

YOU'RE ALREADY IN WE'LL TALK ABOUT THE EMERGENCY UNIT IN A NATIVE POPULATION, THE SESSION, OR TWO, THAT'S WHERE WE'LL >> Gene: THIS IS BAD. THERE'S NO NEED TO OF NEW MEXICO'S THE QUESTION NOW IS, BY ORDER, ARE BETTER THAT'S OUR FIRST QUESTION LET ME INTRODUCE THEM. WE'VE GOT GUEST PANELIST SHE'S PRESIDENT OF WE'RE ALSO JOINED BY REGULAR DANIEL FOLEY UP LINE REGULAR AND ATTORNEY AND ANOTHER LINE REGULAR WOULD BE TOM GARRITY OF TOM, I WANT TO POINT OUT, THE MARCH SHUTDOWN. WE ALL KNOW BUT AS I SAID, THE LET'S JUST START AS A WHAT DOES YOUR

>> Tom: WELL, IT IT'S KIND OF THE SITUATION WE'VE GOT THROUGH HOW MUCH OF AN IMPACT IT WILL BE IN THE PUDDING. IF ALL OF A SUDDEN THEN IT WORKED. IF NOT, THEN, YOU >> Gene: DAN, WHAT'S BEEN THE REACTION FRIENDS EITHER DOWN IN THE STATE OR HERE IN RIO HEARING OUT THERE? >> Dan: CONCERNING >> Gene: THE THE RESET, WE >> Dan: OBVIOUSLY, GENE, I MEAN, YOU KNOW THE THEY'RE NOT THEY SAY -- IT'S I WILL TELL YOU, A LOT OF THE MASKS AND NOT OPPOSED THEY JUST CAN'T GET THEIR TO A FRIEND'S RESTAURANT STAND IN LINE FOR THREE

OR I CAN GO STAND IN LINE CAN GO TO A BICYCLE REPAIR KNOW, GO DO THE THINGS SO I THINK THAT'S THE KIND JUST, AT LEAST PEOPLE THAT AND THEY ALSO ARE SAYING, BEFORE, YOU KNOW, WE SHUT WE OPENED BACK UP WE HAD THINK IT'S CLEAR THAT TO BE A WAY TO CONTAIN SORT OF A VACCINE OR THE BECAUSE IT SEEMS LIKE >> Gene: I WANT TO MAKE ARE YOU SAYING THERE'S UNTIL THE VACCINE? ISN'T THIS THE WAY THAT >> Dan: I SAID IT SEEMS, COUNTRY WITH CLOSINGS AND CONTRACTING OF THE ORDERS NUMBERS SEEM TO AS YOU CONTRACT

THE MINUTE YOU OPEN IT TO GO UP AGAIN. SO IT DOESN'T SEEM LIKE YOU OPEN IT BACK UP AGAIN. I THINK THAT'S WHAT PEOPLE THEY'RE LIKE, SO WE'RE WEEKS, THE NUMBERS ARE GOING TO GET TOLD WE CAN ARE GOING TO GO BACK UP TOLD WE HAVE SHELTER SO I JUST DON'T KNOW. IT DOESN'T SEEM LIKE WE'RE ALMOST AT A YEAR LIKE IT'S BEEN >> Gene: HEY, GIOVANNA, THURSDAY AS WE TAPE THIS, REVISED RESET, SO TO BUT CLARIFYING THAT JUST BIG BOX STORES, AND KIND OF POINTED OUT THERE, HEARTBURN OUT THERE RETAILERS, WHO FEEL LIKE TREATED HERE. HOW DO WE BALANCE THE WITH BALANCING THE NEED IS THERE A BETTER WAY THAN

>> Giovanna: YEAH, I THINK BROAD TOPIC. AND USUALLY WHEN WE SEE COMMUNITY -- AND WE HAVE AN ECONOMIC CRIES SO WE'RE DEALING WITH AND USUALLY IN THIS KIND LEGISLATORS AND LOT OF TIME LOOKING AT POLICIES, AND WE JUST WE HAVEN'T HAD THE >> Gene: WE'VE HAD SINCE >> Giovanna: RIGHT, BUT OUT NOW, IT IS NEW, RIGHT. LIKE, WE DIDN'T HAVE AND WE'VE SEEN THE

WAY THAT SHE HAS WITHOUT, WRONG, IT'S JUST THE WAY THE INPUT OF A LOT OF BUT THE QUESTION ABOUT THE NEW CLARIFICATION OF GOING TO HELP, BUT AND THERE'S A FUNDAMENTAL ISN'T BEING ADDRESSED I THINK WE'RE TALKING LITTLE SOLUTIONS WORK, HERE, IS THIS TWO WEEKS GOING TO THERE'S A MUCH BROADER, AT HAND HERE, WHICH IS, HAVE A STRONG ECONOMY AND HEALTH OF OUR BIGGEST AND WE'RE NOT ADDRESSING AND IT SEEMS TO BE THAT CONFLICT, ACTUALLY.

>> Gene: LAURA, THE REMINDER TO BIGGER BIG BOX, BUT BIGGER YOUR INCOME HAS TO COME THINGS LIKE THAT. HERE'S A LIST OF FOLKS DILLARDS; MACY'S; BED, SPORTING GOODS; KOHLS; BURLINGTON COAT FACTORY. IT'S A LONG LIST. DO YOU HEAR ANY FOOD WHY ARE THEY OPEN? >> Laura: WELL, I THOUGHT WAS SUPPOSED TO ADDRESS BEING ELIGIBLE TO BE OPEN, THAT'S HOW I UNDERSTOOD BUT THE BOTTOM LINE IS, PARTICULAR RETAILERS EXPECTATION OF BEING OPEN. IF THEY WEREN'T OPEN THE IN THE LOCKDOWN BACK IN SEE WHY THEY WOULD NOTHING HAS REALLY CHANGED THAT THEY PROVIDE. BUT IT DOES SOUND LIKE

DIFFERENT, I THINK, FOR US WASN'T THE CASE BEFORE, EVERYTHING WAS SHUT DOWN SO YOU COULDN'T EVEN DO COULDN'T PURCHASE ANYTHING NOW YOU CAN. SO IT'S A STATE-BY-STATE STATES ARE STILL ABLE SO IF YOU HAVE SOME ONLINE MAKE FROM SOME OF THOSE GOING INTO THE HOLIDAY DO THAT ONLINE AND STILL THERE'S ALSO STILL A KNOW, DOOR DASH AND POSTMATES KIND OF SERVICES SO IT'S REALLY IMPORTANT AND TRY TO SUPPORT OUR STRUGGLING TO STAY OPEN. THERE'S A COUPLE OF LOCAL MUCH THAT I TRY TO ORDER JUST TO KEEP THEM AFLOAT, NEED TO PURCHASE ANYTHING, VENDOR, IF WE CAN.

BUT I THINK THERE'S JUST THE HOLIDAYS, IN GENERAL, OF ANXIETY FOR PEOPLE, NOW THERE'S A PANDEMIC OF UNCERTAINTY WITH THAT, AND THEN THERE'S A LOT OF SO I THINK THAT ALL OF PERFECT STORM FOR PEOPLE FATIGUE WHEN IT COMES TO ANXIETY THROUGH THE ROOF. SO IT'S REALLY A PUBLIC CRISIS AT THIS POINT. >> Gene: THAT'S HEY, TOM, LET ME READ GOVERNOR'S OFFICE WHEN THE IN ABOUT THE BIGGER IN PART, IT SAYS: "I FRUSTRATIONS, BUT THE HEALTH ORDER THAT GOES EVERY SINGLE STORE. WHAT THE STATE CAN DO PRINCIPLES AND CONVEY DIFFERENT INDUSTRIES." QUESTION ON THAT. I WOULD EXPECT, AND MAYBE WOULD EXPECT THAT SINCE BERNALILLO COUNTY BY

AS WE SIT HERE, VERY MUCH AND IDENTIFIED INDUSTRIES, WOULD BE EASILY ABLE TO CRITERIA, BUT THEY'VE BEEN THIS LONG SWEEPING OF A THING. HAVE WE GONE WRONG HERE INDUSTRIES AND STORES NUANCED WAY? >> Tom: YEAH, YOU KNOW, GOOD STUDIES OUT THERE. YOU CIRCULATED THAT REALLY KIND OF AS FAR AS CRITERIA ABOUT AND WHICH STORES ARE HERE'S THE THING THAT'S SMALL BUSINESS BUSINESS, AS WE CAN SEE, BIG BOX STORES ARE GOING THE SMALLER AND SO THERE WAS ABOUT TWO WENT INTO ESTABLISHING THE LEAST THAT'S WHAT THE SHARED EARLY ON, THAT THEY REALLY PROTECT NEW

THE PUBLIC HEALTH ORDERS 11th, AND SINCE THAT TIME WITH DIFFERENT CRITERIA ALL BUSINESSES, AS FAR AS, COMPANIES HAVE REGISTERED THE RULES, THEY'VE CHECKED STATE SAYS THAT THEY'RE OF A SUDDEN IT'S JUST THAT DOESN'T COUNT ANYMORE SO, IN ESSENCE, THE RUG UNDERNEATH A LOT OF SMALL THAN WHAT WE SAW WITH THE GRANTED, NOBODY IS REALLY RIGHT NOW, EVERYBODY IS STEPS AS FAR AS THE TRAVEL BUT WHEN YOU LOOK AT WHAT LODGER'S TAX, IT'S JUST INDUSTRY, HAS SO YOU HAVE COMPANIES THAT THEN THEY HAD THE RULES

THEY'RE FOLLOWING THEM. IT IMPACTS SMALL >> Gene: HEY, GIOVANNA, AS WE ALL KNOW, HUGE WE TALKED ABOUT THIS A ARE PEOPLE MY PEER GROUP, MAYBE IT'S ON FACEBOOK AND STUFF, I MADE FOR THANKSGIVING, WHAT ARE YOU >> Giovanna: OH, MY GOSH. WELL, FIRST OF ALL, I JUST TOM WAS SAYING, AND I JUST NOTHING ABOUT THIS LIKE, LET'S JUST TAKE THE IT'S JUST NOT FAIR. AND THE FACT THAT WE'RE BUSINESS -- AND I GET IT. I'M A SMALL BUSINESS GRANTED, I DON'T HAVE TOTALLY DIFFERENT. BUT IT'S NOT FAIR. IT'S NOT AS LAURA SAID, THE MENTAL IT'S INCREDIBLY DAMAGING BIGGEST ASSET, WHICH IS

SO BUSINESSES ARE MADE UP TAKE CARE OF OUR HUMANS, IT'S JUST NOT BUT FOR THANKSGIVING, ALL SHARED OUR PLANS. WE'RE ALL STAYING HOME. WE'RE NOT SHARING THE PEOPLE THAT AND I THINK THAT IS THE THUMB HERE, IS THAT THAT SAFE AND KEEP OTHERS SAFE. YOU KNOW, WE ALL HAVE WANT TO SEE AGAIN NEXT REALLY, YOU KNOW, OUR I DON'T THINK THAT WE HAVE LIKE, I DON'T THINK I THINK WE CAN STILL GRATEFUL, WE CAN EAT THING, WE JUST NEED TO PUBLIC HEALTH ORDER. >> Gene:

>> Dan: IT'S INTERESTING I'M HEARING WE'RE WE WERE SUPPOSED TO WE WERE ACTUALLY MY WIFE HAS LAID DOWN THE HERE WITH JUST OUR FAMILY. I THINK THE BIGGEST HURDLE FIRST OF ALL LET ME SAY, SHE'S DOING THE I MAY NOT AGREE WITH ATTACK HER LIKE SHE'S TO FIGURE OUT HOW TO RUIN NEW YOU CAN ONLY DO WHAT INFORMATION YOU'VE BUT I THINK THE THING TO OTHERS ARE SAYING, THERE -- AND I'M NOT PICKING USING IT AS AN EXAMPLE. WHEN YOU SEE STATE-AT-HOME THEN THE GOVERNOR IS I THINK THAT'S PEOPLE ARE LIKE, WAIT A OUT, WHY CAN'T I GO OUT? SO I WILL TELL YOU, IT'S THAT I KNOW THAT

EVEN THE ONES THAT ARE HAVING SOME I WILL TELL YOU THEY'RE PEOPLE THAT THEY DON'T WE NORMALLY HAVE A PARTY THANKSGIVING AT A FRIEND WE GO TO SAL'S HOUSE. CANCELED. WE'RE NOT DOING THAT. EVERYBODY IS STAYING HOME DO SOME OF THIS >> Gene: THERE YOU GO. WE'RE OUT OF TIME ON THAT WITH THE SECRETARY DESIGNATE >> Dr. Gonzales: WE DO PAST THIS SURGE. AS DR. McKEE NOTED, WE'RE HEALTH CARE WORKERS, BUT OF HAVING TO GO BUT IT IS VERY IMPORTANT. >> Gene: DR. TRACIE TIME TO ANSWER THE CALL THE POPULATION HEALTH HOSPITAL AND BECOME THE STATE'S THIS WEEK, NMIF

KAMERICK GRABBED A FEW TIME TO TALK ABOUT THE IMPACT ON VULNERABLE SHE'LL APPROACH THE JOB >> Megan: THANK YOU FOR ON NEW MEXICO InFOCUS. >> Dr. Collins: >> Megan: COVID-19 IS EVERYONE'S MIND RIGHT NOW. HOW HAVE YOU WORKED ON THE AT THE UNIVERSITY >> Dr. Collins: SO I'VE UNIVERSITY OF NEW MEXICO PROTOCOLS FOR REOPENING STUDENTS, FACULTY AND EMPLOYEES SO I WAS INVOLVED WITH MESSAGING AND ALSO, HELPING WITH HOW WE STAND UP AND THEN ALSO WITH SO THOSE HAVE BEEN MY PANDEMIC, IN ADDITION COLLEGE OF POPULATION EPIDEMIOLOGISTS WITHIN THE

UNDERSTANDING THE EVIDENCE >> Megan: WHAT ASPECTS OF DRAWN FROM WHY YOU DECIDED POPULATION HEALTH? >> Dr. Collins: YOU KNOW, DEFINITELY AS THE MULTIPLE DISCIPLINES, BUT HEALTH CARE DELIVERY. SO FOR ME, THIS PANDEMIC VALUE OF PUBLIC HEALTH PHYSICIANS, NURSES, OTHER WORKING TOGETHER TO CONTAINING OR CONTROLLING >> Megan: THE LAST HEALTH ABOUT THE MAGNITUDE OF THE DANGER OF BURNOUT. WHY TAKE THIS >> Dr. Collins: YEAH, AND I THINK SECRETARY SHE REALLY STEPPED I FEEL LIKE FOR ME, I'M

WE HAVE TO START THINKING VACCINE ONCE WE HAVE AN MAKING SURE THAT WE DO AS AN OPPORTUNITY TO YOU KNOW, I CAME TO NEW NEW COLLEGE, THE SECOND OF POPULATION HEALTH, AND AND I SEE STEPPING IN HELP WITH THE DEPARTMENT ANOTHER OPPORTUNITY TO >> Megan: HOW WILL YOU FOR YOURSELF AND >> Dr. Collins: YES. SO MY APPROACH TO AVOIDING SURE THAT I SPEND QUALITY SPENDING TIME ALONE, THEN MAKING TIME I WANT TO ALSO ENSURE THAT FOLKS AT DOH, SO COMMITMENTS AND

PERSONAL TIME SO THAT THEY'RE WORKING 24/7, EVEN RESPOND TO THIS PANDEMIC HOURS, JUST ENSURING THAT TIME OFF. >> Megan: HOW DO YOU PLAN TO FOR POPULATION HEALTH TO YOUR >> Dr. Collins: I THINK FROM MAKING SURE THAT AND SO MY PASSION FOR RESEARCH, I LOVE TAKING UNDERSTANDING THE NEEDS THROUGHOUT THE STATE AND THAT PASSION WILL THE SECRETARY FOR THE >> Megan: THE PANDEMIC DISPROPORTIONATE IMPACT ON LOW-INCOME COMMUNITIES. PEOPLE EITHER CANNOT WORK IN THE ECONOMIC TURMOIL.

HOW DO YOU PLAN TO GUIDE STATE WITH THOSE >> Dr. Collins: YEAH, I'M THE FOLKS WHO ARE THERE TO ARE FOR THE COMMUNITIES COMMUNITIES, AS WELL. WE REALLY HAVE TO MAKE ESSENTIAL VS. NONESSENTIAL THAT WE'RE WHO ARE MOST FRAGILE. SO THE FRONTLINE WORKERS DELIVERING HEALTH CARE, AND THEY NEED THE N95s. WE ALSO NEED TO THINK GROCERY STORE WORKERS, PUBLIC TRANSPORTATION. SO WE NEED TO MAKE SURE SUPPLIES FOR MULTIPLE CAN KEEP THEMSELVES SAFE THEIR EMPLOYMENT, AS WELL THINGS TO COVER THE EYES. WE FOCUS ON THE NOSE AND YOU CAN ALSO CONTACT THIS SO IT'S IMPORTANT FOR

EYES, AS WELL, MAYBE WITH GOGGLES TO TRY AND >> Megan: NEW MEXICO WAS LONG TIME IN CONTROLLING SEEING RECORD CASE NUMBERS OUR HEALTH CARE SYSTEM. DO YOU HAVE A SENSE OF WHY MUCH DOH AND OTHER BRING IT UNDER CONTROL? >> Dr. Collins: YEAH, I CURRENTLY WITH THE IN PLACE IS AN EFFORT TO I DEFINITELY THINK WE MESSAGING AROUND WEARING A AND DISTANCING, AND WE TO NOT ENGAGE IN PRIVATE MORE THAN FIVE PEOPLE, A SMALL NUMBER, AND YOU THE FOLKS WHO SO AS WE APPROACH AT THE HOLIDAY SEASON,

PEOPLE REALLY LIKE TO UNFORTUNATELY FOR 2020, I REALLY WANT TO ENCOURAGE WAIT ONE MORE YEAR, GET A SOLID VACCINE AND >> Megan: A FRIEND OF MINE A LETTER THIS WEEK TO THE ARGUES THAT WE NEED MESSAGING AND REALLY SHOW COVID, MUCH AS WE DID WHAT DO YOU THINK? >> Dr. Collins: YEAH, YOU NEWS, YOU CAN SEE THE CASE UP EVERY DAY. WE'RE AT NEARLY A QUARTER I THINK THE MORE WE CAN PUBLIC, THE BETTER, AND MORE GRAPHIC WILL GET THE I'M NOT A HUGE FAN OF IF WE NEED TO GET THE FOR THOSE WHO ARE

NOT A REAL VIRUS, IT'S NOT TAKE ADDITIONAL MEASURES. SO I THINK IT'S REALISTIC >> Megan: CAN I ASK WHY ARE YOU NOT DO YOU THINK THAT'S NOT >> Dr. Collins: IT'S NOT IT'S JUST THAT IF WE CAN BEING BRUTAL OR GRAPHIC, BUT IF IT'S NEEDED, WE CAN >> Megan: MY FRIEND ALSO STRONGER ENFORCEMENT ON HEALTH ORDERS. THAT INCLUDES EVEN BEING MORE AGGRESSIVE DO WE NEED TO STOP HOPING >> Dr. Collins: YEAH, I THINK THAT WHERE WE CAN SETTINGS. IT IS VERY HARD TO ASK SOMEONE'S HOME AND BREAK EVEN THOSE EFFORTS HAVE PEOPLE REPORTING THAT THAT THEY KNOW ISN'T SAFE

THERE'S NOT BEEN MUCH ENFORCEMENT, BECAUSE SO I THINK AS MUCH AS WE THAT I ACTUALLY AM IN I JUST THINK IT'S GOING TO LAW ENFORCEMENT TO START BREAK UP LARGE GATHERINGS. WE REALLY NEED TO TRUST THIS IS NOT THE TIME >> Megan: A SURVEY THAT'S THE LAST WEEK FOUND THAT PLAN TO TRAVEL, OR PLAN GATHERINGS OF TEN IS THERE ANYTHING THAT WE AND CURTAIL THIS? >> Dr. Collins: YES. IF YOU DON'T WANT TO LOVED ONES AT RISK AND NOT HAVE GATHERINGS, LARGE YOU JUST MENTIONED. IF YOU'RE THINKING, OH,

GOT TO SEE MOM OR MIGHT SEE THEM AT COME BACK HOME AND YOU MAY OR EVEN BE ABLE TO ZOOM BEEN EXPOSED TO COVID. THIS IS NOT THE TIME TO YOU TO DO, AND THAT'S GATHERINGS. PLEASE DON'T. >> Megan: OF COURSE, WE SIMPLY CANNOT WORK FRONTLINE WORKERS, OR THEY THEY LIVE WITH HOW CAN PUBLIC OFFICIALS FOLKS LIKE THOSE? >> Dr. Collins: YEAH. SO REALLY TRYING TO OPTIONS FOR KEEPING PEOPLE HOMES, WHETHER THAT BE CAN PLACE PEOPLE IF THEY SO IT REALLY IS OPTIONS WHERE PEOPLE CAN NEED TO ISOLATE. >> Megan: ARE THERE

ABLE TO IDENTIFY THAT YOU MIGHT BETTER BE ABLE TO >> Dr. Collins: YOU KNOW, I AM AT THIS POINT, I'M STILL I'M SURE AS I TRANSITION LEARN MORE AND HAVE A WHERE WE CAN OFF-LOAD SOME OTHER AGENCIES, BUT RIGHT ANYTHING THAT WE REALLY >> Megan: HOW DO YOU SEE COMING ALONGSIDE OTHER SERVICES, AS YOU START YOUR >> Dr. Collins: I SEE IT CAN HELP EACH OTHER DO A BUILDING ON OUR EXPERTISE DEPARTMENT CAN FOCUS ON A OTHER CAN ADDRESS I THINK IT'S THE BUT I LOOK FORWARD TO DEPARTMENTS, INCLUDING

>> Megan: DO YOU HAVE ANY BETTER HANDLE THE SPREAD >> Dr. Collins: YES, THAT LIKE MANY OF YOUR I THINK IT'S UNDERSTANDING THE CORRECTIONAL FACILITY SPREADING PEOPLE OUT AND THEN CERTAINLY LOOKING RELEASING PERSONS WHO ARE CLOSE TO BEING RELEASED, >> Megan: WHAT ARE OTHER WORK ON AS DOH SECRETARY? >> Dr. Collins: WELL, CANNABIS AND UNDERSTANDING THERE'S SEVERAL OTHER LEARNING ABOUT, AND I'M GATHERING MORE INFORMATION WEEKS UNTIL MY OFFICIAL DECEMBER 14th. SO I'LL KNOW MORE

>> Megan: AND FINALLY, I SHARE HOW YOU DECIDED TO YOUR UPBRINGING. >> Dr. Collins: YES. SO IT WAS REALLY KIND IN HIGH SCHOOL, I LIKED A CHEMISTRY TEACHER ABOUT INTEREST, AND HE INFORMED COULD BECOME A CHEMIST, MEDICAL SCHOOL. AND SO I THOUGHT, HMM, AND THEN I HAD AN ISSUE HIGH SCHOOL WHERE I FELT GOOD CARE. SHE WAS ACCUSED OF DRUG HAD A SMALL BOWEL AND IT TOOK A LOT OF AND EVEN AN ATTEMPT TO FLY WITH HER SISTER, WHO SHE DIDN'T MAKE IT BECAUSE NOTICED SHE LOOKED A WELL, SHE WAS DUSKY, EFFECTIVELY, SO SHE WAS HAD EMERGENCY SURGERY,

BEING IN DENTON, TEXAS -- WE'D TRAVEL EVERY WEEKEND WAY BACK TO OKLAHOMA TO BUT IT WAS THAT EXPERIENCE INTEREST IN CHEMISTRY AND AS A RESIDENT IN REALIZED I LOVED TAKING WANTED TO HAVE MORE OF AN CARE, WHICH LED ME TO DEGREES IN PUBLIC HEALTH AND THOSE ADDITIONAL ENGAGED IN UNDERSTANDING HEALTH AND THOSE UPSTREAM HEALTH AND HEALTH LED ME DOWN THE PATH >> Megan: DR. COLLINS, WE WITH US AS YOU MAKE THIS TO HEAD THE THANK YOU. >> Dr. Collins: YES, THANK >> Gene: AS WE JUST HEARD

NATIVE COMMUNITIES HAVE BY COVID-19. IT WAS A SHOCK, THEN, WHEN BRIAN VALLO ANNOUNCED THE CLOSING EMERGENCY AND ACOMA-CANONCITO THAT'S 25 BEDS SERVING GOVERNOR VALLO CALLED IT SIMPLY UNACCEPTABLE." NOW, LAGUNA PLANS TO OPEN AND THE NAVAJO NATION FACILITY A FEW YEARS BACK, BETTER HEALTHCARE. BUT LAURA, THE GOVERNOR'S DOES HE HAVE A POINT HERE? >> Laura: I MEAN, THIS IS I REALLY FEEL LIKE PEOPLE ON THE INFORMATION THEY NOT NECESSARILY TAKING IMPACT ON OTHER ONE WHERE PROBABLY MORE BEEN BETTER, MAKING A STAKEHOLDERS, AND I THINK FOR ANYBODY IN

LEADERSHIP IS IMPORTANT, THOSE TOUGH DECISIONS. THAT'S WHY PEOPLE ARE IN BUT IT'S ALSO GOOD TO TRY YOU CAN AND BUY-IN FROM SOMETHING THAT DRASTIC VERY, YOU KNOW, DIFFICULT IMPACT ON COMMUNITIES THAT SO I THINK THAT IT'S HARD CRITICIZE A PERSON'S INFORMATION THEY HAD, COMMUNICATION AND INPUT BEEN HELPFUL TO AVOID SUCH >> Gene: GIOVANNA, THAT HE SAID THERE WAS TRIBE PRIOR TO THE HOSPITAL UNITS. IT'S HARD TO IMAGINE THAT BUT IT SEEMS LIKE THAT'S THERE'S AN ISSUE OF SCRAMBLE HERE ESPECIALLY

SOME OF THE TRIBAL COULD SOMETHING HAVE BEEN BETTER FROM THE VIEW >> Giovanna: YEAH. I MEAN, AS LAURA SAID, HANDLED WELL. THERE ARE DIFFICULT MADE AND LONG-TERM ISN'T LOOKING AT THE THE FACT THAT THE FEDERAL KNOW, TO HAVE THESE WITH THE PUEBLO, AND THAT A PROBLEM. AND SO I THINK THAT WE'RE WE HAVE ALL THE THIS, BUT CLEARLY, YOU WRONG AND SOMEONE'S NOT I MEAN, REGARDLESS OF MAKING WHAT DECISION, RESIDENTS DON'T HAVE ANYMORE, AND THE NEAREST THERE'S ONLY

SO IT'S A REALLY BIG KNOW, MORE -- IT >> Gene: TOM, THOSE ARE TOP, THAT'S GOOD NEWS, SOME POINT, AND INDIAN DIDN'T HAVE ENOUGH STAFF THE ACOMA-CANONCITO-LAGUNA STAFFING ISSUE. THEY'RE LEANING IN MY GUT, IT SAYS THAT'S BEEN ADDRESSED A YEAR AGO, AT THE BEGINNING SOMETHING JUST SEEMS TO WHAT'S YOUR SENSE OF THAT JUST NOT ENOUGH >> Tom: I THINK IT'S A REASONING THERE JUST ARE NOT ENOUGH MEDICAL WORKERS, THAT ARE BECAUSE THAT IS A SPECIFIC I THINK WE'VE SEEN THE MANIFESTED IN ACOMA, SAME ISSUES ARE IMPACTING

CENTER IN ALBUQUERQUE. THEY HAVE 200 BEDS, BUT BRING THAT DREAM TO ADDITIONAL BEDS SO RIGHT NOW, IT'S A HUGE THEN ALSO THE OTHER ISSUE NOW THE MESSENGERS, FROM THE FEDERAL LEVEL, WE WITH FRESH CREDENTIALS TO THE REASONS WHY DECISIONS THEY WERE MADE IN ACOMA, TYPE OF CRITERIA THAT WE THESE OTHER HOSPITAL ROOMS >> Gene: DAN, LET ME READ TOM UDALL, WHO WAS ALSO SENATE INDIAN AFFAIRS "TRIBES ACROSS THE NATION RESILIENCE, BUT THEIR RISING TO THE CHALLENGE. IT'S WRONG, IT'S

COMPLETE IHS NEEDS TO PROVIDE CLEAR THE PEOPLE OF ACOMA, GOING TO BE ABLE TO HAVE HOSPITAL CARE DURING THIS PRETTY STRONG WORDS THERE. WHAT DO YOU MAKE >> Dan: YEAH, I MEAN, THIS SHOULD BE MAKING I THINK THE SHEAR FACT TOUCHED ON THIS, RIGHT, FIRST OF ALL, WHEN THE THE BIGGEST NEWS EFFECTING NATIVE SOME OF THE BIGGEST HOT THIS FIRST CAME, WERE SO NOW YOU'RE TAKING TWO OR THREE INDIVIDUALS THEY'RE SAYING, LOOK, I'VE I'M NOT STAYING YOU CAN'T LEAVE A FACILITY IT'S AN EMERGENCY ROOM TRAINED TO HANDLE AND SO I THINK SENATOR

OF WAITING UNTIL THIS THE INDIAN HEALTH SERVICES SHOULD HAVE BEEN LOOKING SAYING, HEY, MAYBE WE PEOPLE THAT WORK AT THIS AND WE SHOULD HAVE A SHOULD DO SOMETHING. NOW, I THINK THEY'RE NOT THE FEDERAL GOVERNMENT, WAYS TO ADDRESS THIS, NOW, I'M NOT SURE HOW WOULD BE TO EMBRACE THAT, CIVILIAN YOU'RE GOING TO SEND ARMY CORP. DOCTORS, YOU CAN SEND LISTEN, WE'RE STATIONING 90 DAYS. BUT THAT TAKES A WHEN YOU START SEEING THIS SEE THE STUFF BEING EVERYBODY JUST DECIDES TO WHICH DOESN'T HELP THE HELP THE MOST. WHO NEEDS THE HELP THE LIKE SENATOR UDALL AND TALK ABOUT THIS, HOW DO WE

WE GET MILITARY FOLKS THE TRIBES ARE ONBOARD TO THEIR SOVEREIGN TRIBAL WE'VE GOT THE BUT I THINK IT'S A YOU'RE TAKING CIVILIANS THE HOTTEST SPOTS THAT YOU DAY, AND I THINK THEY'RE TO STAY HERE, THE MONEY'S LEAVE, AND WHEN THEY LEAVE LEFT THAT CAN MAN THE YOU WITH NO OPTION. >> Giovanna: I THINK THE I DON'T THINK IT'S AN ISN'T ENOUGH STAFFING AND OUT THERE, ALTHOUGH THAT BUT AS FAR AS WHAT I THOUGHT IT WAS MORE ABOUT BUILDING THE NEW FACILITY THE STAFF WERE OFFERED THEY WERE NOT GOOD

OUT OF STAYING ON. AND SO IT'S A MUCH MORE I THINK SENATOR UDALL AND RIGHT TO BE ASKING THESE >> Dan: I WOULD ALSO SAY, LOOK AT HOW MANY NATIVE IN NEW MEXICO, AND THE IT'S NOT IN MESCALERO, JICARILLAS RIGHT NOW. SO EVERYBODY ELSE SEEMS TO HOW TO MAKE THIS WORK, AND SOME HEARTBURN WITH THIS, THEIR CITIZENS, BUT IT ARE ALL THE OTHER TRIBAL HARMED BY THESE ACTIONS? THEY DON'T SEEM SO AT SOME POINT, TO PUT THE POLITICS ASIDE, WAY TO SOLVE THIS, BECAUSE HURTING ARE THE TRIBAL THAT CAN'T GET THE >> Gene: GOOD STUFF, DAN. GOING THE PANEL HAS ONE LEGISLATURE,

>> Gene: AS YOU'VE SEEN ON HOSPITALS AND HEALTH CARE CALL FOR BETTER PUBLIC WE HEARD FROM DOCTORS AT AND UNM AGAIN THIS WEEK, CAN DO IF FAMILY WON'T HOLIDAYS. AGAIN, WHILE THEY HAVE HOW TO COPE WITH ANOTHER THERE'S NO COVID SAFE THE OFFICIAL WORD >> Dr. McKee: I THINK OUR FOREMOST, NOT TO GATHER YOUR POD, AND THINK ABOUT DINNER OR DROPPING DOORSTEPS, THAT WOULD BE OUR IF YOU ARE GOING TO THE LUXURY OF TIME AND YOU'RE COMING IN FROM ELSEWHERE,

THERE'S ALSO A FEW THINGS THAT ONE POD IS DOING FAMILIES WHO HAVE NOT BEEN ARE NOT ALL INVOLVED IT SEEMS THE CDC YOU HAVE NOT HAD CONTACT COMING INTO CONTACT WITH WEAR A MASK, EVEN INDOORS, AND DRINKING, TO KEEP THAT SO IF YOU HAVE THE ABILITY YOUR MEAL OUTSIDE, A HEATERS, THAT WOULD BE A THANKSGIVING, AS WELL. BUT, YOU KNOW, ALL SAID COMMUNITY TO THINK ABOUT THANKSGIVING DINNER TABLE THESE DECISIONS.

>> Dr. Gonzales: WE ARE FILLED WELL BEYOND WE KNOW THAT THESE POLICY POSITIVE IMPACT ON HELP IN OUR ICUs, AND WILL CITIZENS TO DO ALL THE ENGAGE IN THOSE RISKY BEHAVIORS WE DO HAVE TO FIND WAYS AS DR. McKEE NOTED, WE'RE HEALTH CARE WORKERS BUT AS HAVING TO GO UNDER BUT IT IS VERY IMPORTANT. WE CAN BE CREATIVE, GET PAST THIS. SO AS SOMEBODY WHO ENJOYS I'VE DONE QUITE A BIT OF ENCOURAGE PEOPLE TO DO AS WAYS TO SUPPORT LOCAL DOING THE THINGS

SO I'VE SIGNED UP FOR A LOCAL RESTAURANTS AND AS A LOCAL BUSINESS AS I ENJOY. >> Gene: SAYING NEW MEXICO PANDEMIC RELIEF PLAN, AND LACK OF FEDERAL ACTION, LUJAN-GRISHAM WANTS TO BETTER CRAFT AN POTENTIALLY SHE'D ALSO ACT FUNDING, TOO. THIS CAME AS A BIT OF A DAN, IS THIS A THINK-FAST/ MOST OF THE LADIES AND SENATE CAN RESPOND IN KIND OR DOES THIS FEEL A LITTLE >> Dan: YEAH, I MEAN, EMERGENCY SESSION RIGHT SESSION, NORMALLY WHEN BODE WELL FOR THE YOU COME IN. EVERYBODY RALLIES AROUND, FOR TWO MONTHS, I'M NOW GOING AND THE LEGISLATURE

PLACE THAT PUMPS YOU KNOW, EVERYBODY KIND THEN THE BILL GETS HAVING THE HEARINGS SO, I MEAN, I THINK IT'S TO GET LEGISLATORS TO QUICKLY, ESPECIALLY WHEN GOT BUSINESSES CALLING THINGS THAT ARE HAPPENING, TRYING TO COME IN, YOU'VE GOT THE LEGISLATURE TRYING GOING TO BE ABLE TO OIL AND GAS IS DOING. THERE JUST SEEMS TO BE A TO FIGURE THIS OUT IN JUST I'M NOT SURE IT'S >> Gene: GIOVANNA, BEYOND THINK WOULD BE THE MORE HELP AT THIS POINT? A MORE ACCESSIBLE MAYBE UNEMPLOYMENT PAYMENT, OR A TAX CREDIT? WHAT'S THE BEST WAY WE GOING TO HAVE A SPECIAL? WHAT SHOULD THEY BE GOING TO CONVENE?

>> Giovanna: WELL, REALLY CONSIDER, YOU KNOW, HOW TO OF THESE PEOPLE THAT HAVE BEING LAID OFF OR JUST SO THERE'S A BIG BUDGET THAT IT'S APPROPRIATE TO DEAL WITH THIS, AND THEN, HAVE THE REGULAR SESSION. I DON'T KNOW WHAT THE HOW THE FUNDING I THINK THAT'S THE WORK AND HOPEFULLY THEY HAVE AND MAKING SOME PLANS. I DO WANT TO SAY, THE RIGHT, WE HAVEN'T HAD THE NEEDED, AND THAT IS I THINK THAT THERE ARE

WERE DISCUSSING THIS BUT THE THING IS THAT FOR THOSE DOLLARS, IT'S THERE NEEDS TO BE SOME IN PLACE TO ASSIST THOSE THE DOLLARS, BECAUSE BUSINESSES ARE >> Gene: TOM, THE GOVERNOR THERE SAYING THIS IS WHAT MAYBE THAT'S A GOOD WAY TO BUT SAME QUESTION, IF WHAT'S THE BEST BET FOR PAYMENT, TAX DEFERMENT? WHAT'S YOUR BACK-OF-THE- >> Tom: YEAH, SO PLAYING WHAT I WILL SAY IS I THINK SUCCESSFUL WITH WHATEVER INDEED CALL A SPECIAL IT SIMPLE, BECAUSE JUST DEAD IN THE WATER. SO WITH A 24-HOUR SESSION, AND IT SHOULD HAPPEN IN

AS OPPOSED TO SANTA FE, WE CAN TACKLE THAT -- >> Gene: GO AHEAD AND PICK UP ON YOUR FIRST POINT. THAT'S A GOOD >> Tom: YEAH, IT REALLY VERY SIMPLE, SOMETHING UNEMPLOYED, HELPS SMALL ENTAIL A WHOLE LOT OF WITH IT. AND AS A QUICK FOLLOW-UP, ABOUT THE SESSION BEING FE CONVENTION CENTER, WHY ALBUQUERQUE CONVENTION HAVE GREATER ACCESS, YOU PUBLIC, AND YOU HAVE A ACCOMMODATE MORE PEOPLE AND THEN WHEN EVERYTHING WHATEVER THAT LOOKS LIKE, TO SANTA FE. >> Gene: THAT'S A POINT. LAURA, WOULD YOU I'VE SEEN PEOPLE ON FACEBOOK IT MAKES SENSE. IT'S NOT AS MUCH TRAVEL THEY SAVE AN HOUR, >> Laura: I THINK IN TERMS THAT BIG OF A DEAL, BUT EQUIPMENT, IT'S GOING

MOVING DOWN THE STREET TO CENTER, WHEN IT COMES TO BECAUSE YOU'RE STILL GOING AMOUNT OF EQUIPMENT PRINTERS GOING, COMPUTERS SECURITY, WEB ACCESS, ALL MEAN, I THINK IT DEPENDS SOCIAL DISTANCE AND HAVE MOVING THINGS DOWN THE EFFICIENT AND LESS COSTLY THINGS TO ALBUQUERQUE. >> Gene: BUT LAURA, DO I THEY JUST WANT TO USE THE HEARINGS AND NOT >> Laura: EVEN IF THEY THINK THAT THERE'S A FAIR HAS TO BE MOVED. THERE'S A FAIR AMOUNT OF BE SET UP. IT'S A LOGISTICAL THE LEGISLATURE. WE'RE NOT A MOBILE KIND >> Giovanna: AND THEY'RE

CAPITOL BUILDING TO DO ALL OF THE COMMITTEE SO, YOU KNOW, I DON'T KNOW DISCUSSION ABOUT JUST >> Tom: THAT WOULD BE A ONLINE, BECAUSE WHEN GOVERNMENT, THERE'S GOVERNMENT THAN TO GO INTO KNOW WHAT OTHER TYPES -- ACCOUNTABILITY. >> Laura: THERE'S A LOT OF ARE STILL CONDUCTING THE PRC MEETS EVERY WEEK >> Giovanna: AND WE'RE WHERE WE CAN DO THINGS LIKE, WE'RE IN AN AND WE NEED TO BE MAKING AND I THINK -- I'VE BEEN INTERIM COMMITTEE PROBABLY, AND I'VE BEEN I MEAN, THE LEGISLATORS IT, THE STAFF IS REALLY

PUBLIC COMMENTS SECTION OF >> Gene: LET ME PICK YOU JUST MENTIONED PUBLIC ACCESS, DAN, IS REPUBLICANS MADE THIS STARTED KIND OF GOING PUBLIC ACCESS IS NOT DEMOCRACY HAVING CAN WE PULL THIS OFF AND GETTING THE SAME AMOUNT OF >> Dan: I DON'T KNOW HOW HAD IN THE FIRST I MEAN, COMMITTEE WHEN THE HOT BUTTON TOPICS FROM COMING IN, AND PEOPLE THE CHAIRS. AT THE END OF THE DAY, YOU NO DOUBT WE'RE IN A BUT EVERY TIME WE HAVE WILLING TO GIVE UP OPPORTUNITIES AND GIVE UP BECAUSE WE THINK IT HELPS IS WE GIVE IT UP AND WHEN ITSELF, WE NEVER GET POTENTIAL PROBLEM.

IF ALL OF A SUDDEN THE THROUGH ZOOM MEETINGS -- THE PANDEMIC. OH, NOW WE'RE THROUGH THE TO RIDE UP FROM ROSWELL VOTE SITTING AT MY HOUSE DO ANYTHING. IT BECOMES A AND ESPECIALLY IN A STATE ACCESS TO THE INTERNET RIGHT NOW THERE'S A LOT OF THAT IF THEY DON'T HAVE WALK THE HALLS AND GO TO A NOT GOING TO KNOW >> Giovanna: AND THAT GOES NEEDING TO INCREASE SO I THINK THAT SHOULD BECAUSE WHEN I WAS INTERIM COMMITTEE HEARINGS FROM PEOPLE FROM ALL OVER NEVER SEEN IN THE THERE GIVING THEIR TWO EACH LEGISLATOR HAD TO I THOUGHT THAT

SO I THINK THERE ARE SOME HAVING THAT. >> Dan: I WOULD TELL YOU SAY THAT EACH LEGISLATOR AT THEM, I CAN TELL YOU SIT THERE AND LOOK AT THEM BUT I CAN TELL YOU, I PERSONALLY INVOLVED IN TESTIFY AND YOU WOULDN'T YOU WOULDN'T GIVE THEM THEN YOU'D WALK OUT IN THE THEY FOUND YOU TO LET YOU I GUESS YOU COULD TRY TO PEOPLE WHAT YOU THINK, BUT REALLY HARD NOT TO HAVE. THERE WAS A LOT OF I MEAN, I COULD GO ON ACCOUNTABILITY I SAW IN CAME, WHEN CONSTITUENTS RIGHT, LAURA, I SUPPORTED WANT, AND YOU'D SEE LAURA I NEED TO RETHINK I JUST THINK THAT WHEN YOU LOSE THAT PERSONAL OUR CITIZEN LEGISLATURE I MEAN, IF WE'RE GOING TO THEN WE OUGHT TO TALK ABOUT NOT

WHAT MAKES OUR STATE SO AS A LEGISLATOR, YOU'RE YOUR DISTRICT, INTERACTING COME UP, ANYBODY CAN WE MEET AT CERTAIN TIMES, THESE TIMES IS BECAUSE OF COMMUNITY, IT WAS SO HEAVY STATE, THIS IS WHEN THEIR THEY CAN ALL COME UP. IT'S JUST INTERESTING, TECHNOLOGY, WE'RE MOVING >> Giovanna: LET'S ALSO PEOPLE THAT REALLY HAVE PAID LOBBYISTS. I MEAN, YOU KNOW, I GET IT CAN WALK UP TO YOUR SESSION, AND THAT'S ALSO, THE REALITY OF IT REALLY IS THE LOBBYISTS >> Gene: I'M NOT SURE IF I I KNOW YOU'RE THROWING A DAN MAKES A GOOD POINT, STUFF, THAT

IT HAS VALUE FOR LET ME GET TOM IN ON THIS. YOU SPENT A LITTLE BIT OF WELL, WE'VE GOT TOM GARRITY, WHAT DO YOU ACCESS AND THE POSSIBILITY A CRITICAL POINT? >> Tom: TO DAN'S POINT, LEGISLATION, FOR LACK OF A OUTSIDE OF THE COMMITTEE FACE-TO-FACE CONTACT, AND BEING NEFARIOUS OR JUST WHEN YOU CAN ACTUALLY HEY, YOU KNOW WHAT, LET'S PIECE OF LEGISLATION. I THINK THE MORE WE CAN REALLY CREATE MORE OF AN CAN SAFELY GET IN THE SAME IDEAS AND POLITICS, I >> Gene: GOOD STUFF GUYS. THANKS TO YOU ALL FOR THIS WEEK. WE REALLY APPRECIATE STAY SAFE >> Gene: OVER THE WEEKEND, PSYCHIATRIST ASKING WHY

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