Inflection Point with Lauren Schiller; #134; How A'shanti Gholar is Getting More Women of Color in Office

eight i learned schiller and this is an inflection point with stories of how women arise out on today's episode we never say anything when there's multiple white man running for office at the minute there's also people of color and that we can be doing that we just see the one person to be the sole representative of the community we need to make sure that were also not thinking that people cholera can only represent people of color this is such an integrated it obvious that we are only limited to representing people that looked like you can only hear that conversation in an inflection point you can hi robin was they said

that action and i have a very interesting story about how it into politics i was just watching tv one day with my mom and she left the room and i change the channel on it ever see and i saw all of these people arguing and it really matter and that's when i actually develop politics it an age of watching please am i going to be a lot of people that look like me a lot of women a lot of women of color and lauren shuler and that is a sharp people are she is the founder of the brown girls get to politics and the national political director for emerge and national organization devoted to getting more democratic women into office and i really got money series interest in politics i was in high school i had that amazing garman teacher that you hear about she was super well connected and she had the candidates command or east a white senate race one of the candidates actually labs enjoy

the ride issue with the fact that he voted against raising the minimum wage and for me it was a very important issue because i have a lot of friends that work part time jobs either to make extra money to support being a teenager archie bring action money home and i thought they should make more money in that people in general should make more money and i asked the candidate why he voted against reasonable wage he said he didn't i said yes you did i can look up your votes and he argued with me just say no he did a reasonable wage and after class he called my garmin teacher and he said to her she was right i didn't vote to raise it i just i like the fact that she called me out an eerie to me yeah they even though i was dying and i couldn't vote i was a

girl i was a young girl who can build the volunteer so every moment that i had to stay are a bunch of reasons and his opponent ended up winning a race a school i saw the power of that people had and politics to really get involved and make a change in when i got in college that's when i start getting high when bob with college democrats young democrats and really does being a bowing to sierra has led me to their profession and i have today we age back any younger watching c span i didn't even know it was possible so i'm one of those people who actually is set wake up every day and do the things that they love amazing and that all of that is to say you don't bald faced lie to a room full of high school students are going to say it again just being so many times on politicians' ability to young people all ages think they can be asked their way

through or that we're not paying attention and that we are very much aware of the tires we're not coerced by the things that she do still do and how that's because it's impacting our periods is impacting other key people that we care about and those things really stay with people i've talked to so many young people like yeah so and so asked one time and i knew like me and have it but i got down and i can tell so his house opening track down the road we want to run for higher office or you're running for re election today we're going to hear how a shanty went from watching c span to working for president barack obama when she was in the department of labor she also worked for the dnc and the end of all is the key before joining a merge this is an inflection point with stories of how women rise up so just on jesse had even on c

span could someone has the his audience of slaves this is really funny i spoke acting chairman national security project about two years ago now telling our story itself and i talked about this c span story and see sam was recording it so i actually on cspan talking about my rubber c span as a young girl i love a wow that's an amazing whole area was really really hilarious see that we are like ok i mean what's the what's so great about that is that it's just a testament to yeah i met with a vision and the imagining yourself you know as some really wondering where the people are who look like yale and then sparking your imagination that maybe you could be a making that change and you know an answer to change the face of cspan for starters that a lot of other things and

i tell you all that high aimed at it's again a while to get used to being in this role because even doing the work that i do on a marriage we say all the time other women will be like well you were probably as you know as you run for office and for me was always oh so so as in the sun so will do that and you have to take her and actually get out there a comparable nba the wind to do which are really wow then step up in this basin make change you know i also i'm always curious to me when he said it to the politician in that classroom were you was that just you know you felt comfortable doing that was a thing that you always felt comfortable doing hard it did in that direction definitely did phil carter i was just angry by nasa we see with when and when we get really kingery no matter what age we are the pushback in when my future actually told me he called i was aerosol

lauren and so maestro now are you with this man you know we'll see what happens this year she says she was really proud of me or standing out in pushing back and she told the whole class the next day how he had called and apologize and i never knew what political party she was involved in arrange for secretary ari and she said i saw your name in it were running and i had to show up and support you and i still tell my sins about where you get to this gate here here here for those kinds of teachers while their flour so let's talk about that that's the state of things i am and right now what the statistics around the women of color in office right now and we talk a lot about we need to balance the equation we need to get to fifty fifty in government too many women that specifically thinking about representation of women of color in office where do things we wanted so with that big picture there's twenty thousand elected offices in this country

when they most certainly don't occupy fifty percent of those offices were somewhere between twenty to twenty five percent and when you get to women of color is extremely well in congress there are only a hundred twenty seven women serving forty seven of them are women of color when you look at the wide executive office says there are ninety one women serving only seventeen of those are women of color when you look at state legislatures two thousand one hundred and thirty three are women and only forty three of those are women how are and when you look at when a colour made errors it's really less than twenty four mayors of large cities so we still have a very long way to go in for me when we talk about parity parity really would be fifty one percent for women says wheat says we're fifty one percent of the population by ido when we reach that charity that doesn't mean we're not have parity and every single state that is anywhere

anyhow perry and all the elected offices that isn't mean women of color lgbt q when men and women with disabilities are going to have a hairy when the things i always say is this work really has no end date mare somerset we have to do and even now when we talk about all the historic news that women have made it still won't be until twenty eighty i hate that we get at parity and that means that we don't have to be a when they have the winning at the same rate as they are now so there's still so much more work to be done and when you say twenty in the year twenty eighty and parody do you mean just simply fifty thousand in and man or an attack and so again not accounting for all the various iterations of the women and parade or a past that and respect and more with color so given that that's the case i mean if you were to take this ad geared to provide perspective on where things

stand right now in terms of our representation and if were not a parody how are you feeling about it who we do have an office taking into account the need specifically for people of color and i realize when i asked the question that that's like a very wide group of people so i might actually surpass the west and when i think of the women that we have currently in elected office so proud of the representation that we had and a murder we have are trailblazers less and i tell people i love this lisp i also hate this lettuce because it's the first one man version of how our first lgbt q oh man it is fabulous because these are women who are breaking barriers at the same time why do i still have that list in twenty nineteen it has again there's so much work to be diane and i think well congressman receiving that you know everything that she has that die and give and the fact that you asked her son to gun violence she turned that into empowering herself to be a champion

for all families of the victims of gun violence and now she's sitting in congress fighting for adding a person and that how an issue recently beards who are the first to indigenous women and they didnt get elected until twenty eighteen think of when they breathe in your san francisco the first all men in that art fairs i think wesley here in indiana a rome of ddt she women are breaking barriers i feel an intense sense of pride when i think of these women in everything bad a jail and how in particular they are inspiring other women carson associate or a small singing mexico's she's one of our art alarms she flipped her seat and i was here first not enough to be at a dinner with her and she talked about how this warning came running up to her in the airport and just said to her i watch a race inspired me so much i want to run for office because i saw you do it and that women probably won't take the emerge program

by she was inspired by seniors when an end at the end of the day that is what we need and that is why it makes me get out a bat and do this work every day knowing that these twin and the work that they are doing in their elected office it'll literally inspiring other women yet i love that virtuous circle i mean it's so important and so critical so i mean in terms of in terms of having greater representation in the issues that just keep bubbling up and i had like i can't even believe it's hardly likely that any of these issues could just be solved like you said it's an ongoing process but like i think you know what's been happening in the news lately run for police brutality and you know with that and fairness in our criminal justice system lake and racial disparities are tied all of those issues does it take putting getting more people of color women of color into office to change the systems that perpetuate person

in the aisle one hundred percent and you hit on a big issue for black women in particular which is criminal justice reform and when you look at prosecutors ninety percent of prosecutors are white man so when we talk about changing the criminal justice system that means that we have to change the eighth justice spore form and that means we need more women and women of color in these roles and i'm a part of a group called the twenty twenty backers and justice coalition which is made out of black republicans black democrats you are dedicated to siena criminal justice system change and we just had entered and where we unearth all of these three women prosecutors who were literally doing amazing things and one of them wears armor joe i'm blue da break for rollins out of massachusetts and that means that she is doing in a short period of time to

make this community actually feel that they can trust the person who is in this role a lot of people don't know the power of that district attorneys have this is literally the person who can decide if a kid who has an ounce of marijuana it's off with a warning arizona go to jail for several years they literally have that big an impact on people's lives and we need people in those roles who look like how securely cast in who really know our stories instead of the awful mess and stereotypes that exist al black and brown people it's the same thing about having women at the table in general and that it is the first female majority state legislature in if you look at the bills that they pass it was the gimmick but everything is so women friendly because you had when man who are making the decisions as senate majority leader call con as arrow is an emirate a lot in you know

when we talk about women's issues the sun eater allies these are family issues he's urged me any issues user everyone is shears and we need it when men ran different backgrounds socioeconomic racial ethnic to be helping drop those wires because we were not helping dr found than a hobby hearing negative yeah n n back to the dna that i mean thats a campaign the aclu actually has a has had a campaign running for a while about you know get to know your d at you as a voter have power in terms of who holds the position and how often does that person it's a fundamental question and how often does that particular position come up for a vote as does it is it is a different guy area yeah it is a very different baggage area they can be every year or two to four years and the reflective democracy campaign that a lot of work on this too and they have some great statistics on who da is are they even more touchy maggi hays is still has to

be law enforcement in general sheriffs are elected judges are aware data we need to be focusing on the entire gamut everyone to see the full change in the criminal justice system again especially well with what's happening in oregon with a federal federal level and the judges that are being and now we need some tweets and counterpoints their sister to put it lightly i'll be right back with a shot to go where i learned schiller and this is an inflection point with stories of how women rise you can join our supporters they're making a tax deductible donations and politically radio dot org and clicking the support that this is an inflection point and learned show where

you're listening to a conversation with this article are the national political director for emerged and founder of the brown girl's guide to politics blog and podcast i'm curious about the relationship between movements and politics so enamored singular and then i would you know i was reading about that what something that happened that you were involved and related to black lives matter and the democratic platform ah manages thinking there is a dnc resolution that you championed endorsing black lives matter and then they responded that they intend on interest the dnc and actions speak louder than words he was on a hall kerfuffle at it again and a man that i just i just found that remain you can talk about that a little bit more i mean you were involved in that but it's found it really interesting that you know in an attempt to support it kind of backfired and i feel like everything needs to work together so we can move forward so i'm curious if you could cut outlet baton in us physically in a more philosophically if you are i have no regrets about that resolution that

resolution passed unanimously by the dnc where we had wanted to show our support for the movement and there's always going to be and that tension between the movements and institutions even if you're back to the civil rights movement there was also that tension that existed like they have to do with the fact that a lot of people in the black lives matter movement felt that the political party system was failing now and that a lot of their elected officials were failing now i'm in they didn't want a resolution are they felt that it was and now that the agency has a body that is how we support our work and i continue to work with those people on the buckeyes matter movement who were interested in working with aegean sea and figuring out how we can work together and for me those are the things that have been i didn't take it too harshly archie

personally by day and that day it is our conversations and that is why we need to have men and i know other black women who i work with in this space in the political space they have conversations after the resolution passed there's still conversation about how man and it's two different worlds that you're really trying to get to know each other and even when we're around a table coming together baton chan it's just part of how our yeah well i mean what is at the heart of that tension i mean i think we think about a budweiser ad thirteen how you police killings of young people and there were elected officials who were not holding up people accountable particularly police officers you know in that case we're talking about people who are in the law enforcement system so there's not going to be the search last you also have a lot of people whenever engage

in the political system at all with their political party so there wasn't going to be that level of trust and all these are all things that you have to bill i tell people all the time with the work they do being a political director mike meaning each man's you have to show up you just can't expect people to show up for your hand for the black lives matter no mans a hand seen people on the democratic party showing up and that is actually faye air and in a lot of instances it is actually collect so that's where a lot of mistrust came from in those urges things relationship that you have to build over time yeah i mean i am part i wonder in and not just specific to the black lives matter movement all movements an activist groups like is it their job to just cut it never be satisfied you know like bedbug the gall de gaulle you know is never quite achieve there's always more that could be done and politicians by contrast are constrained by a number of things that moviemakers and activists are not

necessarily constrained by that bureaucracy being one of them meet elf who's gonna give the money being another you know ten and it is in any way the dynamic seems really interesting is particularly because these leaders of these activists movements in art are voters and how you how you as a as someone who is a physician and elected office navigate those waters i am this is as fascinating so for me away in this comes out and keep or a white oh so so as is never going to be satisfied and you know when they say these things to me about how the only candidate has led to a hundred percent agree with you on any issue is you know so you know if you are getting your ideas in your day in bahrain there does need to be that level of

accountability that we do need to hold our elected officials accountable because so many people are just getting re elected or re elected it has no one ever runs again no one ever shows up to the city council meeting and the country evolves in people involved in issues of all so i think that's why there's always going to be a conversations wanting more and doing more i think that's healthy for democracy yeah while i was reading an article about a year see alexander could hurt because your quote has and how she had to kind of tamping down her fire in order to get things done notices one article in one newspaper that ever and not a recovery are times that should see a man came in hiring la as are you away but he's had to kind of take a more temperate approach and recognizing that you know there are other factors that she asked navigate so anyway but you know we're all like excited about which is what she's been doing that we want our politicians to get things done so do you have any thoughts

on that dynamic this is something that comes up all the time in and we hear women talk about a word they say ok i'm literally at moving from being an activist to be in elected official and oh my gosh this is so different and he really is when you are in another person's she used and you have activists banging on your door not wanting all of the change and i think it's a new role in its borrowed and i still think that you can accomplish things yes i tell people all the time the best elected officials that i see are those who start off as activists those who really had an issue something important in our community that they wanted to change and then they ran for office and sour and i'd be aware and this is down but they also learn how to make the system work for the things that they wanted to deal and it holy see that happening with the congress a man like you were saying oh she's you know him or herself down she's calm down wait no she's figured out where the batteries are she's figured out how

things work in khamenei now she's making all that were you know when you are yap yap and that is how you get things on a red is undoubtedly it get here who were the players that i felt a lot of flying if the congress and in the other congressmen men were just so horrible and terrible unravels as several isis say that they are banned speaker pelosi wouldn't have put them on the committees that they are aren't as iran's and serious pretty impressive committees because she knew up and the day those are bad as when an hour to get things done and that's where she got them there yeah i actually i heard any well while we're on the topic of the policy who there are so many things related zarate now but am i heard her give a talk where she talked about what she looks for in a candidate which says i am and you know and to paraphrase that you know that they've got this in time and they have a plan to get it then

they have the ability to connect at what the people who can he help them get it done and you know just kind of identifying with those three things are in there may be a metaphoric amanda does seem as i go yeah that seems pretty fundamental like what you want a dale harry any advantage really at lpl absolutely one the first things that i ask when our time is why are you running you have to have your why is especially as women we know why we are lagging un another season another man's right now that they normally don't like when i say they went man that we definitely wanna know ok why we're running this is what we want to get down this is howard in a duet and furman the wakeup immobile wow county commission sounds i'm just going to go have indeed so as what we've heard all of this pressure on ourselves by it is that thinking that makes is a really great candidates and we put our amazing once in our house was really do reflect the community because were going around learning we're

not expecting that we know everything about every single issue we go to the experts and speaker pelosi is actually correct those are the great things to look for in a candidate particularly the scene where deanna do and how you may get it done yeah and how you know the hall you know it is it is always it has the poem and it this when women do it that way but they're doing there are patterns i met and you did you play the disney which is that the way that women tend to approach things might be the a better way you know does leno weeping weeping an eye without necessarily having the expertise they you know you might need to see make for a better yet they're so the first of the gate and their first to raise their hands so they're getting the positions on but i i i feel like this approach of thinking about what you can bring and why you want to do it and taking out a minute dnc it seems like it seems like if i would evaluate which dissent we like that in our

dna yap yap isn't really isn't the american awarded definitely and energy and i one thing everyone says be prepared so literally had to get a bigger i'd say saturday across the border a setback to my question my sort of like two by four question about women of color i mean can you talk about when you got a brown girls that politics at your podcast and you're in your website when you say brown girls wear it and who dimeo when i say brown girls i mean women of color and women of color is not synonymous worldwide when in a lot of people when they hear was no color me on a map we think back when men by when i'm talking about black man i say black women sondheim i want a car talking about where a manhunt for you know it's seen as an indigenous one man a show a man when nez you identify with me laugh and craig rowles guy at the way

that it is focusing on our winner how are is he says a spike the fact that human being one of power we do have our differences i know in politics we still face the same time says sexism discrimination and races aren't i a given alone with so many women in the desert sharing stories and a lot of them are the same time being the only brown run around to do a more work ahead ej last to gain the most credentialed bad having the lore warn the company these are all things that women of color deal with not only in politics they just in daily life every bit the g g i wanted it to be an outlet for us to openly talk about these things because i wanted us to get and bias now only two when nana who were also in politics were dealing with bears but a un force enough to have a circle that myself and other women have but also for the

young women who were coming up in politics like i was one day end was unable to see myself i want them to be able to see all of us and know that there are women who are working in this case what are working to make it better four down and bad is something that i know my friends and i really concentrate on is after we leave an organization and our war in each we always ask ourselves how many there oro de young women of color who were coming after me and we always want for that answer to be yes so for me overall they be gigi is a love letter to all these women just you know that even though you may not be feeling that you're seen and heard that there are other women that you see huge carry on it all so worth what barriers are you seeing in use that at all but to barriers that women of color run into in politics and in the workplace and in life what specifically my a women of color face when running for

office the first thing is we touch our world and when a colour we are just so strong advocates were out here in our community in public we're set an easy translated into winning candidates and encouraging them to run for office there's just so many stories out there i'll give an example where a one man she wears a principle she was considering running for school board and people told hers she wasn't qualified over a white man who had no educational experience who wanted to run for school board business and then things that women of color face we need to make sure that were also not thinking that people cholera can only represent people of color this is such an integrated idea that we're only limited to representing people that look like us and we have to get out of that mindset it as so many of the women of color who were elected to congress they did not represent

districts where their people what exactly like so we are capable of doing a lot more for entire communities leads only have to represent our specific communities and we also have to look at things such as gatekeepers enough in the day gatekeepers those are those people who want it other people in power because it protects their power that absolutely prohibit so many women of color and entering politics and that leads to financial constraints are raising money it's already harder for women to raise money is harder for women of color because they are just not seen as political viable which is a word i really this flight because when you're saying viable what you're really saying is straight white man and so that prohibits women from being able to raise a lot of resources initially and then back to work me think about when we talk about liability we just got a good all over way we

think of traditional candidate walks right even at the end the day for women of color are we wake up every day you were playing in a system that would not built for us that never an action our participation politics was made for white when owning net which we are definitely not so even though we're almost in twenty twenty we still have to realize that our elected officials need to look like the people in this country yes so the other thing that you told me when we were preparing for this conversation was that he'd that women of color can also run up against the other people of color as saying we're gonna cover cause there's a weirdo black guy that position so absolutely i hear from so many women of color who say yeah i was told not to run because there's already a man of color so this is where they say with women of our rehab to face the sexes and a recent

now that status and when people are doing bad no matter who they are same that we already have a person of color in the race be a man be a woman we don't need anyone else what you're saying is it really being people color are a monolith they were all the same and that is actually not throw in that is people's implicit bias showing that they think our bears and why and we're going at it scarred don't need any more just like we will to see multiple women running for positions we also a seam of four women of color running for that same position and these are the things that only make us better and frankly that's woody show why we never say anything when there's multiple wine how are we one represented air and now

somehow it works at all so bad does create additional barriers not only for women of color but just people color in general badge when they are recruited to run or if they do decide to run on their own they do get organized in the system yeah i mean can you imagine can imagine what things would look like if if that was the way people heard well you need to read as arty white person running for the play good sleigh gets that they intend to lay said earlier age we don't say anything that way in white people wanna represent a district that is majority people call our own a person of color was to represent a district that is majority white people bears what would you tell individuals like me that we can devote to break down those barriers when we see them happening you know i'll call it out an undecided be very honest right now is when it comes to the races on the sexes are

much a lot of the hour i'll be seen there's we as those people experiencing at we cannot be the ones hustling calling in are we need white people to be the ones calling out and saying hey this is not why i see what is happening to you see what is happening because for ios the minute we normally say something we get attacked and we're just think she says that air and people get upset how can you call that but when it's funny and i see this happen all the time people stop sit back within a set our ioc did think about that oh thank you for enlightening me that's when these are happening you all need to be the winds to speak out it has is not on us as the empress picasso me speak out and fix these problems yeah and also like let's lay

or money down you know fundraising is another thing that you mention as being a challenge it is it is and donate in that goes to a dishonest about donations she always think that has the thousands of dollars how our political system is me right now are people think that you have to have millions of dollars to run for office there are so many offices were people lainey ten thousand dollars fifty thousand dollars eight hundred thousand dollars that money is easily braves so an investment in those women five dollars ten dollars fifteen dollars those low dollar donors they actually add up and that small amount of money and how iron canisters aching give people way it's akin to social media ads it can even add up to being able to ride stipends for in terms which is something i'm really passionate about because i think that's an important way to get more young people of color involved in politics don't think that any

amount is too small and even if you're not able to do as much as you are financially talk about the candidates are your social media accounts when you're an advanced when you meet people who happen to be in their district get their name out there is a little small things actually end up having trouble in the long running on one hundred and one and this is an inflection point and i learned to be right back with a song to go lower as beakman beakman the

peak to peak this is an inflection point i'm lauren shuler you're listening to my conversation with sean tickle our national political director for a merged and founder of the brown girls that the politics blog and podcast so okay so now we're you know where about a year our team from and the next presidential election we've got this big field we were recording in october of twenty nineteen and new democratic candidates for the president will present a primary season so why what are what the black community leaders

look for in a candidate what should we be looking for as the priorities and as we come up on this on this race and making big decisions yes so i like to say we are ready and twenty twenty it may sound just the number eighteen hours i got from the presidential candidates today i just think oh my god what is a gonna look like in january this is going to be insane but we know that when it comes to you when a collar voters in particular aback when men they articulate a crop in white house at the party we are the base of the base of the democratic party and the black women's roundtable in essence magazine they actually just did a survey of what the top life or death issues for black women are in as we talked about earlier criminal justice and policing reforms remains the number one in and a lady's there were crane is not over so we're just coming off of another singing all men

who is eyeing the audience with her nephew on her own and she is now that the second issue is the affordable care act you know keeping healthcare basically a horrible and if anyone is watching the debates we know that the candidates actually teaches say about that then next you have the rise in hate crimes and racism and then you had equal rights and equal pay and then gun violence and gun safety so those are the tough issues that what one man in particular are looking for out of these presidential candidates how they are going to address bound by way can see the issues over all that might say it just say this is really do care about the same issues as everyone else we just have a different perspective of how we're looking at and we want the candidates few have enough sense to realize they can write is great i am on a college affordability but it also been recognized

that what one man whole the most in loan debt in this country when we won a tough that the ioc's women and girls are they going to address how indigenous one man the race i waited they are buying and how about love the violence against women act really protective gown than other women in a still hasn't been operates when we talk about entrepreneurship and opportunity it in a talk about how to make our little more sensible or when the color to open small businesses so we care about the issue that all americans care about we just need four to be address with that wins an intersection now it and i think theyre its batteries and why you see certain candidates who started barry much at the bottom with polling rising to the top because they have realized that they have to have that in their policy corners and that's why they're getting so much attention

did and did you get in here reproductive justice on that list it is it is and so therefore less the other things i mentioned some of them to quality public education writer reproductive choices quality affordable childcare environmental justice and climate change yes yes so there's an easy there on the list is there to search more towards their the bottom of the letter read the surrendering gave yes i gave their top line yet but rarely everything i just thought about was yeah so where okay i mean are you hearing more about the items at the top of the list from one candidate over another i think we are and i do think senator warren is speaking to these issues very well and i know this back in march was that women of color especially black women were signing talk about her a lot more and is the fact that she just kept releasing all of these plant all these plans and in

april we had the shia people presidential forum which is founded by ed how a stand and i'm fortunate enough to be on the steering committee we held at hand she's in texas and she won the farm no way she spoke to that rome she had she definitely resonate head and connect it with those women in a way that none of the other candidates were able to do it was quite impressive to see and i am am and then the last thing the last thing and the bad on the topic of elizabeth warren is that i read a piece about her that she was in in that i wasn't looking like she was getting the support of black community leaders and i would say what is your response to the attacks it is really interesting though because if you look really at the support that she is gaining whacking the leaders especially these black women it's really impressive

people and she just rolled out the endorsement from roxanne gay which is amazing it is that grape soda and seventy when men were aqua man walked up to her and then also who isn't meeting with heart and i think that is something a lot of people don't pay attention to you just a factual you know walk into the room with some of these candidates and she has been really great at doing these black women around tables and when i walk it's really the women in the community who are leaning who doubt we have the years a lot of people who want to show up and they're not there to endorse her by jesse hear what she has to say and question her on her clients is a really fabulous and i know sen booker he's been doing a lot of those events as well so the endorsements are important but we still have to say who's you know wanting to show up to talk to some of these candidates because not everyone is

okay one quick thing before we continue we recorded this in october of twenty nineteen when kamala harris the one woman of color in a presidential primary was still in the race senator harrison has since suspended her campaign but i still thought it was important to share what a shanty and i talked about and also writer on this point our conversation that we had a little problem with our connection so i had built a spare with us on that dr lee sang ain't seen me crazy <unk> i always make this an issue this is probably hal lublin to the ulysses r u s ryan is utah so fabulous on all of these issues and there's always you know your years in seniors are on women of color e and that really started as it distracts her campaign and to be able to watch all these

really policies i remember once you roll out her policy for teachers in a nice male egos he reminded me of my garden a teacher and i was i guess she was a great one and i wanted her to make more money she should make more money in here senator here is how every sec teachers so glad is the best advice that you've ever been given about how to get more women of color and so you use your ears well are you willing to say all is fine we're just celebrating any other people like dick or sec army you are your

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it's really really ready there was a shrine to go our national political director for a marriage and a founder of the brown girls that the politics blog and you can find a link to her podcast at her blog at my website also shared her toolkit for getting more women of color in office which you can find on my website and radio dot org if you missed any part of this conversation are would like to hear from other women taking charge or leading change checkout the inflection point podcast wherever you get your eyes aren't sure where this is an inflection point and this is how women rise old wells today's episode was made possible by the generous support of the

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