PBS NewsHour; November 24, 2021, 3:00pm-4:00pm PST

- Captioning sponsored by - NEWSHOUR PRODUCTIONS, LLC - >> Nawaz: GOOD EVENING, I'M AMNA - NAWAZ. - JUDY WOODRUFF IS AWAY. - ON THE NEWSHOUR TONIGHT... - >> WE THE JURY, FIND THE - DEFENDANT TRAVIS McMICHAEL - GUILTY. - >> Nawaz: ...ALL THREE MEN - INVOLVED IN THE MURDER OF AHMAUD - ARBERY HAVE BEEN CONVICTED IN A - CASE THAT WAS SEEN AS A MEASURE - OF RACIAL JUSTICE IN THE UNITED - STATES. - THEN, DESPERATE JOURNEY-- - KURDISH MIGRANTS RETURN HOME - AFTER BEING USED AS PAWNS IN A - GEOPOLITICAL STRUGGLE BETWEEN - BELARUS AND THE EUROPEAN UNION. - >> ( translated ): WE REACHED - LITHUANIA. - THEY BEAT US AND SENT US TO - BELARUS. - THEN BELARUS SENT US BACK TO - LITHUANIA. - IT'S LIKE THEY WERE PLAYING - FOOTBALL WITH US. - >> Nawaz: AND, DEFENDING EARTH. - NASA LAUNCHES A MISSION TO - DEFLECT AN ASTEROID IN A MAJOR - TEST OF GAME-CHANGING TECHNOLOGY - THAT COULD PROTECT OUR PLANET - FROM FUTURE CELESTIAL THREATS. - ALL THAT AND MORE ON TONIGHT'S - PBS NEWSHOUR. - >> MAJOR FUNDING FOR THE PBS

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- GREG McMICHAEL, HIS SON TRAVIS - McMICHAEL AND NEIGHBOR WILLIAM - "RODDIE" BRYAN WERE CONVICTED ON - CHARGES OF FELONY MURDER FOR - CHASING AND KILLING ARBERY IN - GEORGIA LAST YEAR. - BRYAN AND GREG McMICHAEL WERE - ACQUITTED OF MALICE MURDER, - WHICH IS CONNECTED WITH INTENT - TO KILL. - THE VERDICT WAS CLOSELY WATCHED - AROUND THE COUNTRY. - >> THE STATE OF GEORGIA VERSUS - TRAVIS McMICHAEL, CASE NUMBER - CR000433. - JURY VERDICT FORM. - COUNT ONE, MALICE MURDER. - WE THE JURY FIND THE DEFENDANT - TRAVIS McMICHAEL GUILTY. - GUILT - >> Nawaz: THE THREE COULD FACE - LIFE SENTENCES IN PRISON. - BEFORE VIDEO OF THE SHOOTING WAS - LEAKED, IT WAS MORE THAN TWO - MONTHS BEFORE ANYONE WAS - ARRESTED. - AHMAUD ARBERY, WHO WAS NEVER - ARMED, WAS SHOT IN FEBRUARY 2020 - WHILE HE WAS JOGGING IN - BRUNSWICK, GEORGIA. - THE McMICHAELS' PURSUED HIM IN A - PICK-UP TRUCK AND BRYAN JOINED - THEM MOMENTS LATER. - THEY CLAIMED ARBERY RESEMBLED A - SUSPECT IN A SERIES OF BREAK-

- INS. - AFTER A STRUGGLE, THREE SHOTS - WERE FIRED, TWO OF WHICH STRUCK - ARBERY IN THE CHEST. - MOMENTS AFTER THE VERDICT WAS - READ TODAY, A CROWD ERUPTED IN - CHEERS OUTSIDE THE GLYNN COUNTY - COURTHOUSE. - AND ARBERY'S MOTHER, WANDA - COOPER-JONES, SPOKE OF HER SON. - >> I JUST WANT TO TELL EVERYBODY - THANK YOU. - THANK YOU FOR THOSE WHO MARCHED, - THOSE WHO PRAYED. - MOST OF ALL THE ONES WHO PRAYED. - >> YES, LORD. - YOU GUYS. - LORD. - THANK YOU. - NOW, QUEZ, WHICH YOU KNOW HIM AS - AHMAD, HE WILL NOW REST IN - PEACE. - >> AMEN! - >> Nawaz: ARBERY'S MURDER AND - THIS TRIAL PROVED TO BE ANOTHER - KEY MOME IN THE ONGOING - CONVERSATION AROUND RACIAL - JUSTICE AND THE LEGAL SYSTEM. - PAUL BUTLER IS PROFESSOR AT - GEORGETOWN LAW AND A FORMER - FEDERAL PROSECUTOR. - HE JOINS ME NOW. - PAUL BUTLER, WELCOME BACK TO - THE "NewsHour". - THANKS FOR BEING WITH US. - SO THIS IS OBVIOUSLY AN - INCREDIBLY HIGH PROFILE CASE. - EVEN PRESIDENT BIDEN ISSUED A

- STATEMENT IN RESPONSE TO THE - VERDICT. - PAUL BUTLER, GENERALLY SPEAKING, - WHAT WENT THROUGH YOUR MIND WHEN - YOU HEARD THE VERDICT TODAY? - >> AMNA, IN HER CLOSING - STATEMENT TO THE JURY, THE - PROSECUTOR HAD THIS REFRAIN, IT - WAS THE 911 CALL THAT ONE TO - HAVE THE DEFENDANTSMADE WHEN -- - THAT ONE OF THE DEFENDANTS MADE - WHEN HE SAID HIS EMERGENCY W - WASBLOCK" MAN RUNNING." - IN THOSE WORDS, THERE'S AN - AMERICAN HISTORY OF RACIAL - VIOLENCE AND WHITE SUPREMACY AND - UNEQUAL JUSTICE UNDER THE LAW, - AND YOU MIGHT SAY THAT, TODAY, - THESE JURORS DISRUPTED THAT - HISTORY. - CRIMINAL TRIALS ARE NOT DESIGNED - TO BE INSTRUMENTS OF SOCIAL - CHANGE, THEY'RE ABOUT BRINGING - INDIVIDUAL WRONG DOERS TO - JUSTICE. - BUT SOMETIMES VERDICTS REVEAL - SOMETHING ABOUT SOCIAL PROGRESS. - TODAY, WE LEARNED THAT, IN GLYNN - COUNTY, GEORGIA, IN A TRIAL IN - WHICH THREE WHITE MEN HUNTED - DOWN AND KILLED A BLACK MAN,

- THOSE MEN WERE CONVICTED BY A - VIRTUALLY ALL-WHITE JURY. - IN THIS COUNTRY, THAT COUNTS AS - PROGRESS. - >> Nawaz: PAUL BUTLER, WE - DON'T ALWAYS HEAR FROM - DEFENDANTS IN CASES BUT TRAVIS - McMICHAEL TOOK THE STAND IN - HIS DEFENSE. - IN HINDSIGHT, WHAT DO YOU MAKE - TO HAVE THAT DECISION? - YOU KNOW, DEFENDANTS IN MURDER - CASES TYPICALLY DON'T TAKE THE - STAND, BUT WHEN SELF-DEFENSE IS - AN ISSUE, JURORS LIKE TO HEAR - FROM THE ACCUSED PERSON. - THEY WANT TO KNOW HIS STORY. - TRAVIS McMICHAEL DIDN'T HAVE A - STORY TO REBUT THE COMPELLING - EVIDENCE THAT HE DIDN'T ACT IN - SELF-DEFENSE, THAT HE STARTED - THE FIGHT WHEN HE CHASED - MR. ARBERY AND THEN SHOT HIM, - BUT THERE WAS NO LEGAL - JUSTIFICATION. - SO WHETHER HE TOOK THE STAND OR - NOT, I DON'T THINK, MADE A BIG - DIFFERENCE BASED ON THE

- PROSECUTION'S EVIDENCE. - >> Nawaz: SELF-DEFENSE WAS - CENTRAL IN THIS CASE AND IN THE - TRIAL OF KYLE RITTENHOUSE IN - WISCONSIN. - KYLE RITTENHOUSE WAS ACQUITTED - ON ALL CHARGES. - BOTH McMICHAELS AND MR. BRYAN - WERE NOT. - AND I HAVE TO MENTION AFTER THE - RITTENHOUSE VERDICT, YOU SAID HE - IS NOW THE POSTER CHILD FOR - REAREACTIONARY WHITE MEN WHO SEK - TO TALK THE LAW IN THEIR OWN - HANDS. - >> EACH OF THE THREE MEN HE SHOT - POSED A DEADLY THREAT TO HIM, HE - SAID. - ONE GRABBED HIS GUN, ANOTHER - ATTACKED HIM WITH A SKATE BOARD - AND A THIRD AIMED A GUN AT HIM. - IN THE GEORGIA CASE, MR. ARBERY - WAS UNARMED, SO IT WAS HARDER - FOR THOSE DEFENDANTS TO SAY THEY - THOUGHT HE WAS GOING TO KILL - HIM. - ANOTHER DIFFERENCE IS

- MR. RITTENHOUSE HAD A $2 MILLION - LEGAL DEFENSE FUND THAT ALLOWED - HIS LAWYERS TO STAGE TWO - PRACTICE TRIALS, ONE WHERE - MR. RITTENHOUSE TOOK THE STAND, - AND ANOTHER WHERE HE DIDN'T TAKE - THE STAND. - SO, AS FAR AS WE KNOW, THE - DEFENDANTS IN GEORGIA DIDN'T - HAVE THOSE RESOURCES. - >> Nawaz: PAUL, IF THERE WAS - NO VIDEO IN THIS CASE, DO YOU - THINK WE WOULD HAVE THE VERDICT - THAT WE SAW TODAY? - >> IF THERE WAS NO VIDEO IN THIS - CASE, I DON'T THINK WE WOULD - HAVE HAD A PROSECUTION. - REMEMBER, NO CHARGES WERE - BROUGHT FOR MONTHS AFTER THESE - DEFENDANTS KILLED MR. ARBERY. - ON THE DAY THEY KILLED HIM, THEY - WERE ALLOWED TO GO HOME. - IT WASN'T UNTIL THE VIDEO OF - MR. ARBERY'S TRAGIC DEATH WENT - VIRAL THAT THE POLICE AND - PROSECUTORS ACTED INTERESTED IN - THIS CASE AT ALL. - >> Nawaz: ALL THREE MEN WILL - NOW GO TO FEDERAL COURT IN A - MATTER OF WEEKS TO FACE FEDERAL - HATE CRIME CHARGES AS WELL. - BASED ON WHAT YOU'VE SEEN IN THE - PAST, PAUL, WHAT DO YOU EXPECT - TO HAPPEN THERE?

- >> IN THE FEDERAL CASE, THE - DEFENDANTS ARE CHARGED WITH HATE - CRIMES, WHICH MEANS, IF THEY ARE - CONVICTED, THEIR SENTENCE WILL - BE ENHANCED BASED ON RACIAL - ANIMUS THAT THE JURY FINDS. - IN THE STATE CASE, THE - PROSECUTION RARELY BROUGHT UP - RACE. - IT HAD EVIDENCE OF RACISM BY THE - DEFENDANT, BUT IT DIDN'T USE - THAT EVIDENCE. - THE MOST DISTURBING WAS THAT ONE - DEFENDANT SAID THAT TRAVIS - McMICHAEL CALLED MR. ARBERY - THE N WORD AFTER HE SHOT HIM. - WE CAN BE CERTAIN THAT THE - PROSECUTION WILL TRY AND GET - THAT EVIDENCE IN, IN THE FEDERAL - CASE. - I THINK, IN THE STATE CASE, THE - PROSECUTORS WERE CONCERNED - THAT -- I THINK IN THE STATE - CASE, THE PROSECUTORS WERE - CONCERNED ABOUT LOOKING LIKE - THEY WERE INJECTED RACE IN THE - CASE, ESPECIALLY BEFORE THIS - VIRTUALLY ALL-WHITE JURY. - THEY GAMBLED IN THE STATE CASE - THAT THEY COULD WIN THEIR CASE - WITHOUT THIS EVIDENCE, AND THEY - WERE RIGHT.

- I'LL BE INTERESTED TO SEE IF THE - DEFENSE CHANGES ITS TACTICS WITH - REGARD TO RACE IN THE FEDERAL - CASE. - IN THE STATE CASE, THEY - CONSISTENTLY EVOKE RACE, - INCLUDING THE PROBLEMATIC WAYS - ONE LAWYER COMPLAINED THERE - WEREN'T ENOUGH WHITE MEN OVER 40 - IN THE JURY POOL. - THAT SAME LAWYER TRIED TO GET - BLACK MINISTERS EXCLUDED FROM - THE COURTROOM. - ANOTHER DEFENSE ATTORNEY TALKED - ABOUT MR. ARBERY'S LONG, DIRTY - TOENAILS. - BUT THIS VIRTUALLY ALL-WHITE - JURY DID NOT LET THEM GET AWAY - WITH THOSE RACIST TROPES, AND - THAT'S A SIGN OF PROGRESS. - >> Nawaz: PAUL BUTLER, FORMER - FEDERAL PROSECUTOR, NOW - PROFESSOR AT GEORGETOWN LAW. - PAUL, GOOD TO SEE YOU. - THANKS FOR YOUR TIME. - >> ALWAYS A PLEASURE, AMNA. - >> Nawaz: THE U.S. ECONOMY HAS - CHURNED OUT STRIKING NEW

- NUMBERS, WITH UNEMPLOYMENT - CLAIMS AT THEIR LOWEST SINCE - 1969 AND INFLATION AT ITS - HIGHEST SINCE 1990. - THE LABOR DEPARTMENT REPORTED - TODAY THAT FIRST-TIME - APPLICATIONS FOR JOBLESS - BENEFITS FELL TO 199,000 LAST - WEEK. - AND, THE COMMERCE DEPARTMENT - FOUND CONSUMER PRICES ROSE FIVE - PERCENT IN OCTOBER, FROM A YEAR - EARLIER. - THE HIGHER PRICES CONTRIBUTED TO - A RISE IN CONSUMER SPENDING, UP - 1.3% LAST MONTH. - THE EUROPEAN UNION WARNED TODAY - THAT A RECORD NEW RISE IN COVID - CASES IS THREATENING THE BLOC'S - ECONOMIC RECOVERY. - A NUMBER OF EUROPEAN GOVERNMENTS - HAVE REIMPOSED RESTRICTIONS. - AND, THE WORLD HEALTH - ORGANIZATION SAYS VACCINES HAVE - GIVEN PEOPLE A FALSE SENSE OF - SECURITY. - >> EVEN IN THE MIDST OF A VERY, - VERY STRONG RESURGENCE IN CASES - AND EVEN IN THE MIDST OF SOME OF - THOSE COUNTRIES UNDER HUGE - PRESSURE IN THEIR HEALTH - SYSTEMS, WE ARE SEEING PRE- - PANDEMIC LEVELS OF SOCIAL - MIXING, GATHERINGS AND MANY - OTHER THINGS. - AND THE REALITY IS THE VIRUS - WILL CONTINUE TO TRANSMIT - INTENSELY IN THAT ENVIRONMENT. - >> Nawaz: AUSTRIA WENT INTO - LOCKDOWN MODE THIS WEEK, AND

- SLOVAKIA APPROVED ITS OWN - LOCKDOWN TODAY. - FRANCE WILL ANNOUNCE NEW - RESTRICTIONS TOMORROW. - AT LEAST 31 MIGRANTS DIED TODAY, - TRYING TO SAIL FROM FRANCE TO - BRITAIN. - THEIR BOAT SANK IN THE ENGLISH - CHANNEL, OFF CALAIS. - FOUR SUSPECTED TRAFFICKERS WERE - ARRESTED LATER. - THIS WAS THE DEADLIEST SUCH - INCIDENT YET. - ATTEMPTED CHANNEL CROSSINGS BY - PEOPLE FLEEING AFGHANISTAN, IRAQ - AND ELSEWHERE HAVE GROWN SHARPLY - THIS YEAR. - IN GERMANY, THREE MAJOR PARTIES - HAVE AGREED TO FORM A COALITION - GOVERNMENT, TWO MONTHS AFTER - NATIONAL ELECTIONS. - OLAF SCHOLTZ, LEADER OF THE - CENTER-LEFT SOCIAL DEMOCRATS, - WILL BECOME CHANCELLOR. - THAT WILL END ANGELA MERKEL'S 16 - YEARS AS CHANCELLOR, LEADING THE - MAJOR CENTER-RIGHT PARTY. - THE COALITION ALSO INCLUDES THE - PRO-BUSINESS FREE DEMOCRATS AND - THE ENVIRONMENTALIST GREENS. - SWEDEN'S FIRST FEMALE PRIME - MINISTER, MAGDALENA ANDERSSON, - RESIGNED TODAY JUST HOURS AFTER - SHE WAS APPOINTED TO THE POST - SHE WON PARLIAMENTARY APPROVAL - TODAY AS PRIME MINISTER, THEN - LOST A BUDGET VOTE.

- WITH THAT, HER COALITION - PARTNER, THE GREENS, QUIT THE - MINORITY GOVERNMENT, AND - ANDERSSON STEPPED DOWN. - >> ( translated ): ALTHOUGH THE - PARLIAMENTARY BASE APPEARS TO BE - UNCHANGED WHEN IT COMES TO THE - GOVERNMENT, IT OUGHT TO BE - TESTED BY PARLIAMENT ANEW. - FOR ME IT'S A QUESTION OF - RESPECT BUT I ALSO DON'T WANT TO - LEAD A GOVERNMENT WHERE THERE - COULD BE REASONS TO QUESTION ITS - LEGITIMACY. - >> Nawaz: ANDERSSON SAID SHE IS - STILL INTERESTED IN LEADING A - ONE-PARTY GOVERNMENT RUN BY HER - CENTER-LEFT SOCIAL DEMOCRATS. - BACK IN THIS COUNTRY, MILLIONS - OF AMERICANS WERE ON THE MOVE - TODAY, AS THANKSGIVING TRAVEL - NEARED PRE-PANDEMIC LEVELS. - THAT'S DESPITE HIGHER GAS PRICES - AND A NEW SURGE IN COVID-19 - INFECTIONS. - LINES OF PEOPLE WERE SEEN AT - AIRPORTS IN HOUSTON, MIAMI, NEW - YORK AND ELSEWHERE, AND HIGHWAYS - WERE FULL. - THE TRAVEL GROUP A.A.A. - ESTIMATED WELL OVER 50 MILLION - PEOPLE HEADED OUT FOR THE - HOLIDAY. - PRESIDENT BIDEN HAS TAPPED - SHALANDA YOUNG TO LEAD THE WHITE - HOUSE OFFICE OF MANAGEMENT AND - BUDGET. - SHE HAS BEEN SERVING AS ACTING - DIRECTOR.

- IF CONFIRMED BY THE SENATE, - YOUNG WOULD BE THE FIRST BLACK - WOMAN TO LEAD THE BUDGET OFFICE - ON A PERMANENT BASIS. - AND, ON WALL STREET, THE DOW - JONES INDUSTRIAL AVERAGE LOST - NINE POINTS TO CLOSE AT 35,804. - THE NASDAQ ROSE 70 POINTS. - THE S&P 500 ADDED 10. - STILL TO COME ON THE NEWSHOUR: - PARTISAN WRANGLING OVER DISTRICT - MAPS COULD DECIDE CONTROL OF - CONGRESS. - AUTHOR JOHN FEINSTEIN DISCUSSES - HIS NEW BOOK ON RACIAL STRUGGLES - IN SPORTS. - THE HISTORY BEHIND THE WHITE - HOUSE TRADITION OF PARDONING - THANKSGIVING TURKEYS. - PLUS MUCH MORE. - >> Nawaz: THOUSANDS OF MIGRANTS - REMAIN TRAPPED AT THE BORDER - BETWEEN BELARUS AND POLAND; NOW - WITH THE SNOW FALLING, AND MANY

- LIVING WITHOUT SHELTER. - THEY'RE PAWNS IN A STANDOFF - BETWEEN THE LEADER OF BELARUS, - ALEXANDER LUKASHENKA, AND THE - EUROPEAN UNION. - AND WHILE MANY MIGRANTS REMAIN, - MANY HAVE DECIDED TO RETURN - HOME. - IN A MOMENT, SPECIAL - CORRESPONDENT SIMONA FOLTYN WILL - REPORT FROM NORTHERN IRAQ ON - SOME WHO'VE RETURNED THERE. - BUT FIRST, PRODUCER ALI ROGIN - STARTS WITH THE SITUATION IN - BELARUS. - >> Reporter: ON THE BELARUS SIDE - OF THE BORDER WITH POLAND, - MIGRANTS WHO ONCE HID IN THE - WOODS ARE NOW STACKED IN - GOVERNMENT WAREHOUSES. - THEYLAMOR FOR ELECTRICAL - OUTLETS. - THEY USE OUTDOOR HOSES TO BATHE - IN THE FREEZING COLD. - IT BEATS SLEEPING IN THE FOREST, - BUT NOT BY MUCH. - DESPITE THE SHELTER, THE - MIGRANTS ARE STILL LEFT OUT IN - THE COLD; CAUGHT IN A POWER PLAY - BY EUROPE'S LAST DICTATOR, - ALEXANDER LUKASHENKO. - >> LUKASHENKO HAS ORCHESTRATED - THE MIGRANT CRISIS ON THE - BORDER, AND IT'S RETRIBUTION FOR - E.U. SANCTIONS. - >> Reporter: MELINDA HARING IS - THE DEPUTY DIRECTOR OF THE - EURASIA CENTER AT THE ATLANTIC - COUNCIL, A NONPARTISAN THINK - TANK. - SHE SAID THAT AS LUKASHENKO - BECAME MORE AUTHORITARIAN AND

- MORE ISOLATED IN THE WEST, HE - SOUGHT WAYS TO APPEAR - LEGITIMATE. - >> SO HE IS SAYING, I CONTROL - THE MIGRANTS. - I'M IN CHARGE OF THE SITUATION - HERE, AND YOU'RE GOING TO HAVE - TO NEGOTIATE WITH ME. - >> Reporter: HIS REGIME USED - SOCIAL MEDIA CAMPAIGNS: OFFERING - VISAS, DIRECT FLIGHTS AND HOTEL - RESERVATIONS TO PEOPLE IN IRAQ, - SYRIA AND AFGHANISTAN. - THEY LURED MIGRANTS TO BELARUS - WITH THE PROMISE OF GETTING TO - E EUROPEAN UNION. - BUT WHEN THEY ARRIVED, - AUTHORITIES ABANDONED THEM AT - EUROPEAN BORDERS. - IN RESPONSE, THE EUROPEAN UNION - THREATENED NEW SANCTIONS. - IN THE PAST WEEK, CAMPS ON THE - BELARUS SIDE OF THE BORDER HAVE - DISAPPEARED. - >> IT REACHED SUCH A FEVER PITCH - THAT LUKASHENKA HAD TO BACK - DOWN. - >> Reporter: BELARUS SENT SOME - MIGRANTS TO THE WAREHOUSES, AND - MANY OTHERS BACK TOWARDS EUROPE. - THESE SIBLINGS, FROM SYRIA, SAID - BELARUS OFFICIALS DROVE THEM TO - THE POLISH BORDER. - >> ( translated ): THEY FORCED - US EVERY DAY TO CROSS THE POLISH - BORDER. - THEY TOLD US "YOU EITHER DIE IN - BELARUS OR YOU KEEP PUSHING - TOWARDS POLAND." - >> Reporter: AN AID GROUP FOUND - THE SIBLINGS, AND POLISH BORDER

- GUARDS REVIEWED THEIR DOCUMENTS. - BUT MOST MIGRANTS ON THE POLISH - BORDER ARE TREATED HARSHLY, - LEADING TO SCENES LIKE THIS, - PUSHED OUT BY BELARUS STATE TV, - OF CLASHES BETWEEN GUARDS AND - CIVILIANS. - AID WORKERS SAY POLAND SET UP AN - EXCLUSION ZONE FROM WHICH THEY - ARE FORBIDDEN. - STEFAN LEHMEIER IS THE DEPUTY - DIRECTOR OF EUROPE PROGRAMS FOR - THE INTERNATIONAL RESCUE - COMMITTEE, A HUMANITARIAN GROUP. - >> ANYBODY WHO IS IN THERE AND - NEEDS HELP CAN ONLY GET THAT - HELP FROM LOCAL RESIDENTS IF - THOSE LOCAL RESIDENTS RESPOND OR - HAPPEN TO FIND THEM. - WE CANNOT GO IN AND HELP THEM, - AND EVEN AMBULANCES ARE TURNED - AWAY. - >> Reporter: HE SAID POLAND - WON'T PROCESS ASYLUM CLAIMS. - >> THESE ASYLUM SEEKERS KNOW - THAT THEY WILL HAVE A HARD TIME - HAVING THEIR ASYLUM CLAIM - ASSESSED BY POLAND. - THEY KNOW THAT MOST LIKELY, IF - THEY GET CAUGHT HERE IN THIS - COUNTRY, THEY WILL BE PUSHED - BACK INTO BELARUS, WHICH WOULD - BE DISASTROUS FOR THEM. - >> Reporter: POLAND SAYS IT IS - FIGHTING A RUSSIAN-BACKED SCHEME - TO DESTABILIZE EUROPE. - >> ( translated ): - UNFORTUNATELY, THIS IS ONLY THE

- BEGINNING OF A LONGER CRISIS - THAT LUKASHENKO'S REGIME HAS - CAUSED, PROBABLY DIRECTED BY THE - KREMLIN. - IT IS AN ATTEMPT TO BREACH THE - EASTERN BORDER OF NATO AND THE - EUROPEAN UNION. - >> Reporter: BUT THE SCENES ON - THE BORDER PLAY STRAIGHT INTO - LUKASHENKO'S HANDS. - >> ( translated ): WE NEED TO - SHOW THE POLES THAT WE ARE NOT - BARBARIANS. - WE DON'T WANT ANY ESCALATION, - BUT WE WILL PROTECT THOSE - HAPLESS FOLKS AS MUCH AS WE CAN. - >> THIS IS A GREAT OPPORTUNITY - FOR LUKASHENKA. - LUKASHENKA CAN GET IN THEIR FACE - AND SAY, YOU GUYS ARE - HYPOCRITES. - YOU SAY YOU BELIEVE IN - INTERNATIONAL LAW. - WELL, HOW ON EARTH ARE YOU - PUSHING PEOPLE BACK TO BELARUS? - >> Reporter: SICK OF BEING PAWNS - IN A LONG GAME, COLD, TIRED, AND - ABED, MANY MIGRANTS ARE NOW - HEADING HOME. - >> Reporter: I'M SIMONA FOLTYN, - IN NORTHERN IRAQ. - THIS IS THE FINAL STOP OF A TWO- - MONTH-LONG ODYSSEY TO REACH - EUROPE: A HALF-FINISHED HOUSE IN - A DUSTY, DESOLATE SUBURB OF - ERBIL, THE CAPITAL OF IRAQI - KURDISTAN. - THIS KURDISH FAMILY OF EIGHT - SOLD ALL THEIR BELONGINGS AND

- BORROWED $20,000 TO PAY FOR THE - JOURNEY TO BELARUS, IN HOPES OF - REACHING GERMANY. - INSTEAD, THEY BECAME PAWNS IN - THE GEOPOLITICAL TUG-OF-WAR - BETWEEN BELARUS AND THE EUROPEAN - UNION. - JEEHAN HARBI TELLS ME THEIR - STORY - >> ( translated ): WE REACHED - LITHUANIA. - THEY BEAT US AND SENT US TO - BELARUS. - THEN BELARUS SENT US BACK TO - LITHUANIA. - IT'S LIKE THEY WERE PLAYING - FOOTBALL WITH US. - >> Reporter: FOR WEEKS, THEY - CAMPED OUT IN THE FOREST, - BRAVING FREEZING TEMPERATURES. - JEEHAN'S HUSBAND DHIYAB, - PICTURED HERE, WAS BADLY BEATEN - BY BORDER POLICE ON BOTH SIDES. - THE SIXTH TIME LITHUANIANS - FORCIBLY RETURNED THEM TO - BELARUS, THE FAMILY DECIDED TO - RETURN HOME-- TRAUMATIZED, - HUMILIATED WITH THE HEAVY BURDEN - OF REPAYING THEIR DEBT. - >> ( translated ): I HAVE - NOTHING LEFT HERE. - I WILL WORK AS A DAILY LABORER - TO RETURN THE MONEY, BUT I DON'T - KNOW IF I'LL MANAGE. - >> Reporter: THE FAMILY IS AMONG - HUNDREDS OF IRAQI KURDS WHO'VE - RETURNED OVER THE PAST WEEK, - MANY ON GOVERNMENT REPATRIATION

- FLIGHTS. - TO CLAIM ASYLUM IN GERMANY, - JEEHAN AND DHIYAB HAD PLANNED TO - CITE THREATS AND THE KIDNAPPING - AND KILLING OF A RELATIVE DURING - IRAQ'S SECTARIAN CONFLICT IN - 2007, WHEN THEY LIVED IN THE - SUNNI ARAB MAJORITY CITY OF - MOSUL. - BUT THEY'VE LIVED IN KURDISTAN - FOR 14 YEARS NOW. - WHAT'S REALLY DRIVING THEM AWAY - IS POVERTY AND WHAT THEY CALL AN - UNJUST GOVERNMENT. - >> ( translated ): THEY DON'T DO - A GOOD JOB FOR THE POOR PEOPLE. - THEY JUST WORK FOR THEMSELVES. - >> Reporter: HE IS REFERRING TO - THE KURDISTAN REGIONAL - GOVERNMENT, OR K.R.G., WHICH - RUNS THIS PART OF IRAQ. - KURDISTAN IS OFTEN DESCRIBED AS - A BEACON OF STABILITY. - THE REGION HAS BETTER - INFRASTRUCTURE AND SERVICES THAN - OTHER PARTS OF IRAQ, AND HAS - OFFERED REFUGE TO PERSECUTED - MINORITIES AND ACTIVISTS FLEEING - VIOLENCE ELSEWHERE IN THE - COUNTRY. - BUT BENEATH THIS VENEER OF - STABILITY, MANY KURDS DON'T SEE - A FUTURE AMID A PROLONGED - ECONOMIC CRISIS AND RISING - AUTHORITARIANISM. - KURDISH OFFICIALS, HOWEVER,

- BLAME THEIR WOES ON LONG LASTING - DISPUTES OVER OIL REVENUE WITH - THE FEDERAL GOVERNMENT IN - BAGHDAD. - >> ( translated ): THE K.R.G. - HAS ABOVE ONE MILLION CIVIL - SERVANTS, BUT UNFORTUNATELY - WE'VE BEEN CUT OFF FROM THE FULL - BUDGET AND PAYMENTS FROM BAGHDAD - FOR SEVEN YEARS. - >> Reporter: IN THE NEARBY TOWN - OF RANIA, THE CITY CENTER TEEMS - WITH UNEMPLOYED MEN. - THOSE WE SPOKE TO BLAMED NOT - BAGHDAD, BUT NEPOTISM AND - CORRUPTION INSIDE KURDISTAN'S - OWN GOVERNMENT, LONG DOMINATED - BY TWO FAMILIES AND THEIR - RESPECTIVE POLITICAL PARTIES. - THESE TWO FRIENDS ARE BOTH - RECENT UNIVERSITY GRADUATES. - ONE IS A LICENSED LAWYER, THE - OTHER A MICROBIOLOGIST WHO - GRADUATED TOP OF HIS CLASS. - NEITHER HAS BEEN ABLE TO FIND - WORK. - >> ( translated ): IF YOU HAVE - POLITICAL SUPPORT, YOU CAN GO - FAR IN MANY FIELDS. - BUT IF YOU DON'T HAVE POLITICAL - SUPPORT, NOBODY WILL HIRE YOU. - >> Reporter: AND SO THE ONLY

- OPTION THEY SEE IS TO HEAD FOR - EUROPE, NO MATTER HOW. - THE WINDOW OF OPPORTUNITY TO - REACH THE E.U. THROUGH BELARUS - MAY BE CLOSING, BUT ALREADY, - TRAVEL AGENCIES HERE IN IRAQI - KURDISTAN ARE OFFERING PACKAGE - DEALS FOR OTHER EUROPEAN - COUNTRIES. - A TICKET AND VISA TO CROATIA FOR - EXAMPLE, SELLS FOR $7000. - IT'S A PRICE MANY HERE ARE - WILLING TO PAY. - WE MEET A MAN WHO FACILITATES - TRIPS TO EUROPE THROUGH A GROUP - ON THE MESSAGING APP TELEGRAM. - HE CLAIMS THAT HE ISN'T A - SMUGGLER, BUT WANTED TO REMAIN - ANONYMOUS IN FEAR OF - AUTHORITIES. - HE EXPLAINS HOW THE PROCESS - WORKS. - >> ( translated ): PEOPLE WILL - GIVE THE MONEY TO AN - INTERMEDIARY IN ERBIL. - WHEN THEY REACH THEIR FINAL - DESTINATION IN GERMANY, THEY - WILL CONFIRM THAT THEY ARE AT A - CERTAIN HOTEL IN GERMANY AND THE - INTERMEDIARY WILL RELEASE THE - PAYMENT TO THE SMUGGLER. - >> Reporter: THE KURDISH - GOVERNMENT HAS VOWED TO CRACK - DOWN ON THESE NETWORKS. - BUT WITHOUT ADDRESSING THE - STRUCTURAL ISSUES FUELING THE - LATEST EXODUS OF IRAQIS, THE

- CRISIS AT EUROPE'S BORDERS IS - LIKELY TO ENDURE. - FOR THE PBS NEWSHOUR, I'M SIMONA - FOLTYN IN IRAQI KURDISTAN. - >> Nawaz: NASA HAS LAUNCHED A - SATELLITE INTO ORBIT ON A - MISSION TO SMASH ITSELF INTO AN - ASTEROID. - IT'S A TEST TO SEE WHETHER IT IS - POSSIBLE TO KNOCK A SPEEDING - SPACE ROCK OFF COURSE IF ONE - WERE ON A COLLISION COURSE WITH - EARTH. - WE SHOULD SAY, THE ASTEROID - TARGETED IN THIS CASE IS NOT A - THREAT TO OUR PLANET. - TO BREAK IT ALL DOWN, I'M NOW - JOINED BY PBS NEWSHOUR SCIENCE - CORRESPONDENT MILES O'BRIEN. - MILES, WELCOME BACK. - ALWAYS GOOD TO SEE YOU. - TELL US A LITTLE BIT ABOUT THIS - MISSION PANNED WHAT N.A.S.A. - HOPES TO ACCOMPLISH HERE. - >> WELL, AS YOU JUST MENTIONED, - IT'S THE FIRST SPACECRAFT - LAUNCHED TO TEST THE IDEA OF - DEFENDING EARTH AGAINST AN - ASTEROID OR A COMET THAT PUTS A

- BULLS-EYE ON US. - IT'S A REFRIGERATOR-SIZED - SPACECRAFT, LAUNCHED ON TOP OF A - FALCON 9 ROCKET IN THE EARLY - HOURS TO HAVE THE DAY FROM - VANDENBURG SPACE FORCE BASE IN - CALIFORNIA. - SO FAR NO PROBLEMS, A - $310 MILLION MISSION. - TEN MONTH JOURNEY, MILLIONS OF - MILES TO AN ASTEROID, THEY'RE - FOCUSED ON ITS TINY MOON. - DART IS EXPECTED TO IMPACT THE - ASTEROID ON SEPTEMBER 6. - MARK YOUR CALENDARS. - >> Nawaz: DART, OF COURSE, - STANDS FOR. - >> IT IS TE DOUBLE ASTEROID - REDIRECTION TEST, AND IT'S - CALLED THAT BECAUSE IT'S A - BINARY SYSTEM OF ASTEROIDS. - DIDYMOS, THE BIG ONE IS 25 FEET - LONG, EPIC, AND ITS MOON - DIMORPHOS IS ABOUT THE SIZE OF - THE WASHINGTON MONUMENT. - DART IS AIMING FOR DIMORPHOS. - THE IDEA IS TO NUDGE IT, CRASH - IN AND CHANGE THE SPEED JUST - ENOUGH, LITERALLY A CENTIMETER - PER SECOND OR .02 MILES PER

- HOUR, DOESN'T SOUND LIKE MUCH, - BUT IF YOU NUDGE SOMETHING LIKE - THAT FAR ENOUGH AHEAD OF THE - DATE OF IMPACT, IT COULD TURN A - CITY KILLER INTO A NEAR MISS AND - FUN NIGHT FOR ASTRONOMERS. - >> Nawaz: TRAVELING A LONG WAY - TO HIT A SMALL BULLS-EYE, HOW - WILL THEY PULL IT OFF AND HOW - WILL WE KNOW IF IT WORKS. - >> WE'RE GOING TO HAVE - PHOTOGRAPHIC PROOF. - IT IS 6.8 MILLION MILES AWAY. - IT'S A TINY LITTLE ROCK, A FEAT - OF NAVIGATION INGENUITY, BUT - IT'S NOT HAND FLYING. - NO WAY YOU COULD DO THAT. - IT WILL HOME IN ON THE LITTLE - ASTEROID AUTONOMOUSLY. - AND JUST CRASH RIGHT IN, WE - HOPE. - THERE IS A TINY CUBE SET THAT'S - ATTACHED TO THE BIG SPACECRAFT - THAT WILL SEPARATE RIGHT BEFORE - IMPACT. - HAS A COUPLE OF CAMERAS ON BOARD - AND IT WILL DOCUMENT IT, AND WE - CALL THAT THE MONEY SHOT, AMNA. - WE KNOW WHAT THIS MIGHT LOOK - LIKE.

- IN 2005 THERE WAS A SPACECRAFT - CALLED DEEP IMPACT, IT PLOWED - INTO A COMET CALLED TEMPEL-ONE. - THE GOAL OF THAT MISSION WASN'T - PLANETARY PROTECTION BUT RATHER - JUST TO KICK UP SOME DUST AND - LOOK AND SEE WHAT THE COMET WAS - MADE OF. - BUT THEY FOUND OUT IT DID CHANGE - ITS ORBIT. - >> Nawaz: WE SHOULD BE CLEAR - THIS PARTICULAR ASTEROID IS NOT - A THREAT. - BUT HOW BIG IS THE CONCERN ABOUT - ASTROID LIKE IT OR A COMET - STRIKING EARTH AND CAUSING SOME - KIND OF CALAMITY? - >> DIMORPHOS IS THE SIZE OF A - KIND OF OBJECT THAT HITS EARTH - EVERY FEW THOUSAND YEARS, AMNA. - IT WOULD CAUSE REGIONAL - DEVASTATION. - IT'S A BIG DEAL. - WE LIVE IN A ROUGH NEIGHBORHOOD. - WANT PROOF, TAKE A LOOK AT THE - MAN AND CRATERS. - MOST GET COVERED UP ON EARTH - INCLUDING THE GIANT CRATER - $65 MILLION AFTER A BIG ASTEROID - WIPED OUT THE DINOSAURS. - CITY KILLERS ARE MORE COMMON. - IN 2013 WE SAW A 60-FOOT - ASTEROID EXPLODED IN RUSSIA, - EQUIVALENT TO 30 ATOMIC BOMBS

- AND INJURED 1500 PEOPLE BECAUSE - THEY ALL WENT TO THEIR WAIN DOSE - AND THE WINDOWS BROKE AND MANY - PEOPLE GOT CUT. - THE MOST IMPORTANT THING REALLY - IS TO CATALOG ALL THESE OBJECTS. - WE KNOW WHERE 90% OF THE EARTH - ENDERS ARE, SO WE'RE AHEAD OF - THE DINOSAURS. - BUT WE STILL HAVE A LOT OF WORK - TO DO ON THE LARGER BUT NOT THAT - LARGE OBJECTS. - ONLY 30% OF THOSE REGIONAL - DISASTER ROCKS HAVE BEEN - IDENTIFIED. - SO WE HAVE A LOT OF WORK TO DO. - >> Nawaz: SO SENDING A - REFRIGERATOR SIZE SPACECRAFT - MILLIONS MILES AWAY TO NUDGE A - ASTEROID OFF COURSE, IS THAT THE - BEST PLAN WE HAVE IF SOMETHING - WERE TO TARGET EARTH? - >> WE COULD RECRUITS A TEAM OF - MISFIT OIL ROUSTABOUTS LED BY - BRUCE WILLIS SENT OUT TO BLOW - THEM UP, BUT MAYBE WE SHOULD - LEAVE THAT TO HOLLYWOOD. - THE IMPACT IDEA IS JUST ONE - IDEA. - THE OTHER IDEA IS A GRAVITY - TRACTOR, A SPACECRAFT THAT WOULD - BE NEAR AN OBJECT, OVERIT OR - ORBIT IT AND PERTURB ITS - TRAJECTORY ENOUGH TO MOVE IT OUT

- OF HARM'S WAY. - AND IF THE CHIPS ARE REALLY DOWN - AND THERE WASN'T MUCH TIME AND - BRUCE WILLIS WAS HOLDING OUT FOR - MORE MONEY, YOU COULD LAUNCH A - NUCLEAR BOMB INTO SPACE AND - EXPLODE IT YEAR A BIG OBJECT - HOPING TO NUDGE IT OUT OF OUR - DIRECTION AND OUT OF HARM'S WAY. - LET'S HOPE THAT DOESN'T HAPPEN. - >> Nawaz: HERE IS HOPING. - HERE IS HOPING. - MILES O'BRIEN, "PBS NEWSHOUR" - CONTESTANT. - ALWAYS GOOD TO SEE YOU. - >> Reporter: WELCOME, AMNA. - >> Nawaz: POLITICAL LINES ARE - CHANGING, AS STATES ACROSS THE - COUNTRY REDRAW THEIR - CONGRESSIONAL MAPS, A PROCESS - WITH HUGE IMPLICATIONS FOR THE - BALANCE OF POWER IN WASHINGTON. - LISA DESJARDINS HAS MORE. - >> Desjardins: THE DECENNIAL - REDISTRICTING PROCESS IS IN FULL - SWING. - THE STAKES ARE EVEN HIGHER THAN

- USUAL, BECAUSE THE MARGINS IN - CONGRESS ARE SO TIGHT. - DEMOCRATS CONTROL THE HOUSE OF - REPRESENTATIVES BY JUST THREE - SEATS. - DUE TO POPULATION CHANGES, THIS - YEAR SIX STATES, MOST IN THE - SOUTH, GAINED A CONGRESSIONAL - DISTRICT, WITH TEXAS ADDING TWO - MORE SEATS. - IN TURN, SEVEN STATES, LARGELY - IN THE RUST BELT, WILL BE LOSING - A SEAT. - ADDING TO THAT DRAMA, CONSIDER: - THESE MAPS ARE BEING MADE IN A - PANDEMIC AND AMIDST RAZOR-SHARP - POLITICAL DIVIDE. - TO DIVE IN, I'M JOINED BY TWO - REDISTRICTING HEAVYWEIGHTS, - DAVID WASSERMAN OF THE "COOK - POLITICAL REPORT," AND COLBY - ITKOWITZ OF THE "WASHINGTON - POST." - LET ME JUST START BY SETTING THE - TABLE FOR THE TWO OF YOU. - IN JUST A FEW WORDS, CAN YOU - DESCRIBE THIS REDISTRICTING - PROCESS RIGHT NOW? - DAVID. - >> IT'S AN ARMS RACE AND - REPUBLICANS HAVE AN UPPER HAND - IN IT. - THEY'RE LIKELY TO BENEFIT IN - TERMS OF SEATS BY A MODEST - AMOUNT. - BUT THE BIGGEST VICTIM IN ALL OF - THIS GERRYMANDERING IS - COMPETITION. - WE'RE LIKELY TO SEE THE NUMBER - OF COMPETITIVE SEATS IN THE

- HOUSE REDUCED BY AS MUCH AS A - THIRD - >> Desjardins: AND COLBY? - >> I WOULD ADD TO THAT - DISAPPOINTING FOR VOTING RIGHTS - ADVOCATES. - FOR VOTERS WHO OVER THE LAST - DECADE HAD APPROVED BALLOT - INITIATIVES BY HUGE MARGINS - ASKING FOR POLITICS AND - PARTISANSHIP TO BE TAKEN OUT OF - THIS PROCESS. - AND IN SO MANY STATES, IT STILL - REMAINS TO BE THE CASE THAT - POLITICIANS ARE DRAWING LINES - AND CHOOSING VOTERS INSTEAD OF - VOTERS CHOOSING THEM. - >> Desjardins: OKAY, LET'S DIVE - IN FIRST WITH THE WHERE. - LOOKING AT SOME OF THE MAPS - WE'VE PICKED TO ILLUSTRATIVE - STATE AND WE'RE GOING TO START - WITH ILLINOIS. - FIRST OF ALL, HERE IS WHAT THE - STATE CONGRESSIONAL MAPS LOOK - LIKE AT THIS MOMENT BEFORE THEY - ARE CHANGED. - YOU SEE, RED AND BLUE DIVIDE RED - REPUBLICAN, BLUE FOR THE - DEMOCRATS AND OF COURSE YELLOW - FOR COMPETITIVE STATES. - THEN HERE IS THE NEW MAP AS IT - STANDS RIGHT NOW YOU SEE A - CHANGE WITH THAT MORE BLUE - GROWING AND THAT NIGHT, THAT NEW - BLUE DISTRICT THROUGH THE MIDDLE - IN THE BOTTOM. - DAVID, WHAT'S GOING ON IN - ILLINOIS. - >> THIS IS PRETTY AGGRESSIVE - DEMOCRATIC GERRYMANDER AND

- CURRENTLY ILLINOIS 13 - REPUBLICANS AND FIVE DEMOCRATS. - GOVERNOR J.B. PRITZKER JUST - SIGNED A MAP INTO LAW THAT AIMS - TO GIVE DEMOCRATS 14 SEATS TO - JUST THREE FOR REPUBLICANS. - NOW OF COURSE, JUST BECAUSE YOU - DRAW A MAP DOESN'T WIN YOU - DOESN'T MEAN YOU AUTOMATICALLY - WIN THE SEATS. - DEMOCRATS COULD STILL SEE A - COUPLE OF DISTRICTS BACKFIRE ON - THEM IF THEY HAVE A BAD CYCLE. - BUT IT JUST GOES TO SHOW THE - LENGTHS TO WHICH PARTIES GO TO - TO TRY AND ENTRENCH THEIR - ADVANTAGE. - >> Desjardins: LET'S TALK ABOUT - THE LONE STAR STATE WITH THE TWO - SEAT PICKUP TEXAS. - HERE IS WHAT THE TEXAS - CONGRESSIONAL MAP LOOKS LIKE - RIGHT NOW. - YOU NOTICE THOSE COMPETITIVE - SEATS, THEY'RE DOWN AROUND - HOUSTON AND A LITTLE BIT NORTH. - HERE IS WHERE TEXAS IS MOVING TO - THE NEW MAP. - YOU SEE NOW MORE BLUE STATES AND - NOT JUST ONE STRIP OF YELLOW - BECOMING MORE PARTISAN. - COLBY, TEXAS IS A STATE THAT HAS - GAINED LARGELY BECAUSE OF THE - GAIN IN ITS MOST DIVERSE - POPULATION. - WHAT DO THESE SEATS MEAN WHAT'S

- HAPPENING THERE? - >> SO AS THE ABOUT FOUR MILLION - NEW POPULATION FOUND IN THE - CENSUS, IN TEXAS, MORE THAN TWO - MILLION OF THAT CAME FROM - LATINOS AND LATINAS DID NOT GAIN - A NEW DISTRICT IN THIS MAP. - AND SO THERE'S A LOT OF - LITIGATION GOING ON ABOUT THAT - PARTICULAR ISSUE. - NOW, WHEN YOU LOOK AT THE MAP, - IT LOOKS LIKE IT'S PRETTY FAIR - DEMOCRATS, TO YOUR POINT THERE - IS MORE BLUE OF THE TWO SEATS. - ONE IS GOING TO DEMOCRATS AROUND - AUSTIN REPUBLICANS ARE TAKING - THE OTHER. - THE REPUBLICANS HAVE - STRATEGICALLY DONE IS THEY'VE - SHORED UP THERE AND COME IN AND - THEY'VE ALSO TAKEN AWAY - COMPETITIVE SEATS. - THERE'S ONLY THAT ONE - COMPETITIVE SEAT LEFT. - AND WHAT THAT MEANS IS THAT THE - DEMOGRAPHICS OF TEXAS CONTINUE - TO CHANGE AS MORE LATINOS - CONTINUE TO MOVE INTO THE STATE. - THEY'RE TRYING TO ENSURE THAT - THOSE COMPETITIVE SEATS WOULDN'T - HAVE TURNED BLUE. - NOW THEY'RE SAVING REPUBLICANS - FOR THE BETTER PART OF THE NEXT - DECADE. - >> Desjardins: AND OF COURSE, - BOTH OF THESE STATES, LIKE MANY - ARE GOING TO SEE A NUMBER OF - LAWSUITS OVER ALL OF THESE MAPS. - IN THE MEANWHILE, I ALSO WANT TO

- ASK YOU ALL ABOUT THE WHO, WHO - IS DRAWING THESE MAPS, THE MAP - MAKERS, WE'VE SEEN SOMETHING - CHANGED THIS YEAR. - THAT'S REALLY INTERESTING. I - WANT TO SHOW OUR VIEWERS, WHICH - STATES HAVE INDEPENDENT - REDISTRICTING COMMISSIONS, YOU - SUM ALL THAT UP AS I KNOW YOU - HAVE DAVID AND MORE THAN A - QUARTER OF CONGRESSIONAL SEATS - ARE BEING MAPPED OUT BY THESE - INDEPENDENT REDISTRICTING - COMMISSIONS. - DAVID, WHAT ARE THE MAPS MADE BY - THOSE INDEPENDENT COMMISSIONS - LOOK LIKE SO FAR? - AND WHAT DO WE THINK THAT MEANS - IN THE IN THE END? - >> SO COLORADO AND MONTANA, BOTH - OF WHICH ARE GAINING A SEAT HAVE - COMMISSIONS, THEY'VE PASSED MAPS - THAT CREATE DISTRICTS THAT COULD - BE COMPETITIVE NEXT YEAR, BUT - COMMISSIONS ARE A BIG REASON WHY - DEMOCRATS ARE AT A DISADVANTAGE - HERE BECAUSE A NUMBER OF BLUE - STATES LIKE CALIFORNIA, NEW - JERSEY, VIRGINIA, COLORADO, - WASHINGTON STATE, THEY'VE - ADOPTED THESE REFORMS, WHEREAS - REDDER STATES LIKE TEXAS, HAVE - NOT AND SO REPUBLICANS HAVE THE - POWER TO DRAW MORE THAN TWICE AS - MANY CONGRESSIONAL DISTRICTS AS

- DEMOCRATS. - AND THAT'S A REASON WHY THEIR - FAVORITE FOR HOUSE CONTROL NEXT - YEAR. - >> Desjardins: ONE THING ABOUT - THESE COMMISSIONS I'M NOT SURE - EVERYONE UNDERSTANDS THE IDEA OF - AN INDEPENDENT COMMISSION - ARE WE SEEING EXAMPLES OR WHERE - ARE WE SEEING EXAMPLES THAT - PERHAPS THE STATE LEGISLATURE - STILL IS INTERVENING IN HERE - WHEN PERHAPS VOTERS WANTED - SOMETHING OUTSIDE OF THE - LEGISLATURE TO ACT? - >> ONE STATE THAT WE'RE STILL - WAITING TO SEE WHAT THEY DO IS - NEW YORK, NEW YORK, VOTERS - PASSED WHAT WAS CALLED AN - ADVISORY COMMISSION, AN ADVISORY - COMMISSION WENT AROUND THE STATE - OF INDEPENDENT ACTORS WERE THAT - WERE PUT ON THIS COMMISSION. - THEY WENT AROUND NEW YORK - HOLDING PUBLIC HEARINGS, THEY - PUT TOGETHER MAPS AND THEY WENT - AROUND HOLDING HEARINGS AGAIN ON - THOSE MAPS. - BUT IT'S NOT BINDING. - AND SO THE MAP THAT THEY PUT - TOGETHER, THE DEMOCRATIC - LEGISLATURE, IN NEW YORK WITH A - DEMOCRATIC GOVERNOR CAN JUST - OVERRIDE WHAT THEY DID, AND DRAW - A MAP TO THEIR ADVANTAGE. - AND LIKE DAVE SAID THE DEMOCRATS - ARE AT SUCH A DISADVANTAGE IN - THIS PROCESS OVERALL, IS THAT - YOU LOOK TO PLACES LIKE ILLINOIS - AND NEW YORK, DO YOU THINK DO - THE DEMOCRATS UNILATERALLY

- DISARM? - OR DO THEY TRY TO DRAW LINES AS - MUCH TO THEIR ADVANTAGE AS - POSSIBLE, SO THAT THEY CAN TRY - TO KEEP THE HOUSE. - >> Desjardins: ONE LAST QUESTION - FOR YOU BOTH. - CAN YOU TALK ABOUT THE ARMS RACE - AS I THINK YOU CALLED IT? - DAVID, HOW MUCH MONEY IS GOING - INTO ALL OF THIS? - HOW MUCH DOES THIS PROCESS - IMPACT WHO IS IN CHARGE IN OUR - GOVERNMENT VERSUS OTHER THINGS - WE TALK ABOUT, LIKE VOTING - RIGHTS, ALL OF THOSE DEBATES. - EXPLAIN TO VIEWERS WHAT'S - INVOLVED IN THE STAKES RIGHT - NOW, DAVID? - >> REDISTRICTING TENDS TO GET - LESS ATTENTION THAN FIGHTS OVER - VOTING PROCEDURES BUT IT'S MUCH - MORE CONSEQUENTIAL TO OUTCOME. - THAT'S WHY THE PARTIES ARE - POURING HUNDREDS OF MILLIONS OF - DOLLARS INTO LEGAL FIGHTS AND, - AND STRATEGY OVER REDISTRICTING. - KEEP IN MIND THAT BECAUSE - NEITHER CONGRESS NOR THE SUPREME - COURT HAS ACTED TO PUT UP ANY - GUARDRAILS AGAINST - GERRYMANDERING AND STATE SUPREME - COURTS COULD BE THE LAST - BACKSTOP AGAINST THE MOST - EXTREME IMPULSES OF PARTISANS - WHO ARE IN CHARGE OF DRAWING - MAPS ESSENTIALLY CHOOSING THEIR - OWN VOTERS TO BENEFIT THEIR OWN

- PARTY'S ELECTORAL PROSPECTS. - >> Desjardins: COLBY WHAT STAKES - DO YOU SEE? - >> ABSOLUTELY. - I MEAN, NANCY PELOSI IS HOLDING - ON TO THE HOUSE LIKE YOU NOTED - BY A VERY, VERY SLIM MARGIN. - AND SO WHEN YOU DRAW THESE - LINES, ANY LITTLE BIT, YOU KNOW, - A SHIFT OF THE SEAT HERE A SEAT - THERE, COULDN'T BE IN THE - REPUBLICANS TAKE CONTROL IN - 2022. - AND SO THERE IS SO MUCH AT - STAKE, THERE LEGAL FIGHTS IN - ALMOST ALL OF THE STATES THAT - HAVE DRAWN MAPS THE REPUBLICANS - ARE GOING TO FIND PLACES LIKE - ILLINOIS, LIKE MARYLAND AND NEW - YORK AND THE DEMOCRATS ARE GONNA - HYPE EVERYWHERE ELSE AND YOU'RE - GONNA SEE THIS THING PLAY OUT - FOR YEARS AND YEARS AND YEARS - JUST TO TRY TO GET BACK IN - THEATER TO BECAUSE THAT'S HOW - PROCESS PROCESSES. - >> Desjardins: NOT GETTING A LOT - OF SLEEP RIGHT NOW AND WE - APPRECIATE IT, DAVID WASSERMAN - AND COLBY ITKOWITZ, THANK YOU - BOTH. - >> THA YOU. - >> Nawaz: MANY AMERICANS WILL BE - CATCHING UP ON THEIR SHARE OF

- FOOTBALL ON THANKSGIVING AND - INTO THE EXTENDED WEEKEND. - AND AS SPORTS FANS KNOW, THE - N.F.L.'S APPROACH TO A NUMBER OF - ISSUES AROUND RACE AND POLITICS - HAVE BEEN THE SUBJECT OF MUCH - DEBATE AND CONCERN. - JUDY WOODRUFF HAS A CONVERSATION - ABOUT A NEW BOOK THAT EXAMINES - THE LARGER STRUGGLES IN THAT - LEAGUE AND OTHERS WHEN IT COMES - TO RACE. - >> Woodruff: ACTIVISM, POLITICS - AND RACIAL DISCRIMINATION HAVE - LONG INTERSECTED WITH SPORTS. - BUT MANY ATHLETES HAVE BECOME - MORE VOCAL IN RECENT YEARS ABOUT - THOSE ISSUES. - PRO FOOTBALL'S COLIN KAEPERNICK - PUT HIMSELF FRONT AND CENTER - WHEN HE TOOK A KNEE BACK IN 16 - TO PROTEST RACIAL INJUSTICE AND - TREATMENT BY POLICE. - A NEW BOOK LOOKS AT THESE AND - THE MANY OTHER BATTLES BLACK - ATHLETES HAVE LONG FACED. - IT IS CALLED "RAISE A FIST. TAKE - A KNEE: RACE AND THE ILLUSION OF - PROGRESS IN MODERN SPORTS." - ITS AUTHOR, SPORTSWRITER JOHN - FEINSTEIN, JOINS ME NOW, AND - JOHN FEINSTEIN, WELCOME BACK TO - THE NEWSHOUR. - >> JUDY, ALWAYS GOOD TO BE BACK.

- THANKS. - >> Woodruff: YOU HAVE WRITTEN, - WHAT IS IT, MORE THAN 40 BOOKS, - ALMOST ALL OF THEM ABOUT SPORTS. - >> RIGHT. - >> Woodruff: BUT YOU TOLD ME - THAT THIS MAY BE THE MOST - IMPORTANT ONE. - >> IT IS TO ME BECAUSE OF THE - SUBJECT MATTER. - I'VE WRITTEN ABOUT A LOT OF - DIFFERENT PEOPLE IN SPORTS, AS - YOU WELL KNOW, IN DIFFERENT - SPORTS, BUT, FOR YEARS, DOING - WHAT I DO, I'VE -- I THINK I'VE - HAD SOME UNDERSTANDING THAT RACE - PLAYS A ROLE IN OUR ENTIRE - SOCIETY AS WE SEE ALL THE TIME - NOWADAYS, BUT VERY MUCH IN - SPORTS. - IT'S NOT HARD, IF YOU'RE A - PLAYER, TO GET A CHANCE TO PLAY - BECAUSE PLAYING IS A M - MERITOCRACY, BUT GETTING A JOB - AS A HEAD COACH IN THE N.F.L., - GETTING A JOB AS HEAD COACH IN - FOOTBALL, BASKETBALL, GENERAL - MANAGER JOBS, C.E.O. JOBS, THOSE - ARE MUCH HARDER AND THERE ARE - NUMBERS THAT BACK UP THOSE - FACTS. - IN FACT THE LAST 20 N.F.L. JOBS - THAT OPENED, 75% OF THE PLAYERS - ARE BLACK, TWO BLACK COACHES

- HAVE BEEN HIRED, AND BELIEVE ME - WHEN I TELL YOU THERE ARE PLENTY - OF QUALIFIED CANDIDATES FOR - THESE JOBS AND THEY'RE NOT - GETTING THEM. - >> Woodruff: I WANT TO ASK YOU - ABOUT THAT. - STARTING WITH FOOTBALL, WE KNOW - THAT A LOT HAS CHANGED WITH - REGARD TO BLACK ATHLETES AND - WHAT THEY WERE ABLE TO DO IN - FOOTBALL. - IT WAS, WHAT, NOT TOO MANY - DECADES AGO BLACKS WERE - CONSIDERED UNFIT TO BE A - QUARTERBACK. - >> RIGHT. - >> Woodruff: BUT TODAY, IF YOU - LIST THE HALF DOZEN OR SO TOP - QUARTERBACKs IN THE COUNTRY -- - PATRICK MA HONES, DAK PRESCOTT, - LAMAR JACKSON -- THEY'RE THERE - THE TOP, BUT IT'S BEEN A TORE - CLUES PATH. - >> IT HAS BEEN. - GOING BACK TO MARLIN BRISCOE THE - FIRST QUARTERBACK WHO PLAYED IN - EITHER THE AF.L. OR THE N.F.L., - 1968, DENVER, HE WAS SECOND IN - THE ROOKIE OF THE YEAR VOTING - AND NEVER GOT A CHANCE TO PLAY - QUARTERBACK IN THE N.F.L. AGAIN. - JAMES HARRIS, THE FIRST BLACK - QUARTERBACK TO START FOR A TEAM - THAT WENT TO THE PLAYOFFS, WAS

- TOLD HE WOULD BE DRAFTED MUCH - HIGHER THAN THE EIGHTH ROUND IF - HE WOULD CHANGE POSITIONS. - THAT'S WHAT THEY DID IN THOSE - DAYSASK BLACK QUARTERBACKS TO - CHANGE POSITIONS BECAUSE THEY - WERE FAST AND NOT "SMART ENOUGH" - TO PLAY THE POSITION. - EVEN KNOW WITH ALL THE PROGRESS - WE'VE MADE, THAT'S THE REASON - FOR THE SUBTITLE, LAMAR JACKSON - WHEN HE CAME OUT OF LOUISVILLE - IN 2018 TOLD TO CHANGE - POSITIONS, 15 YEARS AFTER - BRISCOE, BECAME A WIDE RECEIVER, - RUNNING BACK, AND HE REFUSED. - FOUR WHITE QUARTERBACKSER ARE - DRAFTED IN THE TOP TEN, LAMAR - JACKSON ONLY WENT IN THE FIRST - ROUND BECAUSE HE WAS LAST PICK - CHOWEDDEN BY ROZY NEWSUM THE - FIRST BLACK MANAGER IN THE - N.F.L., AND WE KNOW WHAT - HAPPENED, LAMAR JACKSON HAS - BECOME AN M.V.P. AND THE BEST TO - HAVE THE GROUP AND LOVES TO COME - IN AFTER A GAME AND GO, NOT BAD - AFTER A RUNNING -- FOR A RUNNING - BACK. - (LAUGHTER)

- >> Woodruff: COLIN KAEPERNICK - FAMOUSLY TOOK A IN A SIX YEARS - AGO. - HE WAS SINGLED OUT, ATTACKED BY - FORMER PRESIDENT TRUMP. - HAS HE BEEN BLACKBALLED BY THE - N.F.L. BECAUSE OF RACE? - >> THE THANKSGIVING COMING UP? - ABSOLUTELY, 100% HE'S BEEN - BLACKBALLED, NOT BECAUSE OF RACE - BUT BECAUSE HE KNELT, BECAUSE HE - TOOK ON THE ESTABLISHMENT, - BECAUSE HE SAID I SEE WRONG AND - I'M GOING TO NOT STAND UP FOR IT - BUT KNEEL FOR IT. - PEOPLE FORGET, HE WAS THE - STARTING QUARTERBACK IN FRANCE - THE LAST 11 GAMES IN THE 2016 - SEASON THEN COULDN'T GET A JOB. - NOBODY WOULD SIGN HIM EVEN AS A - BACKUP. - THERE ARE 64 QUARTERBACKING JOBS - IN N.F.L., AND HE WASN'T -- ALL - OF A SUDDEN HE WASN'T ONE TO - HAVE THE BEST 64 QUARTERBACKs. - N.F.L. PEOPLE LARGELY THROUGH - THE WHITE MEDIA CLAIM, OH, HE - WASN'T AS GOOD A PLAYER, HE - COULDN'T GET A JOB BECAUSE HE - WASN'T THAT GOOD. - NO, HE COULDN'T GET A JOB - BECAUSE HE WAS BLACKBALLED AND

- ROGER GOODELL BASICALLY ADMITTED - IT. - >> Woodruff: YOU DEDICATE THE - BOOK. - ONE OF THE PEOPLE YOU DEDICATE - IT TO IS A COLLEGE BASKETBALL - COACH JOHN THOMPSON, FAMED COACH - AT GEORGETOWN. - TELL US ABOUT HIM. - YOU HAD A TEMPESTUOUS - RELATIONSHIP AND HE SAID HE - WANTED YOU, A WHITE MAN, TO - WRITE THIS BOOK. - >> AFTER HE RETIRED, WE BECAME - FRIENDS. - HE BECAME A MENTOR TO ME. - JOHN WAS AS SMART A MAN I KNEW - IN ANY WALK OF LIFE. - WHEN I KNEW I WANTED TO TRY TO - WRITE A BOOK LIKE THIS WAS - DURING A 2017 ANTHEM PROTEST, - WHEN I WOULD SIT IN THE FOOTBALL - STADIUM AND HEAR 90% OF THE FANS - BOO THE PLAYERS 90% WHO WERE - BLACK KNEELING, AND I WENT TO - SEE JOHN AND SAID I WANT TO - WRITE A BOOK ABOUT RACE IN - SPORTS AND HE LAUGHED AND SAID - IN HIS DEEP VOICE, YOU MIGHT AS - WELL TRY TO EX PLAN THE HOLY - TRINITY, POINTED AT ME, AND - SAID, BUT THAT'S WHY YOU HAVE TO

- DO IT. - SEVERAL OF MY COLLEAGUES SAID - THE SAME THING. - I CAN'T CLAIM TO UNDERSTAND THE - BLACK EXPERIENCE, BUT I CAN'T - CLAIM TO UNDERSTAND WHAT IT'S - LIKE TO BE A BIG TIME COLLEGE - BASKETBALL COACH AND I'VE - WRITTEN ABOUT THEM YEARS AND - YEARS BECAUSE I HAVE BEEN ABLE - TO TALK WITH THEM. - SAME WITH THIS BOOK. - I TALKED ABOUT 100 GUYS, ALL OF - THEM HAD DIFFERENT STORIES, BUT - I THINK THEY WERE STORIES THAT - NEED TO BE TOLD. - >> Woodruff: NOT ALL BLACK - AHLETES HAVE CHOSEN TO BE - ACTIVISTS. - WE THINK OF MICHAEL JORDAN, - TIGER WOODS AND OTHERS, BUT YOU - WRITE IN THE BOOK ABOUT HOW - EVERY -- AND YOU TALKED TO - SCORES OF BLACK ATHLETES. - >> I DID. - >> Woodruff: EVERY SINGLE ONE - OF THEM, YOU SAID, IT'S AS IF - THEY HAVE TWO JOBS -- ONE IS TO - BE -- YOU KNOW, TO DO THEIR JOB, - BUT THE OTHER IS TO BE A - BLACKMAN. - >> YES. - >> Woodruff: YOU TALKED ABOUT - DRIVING WHILE BLACK. - >> DRIVING WHILE BLACK. - I DID NOT INTERVIEW ONE BLACK - PERSON WHO HAD NOT HAD AT LEAST - ONE EXPERIENCE WITH DRIVING - WHILE BLACK, PULLED OVER FOR NO - APPARENT REASON AND THE FIRST - QUESTION IS ALWAYS WHERE DID YOU

- GET THIS CAR? - PAUSE A BLACK PERSON IN THE - MINDS OF MANY POLICE SHOULDN'T - BE DRIVING A NICE CAR, - ESPECIALLY AT NIGHT. - THERE'S A STORY THAT DOC RIVERS, - THE COACH OF THE PHILADELPHIA - 76ERS TOLD ME ABOUT ONE OF HIS - TEAMMATES KENNY NORMAN MAKING - THE MISTAKE OF STOPPING TO GET - GAS IN SOUTH CENTRAL L.A., AND - THE NEXT THING HE KNEW, HE WAS - ACROSS THE HOOD OF HIS CAR WITH - HAND CURVES ON BECAUSE THE COPS - PULLED UP AND JUST ASSUMED THE - CAR WAS STOLEN. - MY FAVORITE STORY WAS ABOUT - COLIN JONES THE OLYMPIC SCWIMMER - WHO WENT OUT TO WALK HIS DOG ONE - NIGHT, AND A POLICE CAR WENT BY, - MADE A U-TURN, CAME BACK AND THE - POLICE OFFICER SAID, WHERE DID - YOU GET THAT DOG? - IT'S MY DOG. - WHAT KIND OF DOG IS IT? - BULLDOG TERRIER. - HOW LONG HAVE YOU HAD IT? - SINCE HE WAS A PUPPY. - AND THE GUY GOES, OKAY, AND - DRIVES AWAY. - I SAID TO COLIN, WELL, YOU'RE - THE FIRST PERSON I INTERVIEWED - WHO WAS A VICTIM OF WALKING DOG - WHILE BACK, THAT WAS DIFFERENT. - >> Woodruff: LAST THING, FANS. - YOU TALKED ABOUT THE FANS - REACTING OVER THE LAST FEW YEARS - TO WHAT'S HAPPENED.

- WHAT ROLE DO THEY PLAY IN THIS? - >> THAT'S A GREAT QUESTION. - I THINK THEY AFFECT MANAGEMENT - WITH THE WAY THEY REACT TO - ACTIVISM, THAT IF MANAGEMENT - SENSEUPS THAT FEWER PEOPLE ARE - GOING TO BUY TICKETS, THAT TV - RATINGS MIGHT GO DOWN, TV - RATINGS WENT DOWN IN 2017, AND, - YOU KNOW, DONALD TRUMP WAS - SAYING, THAT'S ALL BECAUSE OF - ALL THESE GUYS KNEELING. - I DON'T THINK IT WAS BECAUSE OF - THAT. - BUT I DO THINK THAT MANAGEMENT - IS VERY CONSCIOUS OF THAT. - >> Woodruff: SUCH AN IMPORTANT - STORY. - SO MANY IMPORTANT STORIES IN - HERE. - "RAISE A FIST. TAKE A KNEE: - RACE AND THE ILLUSION OF - PROGRESS IN MODERN SPORTS." - JOHN FEINSTEIN, THANK YOU VERY - MUCH. - >> JUDY, THANKS FOR HAVING ME. - HAPPY THANKSGIVING. - >> Nawaz: IN BETWEEN MUSCLING - THE "BUILD BACK BETTER" ACT

- THROUGH THE HOUSE OF - REPRESENTATIVES AND DEPARTING - FOR THE HOLIDAY, PRESIDENT BIDEN - MADE TIME FOR ANOTHER EXECUTIVE - DUTY: THE PARDONING OF TWO - TURKEYS. - LISA DESJARDINS IS BACK WITH - THIS REPORT ON HOW THE - THANKSGIVING TRADITION BEGAN. - >> I PARDON YOU. - >> Desjardins: A NEW PRESIDENT - CARRYING ON AN OLD THANKSGIVING - TRADITION-- - ( TURKEY GOBBLE ) - >> Desjardins: BEFORE LEAVING - WASHINGTON FOR THE HOLIDAY, - PRESIDENT BIDEN SPARED TWO LUCKY - TURKEYS, PEANUT BUTTER AND - JELLY, FROM THE DINNER, OR - LUNCH, TABLE. - >> I HAVE TO ADMIT TO YOU, MY - WIFE DOESN'T LIKE TO ADMIT IT, - THAT'S WHAT I LIKE FOR LUNCH: - PEANUT BUTTER AND JELLY. - >> Desjardins: SPRINKLING IN - POLITICAL DAD JOKES, BIDEN SAID - HE'S NUTS ABOUT PROGRESS ON HI“" - BUILD BACK BETTER” BILL AND - JOKED ABOUT HIS BIRD IN THE - HAND, THE NEW INFRASTRUCTURE - LAW. - >> FOLKS, TURKEY IS - INFRASTRUCTURE. - PEANUT BUTTER AND JELLY ARE - GOING TO HELP BUILD BACK THE - BUTTERBALL AS WE MOVE ALONG. - >> Desjardins: THIS TRADITION - HAS HAPPENED EVERY NOVEMBER FOR - THE PAST QUARTER-CENTURY. - BUT THERE ARE SOME, LET'S SAY,

- RUFFLED FEATHERS, ABOUT HOW IT - ALL GOT STARTED. - >> PRESIDENT TRUMAN WAS THE - FIRST PRESIDENT TO PARDON A - TURKEY. - >> Desjardins: NOPE, NOT TRUE. - TRUMAN WAS THE FIRST PRESIDENT - TO RECEIVE A TURKEY FROM THE - NATIONAL TURKEY FEDERATION. - BUT THERE'S NO RECORD OF A - PARDON. - ACCORDING TO THE WHITE HOUSE - HISTORICAL ASSOCIATION, TRUMAN - INSTEAD QUIPPED THAT THE BIRDS - WOULD COME IN HANDY FOR - CHRISTMAS DINNER. - SO, WHO WAS THE FIRST PRESIDENT - TO SAVE A TURKEY? - LINCOLN IS THE FIRST ON RECORD. - AFTER THE APPEAL OF HIS YOUNG - SON, TAD, THE CHRISTMAS TURKEY - BECAME A PET. - PRESIDENT JOHN F. KENNEDY WAS - THE FIRST TO SPARE A - THANKSGIVING BIRD. - IN 1963, DESPITE A SIGN HANGING - AROUND THE TURKEY'S NECK THAT - READ, “GOOD EATING, MR. - PRESIDENT,” KENNEDY SENT THE - GOBBLER BACK TO THE FARM. - RICHARD NIXON FOLLOWED, RETIRING - HIS TURKEYS TO A NEARBY PETTING - ZOO. - RONALD REAGAN CARVED OUT A SPOT - IN HISTORY BY BEING THE FIRST TO - USE THE WORD “PARDON” WHEN - TALKING TURKEY IN 1987. - THE TRADITION BECAME FORMALIZED

- IN 1989, WITH PRESIDENT GEORGE - H.W. BUSH. - >> LET ME ASSURE YOU, AND THIS - FINE TOM TURKEY, THAT HE WILL - NOT END UP ON ANYONE'S DINNER - TABLE, NOT THIS GUY. - >> Desjardins: THE EVENT HAS - BECOME A CENTERPIECE OF WHITE - HOUSE HOLIDAY TRADITION. - >> THIS IS THE EIGHTH I HAVE HAD - THE PRIVILEGE TO MEET AND SET - FREE IN THE ROSE GARDEN. - >> Desjardins: SOME BIRDS HAVE - MORE FLARE THAN OTHERS, LIKE - JERRY THE TURKEY WHO SPORTED A - WHITE HOUSE PASS AROUND HIS NECK - IN 2000. - AND SOME YEARS ADD MORE FUN, - LIKE IN 2004 WHEN THE GEORGE W. - BUSH WHITE HOUSE LET ONLINE - VOTERS CHOOSE THE TURKEYS NAMES. - >> THIS IS AN ELECTION YEAR, AND - BISCUITS HAD TO EARN HIS SPOT AT - THE WHITE HOUSE. - BISCUITS AND HIS RUNNING MATE, - GRAVY, PREVAILED OVER THE TICKET - OF PATIENCE AND FORTITUDE. - >> Desjardins: THE TRADITION - ADJUSTS TO THE TIMES. - LAST YEAR, PRESIDENT DONALD - TRUMP PARDONED “CORN” AND “COB” - AT A TIME WHEN THE PANDEMIC KEPT - MOST FAMILIES APART FOR - THANKSGIVING.

- THE PRESIDENT OFFERED HOPE FOR A - REPRIEVE FROM DISEASE. - >> WE GIVE THANKS FOR THE - VACCINES AND THERAPIES THAT WILL - SOON END THE PANDEMIC. - >> Desjardins: IN CONTRAST, THIS - YEAR'S EVENT, POST-VACCINE, - FEATURED A LIVE JAM-BAND, A - SPREAD-OUT CROWD, TOASTS AND - PUNS ABOUT BOOSTER SHOTS. - >> YES, INSTEAD OF GETTING - BASTED, THESE TWO TURKEYS ARE - GETTING BOOSTED. - >> Desjardins: ALL PEANUT BUTTER - AND HIS WINGMAN, JELLY, KNOW IS - THAT THEIR JOURNEY FROM A FARM - IN JASPER, INDIANA WON'T END IN - AN OVEN OR FRYER THIS - THANKSGIVING. - THEY'RE HEADING BACK TO THE - HOOSIER STATE TO BE ACADEMICS, - OR AT LEAST NEAR ACADEMICS, - LIVING OUT THEIR DAYS AT PURDUE - UNIVERSITY. - FOR THE "TURKIEST" NEWSHOUR, I'M - LISA DESJARDINS. - >> Nawaz: FOR MANY OF US, - INCLUDING MYSELF, THE COVID-19

- PANDEMIC HAS FELT LIKE A - ROLLERCOASTER. - INFECTIONS ARE DOWN, THEN UP. - MASK MANDATES ARE PUT IN PLACE, - THEN DROPPED, THEN REQUIRED - AGAIN. - POET JASMINE GARDOSI WAS ASKED - BY THE BRITISH CHARITY NATIONAL - LITERACY TRUST TO WRITE A POEM - ABOUT THE PANDEMIC, WHICH SHE - DID... RIDING AN ACTUAL ROLLER - COASTER. - IT'S PART OF OUR ARTS AND - CULTURE SERIES, CANVAS. - >> THIS PANDEMIC? - ABSOLUTE ROLLERCOASTER. - WILD. - BUT I'M TRYING TO CARRY ON AS - NORMAL NOW. - THAT'S WHAT EVERYONE ELSE SEEMS - TO BE DOING. - AND I SHOULD BE GRATEFUL WE'VE - GOT OUR FREEDOM BACK. - LOOK AT THE DIRECTION WE'RE - GOING IN, ON THE UP. - FINALLY EMERGING INTO THE LIGHT, - BACK OUT THERE. - IN THE REAL WORLD. - YEAH, MY SOCIAL SKILLS HAVE GONE - OFF THE RAILS BUT... I'M GETTING - THEM BACK ON TRACK. - WE'VE TURNED A CORNER, IN A GOOD - WAY. - I'VE LOVED GOING BACK TO SWEATY - GIGS, AND SITTING ON TRAINS FULL

- OF PEOPLE, AND SHAKING HANDS - WITH ABSOLUTE STRANGERS, AND - COUGHING ONCE AND THINKING IT'S - COVID. - THE PATH FORWARD IS CLEAR... SO - CLEAR. - WE'VE DONE THE HARD WORK, SO - SHOULDN'T IT BE DOWNHILL FROM - HERE? - SEE? - EVERYTHING'S FINE. - IT'S GOING SMOOTHLY. - I'VE FOUND MY RHYTHM. - I'M IN CONTROL. - WE'VE TAKEN A TURN FOR THE - BETTER - AND THEN FOR THE WORSE - AND THEN FOR THE BETTER - AND THEN FOR THE... - WHY DOES IT FEEL LIKE WE'RE - GOING BACKWARDS, AND ROUND IN - CIRCLES AT THE SAME TIME? - OKAY, YOU WANT THE TRUTH? - I'M STILL TERRIFIED. - I FREAK OUT IN CROWDED PLACES. - I CAN'T TELL WHERE MY O.C.D. - ENDS, AND ACCEPTABLE COVID - ANXIETY BEGINS. - I'M AFRAID SO I STAY HOME, I LAY - LOW, I SAY NO.

- NO MATTER WHAT'S HAPPENING WITH - THE NUMBER OF CASES, WE'RE STILL - RIDING THROUGH OUR OWN WAVES, - LIKE MY SHIELDING FRIENDS; - THEY'RE STILL ISOLATED. - WE'RE ON THE SAME COASTER, - DIFFERENT CARTS. - SAME PLAY, DIFFERENT PARTS. - SAME STORM, DIFFERENT BOATS, - HOLDING DIFFERENT FLOATS, - WEARING DIFFERENT COATS. - JUST DO WHATEVER MAKES YOU FEEL - SAFE. - IT'S MORE THAN OKAY TO GO AT - YOUR PACE. - WE'VE STILL COME SO FAR, EVEN IF - WE'RE TECHNICALLY IN THE SAME - PLACE. - >> Nawaz: AND ON THE NEWSHOUR - ONLINE, COVID CASES IN MICHIGAN - ARE SPIKING JUST AS FLU SEASON - BEGINS, WHICH MEANS SCHOOL - DISTRICTS ACROSS THE STATE ARE - ABRUPTLY CANCELING CLASSES, - MOVING CLASSROOM INSTRUCTION - ONLINE, AND OTHER UNUSUAL - MEASURES TO KEEP KIDS AND - TEACHERS SAFE. - READ MORE ON THIS GROWING

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