New Mexico in Focus; 1433; Outdoor Adventures, Redistricting, Liquor Law Changes

>> FUNDING FOR NEW MEXICO MCCUNE CHARITABLE FOUNDATION PROGRAMMING FUND FOR KNME-TV >> Gene: THIS WEEK ON NEW LAWMAKERS DECIDE ON A BETTER BOUNDARIES? >> Page: I THOUGHT EVERYONE WITH THE PROCESS BEING WAY WE WORKED AS A TASK FORCE. >>Gene: PLUS, THE AS WE EXAMINE HOW WE NAME AND NEW MEXICO IN FOCUS STARTS NOW. THANKS FOR JOINING US THIS WEEK. I AM YOUR HOST GENE GRANT. NOW WE HAVE PLAYED IT SAFE PANDEMIC AT NEW MEXICO PBS WHEN WE BRING YOU NEW WE'LL TAKE YOU TO THE WILDS OF THE LINE TALKS REDISTRICTING

OUR LINE OPINION PANEL LOOKS AT THE FORMER REPUBLICAN ON THAT ABORTION BILL, WE BUSINESS FOR RESTAURANTS BY NEW MEXICO'S LIQUOR LAWS. NEW MEXICO'S LIQUOR LAWS AND LIQUOR LICENSES HAVE LONG BEEN REGULATIONS THAT APPLY TO ONE DEPENDING ON WHAT LICENSE THEY NOW ONE RULE HOLDS FIRM, NO DURING THE PANDEMIC MANY THE AIR OUT OF ALREADY A NEW LAW COULD CHANGE THAT LINE OPINION PANEL THIS WEEK, LAURA SANCHEZ IS BACK WITH US. AS WELL, EDITORIAL PAGE EDITOR INEZ RUSSELL GOMEZ, AND OWNER PUBLIC RELATIONS. SHE RETURNS AS WELL. BASED ON WHAT YOU HAVE

>> Merritt: ABSOLUTELY NOT. I MEAN, THIS HAS BEEN -- THE LICENSE REGULATIONS HAS, YOU THING AND THAT IS THE RISE OF IF YOU MAKE IT ON PREMISES YOU LITTLE TOAD CREEK IN SILVER THIS, BUT IT IS A TREND THAT THE STATE. EVEN THE PLAYING FIELD. EXISTING OLD SCHOOL SIX OR LICENSES I UNDERSTAND THEIR MANY PEOPLE GIVE THE EXAMPLE A MARKET WITH TAXI DRIVERS IN MY THOUGHT IS IF YOU HAVE AN

LICENSE YOU GET REPRIEVE FROM >> Gene: I WANT TO COME BACK HOLDING A HALF A MILLION AND WHAT THAT MEANS NOW. HEAR ON THE STREET A LOT. DELIVERY PERSON IS GOING TO BE SOMEONE'S HOME TRYING TO OR NOT TO BE ABLE TO HAND THEM IS THIS ACTUALLY A DOABLE WHEN YOU PICTURE THE SCENARIO? >>Laura: WHAT MAKES -- THERE IS A LOT OF DISCRETION YOU KNOW, DELIVERY DRIVERS OF TEENAGERS, YOUNG ADULTS, THINK WE WOULD NEED TO ADJUST DRIVING TO DELIVER ALCOHOL NECESSARILY BUT MAYBE 25.

MATURITY WHERE YOU SORT OF SOMETHING SHOULD GO WRONG. YOU DON'T WANT SOMEBODY IS MAKING AN ORDER BUDDIES ARE THE ONES SOMETHING LIKE THAT. MISUSE AND PROBLEMS. THOSE CONCERNS SHOULD BE A PROCESS OF EMPOWERING THE DEPARTMENT TO DETERMINE RULES DEAL WITH THAT SORT OF LEGISLATE IT SO SPECIFICALLY. ARE A REASON NOT TO EXPLORE WOULD BE A HUGE REVENUE THAT HAVE BEEN HIT HARD AND YOU KNOW, DO, IN MANY CASES CRAFT DISTILLERY LIQUOR OR AND IT WOULD BE A HUGE BOON FOR

>> Gene: INTERESTING WHEN YOU THINK ABOUT IT, IT IS HARD TO BUT A BOON AS LAURA'S IS THIS THE CLEAR TICKET WE ARE WE SEEING THIS CLEARLY? GOING ON, A LOT OF THINGS NECESSARILY MAKE FOR HOME IMPACTFUL. PLAYS ALONG OVER THE NEXT >> Inez: ONCE PEOPLE CAN GO PATIOS IN THE SUMMER AND FRIENDS AND NOT WANT TO GET THE IMPACT MAY NOT BE WHAT IT HAD THEY BEEN ABLE TO DO IT I BELIEVE THE GOVERNOR WAS DURING THE SPECIAL SESSION IN ON THE OTHER HAND, IF YOU'RE WANT A NICE MEAL AND SOME

DELIVERED IS BETTER THAN GOING SO IT JUST SEEMS LIKE IT NECESSARILY TURNING IT INTO DRINK ALL THE TIME AT HOME OR I AM REALLY MORE INTERESTED BECAUSE WE CREATED A SYSTEM THAT WHO ALREADY HAD WHILE WHO WANTED TO OPEN UP, RESTAURANT, THAT KIND OF IF YOU WANT, LET'S SAY, AN PEOPLE FROM NETFLIX ARE GOING AND DINNER AND WALK AROUND, IT EXPAND THE TIDE FOR EVERYBODY. HOLDERS MIGHT WANT TO THINK LIKE WHEN DINNER GUESTS IS I THINK THIS IS AN OPPORTUNITY

EVERYONE BENEFITS. SOMETHING TO HELP THE PEOPLE LICENSES BUT YOU'RE ALSO GOING YOUNG ENTREPRENEURS SO THAT WHO ARE BUYING LIQUOR LICENSES PEOPLE WHO HAD THEM FOR 50 >> Gene: WHICH IS THE IT WOULD SHOCK MOST OUT OF STATE THAT OWN NEW BIG CONGLOMERATES. IT IS NOT WORKABLE. BEING ABLE TO LAY DOWN THREE AS OPPOSED TO THE FOLKS THAT THERE IS IDEAS OUT THERE TO REALLY BE DONE WITHOUT A FULL, FINANCIALLY, FOR PEOPLE THAT IS A TAX ABATEMENT GOING TO THERE IS ALL KINDS OF IDEAS ABOUT SOMETHING THEY PAID A GOING TO ALMOST ZERO OR 3,000 >> Laura: I THINK IT IS

TO THINK ABOUT PEOPLE WHO LICENSE AS A PIECE OF PROPERTY ALSO HAD A LOT OF USE OUT OF SO, I KNOW, THERE ARE ALSO HOLD MULTIPLE LICENSES AND SOMETHING AND THEN THEY OTHER LIQUOR LICENSE TO THAT HAPPENS A LOT. MARKET THAT HAS BEEN THERE IS VALUE IN THE USE OF TO BE SOME CONSIDERATION FOR WHAT HAS BEEN THE USE OF IT, RETAIN IT, BUT IT ISN'T JUST A LIKE WE ARE NOT TALKING ABOUT VALUE NECESSARILY LIKE THE THE VALUE IS IN, YES, THE IF YOU HAVE A LIQUOR LICENSE IT, THE FACT THAT YOU HOLD ON

IT IS YOUR SOMEBODY ELSE OR USE IT TO OPEN SOMEHOW THERE NEEDS TO BE OF ALL OF THOSE FACTORS LEGISLATING SOMETHING BECAUSE THEN YOU'RE BOUND BY I FAVOR THE BROAD STROKES OF THEN EMPOWERING A STATE AGENCY YOU HAVE A LOT MORE TIME THE COMMUNITY AND BUSINESSES AND >> Gene: THANK YOU FOR GETTING WE CAN'T GET OUT OF THIS IF WE THE IDEA OF HOLDING HARMLESS OR KEEPING PEOPLE FROM HARMING HOW DOES THAT ARGUMENT FIT IDEA OF HOME >> Merritt: TO LAURA'S POINT GET A PERFECT BILL IN 60 DAYS. GO TO LICENSING AND REGULATION

YOU KNOW, WE HAVE A SYSTEM IN HAVE TRAINING THAT SERVERS I DO THINK DELIVERY ASPECTS FIRST ALL YOU KNOW, YOUR THROUGH TRAINING FOR OF AN ENTITY THAT IS SERVING YOU WOULD HAVE TO GO TO IT MIGHT BE MORE EXPENSIVE. I WOULD ASSUME, TO HAVE LIQUOR EXPENSIVE THAN GOING TO TOTAL THAT PREMIUM ON THAT WOULD FOLD IN ALL OF >> Gene: THAT IS A GOOD

I AM ALSO CURIOUS WHAT IS DECIDES, MEANING A DELIVERY PRIVATE PROPERTY STANDING ON THEY ARE TOO DRUNK TO ACCEPT I DON'T KNOW. WE'LL SEE WHAT THE COURTROOMS WE ARE OUT OF TIME ON THIS. THESE BILLS WORK THEIR WAY OUR LAND IS NEXT. WE ALL HAVE A CONNECTION TO THE BUT, WHAT DO WE CALL THOSE WHOSE NAMES ARE OR THE VALID ONES. IN THIS CORRESPONDENT LAURA OF ACOMA, THERESA PASQUAL, AND RECONCILING WITH THE PAST AND RACIAL SLURS SO WE TALKED WITH REPRESENTATIVE HAALAND IN LATE DECEMBER, HEAD UP THE DEPARTMENT OF THERE IS A LOT TO COVER AND

INTERVIEW AT OUR LAND PAGE ON >> Laura: SNAP OPEN A MAP THOSE WORDS, THE PLACE NAMES ON THEY ARE DECIDED BY THE THE FEDERAL A CENTURY AGO TO STANDARDIZED THE UNITED STATES, SO WE ALL BUT THE WORLD FROM WHAT YOU FIND JUST THINK OF HOW YOU DESCRIBE AT THE MALPAIS AND THE MEET ME WHERE THE PORCUPINES LET'S HIKE THE TRAIL WHERE YOU HERE IN NEW MEXICO AND ACROSS PEOPLE HAVE MOVED ACROSS THIS AND NAMING A PLACE DIDN'T MEAN THERESA PASQUAL WITH THE PUEBLO >> Pasqual: OUR TRADITION LIES

IN CONNECTING THOSE VALUES, CORE VALUES OF WHO WE ARE THAT THAT ARE ASSOCIATED WITH TRANSFERRING OUR HOPES, OUR THAT PLACE BY GIVING THAT SAME SO, AS OUR PEOPLE MOVED ON TIME, THEN IT ALSO BECAME THEY MOVE THROUGH THEIR SOUTHWEST CONTINUED TO NOT BUT ALSO KEEP WITH THEM THOSE PLACE, THAT CREATOR IMBUED WITH WITH US AS PART OF OUR

THOSE NAMES FORWARD WITH US AS >> Laura: CARRYING NAMES FORWARD A SIGN OF CONNECTION. A WAY TO GUIDE PEOPLE FROM >> Pasqual: THIS CONNECTION BUT IT IS ALSO COMPLEX BECAUSE PHYSICAL LANDSCAPE THAT EVERYTHING THAT IS ASSOCIATED >> Laura: MORE THAN A DECADE AGO TRIBES CAME TOGETHER TO PROTECT WEST OF ALBUQUERQUE EACH TRIBE HAS THEIR OWN THEIR OWN STORIES, THEIR OWN >>Pasqual: I HAD ONE ELDER TO THE U.S. FOREST MOUNTAIN IN A SENSE WAS ALMOST

SPREAD OUT FROM THE TOP, THAT OF THE MOUNTAIN WHICH MANY MOUNTAIN WAS LITERALLY JUST PERSPECTIVE IT ALSO VALLEYS AND THE VALLEY FLOOR BE AS FAR AS THE EYE COULD WHEN YOU ARE THINKING FROM A >>Laura: THAT MEANS NOT AS A SINGLE MOUNTAIN AND SEEING THE MESAS ACKNOWLEDGING THE SNOWS THAT GARDENS AND ORCHARDS. PEOPLE DRINK AND USE AS ALL OF THESE THINGS ARE

FORGET THAT TODAY. PLACES WITH NAMES THAT ARE UNWELCOME LIKE THEIR STORIES LAST YEAR, REPRESENTATIVE DEB AL GREEN >> Haaland: THESE PLACES BELONG THEY DON'T JUST BELONG TO ONE GROUP OF PEOPLE. VISITORS TO OUR PUBLIC LANDS DESERVE TO FEEL WELCOME AND THOSE PLACES. PLACE NAMES, THOSE ARE SORT OF >>Laura: HAALAND AND GREEN FEEL IF PASSED, THIS BILL WOULD FROM ALL DIFFERENT RECOMMENDATIONS TO THE BOARD CHANGES THAT ARE RESPECTFUL OF

>> Haaland: HOW SOME OF OUR BACK TO THEIR ORIGINAL NATIVE I THINK IT MATTERS TO A ARE CALLED. EACH COMMUNITY >>Laura: A REPORT LAST YEAR FEDERALLY RECOGNIZED >>Haaland: SOME OF THOSE IN SOME LANDMARKS THAT ARE IN THE BILL, SQUAW PEAK, THOSE ARE PLACES RELEVANCE ESSENTIALLY TO MAYBE THOSE BRING UP A RACIST PAST. >> Laura: LIKE MT. TAYLOR THE UNITED STATES, PLENTY OF WHO NEVER LOVED OR RESPECTED >> Haaland: WHEN I WHO USED TO SAY, YOU CAN TELL

BY WHO THEIR WHO ARE OUR HEROS, RIGHT? UP FOR UNDER-REPRESENTED ARE THEY FOLKS WHO STOOD UP AND >> Laura: PASQUAL EXPLAINS THAT WE CREATE OUR OWN STORIES AND AND THOSE ARE LAYERS ON THE STORIES THAT CAME >>Pasqual: WHEN WE GO OUT IN RESPONSIBILITY TO KNOW MORE, SURROUND US SO THAT WE CAN CONSERVE THEM AND SO THAT WE OTHERS AND SAY, YOU KNOW, HIKED, YOU KNOW, ON SUCH AND STORY. AND I THINK YOU SO WE PASS THOSE >>Laura: FOR OUR LAND AND NEW

I AM LAURA PASKUS. >> Gene: LIFE-LONG REPUBLICAN PHELPS ANDERSON IS STILL ONE VOTING TO REPEAL AN CRIMINALIZES ABORTION REPUBLICAN COLLEAGUES AND WAS TIME FOR HIM TO LEAVE. CHANGED HIS VOTER REGISTRATION INDEPENDENT. REPUBLICANS. IF THE SUPREME COURT OVERTURNS REPRODUCTIVE RIGHTS ADVOCATES WITH THE LATEST ITERATION OF MR. ANDERSON HAS BEEN QUIET REPEAL THE LAW. VOTE THE LAST TIME THIS BILL WHAT DO YOU MAKE OF THIS >> Inez: I WISH HE WOULD TELL I AM WONDERING IF HE REALIZED

ROE V. WADE WILL BE OVERTURNED BECAUSE IT WAS REAL HE CHANGED SOMEONE IN HIS FAMILY WHO TO HAVE CHOICES OVER THEIR OWN I JUST WOULD JUST LOVE TO HEAR I REMEMBER WHEN I WAS YOUNG REPUBLICANS AND ANTI-ABORTION PARTIES SEEMED TO HAVE ROOM EDGES EVEN IF THEY DID HAVE A ARE AGAINST ABORTION OR FOR AND I THINK THAT BIG TENTS CAN ROOM FOR DIFFERING VIEWS, BETTER POLICY. PARTIES ARE SO LIMITING TO BELIEVE. TO VOTE FOR DEMOCRATIC HE'S PROBABLY NOT GOING TO BE

GUN -- PRO GUN THINGS. SO, VOTE EXCEPT MAYBE THIS ONE WANT TO BE MORE WELCOMING TO >> Gene: PICK UP ON THAT THAT. IS THERE AN OPPORTUNITY HERE REPUBLICAN PARTY HERE IN NEW >> Merritt: CERTAINLY, I THE REPUBLICAN IS PRETTY -- THEY HAVE FEWER SEATS ALMOST THERE IS REALLY NOT A LOT OF COALITIONS ACROSS TO BE >> Gene: DOES THE PARTY IN >> Merritt: NO.

I DON'T THINK SO. REPRESENTATIVE ANDERSON FOR YOU KNOW, I THINK IT IS PRETTY THE STATE REPUBLICAN PARTY OR YOU KNOW, YOU CAN ASSUME HE VOTED AS HE DID. ANDY NUNEZ HAD DONE THIS IN THE AND, YOU KNOW, I JUST WANT TO DISAGREE WITH INEZ. FOR THE SECOND TIME IT HAS THIS CHANGES THE STATE OF I THINK THIS IS POLITICAL POLITICAL GRENADE THROWN. I HAVE A DECADE'S LONG I THINK DEMOCRATS HAVE PICKED UP

I THINK THEY ARE WEAPONIZING IT TO WEED OUT MODERATES OR I THINK IT DOESN'T IT DID NOTHING IN 30-DAY I THINK IT IS MAKING PEOPLE MAD BUT I DON'T THINK THIS BILL, IS GOING TO CHANGE ACCESS >> Gene: LAURA, MAY SEEM LIKE BUT DON'T DEMOCRATS DO THE SAME ISN'T THERE A LITMUS EVEN THIS BILL HAS BEEN A LITMUS AND THEIR LEVEL OF IS THIS THE SAME THING >> Laura: WE ABSOLUTELY DO THAT AND WE SEE ACROSS THE STATE, AT THE LAST ELECTION AND THOSE PRIMARY AND THEN LOST THEIR FLIPPED THEN TO REPUBLICAN, WE THING WHERE THERE IS MORE OF A

TO BECOME, I THINK, ON THE ONE MORE CONSERVATIVE, OF COURSE, THAT HAPPENING ACROSS THE BUT YOU SEE THE SAME THING ON YOU SEE THIS PROGRESSIVE PUSH AREAS THAT MIGHT BE MORE VOTERS, GOING INTO RURAL AREAS DEMOCRATS LIKE JOHN ARTHUR AND I KNOW THAT DISTRICT IN HOME DISTRICT BUT JOHN ARTHUR DEMOCRAT. FISCAL RESPONSIBILITY, WAS THEN WHEN HE WAS TAKEN OUT BY IT FLIPPED REPUBLICAN, AND I FLIPS BACK, TO BE HONEST, KNOW, THERE IS JUST DIFFERENT DEMOCRAT ACROSS THE STATE. POINT, WE DO NEED TO FIGURE

IN GENERAL OR WAS IT INEZ, I BUT WE NEED TO BE MORE OTHERWISE WE END UP WITH THIS GOING TO BE EXPECTED TO FOLLOW AND WE HAVE TO FIGURE OUT HOW REFLECT THEIR DISTRICTS AND THAT IS IMPOSED UPON THEM. IS REALLY IMPORTANT FOR NEW RURAL SPLIT, AND I THINK THAT RURAL VERSUS URBAN AND HOW >> Gene: GOOD POINTS. INTERESTING POINT. YOU THINK ABOUT IT. CHAVEZ, LEA AND ROOSEVELT FIRST GOT IN IN 2018, TWO-YEAR HE WAS IN THE HOUSE FROM '77 IS THERE A DANGER OF THIS SEAT DOES THIS UPSET ANYTHING

>> Inez: I WOULDN'T THINK SO. REPUBLICAN SEAT NO MATTER WHO THAT VOTERS PUNISH YOU IF YOU BECAUSE PART OF IT IS ALSO BEING ABLE TO KEEP YOUR IF THE GOVERNOR RUNS IN 2018 ABORTION BAN WHICH WILL CHANGE IF THE SUPREME COURT RULES MERRITT IS ABSOLUTELY RIGHT, THIS IS GETTING READY FOR WHAT BECAUSE SHOULD ROE V. WADE BE COURT, THERE IS A DECENT ABORTION WOULDN'T BE ABLE TO THAT IT WOULD CRIMINALIZE AS A PARTY, THIS IS OUR SEVEN DEMOCRATS IN THE SENATE GOING TO LET YOU GET TO THAT, BIT THE VOTER'S RIGHT TO SAY,

DEMOCRATS WHO WILL VOTE FOR IT IS SAME WITH MR. ANDERSON. HIS VOTERS WOULD GO AHEAD AND ANYWAY OR WE DON'T SUPPORT BUT I THINK, IN GENERAL, IT LITTLE MORE ROOM FOR SOME JUST ON ABORTION. AND HOW SOME PEOPLE WERE MORE PEOPLE WERE MORE CONCERNED YOU HAVE TO CONSIDER HOW BIG A >> Gene: I SEE YOU IN IT IS VOTERS THAT WILL DECIDE >> Merritt: ABSOLUTELY AND PARTICULAR, IS WEAPONIZED. COURT HAS BEEN MAJORITY THAN UNDER THE CURRENT OVERTURNED ROW V WADE AND IT IS NOT THEIR PRACTICE TO

THAT IS WHY I SAY I DON'T I JUST WANTED TO PUT THAT OUT. DECIDE AND THE IMPRESSION I MAJORITY OF AMERICANS AND THE ABORTION TO BE LEGAL. THERE ARE SOME PROCEDURES THAT AMERICANS AREN'T AS AND ON THE ABORTION DEBATE IT THAT IS WHERE PEOPLE GET HATE SEEING ISSUES LIKE THIS WEAPONIZED. THE BILL IN REPEALING AN UNENFORCEABLE LAW THEIR MIND OVER IT. LAURA'S AND INEZ'S POINT, EVERYBODY TO HAVE AN OPINION

ALSO BE ABLE TO HAVE AN >> Gene: GOOD PLACE TO END. THAT WAS WELL DONE. HAVE TO SWITCH GEARS WITH BOTH ABOUT REDISTRICTING. WILL GET OFFICIAL CENSUS DATA REDRAWING THE POLITICAL CONGRESSIONAL SEATS AND THE YOU HAVE SEEN US PROFILE NEW REDISTRICTING PROCESS ON THE LAST TWO TIMES IT HAPPENED, THE FOLKS AT NEW MEXICO FIRST PROCESS AND THEIR NONPARTISAN COMMISSION TO DO THE FORM OF LEGISLATION. TWO MEMBERS OF THE PANEL, EDWARD CHAVEZ, AND GEOGRAPHER, >>Gwyneth: JUSTICE CHAVEZ AND >>Chavez: THANK YOU FOR HAVING

>>Page: THANK YOU FOR HAVING >>Gwyneth: JUSTICE CHAVEZ, YOU CO-CHAIRED THE TASK FORCE A BIPARTISAN GROUP WORKING ON WAS THERE A CONSENSUS AMONG REDISTRICTING NOW IS, TO PUT >> Chavez: YES. CONSENSUS OF ANYTHING IT IS SOMETHING THAT WOULD FIX THE SIMPLY HASN'T WORKED. COURTS DREW THE MAPS AT TAXPAYER EXPENSE. A LOT OF TALENTED PEOPLE THAT ONE OF THEM WHICH IS A >> Gwyneth: I WANT TO ASK TO THAT, DR. PAGE, YOU HAD A TELL ME ABOUT SOME OF THE ONES THINK WOULD BE EFFECTIVE IF

>> Page: THANK YOU. WITH A BACKGROUND IN WERE HOW IS THE FINAL MAP REPRESENTING THE COMMUNITIES THROUGHOUT THE STATE. SO, MY HOW ARE YOU GOING TO GET THE INFORMATION IN THE CENSUS AND US TO DRAW DISTRICTS THAT WERE LIVING THROUGHOUT DIFFERENT SO THAT WAS MY PRIMARY SURE THAT THE COMMUNITIES OF DEFINED BY CULTURE, LANGUAGE, AREA WAS REPRESENTED BECAUSE ZONE, WAS PRIMARY REASONS FOR I ALSO REPRESENTED THE

NATIONAL ASSOCIATION FOR THE AND SO MY INTEREST THERE WAS IN OF COLOR WERE REPRESENTED I WANTED TO ASK YOU THAT, FOR PEOPLE WHO HAVE BEEN REDISTRICTING THE PAST FEW BEEN USED THROUGH HISTORY TO AND EVEN HERE IN NEW MEXICO INTENTIONALLY OR FOR HAVING VOTING POWER OF SPECIFICALLY HISPANIC VOTERS. WE CAN DO TO ENSURE THAT ALL >> Page: WELL, I THINK ONE OF TASK FORCE WAS TO INCLUDE

COMMUNITIES PRIMARILY THE I THINK YOU WOULD AGREE, JUSTICE UNDERSTOOD THE INTERESTS AND THE CONCERNS THEY HAVE HAD IF YOU WILL, OR UNDER >> Gwyneth: JUSTICE WHO ARE ON YOUR TASK SPONSORING BILLS IN THE WOULD TAKE THE REDISTRICTING AND GIVE IT TO A COMMISSION. YEARS WE HAVE SEEN PROPOSALS CONSTITUTIONAL AMENDMENT. >> Chavez: FOR ONE THING THIS COMMISSION SO THE LEGISLATURE THEY WILL HAVE APPOINTING

SELECT FROM THREE TO FIVE MAPS THE CONGRESSIONAL SEATS, STATE PUBLIC EDUCATION COMMISSION. IT DOESN'T MEAN IN THE FUTURE COMMISSION THAT ACTS THE LEGISLATURE BUT THAT WE CAN'T DO THAT IN TIME >> Gwyneth: WHAT THIS WOULD DO IS AN ADVISORY BOARD WOULD JUST HAVING LAWMAKERS ALL OVER THEY WANT TO DRAW AND THEN THE ADVISORY BOARD WOULD THESE ARE YOUR FOUR OPTIONS, WHAT IF THEY CAN'T DECIDE? >> Chavez: WE HAVE A PROVISION THAT SAYS IF THEY CANNOT DECIDE THE COMMISSION WILL HAVE

THE COMMISSION BELIEVED MOST FEDERAL LAW, THE VOTING RIGHTS INTEREST, ET CETERA. SUBMITTED TO THE GOVERNOR FOR SAFE APPROACH BECAUSE, OF DOLLARS ARE SPENT ON BECAUSE MAPS WERE NOT DRAWN, >> Gwyneth: DR. PAGE, WAS TASK FORCE, DID IT FEEL VERY FEEL LIKE EVERYONE WAS KIND OF >> Page: NO PUN INTENDED THERE. I THOUGHT EVERYONE CAME WITH BEING TRANSPARENT AT LEAST IN TRANSPARENCY THAT WE WERE

VOICES OF NEW MEXICO RESIDENTS OF COMING UP WITH THE MAPS AS SO I DIDN'T SENSE THAT THERE WERE FOR MORE LEGISLATIVE REPRESENTATION FROM THE THROUGHOUT NEW MEXICO. GOAL THAT WE ALL HAD IN TERMS HOW INDIVIDUALS WOULD BE EXPRESSING THEIR PREFERENCE FOR >> Gwyneth: JUSTICE CHAVEZ, THERE IS AN UNUSUAL KIND OF THAT GIVES A LITTLE BIT OF

HOW DOES THAT WORK? >> Chavez: WHAT WE DID WAS YOU WITHIN THE CALENDAR YEAR CENSUS COMES OUT, AND THAT BECAUSE OF THE APPEAL TAKES ADOPTS A PLAN OR PLANS. WAS ACTUALLY TRY TO USE THE JURISDICTION TO TAKE A LOOK AT IF SOMEBODY APPEALS ONE OR PROPOSED. DIRECTLY TO THE SUPREME COURT HELD BETWEEN THE PUBLIC ONLY ANNUL OR AFFIRM THE MAP. AND THEN THEY WOULD SEND IT BUT KEEP IN MIND THAT THREE TO RECOMMENDED TO THE

SO IF ONLY ONE MAP IS APPEALED ANNULS THAT MAP, THERE IS NOT APPEALED. SO WE HAVE ACTUALLY ADDED THE TO THE LEGISLATURE AND THAT IS IF IT DOESN'T HAPPEN, THE POWER TO STAY THE HAS BEEN APPEALED AND THAT BUT I THINK THE MOST AND THE REDISTRICTING COMMISSION IS IT, THIS IS ABOUT GIVING VOTERS TO CHOOSE SOMEBODY WHO WILL BEST IT IS THEM, THE VOTERS, WHO TO ACTIVELY PARTICIPATE AND THIS ACT ACTUALLY DOES IT REQUIRES A MINIMUM OF 12 FIRST SET IS TO IDENTIFY

MINORITY GROUPS THAT HAVE ALWAYS CAN OUTVOTE THEM. REDISTRICTING PRINCIPLES. TOGETHER AND YOU LEARN INFORMATION AND THEN YOU GO DRAW YOU CATALOG THE INFORMATION AND IT IS A RECORD SO THAT THE PUBLIC HAS ACCESS TOO. AND THEN AND YOU HOLD HEARINGS YOU LEARN THERE TO EITHER DRAWN AND THEN GO TO YET ANOTHER SO THE PUBLIC KNOWS EXACTLY WHAT YOU HAVE TO EVALUATE THE MAPS UNDER THE REDISTRICTING ACT AND EXACTLY WHAT YOU HAVE DONE AND >> Gwyneth: WHAT YOU'RE SAYING

DOESN'T SOUND SHOCKING BUT IT IT HAS WORKED IN THE PAST, THIS MOSTLY HAPPENS COMPLETELY THAT IS THE WAY IT HAS BEEN THE DAY, DR. PAGE, THESE MAPS I MEAN, A COMPUTER CAN JUST ISN'T THAT RIGHT? >> Page: THAT IS TRUE AND WE DO AND WE WERE ON THE TASK EXPERIENCE THE USE OF SOME OF MEET THE ISSUES OF OUR OTHER CRITERIA THAT WE WANT TO FAIR DISTRICTS. THINK THE TASK FORCE REALLY SURE THAT WE HAD MAXIMUM

UP WITH AN UNDERSTANDING OF ALSO IN HOW THOSE MAPS COULD COMMUNITIES OF INTEREST SO, THE SOFTWARE IS OUT THERE. THAT WE KNOW THAT WE CAN GET COME UP WITH MAPS THAT REPRESENT >> Gwyneth: SO, LET ME ASK BOTH GOOD GOVERNMENT GROUPS HAVE TIME TO TAKE THIS POWER AWAY IT IN THE HANDS OF SOME OTHER LESS SELF-INTERESTED PARTY. WHY HAS A BETTER CHANCE THIS YEAR >> Chavez: I CAN'T TELL YOU

THAT WE HAVE A BETTER CHANCE THIS ACT IS DRAWN, IT NOT ONLY BENEFITS THE LEGISLATURE, PAST HAS GONE OUT, MET WITH THE STATE, BUT THEN THEY GET THEM IS REALLY NOT SYNTHESIZED AND SO THEY SORT OF IGNORE IT. COMMISSION WOULD BE REQUIRED, HEARINGS, TO SUMMARIZE THE MAINTAIN IT AND MAKE IT THE LEGISLATURE. ARE DRAWN, THE COMMISSION HAS WRITING, SUMMARIZE THE SUMMARIZE WHY IT IS KEEPING TO INTEREST, WHY THE MAP DOES NOT WHY THEY ARE COMPACT, SO, EVERYTHING IS GOING TO BE

AND, OF COURSE, THEY CAN STILL PEOPLE CAN SHOW UP AND TESTIFY THE FIVE MAPS OR OTHER MAPS, SO THEY ARE GOING TO BE BETTER AND, FRANKLY, YOU KNOW, THEY INTO THE DISTRICT OR OUT OF INTEREST NOW EXIST IN THEIR IT IS IMPORTANT FOR THEM TO >> Gwyneth: FOR THE FIRST TIME CONTROL BOTH THE LEGISLATURE PATH IS VERY CLEAR FOR THEM TO WHY SHOULD DEMOCRATS GIVE UP >> Chavez: I WOULD SAY TO AVOID THAT IS THE PRIMARY REASON. THINK OF YOURSELF AS SOMEBODY SOMEBODY WHO IS A PUBLIC

YOU SERVE THE PUBLIC AND YOU BY MAKING SURE ALL PEOPLE HAVE ELECT SOMEONE OF THEIR CHOICE. GOING FOR US AND A LOVE FOR DEMOCRACY IS WHAT SHOULD GUIDE >> Page: AND A COMMITMENT TO ACCESS TO VOTING. INTERESTING QUESTION AND I >> Gwyneth: JUSTICE CHAVEZ, DR. THANK YOU SO MUCH >> Chavez: THANK YOU. >> Gene: OKAY, WE HAVE HAD LAURA SANCHEZ, >> Laura: I REALLY I THINK THE NEED TO PAY ATTENTION TO AND

NEED TO PAY ATTENTION TO. TAXPAYER MONEY IN THE PAST IN THE SYSTEM THROUGH THE COURTS ESSENTIALLY DECIDE THE MAPS THAT COME OUT END UP THE OTHER, WITH SO MUCH AGREE TO ANYTHING REASONABLE, COME IN AND MAKE A DECISION. I THINK THIS IS AN IMPORTANT CONSIDERED AND HOPEFULLY IT BILL THAT GETS PASSED THROUGH >> Gene: MERRITT, YOU'RE ON I AM GRATEFUL THAT YOU ARE, YOUR BRAIN POWER IN THIS WE HAVE THE COMMISSION, TWO NONPARTISAN PEOPLE CHOSEN BY SUPREME COURT JUSTICE. IS >> Merritt: ABSOLUTELY. AND THE DEMOCRATS SHOULD BE

MAJORITY -- THEY BE CHOSEN BY REPUBLICANS BE CHOSEN BY THEIR THE THIRD PARTY, DECLINE TO CHOSEN BY THE ETHICS SUPREME COURT JUSTICE. I THINK, FIRE POWER AND YOU OR A FORMER ELECTED OFFICIAL. I REALLY LIKE THAT. >> Laura: THAT TAKES YOU OUT OF AND ME I WAS IN FOR LIKE >> Gene: WHICH IS ENOUGH, >> Laura: YES. REALLY LIKE IS, I THINK IT IS IS SHOULD DESPITE ALL THE SHOULD ANY OF THE MAPS BE

FEES SHALL BE AWARDED AS A HA, HA. >> Gene: THAT IS INTERESTING. HAVE TO SEE HOW THAT PLAYS >> Laura: THAT TAKES OUT THE TAKE ON THESE CASES. CLAUSE. WILLING TO TAKE THIS ON AND ABLE TO RECOVER FEES, IT IN TERMS OF BEING ABLE TO PAY >> Gene: THAT IS FASCINATING. POWERFUL DEMOCRAT LIKE BRIAN THIS LEVERAGE. PUT THESE ARE POLITICIANS. THIS IS >> Inez: THEY MAY NOT. WE'LL SEE HOW THEY GO. TO DO THE RIGHT THING. FOR POWER, THEY HAVE TO ARE IN THE MAJORITY NOW, SOME MINORITY.

ALLOWS POLITICIANS TO STOP VOTERS PICK THEIR LEADERS, OFF OVER THE NEXT 20, 30, 40 AND WE HAVE BECOME SO GERRYMANDERING AND REDISTRICTING THE SMALLER POPULATIONS HAVE AND WE HAVE GOT TO FIX IT. SO EVEN IF YOU'RE GIVING UP IT IS GOING TO BE BETTER FOR LEADERS LIKE SPEAKER EGOLF AND WE HAVE TO DO WHAT IS BEST FOR >> Gene: MERRITT, IT HAS TO BE THOUGH, THIS IS THE FIRST TIME DEMOCRATS IN THE GOVERNORSHIP, DOES THIS CHANGE OR DOES THAT CHANGE >> Merritt: THAT IS THE WHY WOULD THEY WANT TO? THAT IS ONE THING THAT STRUCK FORCE, WE HAD BOTH DEMOCRATIC

SITING ON THE TASK FORCE. UNANIMOUSLY THROUGH THE FIRST IT HAS GOT APPEARS SUPPORT OF AND THE SENATE IS SPONSORED BY I SAT IN ON AN INTERVIEW WITH AND SENATOR ORTIZ Y PINO SAID, BECAUSE IN 2031 WE DON'T KNOW HOUSES AND GOVERNORSHIP. SO, WHY NOT DO THIS FOR THE >> Gene: ISN'T THIS THE GAME LET ME GO TO YOU ON THAT. KNOW, FOLKS -- PEOPLE TALK THE TIME, BUT THE SIMPLE FACT YOU ALWAYS WANT TO HAVE AN

YOU DON'T CARE WHICH PARTY YOU CAN WE SIT DOWN AND DO THIS >> Laura: THIS IS THE WAY IT NOT THE COMMISSION, BUT WHAT CURRENTLY IT IS DONE IS THE I DON'T THINK THAT IS THE BEST IF YOU LOOK AT OTHER STATES, CONSIDER OTHER COMMUNITIES IN TALKED ABOUT IN THE INTERVIEW, THAT IS A HUGE ISSUE AROUND THERE IS A LOT OF GAMES YOU AN EXAMPLE. HOUSE OR THE OTHER, I AM NOT JUST SAY IF THERE IS AN OPEN PERCEIVES THEY MAY WANT TO RUN THE BOUNDARIES, THEY'LL DO SEAT SO NOW THEY ARE ABLE TO OTHER HOUSE WITHOUT TOO MUCH, INCUMBENT RUNNING BUT IT IS A

JUST DRAWN YOURSELF INTO THAT THAT HAS HAPPENED MULTIPLE THAT MEANS A PERSON WHO DIDN'T PREVIOUSLY, HAD NO TIES TO SUDDENLY WAS ABLE TO INSERT WHO MAY HAVE WANTED TO RUN OR BEEN COMMUNITY LEADERS THERE, THEY ARE NOW FACING SOMEBODY WHO ALREADY HAS A WAR THIS NEW RACE. WHERE IT IS GOING TO TAKE A KNOW, CYNICS WILL SAY DOESN'T IT IS ALSO NOT THE MOST OFFICIAL. FALL ON YOUR FACE A LOT. EVERYTHING, YOU'RE NOT GETTING IT IS NOT A SUPER GLAMOROUS THINK THERE IS A LOT OF WITH IT. ENOUGH TO REALIZE LONG-TERM AND HOW DO YOU WANT NEW MEXICO DO WE WANT NEW VOICES? DO WE

THE COMMUNITY? HAVE BEEN IN POWER TO REMAIN ANY NEW VOICES OR, YOU THIS IMPACTS WOMEN, PEOPLE OF PEOPLE IN THE MINORITIES AND IT IS ALL ABOUT THINKING IN TERMS OF >> Gene: GREAT WAY TO FINISH. AGAIN TO ALL OF YOU. I'M BACK IN PROBABLY BECAUSE THE SUPER BOWL IS LESS THAN A WEEK PAST, IN CONCERNING THE NEW NUMBERS STATE AND WITH IT YELLOWING ACROSS THE STATE. AFTER A YEAR PLUS SLOG WITH DIRECTION AND EVEN BETTER, WORKFORCE. AS THE CLICHE GOES, ARE WON IN OTHER CONTESTS YOU CAN MOVE

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