APS School Matters; APS Standards

SRT Captions File Generated by MXFplus >> Dr. Allison: DON'T TOUCH ALBUQUERQUE PUBLIC SCHOOLS, NEXT. >> Dr. Allison: WELCOME TO SCHOOL MATTERS. I'M BRAD REALLY HAVE THE NEED TO UNDERSTAND WHAT'S REALLY THE WORK THAT WE DO, YOU'RE STANDARDS THAT REALLY DEFINE

DISTRICT IS. NOT THE SEXEST TOPIC, NOT THE ONE THAT WILL YOU CARE ABOUT EDUCATION AND ABOUT TO INTRODUCE OUR CRAVEN, WELCOME, JEAN, JEAN IS THE DIRECTOR OF THE ALBUQUERQUE TEACHERS PARDO IS A TEACHER AT VIEW YEAH VISTA. WHERE IS THAT? >> Pardo: IN THE SOUTH VALLEY IS REALLY BAD? WONDERFUL. IT'S A REALLY STRONG SENSE OF COMMUNITY. RESOURCE TEACHERS, SO I WORK CLASSROOMS, I SOMETIMES GET RESOURCE OF TEACHER GOES

>> Pardo: I HELP TEACHERS PAST YEAR, WE WORKED A LOT AND DID LOTS OF EAR STAFF MALTH STANDARDS? >> Dr. Allison: THAT'S GOOD. ELLEN, PRESIDENT OF THE STANDARDS? APS TO MAKE SURE THAT AS THEY DEVELOPED DOCUMENTS AND AND SO ONE OF THE THINGS DIVERSE, ARTICULATE TEACHERS WHO WERE GROUNDED IN THE CREATED SEPARATE ANY THE

ACTUAL WORK OF TEACHING AND JUST IMPOSE THESE ON BUT IF IT DOESN'T MAKE SENSE AND IF IT IS NOT SOMETHING SUPPORT THE CLASSROOM AND USE IT AS A THOUGHTFUL DOCUMENT WON'T DO ANYTHING IT'S A WASTE OF TIME. CHARGE OF THIS WHOLE THING, ABOUT STANDARDS ALREADY. A >> Craven: FOR US, WE ARE LANGUAGE ARTS AND MATH. OUR STANDARDS WERE DEVELOPED CUSTOM EYES THOSE, GIVE THEM

MAKE THEM SOMETHING THAT COULD PROUDLY IMPLEMENT. >> Dr. Allison: PROUDLY I AM STANDARD AND YOU'RE CALLING 277-5555 OR ANY GOING BACK TO STANDARDS, OF THING AT THAT WE HAVE ABANDONED? MONTH, BECAUSE WE BEGAN -- I THINK THE WHOLE IDEA OF STANDARDS REALLY BEGAN IN YOU'LL REMEMBER THAT WAS THE IS HE IN THE SCHOOLS, AND ESSENTIALLY WHAT THEY MEANT

CHANGING, AND SCHOOLS NEEDED BEGAN -- THAT BEGAN A RESULTED IN SOME NATIONAL STATE STANDARDS, AND IN MANY PLACES, DISTRICTS HAVE >> Dr. Allison: WHY DID IT GET STANDARDS AT APS? >> Craven: STANDARDS ARE NOT THEY TEND TO HAVE PEOPLE MEAN BY STANDARDS IS STANDARDIZATION. THAT EVERY TO CHILDREN. SO, IT CARRIES AS THOUGH WE MEANT SAMENESS IN THE WAY WE TEACH. WE

DON'T MEAN SAMENESS IN THE WAY WE TEACH. WE MEAN THAT AND A THIRD CHANCE, AT LEARNING WHAT THEY NEED TO NEW MEXICO HAS A TENDENCY TO WATCH WHAT HAPPENS ELSE SOME OTHER PEOPLE, MAYBE EVEN MAKE A FEW MISTAKES AND THERE. THEY ARE EXPENSIVE TO DEVELOP, SO YOU HAVE TO A LEGISLATURE HAS TO REACH STANDARDS. AND I SENSE AMONG PARENTS THAT PARTNERS IN EDUCATION, IN THE CHILDREN'S EDUCATION. >> Craven: IT'S NOT MUCH FUN

>> Dr. Allison: WE HAVE A FOR THE SUPERINTENDENT. I'M MOVED DOWN HERE FOR TWO AND A HALF YEARS. I HAVE CHILDREN IN MIDDLE SCHOOL. THEY HAVE TUTORING IN ENGLISH. HOW DO YOU WANT TO YOU HAVE A LOT OF FOREIGNERS BEING ABLE TO SPEAK ENGLISH? RIGHT. >> Dr. Allison: THE QUESTIO ENGLISH, BUT HE WANT TO BE SUCCESSFUL IN MATH, FOR THE SAME TIME?

>> Pardo: ACTUALLY, MOST OF DUAL PROGRAM THAT GOES FROM KINDERGARTEN, IF YOU SPEAK AT ANY GRADE, WHEREVER YOU GO GO. TEACHERS FROM 3RD TO 5TH GRADE TEACH LITERACY HALF THE DAY. I MEAN, IN KINDERGARTEN TO 5TH GRADE. >> Dr. Allison: THAT'S >> Pardo: THERE IS, BECAUSE BUT WHEN CHILDREN ARE KINDERGARTEN, YOU HAVE TO DON'T SPEAK ENGLISH, THEY

CONCEPTS IF THEY DIDN'T IF THE TEACHER IS TEACHING LEARNING MORE OR LESS THE CUP THAN THAT CUP. SO, THEY STRUCTURES. TEACH BOTH SPANISH AND EDGE WHO CAME TO VALLE VISTA? >> Pardo: THAT WOULD BE HAR PROGRAM THAT'S AT THE SCHOOL CHILDREN -- ENGLISH AS A >> Dr. Allison: THAT'S OKAY. ARE IN THE DUAL LANGUAGE WITH THE ENGLISH AS A SECOND

>> Dr. Allison: THIS IS AN THEM ACCOUNTABLE FOR THESE SOLVE THAT PROBLEM, ELLEN? AND A STANDARD BASED SYSTEM, IF IT IS DONE WELL. FIRST OFF, THE WRITTEN DOCUMENT IS NOT JUST A LIST OF DISCREET SKILLS. IT IS ABOUT TAKING SOMEBODY'S CONCEPTUAL DEEP EDGE THAT CONCEPTUAL UNDERSTANDING. IN A STANDARD BASED SYSTEM, THERE ARE CONTENT STANDARDS, WHAT SOMEBODY NEEDS TO LEARN, PERFORMANCE STANDARDS AT IMPORTANT TO UNDERSTAND THAT

NOT EVERY SINGLE CHILD AT EVERY SINGLE AGE IS GOING TO STANDARD THAT'S HELD DIFFERENT RATES AND GIVE THE SYSTEM, AND THE ADULTS CHILD THAT THE CALLER WAS A COMPETENT, QUALIFIED, AND CARING TEACHER TO EVERY TEACHER WILL KNOW HOW TO STRUCTURE THEIR INSTRUCTION CONCEPT, AND LEARNING THE BEDDING THAT IN SOMETHING CLASSROOM PRACTICE. SO, IT UNDERSTAND, AND THEN THEY

THE TEACHER DOESN'T HAVE THE THIS KIND OF SYSTEM, WHAT WE TEACHERS, SO THAT WE A CHILD COMES IN SPEAKING CLASSROOM AND THE SUPPORT NEEDS ALSO. >> BUT IT IS FOR SOMEBODY. LANGUAGE, WE STILL WANT THAT OTHER CHILDREN ARE LEARNING QUESTIONS THAT IF THERE ARE QUESTIONS ABOUT SECOND TEACH 50 DIFFERENT LANGUAGE

ETC.. CALLED CALL CALL SIR, IT'S GOOD TO TALK IT WITH ALBUQUERQUE TECHNICAL ARE ACTUALLY TAKING UP THIS CULTURAL AWARENESS IN THE MONTOYA CAMPUS AT THE THIS CLASS IS, IT'S MINORITY GROUPS, AND WE HAVE BEEN MULTI-CULTURAL SOCIETY HAS LINES OF WHAT YOU GUYS WERE MULTI-LANGUAGES TAUGHT IN

INITIATED IN THE SCHOOL CURRICULUM THAT WOULD GO TO SCHOOL DO LIVE IN A CULTURALLY VIEW DYE VERSE THEY KIND OF NEED THAT TEACHERS COULD INITIATE THA THAT. IMPLICIT IN THE STANDARD, HELD ACCOUNTABLE FOR, HAVE A STRONG SENSE OF QUL TURL DIVERSITY AS PART OF THE WELL. IT'S VIEWED WIDELY, I THINK, IN NEW MEXICO AS AN ASSET, TO HAVE A DIVERSE POPULATION OF STUDENTS IN A

AND FOR THEM TO LIVE IN AN THERE THROUGHOUT ALL THE STANDARDS. IT'S SOMETHING WE HE VEN THROUGH THE STANDARD THE PEOPLE WHO ARE WATCHING KIM ON THE LINE. I'D LIKE TO HEAR THE PANEL'S COMMENTS, SPECIFICALLY ON THE LANGUAGE ON STANDARDS THE CHAMBER OF COMMERCES RECENT REPORT ON EDUCATION >> Dr. Allison: WE WILL GET COMMENTS. I DON'T KNOW IF TO BE HELD ACCOUNTABLE AND GET FEARFUL WHEN THE

CAN'T -- WE CAN'T MEASURE SINGLE MEASURE, BY ONE WAY THAT PEOPLE WHO ARE PUTTING NECESSARILY SPEAK ABOUT A WIDE VARIETY OF METHODS OF ACCOUNTABILITY, AND THAT'S A >> Bernstein: WELL, IN TERMS OF WHAT THE INITIAL REPORT FROM THE CHAMBER SAID ON STANDARDS AND ACCOUNTABILITY I THINK THEY MENTIONED BOTH THEM. SO, I THINK IT IS BE USED WELL BY KNOWLEDGEABLE PEOPLE, OR THESE STANDARDS, I THINK, TOOL FOR A GOOD TEACHER. AND

SO IT'S IMPORTANT TO TALK AND TRACK CHILDREN. BECAUSE CREATING A DISSERVICE TO EDUCATIONAL SYSTEM THAT FRANCHISES SOME. IN TERMS OF ACCOUNTABILITY, TEACHERS ARE FRONT OF THOSE KIDS, AND WE CONSIDER OURSELVES EXTREMELY WELCOMED AS MUCH DONE. AND ONE WAY TO LOOK AT ONE TEST. BUT THE TEST SO, WE NEED MULTIPLE RECIPROCAL ACCOUNTABILITY.

ALBUQUERQUE, FEEL THAT WE ARE ACCOUNTABLE TO THE ATTRACT AND RETAIN THE BEST TEACHERS POSSIBLE. WE NEED TEACHERS HAVE THE ADEQUATE ACCOUNTABILITY FROM MULTIPLE LENSES AND NOT JUST THAT ONE JUST ONE GROUP THAT'S >> Pardo: YES. I DON'T KNOW ELLEN AND JEAN SAID. I KNOW THAT AS A TEACHER, I FEEL PERSONALLY RESPONSIBLE FOR THE TEACHERS WHO ARE GETTING THEM, WHETHER THEY ARE

SO, AND -- AND I DON'T KNOW TEACHERS WHO SAY THEY DON'T FOR WHAT THEIR CHILDREN KNOW OR LEARN, BUT I THINK, WITH PUTTING ACCOUNTABILITY ON NOVA, WHICH IS DESIGNED TO >> Dr. Allison: IT'S A TEST ISOLATED FACTS. AND THAT DOESN'T REALLY CONNECT YOU'RE TEACHING GOALS. AND OF COURSE, SOME FACTS

INDICATION AND DIVISION THE FACTS DON'T TELL YOU, KNOWING THE FACTS DOES NOT AND DIVIDE. IT JUST KNOWS IMPORTANT BECAUSE THEY ARE CONCEPTUAL UNDERSTANDING, TERRA NOVA, IT DOES SEPARATE AND THE TWO HAVE TO BE WE ARE TALKING ABOUT. LIKE WHAT, JEAN? AND THEN IT WOULD SET FORTH MAYBE A SERIES OF TASKS, IN WHICH KIDS CAN SEE WHAT

DON'T GET TO THE FIRST TIME. REALLY GOOD STANDARDS BASED ASSESSMENT, A CHILD OUGHT TO ABLE TO COMPARE THEIR OWN IT IS ALMOST LIKE EARNING A DON'T HIDE FROM THE KIDS TO GET THAT AWARD. WE MAKE PERSON WHO IS TRYING TO EARN WHY NOT HAVE A AN ASSESSMENT SYSTEM THAT'S NOT A SECRETS STANDARDS IN A ARE SET AND LIKE THE EAGLE SCOUT CONCEPT THAT YOU ARE POINTING OUT, DIFFERENT THAN A TEST LIKE >> Craven: AND I THINK THIS

THAT NEEDS A GOOD SCHOOL SYSTEM. SO, WE SHOULD BE WERE THEY WELL PREPARED FOR WHILE WE WANT TO BE HELD ACCOUNTABLE AS THEY GO >> Dr. Allison: IT ALWAYS INTELLECTUAL GROWTH, WHICH MORE COMPLEX ABILITIES AND SIMPLISTICALLY, AND I SEE IN THIS. IT'S A SINGLE THING, MORE SO PHYSICAL AT THIS KAREN, YOU'RE ON THE LINE. >> Caller: HI. MY QUESTION IS, FOR STANDARDS, IF I'M UNDERSTANDING YOU CORRECTLY,

MANNER, BUT WHY ISN'T THERE A DISTRICT MANDATE FOR LIKE TEXTBOOKS FOR EACH GRADE >> Bernstein: WELL, I'M TALK IN HOW I LIKE TO USE BOOKS IS A PRETTY LIMITED TOOL, TEXTBOOK IS VERY GOOD THINGS THAT WE HAVE FALLEN INTO IN EDUCATION WHEN WE COVER THE CURRICULUM OR OFTEN COVERAGE IS THE ENEMY TO BE, OF COURSE, SUPPLIED IN ADEQUATE MEASURE, WELL AS A TOOL IN A VARIETY OF AS A TEACHER, WANT A CERTAIN

TEXTBOOK MANDATED, BECAUSE I THINK IT WAS MARK TWAIN, I'M ONLY TOOL YOU HAVE IS A THAT'S MY ANSWER. EXAMPLE ABOUT WHAT WE DID WERE NEARING THE COMPLETION BASED FOR A BIT, WHEN TEXTBOOKS IN MATH WERE YOU GROUP OF TEACHERS LOOK AT WHICH ONES WOULD BE THE BEST SUPPORTS. IT TURNED OUT ALL OF THE TEXTBOOKS, SOME MISSING. WE RATED THOSE,

RANKED THOSE, GAVE THE ABOUT HOW GOOD THEY WERE AT ARE EQUALLY GOOD, WHY THEM? AND CHOOSE FROM MORE THAN ONE. HEARING FROM BOTH OF YOU IS THAT AS LONG AS WE ARE MEANS TO GET THERE, THE BOOK RELEVANT. TEACH. TO HELP US TEACH. BUT WE DON'T FOLLOW THE CURRICULUM AS OUTLINED IN A TEXTBOOK, DOES NOT LET THE TEXTBOOK DICTATE THEIR CURRICULUM BUT

USE AS DOCUMENT LIKE THE WANT SOME KIND OF AGREEMENT WITHIN A SCHOOL ON A GENERAL THAT EVERY TEACHER DOES WAY. FOR STARTERS, YOU'RE DIFFERENT, YOUR STUDENTS ARE THINK IF A TEACHER STARTS BY THINKING ABOUT THE STANDARDS AND PLANS OUT THE YEAR LIKE INSTRUCTION THAT NEEDS TO WAY. THAT'S A BETTER HORSE BOOK. AND IT REALLY SHOULD TEACH U.S. HISTORY, AND I

WOULD TEACH ALL THE WARS AND KID WILL KNOW ME, WHAT'S THE COMMONALITY IN THE CARS, AND TEACHER UNLESS I TAUGHT TOGETHER THE FACTS TO COME YOU'RE ON THE LINE. DIFFERENT, IT'S ON -- THE KIDS HERE AT DOLORES GONZALES, THEY HAVE TO LEAVE RESTROOM. THEY GO OUT TO SEE ONE LITTLE KID, YOU KNOW, BATHROOM. YOU KNOW, THIS SCHOOL -- THIS GOES ON AND AGE, WHY DO THEY HAVE TO >> Dr. Allison: I DON'T KNO

764-5888, AND I'M MARGARET. ANOTHER THING, FOR PE, THEY TAKE THEM TO THE PARK, THAT PARK. YOU KNOW, JUST FULL OF TRANSIENTS. THEY SLEEP THERE AND STUFF, AND YOU FIND ALL KINDS OF STUFF WHEN YOU PASS CHEMICAL TOILETS WERE TURNED THAT MINI GYM THAT THEY ARE TO HAVE SOMEBODY CALL AND BROUGHT UP SAEPT SAFETY, I EARLIER THIS WEEK, THEY

SORT OF BAD TO WALK THREW A YOU, THAT'S TABLOID JOURNAL LISM, AND IT SCARES PEOPLE SAVER THAN YOUR HOMES, STATISTICALLY. WE DO THAT. AND I HAVE TO ALSO BY THE WAY, WHO FOLLOWED GOT THEM CONNECTED WITH OF WHICH IS REPORTED IN THE ALWAYS CAN DO BETTER IN VERY, VERY SAFE PLACES, THANKS TO YOU AND OUR THAT OFF MY CHEST. THANK YOU ARE YOU?

>> Caller: I JUST WAS LISTENING TO THE DISCUSSION, AND IT JUST STRUCK ME THAT LISTENING TO THIS IN THE PUBLIC SCHOOL SYSTEM, THAT PRIVATE SCHOOLING AND HOME ALMOST SOUNDS EVASIVE, TEACHING THEM HOW TO DEVELOP LOGICAL THOUGHT PROCESSES. EXPLAINED BY EXAMPLE WHAT I'D BE INTERESTED IN YOUR HERE. GIVE US SOME EXAMPLES THE DRAFT. THEY HAVE GONE

PUBLIC IS ALSO GOING TO DRAFT FORM, AND THAT IF THEM. WWWW.APS.EDU, AND THERE IS A COPY OF ALL OF THE STANDARDS AND A SURVEY WHERE WE ARE ARE ANYTHING ELSE. SO, CHECK OUR WEB, AND YOU WILL SEE >> Pardo: SO, WE HAVE K-12 CONTENT STANDARD, BECAUSE STANDARDS, WAS TO LOOK NOT JUST HE WILL MEANT RE, GOING THROUGH THE WHOLE K-12 CURRICULUM. SO, BEEF NUMBER

IT'S A BIG IDEA, SO IT GOES FROM KINDERGARTEN TO TWELFTH STANDARDS ARE A AN OUTLINE, NUMBER SENSE THROUGH MATHEMATICAL PROBLEMS THAT VALUE CONCEPTS, RELATIVE KMUFERN INDICATE SOUND >> Dr. Allison: HOW DO YOU GO TO ONE OF THE BENCHMARKS. SO, IF YOU LOOK AT -- I WAS GOING TO TALK ABOUT THIRD AND EXPLAINS MULTIPLICATION AND DIVISION EQUATIONS AND ETC.. ANY A REALLY SIMPLE

WAY, ASK CHILDREN TO MAKE A SOME STUDENTS MAY THINK OF OTHER KIDS MAY SEE TWO WRITE A STORY, WHERE THEY THERE WERE CHILDREN GOING TO CHILDREN WENT ALL TOGETHER. BECAUSE I CAN'T THINK OF >> Dr. Allison: AND THEN YOU CLASSROOM? OR A TASK? >> Pardo: OR A TASK. ONCE YOU HAVE TAUGHT IT, YOU WOULD BE THIRD GRADE?

THIRD GRADE. JEAN THEY ARE ARE SUGGESTING IS PART OF DOES THAT HELP? WEB SITE AGAIN IN. AND I SAY THAT NOT JUST TO THE OTHER NIGHT, AND WE ONLY IT UP AND LOOK AT THE IS 277-5555 TO CALL AND JOIN THIS INFORMATION, AND WE DR. ALLISON. ON NOVEMBER 8, AND I QUOTE, "THE BOARD HAS ALIGNED WITH DISTRICT

GOALS." A TWO PART QUESTION. WENT OF APS HAVE A CONCEPT OF THE BUDGET DOLLARS ARE DISTRICTS ACROSS NEW MEXICO TAKE PRIDE IN ASSERTED THAT SPENDING TO PRO NOTE THE DISTRICT GOALS? >> Dr. Allison: A SET OF $400 SOME MILLION EVERY YEA WHERE WE BEGAN THE PROCESS SOMETIMES YOU CUT OUT THEIR RESPONSIBILITIES. I THINK NEXT YEAR IS THE YEAR CONNECTION BETWEEN WHAT WE GOING TO BE A VERY PAINFUL

PUBLIC PROCESS. OUR BUDGET INTERESTED, AND I THINK WE PARTICIPATE IN THE BY OUR BOARD OF EDUCATION, FORWARD. BUT I'M FIRST TO GET BETTER, AND THE YEAR AFTER THAT, WE'LL GET BETTE TRYING TO GET MORE MONEY WITH THE IDEA OF DOING COST BENEFIT ANALYSIS. HOW IS THE IT IS A COMPLICATED PROCESS IS AN EXCELLENT INDIVIDUAL

THAT I COULD SUGGEST THAT CAN GET IT FOR YOU. THANK LINE. BACKING UP HERE A LITTLE BIT YEARS AGO, I WENT OFF AND YEARS, AND I TOOK MY SPEAKING NO I FAMILIAR YEN, PUT HER IN THE VILLAGE ENGLISH VO CAB CUE LARRY WAS "COME ON" AND AT THE END OF, BY THE TIME SHE WAS IN THE MIDDLE OF THE 2ND GRADE, SHE SYSTEM. MY WIFE WENT TO SPAIN, AND IN ABOUT TWO YEARS, SPOT TOTAL I MERTION,

AS A YOUNG ADULT, SHE WAS COMPLETELY FLUENT IN SPANIS SPANISH. AND IN CONJUNCTION WITH THIS, I THINK THAT THE BENEFICIAL IN MAKING THE STUDENTS COMPETENT IN INTERNATIONAL STANDARD TODAY IN ANYTHING, THEY HAVE GOT THE OTHER LANGUAGES ARE ACTUALLY. I SPEAK A COUPLE ENGLISH IS THE PRIMARY. WHEN ALL GRADUATE LEVEL COURSES CONDUCTD IN ENGLISH, LANGUAGE IS, AND I THINK THE BEATS THE BILINGUAL EDUCATION, THAT PARTIALLY

IN THE ORIGINAL LANGUAGE. CERTAINLY I LIVED IN MORA COUNTY, 9 BILINGUAL DIRECTOR HERE CONSIDERS THAT THE BILINGUAL EDUCATION IS TO EDUCATION IS DOING A TOTAL DISSERVICE TO OUR CHILDREN. >> Pardo: AND I'D LIKE TO EXPERT. THAT TRUE THAT TOTAL IN APS HAS A RIGHT TO CHOOSE DON'T HAVE TO BE IN TESTIMONY YOU HAVE A VALUE THEN BILINGUAL EDUCATION IS

THINK DIFFERENT PEOPLE HAVE ENGLISH, OR WHETHER THEY BILINGUAL. IN A WORLD SUCH AS THE ONE WE LIVE IN, COMMAND OF TWO LANGUAGES CAN MANY PEOPLE RECOGNIZE THAT, TO YOU, IN EUROPE, THE CHILDREN LEARN TWO OR THREE WHY DON'T WE DO THAT? EVERY DAY, BUT ALSO, IT IS ADULTS WHO HAVE THE ABILITY DON'T FIND THAT EVERY >> Pardo: WELL, IT IS AN MAN'S DAUGHTER. JACK, WAS

WAS THROWN INTO THAT SITUATION. IF YOU HAD SEEN ME IN 5TH GRADE, WOULD YOU ENGLISH, UNTIL I WAS IN HIGH SCHOOL. NEVERTHELESS, I THINK THAT TO USE MY EXAMPLE OR JACK'S EXAMPLE, THAT TO USE INDIVIDUAL EXAMPLES IS BUT TO LOOK AT THE RESEARCH ACTUALLY DO GAIN, RATHER THAN COME BACK. I MEAN, MY HUSBAND AND I RAISED OUR SONS BILINGUAL, AND ONE OF THEM HAD LANGUAGE DELAYS IN EIGHT, IN BOTH LANGUAGES. I MEAN, THEY SPEAK BOTH

LANGUAGES, AND THEY HAVE MORE IN TERMS OF RICHNESS IN THEIR LIVES THAN IF THEY HAD JUST ONE LANGUAGE. BUT I THINK IT IS A VALUE JUDGMENT AND IT ISN'T, YOU KNOW, SOME LANGUAGE PROGRAM IN OUR LITTER EIGHT IS A PLUS, NOT CHILDREN GROW, BECAUSE I'VE GROW IN BOTH SPANISH AND ENGLISH, AND WHEN THEY ARE EIGHT. I DON'T KNOW IF DON'T KNOW IF THAT'S A REAL HAVE MORE WHEN YOU'RE THEIR CHILD IS IN A DUAL CLASSROOM, AND SOME PARENTS

3RD TO 5TH, IT IS 50/50, HALF TIME SPANISH AND AND HALF TIME SPANISH. READ, IS THAT CHILDREN DO AND WE TEACH AT THE HIGH SCHOOL LEVEL OUR LANGUAGES, HAPPENS IN SOME EUROPEAN THE LANGUAGES? NOT IN A SITUATION WHERE IT CHOOSE A LANGUAGE, WE WOULD KIDS WHO ARE BILINGUAL IN ENGLISH AND NAVAJO, AND ARE

TRYING TO GRASP A THIRD CHOOSE WHICH LANGUAGES WOULD >> Bernstein: BUT I THINK KIND OF PROGRAMS THAT ALL OF OUR STUDENTS DESERVE INCLUDES ART, AND IT CLASS OF THE THINGS THAT ARE -- THEY ARE ACADEMIC SUBJECTS, ABILITY TO FUNCTION WOMEN AS A LEARNED PERSON IN THE PUBLIC EDUCATION SYSTEM AND WE CAN HAVE THE PROGRAMS EARLY AGE THROUGHOUT THEIR

SAID.ERENA, YOU'RE ON THE STANDARD ICED TEST, THE TERRA NOVA. YOU SAY THEY TEST ISOLATED FACTS, MY QUESTION IS, THEN, WHY ARE CONTINUED TO BE GIVEN, AND TESTS LIKE THAT? JEAN THAT'S A VERY GOOD QUESTION. ARE JUST LOADING UP ON THAT QUESTION. BECAUSE PEOPLE THAT MEANS THAT THE KID, WHOEVER TOOK THE TEST, GOT UNDERSTAND HOW THEY WORK. TO GRADE. OTHER KINDS OF

TO GRADE. >> Bernstein: BUT ALONG WITH >> Dr. Allison: HOW LONG BI BIG? OF CLOUT, A LOT OF LOBBY, TESTS ARE LESS EXPENSIVE BETTER, --. >> Dr. Allison: A TEST ALWAYS INFORMS INSTRUCTION,. SOME OF US WERE READING BENCHMARK IN THE STANDARD. WAY THEY SOLVE THAT PROBLEM INFORMS WHAT I NEED TO DO TO SO, ASSESSMENT HAS TO BE PART OF A FEEDBACK LOOP, AND

THE STANDARDIZED TESTS DON'T TO REPORT OUT, AND ONE OF GET OUR NEWS IN BITESS, AND THIS IS A BITE THAT AT HOW WELL A SCHOOL IS SURFACE LOOK AT EVERYTHING WE USE IT KINDS OF TO COVER EASY WAY OUT. GIVING A LITTLE INFORMATION MAKE IT CLEAR THAT IT'S NOT ALBUQUERQUE PUBLIC SCHOOLS' DECISION TO GIVE THE TERRA NOVA TO GIVE IT AT EVERY GRADE 9. IT IS A STATE

IT IS MADE IN THE THEY WANT THE EQUIVALENT OF EDUCATION. AS CLOSE AS YOU CAN GET TO THAN TO DIGEST A LOT OF MORE COMPLEX INFORMATION. >> Bernstein: LET ME ADD ONE IF YOU TOOK A PICTURE OF A STANDARDIZED TEST SCORE PUZZLE, BUT CERTAINLY NOT PARENTS OF STUDENTS THAT I THEIR STANDARDIZED TEST CONVERSATION AND EXCHANGING

THINK, NOT THE PATIENTS THAT WORKED WITH, HAVE EVER SAID, I THINK IT IS SOME KIND OF MYTH THAT GETS PERPETUATED WHOLE THING WE ARE LOOKING WHOLE PICTURE. THING IS NOT TO GIVE IT WOULD BE TO TELL US WHETHER >> Dr. Allison: I UNDERSTAND EXAMPLE, IF TOO MANY KIDS OF THE VALUATION SYSTEM FOR TEST, SO THE SCHOOL IS WORRIES ME, FRANKLY.

MIDDLE SCHOOL IS, AND ALSO THE BERNALILLO COUNTY SAYING, YOU HAVE TO LOOK AT ONLY TELLS ME WHAT STRENGTHS TO WORK ON BOTH OF THEM. THE K-MART AND WAL-MART, AND GOING TO THE WASTE MANAGEMENT CENTERS, AND JUST MAKES THEM LOOK A LITTLE SEEMS LIKE THERE IS A LOT OF IF THEY MADE IT MORE QUALITY SPECIAL AND MAKE THEM GREAT, PARTICIPATION, I THINK WHEN

ANYWAY, I WANT TO SAY, AND I'M ALMOST DONE, LBJ, MY BOY IS AUTISTIC, SO HE IS IN CENTER, HE IS WITH REGULAR KIDS, AND I'M IN A TOSS-UP, BUT ANYWAY, THANK YOU. I REALLY APPRECIATE ALL YOUR PASS THAT ON TO ALL OF OUR >> Caller: I WANT TO THANK MS. P.A.RDO FOR TEACHING ME. AND NOW A NEW QUESTION. WHAT ABOUT THE GIFTED PROGRAM? I >> Dr. Allison: WHAT DO YOU MUCH GET MORE FUNDING FOR TESTING. I GET A 99.9

PERCENT ON THE TEST, AND I COME? >> Bernstein: WELL, IN TERMS STUDENTS, WELL, YOU KNOW THIS PERSON, SO I MAY LET YOU TAKE THIS, BUT THIS IS MY FEELING. A REALLY GOOD TEACHER THAT HAS THE KIND OF EXPERIENCE AND THE KIND OF THAT REALLY SUPPORTS TEACHING AND LEARNING, DOES EXACTLY WHAT YOU ARE TALKING RECOGNIZE WHEN YOU NEED HELP MORE ABOUT THE KIDS WHO ARE WHO ARE DOING WELL? JEAN, YOUR THOUGHTS ABOUT

GIFTED PROGRAM IS AN PLAUDZ THE TEACHERS WHO WORK STUDENTS WHO DO, AS WELLING. RECOGNIZE WHO EXCEEDS THE FOUR WATCHING. I CAN'T TELL FOR US TO HAVE A DIRECT SERVICE CENTER, 842-3742. THEY WILL SOLVE YOUR PROBLE WORD, AT APS.EDU. AND IF I WANT TO SEE THESE STANDARDS, WWWW.APS.EDU, AND IF THERE IS ANYTHING ELSE WE CAN DO PARTICIPATION, AND THANK YOU CASILDA. AND WE WILL SEE YOU

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