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considering the fact that we're cutting over four hundred million dollars out of the budget this year but they really shows that the administration cares about people is sensitive to these issues we obviously made a case that this is one area where we simply got to do better we spend nine hundred million dollars a year on nursing home care agency through the state medicaid program and you know it does make sense that we should spend enough money to make sure that that money is being spent properly and that can be done without a lot and so this is very important for a place where more than twenty percent more inspectors now intercept fb that's right and right now only about forty four times clippers versus are the first three m sixteen facilities we lost we hope this makes the legislation liberties your past because a real sticking point is how we're going to come up with money to fund additional inspections so now we don't have to do that so we're really working on the other county building all the importance and there in the bill that were working with

the nursing home industry and i'm really hopeful that this will make it easier to pass legislation this year most likely have been with an average fifteen years but they're starting to look at their old age and other things they're saying i can't go without insurance and we had insurance for eighteen years and last year they just open for business reasons dropped about a half a dozen companies that included me in my insurance so now i'm out on the open market and never dreamed it again give people a second chance an american dream this is a two million dollar funding should enable forty or fifty homeowners at a time to be able to either for their own home or stay in our own longer term we need to drive predatory lenders out existence the legislation in congress of these abusive marketing practices can no longer prey on our people the targets primarily low income individuals are tempted by a home equity loan or refinancing

opportunity to pick up a little bit of money and this is a very dangerous financial bang there are many legitimate lenders and they're represented here today but there's some predatory lenders are not here today he will charge you ten twenty thirty even three hundred percent interest and once you sign that your name on that piece of paper here trap and sometimes you can lose your own home as a result of having made a simple signature so we're hurting people to watch out what they signed if they are troubled please come and we may be able to help them with their situation and if you come at the scrutiny of medicare prescription then for this week the us senate is beginning debate on affordable medicine have a very complicated proposal before the fb and if you become a disparate medicare prescription then for this week the us senate is beginning debate on affordable medicine have a very

complicated proposal for them the cost four hundred billion dollars over the next ten years i'm encouraging everyone in this area to look at that proposal and study and give me their advice was my job was to be the people's representatives i think you're probably a simpler better ways to do it who sponsored a bill to do that now but well we'll need to get everyone's input to make sure that we make the right decisions watch the good news is i do think a prescription drug bill will pass in this congress and we waited five six years for that spa town we got really were some of the reforms are looking for a couple of things first of all i think that affordable medicines should be man they'll build all medicare beneficiaries without additional paperwork and without an additional monthly premium was once you start charging people they're being lot of folks are be reluctant to sign up than when they need the medicine they will be participants in the program so let's a free paper program without paperwork you really got many many seniors secondly what sort of benefits will be offered are many people have drug bills in the thousands and thousands of

dollars and we can afford to take care of all those bills we should take care of the folks are hurting the most cities he called a catastrophic drug benefits and if your bills get to three thousand dollars the government steps in and helps you play those clubs that's the only reason and i'll walk forces invading ice until recently most of the puerto rican softball that's the most biggest chanting played our strength of motives have been one we had many others and also atlantic the same time jobs and instead to think about what will be the next automotive industry for twenty years from now so that really in the ground work

that same need we're working with the department of labor and workforce development more importantly with janet take the facilities that are now becoming available on the market and positioning than to be marketing a team perspective customers and what we're saying is there is what that interest out there were picking up new inquiry and i think as the international situation becomes clear that appears to be happening on a daily basis and as the economy starts to rebound after that well positioned to seize the moment and to really build a diversified for the disease than what we will do to see

industrial of the search perimeter around the city are switching primarily is infrastructure which is utilities roads and astral access roads rail support and training fb we believe that we have responsibilities make the site usable for the community and responsibility to help train our citizens to be able to hold those jobs and if we can make tennessee citizens trained for the job we can make local communities industrial sites readily available they were partnering with him using taxpayers' dollars responsibly to help build our communities stick it in while the assembly plants are very competitive fusion

centers of all this alleged goal here for the automotive suppliers for every job we have an assembly plant we have two jobs in the automotive suppliers and everyone to work on that side because you know it doesn't take too many not just like the day before you have the same number of jobs that you're talking about an m in a larger an assembly plant and these are of these are important to the economy one of the things are i really want to do is to spread the wealth around to make sure they were recruiting in smaller communities as well as the big cities can thies smaller class sizes small a couple hundred employees there so much easier to locate in smaller communities and they're not trying to figure out how to hire three thousand people in a small community so they're particularly important for the strategy of making sure that all of tennessee prosperous nelson the budget is getting fired and with the support of nelson the budget at least in the immediate term

but in the long run think one of the most important things we have to do that if the top rate about tennessee that it is a place a constant sightings were these companies want to be and i think because this helps to build up momentum and toyota announcement last week started and then listen some others coming out in their top right is so important and it's an intangible but in the end it may be the most important thing to stay i had a nice a nice conversation mr fluty that has about four weeks ago we talk about tennessee and a really important part because a lot of it i'm finding that i'm getting used to this job that people like to get calls from governors it actually is a thirty proverbs region they just pick up the

phone call him to talk with them as it happened in every state to do a lot of that in the end the months and i think i mean my sense of incentives well flapping on i think throwing different we have to gain twenty baghdad thirty percent of the market share within the first twelve or eighteen month mr of each state pantry will be doing direct mail and that all of the regular ol of tv radio print and i knew we hear more via the mail i find many of the sports marketing event you really an imam recently the news and sports

marketing events we talk about possible sponsorships well we get to continue to people today and what the people probably got information in their sleep that the game about the wonderful introduction about the wonder of what the markets here are we hoping to reach i think we're entering a wonderful market a day that would be about thirty acres and found monty that easily surf ari fb so they were aware of the picture of why we're here in ethnic kid i know it sounds like a question a burned arm that's the whole reason it and i think governor bredesen of a well it says that the frequent and from teachers i know what we wanted to provide a bit of education for kids in tennessee so without learning curve activists could be finding out what the best thing is it having to work and i don't think all the company i do know

that it doesn't cost money to change your attitude and it doesn't cost money too to look at the accountability issue of the day over we talk about the week we think a match and report card on which is hard we have got to do better with our it altogether in attitude i don't know i know that the governor as well as others have talked about a mall tae your faith in that does not take money from anyone it hopes gastric harmless because they firmly think if anybody didn't hear even john litigators to bring down another school for it but a rate of repeated for level and governor bredesen a firmly committed today the issue of the day a week that day that week we think a match and report card on which is twenty year clift and if only a good piece of data there's other data out there we need to look at we need to look at how much can we keep certain project we need to look at me to the question what if the child the helmet

rule on what's officially that there shall have in the end we need to put that data together in human identity kid and then to fight what a north korean be on a report card and i probably am not of getting a broad big picture that i should be defeated back and a puerto rican band morphed it on i'm a very organized person but i have my own faith is really the fabled twenty four march in because the met you on my pickup that left twenty six years working at playing in small incremental steps we celebrate every single accomplishment with a lot of joy we agonize over things that we can fix in a way all happy to mitigate that we can and it's really a philosophy about teaching and warning it really have us i don't think that people have you know their ago he came

in bringing don't want a crowd that right now you have to have a lot of shame you can't let that like in the book by kal we're entering a lower level of haiti now it look a lot more entering any part of town crime candidate look healthy and that look by byrne fb we've had an extremely like flu season until this weekend but it's not surprising that it's hitting us now and we have certainly the beginning lots of calls the last day or so so it appears that the true flu season is here now we are getting water ports of absenteeism and influenza like illness but we've gotten almost no laboratory confirmation of this as actually being the flu oriental and i've heard reports of folks with headache fever muscle aches and that is sort of the classic

description of flu but we've also heard reports of bloody absenteeism being due to vomiting and diarrhea and that is not typical of the flu that can be due to many other kinds of common viruses so we may be seeing a combination of a variety of different common viruses in a community at the same time some might be fluent in some might be other viruses particularly important for elderly populations of folks in nursing homes for people that have underlying illnesses and because we know that about sixty five thousand americans die of the flu every year and that we can prevent those deaths with vaccination or anti viral agents and so for those really high risk populations knowing that we're really dealing with the flu rather than one of those other viruses becomes particularly important you're doing what is their department

so i think you know there's a wage in your arms around how big nations aren't reason for sitting down individually with departments say ok now now let's talk about the specifics of this target was the situation that was the situation with the requirements secondly we got a problem oriented as rose colored glasses and just think about how far the public that this year is a bunch of assumptions about things we were going to do to make huge improvements so alive just the us would the conservative opponents say look i think i can say in a year let's take credit for twenty five fans set one thing we need to start doing is controlling the number of state employees in keeping of level most businesses are operating with fewer choices than to say this isn't there a decade ago and that

investor money money and training procedures i don't know a lot of reasons for that and the easy answer is court cases but that doesn't explain all of those all of those employees and we just need i understand try to tell people look we've got a draw that number employees are expensive we already know we're selling products to sell is going to go into endowments so we know we need to start focusing on that side of things and get the numbers down in the cellars willett with an army and the governor has said that that's going to be some tougher times the next ninety days or can be particularly challenging as we we were tested and the hope that the economy improve so the revenues improve and that the unclear situation becomes risotto for one and then phil bredesen really has so many

skills like hold my purse a lot easier for me that i wrote for the working for him in making that happen did you ever see this transformation come armed know are really good and it was an unusual little bit but not really happened and come away i think it's a tremendous opportunity and i think you know when the governor of your state that she would do something that might have a compelling reason not to do it that means quite frankly that before you allow industries to come in which you're going to use large amounts critically of hard wood pulp wood better that you say wait a minute we're not going to allow you to set up a facility that needs to cut ten or twenty thousand acres a year defeated and were just not gonna while

that until we have looked at what's gonna happen in the counties that are going to feed that facility and if those counties already heavily impacted if they simply cannot supply that and cannot withstand in their tourism and recreation and hard wood industries another ten thousand acres of clear cutting been we are not going to allow that facility to be established and said that have no filter is a problem with it the hardwood extraction at least where i'm at and what i am loosening up on a plateau and that is that we're seeing a lot more of it on the news to be there and so that may be one of the isolated areas that they were talking about but the biggest an isolated areas that were saying that but having said that a form from a twelfth district ventures mormons got worse in a whole lot of plans and into him through a harmless so i think that there may be at some point in the future when they drew the legislature to try to get a grip on

that and so some type of investment encouragement to get more growth in the situation it's been that was a tragic accident a side road there's does not appear below the damage we do have a proverbial trees and power lines down here and there but not many the most customers without power and i would count on the world was two thousand in store and when their power's been restored so iraqis mores of them pretty well especially since it hit overnight one hit overnight brochures often extremely problematic it wasn't so bad this morning work on a lot of the edges to reinstate weather service really nailed it and they said that it would be you know that whole point of it would have to say would be right on the edge of what would get it what would not that's exactly what happened we're kind of the same there is whether

that could cause problems here locally blood chances are just too good that will make us here locally it's trying to scoot north near where will be tomorrow morning we can cost effectively have a number of say snowplows that chicago this you know folks some folks will will joke about how this given amount of snow in ohio or illinois minnesota in black that weren't here near a budget shutdown away three days but the reason is because we can throw in snow or we don't do this or we'll argue that the reason is because the cost effective are the same equipment that ohio has really because they get you know how many feet of snow over the course of a winter were average is less than eight foot for the winter season we can cost effectively have a number of say snowplows that chicago this you know folks some folks will no joke about how this given amount of snow in ohio or illinois minnesota is laughed at weren't

here the shutdown away three days but the reason is because we can throw in snow or we don't do this or we'll argue that the reason is because the cost effective are the same equipment that ohio has really because they get to know how many feet of snow over the course of a winter where our average is less than a foot for the winter season where you are one out of every four to nothing and will experience a mental health problem this year and if we down ranking outfit in primary care and we don't recognize that within the school that we doubt right now that within our family that we don't get early treatment then it gets worse if we get early treatment that we get the right treatment the first time people feel better they function better they'll be more productive and will have a healthier timothy

we challenge everything and in that process then i think we've got a group that can come up with a clean slate and a bunch of recommendations let out is i can't protect innocent well would you like to be fair that sometimes mean he said i'm a bit maybe not so for the other person and so when a challenge seventy four percent of nursing home care in tennessee is paid for by medicaid ten percent is paid for by medicare so by large these are essentially government contractors and so what we're asking for here is simply to get what we are paying for and that is good quality care for our loved ones go to the nursing home administrators first then you tried the ombudsman problem and then you'd go to the state agencies a more chance than not you do not getting the response and the

thing is that you don't want to complain because there's a valid fear of retaliation for your loved one is there a place at that nursing home what i'm proposing to do is not even remotely unusual except very broadly across the country and some states it's mandatory i want to see shortfalls saw it and understand that it breaks the tradition that's been in place for a while but what everyone is saying is what was the worst budget crisis in the states since the innocent or war two and we've you know i think we're grown up state and i think we're going to confront what it is we have to do to start with it takes he was painful it is to get out of it and that just trash around what we have for the last three years and i mean i feel for him and i feel for that for the county and i understand it's a difficult position and the only reasons having to happen isn't it equally difficult you know difficult positions across

three hour across the state i'm in the end here is a you know an angle they can offer tig is nothing compared with some states are going through right now and we spoke a minute ago but granholm of michigan and she says there were were talking about nine percent you do in twenty eleven we directed our constitutional language from georges says winning georgia was the best we've got our language like there's our bill that we've drawn up in the implementation committee is like george's cause we wanted to work i ask you to work with us this in my hand it increases its going to be ours this policy is to tell you what works make it we're quickly adds i had no pride of authorship i just wanted to work with us the policy had been right thats it it so much rebecca call it is

there is some concern by some of the budget directors and some other various apartments in georgia that our revenues will fall off as the cost of the programs expanded and sometime in the future there might not be enough lottery dollars unless they get a handle on tuition increases a network fees so that what they're trying to look at is not that we can't farm we founded this year we funded every year will find next year those programs that are trying to get a handle on the escalating cost of mandatory fees books intuition if you're not absolutely positively have the same candidate winning as anybody us buys a ticket you have no reason to purchase that ticket so it's the integrity and security of the product that we must protect at all costs if you're not absolutely positively have the same cancer when he is anybody us buys a ticket you

have no reason to purchase that ticket so it's the integrity and security of the product that we must protect at all costs and we spent a great deal of time and effort and protecting and integrity and security of all the processes that go into making a lottery ticket or a liar term no there are two things that make georgia different one is are enabling legislation in terms of how we operate the others are enabling legislation in terms of how the dollars weise we raise or spend money address have the dollars we read we are public corporation the only things in state government were subject to are open records and open meetings the accountability of the lottery isn't here it is open records and open meetings are very very important and were subject to then we can and have been audited by the state auditor but outside of their employees are not state employees were not part of the state retirement system or not part of the state health care

plan without artistic your mind without artistic merit system baum our employees will become very attached to each client that they help we will fight thank you the holidays and they'll just give a fake heard from thank you gift made a holiday many town with a needy people are iffy thing very passively but we think and we talked with family at what's going on in their life we want to hear about their rehab program or their job readiness scale program that they're going to re and it's just a great experience most people don't know anymore what upon a time you know i kept her in during war cave people really aren't smoking in cash and people learned that smoking in fact really know because i can hear and edited the new people have smoking an

idea will decline in the number of legislators the fact that i am a martian and i have way that perhaps others simply did not weigh previously it is part of it but you know this really big party when it happened it unanimously if it hadn't been that everyone agreed that their health is more important than having people smoke cigarettes and the guards or whatever the court and didn't live comfortably through the community college sector they would remain open access institutions and the growth would happen a year more than that the universe theory it really that these are obviously during our proposal does not come on the boat race presumed tomorrow the expertise or ideas in a free flowing to fight for that is he did not have to be a triple a member in

order to take advantage of that to aaa members in the members throughout the holiday fever dream is where we're expanding and that it had a program all the way until january fifth the very kind of chaotic around christmas new year's time to fill in in the party afterwards they don't conflict with anyone else would capture all its costs the missionary to work who are in yemen very shortly after the attack god appealed to the international mission board headquarters in richmond that they not be relocated that they be permitted to stay and continue their work undone although they are certainly in jeopardy they they're not in fear and that is up again that's a rather remarkable circumstances least that our western standards most of us are are fairly committed to our own comforts but

the people that there were great except for missions work are generally people who are who have a high level of courage in a very very great level of commitment to the task net said that hospital over the years surprised by this a winning norvell is a spokesman for the international mission orchard that they how were shocked that it occurred there they had not anticipate anything that sort of course in large parts of the world a vision parity that you have the security in that they have had the uniformed personnel who activists guards at the gate of the compound hospital compound but no there were no incidents there oh there was and is a hospital that said that the

mission has been held by guests are sponsoring forums thirty five years as a corrupt you probably don't it is at a hospital that treats about forty thousand patients that year and provides the only only medical care that many of the people in that part of yemen have a map my understanding is that the city is in its about a hundred and two miles or so from the capital and it is remote enough that many of the people there have no medical treatment but forty year old baptist hospital and dame un to be a potential target for whatever reason over there the high level of religion that that is continually portrait we we certainly understand that that god's calling it imperative that we also must understand that sometimes that calling lead us into harm's way and that there's never an effort made to

to minimize or to downplay that it is asian much very much a matter of a realistic appraisal and and yet done you may have your your listeners may be aware of with dan curry and heather mercer and said don't quite a while in afghanistan a prison i visited with him last summer after the other after their release and end there they are ordinary people there from your fire ordinary young women but they have a very deeply into the godhead say calling the palmer lives in and they're frankly bulk of them said that if they felt that the lord was calling them back to back they would go back to afghanistan now you can i go even if you have a wish and a guitar too but down the missionary to understand their service can be the missionary to understand it so

that can be very dangerous duty particularly in parts of the world is always chaotic calling already up a lifestyle that radically alters weren't personally think standards and now he is calling for which we are we are grateful about those people ready to go sat down presumably it's because god enter a name an intention of working the grate working parts of the world where there's great need earlier you said that would that would be really are our rational look at the situation and in that way they swing it at all what i'm hearing you say is that we will take her time making a decision we will move if it's important that we move so immediately there but we're gonna make a decision based on the situation and the facts that we know yes yes the yacht regional personnel in that part of the world will get direct feedback to be up behind the personnel in richmond

we'll have people from richmond who will go to that part of a whirlwind interview and talk in and take the help they considered advice of those people who understand the situation best most people who are local endowed they will buy will make a decision it will probably not be very long in coming but the goal is not unlike a fast decision it is to make a good sound one of them for the benefit of that of the people of yemen as well as probably a benefit of those people who are serving there you'd think you'd give you people think that there's really not much out there they feel things on tv like the people of prescription plan for seven dollars and they know that they don't offer much of a death count that they don't bother with that would probably give the twelfth we can do better overall they felt her out on a daily basis taking inquiries from people who fared can afford my medication can you help me what can we do mr pham make the fire that every thirteen the internet to look

for each particular drug find which company make that and then to pull up their patients the program eligibility in applications fb and one of these were a revolver <unk> who said you know i wasn't i was not for the lottery but i feel very strongly now

that we have a really nice to be among his eight plus operation i love the roman ruins because they work in the winter for you and audie was exciting for the chance to really start a lottery from new in the state a lot of the decisions that will determine how this water runs for years to coordinate in that first in the first six months so it's an exciting time to be i have to be on board they would only go or have you can educate people that now and they're just giving the type of industry they actually didn't have to give the name of the cooperation that they have the investment and but i don't think it's a big change it gives the public obviously a little bit more knowledge on where their investment or specifically

we have all sorts to work that will need to be done in the next few years for a whole variety of customers in that third diversity obviously and now is certainly attractive to those the work here no that would plant a worker athletes' everybody from our little leaguers to the titans are risking lung damage when they're practicing in high ozone conditions like they'd is the football season starts this is serious business and perhaps most serious of all is the fact that our seniors become more likely to die of premature death from a triggered stroke or heart attack from beirut it's a direct here to the twin inhale actually burns the inner lining of the law in the same way that the trees appear in the snow geese yet burned from acid rain the inner lining of the long actually gets burned when it

comes in contact with ozone levels in the is we're happy that national mile marker and will be in the future as they progress if they look like they are not going to do a whole lot in that area and that the people in nashville or not to make it cleaner and finance global their welfare at the right now they look like they're on track to get things the economic climate we're competing for recruiting new industry and while we don't always think we will according quote dirty industry in fact a lot of the industry from which national economy have paid for in the printing and publishing actually do a new thing that they're hoping to get out the information that a lot of things that people wouldn't think about the dirty industry would never really be able to look at here if we were under more restrictive gun regulations will hear is a song that is the center's analysis

a child needs a police station in interviews the night saving children's services own area homeless not focused on this youngster in what's going on how can we really want this chaos how do you go about investigating how do we go about moving forward his innocence to need more of all of those decisions have to be made within the us i think the most important assistance do is they provide the council regardless of whether this case goes to court next year an extension and supported named a woman who had carried out over the head of heaven time more chance of having a premature baby then a woman who had no carried out publicly without olive or even really believe they've got mental health with pregnant women we think about it we would have a well it's looking at poverty you are looking at the journal april is looking at how many public education and he adds that we've been playing for years

and the numbers are getting more fun out on the fate of the other things we have to look at mit of the things that we connect the fact that they don't have a different penalty this treaty in waco a complete the handover of his son christian myself a lot of these japanese relationship said the governor was very helpful to me during the transition in and introduce me to the japanese business people need to know and this is a chance for me to go visit some of them in their offices and in their native land this is a culture in which his relationships are very important and i'm trying hard to pick up more of the sun slipped off and continue to build these relationships promote investment and jobs are in tennessee sleep as much recidivism and that type of prominent thinkers least one will be aware of today on whether or not to violate anyone's rights were no avail right now it always have to start by

understanding very last life is a is a sincere and it is a significant issue yesterday's chafe yes vase shape at this time appears that he followed the policies it appears that the officers were acting within the policy and the supervisors were acting within the policy that does not mean to say that we don't always read your policy nation but it does not mean that we will look at it again on any type of incident like this and look at our policies i was in the office and i was notified by our personnel that happens how would the same with one of our deputy chief's one to get a view of how are people analysts see how they would deal with the issues of political witnesses other were collecting evidence how they will record the incident we have to have a good investigation and at the end of that investigation is when you start to compare your policy and so we want a thorough or complete investigation we also want and need anyone who saw anything that we might know about to come forward and let us know what they may or may not ashamed what we don't want to happen is

people to lose control of themselves as well with supervision and some of the preliminary information i am on this case is that the officers were talking just like you now right now over common over collective the supervisors were engaged in monitoring process is a policy called for the aircraft was in route on its way the dispatches that a fine job of keeping everybody associated with the understanding was happened so from that point of view it's good that we don't let emotions on adrenaline take over and from their jobs that's what you got well what we know now and will remain on future two different things much of what we do we decide to engage and chases should not be for very minor thing but as things continue to unfold in front of four seasons a reminder service this time it appears that we follow policies are the policies were acting on the program again it does not mean to say that we will review every policy every time we do anything

well what we know now and will remain on the future to different things much of what we do we decide to engage and chases should not be for very minor thing but as things continue to unfold in front of you have to make different decisions i said at this time it appears that we followed our policies are the policies were acting on the program again it does not mean to say that we will review every policy every time to do anything barrier and i'm not placing blame here millions of people per day stop the political will of the people who choose not to stop a very very small percentage of the people which in itself causes a great interest and why they don't wanna stop a lot of programming that we already do that is very much built on the partnership we've developed over the years with the federal government and i think a lot of us feel like that partnership discovered being dismantled

in the interests of other things some of which you know we buy into securities a pretty important issue but at the same time so is rebuilding our cities and so strengthen our education programs and a lot of the revenue sharing if you will for the grants and things like that is going away you know what vice president gore said once was elections are about the people not the powerful and i'm out here go across the south and what we call our van true grit store were meeting people were talking to and we're hearing from them what the issues are were talking to them about about what we believe and i think we're getting tremendous resonance here he's visiting this

recipe it's at risk abroad bogged down in a war we should be an anorak it's a nation at risk at home as jobs leave this country and americans who want to work can't find the means to support their families this is a time americans should all together we've got an election to win but more poorly that we've got a country to change and a future that shape and a world to help i need your help i need your land on a deadline chris i'll think patriotism stress another apply to land on the deck of aircraft rabbi and i'll think patriotism stalker lot about national missile defense not doing your duty when you're tall that the greatest threat to this country when you come into office was osama bin ladin see our president he didn't

do everything they could have done to prevent nine eleven us what the facts are going to show and the nine eleven attack after nine eleven a traditional war that we didn't have to fight it did anything to do with osama bin laundered zeppelin and weapons of mass destruction air strike our carrier many of those manufacturing jobs we lost in the past two years were from cotton so type industries assured factories there were the mainstay of the world can i say it across the state for many many years those are gone but we're now actually go as world in general if the notion is that those jobs are moving to

a less expensive oil markets would be in latin america or now in asia set those jobs are unlikely to come back to this country so where's in prior recession switch saying manufacturers' cut employment and then we are things pick up in this case at least than other types of manufacturing jobs bug that we have in tennis eight others are likely to occur terry and i've looked mainly at the sections of the report that involve congress because we have a lot of improvement to do in congress that jurisdiction is very fragmented the budgets are largely secret there's no accountability now congressional people hate to give up her for jurisdiction so is going to be very hard to get some of these changes through for example for most every program in america program has to be authorized by one committee and then

funds appropriated by another committee for this the nine eleven commission reports advocates centralizing that and one function so you authorize an appropriate at the same time it also advocates having a much smaller and perhaps even joint committee between the house and the senate are some very senior people without term limits so they can build a genuine expertise perhaps his views five or seven people have from our staff from the senate that's unheard of says the atomic energy days of the early nineteen fifties so semi interesting how congress reacts to that when they talk about the core group and i talk about the joint committee it seems like a lot of power held by a very few is that were you concerned you anyway let's one of the tensions he faced democracy due on everybody to know every secret nobody to share the power forty one a small group to they'll keep secrets actually have a lot of power that's attention that we've gone back and forth on american history right now it looks like a period centralization because we have a lot of de centralization through our filter army's intelligence committees today

who barely can pay attention to the work at hand cause they think somebody else is going to do it within a small group of five to seven people you know you can pass the bug anybody else that you were nobody so i think whether it's congress or whether in the administration right now executive branch of government we have fifteen different intelligence agencies right now their trip on all over each other and they're each vying for the attention of the process the cia had been taught on for a long time the sector rumsfeld wants the d iii his own personal intelligence agency to be top dog because they're more climate agree with his viewpoints than the cia has wells turned out that a little known state department to sit ins has actually been more accurate and its protections than any of the other fourteen agencies so we really need to have some accountability and competence and centralization one thing that even the nine eleven commission and stress as much as it should have who are we raising here in america who speak arabic and while italy's foreign

countries and the intelligence agents for us this is not competing to be in paris or london this is competing to be in basra and karachi and all the stands in places most americans had never heard of you know one of those so it's a real challenge for some this is where we rely more on our allies who do have native speakers and you do have people who want to work and live in those countries and i'm hearing you say that you would be four more centralization yes ma'am and am i hearing emma and i haven't heard you use the word yet but are you in favor of the national intelligence director yes i think that and him having budgetary power both in the legislative branch in congress and in the executive branch in the white house you knew centralization you need accountability so we know where the buck stops we need confidence that we haven't seen so far and i think those are the qualities they were reaching for an organizational change can help promote those but none of those or a substitute for having top quality individuals people are really dedicated to the work

people are absolutely honest people who are fearless who will tell truth to power that's really what we've been liking because the temptation among so many folks is to tell the boss what he or she wants to hear and that's not doing your job you should be a careful analyst of the facts and tell the truth to the folks are making the decisions so i'm hearing from you why we need some reorganization at the top that we don't pay attention to the frontline people it doesn't matter who are re recruiting today to the cia you know are the best then a real graduates are tears you graduates going into the cia will are very skilled and arabic verse about like so far say when they're recruited probably not on a wonderful cia analyst and she's beyond and about fifty and could never pass for native and at these countries and she's fluent in a language without any help any folks who can pass as locals and you're accepted by the society we haven't had a human intelligence agent in a rack since

nineteen ninety eight according to the nine eleven commission report that's a great short coming because a lot of satellites and technical means that we have there is no substitute for human intelligence was without human intelligence that means our troops are in these countries basically blind doing the best they can with beautiful intelligence right now many americans are not aware of those were actually shortchanging our troops the administration estimated that the cost of the iraqi and afghanistan wars for fiscal year two thousand and four would be zero and the one ever we know will not be to zero now we don't know exactly how much it will be but when pressed they said well maybe fifty billion dollars and that's a lot of money fifty billion will in this bill that were passing in congress probably in september is only twenty five billion and we mostly had to force that on the administration and that will only last our troops for october november and the

somber they're probably going to run out of money in january certain about february that's not a real way to show commitment our troops are to the cause only partly funding are many women uniform for part of the year that we don't know what the real cost is but we do know one thing for sure after the election suddenly we're going to discover that we have a big bill to play and we don't know what's in the fifty billion or seventy five billion or could be higher than that because the op tempo the operations jump over troops is much higher than anybody predicted but basically no one has told the american people the truth today about the financial cost of this war and i think that's a crying shame some people say the truth is the first casualty of war we surely snow across the financial cost we have accounts over there we have folks are keeping up with a sense that i always been asked the us but you can do guess more lessen the ballpark were not even beginning to be in the ballpark today no one in washington can honestly tell you today that twenty five billion dollars is even close to the right number two we need to let the american people know the

truth what the right number is so that they can be part of this of this conflict two and help understand the financial burden in addition to the terrific human bird in the story is i still think it's a worthwhile cause but we need to be honest with the american people about the true cross oh yes well hindsight is twenty twenty and everybody can be a nation a backseat driver is if they want to but the fact is that our troops are over there today there in harm's way we need to support them with everything we've got we need to make sure that somehow or another we pull wind out of this instead of any other possible outcome are you afraid that we will mount are most worried about afghanistan right now we read and hear very little about it we only have seventeen thousand troops there in a country that's as large as california we do know as a matter of fact that's become the largest poppy growing country in the world producing more heroin and drugs than any other nation on the planet

and we know that our chosen later their common car czar until afghan elections is nicely and control one small city in the center of the country warlords dominate the rest of the country and we're in search for comptroller when i asked the chairman joint chiefs of staff why are the largest dough growing country in the world as they're hunter her her leadership he said will you surprise the poppy crop came in early this year while every farmer owen o'connor knows when the farm crops coming in it's not to art until we have troops and all around it could tell with satellite imagery that shouldn't surprise us and that both tragedy is that probably is three four billion dollars of money that's going into the pockets of the warlords and that means the taliban and that probably means osama bin laden and technically the british were in charge of the poppy crop in they're controlling that and they let us down and irresponsibility but ultimately the americans have control and we failed our mission so far in afghanistan to control the dope it's been grown in that country wish you had done differently

well the administration has not given afghanistan that much party you know they have diverted attention to rack and some other places around the globe meanwhile of talk more about soldiers in afghanistan he's quitting and he's the number one rated soldier that we have over there is a fantastic individual from the most patriotic family and never saying and he's an incredible human being who sacrificed a lot for his country but he feels are discouraged because the administration has the back burner story for them even though that's probably where osama bin ladin is today is either in afghanistan or pakistan boarder area we're not quite sure but it's kind of a second priority for the country now we have many parties to marry and our troops are stretched very thin right now most americans do not realize today that our troops are spies you stretched thinner than i have been since world war two it's a higher operations tempo are up tempo than we ever saw in vietnam or in korea and the stress on our troops is is wearing we don't know the retention figures yet for recruitment but it's tough on our troops and they're making a tremendous sacrifice force

without see it in space right now that he's seventy eight from tennessee four thousand people's been called up for tennessee is the volunteer state will have more men and women sacrifice in our country and perhaps any other state or per capita basis other to seventy eight is training now they're gonna be over there for at least a year so we think they're probably in the northeastern section of the country i just buying a little bitty ol safer duty for them that it's been for our troops are there right now they want to know that american people are behind them they want that moral support and they also want it to work over there and while there are many good news stories in iran there may very troubling ones the hearts and minds of the iraqi people are umm umm probably slightly with us today but they're increasingly worried that they can understand why country that put a man on the moon with these can fix their local ordered treatment plan or one of the answers is the danger is so great for those

target civilian or military contractors into new job or keep its face once it's fixed so a few thousand bad people in the country are messing up for everybody the change we made have essentially an embassy and a new government in the country looks like more window dressing at this point than anything else what looks like paul bremmer has been replaced by john negroponte that he's in the same office in the same building uses as a different title it looks like we have exactly the same number of troops before the handover power as we do now what's changed and it looks like that the danger to our troops if anything has at least been asylum may even be greater because the bad guys and a rack want to disrupt the progress thats been made so it's a struggle when we have some nominal allies but they're not really helping us they've given us a token force an odd even helping us pay the bills they've pledged thirteen billion dollars they only for

over one billion dollars so far so they're expecting america gary hall oh this is completely opposite from the first iraq war when president bush senior built one the best international coalitions ever leave of the total cost of that war was at four billion dollars american taxpayer only had to pay for four billion dollars because our allies were eager to write checks for the other eighty billion dollars or not saying any of that today is one reason i've advocated that president bush george w bush have more meals with his father george herbert walker bush so we can learn some a coalition building skills that his father does his legend area would you support more troops in country and we need to do whatever it takes to win hall and we don't know at that point what bomb though the roots are about i think the american people want when we're tired of the legacy of vietnam oh we have gotten into another country and where we don't really understand the enemy we don't know even a sector defense rumsfeld assess

whether we're winning or losing this battle i asked hector russell this question about every two months where your peers were committed and every time he tells me but we still don't know whether winning or losing we don't even know how to measure progress that's being made so that's really worse a member serving as one reason i've urged people to read as much as i can about this is really about that islam a religion read about muslim culture read about or some of the modern these other folks so the american people can be tuned into this conflict it's not something sits at now on tv is that many tennesseans every day and we need to be aware that when they we are hearing from our military leaders is basically our troops have been asked to pull back until after the election to hunker down and relatively safe places in order to minimize casualties that's not giving american people the true a picture of a conflict either for example the city of solution right now you can call that a success goes no marines or die and there or you can call it a terrible failure cause we

basically turned over the city to the bad guys and we don't really know what's happening and felicia we know it's been a terrible trouble spot throughout the conflict but right now we're basically not there we'll know other than from some technical means but is that the future are rack to basically turn it over to who knows who so they can build terrorist bases that cannot be the future that country we have to do better than that we have to leave the country safer and better than when we found we return to the sort of political atmosphere before an election just a moment but first what's was mubarak comes up about the fact in their current budget deficit and the project a deficit for next year doesn't include any spending iraq because we haven't we haven't done that estimate yet what you think i think the latest numbers were that we believe are the white house believes that one budget shortfall four hundred forty five forty five billion this year whatever bad news comes out washington easy comes out on friday afternoon as i know they are lying about or it's the saturday

paper let's when this news was announced as the largest budget cuts in american history in absolute dollar terms it's four hundred and forty five billion dollars the nineties the percentage of projects some people say in terms of percentage of gnp is not the largest ever but is almost the largest ever and it's a question of whether you're making a fair comparison because the previous highest a deficit in american history was under president reagan in the early nineteen eighties and while that was slightly its larger as a percentage gnp back then there was no more so scary surplus to offset right now we're basically hiding the true size of the deficit by using the sole security surplus to make it look smaller but if you compare apples with apple's the deficit is about five percent of gnp which may not sound large but that is the largest in history and we're basically on a path right now took almost two hundred and twenty years of american history to build up about seven six or seven trillion in debt and basically in the next ten years we're up

after double or so will be up about twelve trillion and at every step on the current path and as there were some battle in gaza the absolute size of the debt but also who's lending us the money to finance our lifestyles because our largest creditors now or not the european countries and it's china and in japan and on it's a very worrisome situation when you can't really necessarily trust the oil folks are lining of the money you wonder if american people would loan the american government of the money that it takes to finance the spending binge the world but its own situation and which show we all need to be alert know maybe worries tempting especially more time with this on the back burner as you point out we're not even fully account for the cost of the war in this number so if we know that us it's four hundred and forty five billion and we know that it excludes afghanistan interact the real that's it's probably well over five hundred billion dollars and we hear people complain about budget squeeze it about particular domestic programs

sino section eight down here in nashville austin number of vouchers in only to ministration has a saucepan and parties and therefore something the turn up on the spigot when the money flows if they're again something the spigots turn off the money dries up housing has not been a great party for this administration bomb they're in a tough tough situation right now because the demands of the defense budget has been so great that we are now spending more money on us defense than every other nation in the world combined that's a truly shocking figure for folks goes we're not spending more money say on education and every other nation in the world combined and facts were easy behind other nations in that because in dealing with their own people but for defensive really the strongest defense of the world we have to be the best but basically right now were carrying the load for the whole planet release for the free world and that's a pretty heavy load for the american taxpayer you believe it's unlikely that they will send troops to sudan i do

think it's unlikely we'll send troops there i think aid workers humanitarian workers all with some sort of international force perhaps from the united nations' rapson later and i guess a more likely scenario there reasonable people one would argue on one hand it is said the true that with the high stress that our troops are under today we don't have a lot of slack were already pulling troops into the middle east from korea and other regions oh the highest op tempo since war were to be his terrific strain on our men and women in uniform with snow quickly to bill center in conference i don't know nineteen and so this conference committee did the committees and do you get to hear why it what their conversations are and those committees will having been awesome fb that sad but if you're a member of the democratic party they'll let you go to the real meetings any way they'll have a large show meeting at the first with everybody represented and then two or three people

get a smoke filled room somewhere and hash things out and then you get presented with a final product i've been in congress for a long time now and it's amazing how little openness serious compared to what they used to be and it's unfortunate because i think in many ways we're losing some key aspects of our democratic system was a closed secret system like that i think in some areas like intelligence you need that but for regular legislation we should be an open book and the whole world should be watching what have you heard any leaks about their yeah highway bill or the tobacco buyout are the sales tax deduction fb i was only has about three more weeks of real session is gonna be in september and it'll really be a cliffhanger as we say whether these bills get past and we know the government has to be continued and some sort of general omnibus appropriations bill will pass but really nobody has any idea what's going to be and probably the republican leadership will take a vote count in early september and see whether

the sales tax relief or tennessee and other states get more votes than it loses wilczek or the tobacco buyout gets more votes than it loses and it'll all be a calculation not as what's good let's say issue for the country or what gets two hundred and eighteen votes in the house and either fifty one votes in the senate or sixty votes in the senate so be a very calculated procedure so far the cells actually for tennessee has ended up getting votes for the overall bill and i tell them that i hope the situation will continue because we need a sales tax relief or state what about the tobacco buyout anyhow pretty think i think there is some hope i think that i am so that's an issue that affects to save effects a couple more other states even more virginia north carolina kentucky were probably the fourth most affected stay calm its chemical fire because the senate has asked for fda jurisdiction over tobacco and one a large companies philip morris supports that but most of the companies do not support that so it looks as if the tobacco coalition a splintering and if that happens that well could be a loser

issue in terms of those so winning issue and now what about the highway bill i know john duncan is on the conference committee a republican from east tennessee and there he certainly lobbying for for some more money's be fit to stand here how it bills amazing situation cause normally is the most popular bill the congress can pass as a grace real jobs in this country it helps everybody through better highways better transportation and yet this bill has been hung up for over year now and the fight is over the size of the bill congress is one of the larger bill because we're local news all the time and more bills are plenty of highways that need help and we need mass transit things like that the administration though has stuck with a lower number and they have held to their guns and whitey given credit for this stubbornness but present right in front of the toe as shia levitt a veto on the bill but he was overridden by the congress back then so this is a curious fight for president bush that if i worry our word of all mcdonald it easier on the tax cuts for the folks who make over five hundred thousand dollars a year

and create more jobs by getting for the work with some of these howard programs fb and rowe quickly what a tough five concerns many tough theory if you you know have concerns that you hear from constituents but most folks talk to me about their personal problems they might have trouble getting so scary checker their veteran's benefit and i've been hearing from a large number of veterans of recent veterans older veterans who were about changes in the veterans the system many people reflect a general concern to me about the terrorist situation in your words they don't know how to deal with that because they want specific information and i heard a lot of comment why sano says several of the lights out against crime all over national people come up to me say and will is that information three or four years old the very best one of resistance and write to them and the trouble with intelligence information is the real secrets have to be kept secret

otherwise you're doing a disservice to the nation in an appalling euro thing about protecting our men and women are an arms why but if that media reports true that they are ferocious three or four years old a lot of that folks feel that robert that when law enforcement officers said he did know he'd have a different words fried steak he was surprised that you know we could be lower level here in tennessee i hope we can always stay at a lower level i hope the terrorists are not look in here we have some senses sides here and we should be aware of i'm sorry a promoter they're just took me back to this article i just read about how whack and height and the fact that at certain services guards to a number of facilities including oak ridge yet it's also the ones in charge of doing that i guess and a cereal attacks on these facilities are as training and i loved him ling keeping up at that or not they're almost modern military training involves not only are our guys and it does but also another fake force that we have

pretending to be the bad guys and that's a very important part of training because you want the uk that has to be say the art to know a lot about our secret so that they can be as effective as possible what makes our troops the best the one promising cooperation well reports is that they're an exercise in oprah's last year's compromise that they handed over so the information about the hair and the pseudo attack really she raising here is for the privatization issue and we fight fb we face it in many forms where they were giving way government secrets to private companies that could perhaps be used against us when they were also facing it in spades interact because a lot of our men women heard on the toughest duty say somebody's right next to like a hundred and fifty thousand dollars you're trying to do the same job and alf some things even out because veterans benefits are better for our troops than they would be for a private contractor who has all four for these folks to see somebody macon five times their play sit right next to a sometimes a better living conditions cause kellogg brown a

router bechtel on these big fancy counties halliburton may have a better trailer for them to say and then the cancer of course our troops are in so it's a tough environment in general are saying in our military is better living conditions less reliance on mr hughes there's some nice cafeterias some of these base camps that doesn't keep you from is scared to death every day when you go out and you don't know whether the locals or the ag says they're sometimes called our troops our friend or foe they don't wear uniforms you don't know if an innocent child could be carrying a terrible bomb you don't of a bump in the road is it you have no idea of the threats that you face it's an asymmetrical war and we're not very good at fighting asymmetrical war this privatization issue from one eight been reading lately we've been losing many of our top trends because they can go over to the private sector do the same job in a four five times money you know we're more customer thing about proposition in this country which we all face about sign rests over there a sensitive situation goes

you wear their uniform or us or you're mike and what thirty thousand dollars a year after they all orders you switch over the other side making one fifty or more some of the young guards protecting some of the leaders of they're maybe making three or four hundred thousand dollars a year as a very dangerous job nearby wildlife interest when they do that but it creates some tension in our forces that were not accustomed to singles privatization as never before existed like this our military as one thing about it as a food service workers something like that it's another find a private as a soldier and it looks like that seems to be i'm typically under this administration under secretary rumsfeld a direction that we will be gone we've become our canadian armed services committee anomaly tennessean who serves on that they use you talk to us about privatizing the non military jobs but what you end up saying we've over to rikers island then you see companies like blackwater that tragically had for their operator is not only killed but tortured in the merciless why they sell their bodies were hung and burned her formative years

in ah but these are men women who serve their tour they have honorable discharges they get out and then they're enticed to take up arms for why these private companies and we were barely even know the dimensions of that we've had to force the pentagon to give us a contract information about what they're been hardened paid to do and so work is sensitive and we can talk about about other workers as regular troop work that will probably our guys should be beaten it's b you know i'll get up to anything that you'd like to talk about what do you want to hear from your candidate gen keane well i think he gave a great speech of the convention over all the convention was remarkably smooth i can our republican friends were going about as organized as they've been for all these years or also emily we're raising almost as much money so this is an unusual election year there's a strong

undercurrent and art all over national outside people deeply worried about the direction our country is headed in and many people wanting a change not everybody some people have that the basic are probably on their car that's fine that's their head out again right as americans as we got free speech you're bouncing more more people want a change and there's even some speculation that this could be a tidal wave election a lot of folks saying hey we need a big change and we need to most americans used a divided government one party in power one branch another party in power another branch gotta keep in an hour each other but for recent years and we've got one party government and that's a little bit scary for some folks close there's not the check and balances than they were used to saying and i most americans over the years got comfortable with that check and balance system of a divided government one party in charge when ary one party in another but as john kerry saying the words if you want to hear him say a few individual and jim cooper about her i think he is i think he gave a great speech actually a better speech of elton john edwards did

and some people are trying that are john kerry's some super liberal or something and it is truly has represented massachusetts an answer from ferguson but if you look at his overall record not as one you're hearing there he's a pretty moderate senator as far as democratic senators are concerned he's also had long experience on the intelligence committee he's got a great war record he understands military issues better than folks who haven't served and i think he's a great source for us to offer to the american people and i hope john carroll be elected president they'd say this but atmosphere is pretty poisonous right now i've never seen tensions worse than they are today and i'll just take my word for the conservative republican columnist bob novak a piece two weeks ago singing thought tensions worse in the senate and he's seen since nineteen fifty seven in the house we see it in spades because we have no protections as a minority in the house whatever time the lion as much water do they do and that

means if they want to pass a bill we'll write it drafted and acid twenty four hours no but that's all committees and just put it on the house floor though give us maybe an hour to debate it the barely give us time to read it and its jammed through usually after midnight you see most frequently after two o'clock in the morning and sometimes if they don't quite have the votes they rushed through so fast they can't even talk to their own people that they'll hold a vote open forever we have a longer so this congress in american history so it's almost a three hour vote on a medicare drug bill goes that was a believe it was talked about in general terms for a long time we only got twenty six hours before the vote it's a terribly important bill it's a huge bill in size and scope of its impact on people he was jammed through and twenty six hours that's an outrage a republican congress and has claimed that he was bribed or attempted brought to be robbed during the vote by another republican that's an outrage that's being investigated right now that's not the american wife and i have that though that both started at three o'clock in the morning and it ended up at six o'clock in the morning

when everybody in the world is asleep just about and that's just not the right way to do things in year as speaker dennis hastert was on morning edition this morning to get it right and how recession it has a new book out and he he actually would agree with you that it's a very poisonous right now on the hill that he comes in from it at a different tack he said that the democrats again subversive that they want the economy to be bad that they want doing the turnout awful well i would disagree respectfully with speaker hastert i've known him for a long time is a great god he's to be academy junior person in my mouth that he never expected to be speaker is kind of the accidental speaker he's a great ice a former wrestling coach northern illinois i am i think he's a fine person that he's been dragged into this more more more i used to be the speaker would never campaigned on a partisan why fret about because he's the speaker at all hours or speaker hastert has been out campaigning only for republicans for years now so that helps poison the atmosphere and i think he can pull back

in his closing speech in the medicare drug bill debate he wanted to congratulate the house and a bipartisan effort and since we've been friends for a long time i walk up a reference probably knesset speaker you know that you know allow any democrat the participating us alas i they say well senator breaux was involved and senator baucus arsenal serve their senator is there not a house member's lauer all the democrats in the house are excluded including folks like me another about partisan my whole life you know we work together on things we can work together amicably they just walk away from him on here that somebody had written in that little speech wanting to use the word bipartisan when he'd in maine and it was inaccurate wasn't true and yet he's trying to pass this off after the three hour boat the longest held american history that's a sign of what you're selling in very good people blow on it they never gave a chance for senior citizens back home the title of their bill though normal house procedures have three days an animal so that the

nation in the world can see the legislation for you vote on it but they cut it short and passed in the darkened i that's not right and i think speaker hastert affinity for him is largely influenced by the majority leader tom delay there's not really a real speaker you know along and that's that puts him on a pass position especially since he's he's good at heart but he's in a very unfortunate situation it to leave me one last question what have you done to bridge that gap that is served as in a supposedly winding will lead two parts of my job one is back home are trying to talk to everybody and i understand their point of view and i hope you'll understand the poignant part my job is really in congress to talk my colleagues like i illustrated earlier with my conversation with speaker after another one of my good friends or mossad allah prohibition give his name i've known him for years he's added that are now saying i'm gonna go sour they'll mean i walked up and i said nothing to lose a little bit of your soul here and this is the way used to buy it and then he was hostile about all

over mason what you know even in the private sector i said yeah i've been in the real world of in our work and when real people and i don't want i mean it's like that in washington a while people get along with a great things about the nine eleven commissioners can very powerful very smart very partisan people we're unanimous bipartisan cause they did what i suggested they study the facts they talked it over with each other and they came to a sensible conclusion oh hallelujah the same or that we have a great tradition here of tolerance in a civil discussion and many states in the country are missing that right now i see my colleagues come back from that from birth to the country and their shell shocked when they come back to those mr gunn so maine and so polarized honest people to do is to look at the facts talk about among their friends and i cut their own minds we live in the greatest country in the history of the world and a lot of our young people especially don't quite appreciate that we need to keep it strong the best way to do that is to get

along with each other the neighbors help understand differences cause we are different and less appreciate our differences was criticized when we need to but the spirit of national the spirit of tolerance the spirit of america i think is to get along to overcome our differences are not have another sore you were about as pocahontas as we've ever been in this country know by thought about fighting that's that's kind of tough when you were refusing to understand the other person's point of the you know the well hindsight is twenty twenty and everybody can be a nation a backseat driver is if they want to but the fact is that our troops are over there today there in harm's way we need to support them with everything we've got we need to make sure that somehow or another we pull when out of this instead of any other possible outcome are you afraid that we will learn why most worried about afghanistan right now we read and hear very little about it we only have seventeen

thousand troops there in a country that's as large as california we do know as a matter of fact that's become the largest poppy growing country in the world producing more heroin and drugs than any other nation on the planet and we know that our chosen later their common karzai until afghan elections is nicely and control one small city in the center of the country warlords dominate the rest of the country and we're in search for comptroller when i asked the chairman joint chiefs of staff while the largest dough growing country in the world as they're hunter her her leadership he said will you surprise the poppy crop and then early this year cooper says most tennessee farmers know when their crops are coming in and with troops on the ground and satellites in the sky he can't believe that came as a surprise and that both tragedy is that probably is three four billion dollars of money that's going into the pockets of the warlords and that means the taliban and i probably means osama bin one but it's kind of a second party for the country oh we have many parties to marry and our troops are

stretched very thin right now most americans do not realize today that our troops are spies you stretched thinner than i have been since world war two it's a higher operations tempo are up tempo than we ever saw in vietnam or korea and the stress on our troops is is wearing paper points out that four thousand troops were to see members of the two seventy eight national guard unit are currently preparing to deploy still the congressman would not say whether he supports having more or fewer troops in iraq and we need to do whatever it takes to win i think the american people want when we're tired of a legacy vietnam oh we have gotten into another country and where we don't really understand the enemy we don't know even a sector defense rumsfeld or said whether we're winning or losing this battle i asked hector russell this question about every two months where your peers were committed and every time he tells me but we still don't know whether winning or losing we don't even know how to measure progress has been made so that's really worse a member serving but also concerns cooper is how the

war is being funded congress is likely to appropriate an additional twenty five billion dollars for the war that that money will probably only cover costs in october november and the center that finding was not included in next year's expected budget deficit the white house recently lowered its budget shortfall estimate for this year to forty forty five billion dollars the deficit estimate for the fiscal year that starts on september first five hundred twenty one billion with no war cost included wherever bad news comes out washington easy comes out on friday afternoon as i know that our lady moderate it's the saturday paper oh that's when this news was announced as the largest budget cuts in american history in absolute dollar terms it's four hundred and forty five billion dollars the nineties the percentage of projects some people say in terms of percentage of gnp is not the largest ever but is almost the largest ever and it's a question of whether you're making a fair comparison because the previous highest the deficit in american history was under president reagan in the early nineteen eighties and while that was slightly its larger as a

percent of gnp back then there was no word so scary surplus to offset right now we're basically hiding the true size of the deficit by using the sole security surplus to make it look smaller but if you compare apples with apples the deficit is about five percent of gnp which may not sound large but that is the largest in history and we're basically on a path right now to go almost two hundred and twenty years of american history the buildup about seven six or seven trillion in debt and basically in the next ten years as we're on a path to double that so will be up about twelve trillion in debt if we step on the current path and as there were some battle in gaza the absolute size of the debt but also who's lending us the money to finance our lifestyles because our largest creditors now or not the european countries in its china and in japan and on it's tempting especially more time with this on the

back burner as you point out we're not even fully account for the cost of the war in this number so if we know that yes it's four hundred and forty five billion and we know that it excludes afghanistan interact the real that's it's probably well over five hundred billion dollars nashville congressman jim cooper mortar conversation with the congressman is on our website wpln dot org for nashville public radio i think about this issue as

it's been we really don't apply to a person's life into all this has to be a wakeup call it didn't have to pay you know now that that will hit very intimate party people will point four thousand notices go out and are actually relieved arsenal will go head mike arrangements will start paying they will wait until their licenses revoked bill might write with and take care of it and that's what we want we don't revoke point for twelve licenses we just want people to meet their obligation and particularly acute you know now that that will hit pay into maturity people will appoint fourth album notes wilco reflect made a mistake in the late nineteen eighties we passed a bill called catastrophic health insurance that we thought things would like they ended up not liking it and congress repealed the bill within seventeen month some people remember danny

rostenkowski the late chairman of a wave means committee senior in fact people mold of automobile they were so angry with what country the bill does offer some help for ten years you know and it's a four hundred billion dollar bill so my opinion is that you offer a lot of help for seniors cover up a lot of money wall street journal estimated that perhaps only one dollar out of sixteen dollars and that bill will likely end up helping seniors buy new medicine have to wait for an inefficient the most wasteful purchase i've ever seen in several of the flight he did

always there and the threat has been going on for the beginning of the internet is that definition have been leaving the program and the problem is that they don't like the powerful bacteria and you know i don't want to hang in there knowing that they're you know you've got three and zero that gone belly up and left but this is a long article in the bag and foul with that with with the obvious you also if it's a real real problem in hang onto our vision community the tenncare patient did not have the ability to get to see a primary care physician you know there's no one available

or they restricted their office hours in terms of also think tenncare patient again you can't buy an election community because they're not getting paid were caught with a carrot and your patient either if they've got other patients that they can be they can play what it cost of day care law and give them priority john waller he calls because biko ms bell now it always

been very consistent it's really high in what was your visit been so far i know that you've seen center mainly been to riverside and we've been through an opportunity that they would have a plan about it our children though thing to protect our first group to protect their relief pitchers are and polly enough of the quality of life the same term that where we're not cutting deep into the department then it began to affect the quality of characters or perhaps even make an affair for the lay off employees fb the council members were here almost daily that they do not want us to increase that

galway get the camp a matter of fairness in from parties of what can we reduce without who are interested in that thing can hold down much as weekend ste it's going to require the metro council and the mayor and the community working theory close together to make sure that when the final budget year it prevented better there's ownership all about part those are the areas that have lost a lot of the jobs manufacturing jobs have disappeared in the world can ease and that's been a serious problem for all those communities it seems to me when you step back and obviously there any number of specific items of the report that people were questions about and have opinions about their appropriateness are or lack of appropriateness of sicily there's a generalized failure of controls

here in the university both share some responsibility in this and i know that there are a number of recommendations that the auditors made about how those controls might be enhanced the board itself i'm sure is going to have some thoughts on how those controls might be enhanced and one of the items that i want to talk about at the board meeting eight days from today is is where we go from here to improve their controls so we help her help to make sure this kind of thing does not happen that that does not happen in the future it's i think there's also a fear of their communication between the border and the university here is that this thing could get so far out of hand with people in the university really making someone like the vice chairman of the board like the head of the finance committee of the board are aware of some of the things that were going on that obviously concerned that an innocent man in this report were were saying a

concern than i think there clearly needs to be a more open channel of communication between the board and the universities of these kinds of things can happen the what's happened here is not different than you can say a lot of corporate america over the past the past two years where things happen in an organization and they're just a failure to move information that people eat up the chain so people can feel the weather is nasa or enron or forearm or any other kind of organization that is the farrelly on a fairly recurrent theme in this country over the course of the past past few years every time we're asking students there are increases in their tuitions at a time when we have departments and in state governments are laying people off in time the worst hit tell us a lay people off i want to be doing this concept i don't think it was good judgment and it's the kind of thing that has cost dr shoemaker his job and i would like to put it behind

well it's certainly an accurate description yes how i think this has much more to do with questionable judgment than it does about criminal about criminal activity sandman and the answer is at this point he has overpaid the items that have been specifically identified we talk to the auditors within the last half an hour on that specific subject i've since i was certainly prepared to ask for discounts against against the severance arrangement any additional money is that world and the answers that will grow your him a little bit you know that i thought was excessive was the extent of the money spent for entertainment around tailgate parties and christmas parties and those kinds of things again just now i wish the economic times in universal situations such or you could have a heck of a christmas party for a river everybody this is not the year this lecture was not the year to be doing that kind of thing and that was probably the main the main thing that struck

me as saying i just that's just not consistent with what i'd hoped somebody would do there actually was a lot of consternation and the ut administration about some of this stuff a lot of concern obviously when the president of the university who has just been hired comes in in those days he'd he's going to get probably should you know some deference about the kinds of decisions and one of my concerns is that there were enough people who express concern express concern to the auditors about some of these things i wish they had made the border where of those issues a long time before before they got to the head that they were because this whole kind of thing could have been in might have been shut off and not become an issue along a long time ago i do think that i do think the board has a responsibility that was not fully filled in terms of setting the parameters within which the president robert

sam good example is the house i mean he was told that he couldn't make improvements to the un to the residents and i guess what they assumed was even more judiciously was about what those were but also say yeah but you know give somebody a blank check points along are going to use it in one of the responsibilities of the border in this case i would have been to say not you could make changes to the house was set up a hundred fifty thousand dollars fine which you can use for or redecorating the rate be decorating the house or something and whatever the number whatever the number is and that's what i'd like them to do when i used to when i used to be a ceo and they're in the corporate world and the board sets policies and you know you can spend up to over two thousand dollars without asking us about that you need to have approval of such an enormous insights you can make these kinds of personnel actions you can't make these kinds of things and i really think the board needs to do the same thing with the administration of the university and

it focused on them because of those kinds of things can be clear about that accounted for the scouts official happening they absolutely some warnings as early say about the foundation is to the extent to which those monies were in fact contributed to the university of tennessee analyst private foundation that bears the university's name and we're unrestricted funds they could have been used to hire and although women prize winning professor to song i regard that as it almost the same issue as it being public money is money that could have been spent in many different ways for the benefit of the university i think it was a bad judgment to say that it should be spent in this way at the at the expense of other clear leads in the academic side of the universe mike is a good man i think he was not the right man to try to deal with a complex situation i felt like i had taken a really good private pilots and put him

into some forty seven one engine on fire and that it's not taken away from his skills in the private pilot is just this is not a service skills you need to handle something of that it's that complex and difficult analysts say is this one thing well i think it has ultimately not about didn't do this one thing right but there were a lot of symptoms i think he just didn't have the experience to handle a big complex problem like kevin three thousand votes or caseworkers out there have to do this or a massive retraining you know showed up with symptoms like these constant problems were killed within the court about the case workers not getting out to see the kids and i've there's ten caseworkers you common room and work it out if there's three thousand caseworkers you can't do that then it has it's about training its about computer systems it's about even bring in an organizational consultants about ari organizer it is just a

much you just need to deal with a different candidate for what it's all about like you know i thought my analogy is a lot of things that it's a lot more complex to fly think a lot further ahead to fire some forty seven when you do that piper cub and eleven and that's just that's just the difference in this nothing about you know stuff and critically about the training that he said they were making you're making good of an editor many people my people and my and my staff or they are very good people but i wouldn't dream of putting in that situation just as they'd be out of there and just out of their area of comfort management issue is the manager at how satisfied or dissatisfied or you are with your control systems and reporting assistance from the state bureaucracy as a whole and i'm not satisfied with the endowment and i you know i was at a map this thing with this thing with with commissioner miller with mike miller i mean that's it's it's a failing on my part and i think i

pick somebody who i'd like to have a lot of trust in there too to you know to do it i probably should've thought longer and harder about what it was going to take exactly to do that particular kind of job and we know that certain my protozoans then when you you know when things are not working so some people would figure out how to step up to it and make it work and you know we've got with us examples of that in there in others and others at night and as soon as i can i don't have a moderate but some particular time but it's a but it's real it's real quick here an area that's very important to me personally one of the reasons i ran and most important to life and ducks and just feel different about it the quail department because other departments hope they run well that if they don't think it's it's not quite yet into people's lives are affected in the same way that there are with these children who are your friends we're sitting in a society in which ninety five percent of

people graduate from high school and another forty percent graduate from college already when i mean in the same universe with those numbers it's really expectations we haven't had a mortar theses and i think every state is going to be in the moment but it's not true i don't think i don't think anything really different if if they get new information to present which i've understood from some press reports so i thought that was the right place to

take it away to do the same thing and it was the previous ones it came up which is monitoring the governor's office to read information any transcripts of things that are in place to sit down and read that he questions whether it's an adequate that's what i did in the previous the previous ones of twenty seconds and i want emphasize that i treat each one of these serious serving will evaluate very carefully whether there's anything about the case that justifies step outside or some sort of think that the braves would certainly include any information about what was appropriate to put in there and i say that i'm not the right person to be re reviewing a bunch of research lefauve court so any new information that would be an

important part of well i mean i'm going to have i'm going to do what we have to talk about the details right now i have some ideas about the union address and then i'd like to wait for a couple they talk about in detail but you know we've we have you developed a plan that i think is a good short term care law would say the four step process to some longer range the current plans for months of boots on the ground as they described it which means that roughly fifty dating multiple called victory and deployment time he was exposed by voters that you know perhaps are an approach of more like six months boots on the ground bleeding two of you know turning point that was a

year or less would make the lives of several it easier for people who you know were made careers mini skirts men and women are it's such an absurd position from a commonsense point of view that you get to invent a dirt path and it said a python its own which just find that then require somebody to buy at what they wear the way you know they were very untenable position but their protect the law relatives a lot of money and you know i certainly would expect you know the possibility of lawsuits or losses be a while he's going to have to report that we're entering into with the full knowledge and consent of cms another salient but that was not to be on that wasn't kosher an hour back out of course that leaves a lot of governors are kind of holding the bag up a little bit so i believe actually the frustration and the secretary was in it your people your the level oh yeah

fb leo received the first chapter of the kinsey report today and i'm afraid that the news is a lot worse than we originally thought i guess have known this was coming for a little bit but they were very clear that tenncare as it's currently constructed even with the changes we've already made is not financially viable or i've just come to grips with it could be a little single shot solutions not a matter of changing one thing or changing some benefit somewhere it's going to take a much more comprehensive approach to it i believe we can do it i'm not giving up on tenncare this is not from a primarily a financial issue it's an issue it a balance keeping a state budget solvents and at the same time providing care to an awful lot of people look to tenncare independent and care for their for their health care because for me today was the beginning of the ending that guessing game approach to it and really start several hours of hard numbers are planning like you would in a year in a well run

business i'm sober today but not discouraged where to find some solutions to this scene is not the richest state in the union but there's no reason we can't be the best managed it's clear to me there's no single shot solutions not a matter of changing one thing or changing some benefit somewhere it's going to take a much more comprehensive approach to it i believe we can do it i'm not giving up on tenncare this is not for me primarily a financial issue it's an issue it a balance keeping a state budget solvents and at the same time providing care to an awful lot of people look to tenncare independent and care for their health care three months ago before the general assembly and outline a strategy for this program that was and still is a wonderful green thanks to tenncare

there are hundreds of thousands of tennesseans today who have health insurance who in other states would have not been the same time here in his consume more than their share of state resources that a lot i want to play like what's going on join to present themselves in our schools present as children who live in our city and it will present themselves and hospitals or in other places for services in the end

are living here are present here and we have to respond but we got in this case be sure that we are rational about providing we're doing what we can to say to keep our community matches together but healthy and that's my job well fifty percent of people in major davidson county would support some sort of recognition by the state of sexual rights to have you know again a visitation rights tax rates and caring for its own so for now the way rephrase the question because you know it's been an issue of in discussion on gay marriage versus civilian but again still here forty four percent of the total in a punishingly only surveyed were opposed to the idea altogether change your behavior when i do something differently we don't have to work we need trucks to drive slower or use low sulfur diesel fuel or or

put new engines in how we may have to go along or is that don't emit so much pollution in the air we may have to take a second look at these hybrid car is that general motors and ends and nissan and other countries are thinking about making which which don't hear quite so much tv and the coal fired power plants are going to need to do a better job of cleaning the air and i'm going to have to vote for strict clean air laws so they're dirtier produced in georgia and in ohio and michigan doesn't blow and tennessee to keep from having clean new source review is a part of the problem in that that's that's simply a question of whether the old coal fired power plants when their improved whether that's routine maintenance or whether it's a whether it's not i think the solution to that problem is i'd like to see the tv you get on a path of retiring the oldest coal fired

power plants and replace them with something else new coal plants purdue's a lot less coal gasification is a much cleaner fuel than the current plan the new the nuclear plant's the tv ads or very good for my appointment because that power can replace old coal fired plants these old coal fired plants are big problem but so our cars and trucks and when we need not just like that on tv at some out of state electric utility we need to recognize it when we have two three four five cars or family and we and we've learned lots of lots of gasoline relative broccoli i don't think so i think it's time for us to recognize that we invented nuclear power in this country that we've operated nuclear submarines without incident since the nineteen sixties they each one have a little nuclear reactor on them

that we think that it will affect the people i think they're the most logical substitute for coal are also like to see the va pay more attention the coal gasification that is burning coal first in the gas and then creating electricity it's almost the same thing as making electricity from natural gas and very clean eastern tennessee knows how to do it costs a little more but it claims the air and i'm i'd be willing to pay the bill monroe's tennessee i think the nuclear waste problem is a minor problem solve compared with all the other environmental problems we have in congress a statement taken the steps to get to do with air france and japan are are moving in every year with nuclear plants japan which suffered your shame and nagasaki now produces more than half of its nuclear power from nuclear reactors france adds a new nuclear reactor near reality

and once since the nineteen seventies well you're the other side about that my impression is that the early action compact or good idea that it says you can just order things done in life i've found that out over the years in government government and there's so many parts to this clean air problem that we all need to participate we needed to buy different kinds of cars we need to reduce our burning we need to try different kinds of trucks we may need me to get our vehicles tested so to persuade people to do that the early action compact unites local officials and citizens businesses and everybody has to be involved in his three years to make me the goal that sounds like a very good idea to me unless somebody can explain something differently than the atlanta this legislation that warm that will make it clear that tennessee's early action contacts are the solution not the problem fb

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