Remarkable People: Making a Difference in the Northwest; Maryann Burk-Carver Interview on Raymond Carver, tape 52

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my time on the show ah i was almost fifteen mens rea was seventeen you just turned seventeen years in the summertime and a gap washington i was working my first public job at a donut story i say called the splendid job and he came in with his younger brother and i'd never told us before until recently

abandoned it was an absolute fact i had it's a powerful intuition that this was the father of my children because they marry him a handout it wasn't really love at first sight assistant just a powerful recognition that this this is worse than no his brother sat down and his mother with their working but i didn't know that i was raised mother and so i saw this dashing and now in our peer out from high school and they said to her all weighed on him and i rushed her to do it and they both just let me do that and didn't dean let me know that they were related and then once i found out that the next time he came in and i was going to russia or wait on him again she said oh no that's all right i'll do it myself that's my son and i need to talk about something that i really felt mortified that they played there we're not let on the first time in many and and i figured they probably laughed about that

time and that was a big jump all around and has seen the end is thursday hour two years later we went to give that is how i met him in june of nineteen fifty five and we got married in june nineteen fifty seven in the first year actually i was almost seventeen we got married ray was nineteen in the time i was eighteen i had two children in ten years twenty years to joe and i was eighteen years old supporting for people with some college in writing stories so we have our responsibility of an early age that as you say we had gone together for two years before we get married and almost all the time i was in a private school girls boarding school so much of the thing that our time is

spent writing letters back and forth every day estimate for your teacher and decides other indications is that he has no say do you serve in a castle howard use it really different backgrounds races saying that pence well let's play difficult to say i'll raise mother said one time when we were going to go there after they're married the thing i like about you so much mary as the eye we're all just to say we're like an end in ways that was true we would not be famous in town and and they like my parents very much they like my sisters are families blended very well from day one in fact one time when race father became mentally ill what he said he'd like to do is come on visit

my father because of the pickup that there'd be good healing energy there and he'd be welcome and it was a place he could go you know who is to say this is american and people come from immigrant families and handed down sooner or later swim amounts to stand up are you harry aspirations the current and he was your attitude towards education are deafening scanning internet education i've kind of been interning in and that i was going to private school and i was working very hard on a scholarship to go to law school and i'm just no doubt my mind it i did come from a family where all the women are very strong and powerful in educated both my grandmothers were teachers and my mother is a teacher and mother sister was a teacher and my father's <unk> teachers and the other sister was embarrassed so everybody and the new coalition long for most men

ah my father had wanted to be a doctor religion variously been very assets and what he had had to stop and go to work in there no way in that generation or before have been to college that may has two cousins one of bell's finds out one who is an aerospace engineer buying just right at the time and within that school administrator so that generation was going to college these these people from arkansas that work so hard in the sawmills have gotten their flowers and neither pious and were just really sweet people were car so that their children could have a good education and i did a previous eighteen wheeler is a class kind of thing that sounds different security

outlook towards what was important in life as far as it was concerned well i was saying that they didn't particularly like school he was bright and he knew he wanted to be a writer at that plant is his life working career now that yeah god he didn't particularly enjoy high school and even particularly want to college what i want to do is have an adventure and physical adventure like ernest hemingway in hand he wanted to rely on what she always did and he wanted to acquire some material things at that point he went to work and have a car in nice clothes and a phonograph records of this type of thing and right after high school i was more important in school but i did say to him i wrote to him from same policy and said damn i knew i wouldn't be happy with anybody who didn't go to college didn't have an education because i was definitely do

that myself and i urged him to go in the bargain kind of lies that and for him to go he get to go first it because it wasn't possible for both of us to go and they're so i worked and worked and put him in school and he gets season and i was a state law student you know waited for four years until i could go to that the upshot of allies that that the first thirty years of our marriage one or the other or both of us were in college and her sister live free years and years and years we didn't have any money we worked hard and studied hard and raise emphasis was on his creative writing but he met john gardner and richard daley and lots of friends who are writing and he became a pow the first editor of the literary magazine at chicken steak he started a literary magazine and the editor of the humble are you and distinguish

himself graveyard it's strange to say you know we do say a recent northwest american faces as the lobster fishing can you speak of activists early days growing up sure yes yes he loved to fish he loved to hunt he went fishing with his father all the time and his father's friends and his younger brother as a matter fact when i started going with him i went out fishing with his brother and his father to i spent a month in california with his family and had my sixtieth birthday there which my father's well raymond to see your mom cooked a beautiful brigadier trout that we'd all cotton and bown all the fish and gave it to me and make me a birthday cake with sixteen candles and ah yes they were just a sports oriented family several times

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