In Black America; Economic Rights as Civil Rights, Part 2

and it's because this is america and when we hit the concrete examples of the big success stories or what that year to what had an epiphany about the market ten years that's what we tried to get that while an aerial leading people would say wow look at what i'm a thankless example the very important way we get those examples where things that time that reverend sharpton an advertising company cantv the face of a mutual fund that's company cantv and we were astounded reese's modality mutual funds that a lot of you know there were five hundred billion dollars in a legal fight with the major

avital by companies companies refinance not advertising and i think that having not advertising in every magazine and the one hundred million dollars a year in advertising senior vice president gary of capital management the wall street project economic reciprocity consumer education pension fund management this is the length of today's civil rights movement that reflects a new agenda for was more of business finance and economics and on human rights and social equality as one black and that's a professional put it after medvedev gently medicare is vested in stock and bond markets as it like our part because we have not had the experience in our family we think the same information as you know a family issue i'm john ensign jr and welcome to another edition of in black america on this week's global economic rights as civil rights part two in black america i think the promise as a precedent that was by

digital media is wrong and i think we have as in this is somehow people or invest because that jump onto nichols regular the people by suddenly and all the lottery tickets are fifty thousand of income range the poorest people of them was rolling around out by you know fifty dollars a week in a lottery tickets are poverty adapt americas americas is not a positive result of law of income or lack of resources as a hobby of mismanaged the resources and i think we have to we go into chinese cities many of us are great antidote in churches we're going to talk about why why are you spending the lottery tickets without the dallas to be a mostly investment in egypt but we have to re edit yourself by going to talk to people about what they're doing with the money you'll get more but what you got alford edmund jr executive editor black enterprise magazine according to one source after americans have five billion dollars in purchasing power is what we do with that power there was a type of conversation

brownback some polls until last year at a twenty third annual convention and jobs there other national association of black journalists symposium entitled economic rise as civil rights addressed a question they're so how will this change the way america does business implications for global industry and how a business justify anticipate the impact of this new civil rights movement moderated by earl grey's gioia president chief operating officer of black enterprise magazine the panel also include al sharpton chairman national action committee as we went after certain companies and we're at this one in conversation with mexico and with all federated store that old macy's in dale and others and we are meaningless at all on advertising but all that the fact of it is that we have found that the lopsided advertising projections are absolutely wrong that they actually run parallel with this memo

all they sit and save weight loss like we're doing alright the black community we bought tickets to a banquet always fossil some table saw what and we said no we're not talking about the letter we talk about bad times if you bought tickets to a democrat and we encourage you to believe that in things that have nothing to do what advertising budgets and we should not allow community to be insulted it's the law it's b a lot of that is that many of them to use funds when we went to madison avenue and began looking all around the offices of some of the major habitat friends of his country that all the other side of the where the

dollars go you will not believe that you're in a city that we were driving a black latino and eight it basically black backpack a personnel practice they say that would be reflected in what is what is even modest it is this sitting there with federal accounts citizens so he was you cannot and we want to be about or what a million dollar federal dollars so that's another one another thing is that we are working closely with great hope was reverend jackson invites documents come because we want the shortstop holding meetings as holden's and say we want to know what the advertising budget is in our company and they don't want a great little flaw will be jesse and i

had smuggled meeting this kind of cost of mass mobilization is no sir i think that in this time where people are told he's not looking for handouts or welfare payments out i think that we will stop well the obligation to vote so messed up a wealth mentality a waltz that messed up the baby will also act lest up handouts of all sat next to business interests away if you in our community for business you ought to respect the business is about community respected the institutions that we get information from all we would just do business with people that do business well i don't even have to talk the whole language

of what got you just buy will you respect and you would go where you're not believe we have regular stations and newspapers and magazines that have themselves are men and many of them after themselves i don't want stress what are discriminated against based on the color of their skin not based on the novels in the market not based on their ability to limit the numbers were based on the fact that you have cement know that how about it is not all as civil rights movement movement of twenty first century to mobilize against that and as loud initiative is in the advertising links below i want to throw this question out of palace let them no particular order affirmative action consistently has

been much maligned and as confused as a handout as opposed to an opportunity and so that you all understand our own perspective we from work and it was affirmative action was only put in place to guarantee equal opportunity not to guarantee success with the guarantee opportunity and that if you were locked out of the opportunity to to get business how else we be able to compete fairly well i guess the panels is interview the current economic or political climate as relates to affirmative action what is the best way to have to compete to continue the initiative accepting or expecting us to get our fair share of business in an environment where affirmative actions being caught at a contract to being caught all government related thing to being caught preferences are being taken out what is the best way for us to be able to mobilize to move ourselves forward so that we can guarantee that we give our fair

share of their opportunity to compete in an in this marketplace rich with comics all laudable with stewart when when we attacked in america somehow you know when i hold my head down and trying to peel to you know you know accepting handouts the oleo part of action of objective to in this country and believe me apart of action did not originate with the civil rights movement are locals who write legislation that of the policy's been called many different names that always existed where they were called farm subsidies local ag subsidies the audio this is this is a common mechanism a regular mechanism of of the federal government may stay local governments is not new but only when it becomes applied to people of color nelson becomes offensive anti american you're undermining initiative on that i think we have to not get caught up and trickery or somehow we're doing something as un american and then it's something that all americans are relying on

their merits of their qualifications and we're not on where you saw the debt burden if you get past all that self guilt you will somehow be doing something different than other americans do not do have not done the pages you know it's allowed the alternative legislation on one will settle out the basic one class really basic origin or your anything we do to be people of color by virtue way this country was created a run and it still exist today a true discrimination know whatever discriminate against people of all let your cat in that the body does the bbc mundo were just annoys the original to get my cat all sought to get in that we can use the second thing i would say that it is a political battle on bp would ascend literally are the reason the battle being lost or wannabe to the people are fighting for our side or you have a math or what was the statue is on the way the people and all the sun have permission or so i'll ask you as a last time to check to support the campaign owed the

senate cobbled it wrong or any images that a black person or a white politician or legislating huge news on your side of the issue it's not about just would call the politician is it is also called the legislation to pushing of recording and we have to stop being honest our life thinking that we are politically savvy people become mired for usable president has recognized that being politically empowered what you do with your time and your dollars every day in every election in the local school board election to the local you know if you go to get his campaign coffers full and i pulled back just making sure that we direct our dollars on seven million dollars in the lottery tickets will be a great battle for a lot of candidates that we want a river show up as campaign and bios campaign and we believe and so i think those two issues that was the part i think what is isn't that the american way it's you just are living a house without wondering what happens when we can't get a job a way and you know we are a text voice of it was a moment and we just thought that your now

a couple of points that i actually agree with your statement there aren't any decision about the defense the nature of power community when it comes to words affirmative action is something that we ought to get over and just understand that it's a part of what will carry us successfully they're the next century and so these economic issues one i talk a lot about in my discussion about the differences between african americans and non african americans is really start saving investing and how we can hopefully our ameliorate the wealth gap that exists right now and so it's not just the importance of saving investing speeding ticket or your family was important to save invest even be in that mindset that i am an owner and i wanna know as reverend sharpton marty said my board of directors it there are people like me on that were directors as a kid no clue my senior management is at this company and that people like me are there representing my interest and also to get to that point where people understand it that diversity is there which we

all know it's better for the business it's better for you to share older because the company will be is more successful is never the company incentives that will go out because it will know the different audiences that need it needs salt on it too and ultimately it's better for the country so again that the ban seven s have to go away because this is everyone wins at this works just a hoffman's greg was look at this historically everything from the old homestead act i mean that they have been throughout american history ways that they operate state government programs that would give an advantage to white males and there was a time when they were conquering the west that they were absolutely subsidizing a white male and want to run fast and give them x amount of money to get started so i think that we must not be defensive about how our government initiative particularly well since we build affirmative action is to

deal with a government initiative against us thought they can read the document we don't need the government to do and they're trying to be race really is the israel government policy or gets us this was all festooned government was this was not us of course that people are kind of pickup disposal all that we could not hold certain job that we could not all go to certain schools that we could not have access the city's other people have you cannot turn around and say the government should not own do with government and that suddenly we have to talk about it from that was one thing my mother said to me about what would a harder one of openness really are you know a mother can afford single mother raising fortunes are somewhat softer and full financial aid a moment want to disabuse me of this us about that stigma because i had no government not to get a college education would you sit with a firmer action is not a crutch

for me it's a crutch for them because after that probably will walk right you'll see you correctly the soul you did that with a talk about all you should be able to know this is not a fight for me this approach you because left to your own devices you will discriminate that you own devices you will about behaviors that have been comfortable with for all this time now hopefully one day we'll be able to embrace all you literally you're going to walk right away where to scratch something to be so this country can move ahead and we can say that is what they owe what listeners in california look at how the tension level of black male students and others went down for sale roh so clearly of people a lot of all they will lead ben and an outbreak that offers what is correct then we'll get then the idea we need to keep his race there and i think we must mobilize as as <unk>

political figures and social possible routes that do is that we can no longer sit by and watch others generate political it's also possible with and we cannot do it's sixty four well getting rather president he was and explains what all four years later richard nixon became president and they all the white house opened for years or kabul for the next two decades because they believed in that will let ronald reagan became would back water invasion we must have the same determination and hang in there they will not talk about what was not popular the baby wasn't popular with conservatives and we can't get rid of that we need to fight based on the edges of what's right and this is the question and a question on this question for nellie kelly how can the government and the private sector for partnership

to do more to encourage black savings investing especially given the uncertain future says one of the things that we think needs to be done and this would be in some eu radical but we think saving and that seemed to become a part of curriculum in high schools integrate schools and i just like you learned reading reading that whenever that sound you also learn about saving investing and particularly in the black community where we don't have a history of understanding the financial markets and again we dont rob inheriting money we don't grow up talking about the stock market around their dinner tables we need a little extra help they're and so we think that if that were done that would take us a long way towards it really reversing the problem that exists today that you know this question is to live in sharp sharp and a lot of people have spent time talking about if initiatives different issues reports to we need to do this we need to that we start a number of initiatives it seems we start a number of initiatives

to or to try to make things right through to turn things around a lot of the things that i find most intimate ways more discouraging than encouraging is i don't think that i am white people wake up in the morning necessarily and say what can i do to find a way to exclude african americans actually do not believe of that his occasional surprise we talk to about this is an advertising what have you they don't like that i don't believe that we ever said today when i when i get to the opera's presumably would find a way to cut somebody out the reality is that they're not exposed to african americans they don't they're not working with african americans they don't have personal friends or african americans or hispanics or nations and therefore when it comes time to sit down and to do the plan bob there's no way that they're not drawing from anything that says there's anything role they'll be saving anything wrong is only white people sitting on a border the question is what

can individual people do what is the end of its responsibilities to walk in harm's way a little bit as african americans to make sure that the doors opened up my father speaks about all the time he says you have to be willing to walk in harm's way and not only has he said he sits on five words a court reporter producer listening in less more white people i'm on the board of directors here the focus against what is it we can do for african americans what is it that individual people can do to help in the initiative for years pursuing any initiatives that are in jackson's pursuing and others towards gaining this is economic what is it that the individual person can and should do well i'm i first of all i'll be back if i didnt say that empty life of one of his only concern with their own individual concerts at all make a broad observation to allow their community this idea of a holy doesn't preach a lot of the hardest job in the world is a christian funeral of another doctor may

grow as a hot dog you want to work with you all you have to loosen they are meeting nih is the book then you get a new car you get a nice walk that you will write all we must have a personal commitment and we must use every opportunity we can get it it doesn't need lots of going to jail and promise i sit anywhere in your building all on a daily basis are the wait could be all tried to disavow it best understandable emotion that you know the incorrect among bowls that you have to deal with him in the white corporate world well you were wrong arkansans to remain an insect on salads is to cooperate

with the demise of your own community than yourself so that is we must a lot of what we do you know what it was that a bit when it cools of portland that initiative we must stay on the issues that we raised like i was writing like the south and run into like who would win eleven thousand and not allow the us to dictate quality that we must set our agenda at work on until we see that the bottom line has changed and that may not be determined by the market what's the point for tv guide and those things department and i have to follow the industry and i've notice that became and practices and i noticed it because of their practices some black shows just aren't profitable enough to keep one year i thought well that's just basic discrimination is there any legal remedy for that baum we have

i just recently saw an arm is a booklet called multi cultural marketing that we get around here three and it's a minute the black audience into a lot different the hip hoppers the seekers bubble of law and i notice that that seems to smack of you know kind of waking people as more valuable than other people to many legal yeah well i don't want to know about this coalition the gemini of all we all right past the legal ramifications of how to come in with certain scenes and m n and thousands of images used to come in and deal with that you're right all right he raised the situation right now while all that show your article when it was on fox television all got several major habitat would that work all footwork all about bears he went to the same

says a year later it would not by saying show saying that wealth was not gonna show we want we want to do good with thoughts then he sent a white ribbon and they want the same show the state that view so there was i probably wouldn't it realizes i got to know the privately that we're looking at what the lawsuits altogether right but the thing that we have to recognize that the discrimination is not a disgrace it as a tv show but says commission is the black islamist group if you look at the top ten shows a long white america where the top ten shows among black americans isn't the only company have money that will happen that will want the same things omar i was on a panel yesterday on the current on technology and how america or via supposedly on what the fact the matter is with a lot of the jobs so you can't they don't honestly couldn't because when you turn on new york undercover your ceo you know cause they're advertising on that show when you pick up lewis's magazine

you'll see you know all the data for now the magazine art lutes about komodo to do that so we're gonna look at abuses by indiscriminately always by people actually trying to sell to us and we have to think about that as we consume media say it was the only reward with their job spinning out to get to me and that the withdrawal are from venus or needing to me watergate you money to be good job though there's been a steady job and also stated a particularly new jersey those of federal lawsuit that established even the circuit court that all blacks being stopped five pounds more than whites on the new jersey turnpike based on race and bigelow also came to hear how we are unable at this year for young man from new york would rather than a new jersey turnpike going to north carolina to a college basketball trial they will follow the police said they thought they were going to roll back woman they shot there were eleven times on three of them were hit with eleven bullets fortune in the bag

and the only thing i found in the car was about eleven novel i play the in depth reporting should be that all you know what was the black law enforcement that are now that highway that these salvadoran citizen of people know and i'd like to see some reporters i would write better about what us and an end and document the experience or blacks or to accumulate now call the unilateral global football reason identification check white and the only guilty of the wb driving while black to fight back with back into their economic situation always a mystery are delighted to action by valerie lindgren some repairs over with isis in morning traffic on the long discrimination in retail on you know hugo torres several suits that had million dollar settlements because of people being stopped in the store's one of the maybe made to take off

his shirt because that would be assured that was the same breath when the storm won't you think racial profiling other people would be a lot higher all the security people in the target their cops were moonlighting whether former cops who looked rather and see a nickel back earlier statement a suspect alford edmund jr executive editor black enterprise mags a if you have questions comments or suggestions as to future in black america programs write us also let us know what radio station you heard is over the views and opinions expressed on his program and not necessarily those of the station or of the university of texas at austin and jewelry an opportunity again for ivory a technical producer david alvarez i'm dancing jr thank you for joining us today and please join us again next week cassette copies of this program are available and maybe purchase by writing in black america cassettes communication building the ut austin austin

texas seventy seven one to ask in black america cassettes communication ut austin austin texas seventy seven wanted to do from the university of texas at austin this is the longhorn radio network i'm a journalist and this week on a lot of thinking and acting and convincingly i think you know why not the way we would have the wi fi and now that's like kind of that rise of a civil rights martyr to this we got to pay it