In Black America; The Black Panther Party, Part 2, with Bobby Seale

Take care. From the Longhorn Radio Network, the University of Texas at Austin, this is in Black America. This all happened before the Black Panther Party came about, brothers and sisters, but it led up to it. It was a scene. Next thing, I know I'm getting kicked, and I'm also being loosened by these three or four guys that's holding me down. It's my brother, weasel, and

a couple other of the Black dudes kicking him off. I come up, get my knife out, get away, yeah, I thought I was being lynched. Yellow T-shirt comes up again, I cut him, then I'm forced out into the street, and Huey's over here, boxing this other cop, this uniform cop, and nobody knew it. A little young Muhammad elite. I mean, whooping this cop. So the cop can't get himself together so he wants to go for his gun. So Huey puts his hand and holds the gun down, and comes back and keeps pulling the cop around. I mean, if you really want to make a movie tell it how it happened, you'd love it better. Bobby Seals co-founder the Black Panther Party. Last September, the University of Texas at Austin's African American Culture Committee, the Texas Union and Douglas Sigma Theta, sponsor an appearance of Black Panther Party members Eldridge Cleaver, former minister of information, and co-founder Bobby Seals. The Black Panther Party was once a powerful force in Black America, especially among inner city youth. Underseize by the police who often

trampled on their rights, beset by internal difficulties with the membership growing older and no new recruits to take their place, the force of the Black Panther Party began to fade. It wasn't always the case. From its founding in October 1966, the Black Panther Party departed from the platforming tactics of all established civil rights organizations by insisting on the fundamental right of self-defense. The Panthers sought to establish themselves as champions of the Black Pore against the police. The Panthers also provided survival programs such as sickle cell anemia testing, free breakfast for children, and free shoes, just to name a few. I'm John L. Hanson Jr. and welcome to another edition of In Black America. This week, the Black Panther Party, with co-founder Bobby Seals, part two, in Black America. So we had to go to court, and I said, Huey Mann, I started Black History Fact Group, we worked on that, started shows to the fires of the council, been a year and a half since Malcolm X's dead, we got to get an organization going, well we got probation. I got one year

probation, Huey got one year probation. And we went down to the Wall on Poverty Office where I work, I was employed by the city government, people don't know that I was employed by the city government when the Black Panther Party was created. It said down and wrote a 10 point platform in program. We didn't even have a name for this organization. Number one, we want Poverty to determine our own destiny, our own Black community. That was about all the discussions we had had concerning the ballot of the bullet. What Malcolm really preferred was the ballot. The idea was, is if we, Malcolm further had said, beyond that phrasing, that we need to unite the Black community vote. Unify the vote. He said it clearly to me. He said a lot of things. He said it self to some Vince was an act of intelligence. I read that stuff back then. During the early 1960s, UEP Newton and Bobby Seals had no thoughts of the Black Panther Party, no plan to head up any organization. And the 10 point program was still in the future.

They had seen the Watts riots. They had seen how the police attacked the Watts community after causing the problems themselves. They had seen Martin Luther King Jr. come to Watts in an effort to calm the brothers and sisters. And they saw its philosophy of nonviolence rejected. Black people had been taught nonviolence. It was deep within them. But what good was nonviolence when the police were determined to rule by force? You and Bobby had seen the Oakland police and the California Highway Patrol began to carry their shotguns in full of you as another way of striking fear into the community. Of this came the Black Panther Party. They had no choice but to form an organization that would involve the lower class brothers and sisters. This past September on the 1st of Texas at Austin, Kansas, Elders Cleveland, former minister of information and co-founder Bobby Seals presented their style of the Black Panther story. Besides all the other materials and all the history of our struggle, to know your history are African and African American. He just gave me this world view. And when it's a world

view, they went beyond just African people being oppressed because already had an identification how Native American people had already been historically oppressed. Wow. You know, so we wrote that. We want poverty to determine our own destiny, our own Black community. Number two, what we want to fulfill before our people, I think that's where it goes. It's all in this book here. You'll be able to order it and get it. I got to pass out some stuff for you to order and get this book. That other college I spoke to this morning bought every last one of these books. See the time. It was the original book written on the original orders of the Black Panther Party by myself. We wrote number three. We want decent houses on the fifth shelf of human beings. So he would say, what else? What else? I say, what else? I said, nothing else. He would say, right, nothing else. We'll write a collateral something else. But the first 10 points has got to be explained to the people in the community, to grassroots people. Because I had seen a lot of brothers and they were good. They were sincere, but they'd come into the Black community with some motivational program and a war on poverty program. And you'd have some young brothers and sisters in there

that would be motivated in the class. And they were highly educated in the academic. You didn't know how to break down the high pollutant academic phrase theology. The basic socio-economic structure in the adverse conditions that you're subjected to and considering particular sociological and psychological factors against the backdrop in the history of slavery. Some of the young brother Walker, he brought Bobby. What they talking about, man? Didn't know what was going on. Number three, we wanted decent education and taught us about our truth self. Period. Number seven, we wanted to immediately end the police brutality and black people in our black community. Period. When all black men and women to be exempt from military service, you know, we sundered up, we wanted land and housing, education, clothing, justice, and peace, all the points of what we want. Ten points. Then we wrote ten collateral points of what we believe. We wanted to read the first ten points. Then we went upstairs and you said, you know, if we're going to move on point number seven, I think what we do have been discussing is that we're going to have all these police. We patrol these police for legal guns, books, and tape recorders.

He said, I think we can capture the imagination of the black community. He said, then we can better organize the community, better organize the political electoral community power that you're always talking about, Bobby. I said, well, that's what we're going to have to do with you. And we really got that from another organization that was Angela's a year and a half. We're organized the black time out to 1966. Well, what was going on in October 1965? 400 miles. Let's go. We're Oakland. It was following the Watts riots. Watts riots in 1960. That was a group down there that we read called Community Alert Patrol. That particular organization had law books and tape recorders on them. And they would observe the police. And a couple of months, the police took their law books and tore them up, took their heads and took their tape recorders and smashed them up, drug them down town a lot. And you read about that. Because remember, you are still in law schools making this illegal

analysis of what they're going on. And you know, they just violated those people's rights and my instructor has been telling me that I need to do some research because it's probably some California Supreme Court, some California, some kind that states the people have rights to stand up to the police and out there dirty. So that we've won platform and program. We still didn't have a name for the organization. We went upstairs in the law library. The one, and we had a legal aid service. We had an employment service in the summertime. I was a director of youth jobs. I think I had 100 youth, 25 male, 75 male. That's the kind of stuff that I was involved in trying to work in the community, trying to get brought in. This is the kind of stuff. I mean, meltland people put a dump up there and 55th in Market Street. But didn't say one thing about the corner of 55th in Margaret's house. The two-story building. I was employed, which is only three blocks from my own.

The cross district. We organized a black Panther Party. It really means right out of my house. The seven streets, right? It's four. Times, you know, we didn't, now no permittance. I think somewhere in the first stage, the black Panther Party. Like we were some kind of confusing. It's a North Oakland. IBM had more blocks than California. Our club, it was now to club house. Sun DeMio, everything. We were carpets on the floor. We didn't

on the floor. You know, I mean, I can't, you know, I mean, the youth, people, and what we grew out of. So it was, you know, you found two paragraphs out of this famous document that I think we should take out a tail end of our ten points. And it went because necessary for anyone to separate or dissolve the political bond and to assume among the powers the laws of nature, nature's God and title, the humankind as my words, which impels them to ask you.

Somebody sent me a Lounge kind of freedom or that had a logo, this is the organization now that Lounge County misses, fighting cock, later that day, the joke of a panther is that if you push it in to get out of your way, it's going to come out into the corner in the first place.

What are you saying? Is this this right? He was out there running the garage there. Mr. Black Panther, man. You know, we believe in self defense. That's part of the young and forever we just... Self defense. Black Panther. What you're talking about? That's part of... That's our new organization, Black Panther. It's about it. Power in the Black community. That's not good. Brother Mark, and you were there. Tremble's found them, bro. Fire up. We walking down to where we were so happy with it. Went over...

Self defense. Got it, Corridor. Black... Guns. Guns of awesome. Love. Oh, I'm kinda gunned. We got to look it out. We're gunned. Over here. I'm gonna go. I'm gonna go. I was in the car, but we're gonna come in. I mean, really, too much. That's aero-span. I quit driving. Like... What's the problem? It's kind of working right in the community. I tried being a gay meal host at 45. The laws are found out. It's not a leak. It's not a leak. Shotgun on right here. You cannot handle it. You can call for it. Around in the corner. Not until you get... Fire. You did tonight on the plant. Was the day 5 Makes sense. It was all flow. Followpot. Yeah, we also... caught a- Do the law...

Calipra and you law at the time. Shotgun. Oh, we really got a show we trained them brothers in the black Came up with 10 rules for the black I expanded the rules to 28 We were brought up understand taking a red List that you had to read then by then Malcolm X a lot of bar because you tell my all of that all of them books. I miss no 23 about 20

I'm the political education class So here we are Find this sister came to join the black test party She passed by off the couple of battles Came by off a red big pretty bay when the game was the thing that walked off 14 rub and they ran sick but they're so strong Hey, assistant She wasn't down the street giving us a finger Next Saturday she come man, here she comes She come walking by I ran out there she's getting ready to give us it's just why you do that It's just a new black organization trying to get something going off getting off the ground I know that I said why you do that to us I don't You don't allow a woman That's not true Yes, it is I see a few brothers You don't see me that day That's it I said That's it is Who are you? Me or she

This day without investigation Nine times of the day Wrong just a moment Here's the application you can go on Come on in you can join this black Panther party She's a good lover because she's a good brother Because you know bad and you know you can get in this organization She walked in you mean I can really do I said yes She was very skeptical All right if I can join can I have a gun just like the brothers got in yes You can have a gun just like the brothers got Well I'll join Finally one night my car is out there my old car What he's talking Stacked to the simple and flat paper program He's got a law book everybody's got guns Two car loads about 11 or 12 of us One gun We're going out we're going to exercise all right We'll observe the police this day We drove down into west open That's a red light just with that On the hell we saw it I walked walk and talk I said he would Lock up look like he didn't know to make an arrest

Okay we pulled up we got all got out of the car Parked out car got out of car got out of gun down Got back to the simple platform So everybody's carrying a handgun scrapped to their side About half of it I gave him points to 10 point program everybody was Not so they needed both hands so I just take the Retail recording strip Turn on record We walked down there 50-50 people standing off the side Something walking along A lot of police out in the street had this brother you know With his hands up against the car being patched By the time we got that a police had sit down And his front open door past his side See And as we walked up off the side of the curb And we got up there and as we got him Somebody is eight o'clock a night so my say Who is these two I'm not saying Oh man These two got gun Somebody say one Somebody I'm getting out of over here And when he said that The cops still have a notice This young brother You know he's got he's got one hand on top of the car looking And he says no no no

It's not necessarily if you believe We're new organizations the Black County Party To observe these swine our community to brutalize and murder us Everybody say where we are We're working on the law and the law says we have rights and observance Well by this time as he was talking to these people here And some of them are looking He's telling them not to leave This cop we got out of his car He's looking at you He stopped talking God says You have no right to observe me He was his note According to such a telephone The state Supreme Court law Every system has rights and observance All he's talking about is duty As long as the standard reason is the way Reason is this and that's typically He was talking to this 8, 10, 10, 10, 20, 20, 20, 20 And I'll observe you whether you like it or not And some such an audience will say Well go ahead on and tell it And another Black brother says Man what kind of Negroes is these? I mean it happens in the imagination of the people And the cop says is that done? If I know what's going to happen Well I have a right here This is no use I'm off another shot On how you cannot remove a person's property from I do practice alone in my private

So stand back You can't have my guy Well I have the know of his load And you say That's good enough Black can be I mean you got people like that I don't put hands up on the car Then he just took his hand down from the cop I mean this is what was happening And he said Well That jack in the round Had to do with the fact that when we got out of the car Remember You can't have a lie around the chamber right Nobody had jacked around Back into the chamber for a long gun So when you said If I know what's loaded that's good enough A little Bobby talked Yeah I ain't got the round Then the cop looked around 40-50 feet is already 10 Including his substance Down like Clint Eastwood or somebody All of his head uniforms on Black erase

Back slapped you And his brother up here Who's been arrested Man looks on faces way Man And the cop Is jack Now you want to make a movie Back to the face of that cop And he goes And quietly equalized now This is the rest he put him in the car Because we weren't dead without no rest That's the front door Walks around He says I It's fine It's just a pain organized group And what did we want? We have facts that we can't afford to lie to on the public We have rules in black times of pun Everything is stapled all together Brothers and sisters I say New organization The organization will organize The political actor or community power etc. We have political education That's the 2 p.m. in our office Every Saturday the boom boom boom Please be there You're not necessarily have to carry guns You can work on the many other programs That's how the blacks have to party down That was an organization

That was grassroots That was an organization that put silver rights right on the cutting edge We were not going to take any From any more races With a concept That we could organize and unify The political actor or community power And unfeet some of these races As only a stepping stone towards our future liberation You see when I'm getting that Brothers people Central we were about Through the years in 1969 A particular day at the Hoover Moon Along with a lot of law enforcement agencies By that time I had organized Me and Kelton Kathleen Cleaver Ardu Jones Others Brad Hampton Bobby Russ Many others around the country While Huey was in jail So when Huey went to jail it was about 75 people in the black man's party Through it, been through it I come out of jail Me and the elders hooked up Organizing We go pack that open auditorium over And we pack it back Before the sideways in Tatecona Huey knew the birthday relics

February the 17th, 1968 Next thing you know we had 400 members After they killed Martin Luther King Shot and killed and murdered Bobby Hutt Wounded elders people put him in jail Two days after Martin Luther King was killed With those two compounding factors And after took a month for black folks To get tired of him mostly right See we didn't believe in riots We believed in organized We understood why the riots came about But after the riots Or you gonna get organized So that is where we came from You know by 1969 We had 5,000 full time black times party members Organizing over 45 chapters in branches Throughout the United States of America That's 45 different cities Free breakfast and children programs 250,000 kids was being served Breakfast five days a week Every morning in Diego Who got right up there And says The black times breakfast Children programs It's communist and smart And it's a threat to the internal security of America Why?

Because the state legislator Started with California Started allocating money Because we were making such a big hit Such a big support unity behind the people With that program across this country Then we put up presented the medical health care clinic From late 68 all the way in the 1972 Black Panther Party with other people working with us In the community community workers We tested over 3 million black folks In the United States of America 670 That is the kind of organization That they didn't like At dumb movie Got us supposedly fighting about drugs And some drug cartels If you've seen that dumb movie Pancid and Melvin People say That is not why they attacked us They attacked every black Panther Party office in the year 1969 They killed 28 of us We killed 14 of them They wounded 60 some of us We wounded 32 of them Then we turn around Listen to me now Because we had one of the baddest legal teams Stuck in this country From the east coast west coast south Where we's located Over 10,000 arrests over all those years

No more than 5% are men with the court Because most of the residents If the residents let you out If the residents let you out Because we bailed you out But of the 5% that went to court We won 95% of all our cases Two out of the United States of America But they didn't want to tell you about that The black presence of the black Millions of two white folks The same old Now they play you on this Keep crying that's going on around Like the crimes we have to stop these blacks What about the other 87% of the black community Is not committing crimes Poor people, middle class, working class many out They're not committing crimes I'm telling your brothers and sisters People human beings Like I can go on and on and on and on and on But it's our future You see I know the past but I don't live there I didn't tell you about these guns we had To go out and let's pick up guns

I don't even think you need no guns What I think you need In every African American community Particularly in the inner cities Is a network organization Of 10,000 brothers and sisters And some white friends and others Which video cams Set up Not only to watch I'm telling you That's what you need People's community power Right to the door Now we're going to videotape you know You start some brutality out there Just like riding the kids We're going to videotape you Back with both sideways and catacorn So we can catch every mark From and type over in the community That's what it's about And that's only one issue And we have to see the broader thing Bobby Seale's co-founder The Black Panther Party If you have a question or comment Or suggestions asked Is shooting in Black America programs Write us Also let us know what radio station you heard is over Views and opinions expressed on this program Are not necessarily those of this station

Or the University of Texas at Austin Until we have the opportunity again for IBA production assistant Chris Paulson And IBA technical producers Cliff Hargrove and David Alvarez I'm John A. Henson Jr Thank you for joining us today And please join us again next week Concept copies of this program Are available and may be purchased By writing in Black America cassettes Communication Building B UT Austin, Austin, Texas 78712 That in Black America cassettes Communication Building B UT Austin, Austin, Texas 78712 From the University of Texas at Austin This is the Longhorn Radio Network I'm John A. Henson Jr Join me this week on in Black America

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