From My Book; 2; Justice in Jerusalem by Gideon Hauser

riverside rodeo continues with that series from my book a weekly series presenting authors reading and commenting on their own recently published work at this time gettin hoes where former attorney general of israel and chief prosecutor of the trial of adolf eichmann dr hausler reads from his book justice in jerusalem published by harper and row and discusses the trial and its aftermath at our orbit the killing go for jews and the german rider and advantage of their property officially in order to perform well three directed by going to hide if they had on their it security office it red coat and supplementing that boss assigned to you on january twenty four nineteen thirty nine the rain the jewish problem pre possibly satisfactory solution for immigration and immigration in accordance with circumstances they needed the time

i hereby commission you to make all necessary preparation in the organization no material and financial sense to bring about a total solution of the jewish problem in the german sphere of influence in europe or other government agencies are concerned they are to be called upon to cropper it for their commission you to submit to me as soon as possible and are all then concerning the organizational substandard and financial measures for basic you shoot although the sad final solution all the jewish problem unquote there are many significant features in this narrative that will give your there again spoke when jewish mothers

through during it was only natural to place of all officially in high tree stands for years the jews had been and is the main idea though now very powerful and soon to be appointed protector of what he knew and more radio which would give him enormous edition and bars the additional work would be done in any case actually buys fake foreign vote come but then department's chief unquote are both i sure my name is gideon hausner nineteen sixty i was appointed by the government of israel my government to be the attorney general of missouri it felt to me and this capacity to prosecute

and of ice run before that is the corporate to restore the passage i just read to you is a passage for alma chapter seven of the book i wrote on the subject of which is called justice in jerusalem which was published by harper and you know well and that i love to travel door it was were chink mosley went on for that in the course of the proceedings about with the passage of time or the things got some with didn't we are living in a very dynamic parents second debate because of the many details which were brought up and the proceedings i think that the whole pattern was somewhat lost and i wanted to restore a decade before is thirdly i think that

this is a rigorous which we have to keep thrashing the minds of many the glittery hatred racial prejudices are more today they're living this year sony the question what form they'll assume on their accommodating circumstance inmates uniform of the destruction camps and the wholesale killing finish that is why i wanted to remind you of the book that the report again and bring it back to them although well that isn't it very easy chapter of history but it didn't have to happen in this generation and civilized you and i think we just cannot afford yet to forget maybe things will afford

to forget under semitism if a non jews who keep remembering well of course and the trial of the personal feist man assumed that very important proportions because it was the man you were drying and the men whose lives you're exposing and those acts is we were bringing to light about actually threw him we were looking on the rack or this poor tragic occurrence so although he personally was a fascinating important to me as this prosecutor it wasn't even as it personally and as as a human being can only you was uppermost in our minds of those people he was born in port you know iaea or

who was aware after i got a hold of his first statements to the investigation officer that he is following the old line off many other nazi criminals who didn't have the courage to stand up in court and admit they're good very few had to be in that carriage most of them had not so in orders some of our oath to mr ace the enormous most off their deed and today said that due to do the year criminality are off their lifetime and they were trying to buy a small and lies and go and distortions it too high at least part of the nose any is the us

as you follow the same line it was not too difficult to expose it later on presses image so on my own feeling corps here is a job i have to do it and i did it for the rest of my i found it and burdensome that there's possibility was great you see actually i was aware of the time the door who draws going there wanted in jerusalem where were we were crying icon and the other in two words public opinion which was watching this closely to hundreds of correspondence i would the preceding say a televised tour of the war and they worked actually youre and trying to see how we would stand there and how we will net account our sense

of this i was well aware of all this that every word i say every moment i make is a record it and commented upon them as they get a new hundreds of newspapers and in very many countries on the other hand the additional difficulty was the material you have to deal with this was not just an ordinary cry which you have to grow even if it's difficult to say too the wooden more drill or eight for robbery taylor you you have to or dig into something and they hear me you had two on earth david personal tragedy of six million human beings third of my nation

though it share it although its historic bosses might instantly lot of suffering had never suffered such a crushing blow off chance so even there interviewing the victims since it was a very romantic experience and to my sisters and i really had to steel ourselves in order to be able to face all this and again it had to be done if i'm a code into the station after icahn was detained in our thinking i'm broke over preserve our thinking not a lot of the opening of the security fence bang theory

in the composition of the security forces will know there are members from east and west and from the arab countries from being a drug law firms it is a cross section or fourth of the war and now even there ago and there were some counties switch the pre order our attic all that were unanimous that i should i must and draws some work that it is unthinkable to let him go scot free and the only question was whether he ought to be tried in his worry it was at the time or at all whether some other country should dry know it was very significant and from the point of view off might make her argument on the question of jurisdiction over or perhaps even the size safe but that no other company which could have to name

is in extradition did actually claims as a nanny many foreign countries including germany the leading statesman in reply to questions put to them on their arm i'm depressed or in parliaments said that we recognize as there is for iraq dry ice sheet and that's why we are not going to ask if he should be delivered to us this was very action as i say of germany this was their reaction all fun for the question was raised because your sins committed lots of offenses there is another effect you offended against the laws and systems of sixteen different countries each of which could have asked to be given the right to drive and i've one including the eastern bloc countries like a soviet russia and poland and czechoslovakia and hungary but even they admit that that it would be proper for us for is around four the year he warned country of my shoes

victims to tour unfortunately the record of the year for us or for cruz in germany is not so good i can only speculate of course what would've happened yeah but perhaps there is a basis for this speculation if or four i got a knock off let us set in the wake of the trial including thousands of letters from germany had sent very many air correspondents expressing there sympathy with us and also there's a disaffection device run was not thrive in germany because they said it would have never brought up out of the whole picture off his deeds and there's some how many agencies in presently germany would have been spared exposure avid being had there is another effect as a very simple draws in germany

including even the big from fort bragg where they put the year even responsible for indian ocean a scam with the year but into private even this fated to achieve the educational in results which were hopeful at because in present day germany there are er on the bench and very often on the jury people who were you know very well that it if a very serious research is conducted into their own boss as some on the walls some chapters might be the skull it often happens that the accused in court askance at the judges and

jurors were pried had you going to dry us of my baby and other way around so i think even from this point of view it was a more fortunate that feature of the age he was actually more clever than the jews who prided themselves to be close because they survive by their brains you know at its effect of history our ability outwitted them at their own game he had a he managed somehow to make them believe at that is david maintain order and if they obey the orders of the occupation authorities if they go and working didn't do workshops and factories nothing wrong with really happened to them and if they were pointing to this or that example of the suffering of another community he was always ready with hundreds of excuses saying that i hadn't heard the jews them says richter remained barricaded

and maintain or there or there was a curator hat the oman there on the spot and he always worked were so interesting yours this late great interest in jewish cultural affairs know if you want to lead to capture the heart of the jew you just have to show this today in his school in his synagogue in his library then you think you are in spring it if you are if you come as close as that and he went head toward the rubble off studying some hebrew end and we're standing by heart some pages from books on zionism and jewish history which used to call it by heart the jewish leaders and a city bus of them to the extent that they thought this can't be our the mass murder of torment for all the nazi leaders display some interest maybe we should we should we listen to work his trip to see especially as there were other circumstances which made them

out i would say year and made him power of us at the door of the band and the juice of a unique here a second via the success of hitler's armies had a and mesmerizing and paralyzing effect on occupied europe established countries couldn't stand up for more than four or five days and typically looked that people exposed to all this propaganda for years who were on the top of that he started and humiliated in the bass that said there is really no way out for them and if there is any hope to survive the war and the hope lies in keeping quiet for a while how does one speaker for six million that there was no

precedent that guide me nor could there have been it was the first feminist theory that such a crime of being perpetrated and the first time that a tribunal had been established to try it was also the first time that the jew would face one of the speed to suppress a single for all the arrows of their this persian the jews could either flee from a persecutor begging for mercy or tried to bribe know as a result of the resurgence of the state of israel there would be a trial and they persecute there would face justice but what justice could be exacted for a third of the nation portrait and extinguished i kept asking myself what the victims themselves with him wished we'd do say on their behalf and they had the power to brief me as

their spokesman now the girls were reversed and to persecute it had become the prosecutors i knew that the game on for a confucian have a song that in many of the lost messages that greeted by the death avenge our blood was scribbled on scraps of paper administering the machines of the helmet cam and scratched with fingernails on the walls of the gas chambers and my gun but there was no way to implement this in the literal sense the historic vengeance was perhaps true survivor that said after that tremendous extremes to which the greatest military power on earth had gone you have as the store so after march heart searching i felt that they should interpret the last will and testament of the departed as it the mind to set a course for

scribble is fairness ford they had all been put to death though innocent of any crime that their chief mother should now receive a meticulously just drive it was the only way it would be truly gauge this i thought it would be very a vindication of their memory i saw no other way oh wait i'm not being quick on iran's book in my work that the locals aren't i was on set and very few did by a scholar of standing at a jurist of reno in the water and brought to say was my assistant along the persecution team in jerusalem his name is dr jacob robinson he's the coordinator of research on the jewish

holocaust and it was legal advisor to or are there inclusion of the united nations an expert from the national review today one are in smoke refuted it page by page sure that to be your arm on their main pieces on me the nephew of evil because this is one of the main things is that it was banned all or even is that as ben oh i think she's wrong on that idea if you declare also on her keys is the fit and the victims were somehow to blame or that they're really there's an award to work cooperatively with the national parties i think she was wrong on that she accuse the us the persecution of having healthy a short drive well she was wrong on that to even ice ryan's defense counsel said it is iran and injury that it was no sure that it wasn't just dr and that was the preponderance you'll of

such object if people all for competence who reviewed the dryer as objective observers like professor pope about those who did it for the international commission of jurists a professor off university of athens unlike julia stone knew professor at the university of sydney and many others ah oh hon aren't to have a preconceived idea about punishment about the holocaust jews about the journalists which she tried today to prove and care wherever the facts did not conform to her jesus says she made an informed by ear just distorting that's all i have to say i would prefer you to dr artisans will worry a terrace at the pieces sit they each might think that ryan was it to a large extent an eye opener because if people didn't realize the extent of this whole thing just by

the context of numbers if you speak of six million people who worked in visual eye six million victims if you speak off a third of the nation these are statistics but when you bring in great facts about the fate of a particular jewish couldn't you're going to pay you impose their reality or a vengeance at the same time you make a concrete and that is why there was this impact in this response there but that i think victory in must not let this turn into a passing episode that there was this year revive interest and now we turn to other methods and i for one thing and that's one of the reasons is that for your arrow that look that we have to keep going back there goodman of the reasons in many other countries of surgery were eighth most people worked and does their asian prejudice integrity or obsolete from the beginning of the last chapter of the reflection of my

reflections the years after that three years after the final disposal of the case of the attorney general office services eye for months and the damage can be made to sum up its consequences the immediate result of the drought was to compare the war to confront its yesterday's a new human nature finds it painful to look unflinching plea at the horse of the boss it is very quick to forget it is astonishing how men tend to gloss over the most obvious lessons of their lives and banning them says to repeat their own mistakes this is where that happened it would be a boring chapter fifty years what good really good to remember many people say they found it convenient to neighborhood not says i'm an atavistic outburst from some hidden straight

from all they charge to believe that the mess had been successfully subdued and the demand for money could and went down over their weak spots to prevent further eruptions thus that last was left to bury is that and the world lived happily free to enjoy the present the jerusalem prime minister in the nation's shepherd this complacency is the rum accomando the pinch the disclosures as the un for that wrecked many bubbles are a noticeable repercussions in germany and they weren't at work there was a sharp impact on the jewish see the chapter of history and for that in jerusalem is the sink in time and decisive in importance but there's already i fear

fading from the minds of many is go may i hope bridge the gap you've been listening to gideon hausner former attorney general of israel and chief prosecutor at the trial of adolf eichmann reading from his book justice in jerusalem recently published by harper and row and discussing the trial and its aftermath at present mr posner is in private law practice in jerusalem is also an advocate and lecturer of commercial law at hebrew university and served as legal consultant and adviser to national institutions and legal firms in the fall of nineteen sixty five he was elected a member of the knesset on the ticket of the independent liberal party we invite you to join us each week at this time four from my book presenting prominent authors reading from their own recently published work next week columnist john g ford reads from his incident at exeter unidentified

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