Late, Late Lecture; Moses Hadas - The Ancient Ideal And Its Survival

The thing I wanted to talk about is humanism, which is a very slippery word. Anybody that says he's going to talk about humanism should be suspect, at least for sloppy thinking, perhaps even disingenuousness. Because the word means so many things, it means a kind of rampant secularism on the one hand, on the other hand we do have Christian humanists, very great ones, very sincere ones, it means a bias against science, means a bias in favor of science. Well we know that all of the words which denote a kind of commitment to a way of life always fought about, take even the word mock grecian we think we know what it means but russians think they know it means they talk about the mock mission it was quite easy to look up the dictionary and pseudonyms rule of the people and try to determine which of us comes nearest to that definition curious thing about humanism

is that it doesn't affect me in all of these things are quite legitimate a way that would start it is quite interesting because i had always thought that went back to the ancients course it doesn't at modern words and it came into use in the italian universities before the renaissance these investors were divided up the faculty is that that law faculty of philosophy and so on and have the men wanted to study a language and literature audie didn't belong to an effective and he was said to be studying literally money or ace your humanity is humane letters and of course the only live show and language it was with that in actual fact was the greek and latin that time of course modern lift joseph sense developed in a dignified enough to do was studying that was not always the case we still have the traditions

of humanist studies the humanities in that same time for example of secondary schools on the continent which goes for the classics of go along with it all my opposite number in the skies you do this do would be called professor of humanity still has called the two things about it is for studying this concern would seem to be important juan and probably the most important is that it's a nonprofessional is what our ancestor of a liberal arts idea is you're studying something which is not conceivably make a living many as possible to make a living out of it it ceases being amended so close we're living by teaching that's one day as a distinct bias in favor of ancient books so that in columbia college in many many other colleges if you have a costly building amenities which would build monuments of literature from the beginning of

western civilization took a day you'd find usually at least half of them belong to antiquity still spill out my humanity is stand for many things in his letter shows what comes out of liquor to a major test of those cuts going to quit namely greece goes mainly fifth centuries but instead century issue did not have an orthodoxy he did not however of relation anything like ten commandments yet many strands of thought going along together and a man who's looking for corroboration for his ideas from glasgow and take what they could find a lot of the all it wouldn't of course christianity with notions of soon and grace and so forth to have that goes with plato it covered myriad aspiration toward an ideal thats up serving humanity and some malaysian to something more than human and the

notion that the body and the soul or distinct entities ended so do men to suppress the body and pharaohs soul on the other hand you can have the upright stalk man the measure idea above formulated by a precarious notable sufis in the fifth century who did say men has a mission of all things this was the kind of humanism which fire people's imagination in the period we called humanists sixteenth century a boat and its a kind which has been meaningful in modern european until this day and i tell you that this is the time i'm going to talk about without evangelism without trying to convert anybody do anything away from anything but make clear the different part of fuel which has been meaningful in the intellectual history of europe i think that that starts with one statement at the beginning since i am i'm a science

building when you say a man is a measure of all things which suggests the relatives and wrote was you suggest that true re examine everything every day and see whether it still works as a dozen were rejected which is what this office said this would imply and has been set to imply quite often a kind of an atheist i insist that does not because the same protector of sue said man is a measure of all things continued and said of the gods do not speak because i cannot know all that i can those one side of the equation that would not talk about that does not mean that they're the circuit does not exist and i may say that the development of that kind of thinking so far from being atheists has led to some of the noblest lofty as theological thought in the world

a kind of thinking which says that any credit patients about duty as blasphemous this is wrong for a man to say god is good as it is for him to say god is evil because who asked him that is any statement that you made it implies that you are putting yourself out of the way watching what god is doing and saying that's very good i'll sing into it you press button now i'm not saying our page of women that this is what i am necessarily teaching them explaining there's a school of arabic philosophers call them with a column on which held that very firmly it may be the doctrine and the book of job creation to believe that it is to put it briefly we joke friends are so sure of ourselves we know the tune to make four we watched the divide

operations went on to make four we say fine why should we submit to improve why not this is not our business we've only got the season when we're going to hit four and the other's completed beyond our control and they probably get to the height of this kind of thinking and spinoza who says you should love doug hughes god intoxicated man was no expectation of being loved in return thing that we like to think of a friend behind the phenomenon just simply does not exist i think that that humanism of this sort of men the michigan it's going to start at the very beginning of greek so it continues in a strong stream until the end of antiquities in rome in christianity then is ground until a trickle ashes members you prefer that

image and this out again in the flame in the fifteenth and sixteenth century and it's controlled outlook on things until this day not for the worshippers shared i think that would be a lot troubles is that we trap wretch too follow one system pay lip service to another crucial feeling is that many of the psychiatrist live on the cotton well this thing started as i say with the beginning and i would say that from homeowners is is to and when to that the koreans who had a very bad press because both christianity in rome were against them to talk about it lee drinking the american tomorrow amid the village is not really set of a social club the show it's a continuation of doctrines of epicurean news i'm conducting

himself is to vote for the press are implicit in home of post article don't nominate you remember and that you know that achilles as a great hero and the iliad and you know also few rebel militia thoughtfulness achilles is an extremely bad citizen he's unlike any other hero that we have a lot of leverage because he starts out by refusing to fight in town hall because his ego has been the front and he sulks he praised his own search of blues and his own glory when his closest comrades are in trouble we won't help them this is an absolute top session with evil doesn't see monsters inc is in fact monsters this obsession nobody's visiting against it he seemed to be a good man and people are grateful to live having somehow extended the horizons of what is possible for humanity he began to look a little

closer and you'll find one line which is repeated two or three times in the iliad when the father sending his son out into the world golson to remember this it's available in ellen it's important to remember the london regional translated irs doing that you pick up on him and that alone always excel always be ahead of everybody else this is the key the conviction which a young man went out into the world of his job is to be an umble want whatever he's going to have to be a warrior we can understand how but it is back there are a couple coats would still apply now it's often said the film is a bible of the greeks this is wrong you didn't have that kind of authority when it was all over the mainstay of education in that historic period drama come full of historic period and repeatedly anything new about

heartless was beginning his education the main substance education and i would suggest that boy is brought up on this doctrine would accept this compulsion to be known belong well there's little question as you accept the facts of the multiplication table you don't go and check them this is part of what is accepted and i think if you look at what the how the greeks operated in the classical period you noticing strange things what scholars called agnes to killing the element of rivalry on that play for example you didn't just a downright a play you enter the play and that competition really did it and you got first second or third place and you got first place this was terrific catcher name in the books and on a monument you didn't get much else incident just as when you won in the game if you've got a crown all while olive oil plus live or some other vegetable have them under very much but the

name is session was the most important thing i've always been interested in the fact that sheep kinds that you'd expect about a fervent instance both awful were all always signed the name is important and although the whole idea as marriage to credit one i think that perhaps the greatest of all things that the greeks did which is democracy would again have been impossible without this absolute edge to set yourself and be number one didn't have representative mark sever but it was a number that plays in everybody couldn't most did speak out so that you have this terrific edge we associate with a heroic ideal the chivalry but then our bourgeois point he sued who is next in tampa home amazing be contemporary with a pleasant call a glorified to work and is against riding around

and pushing people around there's a wonderful passage of the very beginning he says there are two kinds of strife in the world there is one of the bad causes quarrels cause of bloodshed so there's a good plan which when a man knows you will love and this is the kind that improve everything we've got a major abundant he goes on to say how he says party and his partial arrivals part point rivals poet beggar rivals beggar all of these professions radio partlow point or better you're about apartheid make better parts you a better beggar better point because it is so important for you to assert your ego yourself and i mention that if you look at this entire sweep of outspoken you'll find it's a strenuous does that to record her name among the greeks continues until the roman period where you begin to get an anonymity amanda's swallowed up

in the larger cause this loose again in the human spirit where people again assigning things writing books about the dignity of men wounded on writing biographies again which they did do like mercenary one man like michelangelo doesn't sign his name with legacy sons' in a way that at least it's clear namely the individual comes up very strong actually now one could say that so for us the end of the fifth century which gaudio off our literature and philosophy and canons of cotton eric nielsen civilization is built on it's built also firmly that we don't even recognize it is alien elements of probable walton woo about civilization they have been made because of the succession to vary it a little bit is that search word something's very amusing you get attention play like the trojan women as heck of those represent large have to fund

all things gone wrong some letters consoling her and saying in effect in all of these terrible things that happen you wouldn't get a name in the paper and getting your name in the papers apparently enough consultation all these terrible things and makes it all of law it was get back a homerun and go down quickly in succession next thing after wilma would be the tragic points and i'd like to say a little bit about them and the two things that are involved in homo as the gods and the heroes those gods of their troubles critics of the turn of the century thought don't merely decorative and you could leave them open because you can't go out to pay on every page and they function our first question is how quickly got so prominent in the action can you talk about the self until heroes is setting himself after all these shouldn't be a marionette being pulled by water

and this is a great question because the point of the iliad the reason that people have hung onto it for so long is this picture of the eureka ideal all about heroic ideal of men being pushed by a liar called lola and the answer that i think is interesting you'll have to forgive me for being very short on this and therefore being unfair loan was a complicated point with ominous trends i think the essential one and the one that continued in the sophocles in europe and is the concept of a low twitch fits in with this man the mission that god's world of gods as a woman in the two separate quite separate the two series the gods attend to their sphere of comfort to know that there that people weren't going man can only attend to their ship and the two down in effect and affect the gods alike man

having the same parents except that they're more beautiful and so on the same emotions only makes a difference where it's because they fear they live forever you find god's in the iliad capable of saying when they attempted to intervene why should we bother with these creatures of a day we won't sell our hands with them les paul findley the other plant life and leaves them to their data devices all of this explains a complete view of life the tragic you what it's meant to do is to do the best that he can comment by his lights if then he has tripped up as humanity frequently his trip to us forces not only out of his control bit of a miscalculation this is what tragedies a man is doing the best he can but the only light that he has because he has not got her evolution and in fact the gods aren't interested in setting up a patent for mankind that pattern is different when you get to the sophisticated

epicureans are saying the same thing they say in so many words what's the use of being a god if you have to keep book on men all the time so the gods an epicurean system off having a picnic all are and that experience has no morality of course they're hiv but it's a calculus morality interest would take for example if you have a big bottle of gin sitting here and well why should i should i not drink that bottle of gin i do it on top of my arithmetic is good a figure out of anger over will be wisdom a pleasure and therefore framed by knew there'd be no hangover be mostly reason why should not and therefore these epicurean ch moon's goal was anorexic be a troubled and move identified man's in this happen this happen this is the absence of pain actually what were they doing in this garden were eating drinking and

being married in fact is that they will mostly during geometry because they found out the geometry is the most pleasure with elise tangle of so that on their calculus of hedonism this was a good thing to do i think it's interesting to look at the years ago that's now but the heroes that heroes is something very interesting in that greeks you you see that apologies to a canadian hero into that list of fun and finished it isn't and the principal character in the work of imagination like a novel or a play it would just technical it means a man who by his career doing was suffering as in the occult which is to say that i have a little shrine a piece of little something has put up as his memorial and on his name day his annual day and full flutter a little wiener something has offered that he might be invoked in prayer in the realm in which huge concern an anthropologist know

about this this is a good year original is simply means a ghost the offerings saw device to live a ghost because you'd be inclined to come back in here to show you keep the peace that word and you have carol things another quarterly for example you've got in egypt what do you do that did there were human if you can afford it you put in a spare hid out of stone case a finished it should carry you can afford it you couldn't even the second sped of stone faced finished it to deteriorate in the passage of time have you done all that you seal it up is very clear this is for the use of their deceased and nothing else we're doing precious love but there it is greeks you was like are celebrating lincoln's birthday

washington this day we're not going to do a favored lincoln washington that don't really need it were going to say that that ourselves because we are remembering certain quality a certain virtue is good for us to keep in mind a particular occasion for keeping in mind i think the great differences between the christian notion of the saint which is very closely parallel except along very different st attains sainthood by isolating himself to an ideal outset of humanity by shaking or humanity the more he shakes off the flesh to assimilate himself to an ideal that above the human the closely approaches through its bid to an easel is very good and the curious thing about our great heroes and this is something was looking at again judd when i'm not trying to sell it to just look at it but the greek heroes so often such a rough character model is achilles and so he couldn't tolerate him

as a house maid at all but the thing is if you want certain qualities which is god of those qualities and rich life somehow then you cannot take your kind and split it in two and say we would like achilles over to huge pallets loaded like a plaster saint on this because men don't come that way and the price of rwanda's the other sophocles in particular almost all trials to see whether people who are neuro eco as heroes were infected heroes and the first of these plays which every disposal by seemed to me to be available and very useful list one is a tax and the critics all tried to save a direction thing is awful places and trying to save a genetics ajax broke in the play intended to be shown the surge mean to his wife mean to the chorus of depends upon an absolutely obsessed with

self financing ill very unpleasant man we've noticed there's about him when he left homeless father told him praying to the gods and you will have a career and he said hello woodson that affect everybody can do that i'm going to have a great career without praying there's a magnificent scene when he is fighting in the iliad is consistent and the sun setting the documents he's fighting hard and deal with prayer for the first time he said seuss i don't need any help i can take care of myself ability to do anything just let me have a little light so i can see what i'm doing a lot like a fight but nothing go to stand up and say this is a tax this tough it was obsessed but ajax is the only man in the greek army that can hold back your throat what we want us little people listened and sophocles is always the little people most in line the colors unless the characters it's a great character who goes out and line breaks his neck doing it but he's done something

for you i can't take and that we shouldn't do it and taken it does define think of the rest of the one woman had the kurdish good it enlarges the horizon there is a jenks you need him because he alone can do things which are not going to get managed to hold a wool coat along the bank and get cash from milk coached and you just have to decide you're going to take those tough if you have to pay for it or not don't expect him to be upset of humanity what the hero's doing is emphasizing the best qualities of humanity escape blow he gets into trouble because things beyond its calculations they've kept them up you see this beyond the calculation it's almost like this is an unreasonable thing in these terms as almost like gravity let sale on electricity no question within his piece of wire capuano

says no touch well you touch id expect to stay in your fingers are getting really ought to be children it doesn't seem to be an adequate right punishment for juveniles sign but it has enough current you are chilled if ceo if you walk down something is falling down the piano something out of the thirteenth floor are you don't stop to argue with the justice of gravity and so in a way that you can with the whole question of the motivation and so on was not for you this is i know you've probably heard about it because you can't really knows i see this the system goes on the softest system adapted to this degree they again have had a bad press because all of our books written by people on the other side who actually women are late on their stuff in these and so on what's office has said that right direction look at every human institutions well i'll start at the beginning of the cycle is a

scientific man who started the properties that doctor he cut people up and he says you know what all of these people belong to the same species so when you cut them up you can't tell other greeks of barbarians slave of three kings the commoners the species is the same because he says they'll take full life and they produce sounds like this with is to carry out the full it must be the same species this was taken over by the surface what what the party says that dvd changes the differentiation between men which he recognized a lot lot of native fishes these all mothers of convention there is a man who's a keen another is a common and this is the way it should be because it is on the individual and then one person asked will further questions is the doctor gestures business decide these things but this office in particular one as a poem frightened to fall into dental in the present

century reduce this to the system when you see what a precocious amend the measure is coming out of he says you take every human institution and you look at it and you decide is this the way it is because of native fishes or is it the way it is because of moments all convention if it's the way it is because of the nature that isn't anything we can do about it except accommodate ourselves to it if it is a way just by convention it was created by people for the sake of expediency and the fallen has a long experience not only may but must be changed for example this week in the play zero days we take the position of women move always assumed that they're inferior all barbarians farmers that is we've always assumed that they're inferior what does this vary our director brian is it a question of nature if so there's nothing to be done

about it at his convention and something should be done about it can be done about that's what the media's about she's a woman and the foreigner and because we've ignored that she gets pushed into their politics botha's is illegitimate why this was the state of the legitimacy of nato convention lawn you know that this seems so simple we begin to realize what plato and aristotle both very conservative talk about certain people being slaves by nature what they insisted on those by nature justify the whole institution slavery they didn't put in by nature and the sufis come along so as the famous mentally ill plato and then socrates a bolt said probably it's apocryphal story but it might well have been true they've got up each morning in office three precious thanksgiving one i'm a greek and not above darien to honor men another woman three and three another slave because the other things are different

not only in a different diction novel about a convention we might decide convention of that woman should not own property owed have been a certain discipline five which is seeing ourselves this is how uncomfortable this would meet every conservative my father doctors hatfield far as any reason under the sun that probably right and proper why should definitely you after examiners ever dared say what the situation is on these things which have to do with convention this is an extremely uncomfortable doctrine if you can recognize tradition as listeners that you are are the victim's relatives and you have to re examine every day well this line which i could go on great length illustrating continue jesus you get down to that the koreans oahu because they insisted on this nato convention that covenant law and insisted on a materialistic universe

what epicurus was concerned with was to free men as he said from fear of fear of this hero and so in order to everything the whole world is made of atoms the void and nothing else this is the formula that void materials and everything is created by a fortuitous content a nation of atoms at a mouthful but i thought that's god's will also more refined and there is no problems there's no reason to fear death because that'll just this indestructible the last throw them to take new combinations of this is the rationalizing making sophisticated doctors engineers implicit long online here and i mention it because it is very different from one strand of european

flow into why christians need and see what the room and he both of whom in both of which the strange problem for essential and patriotism and religion were not very far apart could not tolerate this kind of belief and it became anathema to something else that happens when roman comes in the first off as an aroma just as much obsessed with self as the greeks were to nominate you may have read that say it starts at a monument to my etiquette and you shut believe me a monument more during the bronze a lot for a man they will go through the ages all my shoulder the beginning ph because the wings sprouting an actual fly through as is this is really a repulsive and mosul but the fact that usually has continued but stopped i think the comparison between the phillies this great hero to

make it happen is roman hero doing anything that would put forth achilles is obsessed with soul and praise collusion and so the self can come up and this is a slave of death is an instrument of divine providence it is his duty to follow grown it is is do get himself to be a model for succeeding room before columbine had children is almost true andy you fulfill yourself in a room and by carrying out this great mission and you yourself don't matter this is your complete fulfillment as is your duty and he is himself was the model of constantly get tired on that again tempted to stop the center fluid day goes a good cook and he is tired but he has to go on and when he goes on and shop saw school boys by leading bedouin the

likud's just then always at the point uses that the pet peeves pious in the us because he knows his duty as far different from those other notion as it can possibly be here is the european hero i mean the man who is carrying out this charge and what rome was going to do you see the end in the grief camp so you i hope no leaks billion dollar loan to the end of the fifth book of facilities where the cd and say we're running and i'm not going to have better than anybody else would happen to be stronger than the way of nature that strong to rule that weak and when you become stronger we will you'll rue lesson we won't complain they just threaten to think all this is the nature of men we think it's also the nature of god's nobody supposed to the counter well they don't want to be uncaring the white men to miss that we don't we're just instruments to bring light to the dark corners of this police the world

and so on they're different things and you can say can comment and then there's actual physical evidence that we do have lots of stones and books and whatnot they're just many fewer names known and the names become few and fewer us and a literate greek who built the parthenon he could tell you at once the name of the architect name of the artist and so on or who built a great cathedral which is also very complicated were caught with more complicated and third they no i mean this was a service to go to college whether individual doesn't matter one of my special studies are those the works of apocryphal published editions of of several of the senate they have one thing that interests me take the two books of the maccabees they're both written by hellenistic standards of historiography one of them the first night of days when those who have them all in great

first maccabees is a translation of the semitic original avenue brewer may there's a fine book completely anonymous second maccabees says in his practice and it's an epitome along or by jason also i really his name is aaron no greek is going to write a book not put a name on it two different views i mean the one you were what you gotta get said is what the bulky particulars of apocalyptic works dealing with eschatology you to submit yourself across as very much better with the greeks didn't submerge themselves in this is one very very different and that these embryos that's cotton cotton down there that people weren't working remotely of the oil and voted no spoiler having the time we even have some secular poets who have to give them names just artificial names to identify them because that that didn't put their names

the change which comes in and as llewelyn as character oh most striking things will aside from all other changes a sudden emergence and anonymity this insistence on signing it it even works in theology instead of talking about salvation of groups and so forth that individual salvation people around a lot on the dignity of man everybody would do save lives than at the chilean an autobiography and would've thought of writing an autobiography the out the greatest piece of arrogance and here's what you like so this this thing goes on i think i would like myself to mention some of the humanist books in which in which this comes about my do not only an activity really shocking why ceo nick is telling the truth about the political nature of men but he's

telling it purely on human grown <unk> talk about religion he says it's good for the prince to appear to be good for the prince to keep it you must get sort of difficult to break it the eye of this is making early golden age the even utopia the saint saint don't want to please observed this beatification of it a man of what did i sing the only truly color man i'm sure whose current i'm sure because he himself suffered modern which takes a lot of knowing and in his utopia he'll run out of town in a body who speaks against anybody else's religion auden been preaching health of this is amanda cole really current focus is one standard for himself it's not just indifferent and that is a controlled society but it's a sad day the whole aim of the controllers of policing function to release individuals for

his own self improvement of the highest degree montagne one piece called on the cannibals and he's describing the way the cannibals live and how different their ideals often those in europe and at the end he has several good things of the cannibal to do for example they don't live in the poet for lying they call everybody a fraction of everybody else and boy it this was as a fraction of somebody else may have a lot of good things about the many winds up and saying what's the good of all that i don't wear pants but i think this is enormous and fishes with a vengeance we will not accept the notion because we have done what we have taken things which are anomalous at is wearing pants an exalted into fixes to make sure the men wear pants man who doesn't wear pants were killed or total what can he said us you can't say anything to those who use of different species usually

eyeing this and perhaps the most shocking to the modern reader remotely like full as rabalais in his little utopian he's got that gift led light for fry fried wonderful character is going to be rewarded so he is given a three day of monster and this is described in detail and you wonder what the system of the description is it's very easy to see the system to stop for a minute think what monastery july fifth place was built in a sort of hexagonal shape of the largest parcel number of windows not bank and coding and gloomy winter in second place no monks and nuns young men and young women and sort of finishing school for all people of education well it well educated and they wore the most beautiful possible clothes silks brightly colored boots

on in fact these ladies with similar to the government every day what colors though areas of the government could match the next so that would look all morning as those absolutely no clock in the place clocks are absolutely forbidden by the motto do what thou wilt because as opposed to there's a lawyer it's pushed to the poor poverty and let's run out of oil in the us are closing it done or some jewish lives possible supposed to access to ten m and women together and going to be at in stereo hours overtime to do this on the show and almost carry special forces out with at all now suppose and what the work for john hawkes is of young men and young women will go hand in hand of a monster in rural nevada laughter i suppose a group comes along and he catches one of the friars

tracking system which in and saying which route you know as it's shocking lances that if this is what well bred will fit well educated people do and they all seem to do it then you got to change our notions of what is shocking because this is again rabalais was a friar to the end of his time he was the vote then it took to say this very often we have documents showing he was released to function but this this is the new weekend but this is no on the measure don't know what is this isn't fall for dissolute miss or anything else that when you are you the approaching you'll go usa will go not by conforming to extra humans spend their investigation chua human by the best license

to have and this is not putting the most shocking possible way because i think this is the implication of what's being said is that none of the monks makes them now what about a lot about it is as the admissions office is dennis were probably these are good people they're well educated people are all right and this is the way all right people behave that is alright alright people to behave this way and you just got to change you wrote about it because men as a measure and as montagne says all his very shocking line he says i'm a catholic by the same title about terry gordy version of that awful i mean i've gotten so choose really they say he's a catholic by the same title is a berry gordy and it lives somewhere else you know this is this in itself is shocking and it goes on to say that the time people need a job you know

what he says is it takes a great deal of assurance that your eight you're going to buy an enabler for not agreeing with you people who been to other people always writers people of additional you've got to be really very sure that you're on the inside track we've got winning other people for not agreeing with election and i think that this impulse this release has continued with ups and balance until our own time i think the dredging the obsession with the name is maybe sick would characterize as i re read optimist about what we're doing and supposed to look back always to the fifth century which are not a natural habitat maybe and the big wonderful things i don't believe has been the concentration of genius level and i'm supposed to the poet's going on day one i think that our center has done quite as much quite a different way not question

repeating imitating even emulating but it's it's it's done it i think that voters say relates and i'll finish as i started with an apology saying that there's something worth looking at here i think and it's you know examined especially global development and i would also insist this and here i am being a little bit pedantic and skull alone prepping love that warm because so many people said other was that when you looked that protect those men is an issue of things you're not dealing with the village atheist this is not the man who you know is just crippling for the sake of their business you're dealing with a business put potentially profoundly religious person that potential is doing as i said before the same

thing that job did them with a telemundo hit and they're far as doctor i don't think they're concerned like you reflect a little bit on this notion which i'm not saying that you should throw it handles the nation to some very nice tunes but when you get to this level well any provocation about it it is a sign of arrogance of spirit seems to me you're good and profound aloft a kind of belief of asian affairs in iran i got a little more room of a wonderful little book about prayer i'm a one line out of that book was published nearly twenty years at least that when i read it and he's talking about prayer and he is aware of the arrogance in some people's minds and i still remember

one line days of prayer is good for you the wave sweeping is good for growing but i think the other at issue the shift the g forces that have motion to bob looks day this nation to do as natalie reliant on the nada three one and go in those marks in those freud and if you stop and reflect on all three of the years on that basis whether it's for our goal of that small employers below they'll all continuing just precisely where the fifth century lift off the discussion is going on with certain bases always men the measures were frightened looking this is where boxes looking now as far as the marchers doctrine oh i think paul mann is economics oh awful

i mean this is one of the most overrated people thought economics are concerned in the world if politics probably to a bed his impulses none of us can help of maryland his impulses within posts a profit he so a great suffering degradation and the factors of this term in europe and he wanted to do something about it who cannot that so what happens really where they promise us afterwards as quell quite a different story this is what makes me believe in the original sin in the senate and augusta and this is making people do this but i would like very much to take marja brought into two the bbc sound has the caregivers impulses are beyond question to me and i think is impractical like a prophet is but what a bug and then a particularly has his descendants of exploited

and wrong way which is c again it starts out with a rough language about the establishment because the establishment is what is responsible and it is always an odd using an allegorical interpretation by saying that what he is doing is saying look you've had people you've confounded faces and know much and what you said is that totally devoted americans and and end slavery and these are the sounds of ham and they've got to be enslaved wet isn't like that and andy you caught classification which you are yielding to it because you think this is a live nature's a little of convention it was established by convention and therefore changes that will change now how his politics was dressed with all adults to live the kind thing as a marxist on a string of this is that we're located the same thing was going to i'm not a scientist who probably has been discredited also but he again

is taking well even further down this was nature's concern species and so forth which costs more descended from those a lot too but to move into well it isn't like the urgency and no and i think i don't know much about and vote no and i think each of these people had their own to vote and i think each of them loved mankind very much because all the people who love men can do this and bush i mean you get a horse and sort of swiftly when i met harold his goodness on the loans these little the creatures social terrible things but if you didn't love me one of talk that way about it use it was blessed to all involve going into my business i i'll have a bedtime thats world to go longer be treading

ground is much less familiar to me in the ground that i've been dreading this seriously so clear that if you take the three people who almost responsible for our outlooks today responsible for them and we'll deliver a line of them or not that doesn't really matter justice greeks are responsible for a lot of many of a certain charisma and were not aware of it but you can look at each of them and that's more his modus operandi of premises has aspirations and to me it's such a clear thing is a conversation has been going on that erupted people live those both on the conversation has taken up again the end and then their fruitful i think it's been responsible for very great inventions a little bit hesitant about and people always work and this piece that led jake hurwitz kind of convention hall upstart who

historically seizures is a familiar one premise who still find gave to mankind and zoos punished him for stealing the final and we look at that shallow particular through that says as a teenagers is as a tyrannical thing and we we should rebel against them as well maybe as uses very was maybe as we without certainty is that fire and therefore cools all of these things which come under far above of a good things and why should the men who liberated has been punished alliances there's some on the night i feel pride in the movie's cajun is what zoos noses itchy of men followed a sure insurance can be used to make an atom bomb just a question of time and is this the best thing to build a question of the inscrutable seuss not as a gesture of piety but as a genuine lack of

knowledge and not an assumption that this arrogant assumption with which to duration crushing tradition that makes temple that got steve jobs to take care of mankind he watched on neitz says part of what's going on in the mind rule the universe but i think that the like probable love the bodies which produces we're thing officers implied very clearly as you see this man the measured thing as is weak spots by the traditional upbringing and most of us but it has its very strong spots to move in a purely spiritual why no

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