The Homosexual: A New Minority; 3; The Male Homosexual, A Personal Interview
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the man whom i shall call ten and beyond this grass the male homosexuals the wolf as i understand it have been living in a relationship with each other but with another man and would you tell us something about the relationship of male homosexuals especially were thinking today i think of those relationships which are a more lasting nature and we might see how this contrast with other kinds of my own sexual relationships bill well i met my roommate nine years ago the party was given this is a thanksgiving party was the senate before thanksgiving and we didn't know that was going to become a permanent relationship that he did develop in there that my friend was in the navy at the time and no he went out of town for a year
when they're around for quite awhile before that and during the year you know he was out of town we kept a very close correspondence when we came back we started living together and that happily ever after can what about your relationship was wasn't about four years and quite successful and i met my roommate so they also other party and we spend time together interests levenson former house you're successful is a matter because we hope very much to a sense of the warm companionship there as well as a sense of
responsibility so forth you mentioned your interests and hobbies would you know something about these as you surely room wall the us your phone and so and so and they fly while her license was not too much recently what is it also on board were even trying to entertain sanctions sunday brunches sort between our oil know what would you how would you describe your interests and hobbies compared with your roommate oh i guess i was running very strong parallel to cancel his friend and music theater travel we traveled quite a bit
soundbite of groaning and i've been your home when you tell us a little bit about your home and certainly a fascinating place world's larger economies says the quran as the original just waiting for it well we're going to have fun finding of old furniture reasonable person put it that you're going to be about redecorating at the ticket in the same period that was bill you both enjoy is the house i mean fixing up furniture and it's not just the interest on that we weren't going to win poor country together like bricks together all sorts of stuff and you talk about responsibility in your relationship that you both feel that each of you felt responsible for the other
four and it contrasted irresponsible relationship between a male sexual trouble and irresponsible relationships i would say the responsible relationship their units they do not necessarily cool or resources they workout plan what they choose to spend on various things look at your mother and an assassin or that they each are really caring and all their income media and we'll ship them together for instance i'm traveling for work that this is more responsibly in contrast to own words just a case where a couple of
dollars are flowing around from home might throw my over so many months or weeks or whatever it was little or no regard to the other's feelings or their deaths involve a river at the other would seem like i'm tristan not just irresponsible butter shallot sauce is unlikely islanders postponed be harmonious one yes just a bakery and actually tried to rein in unison mean to tell me that you've never really have a sharp disagreements as a father that the father that not have been having this revised version when you sense are some of the differences between your relationships and the relationship between normal lives are heterosexual relationship what are some the differences here
or our online first generally white isn't working always of course from to do what others wasn't doesn't want a relationship and one's counting the financial wall by contrast to own the central couple of they're both working as a line in an american getting some are in their own business or individuals the difference is i find sourcing to be advantages as ten so the economic advantage which is considerable is possibly why the general public is an impressionable homosexuals are well to do well ok this isn't exactly a truly all the same type of jobs that are essential to do
is just a big and for a result of their income or their essential head of household he has to support abortion coverage on the children the average home a social lives with another man we're also raising approximately seven common they have double what the wealthy heiress asia low income would be for a hustle another crime advantage is that as long as you have a harmonious relationship with on social partner you retained and one stubbs be harmonious you terminated will also deliver a sexual relationship of marriage and a batch of children you have a mortgage on your house you're pretty much tied down that we owe you so you can afford to divorce your wife your
title for the rest your life when you're happy about it or or if you're unhappy about it doesn't matter that allow social relationship there that goes to be an unhappy relationship you've been terminated will bark this matter of commitment we talked a little earlier about responsibility it seems to me the commitment of our responsibility and at least in christian marriage the husband and wife writing room about to stand by one another to give oneself to the other for better or worse in sickness and health and so on oh what where's a place of commitment in your your own relationship is a note you think and with that as you sort of suggested to me the old doesn't know a terminal kind of thing you know and lots of heterosexual couples look up exactly the same way and more and more in this generation through what judges what they mean our own in terms of a
fledging of one's of fidelity and loyalty indefinitely actually in the christian marriage it's til death do us part saying that that this is fulfilled in our percent of the cases by amending it is well quite sure that area our sexual relationship is a sincere in the beginning as a loss of those sexual relationship i don't think there's any more spoken commitment and that services and understood situation and i think it's as lasting as a researcher commitment to lose the county and i know if we had no intentions of separating we have no love division of our property this is yours mrs biden or everything we have his followers love has no intention of separation it handily there is a possibility of separation just as there is with it whether a
sexual relationship on the anvil year bank accounts water to a budget and you have joint bank bank accounts county workers the markets he's trustee other hand and discusses signs that before a major with roles are persons whose condo is not that close our bacteria schmidt has a separate because my back is so free form a dreamy the way we usually good bills we would balance uber service what about this matter of roles in on sexual relationship a lasting nature i think the one person who was described to me is actually a man you know dressed as a woman but as a woman and his neighbors thought he was a woman until one day he was working on throughout the house and lead over his wit
fell off and they still thought he was a woman hua who was bald of jesus in order now here's a different kind of a relationship i think you're talking about is this i'm unemployed but rather rare thing and other than this a second part of the question what about the roles not what we think of as masculine feminine role as well with your friend on the roof i think he was a woman really he thought of himself as a woman that i think in that sense we should be considered one the majority of couples that i know of don't consider themselves either masculine or a feminine as well i personally inject very much to the expression on social marriage and a man referring to somebody else's his wife or his husband oh i think it sounds silly
and my personal affiliations with other couples call that no other is no such relationship i have known in the us quietly over all is there one person in your view relationships so most of the cocaine ordinarily most of the house where most of those chores which were rarely think the wife killing the other person knows the shores of them man ornery those in our sexual relationship or my roommate is very bad cook cooking in the house in passing a celibate remembers the last gleaming so the hawk will be hard put to say who who wears the pants in a phone or markers that were both are proud of the cooks and at the house claims maduro
half are so on average each feels like it was just really using the term religiously that in a thousand votes their top shape this smut cesar milan this like housework so people one of them will live behind an like an apparent suicide before so that was cool or it feels like that and you think going very well as you think of male homosexuals who live on a roller last week on a relationship would you say most of them are as you are and i think i understood you to be saying that you think of yourself as men and the reporters do likewise which uses his characteristic of most of the couples you know true emotional and sexual relationships don't agree with you i was talking with a fine person well educated and what we think was a tortured person who has been living in a love song for eleven ten or eleven
years he had been married before that his marriage had not worked out they're a wider circle marriage he told me that even in in the best hummus actually on the sexual of songs that there still were significant differences and that relationship from a heterosexual relationship i think he was and in particular in terms of their art tolerance is corruption a sexual relationship that are not generally accepted an essential relationship can agree with this i think this is very true especially where you have a more intelligent guys to quiet masculine so forth and who is not a responsibility i think the
intolerance is you have to make naturally are adjustments as time goes on there has to be a basis of trust really a real good mutual trust but you still have to tolerate slow idiosyncrasies is this what you were shooting for tolerance is that he had in mind were was principally this one murders in relationship to other person and that an adult sexual relationship that infidelity or adultery example traditionally is looked upon one way you know i was a big discussion analyst how common the melody is in a heterosexual relationship and i think we have a a normal police torture in which does exist and that is that the audience actually let's say a narrowly defined sexual science and a homosexual relationship isn't quite the same that day homosexual couples will
not give themselves stricklin i'd say over three years exclusively to to their partner might be expected normal more let's say more common in a heterosexual relationship i think is pretty much depends on the individuals involved in some cases people who remained solid and other instances emotionally there together and physically record seven and then there's a whole spectrum in between and i think this is probably true of voters schedules also the owners are open about it i think this situation is with the research was to have especially with a heterosexual man was more more opportunity than they have such a woman for extracurricular activities you mr stuart to persons who have been living in relationships with other individuals same person's for a longer time
and i'm wondering how common this relationship is kind of relationship is for example when tv documentaries in new stories in magazines and publications we see portrayed another side of the homosexual lobby of arrests and parks guevara's of a particular nature where other them in and i can always tell whether a man or a woman it's kind of thing how common is a an enduring relationship among male homosexuals as compared with what we might call simply the promiscuous male homosexuals would be more pro us and by the center of american center will propose a number of what percentage would hesitate to venture forth but those moral problems here you mentioned
the mars and so forth i rarely personally that they are going to work alone aren't as a rule my room i know myself well and just certain occasions just perhaps to get together with some friends or something and we grab for another party some or something like this ruin or brunch or whatever it may be but not as a mysterious hangout situation i for one had never been guilty of involving myself in public parks in aleppo exciting idol is still quite pervasive enter not track me at all comparing the average for social what the people you read about in the newspapers would be comparable to comparing average heterosexual agree with the rapists and so forth that you've read about the newspapers to small
minority just as a business owner sexual world there are many many heterosexuals that don't associate themselves with that with the bank robbers and the only eyewitness people get into bar fights and so forth and this december's association with sexual community people don't feel that they are the same people that they read about the paper's you're talking no the logo of the advantages of the male sexual relationship oh you see and feel any disadvantage is i wonder for example in comparison with a heterosexual relationship the matter of children of what that lesson a middleman has been married before and had children by a woman likely that was the case the woman kept the children are what about the matter of life without children and your feelings about this they have cats you have cats are you know made
a lot of that day or ever would have barred quote involved in this oh i would say in certain areas but i might miss it occasionally yes because i'm very fond of drama and a wholesome fashion of course nuns i'm teaching both the mammalian the young fellows and especially and the only high school early college level oh i like this kind of work which i'm not building now renovated journalism which i haven't used for years but his writing aside these little things all seen the show and still enters my mind all ran on occasion in a way i sort of work gen with all
the concern about birth control do you think homosexuality might be pushed as a city as a solution for birth control the over population of the world i think i've heard a portion and read articles where it was offered as a solution to the problem of birth and my own feeling is that you know there's so many heterosexuals on this i think it's a fantasy kind of thing is really unrealistic and weekends on sexual and as a justification or the rationalization for the sway of like that now her research shows i think find satisfaction and procreation and the sexual relationship to homosexuals agree television shows last week i imagine that our research was the quintessential or her sexuality of eight individuals formed in their pre teens and that means a very important situation the people consider people accuse homosexuals of
appropriating their way of life among teenagers and young adults where in reality it's already been determined whether they're going to be homosexuals or heterosexual and clyde do you feel that the society points a finger at you and that homosexuals in terms of corrupting children and youth males particularly insistent general conception marjorie unbelievably well i think is just now beginning to be become disproved it's going to get repealed this proving to convince the general public on them what kinds of social pressures do you feel on your own relationship i'm thinking you know that a house or an apartment to take your neighborhood just two men living together roommates do your neighbors argues the only social pressures in terms of their professional lives
once you know social pressure but then at the same time we don't know when your own sexuality up and down the block the flight robbie wheeling to live live at a concert of life and ah i think by the neighbors were considered just to share a house together and rogers told me a problem i think possibly if we were to have a drag parties at all hours of the night and that were around in extreme clothing and so forth way we might encounter some social pressures and they were a bit i would object to this myself phase of our neighbors heard of you tell us a little bit about your relationship with women are not in your most intimate relationships what about europe well where else do you need women how do you feel about your relationship with women to replace delay have in your lives
well i mentioned women that are considered good friends that oliver bedlam learn more records you have the amount of this is an insult to a world reporter who you mentioned association or affiliation with you about there's no i was thinking more of the home essential living in rural central world or world which is populated predominantly by heterosexual heterosexuals and women make up a big part of this world is possible and to organize one's life to you know stay away from women or from men one wants to do this and particularly unique and he kind of close relationship where one shares intimately and i'm nothing of sexual in a narrow sense
what of your own feelings at a very close kind of the reason was a strongman who are involved and i was on that now that the feelings to get this is really what i am on and you have this kind of have you had this kind of relationship or do with women i lose i have had no or close relationships with women recently frank madsen says my roommate but joe although the son relationship or if you don't see each other every day you call up and talk in the form of the much closeness and i think one of the big attractions what was a video or similar interests and concerns a designer many women
they're essentially inclined women who think about all the search will decide whether to do missionary work all he needs is a is a woman's companionship to straighten out all of this nonsense and i think they're very misguided many times the homosexuals for this and tries it out the fire it doesn't work hear about this matter of meeting for potential partners what what is this problem for a male homosexuals you you both met your partner the one point or another well i think it's just a case of work and those are recognizable signal you might say between homosexuals it not tangible it's very difficult to establish i was singing something of a social structure now this doesn't have to take place in a gay bar might take place anywhere else in
the world of you here you're meeting you think gave our service social purpose however in providing a place for homosexuals in the airport it very much for sharing with us in this personal way your feelings about what it is like to live in a more enduring kind of relationship with another man thanks a lot the homosexual a new minority you were listening to the third in a series of programs on the subject of homosexuality in america today the moderator for the series the reverend john b mor minister of glide memorial methodist church california the target of the next program the causes of homosexuality is discussed by dr albert ellis fb
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- The Riverside Church (New York, New York)
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Moderator: Moore, John V.
Producing Organization: WRVR (Radio station: New York, N.Y.)
Publisher: WRVR (Radio station : New York, N.Y.)
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- Chicago: “The Homosexual: A New Minority; 3; The Male Homosexual, A Personal Interview,” 1965-09-23, The Riverside Church , American Archive of Public Broadcasting (GBH and the Library of Congress), Boston, MA and Washington, DC, accessed August 21, 2024, http://americanarchive.org/catalog/cpb-aacip-528-j38kd1rs43.
- MLA: “The Homosexual: A New Minority; 3; The Male Homosexual, A Personal Interview.” 1965-09-23. The Riverside Church , American Archive of Public Broadcasting (GBH and the Library of Congress), Boston, MA and Washington, DC. Web. August 21, 2024. <http://americanarchive.org/catalog/cpb-aacip-528-j38kd1rs43>.
- APA: The Homosexual: A New Minority; 3; The Male Homosexual, A Personal Interview. Boston, MA: The Riverside Church , American Archive of Public Broadcasting (GBH and the Library of Congress), Boston, MA and Washington, DC. Retrieved from http://americanarchive.org/catalog/cpb-aacip-528-j38kd1rs43