Come Together; Profanity and All That, Part 2

this station would like to advise its listeners that this week's come together program which follows is a discussion of the uses of profanity and contains language that may be considered offensive by some listeners come together and together the weekly program on end for metropolitan you with your co hosts tony nash and sheldon levy this week's discussion entitled profanity and all that hard to get a follow up of last week's discussion of the use of profanity by today's youth their parents and the community at large the participants employ the use of profanity only as a means of expediting the discussion how to introduce new panel here is you're leaving and this week's program to prevent it and will i continue working out with

last week's discussion about young people and prevent it with my guests event pfeiffer steve weekly was around dawn would end the re spin on like to begin by asking him to each shuttle knew about themselves and they back down i'm a student at columbia college of columbia university i come from los altos california and i'm not sure that what we're prospective nature of a lot of bomb roots in new york city i'm a graduate from your school opening in boston and new york university steve week i wrote this new jersey announced in and climate challenge and i'll be on the law school in the fighter tom the sake of the first i want to listen to it then that's a very reasonable our managers from atlanta georgia i go on the university and

white state and think of law school to win by asking don who was irked is going to offer a show and professor at a question which was brought to the us dollar the unspoken that was about the origins of confetti money last week i mentioned the fact that oh a lot of the american customs including the use of profanity stemmed from the black community and also the fact that no people in the black community tend to use profanity differently than people unlikely that you could come in i really don't think i could have a number asking you is your opinion my opinion well i just think that some some trends are set in a sparse fashion and as far as language in the black community but i have i really don't know and i don't think i could say much on topic i think maybe welles would know more than i

would have said to his flaws or no professor in the entire community is just the major thing is to express oneself like individually with those muscles what about expressing oneself have you found in your everyday practices that it is hopeful the farms of self expression or is it just the sort of well practice practice with no real goals a wreath to me for vanity is it something that you know you we can use in anger disgust and isaac frequently now in college because i hear quite often but it's sort of it's sort of turns me off when i hear it it can be used well by people

and it is expressive but most people might use it so wasted because i wasted on stupid things when super fan of oh well at say anger most people i'd say would use anger as ian crouch of their preferred medium egg you'll start cursing lots of vignettes are no relating some haven't but it's good because this we're letting our be a promotional tensions and you're not done an athletic build up so that you don't get physical but you just you know sort of oral live i had a real now set their question your teeth in time to do a seventies well i think for family is extremely useful i think you know dramatic moment a conversation between argument you can use it in because of that because you don't normally hear a good deal to know that their world domination of the last week we go into a discussion about two prophetic to flee in regard to our referring to

sex and our parts of the body and the entire thing and we talked about how there was almost a sort of a taboo about in many cases about sex and everything else in that this production and one of the reasons that this sort of work almost second language to go to refer to read in that perhaps people wouldn't be so about the use of profanity if in fact they want one song about sex and the question i'm asking is do essential items and hang out about her family have any relation i think people get upset when you swear at them get upset more because of the words that you're using rather than the meaning that is behind the words i think come many people they're not able to either use profanity or accept it lightly and but i don't think that it's necessarily on the fact that

the meanings behind the words upset them i think it's the words themselves student one thing i think of the words themselves to something far be funded by the word intercourse and fog has connotations of aggressiveness intercourse does i think it's the same with any sort of divine is always a more sophisticated were driven useful but that the recall profanity has lower class or you know crude or connotations as voters polish origin it was really back to another question that was last week and you find that people we use profanity in excess are regularly tend to use it about over an inability didn't speech or presentation of self or they tend to be low or no no i think the people i know who

who might now or use profanity use it because it's part of their their orientation cultural icon status of those are students w third use more about it in public more than adults and adult century for various notches use but they reserved or you know their homes i was just thinking about with twisty was saying how our kids are able to use profanity loosely in public than adults i remember one time i was over the holidays i was in o'hare airport in chicago and i was stuck there trying to get on a flight to cleveland and i was standing at the end of the counter at the ticket counter and the united airlines ticket agents just really loved to be dramatic and i said well howard how the floods to cleveland look for standup because they're awful there they're awful there's no way they're now shift gears well that is one way is he wouldn't you say it as you see it where is the trend going in for young people and uses it is it becoming more involved a part of our culture or is it

our debt in other words do you think that twenty years from now you'll be using it just as a user today what do you think that you would come like your parents and i use it less or in a different way it will take an idea you know when elves say they're talking to the parents and a pulled out some leo letter words that warrants in certain skilled and it was amazing to me to find out that they were you know that shot they understood knew everything else talking about and it doesn't seem to cuss words change that much i mean you have new line though and the new language which is the parents don't know what if you turn around sit smack a lot of people don't know you mean heroin but gov the chinese at the cuss words elite and most people know the weather older now i mean it's something that doesn't seem to change that much they're very few new changes in your vocabulary of crossword

steve i think for fun is changing that i think there are there were at least two kinds of refine their preferred it certain people use like adults one feels about the same damn or god damn walgreens a flock of view is another thing i think you today of all classes are using what would you know only coal miners would lose twenty years ago mr original question was though that do you think that this will become more particles or will in twenty years you go back to doing it right i don't think so because i don't think anyone has the i don't think anyone has to hang up you know the relationship provided they did twenty years ago that people would you know feel forced the subject feel for the president so i think maybe another generation disciple of that people still prefer to have seen the kenyan government will not stop using as much of an event i think it sort of you know difficulty hypothesize whether we will use profanity as much when we're older as we do now but i think it's interesting that when you look at

very young kids today say i'm in ten years old or something on ice see a lot of them they will be swearing a lot more than i ever swallows ten years ago and i think that they do it all for assault to try and seem older you know they they feel that by by swearing they are certify carry a sleep because becoming the cool cat that they see in their older brother's or their older sisters one deals with the cultural aspects use profanity as you see it in things like school and things like audit in things like entertainment i like your opinion to be a feeling that this has a place to her family has a place in the theater in the arts louisville i think it does because i'm going to all the way of life in which we're living now in byron which most of us of anything that had had the family blank donovan doesn't seem as realistic as it would be

closed for a family as a part of our culture today than when you're on stage or when you go to theater when you see a movie or a play where everyone is trying to skim a sigh try to hide the defendant if true feelings and so this phone it seems phony to you because it's not real it's not like you know the true image just do it so i think that's really very well i really angry because i think that you know play store or any type of art that blanks out either profanity or ideas about without drugs or or parts of today's culture that or not you know saves accepted a few years ago i think that when they bought them out they become very unrealistic i would like to sort of take a brief poll has to find out how extensive you use insects languages that

is do you consider use it frequently more than three years since you've been at columbia the essence and not say that the most part it is it not too frequently our times i'll come out with a very you know a lot about that well sometimes it defend it really depends how you feel i summed some people use it and only know tuesday moses ama noticing that you know they don't they don't care of stephen lemieux well i think i use for a tiny frequently true more than it is or may i know i think he is enough that it uses

too much of it is it like like greece see anything like a sail use a string of disconnected profane word to use one more autonomy very angry at someone off on the values of family is according to an environment which i'm a lot of fun with people who tend to have to push pope francis i like the bolts so are trotted out and laid them on their level groan well my own pews i lit them on their level and they live with that story i figured that out of five people one person would walk into a trap and that was eliminates question which is do you feel it when you use it the feel it is due to social pressure or are too conforming you know you feel a new york pressure to conform to using it or to not using the farmer works on this

and everyone's there you know white collar workers blue collar workers and there's an sos on the phone and work and say look i'll you know use different words to express my opinion would be full of shit but if i come to stone jam and i'm playing basketball with some cat fun of me for no reason and has been a custom audience it was because these people are used to carry an effort closes it on my site that business people about social pressure course i was getting at all you pressured by your peers sometimes into the use of it and i think and i mentioned this before that he and i never fell into it to it so deeply as he did when he moved to the side for carla hall yeah that's original version i am but i think that i i didn't fall into like i knew some kids or the summer who were younger than myself and they

found it the way they would use profanity would be a preface everything by your fucking i mean they didn't use it to vent frustration they just go well the fucking dorm spoken out tonight isn't that you know something like that and i'm i find that i use it to vent frustration more than i did when i was in california and down i think you know i think it's true two thousand to say that that probably right between coming to you sometimes you feel pressured idea and to using profanity because year around everyone is it is that they are descendents the question i was getting at what's happening in your experience being ostracized chose not use is just this type of language well the way i see if i ever tried to refrain from using profanity running doesn't which i run with the hangout with that looked at me as a thousands of a wall as part

of a cliche mo when i'm gonna be some money and that they would be so strange that was on him he interviews and thirteen and fourteen syllable words and stories and proclaim order harrison so what is the utility so you know full of the word winston it that you said that in the future we're going to stop choreographer and a prophetic you know only use that term you think that this will become such a part of the american culture and language and way of expressing himself yeah i think so because the wages not think level for five years just be like the industry and it won't be no harm saying no fucking shit just being a leg finalize a coalition for the flow of these two worlds

good for dramatic effect once in a while the entire five each and you know and i mean it did i think of profanity or the words that we use today that we call profanity become completely accepted i think a new profoundly personal word come into line which can be used same way that the words being called fattening today used because i think people always need some profanity will build those no one of around the places where in categories and say that this was befriended had never been a long controversy as to which word bad words which words are good but when i was a kid i said something like oh hell and woman looking at say could send us bad words and smacking what about in the middle of this is a bad word out through those much oh agreement will assign certain words we think we know them were bloody and that british do and i think if we consider the fact that he goes out of style i think than in preventing

crop up because there's always you know the shock value as warren's boss of me an acceptable article on that note like we're in this discussion and my guests eventually from steve really soon he's been you're listening to come together and setting a discussion on the use of profanity on the parents feel about the use of profanity among young people to discuss this and other related topics with our adult panel here is tony now well

again yes mr dunne and psych on sea published by pathfinder press professor alan walker read was a lexicographer in the field of modern english especially in the history of american isms and a professor of english at columbia university henry dee pearson assistant general manager of teleprompter manhattan cable tv i'd like to start this evening by going back to a point that was made last week when we were discussing the use of swear words by young children and parents attitude and we first spoke about mothers telling their children that things were not proper or not ladylike and the first thought that i had was myrna why do you feel that same ladylike is something to you to be objective too well it is a kind of oppression to confine a female

in that bag maker fealty asked to act a certain way be restricted in her language it's almost as those were wearing hobbles skirts about her feet not only does her psyche and her mom and her mind that restrict their freedom and makes her feel different or defensive read i remember i just think that you were pretty much in agreement with that and had a feeling that using that word could taste represented many of the hang ups we head because the curse words representative blues and things like that and i thought about it and came up with the thoughts that society it seems to me is supposed to be a refining of our more barbaric attitudes and feelings and eight refining of of ways of life in ways of saying things and and and

but and i tried to say swimmers as an aspect of instruments of donations now what is wrong with that to fill in that it's bad or will a great degree of the conformity i think is involved in such an outlook and it keeps us from being natural end developing as our potentiality is a winner might permit if we have greater freedom there is a very strong tradition of puritanism in american in american civilization going back to the colonial times i keep thinking that they could reason one tries to become fitter live is to be alive barbaric aren't too to enjoy things to have a chance to refine our taste so and we could all go back

to being animals you know being primitive being our basic cells being totally free with each other and if we carry that to its farthest extent we would just walk up and saw people every time we didn't like the scanner right now isn't this the purpose of society or civilizing ourselves to preserve society so that we can exist and not destroy i think we were really sincere about it that it would be fine in a way if we would all become quite peaceful and loving toward one another and therefore not use the words the dean of violence and aggression but you see what i'm contending as were very violent people far from civilized weak weak we indulge in euphemism and opera say we we made some of these young men who were killing people and shoving them into heads in vietnam might not be able to use certain words at home the point is i would prefer that violence and aggression be talked about rather than active now and so i don't see what civilization means as far as the quality of your lives is concern with

yes but do i almost believe violent are barbaric in our changing culture is this does this require that i be this way i don't think so i don't think we're required to the violin and just think we are violent there's so many things in our so called civilization that really produce violence the overcrowding of the city's for instance makes people quite madam violent it's not right for people to have so little room for themselves and i think they're giving away from the immediate and i think we should get back to a marijuana strain moderating but it's up senator were talking about yes they have this freedom are is this a required thing artist too i'll be a part of our current culture must we have the most well and also could i interject at this point the fact that we have spoken the freedom of usage there certainly is a great deal more of that and yet our crime rate certainly have not gone

down with this freedom of expression and i'm saying oh shit is not keeping people from going out and killing and that they are hitting it might be disarmed great thing is i don't know what the statistics are on murders and violent crimes of violence should be rising but you know i'm not really thinking in the city you know very well it's mostly addicts and their roles are not there for that it's i don't believe the language isn't really a factor but let's talk about a little a guy out in the air that very new canaan connecticut was that a boy who was about to be invested as an eagle scout who suddenly way i don't think it was sudden i think perhaps he has some some of their history behind him and killed everyone in his family who could reach in the most violent way imaginable i'll bet he never used an obscenity and his life expectancy and the legislature rejected so i you know when you but maybe his hang up was that he did use this is getting him into a corner where he

can no longer use it also but i don't think i can describe as i said this is you know i don't know yeah i must say that most of the time when i have heard of people who have committed to solve crime usually the neighbors have nothing but maurice words to say about this very quiet spoken person that is so young woman alone last week when we left off you had mentioned something about the eye you actually hadn't put it this way even spoken about the the contributions made by the black market rate is right and mention that that in contrast to the actual county felt it was to come to be fun and this is out of proportion to your numbers which unlike elaborate on that a little well the thing is that within our society where we have a new capsule a good societies which in a sense are not allowed to be part of the general society and therefore sometimes do not share in what i consider the enormous

criminal tendency of our mainstream and in my opinion i don't know what the reason is and some people may consider me racist or sang it feeling as whenever i've seen black contributions they were always been the vitality of the society the vitality of this community vitality of line with vitality music it seems to me that there is a certain freedom when you're not when you have got to make it at that so called white level that you're free or are that are more honest that you that you're allowed to keep your integrity and now this is as admittedly a racist position perhaps as the opposite and i don't and i don't mean to be racist it's just that i think that people who have it good and comfortable a society are corrupt and people who are able to see the truth about the society quite early are less corrupt pearson which you haven't been to comment on now are the observation

i wrote evolving i think that's sort of what what's being expressed by the people is that right now we are evolving or any or we are an evolving culture and because of that we reflect a lot more of a talented lady then now we do in similar cultures are similar groups that are environmentally the same and i think that maybe the big difference for my feeling is that that may be the difference i think there is a lot more money from the black market i think that most youngsters though today would have to admit they find themselves in the position of having to conform particularly kids in the ghetto they do i think come under peer pressure to conform i think right now my son who was jumped on a couple of months ago and the advice from his coach was that he should conform more to the street level perhaps dress a little

more sloppily it and try to be a little more like the boys in the street and sound a little more like come together will return after a station identification this is w r b r a new york city public radio at one or six point seven fm you're listening to come together this week presenting a continuation of a discussion of the use of profanity for those of you have just tuned in this programme contains language that may be considered offensive by some listeners and now back to the adult animal and tony hatch like the defendants themselves and perhaps not quite as common perhaps he doesn't use the same language patterns he doesn't curse i think there is perhaps a trend among black youngsters particularly those who are in the

ghetto area who feel they have to express themselves in certain ways they have to curse they have to have certain attitudes in ways of speaking in the end if they don't then they're selling out and i think they are being forced into molds among themselves or else they are looked upon as being of oreos are whatever the chair and i'm i want you to try and i think many times they're for instance when when you were little you had a way of showing respect for an island right and some things as far as adults shot are concerned right you did not swear in front of him we did swear perhaps to your friends or you will do something all are you can possibly imagine i don't think i'm he went as i think i mentioned last time it would let me say dirty yellow rat i wrote that down in my diary once about my cousin she was and he and i think i had a month punishment and i wasn't allowed to say a word like a jerk you know what about other

arab nations i what i didn't even know i was being punished at the time so i was very careful with my language and and as i may have mentioned my first i first encountered what we're calling profanity in not in a psychotherapy own situation and i was horrified really hard on you know i don't want i think what i was trying to get to was your feelings about youngsters now and their attitudes toward adults and they don't seem like it's ames how quickly that they aren't going out of their way not to show respect as we know it when they turn around and see that there are adult sitting behind then or in front of them or so on i may be i am assuming your son's position it's a i think were relating back and i'm not sure you know i was in your son's position i was raised in an atmosphere with that was far more rigid than me and the other kids around and then speak the way i did my trouble was i was too careful with my speech even dramatically i was accused of having swallow addiction are now i know something about your son something about you and

so forth and i'm sure that he speaks more correctly than most of the kids cared too and that is and that he's probably being accused of being true to white tusa say i'm not sure but i'm sure that his speeches correct that in itself and died say that it's nothing new to know that you i have a friend who told me that matter fact and told me that her son had to say trash twice he's only fifteen and i don't believe me and she said she repeated the phrase used the end of the picture and ire i winced she said this was used for a picture that doesn't mean a thing to him and how different it is with us now and i felt really offended me say my first reaction was why shouldn't be exposed to this well within a phrase i really don't want to repeat it was it was a lot of these the vernacular for not the fellatio i look at him and i

was angry because i felt there to witness it i don't really fifty year old native of history now you had several comments to make on that last week in fact i remember when i was speaking about reacting to my son that if he should curse at me and i said i would react quite physically and probably stop intercepting a week that you know and as erin increase that didn't i think that perhaps i would be in completing his hang up and thereby sort of suggesting that if you take offense and anyway that it gives indication that you have a hangar about i knew we shoo we could that have a revision of the social attitudes so the term no and we wouldn't have hang ups and i think that the best form in the best place for such provisions to take place is in the home because there are others where the basic attitude to get started and that if a

child learns that does something that you know has shock value that is likely to remain in his nervous system for long after he intellectually knows that it need not have shock value and he'll still continue to to tickle a little sharper hang up that hasn't already developed well maybe we do need some little bit of that preserve to so that we can still interact to each other if we all had you not to lead was edited and couldn't shake each other and that would be frustrating to i still would hope that we would have such a reasonable attitude towards all phases of our life that we readers see things clear i still have the eye there's something that i'm reaching for now whether it is that i sort of question if perhaps i'm not understanding you correctly do you feel then that if a person has and the

hesitancy in terms of cursing in their normal speech pattern that it is usually an indication that you know what am i wouldn't think of that while i think that there are many other unfortunate thing to hide behind the notion of good taste and i still think there's something in that a justice or at the dinner table one would want a disc busta peck's commander in matters even though at other times ex commander in matters might be the thing that there had to be discussed but to their appropriate times for this and for that and finding the appropriate occasion in social relations has a great deal to it we were wondering about whether there was an possibly an appropriate time for the bad words to be used there and it could be yet because they are rhetorical resource as an english teacher would say and that we learn know and that we'd get an effect by survive the use of certain amount

of phrases and words were alarmed and then when a successful in communication if you make use of those rhetorical resources yeah i want to ask all of you quickly how you feel about young people going to movies that do involve the use of what we would consider fairly offensive language at what age would you want your youngsters to be exposed to an angry i think i have no real objection to his being exposed to maybe i should comment that he's twelve years old and he taken him to see it doesn't matter but i haven't seen it but talk i don't think i would have any real objection to it however i think as a parent would be my responsibility to possibly talk with him explain to him our make him understand that their usage here is for a purpose and it isn't necessary to express himself to necessarily use

this particular jar and some in some way discuss this with him so that he understands that there is this one thing here and there's something here as professor reid said there are some things we don't discuss at the dinner table opposite i have no objection to his using a language or well it's an asset values and i think that has to be you know at the point where he understands what he's using and why he's used the reasons for and i think a bad at prom we used to be maybe because of a peer army because he heard it our because it's a challenge but not because he understands what he's trying to say you know it's once he understands then he'll know when to use it cause certainly his selection merrick choices will be more timely a minute if you have anything and my feeling about a senator that i was going to bring into this segment was that really obscene things were not what we were classified as obscene things that i really objected saying there are scenes of violence in

movies as as much as i objected to that particular kind of thing as expressed by me and i live in a way a little bit ago i really object to violence jerry joe that's out that is it ambiguous enough that are so that many people can can identify with joe is the hero makes me sick to my stomach and that's the kind of thing i wish were not available to anyone professor retired you any thoughts on that well i should hope that no general upbringing the child it would be a kind of balance in his outlook and that that his own choices somewhat when he comes to a point where he can take a better analogy would be ready for right well at this point let's join our young people and broaden our discussion a little bit

we can it's bleak i know oh our tour groups will come together for the high point of the show or discussion among both age groups tony nash opens the segment by reintroducing the artist's fair portion of come together we're sitting here with all of our guests together we have john willard reese bernard willis brown steed weekly event pfeiffer

hank pearson learn a lamp and professor alan walker read and of course they're shelling and myself were going to open up with our first question that we always like to put to the young people did you have any particular reactions to the adult portion yes if it will be trashed payments go from the subway say and movies will is a close or twice on it these are used in the ways that was especially in i don't think it is just a stage yeah i wanted to ask you and since you are our only young lady on the panel this evening what your feelings are do you find that girls in your group the what would agree when in school

whatever the eleventh grade you find the girls tend to her son is in love and how bacteria were dispirited willie mae nobody still only use it to express anger or do you find yourself using everyday conversation that family union ahmed every day ok and and paddy field of oysters in in front of a result is a job also you don't take offense and my son made a comment that he usually gauge himself and it i keep referring to him because i sat and discuss the program last week with him and he said that he usually gauge is designed by the way to grow beards in the way the girl speaks and that he felt that if there was some girls you spoke politely to them that they feel that they were being ridiculed don't even have any comment on life

support of the infant stage you know i don't to gauge my speech by you know by sects of one girl not worth a girl would not be using certain words and i wouldn't use as the underdog win and steve on that you know opens it for one wall it if we can well there are saddam went into full use of saying we have gasoline is one that's rather conspicuously and so even if it's unconscious the demand for them to do that i think it as i think generally the moment or do i don't think it's critically because that out it's a girl i think it's because an unknown quantity and i think that

another male stone wouldn't be imminent on even adults or the girl for what these coed dorms are having i don't think that that the language is noticeably different than many of them in the mail to arms i think they used to each other's languages contract the songs are done bad known quantities i thank god for instance if the guy lives with a girl he talks eventually the girl the way he talk to his male friends and they multiply that by however many rooms have a dormitory and i guess the line which is no different i have a question i want to i want clarification are we talking about the use of obscenity in normal conversation of the use of obscenity in anger what were talking about how one uses a period in other words it that has said that the only time she uses it is when she's angry now jon will use it as these express himself many times just a normal conversation

yesterday i don't it don't hurt ious and certainly the way a lot of people do that very often mostly the wrong way where they just throw out a swear word of their senses to try and be cool i don't think that's very terry childs i think i think that i use is it to vent frustration almost all the time if i if i had given year the idea that i want to have someone who's understand why you support some other opinions i'm curious if there is a difference there not field for us could always been released until someone went on percentages can be used and anger frustration and adding can become part of your novels speech i say especially college or any new environment where you're down in the more frustrations

like you always a lot of panic in an army barrack would say that that's the danger of an inch you know the military chain everything else where you have over your frustration build up a unique fraternity to let out some of his old is not sometimes the more just because you're all men together and you know it steve lacy jewish we have coed dorms and things like i'd usually when men get together they seem to feel at this is a manly sort of thing to do that's the stereotype of masculinity i suppose it does have some of the dominance well because they said that if any effect of men came on the floor that you would not stop the speech patterns know even though he was an unknown quantity also another another males to know basic common instances was i don't think when these are user friendly and especially chinese hero especially johnny maston if anything on

subconsciously probably the students you know views are supposed to be more profane than adults as with every reject i think that's the image of a subconscious maybe trying to project the image of masculinity what you talk to was here the way he normally talk it you know that in the company of your mouth is how did it was remarkably different from the ways no not very markedly i mean i would interject something rather than sometimes i will use it to be our more accurately expressive but it drops onto my talent where you just have a son you know he was so absurd in a political sense a lot lately you know it's a saving a fuck up the establishment or whatever i mean isn't that used quite consistently that's the way i used it in a speech once i go i walk outs from all marxists the regular season which would overthrow these notions of syndications approach their

lives to stand on how parents adults swearing where adults who were connected with you what you know it is an adult doesn't include special emphasis on the world is so so identify with to have jobs they can swear to it this is you know i know my father and you know be as profane is displaying know i'll be demeaned his position as my father wears you know ruined cities and because he's so far as to what about another my mother i think one element of purposely restraints or sell the la times were and i think she shows some some weakness in partisan agendas on tuesday selling a lot of those dana white is the weakness because i think there are i think he would like to sit on and i don't know there's a dog because that would offend religious sentiments

but she never says damn because i think she's she's afraid of what you know the very well only a little says i think that you know it's it's not an acceptance of a valuable tree or a certain view now and run her own party committee you say damn she was a dollar year she just was shuttlesworth made it worse is they are special age when you feel children should start swearing all of that is now i mean when it would be acceptable to you as a parent one of my god accepted uses no oh it is so viewers

that means i'm light particular forces invaded put themselves in my shoes being a young will raise very close and closely and by my mother than any person any other person under the sun could say any combination of curse words to me that would have the same effect in moments of one of them and now this to me says something sort of like not only do i put my mother on a pedestal when i read her opinions online really going to be just devastating she said something in the internet and that sort of the tone and i wonder if you have the same sort of ideas or feelings about it is that you can really doesn't matter you or hurt was corzine's are holding for me you visited the words come out of my mother's mouth that while forget all uncommon old artist from her here and sit down and do much

more than you've been using i can i don't know that i can i can even see my mother swear it does it is an image which i cannot project in my mind but i think press the situation with me was somewhat my father had a great amount of respect for his advice and for his opinions and down i remember the first time he got really mad and when he was he swore we were driving home on a one night and he just the camps wearing so much and i was literally in a state of shock for about two days no one around telling my friend those are young people he shared my dad i say you just couldn't believe it and he wasn't he was swearing at me and so it's a different you know i mean if either of my parents a resort me i think it would hurt me tremendously so then those words sometimes do have meaningful other then just yap personally i think so because

i don't just saying them swear at me would i know that it's something that is so far removed from what they usually do they would have to be tremendously anger and they would really be trying to get across on my level how angry they are so i would really i would feel that i did they were really mad professor redone to get a picture of a lot of repressed women are some uncertainties by their children older generation as one wonders what will develop in the next generation well interesting thing happens is that contrary to sort of what you hear everyone here has given me the impression that they really love their parents and i think that's right next this is for us when us and ensemble from mining

like to clarify that i don't think you to present a long drawn from a simple point of marriage after nine after listener when matter is if she herself seduced and i will and sports well below what cinema because that's not my words and now i feel very strongly you know you know what no way because it's not it's not like the entire world leaders at all the images of the level of whitney it used to be and i know you know what you know the objective excuse me but i have a very artsy definition which i will not hurt you with four women on a pedestal but i have another feeling about stupid and i have another feeling about romance between children mostly boys in their mother's which is also a jew our nothing against insensitive some of the best of our air is actually about incest is all it is that yes

a white artist writers are women are as groovy internally as men are i know that for a fact i mean not just because i'm a woman and because i had been profane internally when i was not allowed its president externally that because i spoken to women who have also evolved from that kind of repression we're using entire point he was not is not disarmament of hers were there anything else is that law without religion has its you know you know we've learned that happens the boom is below in something we really use it for a specific purpose or would most of you prefer to see mothers opened up sometimes and just let out with the good god religion rather than that repressed silent anger for three four days i probably won't want to stay cold it comes and it hauls

so for six months i actually didn't want to just complaints and complaints he doesn't close with a few complaints about the profanity two hours they expressed this thing in just words sometimes oh no well you know i think sometimes you could express even even though i'm in the same tone of voice if you said what was bothering you and directed it in the same tone of voice it's like he talked last week about saying peanut brittle recently you know that that tone of voice also can sometimes on that note perhaps we will close this week i'd like to thank my guests myrna land and pearson and professor alan walker greene dawn luker who's been on

steve we even apply for a moose and i'd like to thank you to children and telling us to come together in egypt you've been listening to come together featuring a discussion this week on profanity next week come together examines the relationship with the catholic church and black young people in a program entitled the catholic church and black youth

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