Theologs' Dialogue; 2; Missions

it is a business theological students of maryville seminary at austin in new york and the union theological seminary in new york city discussed areas of common concern for roman catholics and protestants in the second of this seriously discussed christian mission they had today in that substance which they mutually comparison the niacin bring protestants and roman catholics are one even while they are divided in their understanding of how about substances made flesh and isn't carnage in the church which is the body of

christ well great ecclesiastical body such as vatican to and the world council of churches stripe on the highest administrative level sort of visible unity there is a dialogue between roman catholics and protestants occurring elsewhere on the logs dialogue we invite you to eavesdrop as it were on one place where this exchange is going on between theological students of variables seminary and the union theological seminary in new york married all located near austin in new york as a seminary for the training of roman catholic missionary priest union theological seminary is a non denominational school for training pastors and theological scrubs informal discussions on these programs about a part of a continuing fellowship and dialogue between students of these two theological schools participating in this

afternoon's discussion from mary know are john bowing jean toland and richard ramsey unions jews participating on bone growing use and gerry shaber is a very good piece thank you judges always been in a statement that the game is the mission of the

church percent of them a ticket and if islam is a relation between mission change when we speak of a baptized person being included in them but cry for also speak of him as receiving grace and in baptism coming in a favor with god well communication with cut means god god loves you and the challenge of pretzel community realizes this with god lets you interview do you really be being false too that love and to yourself if you didn't make it an ongoing love from yourself a baptized person receiving love needs to release it and if it contains it within himself with ed really was standing and in danger of losing my love the new receivers so the elevators couldn't even maybe this might add more to that and i think that the and the fact that each of us as a missionary calling for a baptism stems from the fact that a baptism we received the life of god you

mentioned greece harriet as being alive we share now industry material like between a father son holy spirit and that i think it's it is there we realize that the wife of got itself as an ongoing like it's one of self giving giving to one to the other and sharing of their own limelight and when we enter into this through a baptism we take this letter going into us and analysts very nature is outgoing and so it it just presses us out into the service of the people to bring into this belief as you mentioned before from the very nature of the life we share even previous to the fact that we are being loved in this life of being loved finding the gift of this life yeah so now we want to share them and give them and we're called to do this because of the very life itself a

lot of guys this was the leverage at all of the dozen roll we be of these days a child at the end of those who is handicapped doesn't grow it doesn't go on and solve and trial even in a psychologically just you play with other people and the world outside of the wood it will be remade a child so that the christian really be forced to care of this as like that he received and that isn't your own is steve irwin was hardly legitimate about that person wouldn't want to get that we're faced with but we have to set in apathy know that there's this tremendous drive that should be a pottery christians wife probably isn't there isn't

a conscious evelyn most christians so you're talking about the relationship that is the mission our very early in the church and a missionary tech school preached to all nations in a father son oyster became a baptismal foreman so very early in the valley had a missionary at it oh it is oh on certain myself in for what some your comments so given that baptism is a crucial thing and then the missionary impulse in the christian god in the end i was wondering if there are other sources are poor means in the church that also grabs would be instrumental in the symbols get to that question has a ton of the baptism i was looking for to be a pianist and their power the joy and favor and grace we receive and is good news to community and

love week's puzzle another in the eucharist and he had a realization of god's presence there is tremendous make her daily renewal and perfection and fulfillment of what happened to us in baptism and at the daily source a weekly source of the mission church we might even call it a purpose of mission specialist most releasing information is too established eucharistic communities in cultures that are foreign to our nation and by doing this we we're giving the people or providing for the people of the year power to enter into the institutions of their own culture and a sanctified a problem and it's not a question of setting up a defense of the law click or group or little the militia or army it within this culture to fight off all others and maintain themselves as not their job as members of the aquatic community but as to spread the faith and the love and the confidence and the joy of christian living

to the men and women of their own nation and culture and they do this by entering into the society's in and informing of you are giving them life from within this i think is terribly important today in florida realize or to have meant no but the church is not an opponent it's not for the political party but the churches after the murder of her head christ a servant first and foremost a servant serving and providing the power out and the act itself of faith and when i think if we really had if the church really have the stands before men as a servant we read much more effective in entering into these of

these institutions such as labour and politics and economics social work education and it really giving these institutions like an unmade creating something more than just a single christian or eucharist a community that creating a christian culture i think which is our team's name right like your comment or job of the other charges a sermon in this way involving itself in the other structures of the society so standing over judging them somewhat dissipating colin structures of one and i can agree for most private with that with what you mean by it risky community but dirr says i come from a different tradition i i have more emphasis i think upon the press the us pull them were that the preached word the sermon within the mission as an instrument and they have a missionary impulse of the church i was wondering

if if you include this in your new idea this eucharist a community or are you do this the idea of the preached word are the last sermon and the missionary life of the church well i can say right off that certainly within the only sacrifice unless there is no form as they call it to readings when missiles and one of the gospels this of course is the most important part of our eucharistic service to prepare the people for that the actual offering of the gift of the jury of the changing done by the celebrant a changing of these gifts to his priestly go into the body and blood of christ and the reception forty of these communities certainly isn't destruction kind of thing keta

chemical aspect or part of the mass which we consider a right in relation to the actual film and a new christian self or you can say vote would be considered ethical to be a eucharistic service there a sense that we really understand the presence of of christ to be in the word and in the end you chris the bay is a complementary aspect of that and that service in increased exposed so that they won't they will be really couldn't you would want a separate them realistic service or you'd be on the action the main action the eucharist a community but you would be a including in the spoken word they miss the scripture being spoken guards were being spoken to the people in the instruction and part of the

eu president and one of the priests in the us in a way which you know it what you're saying is that preacher is proclaiming that are taking all and running towards a people with the good news of great celebration and the eucharist is it's also the same way bringing christ to that is an actual realization i think of this of christ and the people being united in it when you kristen and that that's a summer night as i see it in the way of christians like the christian communities like that in the eucharist and this is the not only because of their life as you mention that the impetus for this missionary attitude and activity but the un the expression that this is the highest expression of this christian life within this is your wrist

action of us to celebrate because we can go and another thing to have gene that's good about the size and being the summit new service would want to also kind of the point of departure for more missionary activity in the reception of the eucharist we're joined to the person of christ in the most intimate way closer than hand to the body and the union is more full in son to father this union of the baptists question to jesus is more full and more rich tennis and this again it's an amazing gift and

when will never quite really appreciate i think if we did maybe one reception of the eucharist one eucharistic celebrations might be the answer but again so most are still weak in helmand and indeed there was more than one there are very few of us left by all but we do need it and it is i think the real the real starting point for a real active missionary effort we receive the body and blood of christ which we take the person of christ who as we enter into his mission his mission from the father which is kind of like are you kidding is a diagram that chrysler you the letter you know it comes out of the sun come from the father and to his life and death and resurrection secures for us

read dean's us secure is a place in an enforced returns to the father and to know because if we turn to the father as jesus glorified he leaves with us to church the visible church to maintain his mission to all of those we didn't see what he was kelly grows it leaves us to do this work and he calls us at the at the eucharist the eucharist banquet and census forth to enter until fulfilling complete his mission in the world a great responsibility a great call i think a lot very much here use of the finger you especially when the eucharist has went on as they are i won't be receiving that which has been given and also a call to share that would have been done with others i somehow feel that

into putting someone in a different culture whether the foreign country or here in the states at the way he does love is going to be made real and the way in which god is going to come crashing through this person is on the way which follows one one person simply serves what makes a total set for themselves for another person i think that when you really spoke of service i think perhaps that the basis of missionary work that this was it's home to me and i think that when the words spoken in reverse where you said tom about the word being very important as well and i think that the spoken word must be accompanied by service and was be part and parcel with

service these two things come together and without one the other is not at all effective i have a little bit of cotton question cause of the approaching summer different culture with a very elaborate theory of eucharist i think that i think at the serving in the speaking to him of what is happening what has happened to oneself is a way in which they knew you know that you personally witnessed is the important thing when you're huge very definitely i don't mean to say that the research is not personally cuts in a sense it is more personal than anything else but i also feel that that interest there is no matter what church it is celebrated in is a

rather in group way of declaring our thanks for taking on that about what you're giving thanks and that when we are in harlem or in areas outside his country and we have paid and meet people where they are parliament won't be meeting people who are fighting for a good education it's a scene got activity into what is happening all around us and giving thanks for it is recognizing that they got is active in history and it's not someone's bringing something to a person's it's making someone realize what is already happening things i don't want to join them and then you're saying down with the eucharist as as a celebration should grow lot of the individual called her

i tend to feel that we have to be where the nineteenth centuries building to her four years to worship and that perhaps this will not be as meaningful for some of the different culture as it is to us and the senate will not in the future i think that we have to think of the end of something else though to remain intact it's not for us to impose our system and on somebody else but to allow them to develop their own system in and i mean it in his vision is so far into my idea of missions that i think iran is already drawing done to an imposing and not impose the reason i ask is i think that the nine people critically or ford or presentations in the past or maybe the nineteenth century thought the whole thing was imposing history is that very idea now bringing the regional religion was primarily from the western world

as coordination and worries what the station or to go and do this tension between owen impulsively window i think the distinction is in the person's attitude who is doing the imposing now the president and imposed injuring opposing something which i have which i think that you ought to have because you're not where is that person and wanting to impose something i knew because i feel that i'm so happy about having i want you to share this is learning distinction it's gonna be good news to the pagan says was good news to you know what would you do in a situation where it where christianity is not good news to go to your urine into which are a mission that perhaps is the question as the south now

i'm thinking of an article we read about and that the church in india which showed all of that and when one of the hindu religion i can't be specific and in face constant threat to christian nations drawn itself together and reinvigorate itself to oppose a christian mission is now it looks as if that there's a notice christianity that's western style we don't want that and now what's what's the opposition here should that we've withdrawn from this and say well they don't want it so we won't force in a month or two is statistical wrong end dr tried through a real throw that we do will lose for their best and our best to all i think this goes

back to what you were saying about sanctify culture wrote rather than working against iran think if every look historically at a catholic missionary every day fourteen fifteen sixteen seventeen century we'd find as far as this business of missionary adaptation goes some rather major moves i think it certainly was true that many of the european nations at the time believed that christianity was european or to make people christian i have to make the european first an hour for this full eight seed of christianity to grow in africa really had the ring so from europe and planted there and then we have these africans into it we have the same problem in good condition now a century and

i think it hits right at the basis of the problem of trying to determine which or what of christianity is to be brought to these people and one is the left home again what is what is of the cultural idiom the european cultural idiom and what is of the essence of christianity that is a question that i think every mr not only information but at home too has to ask himself almost every morning when he gets up but in order that he can maintain the heart of christianity without getting a lot of parasites hang onto it and drawing off the life of christianity and this was certainly the same argument and european effort good as it was i think about it just goes one the listeners want you out of this jesuit father read you went to china

in south korea he began right away with a real i think appreciation of the year and the chinese culture and he knew the great great necessity to adapt its vision of christianity and not bring impose the european union under the city's people very differently so great start and he began at one point and i say this in his effort instead of an astonishing a church where he settled in as dallas something something like that something like a seminar room in order to contact the old literati of the area and on our words his approach was not median evangelism should stand up on a soapbox and let the gospel right off the bat this was done by us senate race and franciscans in africa and they lost their heads rather quickly literally a far reaching

began this way and an accomplished amazing things and even as far as chinese congress overtime is concerned he gained nothing but he did take the effort to appreciate what was there as you mentioned before dawn eden going as though he were the only giver but he won in with our eyes open trying to see the good as an expression so the goodness of god that was hidden in secret of it and recognize it and draw it out and anyway he saw a possible and he sold it in this way of establishing a seminar room kind of you can do this and you did effectively because that record went on to mention about taking the people as they aren't going to them as they are and even to the extent i think we might talk on this even to the extent that you don't present the christian message

right away you know that you you spend quite a bit of time appreciating the values and the truth is that you find in this cultural and to these individuals that were dealing with its personnel content we would begin with you to that extent i would say that we will be ruined we had to include this in our approach to our what we're going to do and we would go on the mission and again taking a white says anyone could be anywhere that used to just outright where the people are activists and now and our revelation is that you know how god is approaching an end has come to him in his weakness and taken as it is and very gradually have revealed themselves as to what he is and what he expects to june would you say that that god has already active in

these cultures before the measure comes to them i would say so as i think you would have to say that an open call on with is going to say when we would come into of the pagan culture if god revealed in their pagan called for some of the art of richness of using the phrase omission or no sense is representing the church going to meet the church not to censor their two churches but there are elements in this culture that he's going to which will even complement the true that he has a but the church has really hard to say this is an example like there's a lot of thought now on oriental religions and and how they would then i've been

dimension to a lot of christian christian druze we have no notion of bell prayer and the vista says and there's another example you might provide an article right now but that that in this culture you would find you would find god speaking and adding a dimension to the truth that where we are bringing that it seems to be an important learned this is a time to consider it i thought of those kind of basic normal considerations nation today that is a principle of incarnation we can't possibly accept that culture is something as an accident too to bringing up the word of god to these people or that christianity thrives maybe in spite of a culture but that it thrives within because of that about christ coming to work and taking flesh to himself

and that giving it new value before the father one previously had been alienated there had been this gap this chasm between god and the man and his creation because of its own that's no longer true because christ has come showing of the fatherland bringing the life of god to man again is not only redeeming man forty three gaming it's a cosmic redemption and whatever isn't good or whatever is beautiful of truth whatever just is is of god and i think it is there that we are to look maybe that basic we must be hard to find god in these cultures sometimes that the moral practices of about one or other court will be incredible will have a great throttle trying to see through kind of the goodness in terms of some of these people but i think with the idea of faith that the incarnate christ has

provided or given us apart a seaweed that with this kind of sixth sense gives us the ability to do this so seeing it would be i think seeing what is what is of good that is there one is people think the eye that the party elders well dempsey i have faith in the sense that you weren't would look great to the culture and the nba was humiliating and some practices known and judge it by the past experiences consensus was this is the crisis of the early church that day i can imagine you he said it might be difficult for us to see some all practices in another country is being out capable of increased and i can imagine a year a jewish christian come from jerusalem going to the desperate to see the gentile christians and believing pretty strongly that the non circumcision and eating at these bees and clean foods was incompatible with christian and was really paul's contribution and affection in the

church but then i got a ride on essentials and to what really was important and these ritual actions weren't necessarily an essential this is very interesting why have you know and you are just sensitive pretty well on paul's alma mater paul's way of bringing the good news to the gentiles and he makes a very good point on it just brings the newness of the fullest and leaves uncertainty the us us the church that he's found to take a message and put it into his own understanding of song forms and our super imposing on a kind of just

giving it to spark the christians mark mason and then it grows of itself has its own hierarchy in his phone eucharistic service know it's considered a grocery aisle so what's their unit that is plans to see the goods full it's there but he keeps coming back to you water yes our second place it is very worried about the fact that he cannot get back to those churches which he has been involved in there for us letters i think in a sense words he's the hairy was saying the same thing that when we say that there is something totally new being brought to those of a culture is disappointed about bart before and here you are doing it we can

and adoption one element point out here with these this is the way to go is missionaries in a good morning and make the call to themselves the vulcan can understand originally last year and probably follow all as it mentions and i would have a year and only a vacuum as of next to chance it i think there's a lot that even offers particularly in the area its responsibility by a local assembly of the responsibility of a building up their church and allowing initiative even to the extent where they might be some mistakes and you have to come back in a way to write a letter about to check up occasionally has another go off but i think there's a lot to offer only an arrow a basic attitude we go to wait and new culture poetry unit general

running now to where it is that we don't impose too much report on impose a structure that really doesn't belong there this is this is a kid so theoretically own in concrete oh yeah well this particular parishes particular area in the world how is this done is practically possible but i think you know a mirror of what our attitude is when we go to these people that he has a lot to contribute and one argument against this is that is a missionary goes to somebody for five years the people there that the north koreans i went through all these missionaries will be here for five years in the knees to leave us for that shows that he isn't really interested in so it will very much tension wears enough on comes in and

a kid is like to be a missionary they're there they're like it's better because this man obviously likes them well enough that he's going to stay with them i think they you know they can outnumber the approach when a man does come for the life sustaining explain what he's therefore that this god is london and christ and this is the life that is he's given to them and i from the beginning how individuals in the community exercise responsibility so that at the periodic believe is it that i think that they could get the wrong impression that he doesn't like them i mean in a sense because you're on the morning of a few years of not really that much interested in if he from the beginning gets the image of themselves as giving everything well as being the man with all the answers and without me you

can't feel anything you know what if they have that image of buildings or what he does leave it'll mean you know he's not really interested in us but it could bring them to understand that his purpose in being there is due to give them a an impetus of growth themselves and give them the responsibility of its a really its much true love no american help another man groaned self and also an extremely paternalistic all the time i think a good example to be a test to christ's own training school for the apostles how long to have him have them with him before he sent them on the first missionary journey it was a very short time a year you'd have many i mean many of the principles we're going to be going on

and using example foreign missions can reapply very readily to any parish where communities that the takeaway this area there was local apathy and we kind of convey to christians that christianity is there are receiving type of religion that you you just have to sit there listen and take notice doesn't enjoy it all i don't know whether we buy as puzzle other people in those views really converted are they as pagan as people were originally on the market with them and i think the question we have to

ask is not only are those people and those pews really converted but and i along with those people recognizing their common to switch which stands for our human this are we converted or if we are on the road if we had converted and we're on the road to becoming an adult rather than the child within christianity what is happening ruby and bp impossible to trade to try to bring them to a state of conversion know saying some of the dynamism of of christianity and if we ask those distant apathetic i think to the foremost by the clergy for music isn't it these were as an agreement and going into a the stage that is becoming less and less so involved to be up so you really had a sense of where

we're really quite worried and we were being asked questions know why we're having and we have more of an unconscious christianity and the country's christian congregations and it related to what you hear on in colorado to get to medical spirit that this is i think kind of charges enter the state of asking questions and trying to to see the essential dynamism of christianity the cut because it is it's making us go right back to the essentials and asking what is a christian and what is the church and what is what is he agrees to community and that and doing this and that brought us to that the realness of christianity and see an ad that led us to see the economy between what we know to be true and what's actually occurring in congregations and a

coming to this point i think it's it seems that we've reached a point of conversion ourselves at least he's seen indeed we need to be converted and that this is a very healthy sign to conveying this to our congregations without any you know and he falls into the story you you've got a popular harry died dying in with this or agreeing an awful lot here and i don't think that at all and if they get the flu if we were on the field we would like to find a few more runs between those i think we would run into a lot more problems canyon and babies by a couple points well lula now on oh jesus call to the missionaries you'd get in

organize a small community to carry on leave and they keep checking back on it ought to do i don't know is i haven't read any articles on the psychology of people who in misrata a couple of these articles in the low points or intruding into season when you get into a position where it where the boys over a small group like this like well you know only valid as this is the kind of practical problem apart from the history and i think we've come up another one might be that one of the mortars that sometimes comes up from going and emissions is it a failure to adopt a debt fully to our american culture or a justice but it has its parallel in the mission field with the people we managed to convert or become because they convert christianity outcast from the

rest of their culture and at the same time they may be converting because cats already and i think this is a real problem that as is rare occasions in theory to a particularly when we talk about the sanctified called you're working through culture this decision to work if the people for converting it upsets if they are if they are a liar and so were made a big statement that theory about wayward way it's a change there are many theories you know what they would say which is marginal person is on the margin of a community most likely to change what's likely to accept something new would like to balance the old you know and but there's one just one more society that something for another ocean but another thing to her and this is a question of the

supposed to serve french people and the people or of history do come in i think it's a question simply of who's coming to us now that where there was a question to afford going out to i think in any organization with within any structure certainly leaders are an important part of that structure and to maintain it and keep it going and build from within i certainly feel are looking at you know sitting inside and looking out to the eventuality of them missions into years that this would be an important part of think of any work and i would be interested in what would be a kind of talent scouting runaway who's there that is influential what other part structures within this culture and maybe we can begin there and not simply with the people who need bread though they're very end the remedial need is great but

they wreak preventive care a bit like the important aspect or entering into the russians in this way to prevent it and maybe not a higher level i mean high intellectual level of the university within the instructor of politics or economics or labor entering on all levels because christianity is calling every man every cultural level and in this way i think we would be insured of getting a cross section of christian and building a whole church you know would be a church an intimate in nature but to let the moment in its early stages but i would be representative church just simply represent communities that's simply a certain few who have guest singer who want to join this new group that wore a practical or we drive on some incredible implications

are really are sitting here one your attitude towards of was a protestant missionaries it's at your ear you mean i am the live in a town of the midwestern course the prices of catholics and a lot of work with the migrants the spanish lyrics and for the past several years the legion groups in baltimore and so we're going to make him placed blame on one side of the other and really had done of the controversies and i think the whole project is sutter because at the end of the inner city or your reaction to how you are protestant world say to countries where you might go i knew my viewpoint her time there that there was a presumption that was a presumption that latin america was a catholic country i think kurt ewen you in the forces of the social ocean of a typical mindedness and because spanish doesn't mean you're catholic they won't be a full catholic human services same and we have our own passions is in my view at

a metal only team show group a third term since june we have a new generation that will be inclined to think that the one that worked because greece the position of these people are catholics have you're coming in to personalize our people that was a resumption of meth labs and of an older generation that that were given that america has said you think that your captor people who are injured and no one else can possibly to live with her viewpoint is a real disability because of that catholic or a plant or fall catholic church and things i believe the mayor here the truth is the truth and they'll make your question which is the baptism the brutal quest the center while cooperate any way that i could and within my conscience and within the area so much i think it's a year if nothing else that protestant mission and catholic mission in

a small village if they themselves don't do with the sense of friendship then it's got one black mark against an overview of the beginning i think this is it might be hard for us to really the non christian police issues these various christians coming to him saying that this is this is the truth and i'm a christian and christianity is christian religion of love and then that he doesn't want to speak or even as kerry but only antagonistic towards the summonses i am a christian to and so in a sense we're lying really in a living and living life he and i were going to that i think the younger generation is sam wore that there's so many areas we can cooperate community development of a small area yet

the education of area evenly shared a common scriptures tell them that there's some areas we can cooperate in the group last minute i might get one thing out again this is secondhand but it's from a speaking to priests has recently returned from the orient and i asked him about this very question not come on the collaboration cooperation between protestant missionaries and traffic crashes and it was in formosa and he said that unfortunately we couldn't have much because if the catholic priest or to be seen visiting the whole of the protestant minister or working alongside him publicly that it was this caused confusion in the minds of the new christy it's at least the catholic christians to the point that they might end up saying well

one must be as good as the other it doesn't really make any difference which group wherein they all seem to be doing the same thing and why don't i can go then from one church to the other and we know this not to be true again though ironically it is a question of law simply shooting down the next and then in the next parish it because he happens to be protestant mission or simply in order to avoid all confusion i think that that somehow of friendship should be maintained kind of love by long distance or something i would however has to be done i don't know but just because i cannot be any visible contact to speak of serb nation result an antagonism than just unusual exclusion of one another life itself you know but it is a problem that does cause a lot of confusion people and that for

that reason at least at the moment they can't be any serious invisible cooperation an external things from a break in here john this is precisely where i start to react way down inside my visceral to me never having been in a situation where the priest in the mission field perhaps whether greece will be in contact with a protestant minister their administration it perhaps should not be speaking here but i can imagine myself being extremely disturbing on the whole idea of two churches and of one not being as ryder good as the other in your case now on to me the thing i want want to be concerned about would be that person who can do the scene of the the

minister going to the catholic parish house and sees me was involved in this person's life is christ and this insofar as he is related to his immediate friends and his immediate associates that is both the priest and a minister it seems peter hassett right in the mission field we have oh traffic possibility a terrific new a reason to re look the agreement at the time the way in which we come to people that which is essential to christianity and i think it is the person's relationship to christ and the person's religion to those were about him well

one thing it has really done is how are we going to have handled the differences that exist in fact there are two churches in fact there are two two men of god american listeners for example in this small town and how are we to explain away the year the difference is that they are too and that they are acting somewhat differently and the dodgers is a different whereas the number of christians don't really demand two churches with you you have them they seemed to end on one a problem to explain the differences other words if there were no differences so why the ecumenical council one that has closed down a certain number of them and have us all one family which we pray god will be sometime soon as far as the the destruction of the people goes there are different doctrinal differences which make us different from you and you're in your doctrine that make you different

from us i don't think we're doing the people a favor to give the impression that one is as good as a mother or that there are no differences even those people may be may be very simple they have to i think appreciate the fact of the differences and be made to understand the differences i think in doing this certainly an mri in our context with that you fellows you're doing and this is certainly done this for me and others told me to appreciate the late but talking with you on coming down on us battalion shows here at the same there you know we certainly do work but i haven't and sent me a new appreciation of my own faith and abandoned doctoral position position of catholicism as result of the dialogue that we experienced i just feel it vetted if the people are so simple that at this point that that it demands

that they're not be having a great visible contact it seems to me are at this point we have to respect that in spite of the in spite of the pain of this division that we feel ourselves as men who are a little bit further schooled in the geological sciences and who very likely pursue union america ray after you know ways that are simple questions at a time to not do i think we're close ties with myself and as usual us into question john mica now would be offended by one we walk and then you you know i think that may have been offended by mr taylor isn't as good as another segment i meant that in two ways they didn't have a sense that a different place he argues that the nsa is intended

as a lion out in a facility in a follow richard dicker as debate the difference between one the one of physiology is better than another i think it's important for us here at seminary but not so important to the person who's being confronted with the demand for the opportunity for new life would use si se putting ourselves in this position of this village well or there's a station that we could explain we could present christianity to these people because they're a prominent people that time we do have differences but we have many things and competently got our relationship with christ as all little cold air can finally live together in a small area gene doesn't really didn't usually the way up warren is

rather than people hear me saying that protestantism is the true christian way and they hear you say that catholicism as the truth which christian way they say to questions which light up whereas if we cut together would be confusing act likewise you point oh i'll all confusion would result does this all mean the amazing thing to me is there are divisions are certain that it's in the missionary feel that that historically the passenger found out about this week it became game where are the missionary feel truly ecumenical movement and i sure what all through this is capt sure but isn't a week after the shade of you know i would hope that at least in an area of friendship and

you know you mean like the corman suggestion of like an appealing collection catholic church big one collection of the protestant church but this this this basic error friendship that we would present christianity as a religion of love i actually would agree on all this discussion of christian mission then the second in a series of a lot of styles on these programs you're invited to drop as it were on a part of a continuing dialogue and fellowship between roman catholic students of mary moore cemetery near austin in new york and students of the non denominational union theological seminary in new york city participating in this happens discussion from marrying all have been john darling gene toland and richard ramsey union students participating are gone probably tom matthews and harry's shave nice scene greek heard on this program from the american folk mass

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