Knapp Commission Hearings; Tape 3

yesterday komen phillips testified extensively about his personal experiences and payoffs and rather startling day he told a system organize system called on the pad and extended throughout the police department from patrolman to sergeant lieutenant the captain inspector he told of christmas lists whereby policeman went around to various talisman bars dance halls and so forth collecting money and liquor christmas so it was a traffic he said that often members of the recent would be bumping into each other coming into another and these establishments today sean philips has to testify about his activities as an undercover investigator for the nap commission and were killed are going to be a series of recordings played let's hope the quality of those recordings are better than they were on monday those who were

listening to what they call a lot of the conversations very difficult to follow that we're wearing our it we're doing the background what's expected today or series of tape recordings of conversations the political issue

is back the testimony that was unusual in my experience in that he gave extensive details that i had never heard before and of the chairman of a commission with the nap remarked this concluding statement yesterday that he believes commissioner been able to intervene before a witness the details in such a pristine sort of breath as george fields but yes he has fourteen years on the police force as i mentioned earlier and has served in various parts of the city so speaks from a product there's no he's a policeman but the broad

experience in various places around the city john phillips testified that during his fourteen years in the department he had never known a policeman in twenty fourteen more than two month did not grab that he had never found a construction site foreman did not pay the precinct police made the point that you have such a variety of laws to which someone building a new state house to hear that it becomes impossible for someone to build a building without violating one or two of those laws or five or six so obviously a situation ripe for a policeman to come in and threaten to enforce one of the multitude of regulations and essentially under construction so i'm going to put your thoughts every one who's building something a new york

city policeman as a matter of routine and the potomac is being guarded by what is believed to be more than a half dozen policemen men that they got about a nominee who's been reporting what has the evidence that is presented to the commission has led to the question of more than half a dozen police and by a federal grand jury and tom your times reports recently that one of the trauma not was mentioned in monday's testimony coleman walter writer who had been depicted at the hearings in the first day of recorded conversations was depicted as having agreed to accept dr of twenty five dollars to change his testimony in a case involving the

bottom of the cyber arsenal has been reassigned and is under investigation according to the nearest also honest testimony a staple mcphillips talked about the gamblers and their relationships with the police and one small precincts camera for seventy thousand dollars a month and gratitude at various levels of the police and there's one in japan the money goes to more than just individual form a whole series of payments on the beat to the precinct division but one operation are still waiting for members of the commission to

assemble to begin the third day of public hearings on this commission which has spent the last eighteen months investigating the new york city police department and is now making its funding this as public and as chairman said the purpose of these hearings is not particularly to exponents individual policemen but to expose a system and as it's being the system as has been pictured in these hearings is one of pervasive corruption throughout the new york city police department in fact tom phillips testified yesterday that particularly in plainclothes division that if a team of the plainclothes force is not undertake essentially ends up being transferred out

to be an unwelcome and his fellows i mentioned earlier that was you're listening we'll call up there was a bomb scare midway through hearing yesterday there was no other result of that clearing the room where everyone and delaying the hearings about an hour they resume and has had the result of tightening of security here everyone coming in the enduring chamber here and the association are the city of new york with forty fourth street is that's for dedication and during a bank that its search

and presumably the building has been secured since yesterday there is about to begin the chief counsel michael armstrong told a philips another table facing chief counsel john wooden and just bang the galleys will go there and we will win the third day of public hearings on this essential public hearings on corruption within the iraqi political corruption according to yesterday's witness who will continue to testify today is pervasive

throughout all areas of the new york city police are still waiting for one year as a slum it was a commission our diets our chief counsel michael armstrong and his assistants this is a senator coleman thought that steve just like the un briefly some of the money that was a connection with

and a small head a lot of people police making less money in washington dc and

any one on one situation now after reading your attention specifically to the ceo ds lot you remember that just was sixteen and senate to follow tomorrow as planned he's been eclipsed i mean this is business

venus new orleans all right and to play it twenty sixteen anastasia

is it it was so innocent and he's doing it and i'm melissa block

what year is this who is it this is you know this is normal wasn't

sure there was a lot of navy and that makes the lonely he says sees seas plainclothes

we're defining small it's impossible for him to go on a hold of the civilians on the navy for five hundred and eighty six men and sometimes the nation's one thousand two hundred inmates or their mission changes this is the situation information on one room on fire all

right none of the year nominees the money he's here he's playing the patient you know before let's listen

only a recent information said two weeks ago to fifteen million in the past six years seven in nineteen eighty nine and it's two in queens and sixty seventy six this is

the problem some people on the line now so

the rodents with goldman and horses with these possibly can so they had all these people need to mention that this is the year for excellence as a us who are or your goals so this is

from a well yes it was the same way as a new pricing is not a monolithic siphon operation going south that when you know in india sergeant in some cases in many cases the captain and what a

robbery of thousands of patients twenty three those below martin in some places these songs it's a fifty seventy five forty years it

is so close so if you visit you know yes he is both

you know there's we had to do it twenty one point for fixing this

supports her these days yes it's an office the most are the numbers actually has been frozen on the way to an

end who is it honestly is it these facilities complete fiction fifteen

this is good let's go the number is increasing any reasonable someone's head oh no

you see two months it's between sunni leaders be getting it has been the point is if you can speaking thai

and though the world but there are many different situations involving the movie you close the mood that you've become a victim new research is finding workers who will be an

op ed we're the halftime defendant with in your testimony and that many cases where you have an occasion where the defendant through the work of the ground and the cliff another way that you can the time and we actually never lost sight of the year and the question also this case was also with any indicators in the area is close by in

the job roman says these difficult moments her work is a screen printer or the cyclone came up with a program of this is the first time is a transforming into plainclothes between ten and fifteen years of service and the idea being

that if he's going to be a more responsible and in fact isis will come up and that we used to have people i was assigned to the music happening with thirty four police officers mr cs it is we arrived in dc violations and some of the soldiers involved in this particular operation reform and there were

five or six to one this one the situation in the system throw in serious trouble we will have to rely as possible in the midst of some of the individuals we're not going to be happy with it but after a few days i feel like a novel system we listen to chris was absolutely getting close because of money

disney rules in this instance we have a very queasy this is the week

he came back this week mama supply business as usual animal it's not a change because our citizens united has used it in what companies are checking out and they came to me and he says it with panelists what was fifteen and i said the reason that they can communicate because a least two months and there's an immunity they will go up in the cockpit so that forced the hand can constantly has to do with a whole regiment investment management very

simple mm hmm we had a discussion it's about how to be possible for him to go out in a sense that if you can not snowing once

a political system but courses on top if it the money it's been now he's back neither there's bees

look at me in specific locations for the operation in this clip oh nice this

i was thinking when the visa is a lot of walking in all this no it has before

if he has a case once police uniform well there's yes this individually he

said it your total and it was the reason that we're all right i have some knowledge of history the meantime he had given this individually we met the fifties this is weekend edition this operation it's been fine locations before

within weeks the conversation continues the location is better this is

the peak the first month this is long distance i would like to have made it was impossible how far he could reach out to anyone to me in the end it is the vision which isn't what it is basically he said that

he was recently in an annex to bring results in the fourth edition of the meeting and discuss what the fourth division and so the contract was ok last night it was written by a person who was in the plate the difference i think with

political issues today's second division club we discuss the imminent in the course of the conversation so there's

no money the pianist yes he had one operational vision this is also a conversation ok a questioning about your crackling was involved in non gambler like in a lot of places like an individual or is it it was used to

before at locations and again with the more permissive well i'll have that you're looking for locations i discussed one particular area of your first day and i said oh no that's why you have to give and what is it like in the forties fifties and sixties the preoccupations of the continent we're getting

an update washington dc they were quitting then in each division or was known and he did say though it thirteen and twenty men were not as active as the individuals whether they were twenty ten season is only ten guys are constantly making school wasn't conscious of the so called un says they got there that audience available but they just sat back the money home and within the largest yet the initial discussion about the immediate and

he was yes they've also gone on the lady they discussed that even though it can be a million and it was when the huntsman contract recently and they weren't innately yes yes we also discuss the how the game would be recognized by the competition discuss the kind of them have given the region of the conflict between the members of the cracking

and making sure that the place where these people are here this symphony for the division is that the patient was making several footsteps of one us of the idea that if you walk away oh yes in this conversation may leave because he was on the stand where he was fixing the case with again the findings

yes it is the ski slopes when lena rose was always working he was dismissive you know

with a record of the only like to usually used in it is it has come under fire yes we do let's listen to the paintings the man who made up together with these conversations

we also discuss the situation and the publicity i can put a hand on a level that was before the economy that was like this and that he was going to try to increase the use of us in this cause this time they had the service he was he was a buying clothes mainly one of the boxes and they have they call centers which are discussed before woods outside civilians picking up the money to get into the office and then being cheered that assistance was

the poignancy if you were it is weird it's in the same

location and misapplies past the series has been set the pay

is better both this is it it's been second day

basically this morning's testimony seen in a station that's john phillips recorded surreptitiously lawyers investigative commission now when he opposed it again when michael phillips and trying to set up i mean gambling operation in israel's focus of this operation was to to see how far they can penetrate into the police establishment in midtown manhattan until with the tapes went wrong speed waiting for that the state no one's really hear the tapes they will be

stationed between the trauma phillips now the pentagon has been christian right to

propose we are problem played tapes of the audience here our pension systems the tensions the audio system here there are a great many television cameras and presumably that may be falling of the electronic age fb