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     Political Issues in Christian Perspective - No. 1, Poverty: The Challenge
    Before Us - John D. Rockefeller, IV
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in los angeles in the general hospital on june first nineteen twenty six a girl was born by the name of norma jean her childhood could be described as that of oliver twist in girls' clothes both her maternal grandparents and her mother were committed to mental institutions or uncle killed himself and her father died in a motorcycle accident when she was very young during her mother's day and asylums she spent time in twelve different foster homes when she was eight her mother had a complete nervous collapsed and was taken away from his to a hospital norma jean was sent to an orphanage at eleven she went to live with the guardian a friend of her mother's who could not afford to keep it in the next five years the child was batted back and forth from family to family between twelve different homes or when she was sixteen she was married
for the first time she had developed a star two successive marriages and divorces with two american male rivals one an athlete and one an intellectual led to her final suicide she was of course marilyn monroe in new york city in nineteen fifty three a probation officer for the bronx children's court began to develop concerns about a fatherless showing persistent <unk> from school investigation revealed that the boy who lived with his mother in a three room apartment house somewhere in your while his mother worked the boy stayed at home all day watching television he gave as his excuse the fact that his classmate kidded him for having a southern
drawl the probation officer and talking with the boy found them to be withdrawn friendless alone and basically unwanted after repeated attempts to get help for the boy the mother a great to have a solo courtside titus look at him but it seemed to be too light and last year on this boy grown men who had pulled the trigger to kill president kennedy now these are visible and dramatic examples of juvenile delinquency a party but almost all examples arnott dramatic are not visible they are not visible to you into why this is one of the great facts of poverty the region where i am working is in west virginia
in appalachian this is where the great of american party is most ponders most deadly than most invisible people who travel through the appalachian region you know the appalachian region it's nine states including part of pennsylvania going down through parts of southern virginia west virginia kentucky tennessee alabama other nine states and all the great mountain ballads or party as its most grinding and desperate self and its most invisible self you live in new york you've seen something of perhaps you don't know a party in appalachian well it used to be that people said that if you talk to if you didn't talk about poverty it would disappear now are more sophisticated now we say that maybe if we talk about
poverty it will disappear so let's talk a little bit about poverty in appalachian particularly in the area where i'm sorry let's take a family the mullens family i know them well personally their representative all families all across the appalachian region they live in a place called cabin creek in west virginia it's not far from charleston the state capital when i let me describe to you cabin creek first of all a bit of its history as you know west virginia used to be a great band still owes a great coal mining area cabin creek was one of these coal mining areas even during the depression there was such a great demand for coal that these people were relatively prosperous they came from surrounding areas to go into cabin creek to call to mind they were doing alright their lives were completely controlled by the
company and later by the union the company buried in the company so they were born to company educated than the company built churches for them the company build stores for them everything was done by the company and later by the union and there was ok but then came the war second world war and then came mechanization today four men can do much more efficiently what fifteen and used to be able to do a cabin crew and west virginia is very instinct everyone has for this reason the coal industry is there is is a leading industry in what america's future problems are going to be because it's the first highly automated mechanized industry where people have been thrown out of work totally they have these enormous machines now that bush were
strong backers of mr men are necessary anymore so the company's of left the unions because of the depleted membership arnott powerful united mine has what is to lead these people they have nothing nothing to do but consider where having precarious consider where most of these people an appalachian live it's a mountainous region the mountains come down like this and then the bright bottom is a little flat planes usually with a stream running down into the hierarchy very and for all but the people are there the coal isn't there the corps wasn't being mined by them what is there to do that on all the land they live on that along the house they live in the company doesn't take care of the what are they to do not consider try and imagine one of these little
creaks old clapboard houses instead of having eyes dart out on the ground in coal dust why you knew a scratch your leg you leave a black plays is your hands in your fingers and your hair in your face because of loopholes so that the streams are polluted nothing to grow nothing to do everywhere and nobody cares about these people you see every once in a while have a political election than the politicians come out in the hollows as they call them these creeks into the hollows and that all about what they're going to do for them and then the next time they see them as three weeks before the election four years later they have no communication they're cut off from the world outside where everything happens i'll give you an example the federal housing authority makes available loans of one thousand dollars
for anybody who owns his own house and his own land and who wants it and who is under certain economic deprivation income below a certain level some of these people in the halls qualify for that some of them do on their own land now since nineteen forty june west virginia these loans have been available but the people accept that i'm never talking to some of these people myself i said nobody had ever gone from charleston from the state government to tell them that these things are available to you they didn't care so i went out and told him about these things i did all you have to do is sign your name on this piece of paper and you will have a thousand dollars that really works like that and they said last time we sign onto something we lost our jobs and they don't trust the state the poor the
powerful there is such a vacuum years and years of taking these people for granted and edgar's people say i saw i spoke to a man the other day a friend of mine shelves and he said i am which is true you know they buy those people's votes out there in the hole as they go out and they pay him five dollars or fifteen dollars of all depending on how important elections about he said to me don't you think if a person is living on welfare and isn't able to make an intelligent automation have the right to vote it's ignorance these people are taking advantage of because they don't know they don't know the system why shouldn't except five thousand fifteen dollars nobody's ever done anything for a republican or democrat fifteen dollars or fifteen dollars they can be taken advantage of because they're ignorant they don't know the system everybody can take advantage of that and nobody comes to help them and when i'm talking about these people i'm not
talking about up to three thousand i'm talking in west virginia alone about two hundred and fifty thousand people which is a good fifteen percent of the population these people don't have any faith nothing ever a good has happened to them in the hall in the last fifty years last twenty years and they have no reasonable either anything good is going to happen they haven't given up that take the subject of education everybody says that if you educate a child you'll do better if you have education you can go out and get your work well in the first place only one percent of patents in any of these hollows thousands of miles across west virginia an appalachian one percent of them have high school education you know if you need to read the daily news you need a fifth grade education these people by large carry
the daily news was the readout a third grade level my children there are eleven players are delivered certainly you very rarely role in the boys and girls who go past tense great why well i was education necessary for the father he was a coal miner he needed a strong bat he hauled a stocky didn't read edge jason was not necessary for him he doesn't have an education was not necessary for the mother she does not have it now one of the reasons you go to school in new york or anywhere else because you made total all your parents make it will these parents don't care whether to know the school and they have at an abstract idea it's a good thing but there is no model to fall for the children so the children don't go and you know what you know west virginia even if they
wanted to go sometimes they can't they have a law which says that any child living more than two miles beyond the end of the paved road doesn't have to go to school and you know the most most roads in the hollows or pay i have yet to see a paved road and how i took that i have a i have a buick in west virginia i have a friend who has a buick he got their year before i did he has he's gone through three of you i mean that's a lot now supposing the child dead ones go to schools opposing a child did go to school now this is what he would face in the first place in west virginia or as they used to have these one room schools all over the hulk remember these are big these are high heels if you want to go from one creeps across the mound to another great you don't you know go to the mountain you go around this is rugged isolated terrain where these villages are two or three hundred people are
so west virginia has been consolidating its schools i don't know if they have that you feel you've been doing out here in new york i doubt they've been getting rid of the one room school where there were granted twelve the twelve year age spread but there was the security of the teacher that you knew the language that you knew things that were relevant to your life all around you they've been consolidating these things getting rid of the one room school bring the schools more into more urbanized areas well obviously that means the children have to come is going to come when if they're able to get to the school who they come up against a middle class society how they arrive in shabby clothes without shoes many and how are the kids dressed in school middle class children in nice neat clean clothes never ever put yourself in that sort of position what you wanna do what you wanna
go to a school like that these people are homeless you know they say and they say in west virginia they say down there that the difference between a mountain near the hillbilly is that amount near sits on his rock and a hillbilly sits on his rock rocks but that the people down there they don't want to go into a middle class society where people wouldn't laugh at them because the middle class children are needed they lead to all these you know they know how to use a telephone get in an elevator did a lot of basses they can talk about bobby darin saturday in all sorts of things and these are hillbillies i remember talking to a boy i was in one of the holiday and he had a bruise on it doesn't work together he said i was i went to embarrass countries that have over the other side and it was a fairly big committee of about two or three thousand people die so why'd you come back to survive in like all i could do was fight ms
leahey well there he is a hillbilly big short tobacco spit in the candies middle class children and that that's a very worn but they picked up as children will and the only way he knew how to fight with with two fans so and actually that fulfill the middle class image of what the hillbilly was like oh what chance to see her why does he want to take on something like that while we ask that he be so courageous that you know in spite of things of that sort of what about the teachers he's consolidated schools the teachers enjoy having known billy's command they're under educated they're behind their slow readers their heart in class because they're not accustomed to that sort of discipline so what does the board of education to the board of education takes the best teachers and puts them in the most urban situations with a basket and the teachers that have the black marks however doesn't determine they're the ones were sent out to
these french schools we're that where you have these problems that teachers resent being sent that they resent the children from the hulls they don't want to work with them and they don't know how to communicate with them so what does this do to a child's desire to be in school in cabin creek in the mom's family some of them went to school or one of the little girls was going to school when i was there the teacher had to give her a lot of sugar a couple lots of sugar every day at noon time why without any food should all day until the dinner or how does a child concentrate how does a child learn how does a child have motivation if i can even have the physical strength to do these things and this is what happens day after day year after year in west virginia roads from november through april are practically impossible
that means the titular we're going to walk that there's no buses coming together remember that law it's a chilling to walk for five ten miles or something of that sort in the snow then they'll get to school but will these things piling up with a gun to do it well you see the patterns you see the pattern how can you possibly say to this child you should be going to school how can you walk up to his mother and father and say why are just sending their kid to school you see people in the cities they say all i do is sit around relaxed do nothing they don't care about education they don't care about war well just consider what you've heard about what their life was like and put yourself in their position would you if your heart or would you if you were a child or i take the jar work
even if they didn't have education when they go out and get some kind of work is the living on welfare like most undo this is in the approach all of us from the time we were four five we said when i'm when i grow i want to be a black mechanic a senator something we all have lots of alternate lots of ideas of what we like to be depending on what we want to be that's the way we pursue in school and there was often the dream of being able to be something i doubt whether we would go to school often if we had arch origin of our parents were pushing it a lot as a child in the hall have to look at what is the model which you can fall one thing a truck driver why a truck driver because the man who came back and forth with the call was a truck to happen you want to be a mechanic how can he would be a detective has never seen anyone to be a schoolteacher now we get to see them anyway schoolteachers that's not that's not the
real manly stuff in the halls it's much more satisfied dropping out of school than you do by staying so housing is a risk if they go for what you want to be and don't do it they say that a lot more quality that's wrong in charleston west virginia which is a right passed his committee i've talked lots of my friends and they say sure we're willing to help these people but then on to help themselves though on a work or that isn't true that job with the stabilization and then on the hall's i one of the halls and all you have to do is talk with these people we'll do anything good has a chance and we will do it we don't know how what can we do with the program i'm working for is trying to help them to show that these people can do things i never stopping in a schoolhouse when it was all a mother that had a young had a family of six and i said you're on welfare and she said no then someone i've said if you use euro well for you hadn't got no show at
i've met enough people like this and then the boys and girls who want to work in spite of everything that i've told you to make polio the statements people are prefer welfare work the trouble is they don't have a choice because i haven't got the work and they're the welfare issues let me tell you about one more and that was very typical i was walking again in cabin creek and were in a little place called dried branch and i came to a boy who was very typical nice looking overalls and bigelow right here this lump was not a bruise a lot and that i didn't have to ask what that was because i knew in the hollows nobody's ever
brush their teeth in the time there was a they don't have those that means they get tremendous teeth and don infections now you say this point why don't you go get a job to consider the one fact of teeth how if you have the sensitivity of a boy from the hills going into an urban its gentle sort of an urban area which is where after all the jobs always are and there are plenty of midwest region how do you have the courage to even go up to admit it every time you smile is nothing brown just insert one little fact i knew he had his work on the side he readily facing away like this he didn't want me once in the arm and he was seventeen i was with a friend of his you look me once in the arm just tea plus the fact that if the
boys to go into town he doesn't he's never been for example in our letters opposing went to the state employee relations up on the fifth floor and some in some state building in charleston west with a jobs bill it goes in there he gets into moving oil is scared out of his mind how what kind of condition is he and to go after a job even if you know what he thought he wanted or what he thought he could do getting onto a bus painted time that sophisticated stuff making a telephone call that is sophisticated stuff he doesn't know how to do those things he's scared he's young he's in the outside world without confidence without experience without education on the bottom of the heat but in this country we don't think that much so we don't we would never think of asking
a man who was critical to get out and walk across the street leaving nothing of asking children of this or whether there in west virginia in harlem in the bronx in los angeles we think nothing of of condemning them for not going and getting work in education and there is not much difference and when i talk about west virginia i'm talking about me or to the basic symptoms the basic frustrations the basic problems the matriarchal society all the things that go along with poverty are to be found in the same principles in new york as they are in west virginia mobilization for youth has undergone a lot of attack recently i regret that very much because i spent time with a project and now it's an outstanding projects the people are some of the most dedicated acts of people i've ever seen and i didn't know what to do with them watching what they do the problems in the bronx the problems and hari you in
harlem the basic problems of the boys and the girls are the same ones they're more sophisticated you're forty four it religion that's the only thing the fellow in the hall has his religion and they really have trouble is it's far more worldly and big promises it emphasizes what's coming because everybody knows what human isn't that anti have you ever thought what it would do to your own ambitions that have nothing to do from the time you're ten until you're twenty four eighteen hours a day with no games no recreational areas what do you do you ask a western and they walk up and down the road they can't they say a car they whittle the one is that i do what is that due to a man's ambition so they live on
public welfare we condemn them and then a lot of the other but then got an insurance because there's no work for them and they got no way of getting it well anyway this is across the state of west virginia twenty five percent of all boys between the ages of fifteen and nineteen in west virginia have left one fourth of all boys between the ages of fifteen nineteen have left the state incredible west virginia's population has some seven point two percent in the last several years and it ended at a time when we're all growing and there's work to do in west virginia this work for these people do is a hungry labor market west virginia but these people and i get it you go the teachers i can show you schools in maryland and florida where the
teachers are trained in west virginia their west virginians but they left there's a dynamic of depression in that state which is overwhelmed so saul and those were the main reasons i went there because i think that's a it's if something can be done in west virginia by heaven's it can be done it on a place is when are we going to do about it this is one little problem is some of the most wonderful people you'll ever meet is west virginians they're extremely proud and eric's family friendly they're kind of don't talk to forty five is for they ask what your neighbors they are huynh people and that hurts to see them like that when they're just as finding you know you know that it was a major war for an actor something great in your cell you might've been born that child the fact that you want is no reflection on you
see and that hurts so we don't know you can't just give people money annually that's that's what creates this that would create dependency see these people are dependent are dependent on what they don't know they're dependent on money has no chance to break out as they say of the cycle of poverty so what you have to do is to change their ability to break out you have to give them the ability to get a job gives them the ability to get an education given the ability to deal with the great system which is the outside world and that's exactly what the president's committee and now with the war on poverty is trying to do president kennedy set up in nineteen sixty one sixteen demonstration projects across the country one of which was charleston another which was a mobilization for youth another which was
more all over the plunge in different communities where poverty is a fact and they are trying to be experimentally demonstrate that if you do certain things with children with the community they're certain things will happen action for appalachian unit which is the program in charleston i'm working with is comprehensive as they all you have to attack this problem from many points of view from community development from education from job training and from what they call neighborhood services by attacking the cycle of poverty for many points of view you hope that a combination of factors will allow the youth to break out and stand on his own fate what is the goal to get to break that dependency to break that dependency and make him able to stand on his own two feet but you gotta do this without making him a wealthy wealthier part of the worst it's the
worst thing that can happen to avoid door to a family so the first that has committed all you get young people from west virginia say my age much more credible people who come from that sort of a narrator who have had instantaneous dialogue and then for a couple of months you let them silver out into say three or four target neighborhoods which are theirs and then you know make friends just how are we going to find him for you they make friends as the first think confidence trust rub shoulders and identity of feeling and then gradually you say to these people well now i see you on the playground here you know on the recreation and argue that would be better perhaps a few other recreational when you think about a mass of people and zombies and well you know that might be a good thing but how do you go about getting a recreational where you have to call up somebody was a bulldozer
that as a bulldozer know so you have to put in their minds making them to do these things themselves rather than being dependent on you is that as the genius from the outside world you'd give them gradually the knowledge to do things for themselves the first boy organize and you organize a committee council and then they discussed the lead never met before they've never met to discuss and they decide what they like to do when you're trying to find a way to do it without them in as just a simple way of explaining it you try and create and then the understanding is they organize and they act together that they can accomplish something as a community and worries they couldn't as an individual and you as the person from the outside are willing to help them not build for the mind you but help them go and your whole object is to get them it is for yourself to leave
as soon as you can the ways to make their community organization responsible tell them how to do things when they tell you what they want to do and then let them accountable themselves were always feeding information feeding information but the thing has to come from within them secondly follow events after a walk they begin to understand that they can get a recreational thing and then they say one a lot so it's o promise made of the statehouse that he would do this for our roads body and on and now it's three four years ago so then they follow that up then they begin to get a sense of what they can do in the meantime charleston the community is get a little scared in oregon organizing organizing pork it was a very nasty thing to do and that sounds that sounds a little dangerous about it as if you're only giving them about a six inch lead over what they had before which was twenty feet below what you and i know so you begin to creep getting them a sense of what they can do now you understand that the second thing is you got to give them job
training you can't just take a boy who doesn't enjoy and asked him to be a mechanic or a plumber he's got to have skills while the first gilded got to have is knowing what it means to report to a job at a thirty if you've been spending eighteen hours a day time means nothing to get to a job at a thirty day after day is a major intellectual come to a why should i have to do is ladies problem is a ten o'clock one like to come in a thirty somebody else might have all well they have cider and their clothes are extraordinary ragged you can go into into area a gas station or be allowed to be a plumber and study under a plumber if you're closer in told toll a total mess they're scared they're scared of anybody from the big city because they receive nothing wrong you said so you want what you do is you first have to weeks of nothing but job orientation you tell about personal appearance what it means to have a job what the obligations what duties it means
and then you into an apprenticeship type situation you go about community and you get a good man who works in a gas station a good man who works in a store and you say would you be willing to take three or four these boys in the hollows some of whom may have do not like the background and given the chairs we've we've told and now howl how they should go ahead and they really want to work with that never done it before when you help them given the chance some do so until then they get that experience and then after a number of more mindful more specific job training then irena feed into the national or the state label labor market and it works i haven't found your work i've seen in new york washington boston new haven in charleston i have seen bodies who had nothing but because of the training of a couple of groups and the independents and
sanders responsibility of song business owners are making and that's very exciting authorities education is thoughtful thinking about that these children they go through a middle class school in lacey telephones in elevators and things up and pressure cookers and diagrams next letter is no telling how to speak english correctly that i know what they are how can they relate to the subject material it's basically middle class approach to educating them and they're not middle class an animal which are talking about they can't be reached were working on children between the ages of sixteen and twenty one you know in their likenesses start starts when they're four and five pre schools we're starting preschool they're doing that me or you know they're doing that in your preschools you take the children before they even go to school and teach them attitudes teach them why education is important and then you go into a subject matter that rent to them
how good textbooks to teach you things about civics and about their english or middle class to talk about the no the executive white collar worker these people will never be white collar workers what they want and always learn from books which talk about climbers mechanics truck drivers railroad people you don't find those in this country so these problems are beginning to create their own material your novels asia for youth program was created own material written its own books for these children and then you have to go at them with other things you've got to give them legal and that is now public housing in new york and one of the most beautiful examples these people get kicked out of islam and they get put on top of the priority list to get into the house which is going to go up a low cost public housing but really close they never get why because there's about six rules some of which are no family which has a child which has had a narcotics experience
can get into a public housing project why don't even tell you how many people how many youth after the ages of twelve thirteen fourteen in new york and had a narcotics experiences of those an intimate context but boo sniffing basics more experiences a run in with the police over narcotics police families are just disqualifying any legal protection than they can afford to doma were together so you bring in community services homemakers helpers new mothers who had six or eight children how can they be expected to go off and eventually the six or chill out when they leave their house they need many other services for when i'm talking on too much of the war on poverty that spans the services to a great extent now to talk about that the important thing is that you've got to remember is that this
doesn't work this approach does work it's proof that i remember a young men in boston by name of parish in boston they have something called a special group if your iq is red to believe they reiterated to be at a mohel you're listening to a special group the other words you very back of the class and you are ignored get nothing and after all these people begin to take on that the you know the image of what they're told ira and they literally get things like eyes are totally buy you look out and it's almost here i've seen these people for classes of young people who had been put in a roller homeless wondering they're put in a row by education by society and then they could actually come to life and be as that role is but dr parish he was special group iq blow it new young negro educator in boston he's now running this program and he's got a phd from boston college not that only dramatic i can point to
so many examples of giving these people a break and having him produce get an education getting the chance to help them find a way and they will produce i myself and in charleston were with us thirty nine it would you ever like you i never this plaza thirty nine iq a total rejection the school system from society but you know he can fix anything with his hands no don't tell me there isn't a place for him the lesson until we start helping find ways a boy named jerry kid i was down in my plate i went down there in june the charleston among that one just coming from the halls the first war in this broader to come in from london and he was so scared he couldn't even good need a shock when you talk with well he's still there and he's a different person and three months he's confident he's doing something
even though i could name you lots of examples well here are remedial schooling program for poorly performing senior students at a high school in st paul reduce that school dropout rate from the highest in the city to the second largest city in five years five thousand dollars invested in training a young men for work will give him a lifetime earnings of a minimum of sixty thousand dollars five thousand to sixty thousand plus you take away a welfare and so they just end of this thing by by by just trying to tell you as strongly as i can that these people wanna wanna where anybody who tells you people prefer welfare to work they'll be right in some individuals but by the bar vast majority it's not
true and don't you believe and how can we help you when i i believe you say everybody says that the marxist say that the wealthy don't care about the poor the rich don't care you get yours you leave the others alone well i don't believe that i believe that we as people in the holes as the people in harlem in the bronx that we have to be shown a way to get out of our cycle of afterwards to help just as they do and it's a scary thing for us have you ever walked in harlem or walked in ohio and west virginia you know it's it's the it's an arms expert on him physically nervous experience but you feel you feel that scare i never with a boy named tex williams who came from one of these hollows he took me through his home at the end of eat only allah you know i've read we got
along very well he said you can't imagine how scared i was that the idea of taking you through i was so scared to have you were walking along with me and tonight i told that you are not as good as i want what he's all about me my best sense of guilt you know all these things that come in awe of insecurity of of the code that was so good in the shoes that were shiny and you're afraid you're on a trip on a rotten the road look silly all these things it takes guts it takes knowledge to help to going to make contact with party it's not easy as it's not easy for them to come to ask is not easy for us to go there but i think we want or charities goodwill projects say you get the hundred these cases on that one of the only things you really know how to do is to end and myself to how do you get involved in poverty in new york city in west virginia charity is the traditional way it's the
bombing of the country well we're designing more we would know what to do its part this is a poverty happily to the peace corps work in the peace corp for couple of years alum pablo casals said something about the peace corps which has to be the motivating factor for you in it and trying to find a way to help would be useful he said the peace corps and i listened to the words approach to poverty the problem of poverty is new and is also very old we haven't sensed come full cycle we've come from the tyranny of the enormous pause and discordant machine back to realization that the beginning and the end of everything is men that is men who was important not to machine that is man who accounts for growth not just dollars or factories and
above all that is men who is the object of war efforts and then you left that and what i told you for what i would stay empathy or toward the terminus or something of that sort that you know full well that if it wasn't for something a bobbin be i knew that you could have been born in west virginia you could have been born and second street in the bronx for what we do i still unearthing the question the problem is and how do you find a malaysian society of people with the time and with money and with leisure how do you get them to help other people when you get letters you tend to turn inwards america because we care more about ourselves rather than less how you get people to look out to help others
well let me ask you some questions have you read the other america for example do you know anything about poverty in this city or anywhere else what facts do you sometimes if you go through a lot of orchestras to watch guns either one time i had a two tickets does that a girl and then she did at the last moment and i called up a friend in the youth employment service nine lunsford and said do you have a you have somebody like physical might enjoy coming with that say this it's an easy thing i can we can say we can get involved for we get emotionally involved over four we get concerns before we get knowledge we get the human contact lenses away try that some time or go or buy two tickets for concerts and then call up a friend or call up an agency is there a bullet or is there a girl who likes music would you like to come along and was a tremendous
experience for me over the same thing with a baseball game what about the scholarships in your child children schools i went to school in europe where they didn't have any negroes are if you if it's the same with you are you pushing what about a poor children are there any in your school are they the right ones can be found would you be willing to teach or home hygiene one day a week where some of the social service agencies in your neighborhood or whether we want it or we would be willing to do it how to teach it tom what about working at a preschool mobilization for you that's outside the board of education will have to be a teacher would you like to help and kindergartens delayed an afternoon or a morning a week what you know about normalization for you about heartier about henry street projects what you know about social
organizations in your own neighborhood and you know and to me some one of the problems in india what has your congressman in washington that about falls apart we are you know is how they vote on the bill and poverty what about your guy in the state legislature to nose named one has he done about problems in your neighborhood supposing your congressman asked you about your opinion on the war on poverty the joyous or intelligently you know what it is what the facts are what about the promise i think in a broader sense the palm of cyber nations you know a lot of economists say that in twenty years that will be any blue collar jobs only managerial jobs maybe all of his job training means nothing does that mean your children for your snow unless there and management that they will be able to get work and for about that what does that mean in relation to poverty are what about your participation in the end this
magnificent the nine ers and social problems as church bells you're here this morning we're hearing about poverty are talking about party what you doing about our time aggressive question it's an honest question what you doing well i mean as i say visitors have you walked under the lunging how i used to drive through it in arlington coming in from the country in your home and fifty eighth street drove through the same thing you walk around and you know anybody there bob same thing everybody has different ways of making it help but first you have to get the contacts you have to get the reason for doing that for the peace corps proved peace corps said there's a job for americans to do with it is not because i have a job to a new
job you have to put them in the situation you put them in the situation and then they will be involved as human beings and they'll carry on service crisis of this so important that he made our final judgment turned not on the number of prayers our church attendance but rather not we are too busy to help him when he comes to us in the garments of the poor i was hungry and you gave me to eat i was thirsty you gave me to drink i was a stranger and you took me in as long as you do it for one of these the least of my brother and you did it for me now just lined up to me already is one of the two or three great moral dilemmas that our country faces civil rights is another question is carrying the
affluent society taylor the marxist say that we can't have you and i know that we don't but we do care how can we show what about seventeen million hungry americans without a chance it's it's a real question of whether in our country we can care tremendously in our hearts but what we do we'll always be the next guy i want to help with all that the next guy do the work for me at some point you have to take the commitment and i think a river the reaction the party will tell us a great deal about our nation will give us a chance to re evaluate to look at are the things that really count christian ethics our own standards on ethics what we chose what we teach our children how much we care about education what is this the real federal state relationship because these are
federal programs what about political corruption the war on poverty has done and cover a fantastic amount a political corruption about doing that because it's always the eighteen who are taking revenge one has no idea where this will stop this one party in a sober recharging of national boundaries the peace corps volunteers who've come back from overseas are fantastic a lot of you know one of them over fifty percent and go on and graduate education and they carried their impatient they've seen things they didn't know and they've been struck while they've seen about men some pretty deep wage and they're not doing things it could be the greatest effect of the war on poverty will be exactly that's it will not help the poor as much as it will help us to have a chance to do things about it will re we re waiting on consciousness give us a ride i said that
when a man died and he was evaluating and he asked this of him in order that he respected he said has he participated in the passions of our times and i think we can fairly say that party that seventeen million of disadvantaged americans is a legitimate passion of our time and the question is how will we participate in it it's b so that's it the transportation problems and norms
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Speaking of Ideas
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Political Issues in Christian Perspective - No. 1, Poverty: The Challenge Before Us - John D. Rockefeller, IV
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WRVR (Radio station: New York, N.Y.)
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The Riverside Church (New York, New York)
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A lecture on the Christian perspective of political issues.
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Religion
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Economic assistance, Domestic
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Producing Organization: WRVR (Radio station: New York, N.Y.)
Speaker: Rockefeller, John D., IV (John Davison), 1937-
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The Riverside Church
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Chicago: “Speaking of Ideas; Political Issues in Christian Perspective - No. 1, Poverty: The Challenge Before Us - John D. Rockefeller, IV ,” The Riverside Church , American Archive of Public Broadcasting (GBH and the Library of Congress), Boston, MA and Washington, DC, accessed September 8, 2024, http://americanarchive.org/catalog/cpb-aacip-528-028pc2v72m.
MLA: “Speaking of Ideas; Political Issues in Christian Perspective - No. 1, Poverty: The Challenge Before Us - John D. Rockefeller, IV .” The Riverside Church , American Archive of Public Broadcasting (GBH and the Library of Congress), Boston, MA and Washington, DC. Web. September 8, 2024. <http://americanarchive.org/catalog/cpb-aacip-528-028pc2v72m>.
APA: Speaking of Ideas; Political Issues in Christian Perspective - No. 1, Poverty: The Challenge Before Us - John D. Rockefeller, IV . Boston, MA: The Riverside Church , American Archive of Public Broadcasting (GBH and the Library of Congress), Boston, MA and Washington, DC. Retrieved from http://americanarchive.org/catalog/cpb-aacip-528-028pc2v72m