Chicago Matters; Ghetto Life 101

this is the ghetto life series i'm ray suarez you're about to hear two radio documentaries by a pair of extraordinary young man lee allen jones and lloyd newman first ghetto life one a while in march nineteen ninety three jones and newman or thirteen years old at the time were hired as public radio reporters they were given tape machines and microphones and asked to spend a week recording themselves their families and their neighborhood lloyd lives in the ida b wells public housing development on the south side of chicago lee allen lives just a block away this is their program what it's like for two boys growing up very fast and very rough part of their city they call this documentary get a life one a one good morning noon open as close to leaving out to know that the us

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it's about family no millionaires and not obese this is our story the piece thank you forty years later this is fresh air that is the line sandy yes

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it's difficult because of the publicity that surrounds the area and you don't believe that we believe you're smart or sometimes there's no need now it's more of the school day will nearly all the hand that's alan siegel one of us so i tell her that their professional basketball players day of the highly of a town that voice developed and ship canal unites communities they to stand now in to the twentieth floor b l l a dollar to say antonio spurs into yemen it will sell ashley merryman you played by signing you want to replay contests where summit wears jeans life or your

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it to october nineteen ninety four or five year old eric morris is dropped from the fourteenth floor window of a high rise in the ida b wells development eric was killed by two other boys who at the time were themselves only ten and eleven years old it's just a bare patch of ground at the foot of a drab brick high rise of the place where eric morse died became an epicenter a spot from which shockwaves of all kinds our revulsion sadness recrimination and more violent rippled through a community a city and the country in february of nineteen ninety five lee allen and lloyd took up a tape recorders and microphones once again and spent a year exploring the death of eric morse and the effect it had on people of all ages in their community they call this program remorse the fourteen stories of eric morris nearly

nine eleven legacy it has been one of the nba to do that even though we're at a guano michael ratner or through other neighbor who i live in the mansion now i know it was a way to get iraqi thursday october thirty nineteen ninety four garrett morris five years old and just out of the fourteen story window by two lovers went looking for they would just hit in eleven years old and had been my big yards

from my house you would be losing something it was tragedy and south side housing project can say more than he was pour hot york light lot of traffic there were five year old erik you say it was horrifying as this cycle of kids killing kids seems to be escalating out you've seen at all what the jewels in crimea are in chicago now comes this too noisy the famine a very painful long and they were like on even a branding get into that we think about those two kids ten eleven years old chicago the true that five year old boy at a one a five year old kid who knew right from wrong lost his life because he was the oakland the whole country would shout out and lethal gear the cameras and importing them and we were housed be a native plant and that it was going into the love that spend that he's one of

his neighborhood is nothing new and they want to surprise and alas alas of people living here as part of a day they let me know it will but this time we decided to close like to talk to people of all the neighbors and the values of their more senate to little boys think you'd lawyer lee allen imaginable <unk> libyan sudan made of aaron morris we call our documentary reports and again on tape a year ago and the scientists are right to talk with this line within the chairman of chicago housing authority in matters at the middle of the crime took place and now today at the site where it was a young man of to one fourteen story window channel a bit and forty stories way young person in the community a made in the debate you know you have one advantage going in looks like a notebook

case troy cemetery if you live in the community and you were young person what would you be i thought of living here my thought would be it would be hell am i thought would be because i am a dream a bad dream all the town about green grass and be dreaming about planned know basketball in every dream about go on camping up but i certainly would be dreaming about stay here where you got a little a look over your shoulder every waking moment when the local station very very brief outline is one of four high rise buildings and it will one of our ideas completely boarded up with a mostly vacant the buildings are tall gray brick and they're a little like crazy down the wall at least allow gave you steal it and now walking in and finally do it and start

courting out of concrete everywhere has a lot of the feed and it's mail here they're in the elevator the elevator is always fun to have the experience when for the elevators so we have plenty of time to tell a story of eric morris eric was that they were two young people who didn't have anything else to do the fathers were overpopulated mob everyone and they would know the story adds depth of all fortieth to victims and whatever your brother derek and to lefever will come on gunny a thousand of them on her own suddenly they're just you can do with them they're taller of the boys and they decide to seek revenge one october to imagine it for johnny entire also edited by the outside this building and afterward they want to see their club which is actually they can count on the fourteenth floor forceful is

that a week on the key when they pull out the void cocaine in his department would unify john and tyrone grad erika him out of a wendell berry grabbed his brothers on imported back in the giant tyrone to every twist second window and held him out there to grab every game this time what the boys did their team had to let go and bob year old eric morrison they'll fourteen story derek run out of the apartment down fourteen flights of stairs and an attempt to save his brother sid very organized it tremendously well what is not a pin out you right off the way a party at a liquor store and he totally destroyed and the other part of you is if you look at the young people who are on the street who basically have nowhere to go there they have to now and three hours from now they'll be

there and that's the difference between a healthy community people in healthy communities have things to do positive things to do people in public housing have nothing to do the elevator mechanic fifty feet won't be one thing you like satan chair line of the cea chair of our living and a whole lot of employees through him they'll look at the rats it weren't doing that may not just mice rats in my apartment right there are simply mad they're now watching webster's word of war notably no respect another and as his television a howdy we're living in well if you like lanny fell head around here the nation now wondering how or you really you

know you don't live more as he did you know it's more when do you know of a good candidate am i only knew mean you know anything if you know you've been chairman of all of the world like making hash it out and now they're back to revere is growing it outlines their cars to talk to begin why the deal with one of each of the dominicans were the brightest us is npr yeah like a

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at a live virus became active duty is more thoughtful old renaud really funny get interviews on the seven finalists not the middle come with graffiti debbie allen dulles international you name it a little to try maybe allow with overthrowing with national public radio nowhere to have to quote values were very sad though you're telling you stand like that out of oil and harmonies with a long winded you know eric morath yet you know typically get and cromwell a who really the mark laughter what have the key to a date with a very very very very careful when they go out to matt i hear this deal with hbo

don't hang me laughs where you want a world that crap when you land and that the new nie say it sure you hold that we're here would you want a young boy organs like you know mainly in their provision in the primate issuing subpoenas known to highlight the issue is three days old and tammy tammy it comes out to talk to a wet winter were doing to each other but she has a theory about would have to have more she thinks the giant air or probably tried to spirit bao hold him out of the window and dropped him ix into a teenager today you can't tear may be a bit bigger turnout and when

to raise quote a rueful until an unusually cool to me the sand issues close to john mccain your more involved an ethnic slur javelin he and his fellow stand invisibility we are at higher than around a neighborhood of the two ways of the eighties danny was supposed to be the really bad i mean he had been put on probation just a month before the incident on gun possession charge seniors aisle but to me this is sheila given john mccain and sam amick and i just my day to day job to me you want to go to me given a rather i used and

out went well we were talking and looks a witty fee at that they care hang on now see no buyout their sentence and the good thing for posting a widening be offered their faith you look up which would at the verb shot down his gray eyes it's typical of what got the whole banking inquiry report now and stay strong and a little likely to do and then that right initially along the tv men how they get like that an amnio the aha done out that now from turin the main rally today show this week two sides of a story at the

juvenile courts building downtown chicago alone today we're here with kate hanlon the prosecutor for the eric morris case it on tape and in their well thank you are you won't find me like as you do you remember what went through your mind when you first heard that is the first thing i thought about was i've been in juvenile court rooms two years they've seen some pretty horrible things arm and the first thing i could think about was that this is probably one of the most horrible things that i've seen in two years it was awesome believable and i mean i always think that i've seen the worst thing that could happen to people and you can't discount that and then there's and there's as priests do you think this could have been a mistake know one accident from ford no i don't think so i'm actually i'm sure that it couldn't be any accident because of the way that it happened do you feel that the settler brady alive a violent cause i live in their community is it even worse there were saying we're sure every year do you think

that violence and bray about complete children they certainly think that their backgrounds there are different than a lot of other kids i mean anybody who committed this crime family has gone through something in their lives but then again i look at other kids here say for example you grew up in that community well look we're doing it it's a far cry from committing a first degree murder so i'm you know i think that it's a part of it i think the pizza that definitely that needs to be addressed and needs to be addressed one before it because by the time they come to me and i have to prosecute him the deed already done in on them or has already been committed and i think that it has to start one before it gets to me i think obesity prosecutor of op ed morris case thank you and we have it when i was going to do now what good to talk to people on the other

side of the case though over the juvenile public defenders are met with the four tonys representing john in that scene you're defending an atta picked up the keys who committed this crime or full of bald bias in the neighborhood these people that we represent are exposed to violence they're exposed to shooting stacy shute is icy stabbings they see everything is a tiny dave forsberg there's a history of violence is just so incredible they see people being shot one or two or three years old now they've had relatives who have been shot or killed or or or whatever it's just yes this book does that affect these children and that is that what's going on and i think that's a big part of what the family is there something i think many of the life here that you know the yankees no view put them i stayed at a young age with the mighty the vietnam veterans they would have a listen and then what you're saying is very apropos to what's going on we talk about vietnam and there's this

whole history of traumatic stress it's a tiny because i know what we know we get up to sixteen years eight months six foot one hundred ninety pounds carries a guy and was incarcerated his mother hadn't seen him and i promptly given by the civil war when for a little boys over there never a chance to be in the house now being a mediocrity as you can see everyone i am not ready to relegate these people to the scrap heap of humanity i just get it i'll fight until they either are you

in the nineteen nineties the media working on a story posted this deal must about it like under fire oh man you know they had never thought that they must give those limited think that things and a garden nature of life and that you know evil last night an extremely up there a year old bosom up the one mathematical computer man right we want to find out more about evolved in the mine would recognize the name lupe who are they how do they end up the situation one question we were looking for some answers we are a lot of people that they might have turned out to be the

tv show idea sean smith became a short piece on trump before the incident rests failing school at sunset is going to notify the no one not the parents not the school not the court no one seemed to a priest out of a little bit el paso try again until about a friend of his and johnny internal certain doubt unity among foreign given a thorough what in a photo of what do you know about the air in your story that you can kill people the one in the world and the president will work for the local school council and the two young men that they didn't want to do a salerno the old son says that of the two boys a lot of them are he was closer to

john mccain he'll the really well when we did the interview subject real name so we have to beat them out i can remember when you have to start with characters who were willing to back a rock ok senator do you want to his friend and he kept one different qualities of his expense worth a teacher saw them you know with these kids or like that that have five six years old they know when to begin a trial had to be in his household that no one like to talk to he would flare up in very sensitive emily kirkland i've in a minute but i could totally calm down and he would talk to me you know and it just they were actually that was the one to spend some time with you know and so when it happened it made me feel that that i feel like i just that would tie with the fall we had tried to get a dual try to get some help for you know an unfortunate we weren't able to get it for prime time marian

days later play video games and lawyers house was somewhat life on the neighborhood an elite brauer we told antonio inkling about documentary antonio told us he was quote carrot right before you get murder only it had been achieved when subsided like it's about a canoe and a ring of the castle of the south were the attackers not here and that we will we need to do a lot of that sale almost every key ally you seen someone get shot a lot of times so and then found with tom bowman lived double last night was gay if we talk about it it all came out again about art and was then with the month they announced they got that they work out more from miami the life they remained at politico and you know if the bill so huge when i believe it what happened yet about the year and as clint you can hear more

do you have a camera you see that land in the uae and i know you have a bank and then work and kind of when all the media legal matter the playful and then just by justin pitre jack we have to not to have been while also looking at it worried that like in the barrel in the war

there were not made into a weight that i mean you know no choice so that don't know you step aside a little boy walks are usually were in a toning what your relationship with him like how to make you feel that you couldn't you know what i want from a thing that you miss about a cone hat hey what'd you do all you are hurting you could be crying you cried out there that when they get out i guess i want to ask how do you you know a dead baby and ask you to read the un about the view of what

you do what you have to do how they look you can win a fifth bite you get what kurt is it to be up very much antonio's one the day the japanese culture is short doris payne and elegant was a lot of them when john witmer that they write about that in and that they get you know while i don't want to have them down fast windy but jumping ballots will radiate very long live antonia turner that he knows who redefines what else would involve indicates avoid a casanova the younger brother tyrone the levee you involved in the debt that it was insane quest to look because he can't feel it goes and we worked in a tony award for us to another plotted it

wales on several of little brothers just know applying important obviously because nan casanova smaller ways it has patches of falls off trying to give himself a haircut north or whether the no i mean i am castillo was because of you one and johnny the genial tone energetic and jeff who have a cat five downstairs and dad and stand up on the one to see you in the end johnny just pushed him out of the window eric vale is share with local radio show is

double again their family vehicle be like to run no one that i met julian the neighbors who can walk thank you mark casanova brother tried to get aired just you know what man i know i should and one week later it with twenty of nineteen ninety five at the youth correctional center in galesburg illinois and italy all a drive from jakarta leaving college at the father casanova a little boy we just met and tyrone you know involved in a murder unicef at a census will aggravate of that we interviewed him in a prison for the coming

days is short muscular entire state of emergency the sun every father says were largely cover all via thom with the next best they will you know you know that someone's ceiling premonition yeah right yeah so it's got the role was and how do you feel betrayed after made the girls

fall in salary if we can't get arrested tyrone hood ok to stand trial there was time again like tyrone them all so the fellow now buying like crazy into a petty crimes and this crime times do can believe committee the purpose of the same boy you know behind well joe sheehan and when it didn't really does he's always at the flames is it man

man from what which are the fun of validating your boy involved in the crime johnny we heard that that family or that about it will drive that incident and could tie city's department we didn't know where to find it is on top of a day in a public on the west side of chicago when you walk in the building saw an old friend hang out at the security day the way it is at yale killer was off razor run a new way to play baseball again and i'm a little boy you to bring with him to the gangs john you at the park

so you know how do you question it mm mm and josh lewin about about the giant know what they need to know about you get wi fi fi dipping reserves the safety is about an event your healing your life johnny's sister coronation of a soft tyranny on us to

let them into law i always do when i signed just one of some of the faces of all what i didn't expect this i can leave it knew this little boy committed them or just the size corey lights kimball no different than any other kid in the neighborhood just exposed to too much to you know an explosion that close to nine our final interview after when it landed where we waited a must speed to toni morrison eric's mother and derek and it's probably only arab league at their apple and we met them in their ties off we talk about all the requests from across the country is the only interview tony was running to anyone in the media well out as bobby it's been specifically for we want to live from about eric and tony and daily today we're here with tony maws errol morris and the mother bear more of foam yellow pine arizona a

thank you from our new way to do the thing you have a cow whatley of mine is nearly empty because you know this just doesn't leave in bailout deal is the joke of the year they were getting their love they look human being how i think about things about him every day fell in calgary matter where and when the risky legal online i think about it how do you feel any animosity to a parent of young man for allowing them to do that to play by the fifth hour before allowing them at like they have to follow any by the light there were can you believe the particular image it futility immediately

very beautiful gray now with a big chicago boys shirt and her shy smile and twinkly eyes i can imagine you know an invalid forties dawn to try to get evidently a bigger annual award that if they were given a low you do turning color are waving about it in the field believe the vatican the aisle you know another theme of mortality they get life changed their view about fighting man probably never be like i can tell cramer yeah that's right and maybe that's now made out on our money that's now called him and he would find him or in the area recover a long and talk about a

red line being with incendiary going to be very low i haven't always been people along the way giant towel convicted of martin of them in january that even gets to the nation ever since to prison before this election since illinois for chile and entertain or throwing catherine at the depth of it was the law was a really key is it just seemed to be sent to the state juvenile penitentiary widow promised a lot of aid to the twenty one and i'll come back one of the two were doing this was all recall

it's exciting in the journal of a little bit more love and dies you know it would come down more like us we would've turned out more like our interviews and you can give answers but we do know this no one should be surprised that this happened and there was no that this will happen again and that victims and assailants who keep getting younger and younger because ron here children are growing up with absolutely nothing nothing we do nothing a whole void and nothing new there's only so much at stake and i can make two less incentive that the eric morris all i can do was still hold that silence you know this one five your chow by bp would listen a little more closely to the right of love with i understand a little more about the reality we face every day there's plenty of remarkable run on friday to consider what we try not to think about too much will make you crazy we just keep looking for one of our businesses best we can

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