States of Mind; Mill City

There was one city which was viewed as the preeminent center of modernism, and there was one artist. [beep] [TV long static and beep] That's like the moment the guy comes up on the wreck and they- then about an

hour later, the state police shows up and says what happened? He says, well, they had a wreck over here and there's four environmentalist in that car. He says, well where they at? He said, I buried him. He said, why'd you bury them? He said, Well they were dead. He said, You sure? He says, Well two of them said they weren't. But you know how the environmentalists lie. That's kind of the jokes that are going around now. ["Family Tree" by Michael Murphey plays] ["Family Tree" playing] ["Family Tree" playing] Moved over here Mill City from Willamina. Things got kind of slow over there, wasn't much going on, so we moved over here looking for a job. Many times did I wish I had done something else.

But and over the years, I have did other jobs. But I seem to always come back to trucking. I kind of like- I like driving just about anything, you know, early I guess if I had my- my dream or whatever, I'd probably be a race car driver. [laugh] I like race cars. [Chainsaw whirs & tree falls] With all the environmental movement against us and

the different spotted owl and different birds and trees and stuff they're trying to protect, we don't know how long we're gonna have our jobs. I'm sure they're going to be quite a few of us to lose our job, but we don't know who they'll be. I know it gets kind of depressing at times, worrying, you know, when you have to, you know, be scared for your job. I'm not worried so much about myself, as I am for my kids and my grandkids. You know, what are they gonna do? [Woman speaking] You're gonna catch all of them on fire, you're gonna burn your hand. [Man speaking] I can't have birthday cake any more, too many candles it flames out, burns the roof. [Woman speaking] One more, and you got it. There you go. Make a wish for me. You ready? Let me sing- Yes. OK. Ready. Let's go. Happy birthday to you, Happy Birthday to you. Happy birthday, dear Brent, Happy birthday to you.

Little Brent's ready. Little Brent wants a piece. Yeah. Give him a piece of cake, small piece. Are you ready for some birthday cake? [people moving] There it is. Chow. It's not hot honey, you can eat it. Don't say hot, he'll think it's hot. It's not hot, see. There's a small one there. I was 15. Actually, I was 12, him and some guys come to the house and I remember him and my sister didn't like him. Then when I was 16, my mom was working at the hospital, in the kitchen. And John worked there on the supply. And he was talking that he needed a date for the Christmas party and he was separated from his wife then.

They were going through a divorce. So my mom said, I have a 16-year-old daughter, but you'll have to ask her yourself. And he did, he come over And he told me later his first thoughts when I answered the door. There was this skinny girl with long straggly blonde hair, he thought, Oh, no, what did I get myself into? And then when he picked me up for the date, we did go out on the date to the dinner. Then he kind of dumped me. He really did. I chased him and he- he eventually, I guess, decided that he wasn't going to get rid of me. So he married me. It'll be 22 years, November 23rd. I'm gonna pay my bills, cash my check. If I don't pay my bills, Charlie don't talk to me, isn't that right?

We've never, we've never been where we didn't talk. We've never been where we haven't talked. We got that much. Thank you Johnny. Is that all I get? That's it. I got the big [unintelligible] Two weeks. I made 25 bucks after I paid my bill. You'll find out they overpaid you. And a nickel. You'll find out they overpaid you. Yeah. Just started working. I wasn't working but two, three days a week. And we were struggling and everything. And I came in and asked Charlie if I could charge some groceries cuz I found out that he has accounts like that. And he said, how much you need? And I said, oh, probably about 20 dollars worth. So he says, well here, just do this. He just reached in his pocket and handed me a 20 dollar bill, and says pay me back when you get the chance. And I thought that was pretty neat. He didn't know who I was or nothing, you know? And that was, that was kind of great. But that's what small towns are, man. Small town I was raised in had a little grocery store like this and everybody went in every two weeks and paid their bills.

You just went in every night or whenever you needed groceries and charged it. It was called Macardi and Martin Grocery store, it's not there anymore. Had an earthquake in '80 and about 90 percent of my home town fell down. [chain saw] [trees falling] They just started out with her.

This is just it, we have a kind of a mixed variety. We have groceries. We have casual clothes. We have work clothes. And we have canned goods, groceries, meats, produce, frozen food. This is our office, such as it is. That's my secretary up there. That's who I am. [laughter] She's been my secretary for a long time. When I came home from the war, she was at the gangplank waiting for me to come home. So we've been working it out together ever since. Levi's, this is what we call blue jeans. Hickory shirts. This is what the men- Incidentally, we don't grow these here. They come from the south. We use lots of them. In here we call this our boot room.

This is kind of the high rent district when you're [unintelligible] We have boots. This boot here is a [sound of movement] Believe it or not, this is $175 worth of work shoes. [sound of chainsaw] [Sound of chainsaw] It cost almost $300 for a man to buy a proper winterwear, just to get ready, hardhat, wool socks, underwear, blue jeans, shirts, and everything that it takes, and when we can equip a logger from the skin out. But the thing is, it's expensive. Though, whenever I sell that, that's a big part of my my day, too.

So I really, and if you take away my logger, you're taking away my sales. [vehicle noises] [background music] [background music] Say here, now, this is downtown. This is the plaza. Isn't very big, it's an awful small little town. [background music continues] But this is what the timber communities are, they're just small towns and families living and working together. I remember that guy there, says Filbert the Nut, most of the truck drivers use use handles. When I lived over here, they used to call me the town drunk. Of course I don't drink, so I don't know how I got stuck with that handle, but I did. Over where I work now, they call me Scrap Iron. Hear ye, hear ye, chicken dinner, chili, on [unintelligible] block. Come and get it! How about a bowl of chili? [Laughter]

Maybe that's why I'm a cop and you're not. OK. [Laughter] It's exciting though. [Laughter] And the winner is... [Grunt] Yes. Didn't you eat before you got here? [Laughter] No, I haven't eaten since 5:30 this morning. [Inaudible] [Laughter] All right. Are you guys ready? The winner is number seven. Number seven. Who's number seven? That can't be possible... Kiwanis club. [Applause] Oh, come on. Alright, Right. And not only that, ya gotta get the [inaudible]. Oh man. [?inaudible?] [laughter]

This used to be a pretty busy place. Ten, fifteen years ago, it was just trainloads and lumber and plywood out of here. The railroad track goes on down to the Willamina Lumber and Hampton [unintelligible] down at the other end of town. And then it used to go on out all the way to Grand Ronde. With all the mills closing, people are moving off to the other towns and stuff. I didn't come from a wealthy family, and I know very well what happens to a family because it happened to mine when I was in the fifth grade. My dad was 40 years old. He didn't have a high school education. He had five kids and a mortgage, though, and he lost his job. And I remember the day very well when my mom was crying and I asked her, the first time in my life I seen my mom cry and she, I said, what's wrong, Mommy? And she said, the bank's going to take our house away. And I know very well the feelings and what goes on in those families.

And I will stand with the workers and their families. I never I never want that to happen to you or your family. And the way we do that is we settle this issue with the timber supply and we go out there, we get the door manufacturing, manufacturing jobs. Doors and windows and cabinets. Truss joist beams, good paying jobs, not hamburger flipping job, but good jobs. Timber related jobs into these communities. And I'm going to be standing here with you, timber workers and all Oregonians if I'm elected to the Congress. Thank you very much. [Applause] A lot of people still don't realize the impact of what's going to happen until they lose their job. The other day, one of our drivers, he says the difference between depression and recession is, recession is when your neighbor loses his job. Depression's when you lose yours.

I do all of this and then Charlie checks me, just to make sure I haven't taken any of his money, or that I put it in the wrong place, which I do lots of times. And then it goes to an accountant who is a friend of ours that we've had for 40 years. But he lives at the coast. So twice a year we get to go the coast to the accountant's office to make sure everything's ready for the government. You know, when we do the government taxes. And this is an old, old fashioned McCaskey, I told you about this, didn't I? And this has our charge account customers. Well, this is kind of messy. Well, this is our charge account customers and everybody that charges here, they pay either every two weeks or once a month, or whenever we can catch 'em. You know, it depends on what they're doing. And so this is where we live and eat out

of, is this thing here. So it works pretty well. [cash register] Bye Bye. Well, when the people they have financial problems, you know what I mean is that they're not working. Well they come to the store. And they say, Charlie, will you help me? Most of the time I do. If there's a way I can I do. And there's a lot of people, Then they don't always have to have my help, but there's times that they do. When they're raising young families and whatnot. Or if a man needs a new pair of boots before his payday. Well, he come in and gets his boots, and then he comes in and pays for it. But, like I say, it's a good place to live. And it's a if you're a good guy, everybody knows it and if you're a bum, everybody knows it. [unintelligible] Nine zero eight. Break. Code 4. [Radio Static] [Background conversation on radio] They're trying to catch a there's a lady out there in a Acura going down I-5 at 70,

passing real close and they think she, they said they think she's possibly a 31. I think that's a drunk driver. A 31. Clear on an 89. Pontiac. Two door. Current to the last of Scott. Then on Friday and Saturday nights there's always a family disturbance. Or a few weeks ago there was two or three people called in the Salem police and said there was a man dragging a woman down the street by her hair, by the hair of her head. You know, I expect that back in the caveman days but not now. I don't know what he was doing, but I guess the cops finally caught him or whatever. [background conversation on radio]. And then this seems like there's always, you know, every so often there's always a hostage situation or something, and in Salem or Woodburn or Portland or somewhere. [background conversation on radio] That's what makes it look so nice living out here, is you hear all this, and it's always going on someplace else. You know, you don't hear of it here in town very much. [background conversation on radio] [truck noise, hydraulics] [unintelligible]

[unintelligible] that are hauling it out - you see the big ?elk? down there? There's a ?elk? down there somewhere. I didn't see one coming in. We've got our slot picked already, Lucky and I. His boys all go. So we're going to leave out Friday sometime. I gotta to go pick the camper up. Not gonna drink any beer, are you? No, naw that's one thing I don't do when I go hunting, I don't drink. Some some guys do. That's fine, you know, but I don't drink any way, you know. I drink beer and I get sick, so I stay away from all that stuff. [diesel engine] [crunching] [horn] [unintelligible]

[Background conversation on radio] [Unintelligible] All right. What do you put on that one? [crunching, chewing] [unintelligible] [background conversation on radio] [unintelligible] Think it was on a Thursday and I went down for my dentist appointment and got out of my dentist appointment didn't have no tickets.

So I went down to the bank and got me twenty dollars at the end of the old card thing there and went back up and bought me five dollars quick pick. And the next Saturday I was out golfing Black Butte and we was all b-s-ing about how it'd be nice to win the lottery and buy us a condo or something on the fairways and stuff. And that night when I got home, I seen the numbers flash across the board or across the screen and went in the bedroom, got my ticket and came outside and went down there to the first number and started crossing that - goddamn, it sure looks like, you know, all my numbers. So I called my mom. She always writes down the numbers and she told me the numbers. And sure enough, I had all six of them. It was beginning in the end. [Laughter] [Unintelligible] You still bum cigarettes and Copenhagen. Yep. They told me not to change. So [laughter] I decided to stay the same. [Laughter] How much did you win?

It was $1,666,680. On the first year we went back to Florida and went to Disney World, and EPCOT Center, and then went on a cruise out in the Bahamas, and messed out in the Bahamas for four or five days and played the casinos and stuff like that. Just generally had fun. First vacation in 20 years. It's the feeling of being unsecure, you know, not knowing whether you're gonna have your job, how long you're gonna have it and or how much, even if you got your job, how much you gonna get to work and make a living. It'd be nice. I like to, you know, people, always want to win the lottery, and win millions of dollars. I'd like to just win, like something like maybe $50,000. I could pay my house off, all my cars. You know, I wouldn't owe nobody nothing, and have probably, I don't know, $25,000 left over. And still keep my job

because I don't think I'd ever want to just completely quit and just start going around. I think I'd get nervous. I can't can't imagine having to try to spend millions of dollars. Cause we've never really had anything. You know, my family wasn't very rich and Robin's family wasn't. All of them have been just common people that work for a living. You know. [video game noises] All I need is $10,000 just to get me out of the hole that we're in. No, well, not even that. Five thousand would just bring me up to date, current on everything. And if I get to start over. When we first moved into the house I had very little to work with and I did very well. Then John started making a little bit more money and we spent to that.

Now we're, he's back to be making less. And it's just, the bills are there for the more. Do you worry about the future? No. I worry about my children's futures, not mine. Because I'm sure I know my oldest would take care of me. So I don't have to worry about mine. It's just that, if they don't have a future, then I'm not going to have a future. [indeterminate noises] Alex bumping her head [unintelligible] Here, hold on one second. [Hammering] [unintelligible] [hammering]

I've been in Mill City for 20 years. Guess I'm third generation Oregonian, fourth generation from the timber industry. And I was involved in the timber industry for about 12 years. And now I have a flying service, and a computer business that were timber dependent, which almost are bankrupt right now because the timber industry won't use me. I've been going broke being a conservationist but it's something that needed to be done. Yeah, because if we put some two by six right up there just cross brace like you have there, that'll sturdy it up. And you can take this out. Okay The tail will fit in underneath there. You're backin' in, aren't ya?

Yeah. I became a pariah in my own community. People wouldn't talk to me. I went to watch my boys play football and I'd have a whole bench to myself. Nobody was - everybody's afraid to even stand next to me or sit next to me. My friends were afraid to come over because they thought that associating with me would taint them. And so if they did come over, they'd hide their car in my hangar. They'd call me up on the phone, but they were afraid. They'd come up and they stand to you next to you in the grocery store and tell you they really believe what you were saying was correct or true and that they admire your courage for doing it. The same time, they were never, they would, they couldn't do it themselves. They couldn't stand up and do it themselves. They're afraid for their jobs. They're afraid for how the community would look at them. And then it got worse than that, being socially ostracized.

I mean, it's not, it's not fun. That wasn't fun for me or my family. But then it got to the point where there were death threats, there was threats against me. There's threats against my family. Someone ran my son off the road, with a logging truck a couple times. They held my daughter down in school and tied yellow ribbons around her, which are the symbol of the timber industry. [Construction noise] It was mainly hearsay. I didn't didn't know the person or his wife.

But I talked to some of the loggers that knew the guy. They weren't out in the woods. They were up by the [unintelligible] and stuff. And I guess this tree fell over, and hit an old snag and the snag just blew apart. Well, when it did, a big chunk of the log came over and hit him, you know and killed him instantly, from what I heard. And then, these environmental people had the nerve to send letters to his wife, saying that if he hadn't have been out there, you know, raping the forest and cutting the trees down and absolutely ruining everything, that he wouldn't have got killed. And it was just a job. He was out there making a job for his family. It was something he liked to do and it was a way of making a living. And I thought, well, you know, that's to me, that's terrorism. You know? [traffic noise] You're talking about the corporations. Do they have our interests in mind? Is that what you're asking me? Yeah. It seems like they have the most power. They do the most damage. And I don't think they have the communities and I don't

think they're thinking about communities at all. I don't think they give a shit about the communities. Okay, let's say that that's true. [inaudible] [traffic noise] [Inaudible] Do you work? What do you do for a living? I cook in a tofu factory. But, did the majority of you guys work? Put in a lot of taxpayer money? I put taxpayer money in. So do I. [traffic noise] I'm a tax paying citizen. It's my tax dollars. [Inaudible] It's part of the way America works. There's five percent left. There's five percent of this forest left. [Inaudible] is greed. What about the stuff that's already set aside? They're not cutting down all that. What stuff that's already set aside? That's so small. I mean 95 percent [inaudible]. This is life and death. It's not a It's not a garden for you to come in for people. I don't care whether there - I don't care who - to harvest flowers from Money is part of America. And it's none of our business. We can do fine. We just better take care of our water. We better take care of our air.

You better make sure you don't poison all our fruit. You know, we'd better not get in a war. But, for God's sakes, as far as the earth is concerned, let's preserve the last bit of the ancient stuff that's so rare that we've taken advantage of so much. Well, I try to keep my sense of humor through the death threats, and so on my answering machine. I had a message for a while that said, "Hi, this is George. Please leave your name and number. But if this is a death threat, I want you to relax, take a deep breath. [bird noise] Think about what you're going to say. Probably nervous unless you've done this before, and then leave your death threat. And don't forget to leave your name, your telephone number, and your address. I will get back to you." Course none of them ever did that, but I still got the death threats. Wouldn't be surprised at all if you did. [Laughter] There's three links on here. That's the emblem of our order. That's friendship, love

and truth, which is what our order's based on, is we're supposed to always exhibit friendship, love, and truth. [Laughter] [crowd noise] [Inaudible] Chris said that next year, next month, or next meeting, we're going to have a Halloween party, didn't you, Chris? But you forgot. Everybody come in costume. Costume? [Inaudible] I think I'm going to come as Lady Godiva. [Laughter] [Inaudible] I work for that Schwab [inaudible] organization that makes this light fence. And so, my territory goes to Niagara, clear down beyond Fishermen's Bend park. And I report all deer kill on Highway 22 in that section. Well, this year I had an elk killed. [Inaudible] My word. A nice, big yearling elk bull. Right down in front of my place.

What did it hit? Or what hit it? I think a truck. Okey dokey, well, I let Terry go by Okey dokey, well, I let Terry go by and he was right by the two so we got another - keep on coming there's right here. I'm at the two. Okay. Come on around. [Radio voice] 'Kay. I know you guys are hurrying so you can go down and have some lunch. I know and I've got to go back to work. Won't get to eat for three or four more hours. [Laughter on radio] [inaudible]. [Voice on radio] Get up there to the top it's a [inaudible] job. I'll throw down some french fries for you. Okay. Well, I'm hopin' that big elk can still be up there. I'm going to get out there with my knife and just cut me a slab off of it and cook it. [Voice on radio] That'd work real good. If you see an elk tomorrow runnin' around with a limp, you'll know I got him. [Voice on radio] Hahaha, okay. People who prided themselves on being so self-reliant are no longer

self-reliant. In fact, because times are changing around them, they're whining and whimpering and crying and acting like a bunch of damn babies. As far as I'm concerned, and I've told them that it's about time you people pick yourself up by your own bootstraps and see and prove who you really are, and recognize that the world's changed around you and you've kept yourself out of a job and now we have to adapt and do something else. I don't want to see all the trees cut down. You'll never see them all cut down. But, some of the stuff we're replanting now, if they would just allow us to go in and take out some of the old stuff and then let some of the stuff we replanting grow in 200 years. Now, it's going to be old growth and it's gonna be a lot better than what the old growth standing now. Nothing ever lives forever, you know, everything changes. The people to blame for it, the people that are responsible for this,

are not the people in Mill City. It's not even the mill owners or the logging company owners. They push the politicians to cut the forest as fast as possible. But the politicians were - and we're talking about the Oregon delegation, our congressmen - they are the stewards, or the trustees of the trust, federal trust. And they ripped it off. They ripped it off. And they sold it cheap in order to further their own political careers. And to me, it's criminal. [whirring] This is what you call a gob and dob method. See a hole, you drill like this.

[laughs] Get a gob of paint on it, and then you just kind of dob it in the hole. [Laughter] Go to Stuart's Charge it into the Wilsons. They'll know. If you go in with a paintbrush, they'll know what you're there for. John and I used to never get help from any of the people we knew. I can't say they were friends because they never helped. We were there for them. But, here with the Pucketts, they're friends. Well, family, yes. You could just say we're one big family, man. They're there for us. We're there for them. We did make [inaudible] a comment or statement or whatever. How many hunting trips are you behind? You know how many times has he left me and I stayed at home? Well, Lucky got his deer. I was glad because I said, "Good. Now he's done this year."

So he goes and buys a bird tag so he can go out and be with the boys anyway, Which is alright, then I get the house to myself. Yeah. That's what I don't understand. These women think they've got to - one thing is to be equal to the man. And I think it's so nice when they leave and, "Go off, honey." You know, she can clean things or not - even get caught up on things That's why I let Stuarts do the whole deer this year. Cut it up and everything. [baby cries] Looks so much better. It looks bigger - makes the house look newer. That brown was really awful. I can't say what I really feel about that brown. What would your ideal house be? Elegant. Two-story, four bedroom, kitchen that I can work in and, I mean, doesn't look dirty when it's clean. I don't have to worry when the kids turn the water on in the sink. It doesn't run down

the counter onto the floor. Make a mess. Comfortable. I want an elegant, formal living room. Just small, my room, but I want a huge family room for my friends, my family. No carpet. So if we spill anything on it, just mop it up. But I'll have the family room before the living room because that's more important. Family. Now, looking forward, looking ahead this morning. It looked like it was about - Do you want some help? No, I think I'll get this. If you'll get the scale. OK, we've done it enough. I guess it. What? [inaudible] Steaks and chops may be perfect, special recipe. [music] Just hold it there, you won't have any problem.

It's heavy though. [?inaudible?] I think I have your order, Tom. All right. We'll do ya a good job. You bet. You always have. Got it. Thanks, darling. There you go. I was raised in a family where we raised on a ranch. The first chicken and the first calf and the first egg and the first beef went on our table. But we had - surplus is what we sold. So, we took care of our table first. And I think America should take care of its table first. There are two points of view. Those that come to look and those that come to live. [sawing] And, I'll admit whenever we log, it does get cut up a little bit, but it grows back.

In other words, these people want us to stop manufacturing lumber and - and growing and sand and - look, there's just so long you can look at a beautiful scene until you, suddenly, you have to have lunch. That seems to get important, too. But, I think we can have the beautiful scenery. I think we can have the lunch. I think we can have the house. That's what I call the American dream. Yeah. I'd like to have a chicken sandwich in a basket and a fish sandwich in a basket. Coffee? Anything to drink? Yeah. Two coffees. [nothing] Decaf. Okay. Will that be for here or to go? That'll be for here. Okay, thank you. That'll be for here. Thank you. I don't know. I think that I'd want people to think I'd want the world to be right, but no, I'd just like to have my own world right.

Just mine. I guess, it's a little selfish, but [baby cries] we've struggled. John and I have struggled, and I just feel like me and my family. I'm not too concerned with the rest of the world. It's - right now, this is my world. Take it away and I have nothing. And that's what's going to happen if they stop logging. My husband will have to find another line of work, which he can't. He drives truck. Doesn't matter what's in that trailer. He can get that product, whatever it is, someplace. And he's done it. It's just I don't want to have to move someplace else. And that's - we would have to or he would be long hauling, and that's all over the United States. And I could stay here with family, but I don't want him gone for 10 days. Two weeks. He's done it and I don't like it. [engine starts, motor whirring]

OK, this is all National Forest right now. You can see they're hitting it pretty hard. They've only been cutting in the national forest about 25 years, 20, 25 years. And when you look at it from that perspective and how much is gone, it doesn't look like there's very much left - whether we keep this going. When people say

this will last another 10 years, I don't believe it. I think it'll maybe last five or seven years at the max. [airplane noise] As you can see there's nothing real fresh right through here. But if you're a little bit further, you see a lot of real fresh tracks and stuff, but they've been through. Darren got that big four-point buck just right over there. Where? Right there by that timber. Isn't that the knob you're talking about? Yeah, that's a knob? That's normally where we go down the bottom on this side - Lance goes, right? Yeah. And him and I sit on that road. Then you guys go around the back side and come down through that timber and then down to that real brushy stuff.

I kick two bucks out there. Two guys last year and they got him. [road noise] Look at them. That's a visual you- that speaks for itself. That is a true visual with a - Marijuana signs and - If you're going to arrest me, you better have some really good legal information We have that. And what legal boundary does this power line represent? I'm not here to debate that. I'm not - this isn't a debate. This is legal question. We're not going to say you're wrong. I'd like to understand under what authority you're threatening to arrest me. That is, this area is closed for the day. What area? But the power line - Looks like they're destroying the marijuana fields. They're going to go. And they're going to go to the backroads. Or they're going to go around. I'm gonna go hiking into the national forest because the national forests are open to us and that's where I'm going to hike. [airplane noises] We're flying over Warehouser land now. It's one of the biggest tree harvesting companies

in the Pacific Northwest. They call themselves a tree growing company. As you can see that they've decimated this entire valley. And this is what's going to happen to the National Forest if we don't stop. National Forest is not far behind. They're doing the same thing. The National Forest, what they did in the private lands are going to cut it off. [airplane noises] Do you see where he's at? No, I can't see anything. You see his ass. There it is. [inaudible] [footsteps] I can't see any antlers on him. You couldn't see any antlers on it. I was about ready to squeeze off a shot too. [Whistle blows] Get your hands off my property. Unless you're going to arrest me, take your hands off my

property. Let's go out here and talk about it. We'll talk about it here. Why can't we talk about it here? I think I wanna hike along the highway here. OK. You go ahead. Go along the highway. Well, I'm asking you to please stay out of this area. I'm just hiking. down the highway. I said, I'm hiking down the highway. Then get out on the highway and out of this area. It's very dangerous on the highway. There's, there's cars there. I can get hit. I want to go in the woods. National Forests are open to the public, you know. Careful. Don't hurt yourself. Oh do you mean that. [Overlapping chatter] Yeah I do. [chatter] This is called the low blow timber sale. And they told us it was across the street. I think you guys better talk to your employees. I don't think they know exactly what you're talking about. This sign faces the clear-cut unit, low blow. You don't have to believe the environmental side.

You don't have to believe the timber industry. Basically, if you get an airplane, you see what's going on. Then you can make up your own mind how what the real problem is. As far as I'm concerned, the real problem is not the spotted owl. It's not the preservationists or the environmentalists. It's the fact that we've got the entire forest - we're not up against the owl, we're up against the Pacific Ocean. And that's where the problem lies, that this problem that's facing Mill City and everybody else in Oregon right now. It's something that's the result of really bad management over the years, letting politicians manage the national forest. Now we're faced with paying the price. The day of reckoning, the politicians won't pay it. The people of Mill City will pay it. And the people who care about this and the environment and the ecosystem that's here, they're also going to pay it. I think it's ones that want to take over. And that's what probably will eventually happen.

But the majority of the people, the little people like me, not that I'm going to do it, but we're going to get so angry at our judges and higher ups, that we're going to go in and we're going to fight them. We're going to - it's going to be mass murders of of officials. I just have this - I just, this is what's going to happen. People are going get so angry that everything's being taken from them. It's not, it's not going to be whites or blacks. It's everybody. They're all going together - together and they're gonna just go in and I don't know if they'll - I imagine they're going to slaughter the judges, and I don't know about the president. Maybe he'll be there. [fire crackling] I think it would only be fair that we have to go back to living and

giving up all of this country but to them that we had to go back to the same laws and the same way of living that we did 1850 and deal with them. It'd be fun. [Laughs] Frontier, yes. Basically. They have gone so far as to advertise in the Earth First News that if you have AIDS, cancer, an incurable disease, they'll furnish you with a backpack full of explosives and their suggestion is to go out as a martyr. Take a dam with you or take a bridge with you. Yeah, this is the fun part. We'd like to just move up here, live up here, just like this. That's fine with us. Environmentalists want to go back to the olden days, we will go

back to the olden days. Just give us both a plot of ground up here somewhere and some horses, couple of mules or something. [Coughs] I don't know about you guys but that fire is getting hot. I'm a law enforcement officer with the U.S. Forest Service. [whistle] This compound area in front of you is closed to the public. If you enter this area, you may be subject to arrest. [Whistle blows] What are the boundary lines of the public area? [whistle blowing] No, no, no. What are the boundary lines of the closed area? We have a garage right up there and that's part of the compound.

So you can't go any farther up, okay? [Whistle blows] You're under arrest. Come with me. [dog barks] Why am I under arrest? I backed off. He told me where the compound was and I backed off. He told me where the compound was and I backed off. [whistle] [whistle] You're telling me the legal boundaries. I told you, you were on the compound. How far are you going? Behind that wood right there. [whistle] [dogs barking] Get them. Get them. Get them. [Whistle blows repeatedly]. [Attack dogs barking] Oh, what? Why do you have to lie to the public? [whistle] [barking] I wanted to travel.

I just thought it'd be so nice to just go and never stop when I was little. But I don't now. I've done too many moves from California to Oregon. I've done it twice. I don't care to go very far very much anymore. Even if the timber goes, I don't think I will sell my house here. I will keep it as long as I can and live here as long as I can. Even if that means John going out on the road again, I will stay here. ["Family Tree" by Michael Murphey plays]

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Meet the men of Hornet Squadron. Are they heroes or is it all just a game? Piece of Cake marks the coming of age of young men prepared to die for their country. I was impressed by your air display. Piece of cake. [music] And, on the 200th anniversary of the French Revolution, Masterpiece Theater presents the Dickens classic, A Tale of Two Cities. As the flames and fury of rebellion swept across the land, there, too, was a passion that could not be extinguished. Remember always that there is a man who would give his life for you or for anyone he loved. But to achieve the ultimate love, Sydney Carton must face the ultimate sacrifice. We'll journey together in our hearts. Yes, we'll go together. The scope and spectacle of the French Revolution unfolds as Masterpiece Theater presents A Tale of Two Cities. Turn us on this fall and leave us on.

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One of our stories tonight on Washington Week in Review. Ford Motor Company. Worldwide [tape cuts out] This Israeli action failed, however, to stop still more riots. Israel flew the four Palestinians into south Lebanon, gave them a quick medical check and $50 US dollars, which at first they refused, then they were told never come back. [clanging] This is what the deportations were supposed to help stop - Palestinians protesting Israel's occupation. Instead, everyone's joining in. The deportations are a slap in the face to the United Nations, which condemned them. [shouting] They came on the same day, a top U.N. official finally visited a palace - [Tape rewinds]