The NewsHour With Jim Lehrer : WETA : August 14, 2009 7:00pm-8:00pm EDT; The NewsHour With Jim Lehrer

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>> hrer: GOOD EVENING. I JIM LEHRER. ON THE NEWSHOUR THIS FRIDAY,HE LEAD STORY ISEW SIGNS OF ECONOMIC UNEASE ACONSUMERS CUT SPDING. THEN, THE OTHER NEWSF THE DAY: REPORTS FROGRAND JUNCTION, COLORADO, AND OVERSEAS IN BRITAIN, ABOUT THE ON-GOING S. DEBATE OVER HETH CARE REFORM; A LOOK AT A REPORT ONOW BUDGET CONSTRATS MAY GROUND U.S. MANNED SPACE FLIGHT; A RARE INSIDE VIEW OF THE TALIBAN AS AMERICANILITARY OPERATIO EXPAND IN AFGHANTAN; THE ANALYS OF MARK SHIELDS AND DAVID BROOKS; AND EXCERP FROM AN 11-YEAR-OLD REPORTER'S WITE HOUSE INTERVIEW WITH PRESIDENT OBAMA. MAJOR FUNDI FOR THE NSHOUR WITH JIM LRER IS PROVIDED BY:

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>> TALK OF THE RECESON RAN INTO N DOUBTS TODAY. A NEW SURVEY FOUND CNSUMER SENTIMENFELL IN EARLY GUST FOTHE SECOND MONTHIN A ROW. REUTERS AND THE UNIVERSITYOF MICHIGAN REPORT THE FINDIN, TING WORRIES ABOUT SCARCE JOBS AND FALLING INCOM THAT NE FOLLOWED YESTDAY'S VERNMENT REPORT THAT RETAI SALEFELL IN JULY. A ALL RAISED FRESH ARS ON WALL STREET SINCE CONSUMER SPENDING ACCOUNTS F TWO-THIRDS OF THE ECONOMY. THE DO JONES INDUSTRI AVERAGE LOSMORE THAN 76 POIN TODAY TO CLOSE 9321. THEASDAQ FELL MORE THAN 23 POINTS TO CLOSE AT 1985. THAT PUT AN E IT A FOUR-WEE STRING OF INS. THE D WAS OFF AHALF A PEENT THIS WEEK. E NASDAQ FLL .7. TAKE SOUND UP - BRITIS OTHER NEWS TODAY, TWO HIGH- PROFI FUNERALS DREW THOUSANDS OF MOURNERS AND ONLOERS. EUNICE KENNE SHRIVER WAS REMEMBERED INYANNIS, MASSACHUSETTS. THE SISTEOF PRESIDENT KENNEDY AND FOUNDER OF THE SPECL OLYMPICS DIED TUESDAY AT T AGE OF 88. TODAY, R CASKET WAS CARRIED IN A PROCESSIOLED BY SPECIAL OLYIANS AS WELL-WISHERS LINED THE STREETS. NSIDE, FAMILY AND FRIENDS PACKED THE CHUR, INCLUDING SHRIR'S DAUGHTER, MARIA. DETERMINED AND REA TO SURRENDER TOOD. SHE DID IT L, SHE LIVED ITLL AND SHE LOVED US ALL. I THNK IF I SA TO MY MOTHER-- WHEN I OFTEN DID "I CAN' GO ON WITHOUT YOU. I DON'T KW HOW TO LIVE WTHOUT YOU." SHD SAY, "YOU'RE FINE. I'VE RAISED YOU WELL. NOW GET O THERE AND G GOIN YOUR BROTHE WILL BE NICE TO YOU." ( LAUGHR )

>> Lehrer: EUCE KENNEDY SHRIVER'S LAST LIVING BROER, SENAR EDWARD KENNEDY, IS BATTLING BRAIN CANCER D DID NOT ATTE THE FUNERAL. AND IN JACKSONVILLE, FLORID U.S. NAVY PILOT MICHAEL "SCT" SPICHER WAS LAID TO REST, 18 YEARS AFTER HE WASHOT DOWN OVER IRAQ. THOUSANDS OF PEOPLE LINED T STREETS OF SPCHER'S ADOPTED OMETOWN TO WATCH THE FUNERAL PROCESSION. IT FOOWED A 30-MILE ROUTE, PAST HIS RMER SCHOOL, CHURCH, AND MILITARY BASE. THE 33-YEAR-OLD PILOT DISAPPEAREDT THE START OF THE FIRST GULF WAR. HIREMAINS WEREN'T FOUND UNTIL JUST RECENTL A CHARLES MANSON FOLLOR WHO ONCE TRIETO KILL PRESIDENT FORD IS NOW FREE. LYNETTE "SQUEAKY" OMME WAS ELEASED FROM A FEDERAL PRISO IN TEXAS TODAY. IN SEPTEER 1975, FROMME AIMED A PISTOL AT MR. FORD HE ISITED SACRAMENTO, CALIFORNI SECT SERVICE AGENTS GRABBED HER BEFORE ANY SHOTS WERE RED. FROMME WAS NEVER IMPLICATEDN A SERIES OF BRUTAL KILLINGBY MANSON'S GANGN LOS ANGELES IN 1969 MANSON IS DOINGIFE IN PRISON. MICHAEL VICWAS FORMALLY E-INTRODUCED TO PRO FOOTBALL TODAY AFR DOING PRISON TIME. T PHILADELPHIA EAGLES SIGNED T QUARTERBACK TO A ONE-YEAR DEAL LAST NIGHT. VICK SERVED 18 MONTHIN FEDERAL PRISON F HIS ROLE IN RUNNING A DOG-FIGHTING RING. TODAY, HE SAITHE EAGLES OWNER AND COACH HE GIVEN HIM A SECOND CHANCE.

>> I WOULD LIKE TOEXPRESS MY GRATIFICATION TO JEFF LAURIE AND COACHEID, ANDY REID, FOR MAKING ME A PART OF THIS ORGANIZAON AND GIVING ME OPPORTUNITY. I KNOW, AS WEALL KNOW, IN T PAST I MADE SOME MISTAKES. I HAVE DONE SOME TERRILE THINGS MADE RRIBLE MISTAKES. AND NOW I WANT TO BE PART OF THE LUTION AND NOT PROBLEM.

>> Lehrer: VI PLEDGED TO BE AN "AMBASSADOR" FOR THE NATNAL FOOTBALL LEAGUE, AND WORK FOR ANIMAL RIGHTS. THE NFL WILL LET VICK PRACTI AND PLAY IN E LAST TWO PRESEASON GAMES. HE'LL BE CONSIDEREFOR FULL REINSTATEMENT IN MID-OCTOR. THE DEATH TO FROM LAST WEEK'S TYPHOONN TAIWAN HAS INCREASED SHARPLY TO MORE THAN 500. AND DAMAGEIS NOW ESTIMATED AT $1.5 BILLN. THE COUNTRY'S PRESIDENT ANNOUNCEDHE FIGURES TODAY. HE SAID MOST OF THDEATHS WERE IN A SINGLE VILLAGE THAT S BURIED UNR A MUDSLIDE. THE TAIWANESLEADER HAS COME DER HEAVY CRITICISM FOR HIS HANDLING OF THE DASTER.

>> Leer: AND STILL TO COME ON THE NEWSHOUR TONIGHT: THE FUTE OF SPACE FLIGHT; SHIELDS AND BROOKS; THE TIBAN VIEW; AND T WEAVER/OBAMA INTERVIEW. THAT FOLLOWSWO TAKES ON THE HEALTH CARE DEBAT THE FIRST WAS IN THE WEST,HERE PREDENT OBAMA TOOK HIS CAMPAIGN FOR REFORM BA ON THE ROAD TOD. NEWSHOUR CORRESPONDENT BTY ANN BOWSER RERTS FOR OUR HEALTH UNIT, A PTNERSHIP WITH THE ROBERT WOOD JOSON FOUNDATION.

>> Reporter: IN HIS SECONTOWN HALL MEETINOF THE WEEK, THE PRESIDE ONCE AGAIN SHARP ATTACKED IURANCE COMPANIES BEFORE A LARGE CROWD IN BELGRADE MONTANA. . OBAMA WAS INTROCED BY KAIE GIB SON, AANCER SURVOR WHO HEALTH INSURAE WAS CANCELED AFTER SHE WASOLD SHE HAD LESS THAN LESS AN A YEAR TOIVE.

>> TOY WE'RE TALKING ABOUT LKS LIKE KATIE WHO VEAD THEIINSURANCE POLICIES SUDDENL REVOKED EVEN THOUGH HEY WERE PAYI PREMIUM BECAUSE OF A MEDICALONDITION. WE'RE NO DIFFERENT THANATIE AND OTHER ORDINARY AMICANS, NO DIFFENT THAN ANYBODY ELSE. WE ARE HELD HTAGE AT ANY GIVEN MOMENT BY HEALTHNSURANCE COMPANIES THAT DENY COVERA OR DROP COVERAGER CHARGE FEA AT PEOPLE CAN'T AFFORD, AT A TIMEHEN THEY DESPERATELY NE CARE. IT'S WRONG. T'S BANKRUPTING FAMILS. IT'S BANKRUPTIN BUSINESS. AND WE ARE GOG TO FIX IT WHEN WE PASS HEALTH SURANCE REFORM THIS YEAR. ( PLAUSE )

>> Reporter: THE PRESIDT REPEATEDLY TRIED TO DEBUNKOF THE MYTH THAT HAVEBEEN SPREAD ABOUT HEALTH CARE RERM, CITI A FAY AIMED AT A GOVERNMENT-RUN INSURANCEPLAN. EVERYBODY HERE WHO CURRENTLY HAS PRIVATENSURANCE, YOU WOULD MORE THAN LELY STILL BE ON YOUR PVATE INSURANCE PLAN. EMPLOYERS WOULDN'T STOP SUDDENLY PROVIDING HEALTH INSURAE. SO THATS WHEREHIS IDEA OF GOVERNMENT-RUN HEALTH CA CAME FROM. IT IS NOT AN ACCURATE... PORTRAY OF THE DEBATE THAT'S GOING ON IN SHINGTON RIGHT NOW.

>> Rerter: THE AUDIENCE WAS POLITE AND GENERALLY FRIENDLY, BUT HE DIDET SOME TOH QUESTIONS. A MEMBER OF T N.R.A. CHALNGED HIM. HE WAND TO KNOW HOW A HEALTH CARE REFORM PLAN, ESTIMATED TO COST $ TRILLION, WOULD BE PAID FOR.

>> YOU CAN'T TEL US HO YOU'RE GOING TO PAY FOR THIS. YOU'RE SAVING HER YOU'RE VAEFG OVER THERE. YOUE GOING TO TAKE A LITTLE MONEY MERE. YOU'RE GOING TO TAKEITTLE MONEY HERE. BUT YOU HAVE NO MOY. THE ON WAY YOU'RE GOING TO GET OUR-- THAT MONEY RAISE OUR TAXES. YOU SAID U WOULDN'T. MAX BAUCUS SAID H WOULDN'T PUT T A BILL THAT WLL BUT IT'S THE ONL WAY TO DO THAT.

>> I'M HAPP TO ANSWER THE QUTION.

>> THANK U.

>> OVERAL THIS BILLILL COST LET'S SAY ITOSTS $800 BIION TO $900 BILLION. THAT'S A LOT OF NEY. THAT'S A LOT OF MONEY. THAT'S OVER 10 YEAR, THOUGH, ALRIGHT. SO THAT'S $80-90 BILLION A YEAR ABOUT TWTHIRDS OFIT-- TWO-THIRDS-- CAN BE OBTAID BY DOING SOME F THE THINGS I ALREADY MENTNED, LIKE ELIMINATI SUBSIDIESO THE INSANCE COMPANIES. SO YOU'RE RIGHT. THAT'S RE MONEY. I JUST THINK I WOULD RATHER BE GIVING AT MONEY TO THE YOUNG LAY HERE WHO DOESN'T HAVE HEALTH INSURANCE AND GING HER SOME HELP THAN GIVI IT TO INSURANCE COMPANIES MAKING CORD PROFITS. NOW, YOU MAY DISAGREE. I JUST THINK THAT'S AOOD WAY TO SPEND OURONEY. >>Reporter: TODAY'S EVE IN THE TINY ROCKYOUNTAIN TOWN MARKED THE FIRST IN A SWING THROU THREE WESTERNSTATES, WHERE THE WHITE HOUS IS HOPING TO CLARIFY SOME OF T PUBLIC'S CONCERNS ABO REFORM. PRESIDENT OBAMA DOES ESO WESTERN COLORADOOMORROW TO GRAND JUNCTION, A CY OF 45,000 THAT'S RECEIVED A LOT ATENTION LATELY FOR EALTH REFORMIT IMPLEMENTED IN THE 90 s. HERE, A MAJORITY OF DOCTORS WORK TETHER TO OFFER COORDINATED MEDICAL CARE. THE SULT IS SOME OF THE LOWEST MEDICAL COSTS IN THEOUNTRY. FOR EMPLE, 3 BELOW THE NATIONAL AVERAGFOR MEDICARE. DOCTORS ARE NOT SALARIED. THERE PAID FOR EACH SERVICE THEY PERFORM. BUTHE FEES ARE THE SAME FOR MEDICAID PATIENTSND FOR THOSE COVERED BY PRIVATE INSURANCE AND BECAUSE TEY WORK TOGETR, THEY SAVE MONEY BY NOTRDERING EXCESSIVE NBERS OF TESTS. MICHAEL PROMANKO, FAMILY PHYSICIAN, IS PART OF TT SYSTEM ANDUPPORTS WHAT PRESENT OBAMA IS TRYING TO DO. HE THINKS HEALTH CARE REORM CAN BE DONE WITHOUT A LOT OF GOVERNMENT INVOLVEMT, JUST LIKE THEY'VE DONE IN GRD NCTION.

>> THISS SUCH A BIG STICKY POINT RIGHT W AS WE HEAD DOWN THE RD TO POSSIBLE LEGISLATION. THE WHOLE IDEA SHOULDOVERNMENT BE MORE INVOLVED? AND JUNCTION OFFERS A GRAN COMPROMISE ON THATND SHOWS THAT IT CAN BE DONE IN A VERY EFFECTIVE MANNER WITH NONPROFITS THAT ARE ORIENTED TOWARDSHE COMMUNITY AND THE PTIENT, RATHER TN T SHAREHOLDERS AND PROFITS.

>> Rorter: SURVEYS SHOW THAT MOST GRAND JUNCTIONESIDENTS E HAPPY WITH THEIR HEALTH CARE BUTHE ONES WE TALKED TO HAD MA QUESTIONS ABOUT REFORM EFFORTSN THE NATIONAL LEVL. TONY MRS IS AN ENGLISH TEACHE AND DATE COACH AT GRAND JUNCTI HIGH SCHOOL. HIS MOTHER IN INDIANA ALMOST WENT BANKRUPT BECAUSE OFEDICAL COSTS FROM TREATING CANCER. SO HE VERYUCH WANTS REFORM. BU HE HAS MANY QUTIONS ABOUT T PROPOSALS ON THE TABLE.

>> I WOD LIKE TO SEE A PUBLIC BREAKDOWN OF "THIS IS WHAT'S BENG OFFERE THIS IS HOW IT'S GNG TO WORK SDPP THIS IS WHAT YOU WI GET OUT OF IT." AND I THINK TT IF I HAD ONE THINTHEY WOULD SAY TO PRESIDENT OBAMA, THAT HAS TO BE DON BECAUSE UNTIL COMMON, AERAGE, EVERYDAY PPLE CAN REALLY WRAP THEIR HEA AROUND IT AND UNDERSTANDT, THEY'RE NOT GOING SUPPORT IT

>> Repter: WHAT ARE YOU CONFUSED ABOUT?

>> I WOULD LIKE TO KNOW I LOSE MY CURRENT JOB OR I BECOMILL AND CAN NO LGER ORK, WHAT'S IT RLLY GOING TO FFER TO ME THAT ISIFFERENT OM THE STATUS QUO?

>> Reporter:OB CHUREAUS A VETERINARIAN WHO QUIES THE REFORM EFFTS MIGHT MAKE THE HEALTCARE SYSTEM WORSE TH THE STATUS QUO.

>> I FEAR IT WL BE LIKE HEAH CARE I CANADA AND ENGLAND. IT WILL TAKE LONG TIMEO GET THINGSONE, TO GET DAGNOSTIC TREATMENT DNZ AND T GETURGERY DONE, THAT YOUOULDN'T HAVE THE SE RELATIONSHIP WITH YOUR DOCTOR THAT YOU WOUL PREVIOUSLY THAT SOMETHING WOULD HAPPEN THEY WOULD HAVE CERIN GUIDELINES WHEPEOPLE ARE OLD AND OVER A CERTAIN AGE THAT IF THEY HAV CANCER TH'RE JUST GOING TO GI THEM HOSPICE CARE, THINGS LIKE THAT. THAT'WHAT I'M AAIDF.

>> Repoer: GREG AND JEAN DILLON ARE RETIREES. GREG WAS AN ARCHITECT, JEAN A HOSPITAL ADMISTRATOR. THEY ARE REGISTERED REPLICANS BUT VOTED FOR BARACK OBA. TH SUPPORT THE IDEA OF REFORM BU ARE CONCERNED ABOUT HOW FAST IT'S BEING DONE.

>> I GUESSAS COMPLICAD AS I THINK HEALTH RE IS IN COVERE AND ISSUES AND TECHLOGY AND BILGE ISSUES, I WISH THEY COULD SLOW DOWN, HAVE A LITT BIT MORE CONCRETE PLAN OR STEP-BY-STEP PLAN ERE YOU COULD IMPLENT IT IN DEGREES. I DON'T KNOIF THAT'S POSSIBLE.

>> Reporter: BH DLONS ARE MECARE RECIPIENTSAND THEY WORRYHEIR BENEFITS COULD BE CUT.

>> E BIG ISSUE RIGHT NOW IS E BABY BOOMERS COMING ONLINE, AND SO WHAT AREHEIR DEMANDS GOING TO BE ON MICAL CARE? IS THE GOING TO BE RATIONING? WHAT ISOING TO BE THE FALLOUT-- FOR EXAMP, IF A GOVERENT PROGRAM, WILL THE CORPORATEEOPLE START BAILING OUT AND SHOVING EVETHING AT THE PLIC AND SO THESERE-- IS THERE SOME WAY TO KEEP THAT OM HAPPENING BECAUSE ALL OF A SUDDEN MIGHT FIND A SITUATION HERE EVERYBODY IS DUMPING EVERYBODY AND RCING THEM INTO THE PUBLICSIDE OF THIS ISSUE.

>> Reporter: JANET WILKE HAS OWNED THE HOMESTYLE BAKERY FOR 33 YEARS AND CANOT AFFORD TO GIVE HER 16 EMPLOYEES HEALTH BENEFITS. SHE WNTS REFORM BUT SAYS SHS FRIGHNED BY THE COST.

>> I TNK THAT WHAT THEY' TALKING ABT NOW IS GOING TO BE VERY EXPENSIVE. I WANT TO KNOW HOW WE'RE GOING TO PAY FORIT. I FEAR THE COUNTRY GOI DEEPER AND DEEPER INTO DEBT, AND I THINK THAT'S A MAJORONCERN. WE HAVE -- THERE HAS T BE A WAY PAY FORALL OF THIS.

>> Reporter: JANET WILKY IS NOT PLANNING TO ATTEND THE TOWN HALL MEETING TOMOOW BUT THE PRESIDENT WILL NO DOUBT HEAR MANY CONCERNS LIKE HERS WHEN HE COMES TO GRAND JUTION.

>> Lehrer: NOW, HEALTH RE DEBATE, TAKE T. IT'S ABOUT HOW IT HAS TRIERED ANOTHER DEBA IN BRITAIN OVER W ITS GOVERNMENT-OPERATED NATNAL HEALTH SERVICE HAS BEEN PORTRAYEIN THE U.S. NEWSHOUR CORRESPONDENTIMON MARKS HAS TH STORY.

>> ReporterIF THE BRITISH OPINION POLLSRE ANY GUIDE, DAD CAMERON, LEADER OF THE OPPOSITION CONSERVATIVEARTY, STANDS A GOOD CHANCE OBEING THE COUNTRY'S NEXT PRIME MINISTER. NATIONAL ELECTIONSRE DUE TO TAKE PCE BY NEXT SPRING. ND TODAY, THE MAN WHO FACES F AGAINST THEURRENT PRIME MINISTER, GORDON BWN, WAS MOVING TO PROJECT HSELF AS AN DENT DEFENDER OF BRITAIN'S GOVERNMENT-N NATIONAL HEALTH SERVICE.

>> WE'LL INVEST IIT, WE'LL EXAND IT. WE THINK IT'S A ALLY IMPORTANT ANGREAT NATIONAL INSTITUTION. THE FACT TH, IN THIS COUNTRY, YOU N GO TO A HOSPITAL, YOU CAN GTO A FAMILY DOCTOR, AND THEY DOT ASK YOU HOW MUCH MONEY IS YOUR BANK ACCOUNT OR O YOU ARE, IT'S ONE OF OUR GREANATIONAL INSTITUTIONS AND WE WANT TO EXPAND I

>> Reporr: MR. CAMERON'S PUBLIC PRONOUNCEMENTS RESULTED FROM THE BRISH PUBLIC REACTION TO THIS, ONE IN A SIES OF U.S. DIA APPEARANCES BY DANIEL HANNAN, WHO REPRESENTS . CAMON'S CONSERVATIVE PARTY IN E EUROPEAN PARLIAMENT, ANDHO HAS BEEN UQUITOUS THIS WEEK ON CONSERVATIVE CABLSHOWS AND TALK RADIO, SLAMMING THE NATIONAL HEALTH SERVE.

>> THHEALTH CARE SYSTEM WE HAVE IS A KIND RELIC OF AN ERA IN BRITAIN WN THE STATE WAS CONSIDEREALL-POWERFUL AND BENIGN, AND WHEN WE HAD RATIONING AND WHENE HAD I.D. CARDS AND WHENE HAD MASS NATIONIZATION. D WE ARE STILL STUCK WITH BECAUSE, YOU KW, ONCE YOU GET A SYSTEM LI THAT, IT IS ALMOST IMPOSSIBLE TO GET RID OF.

>> Rorter: BUT WHILE THE H.S. HAS NOT ALWAYS BEEN ENTIRY BELOVED BY ALL BRITONS, THE PUBLIC REONSE TO MR. HANN'S COMMENTS MOBILIZED ONLINE, VIA THE INSTANT MESSAGING SERVICE TWIER. WHERE A FEED CALLED "WLOVE THE N.H.S." HAS ENCOURAGED THSANDS OFRITISH SUPPORTERS TO CREDIT THE SYSM WITH CURING THEIR ILLS, AND ISOME CASES, WITH VING THEIR LIVES. THE PRIME MINISTER, GORDON BROWNAND HIS WIFE PERSONALL CONTRIBUTED TTHE DISCUSSION, USING TWITTER, SAYING IN T U.K., THE HEALTH SERVICES THE FFERENCE "BETWEEN LIFE AND DEATH". SENSINTHAT HIS PARTY WAS BEING:D TIED TO THLOSING SIDE OF A GROWING PUBLIC STORM, DAV CAMERON TODAY FOUND HSELF DISOWNINTHE VIEWS OF DANIEL HANNAN, ONE OF S OWN LAWMAKERS.

>> HE DOES HAVE SOME QUITE ECCENTRIC VIEWS ABOUT SOM THINGS, AND POLICAL PARTIES ALWAYS INCDE SOME PEOPLE WHO DON'T TOW THE PAY LINE ON ONE ISE OR ANOTHER ISSUE. Reporter: THERE ARE OTHER BRITISH VOICES TT HAVE BEEN INJECTED IO THE U.S. DEBATE ON HEALTHCARE. LOBBY GROUP CALLED CONSERVATIVES FOR PATIEN' RIGHTS PDUCED THIS VIDEON WHICH SOME DISSISFIED N.H.S. PATIENTS CRITIQUE THE RVICE. THE NATIONAL HEALTH SERVICEAS FOUNDED AT THE END OF THSECOND WORLD WAR, AND ESTABLIED TO OFFER HEALTHCARE TO ALBRITISH CITIZENS, REGARDLESS OF THR AGE, OCCUPATION, OR THEI ABILITY TO PAY. PUBLICLY-FUNDED DOCTORSND SURGEONS, WHOPERATE WITHIN THE NATIONAL HEAH SYSTEM, ARE PAID THEIR SALARIES BYHE GOVERNMENT. BRITAIN, PATIENTS ARE OFFER FULL HETH COVERAGE THAT IS FREEF-CHARGE AT THE POINT-OF- SERVICE. THEY PAY FOR THE SYEM AS PART OF THEIR NATIONAL NUAL TAXES. SE LIBERALS IN THE UNITED STAS, LIKE FILM-MAKER MICHAEL MOORE, HAVE, IN T PAST, SEIZED ON THN.H.S. AS A MODEL THE U.S. MIGHT CONSIDEEMULATING.

>> TH GUY BROKE HIS ANKLE. MUCH IS THIS GOG TO COST HIM? WILL THERE BE SOME HUGE BIL >>N THE N.H.S., EVERYTHING IS FREE.

>> Reporter: BUT THE HEALTHARE REFORM PROPOSS BEING DEBATED ON CAPITOHILL BEAR ALMOST NO RESEMBLANCE TO THE BRITH HEALTH CARE SYEM. AND WHILE PRIDENT OBAMA AND MANY DEMOCRATS FAVORS GOVERNMENT-ADMINISTED INSURANCE PLAN AS ONE OION TO COMPETE WITH PRIVATE INRERS, THE MAJORITY OF THE AMERIC EALTH CARE SYSTEM WOULD REMA PRIVATE. IN THE U.K., PRIVATE ALTH INSURANCIS CARRIED BY ONLY AROUND 13% OF THE POLATION. AND IN ANTMOSPHERE IN WHICH THE NATION HEALTH SERVICE IS CONSIDERED AS BRITISHS DOUBLE- DECKER BES AND FISAND-CHIPS, ONE N.H.S. PATIENTHO HAS CRITICIZETHE SERVICE ON THIS SI OF THE ATLANTIC IS TELLING AUDIENCES OR THERE SHE WAS DUPED INTO APPRING ON A NSERVATIVE VIDEO.

>> OBVIOUSLY, I FL THAT THE N.H.S. LET ME DOWN, BUT AT DOESN MEAN THAT THE N.H.S. DOES BAD THINGS. I NOW THAT IT DOESMAZING THGS, AND IT'S A LIFE-SAVER FOR MILLIONS OF PEOP.

>> Reporte THERE HAVE BEEN MANY DEBATES IN THE PAST ABOUT LEVE OF FUNDING FOR THE STEM AND WAITING LISTS THAT CAN DELAY TREATMENT, METIMES FOR LIFEHREATENING AILMENTS. BUT ON TWITTER TODAY, O SUPPORTER OF E SYSTEM DESCRIBED THE HLTH SERVICE AS "ONE REASON OUR COUNTRYS AN" R THAN THEIRS, INDICATION OF HOW BEDDED THE SERVICE IS THE PSYCHE OF THE BRITISH PUBLIC.

>> Lehrer: NEXT TONIGHT, SOBERING WORDS ABT THE AMERICAN SPACPROGRAM AND ITS OSPECTS. JUDY WOODRUFHAS OUR SCIENCE UNIT STORY.

>> Reporr: IT'S BEEN MORE THAN THREE DECADES SINCAN AMERICAN TOUCHED DOWN ON THE MO. IN 2004, PRESIDT GEORGE W. BUSH PROPOSED GOING BACK ERE, BY THE YEAR 202 AND EVENTUAY TO AIM FOR MARS. THAT PLAN CALLED FOR REACING E SHUTTLE FLEET WITH NEW KIN OF SPE VEHICLES. BUT THE IDEA OF TURNING TO THE MOON RAN INTO CONSIDERLE SKEPTICISM -- BOTH ON ITSERITS D OVER QUESTIONS OF ADDITION NDING FOR NASA. THIS SPRING, PREDENT OBAMA COMMISSIONED A PANEL TO SDY THE PROS ANCONS OF RETURNING HUMANS TO SPACE. BUT DURINRECENT PUBLIC MEETINGS, SEVERAPANEL MEMBERS QUSTIONED WHETHER THERE'S EVEN ENOUGH MONEY TO FUND THE RRENT PROGRAM. EARLIER TODAY, THEANEL PRESENTED ITS FINDINGS TO ITE USE ANNASA OFFICIALS IN WASHINGT. IT CONCLUDED THAHUMAN MISSIONS TO THE MOON BY 2020 M BE UNREALISTIC. BUT ERE WERE OPTIONS THE PANEL CONSIDERED WORKABLEINCLUDING GOING EAD WITH NASA'S NEXT GENERATION OF VEHIES FOR HUMAN ACE FLIGHT -- A ROCKET PROGM THAT COULD GO THE MOON EVNTUALLY AND ELSEWHERE. EXTENDINGHE LIFE OF THE INTERNATIONAL SPACE ATION NTIL 2020, USING COMMERCIAL ROCKETS TO GET THE. AND CONTINUING TO Y THE SHUTTLE UNTIL AS TE AS 2015, ILE WORKING ON A NEW DESIGN THAT COULD REACH T MOON. I TALKED WITH THEANEL'S CHAIRMAN NORMAN AUGUSTINET HIS OFFICES IN BETHESDA, RYLAND. HE'S THEORMER CEO OF LOCKHEED MARTIN. THANK YOU VE MUCH FOR TALKING WITH US.

>> NICE BE HERE. YOU ARE JUST BACK FROM E WHITE USE. YOMADE THIS PRESENTATION. WHAT WAS THEEACTION?

>> REALLY, WE'VE GIVEN THE WHITE HOUSE AILEMMA. THE SPACE PROGM WE HAVE TODAY, TH HUMAN SPACE FLIGHT PROGRAM, REALLY ISN COUTABLE WITH THE MONEY WE HE. SO EITHER WE HAVE D SOMETHING WTH THE CURRENT PROGRAM THAT'S NOT GOING TO BE VERY SUCCESUL, I'M AFRAID OR END FOR SOMETHING REALLY EXCITING AND WORKABLE AND THAT'S THE CHALLENGE THE WHITE HOE IS GOI TO HAVE IS TO SORT THA OUT.

>> Reporter: "NOT COMPUTABLE." IS TT BECAUSE OF THE COST? >>RIMARILY THE MONEY." THERE ARE REAL TECICAL HALLENGES. FOR EMPLE, WE DON'T REALLY KNOW THE EECT OF GALACT COSMIC RAYS ONUMAN BEINGS THAT AR IN OER SPACE FOR LONG PERIODS OF TIME. WE THINK THE EFECTS COULD BE VERYAD. WE ALSO KNOW THAT WEHTLESSNESS HAS A SERIOUS IMPACT O HUMANS WN THEY'VE BEEN EXPOSEDTO IT FOR A LONGIME. AND WHEN ONE TALKS ABOUT GOING TMARS, FOR EXAMPLE, WEE TALKG ABOUT 180 DAYS O FLIGHT TO GET THER AND 180 DAYS TO COME BACK AND PROABLY A YEAR O MARS TO GET THE PLANETS TO LINE UP SO THEY CAN COME BACK. SO THE ARE A WHOLE NEW SET OF CHLLENGES ONE FACES WHEN ONE LOOKS AT ELORATION IN OUTER SPACE.

>> Repoer: SO SAFETY IN HUMAN LIFE WAS A BIG CONSIDERATION?

>> SAFETY IS THE FUAMENTAL DRIVER HERE. HE MOON WAS A HUGE ALLENGE IN ITS DAY, BUT MARS IS ANEVEN GREATER CHALLEE TODAY. FOR EXALE, ON THE MOON, YOUE FOUR DAYS AW FROM TTING HOME AND FROM TTING HELP. CERTAINLY, ONHE MOON YOUAN LK BACK AND FORTH LIK WE ARE NOW. ON THE OTHER HAND, IFYOU HAVE SOMEONE ON MARS AND SOMNE ON EARTH, AND MISSION CONTOL IS TRYING TO HELP TM AND YOU K A QUESTION, IT TAKES 20 MINUTES FOR YOUR QUESTION T GET TO MARS AT THE SPEED OF LIT AND SOMETHING LIKE0 MINUTES TO OME BACK. F YOU SAY, "IS THERE SMOKEN THE CAPSULE?" IT'S 40 MINUTES BEFORE YOU GET AN ANSWER. SO THEY'RE ALLY ON THEIR OWN OUTHERE.

>> Report: SOME PEOPLE ARE GOING TO LISTEN TO THIS, LO AT THISND SAY, "WAIT A NUTE. WE WENT TO THE MOON DECADES AG WHIS IT SO HARD TO GO BACK BY 2020?"

>> WE SPENT AT THAT TME 4.4% OF THE FEDERAL BUDGET GOI TO THE MON EACH YEAR DURING THAT PERIO TODAY, I THI IT'S SOMEWHERE AUND .7% WE'RE SPENDIN. WHEN WE WENT TO THE MO, WE SPENT AOT OF MONEY, AND I THINK ONE THING PELE FORGET WE WENT WENT TO THE MOON DUNG THE MIDE OF THE VIETNAM WAR, A HUGE WAR. SO I THINK IT TEACHES A LESSON THAT THE QUESTION IS PRIORITIES. THIS COUNTR COULD AFFORD TODO GREAT THINGS. IT'S A QUESTI OF WHAT THE PRIORITIES ARE.

>> Reporter: WAS THEREAN UNDERLYING PHILOSOPHY ABO WHAT THE U.S. APPROACH TO SPACE EXPLORATION SHOULD BE HE?

>> WEN WE BEGANOTHER THAN THE KIND OF FUNDAMENT BELIEF MOST OF HAD THAT MARS IS A LOGICAL PLACE WE'D LIKE TO WIND UP, THERE ARE OTHER INRESTING INGS YOU COULD DOCK WH AN TEROID. U COULD GO BACK TO THE ON. YOU COULD GTO ONE OF MAR'S PLANETS. B OTHER THAN THAT, I DON'T THINK THERE WAS AN UNDERLYING ASSUMPTION. SOME OF US HAD OUR OWN BELIEFS D WE CHANGED THOSEELIEFS A LOT BY WH WE'VEEARNED DURING THESEAST 90 DAYS. WE START OUT WITH OVER 3,0 OPTIONS THAT WE STARTED LOOK AT ND NARROWED I DOWN TO 16 ERIOUS OPTIONS, AND WE'REOING TO OFER FOUR OPONS, PLUS THE BASIC OGRAM, TO THE PRESIDENT.

>> Rerter: THERERE REFERENC IN HERE TO RELYING ON COMMERCIAL SPACE ELORATION. HOW MUCH OULD WE EXPECT TO SEE THAT? IS THAT THE WAVE THE FUTURE?

>> I THINK COMMERCIAL SPACE FLIGHT I GOING T BE AN IMPORTANT PCE OF THE FURE. THERE'S A CERIN ANALOGY TO THE AIRLINEN THE EARLY DAYS WHEN THE GORNMENT GAVE THE STRUGGLNG AIRLINES CONTRACTS TO CARRY THE MAIL. UARANTEED THOSE CONTRACTS. TODAY,ASA KNOWS HOW TO PU HINGS IN LOWER ORBIT. WE DIDHAT ROUTINELY-- THAT'S PROBABLY NOT THE RIGHT WORD, B WE DO I FREQUENTLY. IT SEEMS UNREASONABLE TO USTHAT NASA SHLD SPEND ITS TME REPEATEDLY DOING WHAT KNOWS HOW TO DO. ASA OUGHT TO BE EXPLORING OUTER SPACE AND DOING W THINGS D TURNING OVER THE TRANSRTATION OF WEIGHTND PEOPLE-- GOODS AND PEOPLE TO LOWER ORBITHICH BY THAT I MAN AEW HUNDRED MILES ABOVE THE EARTH. THAT SHOULD BE A COMMERCIAL DEAVOR INOUR VIEW AND TO MAKE THAT POSSIBLE SOMEONE HA TO GUARANTEE A MARKET, A THAT'S THE GOVERNMENT, JU AS IT DID INHE POSTAL SERVICE DAYS.

>> Reporter: IF MONE WERE NO OBJECAT ALL-- AND I KNOW THAT'S A FTASY-- IS IT CLEAR IN YOURIND WHAT THE UNITED STATES SHOU DO IN SPACE?

>> I THINK IT IS. AND THINK WE DON'T EV HAVE TO HAVE A SITUATIO WHERE MONEY IS NO OBJET. THE NASA BUDG WERE INCREASE THE TOTAL NASAUDGET BY ABT 2, WE COULD SET ON A VERY LICAL PATH, I THINK, TO DO FLY-S BY OF MA, TO GO BACK TO THE MOON, TO VISI THE MOS OF MARS AND ND ON AN ATEROID, AND EVENTUALLY LANDN MARS. AND WE COULDDO IT, I THINK, SAFELY AND WITH TENOLOGY WE KNOW00 EVENALLY PRODUCE.

>> Repter: OVERAL, I THINK ST PEOPLE WOULD REE, THIS IS A R CRY FROM JOHN F. KENNEDY, 11 CLARION CALL LET'S PUT A MAN ON THE MOON. ISHAT PERMANENY BEHINDUS AS A COUNT, JUST A DISTANT DREA

>> WELL, I THI THE WHAT RESIDENT KENNEDY WAS SPEAKING IN A DIFFERENCE SEE. WE WERE A RACE WITH THE RUSSIANS. SOME OF OUR COMPANIES ARE NOW PARTNERS WITH THE SSIANS. IT IS DIFFERENT ERA. ON THE OTHER HAND,ODAY, JUST SAW A POLL, 72OF THE PEOPLE AID THEY-- THA THE SPACE PROGM WAS IMPORTANT TO TH. 52% SAID THEY CARED A LOT ABOU THE SPACE OGRAM. PEOPLE CARE,AND AS A MATTER OF FACT, TWO OF THE MICO OF OUR GROUP WERESTRONAUTS. ONE OF THEM WAS SALLY RIRKD THE FIRST MAN IN SPACE. AND EVRYWHERE WE WENT, PEOPLE CROWDEDROUND THEM. SPACE I IMPORTANT, IHINK. IT'S ONE OFHE DIMINISHING NUMBER OF ARE WHER AMERICA STILL HAS A LE AND IF WE DON'T LEA, SOMEONE ELSEILL. >>Reporter NOR AUSTINE, THANK YOU VERY MUCH R TALKING WITUS.

>> THANK YOU

>> Lehrer: AND TO THANALYSIS OF SELDS AND BROOKS-- SDICATED COLUMNIST MARK SHIELDS AND "NEW YK TIMES" COLUMNISDAVID BROOKS. HOW DYOU PORTRAY THE SAGA OF THE HEALTH CARE DEBATEN THIS FRIDAY NIG?

>> WELL, THE PLS ARE STILL TERRLE. THERE'S STILL A MAJORY AGAINST IT. SO 'S SORT OF AN ODDITUATION ERE YOU LOOK IN WASHINGTON, YOU SEE PRETT MUCH MOMENTUM TOWARD IT, SL COMPROMISES AND YOU SEE THEEMOCRATS WITH PLENTY OVOTES, BUT AREE REALLY GOING TO PA THE MOST MAJOR DOMEST REFORM IN A GENERATION WHEN THEMAJORITY OF THE AMERAN PEOPLE ARE AGAINST IT? THAT'S SORT OF AN ODDITY. AND TH SECOND THING, AS 'VE SEEN IN THESE HIGHLY REASONE WN HALL MEETINGS I THE COTRY,IT'S PRET TRADITIONALLEFT-RIGHT FIGHT. YOU HAVE REPUBICANS AND DEMOCRATAND IN THE AGE OF OBAMA WHERE WE'RE SUPPOS TO SE ABOVE THAT, OBAMA HAS GOT HIMSELF INTO A PRETTY TRADITIONAL PARTISANATTLE, THE HEALTH CARVERSION OF THE THOMASEARINGS OR SOM OTHER VERY H PARTISANIGHT. Lehrer: IS PRESIDENT OBAMA MAKING ANY INROA IN GETTING BA HIS SUPPORT?

>> I TNK--. >Lehrer: GETTING IT I THE FIRST PLE?

>> I THINK AFER A ROUGH PATCH, I THINK HE-- THEY HAD A PRETTY GOOD WEEK. I MEAN, I THINK THAT THE ARGUMENT THAT THESE TOWN MTINGS, AT LEAST THE OUT OF FOURF THEM WERE REASONED EVENTS, TAT THEY WEREN'TUST BRAWLS AND FIHTS--.

>> hrer: PEOPLE DON'T SEEM TO BE TAKING HIM ON AT THESE TOWN MEETINGS.

>> A MAN O WORKEDOR PRESIDENT EISENHOWER AND NIXON A FORD ONCEAID, "I DON'T KNOW CARE WHO IT . THE MOST POWERF COMMITTEE CHAIRMAN, THE MOSTNFLUENTIAL C.O., JUST GIVE ME FIVE MINUTES WITH E PRESIDENT AND I CANURN HIM AROUND. AND HE SID, I DOT CARE WHO IT IS YOU BRING HIM INTO THE PRESIDENT ESPECIALLY IN THE OVAL FICE, AND TH END UP WALKING OUT SAYING,PRESIDENT, GOD BLESS YOU. WE'RE WITH Y. WE'RE DOING A WONDFUL JOB." AN I THINK IT'S A LOT TOHER TO BE CFRONTATIONAL WITH THE PRESIDET. IN A STRANG WAY, I THINK THE PRESIDENTEEDS IT BECAUSE--.

>> Lehrer: TO BE PICED ON? >>E NEEDSHAT MOMENT. HE NEEDS THAT DEFININ MOMENT. E INTENSITY AND THE PASSION ARE ON THETHER SIDE, ARE AGAINST IT. DAVID'S RIGHT. FOUR OUT OF FIVE DEMOCRATS ENORSE WHAT THE PRESIDENT IS DOG. ONE OUT OF 10 REPUBLANS DOES. IEPENDENTS HAVE SLIPPED AND THEY' GOT TO BE W BACK. AND JUST THINK THE PRESIDENT HAS TO BE-- A WHAT THE PROBLEM IS HIS STNGTHS IN THE CAMPAIGN DAVID TOUCHED ON IT, WAS THAT HE WAS SO REASOD AND SO REFLECTIVE ANDO THOUGHTFUL. AND NOT SOMEONE WHO APPEALED TO EMOTIONS BUT EY NEED AN EMOTIONALLY FINING MOMENT, I THINK.

>> Lehrer: ME TO FORGET THA

>> NO, I ACTUALLY THINK HE NEEDS TO REASSURE PEOPLE. THEOWN HALLEETING TODAY IN MONTANA PEOPLE ARE SCARE AND VERY ANXIOUS. WE'VE HAD THE GOVERNMENT TAKING OVER THEARS, TAKINGVER THE INSURANCE, TAKINGVER THE BANKS. NOW IT'S GOINGTO TAKE OVER HEALTH CA. I HOUGHT REASONED PART WAS THE BEST PART OF HIS RFORMANCE TODAY. THPROBLEM IS HE'S REALLY GOOD TALKING ABOUT WITHY NEED CHANGEND WHATHANGE WOULD LOOK LIKE IF W HAD A GO SYSM. HE'S NOT SOD SEW GOOD TALKING ABOUT WHAT THE PN IS. AND THAT'S WHERE THE ANXIETY IS. THE OTHETHING IS HE JUST TELLS A T OF WHOPPERSNOW. BELIEVE ME, RUSH LBAUGH AND SAH PALINARE SAYINGSOME THINGS EXTREMEL OFF THE CHARTS UNTRUE OF THE PLAN BUT I WROTE DOWNOME OF THE THINGS BALMA SAID WHICH WAS A WHOPPE HE SAID EVERYBODY CLD KEEP THEIR PLAN. SIX MILLION ARE GOING TO LOSE THEIR PLAN. PREVENTIVE MEDICINE WILLOST $90 MLION. GOVERNMENT WOULD BE OUT THE HETH CARE DECISIONS. HE TELLS ONE THI AFT ANOTHER MAKING IT SEM SO EASY. BELIEVE ME, THIS I NOT EASY. IT'S GOI TO TAKE SOME SACRIFICES AND SOMEREALLY PAINF CUTS FOR PEOPLE TO GET THISYSTEM UNDER CONTROL,ND OFTEN, WHEN I LOOKT HIM, I THINK HE'S OVER-PROMISING, NOT AS MUCHS THE OTHER SIDE BUT TO A SIGNIFICANT DEGR.

>> CERTAINLY NOT A MUCH AS OTHER OTHER SIDE BECSE THE OTHER SIDE, I THINK, HAS GONE BEYOND THE PALE. THE FEAIS NOT JUST ABOUT TH AN. THERE'S A AR OF ROBBINGHE LAN I MEAN, BETWEEN 20 AND 2009, THE PRITE SECTOR BASICALLY DIDN'T CREATE ANY JOBS IN IS COUNTRY. THERE'S A FEAR, IF YOU LIVEN OH, YOU CAN'T SEE YOUR GRANDCHILDREN UNLESS YOU DVE A C OR B SOMEWHERE BEUSE UR FAMILY IS MOVING AWAY. CHANGE HAS COME VY NEWSCAST THIS COUNTRY. I THINK THERE IS ANNXIETY. I THINK ERE IS A CONCERN, D I THI HE WAS REASSURING ON THAT. >>ehrer: WHAT ABOUT THE WHOPPERS? PREVENTIVE CARE, I MEA, EVERYBODY I'VE EVER TALKE TO IN MEDICINE SAYS IF Y CAN GET PEOPLE TO STOP SMOKIN, WHICH IS A FO OF PREVENTIVE CRE YOU E NOT ONLY EXTENDING LIVES. YOU'RE SAVING BILLIONSND BILLIONS OF DOLLARS.

>> Lehrer: HE SAME THING ABOUT OBESITY. > THAT STUFF IT FINE BUT IF YOU' TESTING SMEBODY FOR AN ILLNESS, YOU HAVE TO TEST 100 TO FIND FIVE. IF YOU LOOK AT THE STUDIES AND THE OTHERESEARCH, IT DON'T VE YOU MONEY. WE SHOULD DO IT,UT BECAUSE YOU HAVE TO TESSO MANY PEOPLE TO GE THE FEW YO ARE REALLY GOING TO PREVENT SERIOUS ILLNESSROM, YOU' REALLY NOT ADDING TO A LOT OF COST SAVING. Lehrer: WHAT ABOUT THE DEATH PANEL THING? W DOES THAT CATCH FRE THE WAY IT DID OR IS THAT FI OVER?

>> I THINK JACKIE THOMPSON IN THE "MES" HAD A VERY GOOD PIECE ON THE ORIGINS OF IT. IT WAS-- BETSY McCALLIE, LIEUTENANT VERNOR OF NEW YORK, AND GEORGE PATAKI, FONE TERM, EARNED A REPUTATION AN OPPONENT "CLINTON CARE," BASICAL WAS THE PERPETRATOR OF THIS. AND ON BILL BENNETT'S RDIO SHOW. AND SARAH PALIN PICK IT UP. I MEAN, JUST MADE OUTRAGUS AND INDEFENSLE STATEMENTS THAT "M PARENTSND OUR DOWN SYNDME BABY WOULD HAVE TO APPAR BEFORE A DEATH PANEL TO DETERMINE WHETHER THEY WERE WORTHY OF LIVING." AND NEWT GINGRICH, WSE PRIFUL ABOUT HIS INTELLECT BASICALLY BACKED R UP.

>> hrer: DID SENATOR GRASSY SAID SOMETHING.

>> SENATOR GRASSLEY. THREPUBLICAN SENATOR FROM ALASK, JOHNNY AKSON, THE REPUBLICANENATOR FROM GEOIA'S CREDIT, TOOK IT ON AND SD THIS IS OUTRAGEOUS AND DEFENSIBLE. IT DES CHEEN THE DEBATE IT DOES SCAREEOPLE AT A TE WHEN PEOPLE ARE AFID. IT SPREADS IEFENSIBLE FEAR0u AND BASESS FEAR.

>> Lehr: YOUR POINT IS THE'S ENUGH TO BE AFRAID ABOUT--

>> WITHOUT THIS KIND OF STUFF. FIR, THERE IS NO DEA PANEL IN THE BILL, FUL STOP. THAT IS FOR SRE. BUT IF WE'RE ING TO GET SERIOUS ABOUT COST COROL, WE ARGOING TO HAVE TO HAVE SERIOUS DISCUSSION ABOUTHE AMOUNT OF CA AND EXPENSE OF CARE WEGIVE AT THE END O LIFE. THAT'S JUST A CT. SIF YOU WANT TO CALL IT A "DATH PANEL," CALL IT THAT. BUT IT'SBOUTAVING SERIOUS DCUSSIONS ABOUT CARE AT THE END OF FE. AND WE'RE GOING HAVE TO HAVE HA THOSE DISCUSSIONS. INOME WEIRD WAY, I'M PRO-DATH PANEL. I WANTO HAVE THOSE DISCUSONS, WHETHER IT'S ONE ON ONE OR JU AS A SOCIETY. AND THIS IS A FDAMENTAL PROBLEM I THINK WITH THIS WHOLE PRESS. WE HAVETO HAVE SERIOUS DIUSSIONS ABOUT WHO'S GOIN TO SE IN ALL THIS BECAUSE WE'VE GOT A RUNAWAY SYSTEM,ND EVERY TIME YOU ME A MINOR SUGGESTION A HI OF A MINOR SGESTION-- OR ITHIS CASE NOT EVEN A HIT AN EXAGGERION, PEOPLE GO RAZY. HOW ARE WEOING TO GETHE SYSTEM UNDER CONTL.

>> Lehr: YOU MENTIONED THE NAME "CLINTON." HOW ABOUT SECRETA OF STATE CLINTO WHAT DO YOU THINK OF HE TRIP TO AFRICA AND THE OUTBST?

>> I THOUGHT I WAS AN ABSOLUTELY LEGITIMATE OUURST. I THOUGHT IT WASN IMPORTANT TRIP--.

>> Lehr: TO REFRESH PEOE'S MEMORS. MEBODY SAID WHAT DOES PRESIDENT CLION THINK ABOUT SOMETHING, AND SHE SA--

>> SHE SAID, "I'M THE SECRETA OF STAT. ION'T CHANNEL MY HUSBAND. BASICALLY, UP TO THE KNOW WT HTHINKS, ASK HIM YOURSELF.

>> Lehrer: & HE LAND TO BE-- AT TH MOMENT, I THINK HE WAS CELEBRATING HIS BIRTHD PRETURELY IN LAS VEGAS, AND $240 STAKE.

>> Lehre I CAN'T EVEN IMAGINE.

>> BUT,ISTEN, AFRICA IS CRUCIAL. WE'RE IN A FIERCE COMPETITION FOR INFLUEE ANDNGAGEMENT WITH CHINA, WI RUSSIA. I THOUGHT MESSAGE SHE DELIVERED, WHERE ARE SHE GOES, SHE BRIS CAMERAS. SHE BRINGS MICROPHONES--.

>> Lehrer: AND SHE TKS STRAIGH

>> SHE DS.

>> THE240 A 1 STEA THAT AN INSULT? HOW MUCH A THE CARROTS?

>> Lehrer: THE COST FOREIGN POLICY.

>> AS FOR CLINTON, THOUGHT HER RESPON WAS COMPLETELY PROPRIATE. THE QUESTION WAS ISULTING, SO-- I S FINE WITH IT. AS FOR AFRICA. ONE OF TH NICE-- THE GOOD NEWS STORIES ABOUT AFRICA THAT THERE HAS ENNSTITUTIONAL CHANGE IN COTRY AFTER COUNTRY. NOW, WE'VE HAD OUR PBLEMS WITH SOUTH AFRICA AND OTH COTRYS-- SUDAN, OBVIOUSLY-- BUT THEREAS BEEN INSTITUTIONAL IMPROVEMENT ON THAT CONTINENTN NY, MANY GOVERNMENTS. AND I THINK PA OF THE ACHIEVEMENT OFHE BUSH ADMINISTRATION (LY WAS THE LLENNIUM... ACCOUNTS A SHE'S BUILDING ONHAT, I THINK, THE OBAMA EMOTION A AS-- ADMINIRATION AS WELL.

>> Lehrer: WHAT SHOULDE SAID ABOUT CALINE KENNED

>> TALK ABOUT PRESINT PRAL SIBLINGS, AND THEYE EMBARRASSMENTS AND SEEK PRESIDENTIAL PARDONS AND UNFL RIG THINGS. AS FAR AS PRESIDENTIAL SIBLINGS GO, ITHINK EUNE KENNEDY SHRIVER WAS THE GOLD STANDARD.

>> Lehrer: WHY?

>> WELL, ELTAIL YOU WHY--.

>> Lehrer: YOU KNEW HER.

>> I KNEW HER. AND I RESCTED HER. SHE WAS ENORMOUSLY FORMIDAE. DON'ROMANTICIZE HER INTO THIS SWEET LITTLE THING. SHE WAS TOUGH AS NAILS. AND SHE HAD AN IRON WILL. AND I WILL SAY THIS-- SHE-- H BROTHER, JOHN, AND ROBE AND EDWARD, WON THE HEADLINES, AND TH WON THE PLACE IN THE HTORY BOOKS. SHE ACTUALLY CHANGED E NATION. I MEAN, WHEN SH BEGAN PEOPLE WITH MNTAL DISABILITES, DOWN SYNDROME D OTHERS, WERE KE VERY CH IN THE SHADOWS, IN THE OLD SHADOWS OF INDIFFERENCE, IN WAREHOUSES. SHE BASICAL, THROUGH HER WILL AND DETERMINATN THROUGH THE SPECIAL OLYMPIC, LAID THE WAY FOR INCLUS IN OUR SOCIETY AND ACCEPTCE. AND SHE NOT ONLY CHANGED THE WAY WE FELTBOUT MENTALLY CHALLENGED INDIVIDUALS. SHE CHAED THE WAY THEY FELT ABOUT THEMSELVES. TO COMPETE AS ATHLETES AND IN JOBS AND SCHLS. E MADE AMERICA A MORE HUMANE PLACE AND WHAT A LEGACY

>> Lehre I REMEMBER JUDY WOODRUFF'S PIECE ONHE DAY S DIED, DAVID, AND WE N A CLAIM OF THE SPEECH SHE MADE,HAT HAD ALL THOSE RIBONS OF ROBERT KENNEDY AN JOHN KENNEDY AND BOBBY KENNEDY. SHE WAS TALKG ABOUT SPECIAL OLYMPICS AND THE MENTALLY DISABLED. BUT, BOY, SHE WAS LKING IN A WAY THAT EVERYBODY LISNED.

>> THE SMARTEST THING I READ ABOUT HER SAID SHE TOOKHE KENNEDY ETH-- WHICH WAS ABOUT MPETITION AND SPORTS AN TGHNESS-- AND SHE APPLIED I O A POPULATION WHERE PEOPLE D NOT PAID MUCHATTENTION AND HAD NOT DEMAND A LOT, AND SO SHE COMBINED THTOUGH WITNESS THE COMPASSION AND CREATED THE LEGACY. >>ehrer: THANK YOU, BOTH.

>> THANK YOU.

>> Lehrer: NOW, A COERSATION ABOUT THTALIBAN, THE INSURGENT FORCES THE U.S. A COALITION FORCES E FIGHTING IN AFGHANISTAN. JEFFREY BROWN HAS OUR STORY

>> Repter: AS THE WAR IN AFANISTAN HEATS UP, HOWUCH IS REALLY KNOWN ABOUTHE TALIBN, HOW THEY'VE BEEN ABLE TO TE CONTROL OF TERRITORYAND WHAT ARETHE PROSPES OF EGOTIATING WITH THEM? FOR TH WE TURN TO CHARLES SENNOTT, THE EXECUTIVE EDITORIAL EDITOR O GLOBALPOST. HE'COVERED THE TALIBAN FOR OVER 1 YEARSND RETUED FROM REPORTING TRIP TO PAKIST AND AFGHANISTAN. WELCOME.

>> THANK YOU SGROUN W ARE THE TALIBAN. THE QUEION THAT OFTEN ASK.

>> I THINK WE NEEDO KNOW THE LIBAN ARE STRONGERHAN WE REALIZE,ND I THINK THE OTHER THING NEED TO KNOWIS THE TALIBAN ARE TWO THINGS-- THEY'RE ACTUALLY MANY INGS-- BUT THERE ARE THE PAKISTI TALIBA, WHICH S REALLY BECOME A UNIQUE MOVEMENT THAT WAS PART OF THE TALIBAN THAT FRACTURED ON T KISTANI SIDE AND TOOK HOLIN THE PASPUN BELT ON T PKISTAN SIDE. AND THEN THERES THE TALAN WE KNOW THAT HELD POER IN 2001 WHEN THE U.S. CAME IN AFTER THE SEPTEMBER 11 ATTACKS AND COBBLED THAGOVERNMENT IN AFGHANISTAN. SO THE TALIBAN IN AGHANISTAN IS STILL VERY OSE IDEOLOGICALLY, THEOLOGICALLY, A MILITARILY TO AT ORIGINAL AFGHAN TALIBAN THAT WAS IN POWER IN KABUL. WE REALLY HAVE TWO DIFFERENT TALIBANS WITH SERAL DIFFERENT PERMUTATIONS.

>> IN AFGHANTAN, WHAT EXPLANATIN THE SUCCESS THAT THEY HAVE? IIT ALL ABOUT APONS AND FEAR? IS IT ABOUT PROVIDING SECURITY? IS IT-- WHAT EXPNATION IT?

>> I THINK IT'S AENSE OF PAIENCE AND TIME. ME FAVORS THE TALIBAN. WHEN THENITED STATESMILITARY WAS FOCUSING THE WAR IN IRAQ FOR SO MANY YEARS, THEALIBAN WAS QUIETLY REORGANIZING IN PAKISTAN, AND QUIETLY DOING THE WORK IN THESE VILLAGES TH ARE VERY REME, THAT ARE THERE IN THE SOUTH D EAST, AND IT W QUIETLY CONVINCG THIS POPULATION THAT THE TIBAN MOEMENT WILL BE THERE LONG AFTER THE U.S. GOVERNNT HAS LEFT. AND TT'S POSED BOTH AS SORT OF CULTURALFFINITY, BUT IT'S ALSO A REAT. AND 'RE SEEING THAT NOW WITH THELECTION, THAT THE TALIBAN IS CERTALY CAPABLE OF THREANING PEOPLE, AND THAT SENSE OF SORT OFHUGGERY, THE WANTING TO GET BACK IO POWER IS VERY MUCH A ELEMENT AS WELL.

>> Repoer: YOU ON YOUR REPORTING IP YOU MET WITH WAT YOU REFERRED TOS "MODERATE TALIBAN." THAT RAISES T QUESTION ABOUT ARE THERE DIVISIONS AMONG GRPS ERE? WHAEXACTLY IS A MODRATE? WHAT DO IT TELL YOUABOUT THE ROSPECTS OF REACHING OUT HAVING ACTL CONVERSATIONS?

>> PRESIDENT OBAMHAS CALLED FONEGOTIATIONS WITH THE DERATE TALIBAN. AND ONE OF TH QUESTIONS YOU HEAR OFT IN KABUL IS WT DOES THAT MEAN WHO ARE THE MODERATE TALIBAN? THE TALIBAN OFFICIA WHO WEMET WITH WERE THE FMER HEADS E NOW-DEPOSED GOVEMENT. THIS WAS, FOR EXAMPLE, T FORMER FOREIGN MNISTER OF THE TALIBAN. IT WAS THE PAKISTANI AMBASSADOR FOR T TALIB. WAS THE MINISTER OF HIGH EDUCATION. THE U.N. REESENTATIVES TO THE TALIBAN WHO WAS ACTUALLY IN NEW YORK AT THEIME OF PTEMBER 11. SO OF THEM HAVE SPENT SOME TIME IN GUANTANAMO. SO OF THEM WERE ON THE RUN, BU THEY HAVE REGROUPED AND NOW LIVE UNDER VARIOUS FORMS OF HOUSE ARREST INSIDE KABUL, IN AFGHANISTAN. WAS CHALLENGING TO GET TO THEM. D UNIQUE, AND REALLY AN EYE-OPENING EXPERNCE IN THE SENSE THAT YOU COULD HEAR TRALATE TALIBAN THEIR PERSPECTIVE ON WHERE THINGS ARE. AND HEARD A RANGE OF OPINION RANGING FM, FOR EXAMPLE, THE FORME FOREIGN MINISTER OF THE TABAN, VERY OPEN TO NEGOTIATIONS. HE REALLY BELIEVES THEY COULD HAPPEN, HAT THERE IS A STEADY MOENTUM TOWARD THEM THAT BEG IN SAUDI ARABIA EARLER THIS YEAR AND CONTINUES TODAYAND AFTER THE ECTION MAY ACTUALLY TAKE HOLD.

>> Reporte: NEGOTIATIONS WI THEFGHAN GOVERNMENT AND THE U.S?

>> THEY SEEHEMSELVES AS INTERMEADARIESETWEEN THE TIBAN MILITANT INSURGENT LEADERSHIP, AND THE AFGHAN GOVERNMENT, ANDN LOW AND UNOFFICIAL LEVEL, THE U.S. GOVNMENT HAS I PRESENCE IN AFGHANISTAN. Reporter: HOW SEIOUSLY DO YOU TAKE THAT. >>> I THI WHAT'S IMPORTANT TO KNOWBOUT AFGHANISTAN IS NEGOTIATIONS CAN HAPN AT ANY TIME. THIS A PLACE WHERE ONE SID WILL FLIP AGAINST THE OTHER. AND SUDDENLY IGN WITH ANOTHER. THAT'S HE HISTORY OF AFGHANISTAN.

>> Reporter: EVEN THOUGH EVERYTHING WE HEAR NO IS MORE ABT DIVISIVENESS AND SORTOF HARDENING OF POSITIONS D MORE MILITARY ACTION.

>> AND QUITE OFTEN, THE NEGOTIATIONS, THAT SENSE OF FLIPPING SIDES, CAN HAPPEN RIGHT AT A TIME WHEN BOTH SIDES FEEL HEAT WA STRENGTH AND THAT IS A MENT WE'RE IN RIGHT NOW. WE HEARD GENERAL McCHRYSTAL SAY HIMSELF TALIBAN IS WINNG IN MANY AREAS IN THE SOUTH AND EAST AND IT HA VERY INTERESTING, DEVELOP THE SOME INROADS INTO NORTH AND WST AS WELL. E U.S. MILITARY IS IN A STRONG POSITI AS WELL. THEY NOW HAVE THE 21,000-TROOP INCASE. THEY'RE ONHE OFFENSIVE. VERY OFTEN, IN GHANISTAN, IN MY YEARS OF REPORNG THERE THAT CAN OFT BE A TIME WEN PEOPLE SHIFT AN CHANGE AND PEOP BEN TO TALK. I'M NOT SAYING I THINK WE CAN GUANTEE THAT WILL HAPPEN, BUT ONE THINGABOUT AFGHANISTAN IS WHEN YOU BEGIN TO HARHE POSIBILITY OF NEGOTIATION, AS THE PRESIDENT HAS CLED FOR, I THINK IT'S WORTH PURSUING.

>> Reporter: I WAN TO ASK YOU ABOUT ONE STORY YOU'VE RORTED ON OVER THE YEARS THE STORY OF AN AMERICAN WOMAN, SALLY GOOICH, WHO HELPED BUILD SCHOOL.

>> SALLS STORY IS A GRT TORY BECAUSE IT'S A MICROSM OF WHERAFGHANISTAN IS TODAY. SALLYOST HER SON,ETER, ON SEPTEMBER 11, AND SHE DECE BUILD A SCHOOL IN HIS HONO IN AFHANISTAN. I WENTITH HER TO THE FIRST OPENG OF THE SCHOOL. WAS AEALLY BEAUFUL MOMENT AGIRLS' SCHOOL, TREMENDS CELEBRATION BY THIS VILLAGE. A REAL FEEL-GOOD STORYABOUT GHANISTAN. A FEW MONTHS AGO SALLY CALLED ME ANDAID SHE COULDN'TELIEVE IT THAT THE VIAGE ELDERLIES WHO HELPED HER BUILD THE SCHL HAD THIR HOM RAZED BY T U.S. MILITARY ANDEVERAL ARE IN DETENTION FOR SUPPORTINGHE TALAN. THE VILLAGE HAD FLIPPED. WHN I DID MY REPORTI I FOUND A VERCOMPLEX AND NUANCED SITUATION. I MET WITH THE VILLAGE LEADS, THOSE OF WHOM HAD BEEN RELEASE WHAT THEY SAID WAS, OKAY, WERE NOT TIBAN. BUT WHAT YOU COULD SORT OF GLEAN FROM THE MINISRY OF EDUCATION OFFICIALS, FROMHE PRINCIPAL, OM OTHERS, WAS A SENSE THAT TSE VILLAGE LEADERS DID I FACT ALLOW THEALIBAN INTO THAT VIAGE SO THEY COULD KEEP THE GIS' SCHOOL OPEN. THOSE VILLA ELDERSAD 16 OF THEIR OWN GIRLSIN THAT SCHOOL, AND THAT W THE DAL THEY WERE WILLING TO T. THE TRAGIC ENDING TO THAT DE WAS THAT THE U.S. MILITARY SAID, WELL, LOOK, THAT'S ALL WELL AND GOOD. UT THE TALIBAN I THAT VILLAGE HAVEILLED.S. SERVICE MEN AND WOMEN TH ROADSIDE BOMBS. SO, YOU OW, WE CAT-- WE CAN'T ALL THAT KIND OF DAL. SOHE VILLAGE ELDER, TWO OF THEM, MAIN IN CUSTODY. T THEN, JUST ABOUT A WEE AIARE LEFT, THE LLAGE ROAD INTO THE SOOL WAS BOMBED AND 15 SCHOOL CHDREN WERE KILED, CLUDING TWO GIRLS. AND THE SCHOOL WAS SEVELY DAMAGED. SOTHIS IS, TO ME A MICROCOSM OF JUST HOWOMPLICATED IT IS ON THE GROUND IN AFGHANISTAN. AND IF THE U.S. TROOPS E GOING TO SUCCEED INFGHANISTAN, IT'S GOING TREQUIRE THAT LEVEL OF UNDERSTANDING THE COMPLEXIES THAT EXIST ON THE GROUND.

>> Reporter: ALREADY, CHARLES SENNOTT FROM GLOBALPOS THANK YOU.

>> Lehrer: ONUR WEB SITE, newshour.pbs.org, WATCH AEB ONLY INTERVIEWITH CHARLES ENNOTT ON THE UNIQUE JOURNALM MOL THAT FUELS GLOBALPOST'S INTERNATIONAL NEWS RORTING.

>> Lehrer: FINALLY NIGHT, A VERY YOU JOURNALIST LANDS A MAJOR INTERVIEW. 11-YEAR-OLD DAMON WEAR OF PAHOKEIN SOUTH FLORIDA IS A REPORTER FOR HIS ELEMEARY HOOL'S TELEVISION STATION. DURING THE 2008 ELECTION,E INTERVIEWEDHEN-DEMOCRATIC VICE PRESINTIAL CANDIDATE JOE BIDEN. YESTERDAY AT THE WHITE HOUSEHE INTERVIEWED THE MAN WHO WAST THE TOP OTHE TICKET, NOW- PRESIDENT BACK OBAMA. HERE E SOME EXCERPTS.

>> ALL ACROSAMERICA, MONEY IS BEING CUT FROM EDUCATION. HOW CAN EDUCATION BE IMPROD WITH ALL THESEUTS?

>> WELL, WECTUALLY, HERE IN THE ADMINISTRATION, TRYING PUT MORE MONEY INTO SCHLS, AND THERE ARE A LOT OF SCHLS ALL ACROSS THE COUNTRY THAT A ETTING NEW BUILDINGS AND NEW FACILITIES. WE'REOW PUTTING MORE MONEY IN TRAINING GOOD TEACHERS AND GIVING THEM MORE SUORT, AND SO WE THINK IT'S IMPORTANT TPUT MORE MONEINTO THE SCHOOLS. T MONEY ALONE IS NOT GOING T MAKE THE DIFFERENCE. WE'VE ALSO GOTO IMPROVE HOW THECHOOLS ARE OPERATING, AND WE HAVE REALLBEEN TRYING TO FOCUS OHOW DO YOU FIND THE BEST SCHOOLSND FIGURE OUT WHAT IT IS THAT THEY'RE DOINWELL. D THEY'RE TRYING TO GET OTHE SCHOOLS THAT AREN'T DOING SO WELL TO THE SAME KINDS OF THINGS THAT THE SCHOOLS W ARE ING WELL ARE DOING. SO I HE THAT WE CAN REALLY SEE SOME IMPROVEMENT, NOT JUST TH MONEY, BUT ALSWITH REFORMING HOTHE SCHOOLS WORK.

>> I LIVE IN HOKEE, FLORIDA, ICH IS A KIND OF POOR TOWN. WHAT CAN BE DONE TO PROVE EDUCATION FOR STUDENTS THAT VE IN TOWNS LIKE NE? > WELL, UNFORTUNATELY, A LOTF TIMES, IF YOU'VE T A COMMUNITY THAT IS LOR INCOME, THEY DON'T HAVE AS MUCH NEY IN THEIR SCHOS. A LOT OF TH IS STATE FUNDING, AND I WANT TO SEE STES BE MORE FAIR IN TERMOF HOW THEY GIVE NEY TO VARIOUS SCHOOLS AROUN THEIR COMMUNITIE BUT I DO THINK IS IMPORTANT TO KE SURE THAT WE CAN FIND HEL FROM THE FEDERAL GOVERNMT, FROM HERE IN WAINGTON, D.C., FOR THOSE SCHOOLTHAT NEED THE MO HELP. THERE ARE CERTAIN PROGMS, LIKE DROPOUT PREVENTIOPROGRAMS, FOR EXAMPLE, THAT LOCAL SCHOO DISTRICTS MIGHT NOT BE ABLE AFFORD, BUT MAYBE WE CAN MA SURE TT THE FEDERAL GOVERNMENT IS GIVING HELP TO THOSE LOL DISTRICTS STHEY CAN IMPROVE EIR EDUCATIONAL SYSTEM.

>> DO YOU HAVE THE POW TO MAKE THE SCHO LUNCHES BETTER?

>> WELL, I REMEMBER AT, WHEN I USED TO GET HOOL LUNCHES, THEY DIDN'T TASTE SO GOO I GOT TO ADMIT. WE ARE SEEING IF WE CANORK TO AT LEAST MAKE SCHOOL LUNES HEALTHIER, BEUSE A LOT OF SCHOOL LUNCHES, THERE'S A LOOF FRENCH FRIES, PIZZA, TATETOTS,NN ALL KINDS OF STUFF THAT N'T A WELL-BALAND MEAL. SO WE WANT TO MAKE SURE THE ARE MORE FRUITS D VEGETABLES IN T SCHOOLS. NOW, KIDS MAY NOT END UP LING THAT, BUIT'S BETTER FOR THEM, IT'LL BE HEALTHIER FOR TH, AND THOSE ARE SOME OF THE CNGES WE'RE TRNG TO MAKE. >I SUGGEST THAT WE HAVE FRENC FRIES AND MANGOES ERY DAY FOR LUNCH.

>> I NOTICE, AS PRESIDENT,OU GET BULLI A LOT. HOW DO YOU HDLE IT?

>> YOU MEAN PEOPLE SAMEAN THGS ABOUT ME? I THINK TH, WHEN YOU'RE PRESIDENT, YOU'RRESPONSIBLE FOR AOT OF THINGS, AND PEOPLE ARE HAVING A TOUGH ME, THEY'RE HURTING OUT THE, AND THE MAIN ING I TRY TO DO IS JUST STAY FOCUSED ON TRYING TO DO A GD JOB AND TRY TO BE DERSTANDING TH SOMETIMES PEOPLE ARE GOING TO BE MAD ABOUT THGS. BUT IF I'MOING A GOOD JOB, I'M DOING BEST, I'M HELPING PEOPLE. THAT KEEPS ME GOING.

>> WE YOU EVER BULLIED IN SCHOOL?

>> YOU OW, I WASN'T BULLIED TOO MUCH IN SCHOOL. WAS PRETTY BIG FOR MY AGE, T OBVISLY, IT'S A TERRIBLE THING AND I HOPE ALYOUNG PEOPLE OUT THERE UNDERSTAND TH THEY SHOULD TREAT EACH OTHER WH RESPECT.

>> WHEN I INTERVIEWED VIC ESIDENT JOE BIDEN, HE BECAM MY HOMEBOY. WOULD YOU LIKE BECOME MY HOMEBO

>> ABSOLUTELY. THA YOU, MAN. GREAT JOB.

>> Lehr: AGAIN, THE MAJOR DEVELOPMENTS OF THE DAY: A CLOSELY WATCHED SURVEYOUND CONSUMESENTIMENT FELL FOR THE SECOND MONTH IN A ROW. ITAISED NEW DOUBTS ABOUT PROSPECTS FOR A RECOVY. PRESIDENT OBAMA CHAED NEWS COVERAGE HAS CUSED TOO MUCH ON ANGRY PRESTS AT TOWN HALL MEETINGS ON HEALTH CARE. AND LYNETTE "SQUEA" FROMME WAS RELEASED FROM PRISON,4 YEARS AFTER SHE TRIEDO KILL PRESIDENT FORD. ONnewshour.pbs.org, AN ONLINE- ONLY FEATURE TONIT-- ON "ART BEAT, JEFFREY BROWN TALKS TO PULITZER-PRIZE WINNING AUTHO RICHARD RUSSO ABOUT HIS LATT NOVEL, HAT OLD CAPE MAGIC." IT TELLS THE SRY OF MIDDLE- AGED ENGLH PROFESSOR JACK IFFIN. HERS AN EXCERPT FROM THE CONVERSATION. JACK IS BEGINNING TO HAR HIS MOER TALKING TO HIMVEN WHEN HE'S NOT AND I THINK IS THE METAPHOR R WHAT HAPPENS TO ALL OF US. EVEN WHEN OU- WE THINK OF OUR PARENTS WHE OUR-- WHEN OUR PARENTS DIE, WE THINK TT THINGS ARE GOING TO CHANGE THAT THAT PARTICUL CONVERSATION HAS ENDED, AND IN FACT IT IS PROBABLY JUST BENNING.

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