PBS NewsHour; March 16, 2015 6:00pm-7:01pm PDT

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>> Ifill: FIGHTING FOR HIS POLITICAL FUTURE, ISRAELI PRIME MINISTER NETANYAHU PLEDGES, IF HE'S RE-ELECTED, THERE WILL BE NO PALESTINIAN STATE, JUST HOURS BEFORE VOTERS CAST THEIR BALLOTS. GOOD EVENING, I'M GWEN IFILL.

>> Woodruff: AND I'M JUDY WOODRUFF. ALSO AHEAD THIS MONDAY: PROSPECTS FOR PEACE IN SYRIA, AS PRESIDENT ASSAD REJECTS A CALL FOR TALKS TO END THE WAR TORN NATION'S BLOODY CONFLICT.

>> Ifill: PLUS...

>> YOU DON'T REALLY GET TO LIVE A GOOD LIFE ON THE INCOME OF A HOME CARE WORKER.

>> Ifill: ...THE WORKERS STRUGGLING TO KEEP HOME HEALTH CARE AFFORDABLE FOR ELDERLY AMERICANS.

>> SOMEONE HAS TO PAY FOR IT. AND WHAT HAPPENS WHEN THEY CAN'T AFFORD IT. I THINK THAT'S OUR WORRY IS WHEN CLIENTS CAN'T AFFORD HOME CARE ANY MORE.

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>> Woodruff: WALL STREET GOT ITS WEEK OFF TO A RUNNING START TODAY, AFTER LAST WEEK'S LOSSES. STOCKS ROSE IN PART AS THE VALUE OF THE DOLLAR EASED SOME FROM A RALLY THAT'S MADE AMERICAN GOODS PRICIER OVERSEAS. THE DOW JONES INDUSTRIAL AVERAGE GAINED NEARLY 230 POINTS TO CLOSE BACK NEAR 18,000. THE NASDAQ ROSE NEARLY 60 POINTS, AND THE S&P 500 ADDED ALMOST 30.

>> Ifill: COMPETING NEW ESTIMATES SURFACED TODAY ON EXACTLY HOW MANY AMERICANS HAVE GOTTEN HEALTH CARE COVERAGE SINCE THE AFFORDABLE CARE ACT BECAME LAW. THE DEPARTMENT OF HEALTH AND HUMAN SERVICES ESTIMATED THE FIGURE AT MORE THAN 16 MILLION. THAT'S BASED PARTLY ON THE GALLUP-HEALTHWAYS WELL-BEING INDEX. OFFICIALS AT GALLUP AGREED COVERAGE HAS GONE UP, BUT THEY PUT THE INCREASE AT 9.7 MILLION.

>> Woodruff: THE UNITED STATES AND IRAN HAVE SPENT ANOTHER FIVE HOURS IN NUCLEAR TALKS, WITH AN END-OF-THE-MONTH DEADLINE BEARING DOWN. SECRETARY OF STATE JOHN KERRY MET TODAY WITH IRAN'S FOREIGN MINISTER MOHAMMAD JAVAD ZARIF IN LAUSANNE, SWITZERLAND. THERE WAS WORD THE IRANIANS ASKED ABOUT A SENATE REPUBLICAN LETTER THAT WARNED PRESIDENT OBAMA'S SUCCESSOR COULD REVOKE ANY DEAL. THE IRANIAN DELEGATION ALSO MET WITH EUROPEAN MINISTERS, IN BRUSSELS.

>> ( translated ): WE HOPE FOR AN AGREEMENT, BUT ONLY IF THE AGREEMENT IS VERY SOLID. THERE HAS BEEN PROGRESS BUT IMPORTANT POINTS REMAIN WHICH ARE NOT RESOLVED AND WE WILL SEE IF WE CAN MAKE PROGRESS.

>> Woodruff: AFTERWARD, THERE WAS WORD THAT THE SESSION IN BRUSSELS FAILED TO BRIDGE ANY DIFFERENCES.

>> Ifill: IN IRAQ, A GOVERNMENT OFFENSIVE AGAINST ISLAMIC STATE FIGHTERS IN TIKRIT WAS PUT ON HOLD TODAY. THE IRAQI MILITARY AND SHIITE MILITIAS HAVE ALREADY MADE BIG GAINS. BUT THE INTERIOR MINISTER SAID THEY EXPECT BITTER FIGHTING AHEAD.

>> ( translated ): MORE THAN 90% OF OUR OBJECTIVES ARE GOING ACCORDING TO PLANS AND TIMINGS. WHAT HAS REMAINED IS A VERY SMALL PART WHICH IS THE CENTER OF TIKRIT. THE MILITANTS PLANTED BOMBS IN GOVERNMENT OFFICES AND BUILDINGS. BY HALTING MILITARY OPERATIONS, WE ALSO AIM TO GIVE AN OPPORTUNITY TO CIVILIANS AND FAMILIES TO GET AWAY FROM THE BATTLEFIELD.

>> Ifill: TIKRIT IS SADDAM HUSSEIN'S HOME, AND HIS ONCE- LAVISH TOMB HAS BEEN WRECKED BY THE FIGHTING. WHAT'S LEFT ARE MOSTLY PILES OF CONCRETE RUBBLE.

>> Woodruff: RUSSIAN PRESIDENT VLADIMIR PUTIN RESURFACED TODAY, AFTER 10 DAYS OUT OF PUBLIC VIEW. THE UNEXPLAINED ABSENCE HAD FUELED MEDIA RUMORS ABOUT HIS HEALTH. PUTIN DISMISSED THOSE CONCERNS AS HE MET WITH THE PRESIDENT OF KYRGYZSTAN IN ST. PETERSBURG, RUSSIA. HE QUIPPED TO REPORTERS: "IT WOULD BE DULL WITHOUT GOSSIP". ALSO TODAY, THE RUSSIAN MILITARY LAUNCHED EXERCISES ACROSS THE COUNTRY. IN THE ARCTIC ALONE, 40,000 TROOPS WERE INVOLVED.

>> Ifill: OFFICIALS IN VANUATU LABORED TODAY TO ASSESS THE SCOPE OF DEVASTATION FROM A POWERFUL WEEKEND STORM. "CYCLONE PAM" BLASTED THE SOUTH PACIFIC ISLAND CHAIN WITH WINDS OF 185 MILES PER HOUR. IT KILLED AT LEAST 24 PEOPLE AND LEFT 3,300 HOMELESS. LUCY WATSON OF INDEPENDENT TELEVISION NEWS REPORTS FROM THE SCENE.

>> Reporter: THE OUTLYING ISLANDS, LITTLE IS KNOWN ABOUT IN THIS DISASTER. THOSE WITH NO PROTECTION FROM THE STRONG WINDS ARE STRUGGLING. THEY'VE LOST SHELTER AND CONTACT.

>> THIS CYCLONE WE'VE NEVER HAD BEFORE.

>> Reporter: JOE EXPLAINED THE DIFFICULTIES FACING HIS VILLAGE.

>> WE RELY ON FUJI FOR FOOD. THE WIND HAS TORN IT DOWN.

>> Reporter: WE MET MARIA, EIGHT AND A HALF MONTHS PREGNANT. SHE'S WORRIED ABOUT HER UNBORN CHILD BECAUSE THE ISLAND HAS RUN OUT OF MEDICINE AND IT TAKES TOO LONG TO REACH THE NEAREST HOSPITAL. THERE ARE 65 INHABITED ISLANDS IN THIS AREA, FEW HAVE BEEN VISITED. THIS ARE THE SIGHTS AND SOUNDS MANY ARE WAITING FOR. AID IS COMING TO SOME WHOSE LIVES AND LIVELIHOODS HAVE BEEN TORN APART BY "CYCLONE PAM. THE RED EYES OF ROSE, SINGLE MOTHER OF FOUR TELL HER TALE. AS THE CYCLONE RAGED, SHE SAID, I CONVINCED MYSELF I WAS ALREADY DEAD. I'VE LOST MY HOME. LOOKING AT IT, I DON'T KNOW HOW TO MOVE ON. MY LIFE IS OVER. THIS WAS ONE OF 1,000 HOMES IN THIS VILLAGE COMPLETELY FLATTENED. THE COMMUNITY, THOUGH HAS ALREADY STARTED TO REBUILD WITH WHATEVER MATERIALS THEY CAN FIND, TESTAMENT TO THE RESILIENCE OF THE PEOPLE OF VANUATU. THIS PLACE IS MORE EXPOSED TO NATURAL DISASTER THAN NINE WHERE ELSE IN THE WORLD. ITS PEOPLE ARE STILL LEARNING HOW TO PROTECT WHAT THEY LOVE.

>> Ifill: VANUATU HAS 270,000 PEOPLE, SCATTERED ACROSS MORE THAN 60 ISLANDS.

>> Woodruff: BACK IN THIS COUNTRY, THE MAN ACCUSED OF SHOOTING AND WOUNDING TWO POLICE OFFICERS IN FERGUSON, MISSOURI, LAST WEEK APPEARED IN COURT TODAY FOR THE FIRST TIME. JEFFERY WILLIAMS DID NOT MAKE A STATEMENT OR ENTER A PLEA. THE PROSECUTOR SAID WILLIAMS ADMITTED TO THE SHOOTINGS, BUT TOLD INVESTIGATORS HE'D BEEN AIMING AT SOMEONE ELSE.

>> Ifill: BOSTON HAS FINALLY SET A DUBIOUS NEW RECORD: MOST SNOW IN A SINGLE WINTER. THE CITY GOT NEARLY THREE MORE INCHES ON SUNDAY, PUSHING THE SEASONAL TOTAL TO 108.6 INCHES. THAT'S MORE THAN NINE FEET OF SNOW, AND THE MOST SINCE BOSTON BEGAN KEEPING RECORDS IN 1872.

>> Woodruff: AND, CURTIS GANS, A LONG-TIME EXPERT ON VOTER TURNOUT IN THE U.S., DIED LAST NIGHT. HE'D BEEN HOSPITALIZED IN FREDERICK, MARYLAND. GANS' "CENTER FOR THE STUDY OF THE AMERICAN ELECTORATE" WAS WIDELY RECOGNIZED FOR HIS TURNOUT DATA AND ANALYSIS. HE ALSO LED OPPOSITION TO A SECOND TERM FOR PRESIDENT LYNDON JOHNSON, OVER THE VIETNAM WAR IN 1968. JOHNSON OPTED NOT TO RUN AGAIN. STILL TO COME ON THE NEWSHOUR: THE FINAL PUSH BEFORE ISRAELIS VOTE FOR THEIR NEXT GOVERNMENT. PROSPECTS FOR PEACE IN SYRIA AS THE NATION'S CIVIL WAR ENTERS A FIFTH YEAR. KEEPING HOME HEALTH CARE AFFORDABLE WHILE PAYING WORKERS BETTER WAGES. THE WEEK AHEAD IN POLITICS WITH AMY WALTER AND TAMARA KEITH. AND, PULL OUT YOUR BRACKETS-- WE LOOK AT THIS YEAR'S MARCH MADNESS.

>> Ifill: ISRAELI PRIME MINISTER BENJAMIN NETANYAHU IS IN THE FINAL THROES OF A POLITICAL FIGHT, AS HE FADES IN THE POLLS, AHEAD OF TOMORROW'S ELECTION. LATE THIS AFTERNOON, IN AN ATTEMPT TO SECURE MORE RIGHT WING VOTES, HE ANNOUNCED THAT THERE WILL BE NO PALESTINIAN STATE IF HE'S RE-ELECTED. NEWSHOUR SPECIAL CORRESPONDENT MARTIN SEEMUNGAL REPORTS FROM ISRAEL.

>> Reporter: ISRAELI PRIME MINISTER BENJAMIN NETANYAHU TAKING HIS CAMPAIGN TO THE JEWISH SETTLEMENT OF HAR HOMA THE HEART OF RIGHT WING TERRITORY. NETANYAHU NEEDS THEM TO VOTE LIKUD, WARNING SETTLERS ABOUT THE DANGERS OF A CENTER-LEFT GOVERNMENT LED BY ISAAC HERZOG AND TZIPI LIVNI.

>> ( translated ): THE TRUTH IS SIMPLE: IF TZIPI AND BOUGIE FORM THE NEXT GOVERNMENT HERE ON THESE HILLS, WE WILL HAVE A SECOND HAMASTAN. WE PREVENTED IT, WE PREVENT IT. WE DEVELOP HERE GREAT NEIGHBORHOODS FOR TENS OF THOUSANDS OF ISRAELIS. WE ARE COMMITED TO IT.

>> Reporter: IN AN INTERVIEW LATER IN THE DAY, NETANYAHU STATED PLAINLY THAT IF HE IS RE- ELECTED THERE WOULD BE NO PALESTINIAN STATE-- A REVERSAL OF HIS SUPPORT FOR "2 STATES FOR 2 PEOPLES." IT IS A SIGNIFICANT TURNAROUND, A CLEAR SIGN THAT NETANYAHU KNOWS HE IS FIGHTING FOR HIS POLITICAL SURVIVAL. AMOS HAREL IS A COLUMNIST FOR ISRAELS HAARETZ NEWSPAPER.

>> NETANYAHU IS MUCH MORE ACTIVE THAN WE ARE USED TO-- FOR INSTANCE HE AVOIDED ANY KINDS OF INTERVIEW WITH ISRAELI MEDIA FOR YEARS AND THE LAST TWO WEEKS HE'S BEEN INTERVIEWED EVERYWHERE INCLUDING LOCAL RADIO STATIONS. HE'S CALLING EVERYBODY TO GO AND VOTE HE'S GOING BACK TO HIS BASE THE RIGHT WING VOTERS AND HOPING THAT THE POLLS THAT SHOW ZIONIST CAMP LEADING ARE GOING TO HELP HIM BECAUSE IT'S A PANIC ATTACK OR A CALL TO ARMS FOR THE LIKUDNIKS-- THE OLD VOTERS OF LIKUD.

>> Reporter: WHEN THE ELECTION WAS ANNOUNCED BACK IN DECEMBER, FEW BELIEVED MUCH WOULD CHANGE. EVERYONE FELT BIBI NETANYAHU WOULD BE REELECTED. BUT IT HAS CHANGED. ON THE EVE OF THE LAST ELECTION YOU COULD WALK INTO A MARKET LIKE THIS IN TEL AVIV AND PRETTY MUCH EVERYONE WOULD BE VOTING FOR BENJAMIN NETANYAHU. IT'S A LIKUD STRONGHOLD. LIKUD STILL HAS A GREAT DEAL OF SUPPORT HERE BUT ITS NOT LIKE IT WAS BEFORE. RUTH MOSES VOTED FOR NETANYAHU THE LAST ELECTION, BUT THIS TIME?

>> I HOPE NOT NETANYAHU, I HOPE NOT NETANYAHU. BECAUSE HE DON'T DO NOTHING FOR THE PEOPLE HE ONLY DO FOR HIMSELF. HE LIKE TO LIVE IN LUXURY.

>> WHO DID YOU VOTE FOR THE LAST TIME?

>> THE RIGHT.

>> SO YOU VOTED FOR LIKUD LAST TIME?

>> RIGHT.

>> AND THIS TIME?

>> I'M NOT SURE.

>> Reporter: YACHIL DELOYA HAS ALWAYS VOTED LIKUD, ALWAYS SUPPORTED NETANYAHU AND SAYS HE WILL AGAIN-BUT HE'S WORRIED. ARE YOU AFRAID HE MIGHT LOSE THIS TIME?

>> YES I AM AFRAID LITTLE BIT BECAUSE IT'S A TIME THAT YOU FEEL LIKE HE MIGHT LOSE. BUT WE HOPE FOR GOOD NEWS.

>> Reporter: THE VOICES AGAINST NETANYAHU ARE GROWING INCREASINGLY LOUD. 200 FORMER TOP RANKING MILITARY AND SECURITY OFFICIALS MADE A VERY PUBLIC STATEMENT, DENOUNCING HIM. FORMER GENERAL ASHER LEVY IS ONE OF THEM.

>> WE ARE NOT LEFTISTS. WE THINK THAT HE IS DAMAGING OUR SECURITY SITUATION AND BECAUSE OF THAT WE THINK HE SHOULD BE CHANGED. WE ARE NOT TELLING ANYONE WHO TO VOTE FOR BUT WE ARE DEFINITELY AGAINST BIBI NETANYAHU WE THINK HE SHOULD BE CHANGED.

>> Reporter: HERZOG FACED NETANYAHU IN A TV DEBATE ON SATURDAY. HERZOG'S LACK OF SECURITY CREDENTIALS HAS LED TO A CARICATURE HERE THAT HE IS WEAK BUT HE LAUNCHED A VERY STRONG ATTACK.

>> ( translated ): THE INTERNATIONAL COMMUNITY KNOWS THAT YOU ARE WEAK HE SAID, AND DOES NOT ACCEPT YOUR POSITION.

>> Reporter: IT IS ESTIMATED THAT AT LEAST 10% OF ISRAELIS HAVE YET TO DECIDE AND IN A CLOSE RACE LIKE THIS THOSE VOTES ARE CRITICAL. CAMPAIGNING WILL CONTINUE UNTIL THE POLLS CLOSE TOMORROW NIGHT. FOR THE NEWSHOUR, I'M MARTIN SEEMUNGAL IN TEL AVIV.

>> Ifill: I SPOKE TO MARTIN SEEMUNGAL A SHORT TIME AGO. MARSEN, THANK YOU FOR JOINS. THE BIG NEWS TOORKSD BIBI'S STATEMENT ABOUT CHANGING HIS MIND OR WHATEVER ON THE TWO-STATE SOLUTION SAYING IF HE WERE REELECTED HE WOULD NOT SUPPORT IT. HOW BIG A SWITCH THIS FOR HIM ESPECIALLY SINCE 2009 WHEN HE GAVE THE BIG SPEECH SAYING HE WAS FOR IT?

>> IT'S A VERY BIG SWITCH. HE GAVE THAT SPEECH AT THE UNIVERSITY AND EVERYONE WAS TOUTING THIS AS A VERY SIGNIFICANT MOMENT. ACTUALLY A LIKUD LEADER AND ISRAELI PRIME MINISTER COMING OUT AND COMMITTING HIMSELF OPENLY ESPECIALLY BENJAMIN NETANYAHU WHO'D BEEN SEEN AS SUCH A HARD LINER SAYING HE BELIEVES IN A TWO-STATE SOLUTION, TWO STATES FOR TWO PEOPLE'S. OBVIOUSLY, OVER THE LAST SIX YEARS, HE'S NOT MOVED MUCH ON THAT FRONT. HIS CRITICS HAVE BEEN SAYING EVEN THOUGH HE SAID THAT QUOTING THAT SPEECH H HE'S NEVER DONE MUCH TO DELIVER. NEGOTIATIONS HAVE BEEN OFF AND ON AND MOSTLY OFF. PEOPLE SAY HE'S PAID LIP SERVICE TO THAT STATEMENT AND BECAUSE OF THAT THE PALESTINIANS HAVE BROKEN OFF NEGOTIATIONS. THEY HAVE BEEN FROZEN FOR SO LONG, THE AMERICANS HAVE BEEN TRYING TO GET NETANYAHU TO COMMIT TO GO TO THE TABLE, BRING THE PALESTINIANS ALONG AS WELL OBVIOUSLY. BUT THE KEY IS THAT THIS STATEMENT, IT'S NO COINCIDENCE IT'S COMING OUT ON THE EVE OF THIS ELECTION BECAUSE, BASICALLY, HE'S MAKING A STATEMENT TO THE RIGHT WING THAT HE -- IF THERE WAS ANY DOUBT AS TO WHERE HE STANDS, HE IS STANDING WITH THEM AND THAT IS THERE WILL BE NO PALESTINIAN STATE.

>> Ifill: HOW MUCH IS THIS, SURPRISINGLY FOR US, WE HAVE BEEN WATCH IS IT, HOW MUCH OF IT IS DRIVEN BY DOMESTIC AND HOW MUCH BY INTERNATIONAL CONCERNS AS WE'VE SEEN IN PAST ISRAELI ELECTIONS?

>> WELL IT'S A BIT OF BOTH IN ONE SENSE BECAUSE, CENTURIES BASTECALLY, THE THE WAY YOU LOOK AT IT IS NETANYAHU HAS BEEN PUSHING THE INTERNATIONAL THREAT, THE FACT THAT IRAN IS THIS EXISTENTIAL THREAT TO ISRAEL AND ONLY HE CAN DEFEND THE COUNTRY AND, OF COURSE MANY PEOPLE ESPECIALLY IN THE RIGHT WING SEE MR. BENJAMIN NETANYAHU AS THE SECURITY SO THAT IS THE CARD HE PLAYS THE INTERNATIONAL CARD. UNDERNEATH ALL THAT, ARE ISRAELIS WHO SAY, YES, WE BELIEVE HE'S A STRONG PRIME MINISTER BUT, ON THE OTHER HAND, YOU KNOW, WE DON'T REALLY WANT TO TALK ABOUT AT THAT TIME. THE POLLS SHOW -- WE DON'T REALLY WANT TO TALK ABOUT THAT. THE POLLS SHOW, AS FAR AS ISRAELIS ARE CONCERNED, THEY'RE NOT REALLY THAT CONCERNED ABOUT SECURITY. SO WHAT THEY'RE REALLY CONCERNED ABOUT ARE THE DOMESTIC ISSUES THE FACT THAT HOUSING PRICES ARE SKY HIGH, THE FACT THAT THE COST OF LIVING IS SO EXPENSIVE FOR ISRAELIS, THAT'S THE THING THAT YOU HEAR PEOPLE WANT TO TALK ABOUT, BUT THAT REALLY HASN'T EVOLVED IN THE ELECTION CAMPAIGN AND IN THE DEBATE. SO AS A RESULT, A LOT OF PEOPLE ARE SAYING THAT BENJAMIN NETANYAHU HAS MADE A MISTAKE IN NOT ADDRESSING THOSE CONCERNS AND THAT'S WHY HE'S BEEN DIPPING IN THE POLLS.

>> Ifill: YITZHAK HERZOG HAS BEEN RUNNING IN TANDEM WITH LIVNI, THEY WORKED OUT A DEAL WHERE THEY WILL BE ROTATING AND THAT WILL NOT HAPPEN NOW. HOW MUCH IS ABOUT POST-ELECTIONING POSITIONING?

>> WELL, IT'S ALL ABOUT THAT BECAUSE MANY I'M PEOPLE ARE SAYING HERZOG IS WEAK AND NOT CHARISMATIC AND THEY BROUGHT IN TZIPI LIVNI BECAUSE SHE HAS RIGHT WING CREDENTIALS, SEEN AS CENTER RIGHT ALMOST. THE FACT SHE'S NOW WITHDRAWING AT SOME POINT, SOME PEOPLE SAY IT'S A BIT LATE TO BE DOING THAT, IT COULD HARM THEM BURKS THEY'RE CALCULATING THAT THEY WANT TO SELL THEMSELVES AS ONE PARTY.

>> Ifill: GOING TO BE A FASCINATING OUTCOME TO WATCH, MARTIN SEEMUNGAL FOR US IN TEL AVIV TONIGHT, THANK YOU.

>> Woodruff: ON ISRAEL'S BORDER, A MORBID ANNIVERSARY PASSES THIS WEEK FOR A RAGING WAR WHICH HAS CLAIMED MORE THAN 200,000 LIVES AND HAS LEFT MILLIONS HOMELESS. FOUR YEARS IN, AND THERE'S NO END IN SIGHT TO THE KILLING IN SYRIA. JUST TODAY, NEW GOVERNMENT AIR STRIKES HIT A SUBURB OF DAMASCUS. AND, SYRIAN PRESIDENT BASHAR AL- ASSAD INSISTED AGAIN HE'S STAYING, UNTIL HIS OWN COUNTRYMEN DECIDE OTHERWISE.

>> ( translated ): WHETHER THEY SAY I REMAIN OR NOT, THE SYRIAN PEOPLE HAVE THE FINAL SAY ON THIS PARTICULAR MATTER. ANYTHING THAT CAME FROM OUTSIDE THE BORDERS WAS ONLY WORDS AND INTERFERENCE THAT DISAPPEARS AFTER A WHILE.

>> Woodruff: THAT LAST WAS AIMED AT SECRETARY OF STATE JOHN KERRY. SUNDAY, ON CBS, HE SUGGESTED ANY EFFORT TOWARD A TRANSITION IN SYRIA WOULD INCLUDE ASSAD, AFTER ALL.

>> I AM CONVINCED THAT, WITH THE EFFORTS OF OUR ALLIES AND OTHERS, THERE WILL BE INCREASED PRESSURE ON ASSAD.

>> AND YOU'RE WILLING TO NEGOTIATE WITH HIM?

>> WE HAVE TO NEGOTIATE IN THE END.

>> Woodruff: KERRY'S WORDS RAISED EYEBROWS, BUT U.S. OFFICIALS QUICKLY INSISTED PRESIDENT OBAMA'S POLICY HAS NOT CHANGED FROM THIS, IN 2012.

>> PRESIDENT AL-ASSAD HAS LOST LEGITIMACY, THAT HE NEEDS TO STEP DOWN.

>> Woodruff: THE PUSH TO OUST ASSAD BEGAN AS PEACEFUL PROTESTS IN MARCH 2011, AMID THE ARAB SPRING. BUT THE REGIME LAUNCHED A BRUTAL CRACKDOWN AGAINST DEMONSTRATORS THAT, IN TURN, TRIGGERED A VIOLENT UPRISING ACROSS THE COUNTRY. MODERATE REBELS INITIALLY MADE SOME HEADWAY BUT WERE HURT BY INTERNAL DIVISIONS AND A LACK OF WESTERN SUPPORT, AND THE INTRUSION OF EXTREMIST GROUPS LIKE THE AL-NUSRA FRONT. AT THE SAME TIME, IRAN AND RUSSIA BOLSTERED DAMASCUS WITH WEAPONS, MONEY AND EXPERTISE. AND, IRAN'S LEBANESE ALLY, HEZBOLLAH, SENT THOUSANDS OF FIGHTERS INTO SYRIA. THEN, ADDING TO THE CHAOS, THE ISLAMIC STATE GROUP SEIZED LARGE SECTIONS OF NORTHERN SYRIA LAST SUMMER. OUTSIDE THE WHITE HOUSE YESTERDAY, HUNDREDS OF EXPATRIATE SYRIANS, AND SYRIAN- AMERICANS, APPEALED FOR NEW ACTION...

>> WE NEED TO TREAT THE ROOT CAUSE OF EXTREMISM AND TERRORISM IN THE AREA, WHICH IS DICTATORSHIP AND ASSAD REGIME ITSELF.

>> Woodruff: BUT TWO ROUNDS OF PEACE TALKS HAVE ALREADY FAILED AND MANY OF THE PROTESTERS SAY IT'S CRUSHING TO WATCH, HELPLESSLY.

>> I ALWAYS FEEL LIKE 'I HOPE IT'S A DREAM, I HOPE IT'S A DREAM.' BUT-- AND I'M AFRAID TO EVEN COME AND CONNECT WITH THE PEOPLE BECAUSE I DON'T WANT TO SEE IT, I DON'T WANT TO THINK ABOUT ITS REALITY. BUT UNFORTUNATELY, IT'S A REALITY.

>> Woodruff: AND FOR NOW, THE REALITY IS THAT MUCH OF SYRIA HAS BEEN BLASTED TO RUINS, AS THE WAR ENTERS ITS FIFTH YEAR.

>> Woodruff: SO, WHEN, IF EVER, WILL THIS CONFLICT FINALLY END? AND HOW IT WILL HAPPEN? WE HEAR FROM FORMER U.S. AMBASSADOR TO SYRIA, AND CURRENT SENIOR FELLOW AT THE MIDDLE EAST INSTITUTE, ROBERT FORD. HISHAM MELHEM, WASHINGTON BUREAU CHIEF FOR THE AL-ARABIYA NEWS CHANNEL. AND AN INDIVIDUAL WHO HAS HAD EXTENSIVE EXPERIENCE WORKING WITH THE SYRIAN OPPOSITION, STEVE HEYDEMANN. HE'S A VICE PRESIDENT AT THE UNITED STATES INSTITUTE OF PEACE.

>> Reporter: WELCOME ALL OF YOU TO THE "NewsHour". ROBERT FORD TO YOU FIRST, WHERE DOES THIS CONFLICT STAND TODAY? DOES EITHER SIDE OR ANY SIDE HAVE THE UPPER HAND?

>> IT'S A LONG, GRUELING WAR OF ATTRITION. IRAN IS SENDING IN MORE FORCES. IRAN IS SENDING IN MORE ARMS. THE OPPOSITION IS RECEIVING HELP FROM OTHER OUTSIDE STATES AND THE WAR JUST GRINDS ON. I DON'T SEE ANY END IN SIGHT, AT LEAST IN THE NEAR TERM.

>> Woodruff: HISHAM MELHEM, DO YOU AGREE?

>> ABSOLUTELY. THIS COULD GRIND ON FOR A NUMBER OF YEARS SHORT OF A DECISIVE MOVE ON THE PART OF THE UNITED STATES AND REGIONAL ALLIES. THIS COULD LAST A LONG TIME PRECISELY BECAUSE YOU DON'T HAVE TO OPPOSING SIDES AS IN THE AMERICAN CIVIL WAR OR SPANISH CIVIL WAR IN THE 20th CENTURY. THIS IS BECOMING ALMOST A WAR OF ALL AGAINST ALL AS THOMAS HOBBS USED TO SAY, AND THAT IS WHY IT'S EXTREMELY DIFFICULT TO ALLOW IT TO CONTINUE LIKE THAT BECAUSE THIS IS GOING TO TOUCH THE WHOLE REGION, WHAT HAPPENS IN SYRIA IS NOT GOING TO STATE IN SYRIA. SYRIA IS CLOSE TO SOUTHERN EUROPE AND SYRIA IS NOT AFGHANISTAN. THE FIVE COUNTRIES AROUND SYRIA, ALL OF THEM ARE FRIENDLY TO THE UNITED STATES AND ALL OF THEM ARE PAYING A TREMENDOUS PRICE.

>> Woodruff: STEVE HEYDEMANN WHAT'S YOUR ASSESSMENT?

>> I TEND TO SHARE THE VIEW WE ARE LOCKED INTO A WAR OF ATTRITION. I THINK WE DO HAVE OPPORTUNITIES TO TRY TO SHORTEN THIS CONFLICT THROUGH MUCH MORE PROACTIVE DIPLOMATIC EFFORTS, IN PARTICULAR ON THE PART OF THE UNITED STATES, AND I THINK WE HAVE TO RECOGNIZE THAT IN THE ABSENCE OF THOSE RECORDS WE ARE LIKELY TO SEE THE CONFLICT UNFOLD FOR MANY, MANY YEARS TO COME. IT IS VERY IMPORTANT AS SECRETARY KERRY INDICATE THAT HE FELT IT IS A PRIORITY TO REIGNITE A DIPLOMATIC PROCESS TO TRY AND BRING THE SYRIAN CONFLICT TO NEGOTIATED SETTLEMENT. THE QUESTION IS WHETHER THE U.S. HAS A STRATEGY TO ACT ON THE PRIORITY THAT SECRETARY KERRY EXPRESSED. SO FAR WE HAVEN'T SEEN THAT BUT IT IS A VERY IMPORTANT PRIORITY.

>> LET ME ASK EACH ONE OF YOU STARTING WITH YOU AMBASSADOR FORD. WHAT WOULD AN OUTSIDE TIMMATIC INTERVENTION LOOK LIKE AT THIS POINT?

>> COUPLE OF THINGS. THE KEY REGIONAL STATES ON ALL SIDES BECAUSE THERE ARE MANY STATES PUMPING IN WEAPONS AND MONEY TO THE OPPOSING SIDE'S GOVERNMENT AND OPPOSITION THOSE STATES ARE GOING TO NEED TO AGREE ON SORT OF THE BROAD OUTLINE OF WHAT A SETTLEMENT SHOULD BE AND ACTUALLY, I SAY BROAD OUTLINE BUT IT MAY HAVE TO BE A BIT MORE DETAILED. WE THOUGHT WE HAD SUCH AN AGREEMENT IN THE SUMMER OF 2012, IN JUNE 2012 WITHIN SECRETARY OF STATE HILLARY CLINTON CAME TO AN AGREEMENT WITH THE RUSSIANS WITH ARAB COUNTRIES WITH EUROPEAN COUNTRIES, WITH THE UNITED NATIONS ON WHAT SUCH A SETTLEMENT SHOULD LOOK LIKE, BUT THE COUNTRIES WERE UNABLE TO AGREE AT THE GENEVA CONFERENCE. SO WE HAVE TO GO BACK AND MAKE SURE EVERYONE AGREES ON THE INTERNATIONAL FRAMEWORK. THE SECOND PART AND NO ONE HAS ACHIEVED THIS, THERE IS GOING TO HAVE TO BE AN AGREEMENT ON THE PART OF THE REGIONAL STATES PUMPING IN THE WEAPONRY THAT THEY WILL SNGS THE SIDES THAT BREAK THE AGREED INTERPRETATIONAL FRAMEWORK SO THERE IS A PRAYS -- A PRICE FOR NOT PAYING ATTENTION TO WHAT THE INTERNATIONAL COMMUNITY WANTS TO SEE HAPPEN.

>> Woodruff: STEVE HEYDEMANN, DOES THAT SOUND LIKE THE RIGHT APPROACH TO TRY TO BREAK THROUGH THE STALEMATE?

>> I THINK WE SHOULD FOCUS ON WHAT THE OPPORTUNITIES MIGHT BE TO REVIVE THE PROCESS NOW. THERE'S INDICATIONS THE INTERNAL SUPPORT FOR THE REGIME IS ERODING. WE'VE SEEN VERY LITTLE SUCCESS ON THE BATTLEFIELD ON THE PART OF REGIME FORCES. WE KNOW THAT THE PROXY STATES RUSSIA IN PARTICULAR WHICH HAS BEEN AN ACTIVE SUPPORTER OF IRAN IS BEGINNING TO SHOW SIGNS OF FATIGUE IN SUSTAINING THAT RELATIONSHIP. WHILE I DO AGREE THAT THE GENERAL APPROACH AMBASSADOR FORD SPELLED OUT IS THE CORRECT ONE, I WOULDN'T UNDERESTIMATE THE EXTENTTHE TIME WHICH PASSED SINCE THE FIRST GENEVA PROCESS MAY LIVE US STRONGER POSITION TO MOVE FORWARD ON A NEGOTIATION TRACK THAN IN 2014.

>> Woodruff: WHO SHOULD BE AT THE NEGOTIATING TABLE? WHO IS NEGOTIATING WITH WHOM?

>> WELL, BEFORE I ANSWER THAT DIRECTLY, THIS IS PREDICATED ON THE UNITED STATES PLAYING A DECISIVE LEADING ROLE.

>> Woodruff: HAS TO BE THERE. ABSOLUTELY. THE UNITED STATES HAS TO PUSH THE REGIONAL POWERS THAT CONTRIBUTED TO THE MESS IN THE FIRST PLACE ALLOWING ARM MAMENTS AND -- HARM AIR ARMAMENTS AND THE VOLUNTEERS ESPECIALLY TO THE TURKEY-SYRIAN BORDER. THE POLICY HAS TO CHANGE. THE UNITED STATES CAN STILL HELP THE NON-JIHADI OPPOSITION. ANY GROUP WE CAN DEAL WITH SHORT OF SUPPORTING AL QUAIDA OR I.S.I.S. EVEN LAMSISTS, IF THEY ARE NOT CAUSING ISLAMIC JIHAD BY FORCE, SHOULD BE AT THE TABLE. IN THE END THERE HAS TO BE A CLEAR AMERICAN POSITION, FROM THE OPPOSITION FROM THE ARAB SIDE AND TURKEY THAT ASSAD WILL HAVE NO FUTURE IN SYRIA THEN WE CAN TALK ABOUT SYRIA'S TRANSITION, BUT THE UNITED STATES THAT IS TO PUT THE PARTS TOGETHER. THERE'S NO LEADERSHIP SO FAR AND THAT'S PART OF THE PROBLEM.

>> Woodruff: AMBASSADOR FORD, DOES THAT SOUND LIKE THE WAY YOU GET FROM HERE TO SOME KIND OF A PRODUCTIVE CONVERSATION?

>> IT'S AN ELEMENT. IT'S MOTT THE -- IT'S NOT THE ONLY ELEMENTS. THERE HAS TO BE A GREAT DEAL MORE PRESSURE ON THE SYRIAN GOVERNMENT ITSELF. 13 MONTHS AGO? GENEVA WHEN SECRETARY KERRY WAS THERE, BIG INTERNATIONAL CONFERENCE, THE SYRIAN REGIME POINT-BLANK REFUSED TO NEGOTIATE IT IN KIND OF -- NEGOTIATE ANY KIND OF POLITICAL DEAL, POINT-BLANK REFUSED. SO THERE HAS TO BE MORE PRESSURE ON THE SYRIAN GOVERNMENT TO GO TO THE TABLE AND NEGOTIATE AND MAKE COMPROMISES, WHICH IS WHY IT'S IMPORTANT EVEN AS THE UNITED STATES AND OUR FRIENDS CONFRONT FIGHT THE ISLAMIC STATE IN IRAQ AND SYRIA IGNORING THE ROOT CAUSE OF THE ISLAMIC STATE PROBLEM IN SYRIA IGNORING THE BRUTALITY OF THE OUTSIDE REGIME AND IGNORING THE NEED TO GET TO A NEGOTIATED DEAL WILL LEAD UG NOWHERE.

>> Woodruff: LET ME TURN TO STEVE HEYDEMANN BECAUSE MANY PEOPLE ARE LOOKING AND SAYING WHO DOES ANYBODY SIT DOWN WITH TO REPRESENT THE OPPOSITION ANYMORE BECAUSE IT'S SO FRACTURED?

>> WELL, THERE HAVE BEEN VERY INTERESTING DEVELOPMENTS ON THE OPPOSITION SIDE THAT, AGAIN, I THINK SUGGEST SOME POSSIBILITIES THAT THE OPPOSITION, HAVING TAKEN FAR FAR TOO LONG, WRAPPED UP IN INTERNAL STRUGGLES, IS BEGINNING TO GET ITS ACT TOGETHER. WE'VE SEEN A COUPLE OF MEETINGS IN CAIRO THAT HAVE BROUGHT TOGETHER A NUMBER OF DIFFERENT FACTIONS WITHIN THE OPPOSITION. THE RUSSIANS MORE PROACTIVE ON THE DIPLOMATIC FRONT ANT THE UNITED STATES HAS ALSO BROUGHT TOGETHER A NUMBER OF GROUPS WITHIN THE OPPOSITION. VERY LIMITED BUT NEVERTHELESS BROUGHT THEM TOGETHER IN MOSCOW WITH REGIME REPRESENTATIVES TO TRY TO LAY THE FOUNDATION FOR WHAT COULD BE ANOTHER ROUND OF THETHE GENEVA PROCESS.

>> Woodruff: DO YOU SEE SOMETHING HAPPENING IN THE NEXT YEAR?

>> IF THE UNITED STATES SAYS WE'LL ACCELERATE THE PROCESS AND MAKE IT CLEAR THAT THIS MAN AND HIS PEOPLE HAVE NO PLACE IN THE FUTURE OF SYRIA. WE HAVE TO GIVE THE CLEAR MESSAGE TO THE SYRIANS AND THEN YOU CAN APPEAL THE NON-JIHADISTS TO THE CAUSE BECAUSE THE NON-JIHADISTS WILL BE ALIENATED AND STAND UP WITH THE UNITED STATES AND OTHERS AND REGIONAL POWERS BUT YOU HAVE TO WORK AGAIN ON THE MODERATE OPPOSITION WHO WILL BELIEVE THAT SYRIA IS A COUNTRY THAT SHOULD MAINTAIN PLURALISM, THAT ALL THE MINORITIES WILL BE RESPECTED, NO PERSECUTION, ALL OF THAT. THIS IS THE POLITICAL ELEMENT AND THE UNITED STATES HAS BEEN PUSHING IT BUT NOT FORCEFULLY.

>> Woodruff: AS WE ENTER THE FIFTH YEAR, A LOT HAS NOT HAPPENED YET AND WE LOOK TO SEE HOW IT UNFOLDS. HISHAM MELHEM, STEVE HEYDEMANN AMBASSADOR ROBERT FORD, THANK YOU.

>> Ifill: WE TURN NEXT TO ANOTHER IN OUR OCCASIONAL SERIES ON LONG TERM CARE. AS AMERICANS AGE, MOST PREFER TO STAY IN THEIR OWN HOMES, AND GET HELP WHEN NEEDED WITH THE BASICS OF DAILY LIVING. A NATIONWIDE CAMPAIGN KICKED OFF LAST WEEK CALLING ATTENTION TO THE JOBS AND THE WAGES OF HOME CARE WORKERS. SPECIAL CORRESPONDENT KATHLEEN MCCLEERY REPORTS.

>> GOOD MORNING.

>> IT'S A PASSION JOB, SO IT TAKES A LOT OF PATIENCE, A LOT OF KINDNESS.

>> Reporter: IN LONG BEACH, CALIFORNIA, THERESA KING CARES FOR 88-YEAR-OLD OLA MAE JONES WHO SUFFERS FROM ALZHEIMER'S DISEASE.

>> I'M COOKING YOU SOME FISH.

>> Reporter: FROM COOKING, TO CLEANING, TO COMFORT...

>> DON'T YOU LOVE ME?

>> Reporter: ...THE JOB IS PHYSICALLY DEMANDING AND EMOTIONALLY DRAINING. KING MAKES $9.70 CENTS AN HOUR, ALMOST EXACTLY THE AVERAGE FOR THE NATION'S TWO MILLION HOME CARE WORKERS.

>> I'M GONNA SHOUT ABOUT IT.

>> Reporter: ABOUT 90% ARE WOMEN, HALF ARE PEOPLE OF COLOR. LIKE KING, MANY DON'T WORK FULL TIME AND DON'T GET BENEFITS. SHE QUALIFIES FOR FOOD STAMPS AND SAYS ON HER INCOME, SHE CAN'T AFFORD SOME BASIC NECESSITIES.

>> IT'S NOT ENOUGH TO HAVE YOUR OWN APARTMENT, YOU KNOW, IT'S NOT ENOUGH TO HAVE YOUR OWN TRANSPORTATION WITHOUT A STRUGGLE. YOU DON'T REALLY GET TO LIVE A GOOD LIFE ON THE INCOME OF A HOME CARE WORKER.

>> Reporter: KING'S EMPLOYER, CAMBRIAN HOME CARE, CHARGES BETWEEN $18 AND $22 AN HOUR FOR ITS CAREGIVERS. RHIANNON ACREE, THE COMPANY'S FOUNDER AND PRESIDENT, SAYS HER COSTS GO FAR BEYOND THE WORKERS' WAGES.

>> YOUR WORKER'S COMP ALONE WILL ADD YOU THREE DOLLARS, THEN YOU'VE GOT YOUR UNEMPLOYMENT AND YOU'VE GOT YOUR TAXES TO MATCH, AND YOU'VE GOT YOUR LIABILITY INSURANCES ON TOP OF THAT. THE OTHER NEXT BIG COST IS THE BACKGROUND CHECK. THEN YOU WANT TO STAFF, GET THE COORDINATORS TO PLACE THE RIGHT CAREGIVER AT THE RIGHT HOUSE AND YOU NEED TO MAKE SOME PROFIT.

>> Reporter: WITH 10,000 BABY BOOMERS TURNING 65 EVERY DAY, THE NEED FOR CAREGIVERS LIKE LOUASA GRANT-MORROW IN PHILADELPHIA IS SKYROCKETING. HOME CARE WORK IS ONE OF THE NATION'S FASTEST GROWING INDUSTRIES. BUT UNLIKE MOST OTHER JOBS, THERE'S NO FEDERAL GUARANTEE THESE WORKERS GET MINIMUM WAGE OR OVERTIME. THAT'S BECAUSE THE FAIR LABOR STANDARDS ACT, SIGNED INTO LAW BY PRESIDENT FRANKLIN ROOSEVELT IN 1938, EXEMPTED DOMESTIC SERVICE WORKERS. THE REASON GIVEN: THEY PERFORMED COMPANIONSHIP JOBS SIMILAR TO BABYSITTERS. IN 2013, THE DEPARTMENT OF LABOR ISSUED NEW RULES NARROWING THE COMPANIONSHIP EXEMPTION-- AND EXTENDING THE FEDERAL MINIMUM WAGE AND OVERTIME PROTECTION TO HOME CARE WORKERS. BEFORE THE RULES TOOK EFFECT, A FEDERAL JUDGE HAD OVERTURNED THEM SAYING ONLY CONGRESS COULD CHANGE THE LAW. THE LABOR DEPARTMENT HAS APPEALED, AND A DECISION IS EXPECTED LATER THIS YEAR. OVER THE YEARS, CAREGIVERS' RESPONSIBILITIES HAVE GROWN. GRANT-MORROW KEEPS TRACK OF MEDICATIONS AND HELPS 85-YEAR- OLD ELSIE WISE TRANSFER FROM ONE WHEELCHAIR TO ANOTHER. SHE'S WORKED FOR HOME CARE ASSOCIATES IN PHILADELPHIA FOR FOUR YEARS. THAT TENURE IS UNUSUAL FOR AN INDUSTRY WHERE TURNOVER RATES ARE 50% EACH YEAR. H.C.A. BELIEVES IT CAN RETAIN WORKERS BY OFFERING THEM A BETTER DEAL. THOUGH GRANT-MORROW'S PAY IS LOW-- JUST $8.20 AN HOUR, SHE'S GUARANTEED FULL TIME WORK, AND SHE GETS A TRANSIT PASS TO USE ANYTIME SHE NEEDS TRANSPORTATION. THAT'S JUST PART OF THE COMPANY'S BENEFITS PACKAGE, SAYS H.C.A.'S PRESIDENT, KAREN KULP.

>> THEY GET PAID TIME OFF HEALTH INSURANCE, DENTAL INSURANCE, LIFE INSURANCE POLICY, 401K PLAN, DISABILITY INSURANCE, AND THE ABILITY TO BECOME WORKER/OWNERS.

>> Reporter: THAT'S RIGHT-- OWNERSHIP IN THE COMPANY AND THE CHANCE TO SERVE ON THE BOARD OF DIRECTORS.

>> ONE SHARE IS $500 AND THE WAY WE DO IT IS WE LOAN YOU $465 OF THAT $500 SO YOU, FROM YOUR FIRST PAYCHECK WE TAKE OUT $35, AND THEN YOU CAN PAY THAT BACK OVER AS MANY MONTHS AS IT TAKES TO DO THAT, PAYING $3 A WEEK.

>> I'M A PART OF THE COMPANY. I HAVE A PART TO THE COMPANY.

>> Reporter: GRANT-MORROW BOUGHT IN, AND HER INVESTMENT HAS PAID OFF.

>> AND IF WE'RE HAVING A VERY EXCELLENT YEAR, OF MANY CLIENTELE AND SO ON, A LOT OF US GET NICE, WE GET A NICE PRIZE AS FAR AS BONUSES, GIFTS, AND SO ON, BY THE END OF THE YEAR, SO IT PAYS OFF. IT REALLY DOES.

>> Reporter: SO YOU'VE, YOU'VE GOT YOUR $500 BACK.

>> OH, I'VE GOT MY $500 BACK.

>> Reporter: IN CALIFORNIA, THERESA KING WOULD LIKE BENEFITS, BUT RIGHT NOW, SHE'S FOCUSED ON GETTING A HIKE IN PAY.

>> WE'RE SUPPORTING EVERYONE THAT'S WANTING INCREASED WAGES.

>> Reporter: SHE'S SPOKEN AT RALLIES-- PART OF A NATIONAL EFFORT BY A GROUP CALLED "FIGHT FOR 15" BACKED BY UNIONS TO BOOST WAGES TO $15 AN HOUR FOR A VARIETY OF WORKERS.

>> $15 AN HOUR WOULD CHANGE MY LIFE, YOU KNOW, IT WOULD CHANGE MY LIFE, WHEN YOU'RE MAKING MORE MONEY, IT TAKES AWAY WORRY AND STRESS WHEN YOU'RE MAKING MORE MONEY, SO OF COURSE RELEASING ME OF WORRY AND STRESS WOULD HELP ME IN A WHOLE LOT OF WAYS.

>> Reporter: LABOR UNIONS ARGUE THAT INCREASING WAGES BY 50% WOULD PUT BILLIONS OF NEW DOLLARS INTO THE HANDS OF WORKERS AND WOULD RIPPLE THROUGH THE ECONOMY CREATING THOUSANDS OF JOBS.

>> EVERYBODY WOULD LIKE CAREGIVERS TO MAKE MORE MONEY.

>> Reporter: RHIANNON ACREE SAYS AGENCIES LIKE HERS HAVE TO STRIKE A BALANCE BETWEEN WHAT FAMILIES CAN PAY AND WHAT CAREGIVERS NEED TO MAKE.

>> LIKE EVERYTHING ELSE IF YOU HAVE TO PAY MORE TO PRODUCE SOMETHING, AND IN THIS WE PRODUCE A SERVICE, THEN SOMEBODY HAS TO PAY FOR IT, AND WHAT HAPPENS WHEN THEY CAN'T AFFORD IT? I THINK THAT'S OUR WORRY, IS WHEN CLIENTS CAN'T AFFORD HOME CARE ANYMORE, WHAT HAPPENS?

>> Reporter: KAREN KULP IN PHILADELPHIA ECHOES THAT CONCERN.

>> IT WOULD BE GREAT TO BE ABLE TO PAY FOLKS THAT. AGAIN, IT'S LIKE WHERE IS THAT GOING TO COME FROM? IS IT GOING TO COME FROM PRIVATE PAYERS YOU KNOW WHERE PEOPLE WHO EMPLOY SOMEBODY PRIVATELY WILLING TO PAY THAT MUCH? IS IT GOING TO COME FROM THE GOVERNMENT? IS IT GOING TO COME FROM MEDICARE OR MEDICAID?

>> Reporter: BRIDGING THE GAP BETWEEN LIVABLE WAGES AND REASONABLY PRICED CARE IS THE CHALLENGE FACING POLICY MAKERS, AND FAMILIES WHO NEED CAREGIVERS. I'M KATHLEEN MCCLEERY REPORTING FROM PHILADELPHIA FOR THE PBS NEWSHOUR.

>> Woodruff: WE HAVE MORE REPORTING FROM OUR SERIES, INCLUDING OPTIONS ON HOW TO PAY FOR LONG-TERM CARE. THAT'S ON OUR HOMEPAGE, pbs.org/newshour.

>> Ifill: HOW MANY HOT BUTTONS CAN THEY PUSH AT ONE TIME? THE SENATE TURNS A CONFIRMATION DEBATE INTO A STANDOFF OVER HUMAN TRAFFICKING AND ABORTION. AND, IN NEW HAMPSHIRE, TWO LIKELY REPUBLICAN PRESIDENTIAL CANDIDATES TEST THE WATERS. FOR MORE ON THE WEEK, THIS POLITICS MONDAY, WE TURN TO AMY WALTER OF THE "COOK POLITICAL REPORT," AND TAMARA KEITH OF NPR. CAPITAL HILL, THE ATTORNEY GENERAL'S NO, MA'AM NAYS, LORETTA LYNCH, DESIGNATE'S NOMINATION IS HELD UP NOT BECAUSE OF IMMIGRATION FIGHTS OR OTHER THINGS BUT IN THIS H CASE BECAUSE OF A HUMAN TRAFFICKING BILL THE DEMOCRATS AND REPUBLICANS ACTUALLY AGREE ABOUT?

>> THIS IS A RARE INSTANCE WHERE DEMOCRATS AND REPUBLICANS AGREE ON BIPARTISAN LEGISLATION AND THEN DEMOCRATS CAME OUT A WEEK AGO AND SAID SEEMS THERE'S AN ABORTION PROVISION SNUCK IN HERE BY REPUBLICANS. REPUBLICANS SAY IT WASN'T SNUCK IN HERE. IT'S BEEN HERE ALL ALONG. YOU ALL DIDN'T READ THE BILL AND WE'RE BACK TO WHERE WE ALWAYS ARE ON CAPITOL HILL WHICH IS DEMOCRATS SAYING REPUBLICANS ARE DOING BAD THINGS, REPUBLICANS ARE SAYING DEMOCRATS ARE DOING BAD THINGS AND THEN A STALEMATE, DEMOCRATS SAYING WE'RE NOT VOTING ON THIS. REPUBLICANS SAYING, FINE WE'LL HOLD UP LORETTA LYNCH.

>> Ifill: I'VE NOTICED THE PUSHBACK FROM HILLARY CLINTON AND OTHERS IN PLANNED PARENTHOOD IS THIS IS NOW A TRIPLE ATTACK ON WOMEN AND THAT IS BY ATTACHING THE HYDE ANTI-ABORTION LANGUAGE BY HOLDING UP A HUMAN TRAFFICKING BILL WHICH AFFECTS WOMEN AND BY HOLDING UP THE NOMINATION OF THE FIRST AFRICAN-AMERICAN WOMAN EVER NOMINATED TO BE ATTORNEY GENERAL BURKS THIS IS THE WAR AGAIN.

>> THE OLD WAR ON WOMEN. BUT I THINK WHAT REPS WOULD SAY DISMS SHOULD JUST LET US VOTE ON THIS HUMAN TRAFFICKING BILL. THEY VOTED IT OUT OF COMMITTEE UNANIMOUSLY. LET'S JUST GET THIS OVER WITH AND WE'LL MOVE ON TO LORETTA LYNCH. TRUTH BE TOLD, THERE IS NO TECHNICAL REASON THEY COULDN'T DO BOTH THINGS AT THE SAME TIME.

>> Ifill: WAIT, THAT'S A CONCEPT, DOING TWO THINGS AT ONCE.

>> WALKING, CHEWING GUM... THEY COULD ACTUALLY, TODAY, THE SENATE VOTED ON A COUPLE OF NO MA'AMTATIONS AND VOTED THEM OUT. IT'S NOT LIKE THEY CAN'T TECHNICALLY DO IT. IT BASICALLY IS NOW MITCH McCONNELL SAYING I DO NOT WANT TO MOVE ON TO LORETTA LYNCH UNLESS --

>> Ifill: IT'S HIS LEVERAGE? T'S HIS LEVERAGE BUT ALSO SOME THOUGHT OUT THERE THE VOTE COULD BE CLOSE ON LORETTA LYNCH. REPUBLICANS ESPECIALLY ARE CONCERNED ABOUT HER STANCE ON THE PRESIDENT'S IMMIGRATION ACTION AND OTHER SMALLER THINGS, AND SO THERE IS SOME CONCERN IT COULD BE REALLY CLOSE AND THAT WOULD NOT LOOK GOOD FOR SENATE REPS AND MITCH McCONNELL. ACTUALLY, MITCH McCONNELL HIMSELF HAS NOT YET SAID HOW HE PLANS TO VOTE ON THE LEGISLATION.

>> IT GOES BACK AS BOTH SIDES PLAYING TO THE BASE. DEMOCRATS ARE SAYING TO THEIR BASE WHETHER ON WOMEN OR ABORTION WE'RE STANDING UP FOR YOU. REPUBLICANS, LORETTA LYNCH HAS BEEN ABOUT IMGREAT LAKES USING HER VOTE AS AN OPPORTUNITY TO SAY TO THEIR BASE DOESN'T LIKE IMMIGRATION REFORM AND DOESN'T LIKE WHAT THE PRESIDENT DID ON IMMIGRATION AND WE'LL STAND UP FOR YOU BY VOTING AGAINST LORETTA A LYNCH. WE'RE BACK TO THIS THEATER WHERE WE'RE CONSTANTLY PLAYING AROUND. SEEMS LIKE WE'RE VOTING ON ONE THING BUT THIS IS A DEBATE ON SOMETHING DIFFERENT.

>> SOMETHING DIFFERENT, 2016 CAMPAIGN. THIS WEEKEND MARKED THE MAIDEN VISIT TO NEW HAMPSHIRE IN 15 YEARS FOR JEB BUSH AND SCOTT WALKER, THE GOVERNOR OF WISCONSIN, BOTH OF THEM, DOES IT MATTER? WHAT ARE WE THINKING ABOUT JEB BUSH IN NEW HAMPSHIRE SP.

>> HE WAS GOING TO NEW HAMPSHIRE IN SOME WAY TO SAY I'M NOT GOING TO ACTREICH I'M INEVITABLE. MAYBE I HAVE ALL THE MONEY AND PEOPLE LINED UP, BUT I'M NOT GOING TO CAMPAIGN HERE -- HE WAS BASICALLY GOING TO SAY I AM GOING TO BE MORE LIKE JOHN McCAIN THAN I'M GOING TO BE LIKE MY BROTHER. HE WENT TO A HOUSE PARTY AT A FORMER NEW HAMPSHIRE REPUBLICAN PARTY CHAIR'S HOUSE AND TOOK QUESTIONS FOREVER FROM SMALL CHILDREN, FROM ADULTS, THEN WE WENT OUT IN THE DRIVEWAY AND TOOK QUESTIONS FROM REPORTERS. HE MADE HIMSELF VERY OPEN AND ACCESSIBLE. THIS ALSO PLAYS TO HIS STRENGTHS BECAUSE HE DOESN'T DO BIG SPEECHES AS WELL AS HE DOES Q&As. BUT HE WENT TO NEW HAMPSHIRE AND SAID I'M GOING NEW HAMPSHIRE THE NEW HAMPSHIRE WAY.

>> Ifill: HOW ABOUT SCOTT WALKER?

>> SCOTT WALKER HAS A CHALLENGE BECAUSE HE'S DOING WELL IN IOWA BECAUSE THE ELECTORATE IN IOWA IS THE KIND SCOTT WALKER WOULD DO WELL WITH -- MORE CONSERVATIVE, MIDWESTERN STATE HE'S FROM WISCONSIN. THE QUESTION IS CAN HE DO SOMETHING AFTER IOWA AND WE KNOW NEW HAMPSHIRE IS THE NEXT STATE. MORE MODERATE, INDEPENDENTS ARE THERE, PLAY A BIG ROLE IN THE PRIMARY PROCESS. IFS WILL A PLACE TO STOP JEB BUSH, IT WOULD BE IN NEW HAMPSHIRE. IF HE CAN WIN IOWA AND NEW HAMPSHIRE, THAT WOULD BE A BIG BLOW TO THE BUSH CAMPAIGN.

>> Ifill: TO THE DEMOCRATIC SIDE OF THE LEDGER AND HILLARY CLINTON E-MAILS WHICH WE'VE NOW SEEN. GRAIN OF SALT, BUT WE'VE SEEN A POLL THIS AFTERNOON FROM CNN THAT SHOWS SHE'S TAKING SOMETHING OF A HIT. I DON'T KNOW IF IT'S ABOUT THE EMAIL OR JUST THE GENERAL IDEA OF TRANSPARENCY. HOW DO YOU READ THIS?

>> I READ THIS IS THIS IS A PROBLEM ABOUT BEING DEMOCRATIC NOMINEE FOR PRESIDENT WHEN YOU'RE NOT THE DEMOCRATIC NOMINEE FOR PRESIDENT. SHE IS A CANDIDATE FOR THE PRESIDENT WITHOUT ALL THE THINGS THAT GO ALONG LIKE A CAMPAIGN THAT CAN HELP YOU RESPOND TO. THIS THERE IS A BIG VACUUM AROUND HILLARY CLINTON AND WHAT'S FILLING IT IS A LOT OF NEGATIVE INFORMATION. THAT'S WHAT VOTERS ARE GETTING. AT THE SAME TIME, WHEN YOU LOOK AT THE GUTS OF THIS POLL, WHAT YOU FIND IS HOW PEOPLE FEEL ABOUT HILLARY CLINTON AND WHETHER OR NOT THE E-MAILS ARE RELEVANT IS EXACTLY THE SAME WAY THAT PEOPLE FELT BACK IN 1994 ABOUT WHETHER THE WHITEWATER DOCUMENTS WERE RELEVANT TO WHETHER BILL CLINTON COULD DO HIS JOB. SO REALLY WE'RE BACK TO THIS POLARIZED AMERICA THAT WE HAVE BEEN IN QUITE SOME TIME WHICH IS IF YOU LIKE THE CLINTONS, YOU THINK THIS IS NOT A BIG DEAL. IF YOU DON'T LIKE THEM, IT IS A BIG DEAL.

>> Ifill: EVEN IF SHE TOOK A HIT, SHE'S BETTER IN THE POPULARITY POLLS THAN SAY, THE PRESIDENT OF THE UNITED STATES.

>> CERTAINLY. AND I'VE TALKED TO A LOT OF PEOPLE ON THE GROUND IN IOWA AND NEW HAMPSHIRE AND IN TALKING TO DEMOCRATS THEY FEEL LIKE -- THEY WOULD LOVE FOR HER TO HAVE A PRIMARY AND A LITTLE FIGHT. THERE'S THIS IDEA --

>> Ifill: IT'S HAPPENED TOO OFTEN.

>> YES, AND IT'S HARD TO RUN TOO FAST UNLESS SOMEONE OR SOMETHING IS CHASING YOU. SO I THINK THEY WOULD LIKE HER TO HAVE A LITTLE SOMETHING, BUT THEY JUST AREN'T WORRIED ABOUT THIS EMAIL THING. I THINK IT IS A MUCH BIGGER DEAL IN THIS BUBBLE WHERE WE EXIST HERE IN THE WASHINGTON, D.C. AREA --

>> Ifill: WE MAY NOT BE IN TOUCH WITH WHAT'S HAPPENING --

>> THAT'S RIGHT BURKS WHAT DO WE KNOW ABOUT WHEN YOU'RE AROUND A TODDLER? THE MOST DANGEROUS TIME WHEN THEY'RE IN TROUBLE IS WHEN THEY'RE HUNGRY, TIRED OR BORED. SAME GOES WITH REPORTERS AND THEY'RE VERY BORED NOW. REPORTERS ARE BORED. THERE'S NO PRIMARY AROUND HILLARY CLINTON. THERE'S NOTHING THERE.

>> Ifill: THAT SAID, THERE HAS BEEN SO MUCH SCRUTINY NOW AND SO MUCH CONNECTION MADE BETWEEN WHAT SHE DID AND WHAT THEY HAVE DONE THAT THERE HAS TO BE SOME PRESSURE.

>> ABSOLUTELY. ND I THINK THERE IS -- YEAH, I THINK THAT COMING FROM HER PEOPLE THERE'S A FEELING LIKE SHE'S HELD TO A DIFFERENT STANDARD THAN EVERYONE ELSE. JEB BUSH HAS EMAIL ISSUES, MEMBERS OF CONGRESS DON'T EVEN HAVE TO SAVE THEIR E-MAILS YET WE'RE TALKING ABOUT HILLARY CLINTON AND FOREVER WE'LL BE TALKING ABOUT HILLARY CLINTON.

>> Ifill: OH, THANK YOU. THAT'S SOMETHING TO LOOK FORWARD TO FOR THE NEXT YEAR OR SO. TAMARA KEITH FROM N. P.R. AND AMY WALTER FROM THE POLITICAL REPORT.

>> Woodruff: FINALLY TONIGHT MARCH MADNESS HAS ARRIVED ONCE AGAIN AND THIS YEAR THERE'S A TWIST: THE UNIVERSITY OF KENTUCKY IS MAKING A RUN FOR A HISTORIC AND UNDEFEATED SEASON. THE MEN'S BASKETBALL TEAM IS 34 AND 0, AND FRESH OFF WINNING THE S.E.C. CHAMPIONSHIP ON SUNDAY NIGHT. KENTUCKY COMES IN AS A FAVORITE IN A TOURNAMENT THAT OFTEN SHOWCASES CINDERELLA STORIES. IN AN ERA OF PARITY FOR THE GAME, KENTUCKY'S BECOME KNOWN FOR THEIR TALENT, THEIR COACH JOHN CALIPARI, AND WHETHER HIS PLAYERS LEAVE SCHOOL FAR TOO EASILY AND TOO QUICKLY. JOHN FEINSTEIN OF THE "WASHINGTON POST" JOINS ME NOW. WELCOME BACK TO THE PROGRAM.

>> GOOD TO BE HERE.

>> Woodruff: HOW RARE IS IT FOR A SCHOOL TO GO UNDEFEATED INTO THE FINAL FOUR.

>> RARE. THE LAST TIME WAS NEVADA, LAS VEGAS, 1991 AND THEY LOST TO DUKE IN THE NATIONAL SEMIFINAL. HOWEVER, PEOPLE SEEM TO FORGET THAT LAST YEAR WICHITA STATE WAS 34 AND 0 GOING INTO THE TOURNAMENT BUT BECAUSE THEY AREN'T KENTUCKY, ALL CAPITAL LETTERS, THEY DIDN'T GET AS MUCH ATTENTION AND GLANDER FOR BEING UNDEFEATED AND BEATEN IN THE SECOND ROUND BY KENTUCKY.

>> Woodruff: HOW DO YOU EXPLAIN KENTUCKY'S SUCCESS THIS YEAR?

>> JOHN DID NOT INVENT THE SO-CALLED ONE-AND-DONE RULE, JOHN CALIPARI BUT HE'S PERFECTED IT. THE WAY HE RECRUITS IS HE SAYS YOU MUST GO TO COLLEGE BY RULE FOR AT LEAST A YEAR. I WILL PREPARE YOU BETTER THAN ANYBODY FOR THE N.B.A. TO BE A FIRST-ROUND DRAFT PICK AND WHEN HE RECRUITS THE PLAYERS HE CAN TELL THE -- GUYS AHEAD OF HIM THEY WILL BE GONE TO THE N.B.A. AND THERE WILL BE SPOTS OPEN FOR YOU TO PLAY RIGHT AWAY.

>> Woodruff: WHAT'S THE ARGUMENT ABOUT SUPPORTING STUDENT ATHLETES VS. ONE-AND-DONE?

>> STUDENT ATHLETE TO ME IS BOTH A REDUNDANCY. YOU HAVE TO BE THE A STUDENT IN ORDER TO BE A COLLEGE ATHLETE AND THERE'S A LOT OF HYPOCRISY IN IT BECAUSE SO MANY OF THE PLAYERS AT THE BIG TIME SCHOOL WON'T COME CLOSE TO GRADUATING. THE ONE AND ONE IS A POCKS ON COLLEGE BASKETBALL AND I SAY THAT AS SOMEONE WHO SUPPORTED IT WHEN IT CAME IN BECAUSE I FELT ONE YEAR OF COLLEGE WAS BETTER THAN NONE. NOW I FEEL THE OPPOSITE. IF YOU DON'T WANT TO GO AND YOU'RE GOOD ENOUGH TO GO STRAIGHT TO THE NARKS YOU SHOULD BE ALLOWED TO DO THAT. THAT'S GOING TO BE YOUR PROFESSION, YOU'RE TRAINED AND READY TO DO IT AND REASON PAID MILLIONS OF DOLLARS FOR THAT. TO GO TO COLLEGE AND PRETEND TO BE A STUDENT FOR A YEAR -- BECAUSE THAT'S WHAT THEY'RE DOING. GO TO A CUP OF CLASSES FIRST SEMESTER, STAY ELIGIBLE, AND WHEN THEY GO TO THE LAST GAME THEY PREPARE F THE KNAPP DRAFT AND DON'T FINISH COLLEGE.

>> Woodruff: COACH CALIPARI SAYS HE THINKS GOING ON IS A GOOD IDEA. >>IDEA. HE HAS TWO SOPHOMORE GUARDS WHO WEREN'T GOING TO GO HIGH IN THE DRAFT AS HE THOUGHT SO JOHN, WHO IS VERY GOOD AT MANIPULATING WORDS, IS SAYING WELL, I THINK IT'S OKAY IF THEY COME BACK FOR ANOTHER YEAR BECAUSE HE DOESN'T WANT THE PLAYERS TO FEEL HUMILIATED BY THE FACT THEY WERE "FORCED TO STAY IN COLLEGE AN EXTRA YEAR OR TWO."

>> Woodruff: SO GOING INTO THIS TOWRNTLE I CALLED IT THE FINAL FOUR, I MEAN THE HOLE TOURNAMENT.

>> RIGHT.

>> Woodruff: WHAT SHAPE IS KENTUCKY IN?

>> IF IT WAS BEST FOUR OF SEVEN LIKE THE N.B.A., I DON'T THINK ANYBODY COULD BEAT KENTUCKY. BUT FOR ONE NIGHT SOMEBODY COULD GET FOUL TROUBLE TURN AN ANKLE GET HOT FROM THE THREEPT LINE, YOU CAN LOSE. THAT'S WHAT HAPPENED IN $91 WHEN DUKE BEAT LAS VEGAS. SO THEY'RE NOT A SHOE-IN. THEY ARE THE BEST TEAM UNDEFEATED, GO TEN PLAYERS DEEP HUGE, GUARDS SIX-FOOT-SIX AND SIX-FOOT-SIX. UNHEARD OF. THEY WILL BE DIFFICULT TO BEAT. PEOPLE EXPECT THEM TO FINISH UNDEFEATED, WILL BE THE FIRST SINCE INDIANA DID IT IN 1976, BUT UH IF THEY LOSE, IT WON'T BE COMPLETELY SHOCKING.

>> Woodruff: WHO ELSE DO YOU LIKE? THE OTHER CINDERELLA TEAMS?

>> IF YOU'RE TALKING ABOUT BEATING KENTUCKY, IT'S NOT GOING TO BE A CINDERELLA TEAM. IT WON'T BE A LOW SEED THAT WINS A GAME OR WOO AND KIDS TO THE SWEET 16. ARIZONA IS THE BEST TEAM. THEY WOULD BOTH PLAY KENTUCKY IF ADVANCED IN THE SEMIFINALS. THEY HAVE THE BEST BUILT TEAM TO BEAT KENTUCKY. YOUR ALMA MATER, MY ALMA MATER DUKE COULD HAVE A GREAT SHOOTING NIGHT IF THEY PLAY DEFENSE. WISCONSIN IS AN EXPERIENCED TEAM. THOSE ARE THE ONES THAT COME TO MIND.

>> Woodruff: DO YOU SEE THIS AS A WIDE-OPEN TOURNAMENT? BECAUSE ALREADY A LOT OF PEOPLE TRYING TO DECIDE THEIR NON-MONETARY BETS.

>> THE FIRST TWO WEEKENDS ARE ALWAYS WIDE OPEN. THERE WILL BE UPSETS BY LOW SEEDS. WHEN WE GET TO THE FINAL FOUR IN THREE WEEKENDS, IT'S GOING TO BE BIG TIME TEAMS PLAYING. VERY RARELY YOU GET WHERE GEORGE MASON OR BUTLER THERE, BUT MOST THE TIME IT'S THE BIG TIME SCHOOLS THE LAST WEEKEND AND I EXPECT KENTUCKY TO BE THERE AND INDIANAPOLIS.

>> Woodruff: ARE YOU PICKING SOMEBODY?

>> I ALWAYS TRY TO PICK AN UNDERDOG. I'VE ALREADY GONE ON RECORD PICKING MARYLAND TO BEAT KENTUCKY IN THE SWEET 16 AND I'M SURE THAT WILL MAKE ME VERY POPULAR IN THE STATE OF KENTUCKY BUT YOU'VE GOT TO PICK SOMEBODY WHO'S NOT OBVIOUS.

>> Woodruff: YOU'VE ALWAYS BEEN A MAN OF COURAGE.

>> OR SILLINESS.

>> Woodruff: JOHN FEINSTEIN THANK YOU VERY MUCH.

>> THANKS, JUDY.

>> Ifill: AGAIN, THE MAJOR DEVELOPMENTS OF THE DAY: WALL STREET OPENED THE WEEK WITH A RALLY. THE DOW GAINED NEARLY 230 POINTS. THIS WAS ELECTION EVE IN ISRAEL AND PRIME MINISTER BENJAMIN NETANYAHU APPEALED TO HARD- LINERS BY VOWING THERE WILL BE NO PALESTINIAN STATE-- IF HE'S RE-ELECTED. AND, THE UNITED STATES AND IRAN HELD ANOTHER FIVE HOURS OF NUCLEAR TALKS. A DEADLINE FOR A FRAMEWORK AGREEMENT IS NOW TWO WEEKS AWAY.

>> Woodruff: ON THE NEWSHOUR ONLINE: THE NINE-SECOND VIDEO FEATURING MEMBERS OF A UNIVERSITY OF OKLAHOMA FRATERNITY SINGING A RACIST CHANT HAS SPARKED ANGER AND DISBELIEF, ESPECIALLY AMONG MILLENNIALS, A GENERATION SUPPOSEDLY MORE TOLERANT THAN THEIR PARENTS. WE ASKED YOUNG PEOPLE FROM CAMPUSES ACROSS THE COUNTRY PART OF OUR "STUDENT REPORTING LABS" NETWORK, TO RESPOND IN THEIR OWN WORDS.

>> IT AMAZES ME THAT THAT KIND OF RACISM IN THIS MILLENNIAL AGE ACTUALLY STILL EXISTS. THAT THAT CLOSE-MINDEDNESS IS EVEN STILL AN OPTION.

>> LIKE, YOU'RE NOT BORN RACIST. CLEARLY, YOU'RE LIKE RAISED TO HAVE THAT OPINION. AND THE FACT THAT PEOPLE LIKE TEACH THEIR KIDS THAT, IT'S JUST NOT RIGHT.

>> I'M ALWAYS EXPECTING THINGS TO GO WRONG. AND I'M ALWAYS EXPECTING PEOPLE TO-- TO ACT LIKE HOW THEY REALLY FEEL. YOU KNOW? WHEN THEY'RE, WHEN THEY'RE AROUND THEIR OWN ENVIRONMENT WITH PEOPLE THEY'RE COMFORTABLE WITH. THEY'RE ALWAYS GOING TO SHOW THE EMOTIONS THAT THEY'RE REALLY HIDING.

>> WHEN I FIRST SEEN THE VIDEO, I WAS JUST SURPRISED AT HOW COMFORTABLE THE FRATERNITY WAS SAYING WHAT THEY WERE SAYING. AND HOW EVERYONE WAS CONTRIBUTING AND HOW COMFORTABLE THEY WERE.

>> AS A COUNTRY, WE SHOULD'VE MOVED PAST THAT AND LEFT IT BEHIND, BUT IT'S STILL BEING SHOWN IN PRESENT DAY AND I THINK THAT'S DISGUSTING.

>> I KNOW FRATERNITIES YOU KNOW ARE NOT FAMOUS FOR DOING EXACTLY SMART THINGS IN MOVIE AND REAL LIFE, BUT SOMETHING LIKE THIS KIND OF CROSSES THE LINE AND IT'S REALLY KIND OF HEARTBREAKING THAT SOMETHING THIS CAN STILL EXIST.

>> I WAS HONESTLY KIND OF CONFUSED WHAT THE MOTIVATION WAS FOR DOING THE CHANT. WAS IT TRADITION OR MAYBE THEY'RE JUST STUPID? LIKE, IF IT'S TRADITION, IT STILL DOESN'T MAKE SENSE WHY THAT TRADITION WOULD SURVIVE. YOU CAN WATCH MORE ON THESE STUDENTS. WE ARE HOST AGO TWITTER CHAT TOMORROW AFTERNOON AT 1:00 EASTERN ON THE CHANGING ATTITUDES ON RACE AND CULTURE IN AMERICA, PART OF A SERIES WE'RE CALLING "RACE TODAY." YOU CAN FIND THE DETAILS OF THE CHAT OPEN OUR HOME PAGE, pbs.org/NewsHour.

>> Ifill: AND THAT'S THE NEWSHOUR FOR TONIGHT. ON TUESDAY, WHY STUDENTS AND PARENTS SHOULDN'T STRESS OUT OVER COLLEGE ADMISSIONS. I'M GWEN IFILL.

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