PBS NewsHour; August 22, 2011 3:00pm-4:00pm PDT

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>> Brown: CELEBRATIONS BROKE OUT ACROSS LIBYA TODAY AS REBEL FORCES CLAIMED CONTROL OF MOST OF THE CAPITAL. AND PRESIDENT OBAMA DECLARED THAT MOAMMAR QADDAFI'S RULE IS OVER. GOOD EVENING, I'M JEFFREY BROWN.

>> Suarez: AND I'M RAY SUAREZ. ON THE "NEWSHOUR" TONIGHT: WE GET ON-THE-GROUND ACCOUNTS OF THE FIERCE FIGHTING IN TRIPOLI FROM NEIL CONNERY AND LINDSEY HILSUM OF "INDEPENDENT TELEVISION NEWS."

>> Brown: AND WE INTERVIEW LIBYA'S AMBASSADOR TO THE U.S., ALI SULEIMAN AUJALI.

>> Suarez: THEN, WE UPDATE THE CASE AGAINST FORMER I.M.F. HEAD DOMINIQUE STRAUSS- KAHN, AS PROSECUTORS FILED TO DISMISS SEXUAL ASSAULT CHARGES.

>> Brown: FROM PAKISTAN, FRED DE SAM LAZRO REPORTS ON AN APPEAL FOR CALM IN A CITY DIVIDED BY ETHNIC VIOLENCE.

>> TODAY KARACHI'S NEIGHBORHOODS, POLITICS AND MUCH OF ITS STRIFE HAPPEN ALONG ETHNIC LINES.

>> Suarez: AND JUDY WOODRUFF EXAMINES ONE ORGANIZATION'S PUSH TO HOST AN ONLINE NATIONAL POLITICAL CONVENTION AND PUT ANOTHER CANDIDATE ON THE PRESIDENTIAL BALLOT.

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>> Suarez: INTERNATIONAL LEADERS BEGAN PLANNING TODAY FOR LIBYA'S FUTURE WITHOUT LIBYAN COLONEL MOAMMAR QADDAFI WHO HAS HELD POWER FOR 42 YEARS. EVEN AS QADDAFI CONTINUES TO ELUDE CAPTURE. THEY WELCOMED THE REBELS' DRAMATIC ADVANCES AFTER SIX MONTHS OF FIGHTING. WE BEGIN OUR COVERAGE WITH A REPORT FROM NEIL CONNERY OF "INDEPENDENT TELEVISION NEWS" ON THE REBELS IN THE CAPITAL, TRIPOLI.

>> Reporter: THEIR LONG ROAD TO FREEDOM NEARS ITS END. FOR THE REBELS HEADING TO THE HEART OF TRIPOLI, THIS WAS THE DAY THEY'D LONG DREAMED OF. THOUSANDS STREAM INTO THE CAPITAL AS COLONEL QADDAFI'S RULE COLLAPSES. ( CARS HONKING ) ( CHEERING ) THE REGIME THEY FEARED AND SUFFERED UNDER FOR SO LONG IS NO MORE. OVERNIGHT, THE FIRST REBEL CONVOYS ARRIVED IN GREEN SQUARE, THE SYMBOLIC HEART OF QADDAFI'S LIBYA NOW UNDER THEIR CONTROL. BUT AMID THE JUBILATION SOME OF THOSE STILL LOYAL TO QADDAFI CHOSE TO RESPOND IN THE ONLY WAY THEY KNEW HOW. WHILE MOST OF TRIPOLI MAY BE UNDER REBEL CONTROL, THE FIGHTING IS STILL FAR FROM OVER. THE REBELS MOVED QUICKLY TO CAPTURE QADDAFI'S SONS. ONE, MOHAMMAD, WAS GIVING AN INTERVIEW TO THE AL JAZEERA TELEVISION CHANNEL WHEN THEY ARRIVED. ( GUNSHOTS )

>> ( translated ): I'M BEING ATTACKED RIGHT NOW, THIS IS GUNFIRE INSIDE MY HOUSE. THEY'RE INSIDE MY HOUSE.

>> Reporter: ANOTHER SON, SAIF AL ISLAM JUST 24 HOURS EARLIER APPEARED ON STATE TELEVISION BOASTING THERE WOULD BE NO SURRENDER WAS ALSO SEIZED BY THE REBELS. THE REBEL STRATEGY WAS CAREFULLY PLANNED. FROM THE AIR, NATO TARGETED STRIKES IN THE CITY INCLUDING QADDAFI'S MILITARY COMPOUND BAB AL-AZIZYA IN THE HEART OF TRIPOLI. FROM THE GROUND, REBELS MOVE IN FROM THE WEST FROM ZAWIYA, ACROSS MAYA AND CLOSE IN ON THE WESTERN SIDE OF THE CAPITAL. 200 REBELS ARRIVED BY BOAT FROM MISRATA, LANDING ON THE BEACH TO THE EAST OF THE CITY. THEY FAN OUT ON THE STREETS SECURING THE SURRENDER OF THE MITIGA AIRBASE, THE MAIN MILITARY AIRPORT. FORCES CONTINUED TO PUSH FROM THE EAST AND WEST TO REACH WITHIN TWO MILES OF THE CITY CENTER. AND IN A FINAL ADVANCE IN THE EARLY HOURS OF THIS MORNING THEY REACH GREEN SQUARE. THE REBELS HAVE WASTED LITTLE TIME IN THEIR EFFORTS TO ESTABLISH SOME FORM OF CONTROL. SETTING UP CHECKPOINTS AND FLUSHING OUT THOSE THEY BELIEVE HAD FOUGHT FOR THE REGIME. BUT WHAT OF THE MAN WHO RULED THIS COUNTRY FOR 41 YEARS. THERE'S STILL NO WORD ON THE WHEREABOUTS OF MOAMMAR QADDAFI. ( GUNFIRE ) AS CLASHES CONTINUE THIS EVENING IN PARTS OF TRIPOLI ONE OF THE FIERCEST BATTLES IS AROUND QADDAFI'S COMPOUND. TANKS WERE SEEN EMERGING FROM THE BASE EARLIER AND WITNESSES SAY THERE'S BEEN SUSTAINED GUNFIRE THERE THROUGHOUT THE DAY. NEARLY 24 HOURS SINCE THEIR ARRIVAL, THE REBELS SAY THEY'RE NOW IN CONTROL OF 80% OF THE LIBYAN CAPITAL. THESE REMAIN DANGEROUS HOURS, BUT THE JOY OF A LIBERATED PEOPLE HAS SPREAD ACROSS THIS CITY AND NATION FOR EVERYTHING HAS CHANGED HERE.

>> Brown: LINDSEY HILSUM OF "INDEPENDENT TELEVISION NEWS" HAS BEEN COVERING THE LIBYA WAR SINCE MARCH. SHE RETURNED TO THE COUNTRY LAST WEEK AND ENTERED TRIPOLI WITH THE REBELS YESTERDAY. HERE'S HER REPORT FROM THE CAPITAL AS NEW FIGHTING BROKE OUT TODAY. ( CHEERING )

>> Reporter: HE NEVER THOUGHT HE'D LIVE TO SEE THIS DAY. PRAISE BE TO GOD IT'S OVER. AFTER 42 YEARS, OVER. HIS GRANDSON MAY BE TOO YOUNG TO REMEMBER THE MOMENT WHEN EVERYTHING IN LIBYA CHANGED, BUT HE WAS THERE. ( CHEERING )

>> BYE, BYE QADDAFI. CIAO QADDAFI. BYE BYE.

>> Reporter: TODAY THE STREETS OF TRIPOLI WERE FULL OF JOY. FREEDOM SONGS RANG OUT AS THE REBELS WHO FORCED FREEDOM SONGS RANG OUT AS REBELS WHO FORGED THIS REVOLUTION CELEBRATED THEIR MOMENT.

>> QADDAFI, NO. LIBYA, FREEDOM.

>> Reporter: BUT AS WE MOVE DOWN GARGARESH, ONE OF THE MAIN SHOPPING STREETS, IT BECAME CLEAR THAT NOT ALL QADDAFI LOYALISTS HAVE GIVEN UP THE FIGHT. THE PEOPLE SAY THAT FIRING WAS SNIPERS. THEY'RE STILL HIDING IN THE BUILDING, THEY DON'T KNOW EXACTLY WHERE. THAT'S WHY THEY'RE HERE WITH THEIR BARRICADES FIGHTING BACK.

>> IT TURNED OUT THAT THESE SNIPERS SHOOTING IN OUR DIRECTION WERE IN A CAR DOWN THE ROAD. FURTHER ON THERE WAS FIGHTING WITH HEAVY WEAPONS. ( GUNFIRE )

>> YOU NEVER KNOW WHO'S COMING IN WHO'S COMING OUT BECAUSE THERE ARE LOADS OF MERCENARIES. WE CAUGHT ABOUT NINE OR TEN MERCENARIES.

>> Reporter: YOU CAUGHT THE MERCENARIES YOURSELF?

>> NO, NOT MYSELF, BUT ALL THE PEOPLE, ALL THE REBELS THAT ARE WITHIN THIS AREA.

>> Reporter: LOCAL MEN HAVE ERECTED BARRICADES TO PROTECT THEIR NEIGHBORHOODS. AFTER 48 HOURS OF A PLANNED INSURRECTION THAT TIPPED THE BALANCE AGAINST COLONEL QADDAFI WITH THE CONNIVANCE OF SOME OF HIS MILITARY. CITY? HOW DID YOU GET WEAPONS INTO THE CITY?

>> YEAH, SOME PEOPLE PAY MONEY TO GET IT AND MOST OF THE OTHERS, THEY HAVE FRIENDS IN THE ARMY AND THEY TALK TO THEM AND SECRET WAYS THEY GIVE IT TO THEM. SO, MANY PEOPLE EVEN IN THE ARMY AND THEY ARE SOME OF THEM COLONELS AND SOME OF THEM MORE THAN THAT AND THEY GIVE TO THE PEOPLE THOSE GUNS. I WAS EXPECTED, I ONLY THE ONE WHO HAVE A GUN IN MY STREET. TWO DAYS AGO, I FOUND MAYBE 50 PEOPLE THEY HAVE GUNS. EVERYBODY TAKE HIS GUN OUT AND HE COME TO THE STREET TO CONTROL THE STREETS, TO FIGHT FOR THIS COUNTRY.

>> Reporter: AND THEN THE FIGHTERS FROM THE HILLS TURNED UP. REBELS WHO'VE BEEN BATTLING WEST OF TRIPOLI SINCE FEBRUARY. THESE ARE THE SHABBAB, THE REBELS FROM THE MOUNTAINS. THEY'VE BEEN FIGHTING FOR SIX MONTHS FOR THIS MOMENT WHEN THEY BRING THE REVOLUTION TO THE CAPITAL OF LIBYA.

>> Reporter: THE PEOPLE OF TRIPOLI GREETED THEM LIKE HEROES.

>> ALL OF THEM ARE MY SONS. WE ARE FREE FOR ALL LIBYA. THIS IS MY COUNTRY, THIS IS MY HOUSE, THIS IS MY STREET. THESE ARE MY SONS. ALL OF US ARE FREE, ARE FREE, ARE FREE.

>> Reporter: THEY'RE DESTROYING THE REMNANTS OF COLONEL QADDAFI'S RULE. THEY DON'T KNOW WHERE HE IS, BUT THEY WANT NO MERCY FOR HIM. WHO KNOWS WHAT WILL HAPPEN NEXT IN LIBYA. IT'S A LONG AND UNCERTAIN ROAD TO DEMOCRACY AND THE RULE OF LAW. THERE'S STILL FIGHTING IN TRIPOLI AND OTHER CITIES, BUT TODAY IS A DAY IN THE HISTORY OF THIS COUNTRY LIKE NONE OTHER.

>> Brown: I TALKED WITH LINDSEY HILSUM FROM TRIPOLI AFTER SHE FILED THAT REPORT. LINDSEY HILSUM, THANKS FOR TALKING TO US. IT'S NIGHTTIME THERE NOW. WHAT'S THE SITUATION? IS FIGHTING CONTINUING.

>> YES, I UNDERSTAND IT IS IN THE CENTER AROUND THE COMPOUND WHICH IS COLONEL QADDAFI'S COMPOUND ALTHOUGH WE DON'T THINK HE'S THERE. AND THE HOTEL WHICH IS WHERE MANY WERE TRAPPED. I AM IN THE WEST OF THE CITY IN A QUIET AREA. ALL I CAN HEAR IS A LITTLE BIT OF GUN FIRE AND THE SOUND OF NATO PLANES OVERHEAD. IN OTHER PARTS OF THE CITY IT'S EXTREMELY DANGEROUS, VIOLENT AND VOLATILE TONIGHT. I HAVE JUST HEARD A COUPLE OF BANGS EVEN AS I'M SPEAKING TO YOU.

>> Brown: YOU MENTIONEDED KA GAFFEY. IS THERE ANY BETTER SENSE OF HIS WHEREABOUTS EVEN IF HE'S IN FACT STILL IN THE COUNTRY.

>> NOT REALLY. I ASKED ONE MAN TODAY WHERE IS GADHAFI AND HE SAID GONE WITH THE WIND. I THINK THAT'S AS GOOD A GUESS AS ANY. THERE IS NO SOLID INFORMATION ABOUT HIS WHEREABOUTS OR HIS PLANS OTHER THAN HIS LAST AUDIO BROADCAST IN WHICH HE SAID THAT HE WOULD NEVER SURRENDER. IF HE DIED HE WOULD DIE IN LIBYA.

>> Brown: AS TO THE LOYALISTS STILL FIGHTING, DOES THE BULK OF THE ARMY SEEM TO HAVE FLED OR CRUMBLED? WHAT CAN YOU TELL ABOUT THE STRENGTH OF THE LOYALISTS AT THIS POINT?

>> WELL, I THINK COLONEL GADHAFI'S ARMY WAS ALWAYS FRAGMENTED INSTITUTION. PEOPLE I WAS TALKING TO SAY THAT PEOPLE IN THE ARMY EVEN GAVE THEM WEAPONS. AND LET PRISONERS OUT. I DON'T THINK IT'S AT ALL SOLID. WHAT THE REBELS AND PEOPLE WHO PEOPLE... PEOPLE WHO... THE MAIN PEOPLE FIGHTING FOR COLONEL GADHAFI NOW ARE MERCENARIES. MANY OF THEM ARE FROM AFRICAN COUNTRIES, BUT AT ONE POINT TODAY WE WERE NEAR THE NATIONAL OIL CORPORATION, AND THERE THE REBELS HAVE TAKEN IT OVER. THEY WERE MARCHING WITH THEIR HANDS ON THEIR HEADS. I ASKED WHO WERE THESE PERSONS? AND I WAS TOLD THEY WERE UKRAINIAN MERCENARIES.

>> Brown: YOUR REPORT SHOWS US PICTURES OF JOYOUS RESIDENTS. CAN YOU TELL IF THAT IS THE MAJORITY OF THE PEOPLE OR IS THERE STILL SOME SENSE OF A DIVIDED CITY?

>> I THINK THE MAJORITY. I CAME TO LIBYA FOR THE FIRST TIME SIX MONTHS AGO, JUST A FEW DAYS AFTER THE REVOLUTION STARTED IN THE EAST. I SPENT A LOT OF TIME THERE THIS YEAR. OF COURSE THERE ARE PEOPLE WHO HAVE BENEFITED FROM COLONEL GADHAFI'S RULE. THERE ARE FAMILIES AND TRIBES WHO MADE ALLIANCES WITH HIM. BUT THE MAJORITY OF LIBYANS, AS FAR AS I CAN TELL, HATE HIM. WANT TO SEE HIM GO. THAT'S WHY THERE WAS SUCH EXTRAORDINARY SCENES OF EMOTION AND JUBILATION ON THE STREETS TODAY AND LAST NIGHT. IT'S NOT OVER. THERE IS STILL THIS FIGHTING. THERE'S A DANGER THAT THERE COULD BE MORE BLOODSHED, MAYBE A LOT MORE BLOODSHED. BUT STILL PEOPLE I WAS SPEAKING TO TODAY WERE SAYING THIS IS THE FIRST TIME WE FEEL THAT WE BREATHE FREEDOM.

>> Brown: AND FINALLY, CAN YOU TELL, IS THERE A SENSE OF DISCIPLINE OR COMMAND AMONG THE REBELS? IS THERE A PRESENCE OF SOME KIND OF LEADERSHIP?

>> WELL, THE NATIONAL TRANSITIONAL COUNCIL IS STILL IN BENG HASY THE CITY WHICH THEY TOOK BACK IN FEBRUARY. THEY SAID, OF COURSE, IT'S STILL SO VIOLENT I'M NOT QUITE SURE WHEN THAT WILL BE POSSIBLE. BUT WHAT IS INTERESTING IS HOW COORDINATED AND WELL ORGANIZED THIS INSURRECTION WAS STARTED ON SATURDAY WAS. OBVIOUSLY FOR MANY MONTHS THE PEOPLE WHO WERE GOING TO TAKE PART IN THAT HERE MET AND TALKED QUIETLY AND SECRETLY AND WEAPONS WERE SMUGGLED IN. AND THEN THE IMAMS AT THE MOMENT OF THE BREAKING OF THE RAMADAN FAST CALLED FROM THE MINARETS FOR PEOPLE TO RISE UP. THEY CAME OUT IN THE TENS OF THOUSANDS AND STARTED TO ATTACK COLONEL GEORGIA... GADHAFI'S INSTALLATIONS. AT THE SAME TIME REBELS FROM DIFFERENT PARTS OF THE SURROUNDING AREA OF TRIPOLI MARCHED... STARTED TO MARCH TOWARD THE CAPITAL CITY. THAT SHOWS THE DEGREE OF COORDINATION WHICH WE CERTAINLY DIDN'T SEE AT THE BEGINNING OF THIS REVOLUTION BACK IN FEBRUARY.

>> Brown: LINDSEY HILSUM OF ITN, THANKS SO MUCH AND TAKE GOOD CARE.

>> YOU'RE WELCOME.

>> Suarez: WORLD LEADERS INCLUDING PRESIDENT OBAMA TODAY APPEALED TO QADDAFI TO PREVT FURTHER BLOODSHED IN HIS COUNTRY AND URGED OPPOSITION FORCES TO BUILD A DEMOCRATIC GOVERNMENT THROUGH PEACEFUL MEANS. FIVE MONTHS AFTER THE NATO BOMBING CAMPAIGN BEGAN, SOME OF THE LEADERS WHO ORDERED THE AIRSTRIKES STRUCK CAUTIOUS NOTES TODAY AS QADDAFI'S RULE APPEARED TO BE NEAR ITS END. PRESIDENT OBAMA SPOKE FROM HIS VACATION SPOT ON MARTHA'S VINEYARD THIS AFTERNOON.

>> THE SITUATION IS STILL VERY FLUID. THERE REMAINS A DEGREE OF UNCERTAINTY, AND THERE ARE STILL REGIME ELEMENTS WHO POSE A THREAT. BUT THIS MUCH IS CLEAR: THE QADDAFI REGIME IS COMING TO AN END, AND THE FUTURE OF LIBYA IS IN THE HANDS OF ITS PEOPLE.

>> Reporter: MR. OBAMA SAID THE UNITED STATES WOULD REMAIN ENGAGED DIPLOMATICALLY AND MILITARILY TO ENSURE A SMOOTH TRANSFER OF POWER AS THE TRANSITIONAL NATIONAL COUNCIL, OR T.N.C., BEGINS TO TAKE CHARGE.

>> THE UNITED STATES WILL BE A FRIEND AND A PARTNER. WE WILL JOIN WITH ALLIES AND PARTNERS TO CONTINUE THE WORK OF SAFEGUARDING THE PEOPLE OF LIBYA. OUR DIPLOMATS WILL WORK WITH THE T.N.C. AS THEY ENSURE THAT THE INSTITUTIONS OF THE LIBYAN STATE ARE PROTECTED, AND WE WILL SUPPORT THEM WITH THE ASSETS OF THE QADDAFI REGIME THAT WERE FROZEN EARLIER THIS YEAR.

>> Suarez: THE PRESIDENT ALSO PRAISED NATO AND THE ALLIANCE APPROACH HE ADVOCATED AFTER DECIDING ACTION SHOULD BE TAKEN. MR. OBAMA HAD SHOWN SOME RETICENCE, INITIALLY, TO EMPLOY MILITARY POWER IN LIBYA BUT DECIDED TO USE FORCE AFTER AN EXTENSIVE, INTERNAL ADMINISTRATION DEBATE

>> ALTHOUGH THE EFFORTS IN LIBYA ARE NOT YET OVER, NATO HAS ONCE MORE PROVEN THAT IT IS THE MOST CAPABLE ALLIANCE IN THE WORLD AND THAT ITS STRENGTH COMES FROM BOTH ITS FIREPOWER AND THE POWER OF OUR DEMOCRATIC IDEALS. AND THE ARAB MEMBERS OF OUR COALITION HAVE STEPPED UP AND SHOWN WHAT CAN BE ACHIEVED WHEN WE ACT TOGETHER AS EQUAL PARTNERS. THEIR ACTIONS SENT A POWERFUL MESSAGE ABOUT THE UNITY OF OUR EFFORT AND OUR SUPPORT FOR THE FUTURE OF LIBYA.

>> Suarez: THE PRESIDENT RESERVED A FINAL WORD FOR THE PEOPLE WHO BEGAN AND ARE ON THE VERGE OF FINISHING THIS LATEST ARAB REVOLUTION.

>> FINALLY, THE LIBYAN PEOPLE: YOUR COURAGE AND CHARACTER HAVE BEEN UNBREAKABLE IN THE FACE OF THE TYRANT. AN OCEAN DIVIDES US, BUT WE ARE JOINED IN THE BASIC HUMAN LONGING FOR FREEDOM, FOR JUSTICE AND FOR DIGNITY. YOUR REVOLUTION IS YOUR OWN, AND YOUR SACRIFICES HAVE BEEN EXTRAORDINARY.

>> Suarez: BRITISH PRIME MINISTER DAVID CAMERON STEPPED OUTSIDE TEN DOWNING STREET EARLIER IN THE DAY.

>> OUR TASK NOW IS TO DO ALL WE CAN TO SUPPORT THE WILL OF THE LIBYAN PEOPLE WHICH IS FOR AN EFFECTIVE TRANSITION TO A FREE, DEMOCRATIC AND INCLUSIVE LIBYA.

>> Suarez: IN PARIS, FRENCH FOREIGN MINISTER ALAIN JUPPE SAID THAT A MEETING WOULD BE CONVENED IN PARIS NEXT WEEK TO BEGIN PLANNING FOR THE STABILIZATION OF LIBYA, WHICH IS ESSENTIALLY WITHOUT A CIVIL SERVICE OR FUNCTIONAL INSTITUTIONS OF GOVERNMENT.

>> ( translated ): WE MUST CERTAINLY REMAIN CAUTIOUS, THE FIGHTING ISN'T OVER. IT FALLS TO ME TO ONCE AGAIN APPEAL TO THE LAST SUPPORTERS OF QADDAFI TO STOP FIGHTING AND LAY DOWN THEIR WEAPONS, AS THE DAYS OF THE REGIME ARE NOW NUMBERED.

>> Suarez: AT THE UNITED NATIONS, SECRETARY GENERAL, BAN KI-MOON, SAID THAT STANDING INTERNATIONAL CRIMINAL WARRANTS FOR QADDAFI AND HIS SONS-- THREE OF WHOM ARE IN CUSTODY-- SHOULD BE SERVED.

>> IT IS CRUCIAL NOW FOR THE CONFLICT TO END WITH NO FURTHER LOSS OF LIFE AND RETRIBUTION. I WELCOME THE ASSURANCES GIVEN BY THE CHAIRMAN OF THE NATIONAL TRANSITIONAL COUNCIL, MR. MUSTAFA ABDUL JALIL, THAT EXTREME CARE WOULD BE TAKEN TO PROTECT PEOPLE AND PUBLIC INSTITUTIONS AND TO MAINTAIN LAW AND ORDER.

>> Suarez: THERE WAS LATE WORD TODAY THAT A FOURTH QADDAFI SON KHAMIS MAY HAVE BEEN KILLED ALONG WITH THE VETERAN INTELLIGENCE CHIEF OF LIBYA. NOW TO THE AMBASSADOR WHO FIRST REPRESENTED QADDAFI'S GOVERNMENT, BUT BROKE WITH THEM AND NOW SPEAKS IN WASHINGTON FOR THE REBELS. HE IS ALI SULEIMAN AUJALI. I TALKED WITH HIM EARLIER THIS EVENING. AMBASSADOR, WELCOME TO THE PROGRAM. WHAT'S THE LATEST NEWS THAT YOU'VE GOTTEN FROM LIBYA TODAY?

>> THANK YOU. WELL, THE LATEST NEWS IS THE T.N.C. THAT CONTROLS TRIPOLI AND THERE EXISTS GADHAFI'S FORCES, THEY ARE SHRINKING AND NOW DESPERATE. WE STILL HAVE THE GADHAFI'S COMPOUND, THEY STILL HAVE SOME HOSPITALS THERE AND MAYBE HOTELS. THE SITUATION COMPLETELY UNDER CONTROL. BUT WE STILL ARE HUNTING FOR GADHAFI. WE MUST FIND HIM AND WE MUST GET HIM.

>> Suarez: ARE YOU ASSUMING THAT HE IS STILL IN THE COUNTRY?

>> I DO. YES.

>> Suarez: FROM WHAT YOU KNOW OF THE MAN, WHAT DO YOU THINK HIS NEXT MOVE IS? IS HE LIKELY TO SUR SURRENDER OR WILL HE CONTINUE TO FIGHT?

>> I BELIEVE THAT GADHAFI IS A VERY SHREWD MAN. HE WILL NOT SURRENDER. HE WILL NOT GIVE UP. HE WILL CONTINUE TO FIGHT, I BELIEVE, AND YOU NEVER PREDICT WHAT HE'S GOING TO DO, HIS NEXT STEP. THIS IS WHY WE HAVE TO BE READY FOR ANY ACTION, FOR ANY SURPRISES. T.N.C., I THINK THEY'RE GOING ON WHAT THEY HAVE TO STOP GADHAFI FROM HURTING HIS OWN PEOPLE FURTHER.

>> Suarez: SO THERE ARE STILL FORCES ALIGNED WITH THE FORMER LEADER WHO COULD STILL HURT PEOPLE, CAUSE DAMAGE IN LIBYA TODAY?

>> YES.

>> Suarez: SO WHO IS RUNNING THE COUNTRY NOW?

>> WELL, THE COUNTRY IS RUN BY THE T.N.C., BY THE LOCAL COUNCIL AND GADHAFI ONLY HAS ACCESS TO SOME OF HIS PEOPLE WHO ARE STILL WITH HIM. THAT'S ALL.

>> Suarez: WHAT'S THE FIRST JOB FOR THE TRANSITIONAL NATIONAL COUNCIL? WHAT DO THEY REALLY HAVE TO ACCOMPLISH BEFORE THEY CAN START DOING THE OTHER THINGS THAT A GOVERNMENT DOES? >>.

>> I THINK THE FIRST JOB THEY HAVE TO GET THIS MAN. THEY HAVE TO ARREST HIM. AND THEY HAVE TO GET HIM. IF HE IS STILL AT LARGE, I THINK THE DANGERS ARE STILL AROUND. THE OTHER THING OF THE SECURITY OF THE TRIPOLI AND THE CITIES AROUND TRIPOLI IS CRUCIAL. ACCESS TO THE ASSETS IS ISSUE THAT IS VERY IMPORTANT FOR THE T.N.C. TO RUN THE SERVICE TO THE PEOPLE, ESPECIALLY IN THE WESTERN PART WHO HAVE BEEN UNDER THE GADHAFI SIEGE FOR THE LAST SIX MONTHS. THEY NEED IT VERY BADLY. THEY NEED IT FOR SECURITY. THEY NEED IT FOR STABILITY. THEY NEED IT FOR MEDICINE. THEY NEED IT FOR GOODS. THIS IS A VERY IMPORTANT ISSUE. WE HOPE THAT WE WILL HAVE ACCESS VERY SOON TO THE FROZEN MONEY.

>> Suarez: DO YOU THINK THAT WILL GO A LONG WAY TOWARD STOPPING THE FIGHTING IF THEY DO, AS YOU SAY, GET GADHAFI, WILL THE PEOPLE WHO SUPPORT HIM STOP FIGHTING, LAY DOWN THEIR ARMS IF THEY SEE THAT HE'S EITHER DEAD OR IN CUSTODY?

>> WELL, I THINK THIS IS TRUE. BUT AT THE SAME TIME PEOPLE ARE LAYING DOWN THEIR ARMS NOW. YOU KNOW THAT BREGGA, WHICH HAS BEEN AN OBSTACLE, SO I'M TOLD, THE ADVANCE OF THE EAST TO THE WEST, NOW IT IS A COMPLETELY UNDER THE CONTROL OF THE T.N.C. PROCESS. THEY GAVE UP THEIR ARMS LAST NIGHT AND IT'S COMPLETELY UNDER CONTROL. NOT ONLY THAT, BUT THE SECURITY BRIGADES OF GADHAFI HAVE SURRENDERED COMPLETELY. THEY GIVE THEIR ARMS. HIS PRIME MINISTER NOW IN TUNISIA AND NOBODY IS AROUND WITH HIM EXCEPT SOME SOLDIERS, SOME MERCENARIES WHO ARE STILL WHO CAN REALLY MAKE THE SITUATION A BIT COMPLICATED UNTIL WE GET HIM AND WE GET RID OF HIM.

>> Suarez: WE'VE SEEN IN RECENT YEARS AS DEEPLY ENTRENCHED REGIMES ARE OVERTHROWN THEIR GOVERNMENTS ARE OUT OF POWER BUT OFTEN THE BLOODSHED CONTINUES. CAN THAT BE AVOIDED IN LIBYA?

>> WELL, WE'RE TRYING TO DO THAT. I HOPE THAT GADHAFI ALLOWS NO MORE ACCESS TO ANYTHING AND THIS IS THE CASE. BUT I'M VERY OPTIMISTIC. VERY A... WE ARE A VERY SMALL NATION. WE'RE NOT BAGHDAD OR AFGHANISTAN. THE PEOPLE UNDER GADHAFI REGIME ARE DESPERATE. THEY WANT TO GET RID OF HIM. I THINK IN THE NEAR FUTURE THAT WE WILL NOT FIND ANYONE WHO REALLY HAS ANY SYMPATHY FOR THE GADHAFI REGIME. PEOPLE DON'T REMEMBER ANYTHING GOOD ABOUT GADHAFI. WHAT DO THEY REMEMBER? DICTATORSHIP, ABUSES, FRUSTRATION. KILLINGS, MURDERS. THAT'S WHAT THE PEOPLE REMEMBER FROM THE GADHAFI REGIME. NOW THEY HAVE A HUB. NOW THEY HAVE DREAMS. NOW THEY HAVE HOPE. NOW THEY HAVE TO PROTECT THEIR REVOLUTION. NOW THEY HAVE A CHANCE TO PRACTICE DEMOCRACY. NOW THEY CAN FORM THEIR OWN PARTY. NOW THEY CAN CHOOSE THEIR OWN PEOPLE. NOW THEY CAN HAVE A GOOD RELATION WITH THE DEMOCRATIC COUNTRIES IN THE WORLD. NOW WE WILL FEEL MORE COMFORTABLE AT LEAST. I WANT TO ENJOY MY JOB AS AMBASSADOR. AND PRESENT A COUNTRY WHICH MAKES MY LIFE A LITTLE BIT EASY. I AM FACING A VERY GREAT CHALLENGE SINCE I'M JOINED THE FOREIGN SERVICE MANY YEARS AGO.

>> Suarez: THERE'S GOING TO BE AN INTERNATIONAL MEETING IN PARIS IN THE COMING DAYS ABOUT THE FUTURE LIBYA. WHAT KIND OF HELP DOES YOUR COUNTRY NEED FROM THE REST OF THE WORLD NOW?

>> OF COURSE WE NEED THE NATIONS, THE NATO NATIONS, TO BE COMPLETE... THE NATO MISSION TO BE COMPLETED. WE NEED TO HAVE ACCESS TO THE FROZEN MONEY. WE NEED SUPPORT TO BUILD OUR DEMOCRATIC INSTITUTIONS. WE NEED HELP TRAINING OUR PEOPLE. WE NEED HELP TO SECURE OUR BORDERS. AND OUR BEACHES. ALL OF THIS IS IS A VERY IMPORTANT ISSUE. AND LIBYA NEEDS HELP IN IT.

>> Suarez: AMBASSADOR, THANKS FOR JOINING US.

>> THANK YOU VERY MUCH.

>> Brown: STILL TO COME ON THE "NEWSHOUR": DROPPING THE CHARGES AGAINST DOMINIQUE STRAUSS-KAHN; STEMMING VIOLENCE IN PAKISTAN AND PUSHING FOR A NATIONAL POLITICAL CONVENTION ONLINE. BUT FIRST, THE OTHER NEWS OF THE DAY. HERE'S KWAME HOLMAN.

>> Holman: OIL PRICES AROUND THE WORLD FELL TODAY ON THE PROSPECT CRUDE FROM LIBYA WILL RETURN TO THE MARKETPLACE AFTER MONTHS OF POLITICAL TURMOIL. IN THE U.S., BENCHMARK CRUDE IN NEW YORK TRADING INITIALLY FELL THEN CLIMBED BACK UP TO SETTLE JUST ABOVE $84 A BARREL. AND WALL STREET HAD A MORE STABLE DAY, AS INVESTORS MOVED TO SNAP UP CHEAP STOCKS. THE DOW JONES INDUSTRIAL AVERAGE GAINED 37 POINTS TO CLOSE ABOVE 10,854. THE NASDAQ ROSE MORE THAN THREE POINTS TO CLOSE AT 2,345. AT LEAST THREE PEOPLE WERE KILLED AS ANTI-GOVERNMENT PROTESTS CONTINUED ACROSS SYRIA TODAY. THE DEMONSTRATIONS CAME AFTER PRESIDENT BASHAR AL-ASSAD INSISTED ON STATE TELEVISION YESTERDAY THAT HIS REGIME REMAINS STRONG. HE ALSO REPEATED A PLEDGE TO MAKE REFORMS. U.N. SECRETARY GENERAL BAN KI- MOON SAID TODAY IT WAS TROUBLING ASSAD HAS BROKEN HIS WORD TO END THE MILITARY OPERATIONS AGAINST PROTESTERS AND MAKE REFORMS. AND IN GENEVA, THE U.S. AMBASSADOR TO THE U.N.'S HUMAN RIGHTS COUNCIL EILEEN CHAMBERLAIN DONAHOE SAID IT'S TIME FOR ASSAD TO STEP ASIDE.

>> IT IS CLEAR THAT PRESIDENT ASSAD BELIEVES THAT HE CAN SILENCE THE VOICES OF HIS PEOPLE BY RESORTING TO THE REPRESSIVE TACTICS OF THE PAST. BUT HE IS WRONG. IT IS TIME FOR THE SYRIAN PEOPLE TO DETERMINE THEIR OWN DESTINY AND WE WILL CONTINUE TO STAND FIRMLY ON THEIR SIDE.

>> Holman: ALSO TODAY, A U.N. OFFICIAL REPORTED THE DEATH TOLL FROM THE SYRIAN GOVERNMENT'S FIVE-MONTH CRACKDOWN HAS REACHED 2,200. PALESTINIAN MILITANTS KEPT UP A ROCKET CAMPAIGN INTO SOUTHERN ISRAEL TODAY, IN SPITE OF AN UNOFFICIAL CEASE-FIRE. THE ISRAELI MILITARY SAID 15 ROCKETS AND MORTARS WERE LAUNCHED OVERNIGHT, BUT THERE WERE NO INJURIES. THE INFORMAL CEASE-FIRE WAS AGREED TO SUNDAY AFTER LAST WEEK'S ATTACK ON ISRAELIS NEAR THE EGYPT-ISRAEL BORDER SPARKED FIGHTING. IN AFGHANISTAN, AN AUSTRALIAN SOLDIER WAS KILLED BY AN IMPROVISED EXPLOSIVE DEVICE WHILE ON PATROL TODAY. AUSTRALIA HAS MORE THAN 1,500 TROOPS FIGHTING IN AFGHANISTAN-- THE LARGEST FORCE PROVIDED BY ANY COUNTRY OUTSIDE OF NATO. THE FIRST HURRICANE OF THE ATLANTIC SEASON FORMED OVER PUERTO RICO THIS MORNING. HURRICANE IRENE IS FORECAST TO TRACK JUST NORTH OF HAITI AND THE DOMINICAN REPUBLICAN WITH WINDS OF 80 MILES PER HOUR. IT COULD REACH THE SOUTHEAST COAST OF THE U.S. BY THE END OF THE WEEK. THE STORM'S HEAVY RAIN AND WINDS SLAMMED INTO PUERTO RICO OVERNIGHT KNOCKING OUT POWER TO MORE THAN A MILLION PEOPLE. THE GOVERNOR HAS DECLARED A STATE OF EMERGENCY. THE PUBLIC GOT ITS FIRST LOOK AT A NEW MONUMENT HONORING THE MEMORY OF DOCTOR MARTIN LUTHER KING JUNIOR TODAY. LOCATED ON THE NATIONAL MALL IN WASHINGTON, THE SITE FEATURES A 30-FOOT TALL STATUE OF THE LATE CIVIL RIGHTS LEADER, AND A LONG GRANITE WALL INSCRIBED WITH QUOTATIONS FROM SOME OF DR. KING'S SPEECHES. COMPLETING THE MEMORIAL WAS A MORE THAN 25-YEAR PROCESS. CONSTRUCTION WAS SPEARHEADED BY A FOUNDATION HEADED BY HARRY JOHNSON.

>> DR. KING WAS SO PROFOUND AT SUCH A YOUNG AGE, TO SAY THE WORDS THAT HE SAID THAT WILL LIVE FOREVER. AND THAT'S WHY WE CALL THIS A LIVING MEMORIAL, THAT YOU CAN WALK THE WALL AND YOU ACTUALLY GET A SENSE OF IS HE STILL TALKING IN 1960 OR IS HE TALKING IN 2011. I THINK WE ALL WALK AWAY SAYING THIS IS SO RELEVANT TODAY BECAUSE WE CAN ALL LIVE, SEE, AND PLACE DR. KING IN PROPER PERSPECTIVE THAT THESE WORDS HAVE MEANING NOW.

>> Holman: THE MEMORIAL WILL BE DEDICATED AT A CEREMONY ON SUNDAY, THE 48th ANNIVERSARY OF THE MARCH ON WASHINGTON. PRESIDENT OBAMA WILL BE AMONG THE SPEAKERS. THOSE ARE SOME OF THE DAY'S MAJOR STORIES. NOW, BACK TO JEFF.

>> Brown: PROSECUTORS IN NEW YORK TODAY INDICATED THAT THEY WILL DROP CHARGES AGAINST DOMINIQUE STRAUSS-KAHN FOLLOWING MORE DOUBTS ABOUT HIS ACCUSER'S CREDIBILITY. HARI SREENIVASAN HAS OUR UPDATE. THE FORMER HEAD OF THE INTERNATIONAL MONETARY FUND WAS ARRESTED IN MAY, AFTER A HOTEL MAID ACCUSED HIM OF SEXUALLY ASSAULTING HER WHEN SHE ARRIVED TO CLEAN HIS ROOM. DEFENSE ATTORNEYS ASSERTED ALL ALONG THAT ANY SEXUAL CONTACT WAS CONSENSUAL. BUT THE CASE BEGAN TO UNWIND WHEN PROSECUTORS REPORTEDLY LOST FAITH IN THE ACCUSOR, A SINGLE MOTHER FROM GUINEA WHO INVESTIGATORS FOUND HAD MADE A NUMBER OF FALSE STATEMENTS AND TOLD INCONSISTENT VERSIONS OF EVENTS FOLLOWING THE ALLEGED ATTACK. PROSECUTORS ARE EXPECTED TO TELL THE JUDGE THEIR INTENTIONS AT A COURT HEARING TOMORROW MORNING IN MANHATTAN. FOR MORE ON ALL THIS, WE TURN TO SARA EISEN WHO HAS BEEN REPORTING ON THE CASE FOR BLOOMBERG TV.

>> GOOD TO SEE YOU. THANKS FOR HAVING ME.

>> LET'S START A LITTLE BIT ABOUT TODAY AND KIND OF MAYBE HOW WE GOT HERE. THE PROSECUTION'S RECOMMENDATION TO DROP CHARGES SEEMS ALMOST THE OPPOSITE OF HOW STRONG THEY SAID THEIR CASE WAS IN THE BEGINNING. WHAT HAPPENED?

>> RIGHT. INITIALLY IT SEEMED LIKE AN OPEN-AND-SHUT CASE. THERE WAS CERTAINLY A TURNING POINT ON JULY 1 WHEN IT WAS REVEALED THAT THERE WERE CREDIBILITY ISSUES WITH THE MAID WHO HAS ACCUSED DOMINIQUE STRAUSS KAHN OF ATTEMPTED RAPE AND SEXUAL ASSAULT. AFTER THAT STARTED TO UNRAVEL TODAY VERY MUCH EXPECTED MOVE BY THE PROSECUTION FILING PAPERS WITH A JUDGE TO DISMISS ALL CRIMINAL CHARGES AGAINST DOMINIQUE STRAUSS KAHN. THAT INCLUDES THE ATTEMPTED RAPE. IT INCLUDES THE SEXUAL ASSAULT. IN THE PAPERS FILED IN COURT, THE PROSECUTION, LED BY A MANHATTAN DISTRICT ATTORNEY, SAID THAT IT WAS DOUBTING THE NATURE AND NUMBER OF FALSEHOODS FROM THE COMPLAINANT WHICH LED THEM TO QUESTION HER CREDIT INRY COUNTING THE ENCOUNTER THAT HAPPENED ON MAY 14. SHE CLAIMS A FORCIBLE AND NON-CONSENSUAL SEXUAL ENCOUNTER. ALSO IN THE PAPERWORK THE PROSECUTION CLAIMED THAT THE PHYSICAL FORENSIC EVIDENCE POINTED TO THE FACT THAT THERE WAS A HURRIED SEXUAL ENCOUNTER BUT INDEPENDENTLY IT DOES NOT SUBSTANTIATE THE FACT THAT HER CLAIMS THAT IT WAS NON-CONSENSUAL AND THAT IT WAS FORCIBLE. THERE WE GO. IT WAS A LONG JOURNEY THAT GOT US HERE. IT STARTED MAY 14. A JOURNEY THAT HAD DOMINIQUE STRAUSS KAHN SPENDING FOUR NIGHTS IN JAIL WHEN HE WAS DENIED BAIL. THEN HE WAS ON HOUSE ARREST SPENDING $200,000 A MONTH FOR SECURITY IN NEW YORK CITY. FREED FROM HOUSE ARREST ON JULY 1 WHEN THAT SHOCKER CAME THAT HER CREDIBILITY WAS IN QUESTION. AND HERE WE GO BACK TO COURT TOMORROW WHERE THE CHARGES SHOULD OFFICIALLY BE DROPPED.

>> THE ATTORNEYS FOR THE COMPLAINANT ALSO FILED A MOTION TODAY. THEY'RE ASKING FOR A SPECIAL PROSECUTOR. THEY CITED ABUSIVE CONFIDENCE, UNFAIR TREATMENT, BIAS AND PREJUDICE. WHEN THEY STAND IN FRONT OF THE JUDGE TOMORROW WHAT'S THE LIKELIHOOD THAT THEY GET WHAT THEY WANT?

>> EXPERTS WE TALKED TO SAY THERE'S NOT A VERY STRONG LIKELIHOOD THAT THEY WILL GET WHAT THEY WANT. THAT IS A SPECIAL PROSECUTOR IN THIS CASE. THAT IS USUALLY MADE IN CIRCUMSTANCES WHERE THERE'S A PERSONAL CONFLICT OF INTEREST WITH THE PROSECUTION. THAT DIDN'T HAPPEN IN THIS CASE BUT IT CERTAINLY IS CONSISTENT WITH KENNETH THOMPSON, THE LAWYER FOR THE COMPLAINANT'S STATEMENTS OVER THE PAST FEW WEEKS. HE'S BEEN VERY VOCAL AT CRITICIZING THE DISTRICT ATTORNEY'S OFFICE SAYING THAT THEY HAVE NOT BEEN DOING ALL THEY CAN TO DEFEND HER. IN FACT, THEY ISSUED A VERY STONG STATEMENT, HE DID, KEN THOMPSON, VERY BRIEFLY AFTER A MEETING TODAY BETWEEN HIM, HIS CLIENT AND CYRUS VANCE JR.'S OFFICE, THE PROSECUTION TEAM, IN WHICH THE PROSECUTION BRIEFED THEM ON WHAT WOULD HAPPEN IN COURT TOMORROW. THE STATEMENT FROM KENNETH THOMPSON SAYING KI RUSS VANCE HAS DENIED THE RIGHT OF A WOMAN TO GET JUSTICE IN A RAPE CASE. THIS HAS BEEN HIS STORY LINE THROUGHOUT, QUESTIONING THE MANHATTAN DISTRICT ATTORNEY. SO IT DOES NOT COME AT SURPRISE THAT HE'S REQUESTED A SPECIAL OSECUTION THOUGH IT SEEMS UNLIKELY THAT THAT WILL BE FULFILLED.

>> TAKE US BACK A BIT NOW ON HOW WE GOT HERE. IT SEEMS THE COMPLAINANT'S LAWYERS WERE ALMOST PREPARING FOR SOMETHING LIKE THIS. CATCH US UP A BIT ON THE STEPS THAT THEY TOOK SINCE DOMINIQUE STRAUSS KAHN WAS RELEASED FROM JAIL.

>> KENNETH THOMPSON ISSUED A VERY MEMORABLE GRAPHIC ACCOUNT OF WHAT HAD HAPPENED THE NIGHT OF MAY 14. AFTER THAT JULY 1 COURT HEARING. I WAS THERE AT THE COURT HEARING. IT WAS A BIG DEFEAT FOR THEM IN MANY WAYS BECAUSE HER ENTIRE CREDIBILITY WAS QUESTIONED AFTER IT WAS REVEALED THAT SHE HAD LIED TO A GRAND JURY ABOUT SEVERAL EVENTS THAT TRANSPIRED,ING INCLUDING WHAT HAPPENED AN INCONSISTENCY AFTER THE ENCOUNTER ON MAY 14 WHERE SHE ORIGINALLY TOLD A GRAND JURY THAT SHE WAS HOVERING IN THE HALLWAY AND THEN SHE TOLD HER BOSSES WHEN IT WAS REVEALED LATER THAT SHE IN FACT WENT TO ANOTHER ROOM TO CLEAN IT AND CAME BACK TO STRAUSS KAHN'S ROOM BEFORE TELLING A BOSS. INCONSISTENCIES AND FALSEHOODS THAT ARE DESCRIBED IN THE PROSECUTION'S DOCUMENTS TODAY. THAT WAS REVEALED JULY 1. KEN THOMPSON HAS BEEN VERY VOCAL SINCE THEN FOR HIS CRITICISM OF THE MANHATTAN DISTRICT ATTORNEY. IN FACT SHE MADE THE ACCUSER OF DOMINIQUE STRAUSS KAHN SEXUAL ASSAULT HAS SUED STRAUSS KAHN IN A CIVIL CASE. THAT IS IN NEW YORK STATE COURT IN THE BRONX.

>> IF THE JUDGE ACCEPTS THE PROSECUTION'S RECOMMENDATIONS TO DROP ALL THE CHARGES AGAINST STRAUSS KAHN, WHAT HAPPENS TO THE CIVIL SUIT?

>> THEY'RE UNRELATED SO THE CIVIL SUIT CONTINUES. YOU KNOW, WE'VE BEEN THINKING WITH A LOT OF EXPERTS OVER AT BLOOMBERG. IT'S BEEN REFERENCED THAT YOU CAN LOOK BACK AT THE O.J. SIMPSON CASE OF ANOTHER HIGH- PROFILE CASE WHERE A CRIMINAL JURY ACQUITTED HIM OF THE CHARGES BUT IN FACT A CIVIL JURY FOUND HIM GUILTY. THAT STILL IS A POSSIBILITY. NOW THE COMPLAINANT HAS SUED DOMINIQUE STRAUSS KAHN FOR UNSPECIFIED MONETARY DAMAGES SO CLEARLY HERE THIS IS A FINANCIAL LAWSUIT MORE SO THAN HIS FREEDOM WHICH HE SHOULD GET IF THESE CRIMINAL CASES, CRIMINAL CHARGES DO IN FACT GO AWAY AS THEY APPEAR TO BE.

>> THANKS SO MUCH FOR JOINING US.

>> THANK YOU.

>> Suarez: VIOLENCE HAS NEVER BEEN A STRANGER TO THE PEOPLE OF KARACHI, PAKISTAN'S COMMERCIAL CENTER. BUT AS IT HAS INTENSIFIED IN RECENT MONTHS, SOME CITIZENS ARE TRYING TO STEM THE TIDE. SPECIAL CORRESPONDENT FRED DE SAM LAZARO HAS A REPORT. A VERSION OF FRED'S STORY CAN BE SEEN ON THE PBS PROGRAM "RELIGION AND ETHICS NEWSWEEKLY." MILLIONS OF INDIAN MUSLIMS FLOCKED TO THE CITY. SO DID PEOPLE FROM OTHER PROVINCES OF THE NEW PAKISTAN LIKE PUN JAB AND THE NORTHWEST ALONG THE AFGHAN BORDER. MIGRATION FROM THAT TROUBLED REGION SKYROCKETED AFTER THE SOVIET INVASION OF AFGHANISTAN AND AFTER 9/11. TODAY KRAUCHY'S NEIGHBORHOOD, POLITICS AND MUCH OF ITS STRIFE HAPPEN ALONG ETHNIC LINES. IN RECENT WEEKS HUNDREDS OF PEOPLE HAVE BEEN KILLED IN ETHNIC CLASHES IN THIS MEGA CITY OF SOME 16 MILLION.

>> I THINK ALMOST ALL OF KARACHI'S PROBLEMS ARE RELATED TO THE CONFLICT IN AFGHANISTAN.

>> Reporter: ARCHITECT AND PROMINENT SOCIAL RESEARCHER ARIF HASAN SAYS DIVISIVENESS SET IN THE LATE 1970s. THAT'S WHEN PAKISTAN'S MILITARY RULER INTRODUCED STRICT ISLAMIC CONSERVATISM. IT INTENSIFIED AS PAKISTAN, WITH U.S. SUPPORT, CLOSELY ALLIED WITH THE AFGHAN MUJAHADEEN FIGHTING THE SOVIET OCCUPATION

>> IT WAS FROM THIS CITY THAT THAT WAR WAS FOUGHT, SUPPLIES,

>> Reporter: TODAY THE RIVAL POLITICAL PARTIES ARE LARGELY ETHNIC, AND THERE'S LITTLE CONSENSUS ON HOW TO SHARE POWER TO GOVERN A DIVIDED CITY. FREQUENTLY, ONE FACTION OR THE OTHER WILL CALL A STRIKE- DECLARING ITS OWN CURFEW TO SHUT DOWN THE CITY. THESE TURF BATTLES HAVE EXACTED A HUGE TOLL ON THE ECONOMY, SAYS HASAN.

>> EVERY TIME WE STRIKE OR THE CITY CLOSES DOWN, APART FROM THE AT LEAST HALF A MILLION HOUSEHOLDS DON'T HAVE ANY EARNINGS ON THAT DAY BECAUSE THEY ARE DAY WAGE EARNERS.

>> Reporter: AMID THE DEADLY CHAOS, ONE OF THE LOUDEST VOICES APPEALING FOR CALM HAS BEEN THAT OF AN ENERGETIC 84-YEAR-OLD NAMED ABDUL SATTAR EDHI. I'VE BEEN ASKING PEOPLE ONE QUESTION: WE'VE BEEN MUSLIMS FOR 1,400 YEARS. WHY DON'T WE BECOME HUMAN BEINGS? WHY HAVE WE LOST TOUCH WITH OUR HUMANITY?

>> Reporter: EDHI MOVED TO KARACHI FROM WESTERN INDIA SOON AFTER PAKISTAN'S CREATION 62 YEARS AGO. HE BEGAN AN AMBULANCE SERVICE IN THE 1950s TRYING TO SERVE A CITY THAT WAS GROWING RAPIDLY. IT NOW HAS THE LARGEST FLEET IN THE CITY-MOSTLY SIMPLE VANS WITH STRETCHER, LIGHTS AND SIREN. PARTLY BECAUSE THE COUNTRY HAS FEW SERVICES, THE EDHI FOUNDATION HAS GROWN INTO ONE OF THE LARGEST SOCIAL SERVICE AGENCIES. EDHI, WHO HAD LITTLE FORMAL EDUCATION, BOASTS THAT HIS ENTIRE TEN PLUS MILLION-DOLLAR BUDGET COMES FROM ORDINARY PAKISTANIS, ABROAD AND AT HOME. TO DEMONSTRATE, HE STOOD ON A BUSY KARACHI STREET FOR ABOUT 15 MINUTES. DOZENS OF PASSERS BY THRUST MONEY IN HIS HANDS. THE DONATIONS HELP FUND FOOD RELIEF IN NEIGHBORHOODS THAT HAVE BEEN UNDER SIEGE FOR DAYS DURING THE FIGHTING. RUMANA HUSEIN HAS WRITTEN A NEW BOOK ABOUT HER NATIVE CITY, WHERE SHE SAYS EDHI HOLDS A SPECIAL PLACE. IN WHAT SENSE DO YOU MEAN THAT?

>> IN EVERY SENSE, HE SEEMS TO BE EVERYWHERE, EVEN IF AN ANIMAL GETS HURT, A DONKEY FALLS DOWN, A CROW FALLS FROM A TREE, IT SEEMS IT IS EDHI VOLUNTEERS WHO PICK IT UP.

>> IT IS AWE AND RESPECT, NOT JUST HIM BUT ALSO FOR HIS WIFE, BILQUIS EDHI BECAUSE THEY WORK HAND IN HAND.

>> Reporter: BILQUIS EDHI OVERSEES FACILITIES THAT HOUSE ABOUT 9,000: WOMEN IN SHELTERS, CHILDREN ORPHANAGES, SCHOOLS AND THIS NURSERY FOR ABANDONED INFANTS, MOST OF THEM SEVERELY HANDICAPPED BILQUIS EDHI BEGAN WORKING AS A NURSE FOR THE FLEDGLING EDHI ORGANIZATION MORE THAN FOUR DECADES AGO. SHE ACCEPTED EDHIS MARRIAGE PROPOSAL EVEN THOUGH HE WAS MORE THAN 20 YEARS HER SENIOR. SHE SAYS SHE ADMIRED HIS DEDICATION TO SERVICE. HIS FLOWING BEARD WASN'T A LOOK SHE FAVORED, SHE ADDS, BUT IT WAS A SYMBOL OF HIS DEVOUT RELIGIOUS PRACTICE. TODAY PAKISTAN IS FAR MORE CONSERVATIVE AND BEARDS ARE COMMON BUT IN MOST CASES A FALSE SYMBOL OF PIETY, SHE SAYS.

>> ( translated ): PEOPLE HAD BEARDS BECAUSE THEY WERE PRACTICING. TODAY, THERE'S LESS PRACTICE BUT MORE BEARDS. IT IS THIS HIGH NUMBER OF NARROW-MINDED PEOPLE THAT HAVE CREATED ALL THE TROUBLE WE HAVE IN OUR COUNTRY.

>> ( translated ): WHEN THERE IS POVERTY, ILLITERACY, WHEN PEOPLE DON'T GET THEIR RIGHTS, THAT GIVES RISE TO ORGANIZATIONS LIKE THE TALIBAN AND OTHER SUCH GROUPS WERE FORMED AND IT JUST SPREADS FROM THAT.

>> Reporter: ON KARACHI'S STREETS, EDHI SAYS THERE'S GROWING DESPAIR. THESE MEN PLEADED WITH HIM TO HELP THEM GET MORE POLICE PROTECTION IN THEIR NEIGHBORHOOD. IT IS ENCOUNTERS LIKE THESE THAT EDHI SAYS PROMPTED HIM TO ASK THE COUNTRY'S TOP MILITARY LEADER TO SEND SOLDIERS IN TO RESTORE LAW AND ORDER.

>> ( translated ): MR. KIYANI, I AM APPEALING TO YOU. WHERE HAVE YOU BEEN SLEEPING?

>> Reporter: MUCH TO THE SURPRISE OF JOURNALISTS AT HIS NEWS CONFERENCE?

>> ( translated ): DO YOU WANT A DICTATOR TO COME IN, LIKE MUSHARRAF?

>> ( translated ): BROTHER, IF FOR THE TIME BEING, YOU HAVE TO SAY SALAAM TO SOMEBODY, THERE'S NO HARM. IF A CIVIL REVOLUTION COMES IN THERE BE ANARCHY AND MILLIONS WILL DIE. WHAT IS NEEDED FOR THREE TO SIX MONTHS IS SOMEBODY SHOULD COME AND CONTROL THE SITUATION.

>> ( translated ): ARE YOU INVITING MARTIAL LAW?

>> ( translated ): BROTHER TELL ME IF THERE'S A DIFFERENT ROAD.

>> Reporter: HOWEVER, OTHERS SAY PAKISTAN HAS ALREADY BEEN ON THAT MARTIAL LAW ROAD. UNTIL 2008, THIS COUNTRY WAS RULED MOSTLY BY MILITARY MEN AND AISHA TAMMY HUQ, A LAWYER AND TALK SHOW HOST, SAYS MOST PEOPLE ARE NOT READY TO ABANDON ITS FLEDGLING DEMOCRACY HOWEVER FLAWED.

>> WE DON'T WANT THESE PEOPLE TO COME BACK AND RUN THIS COUNTRY. THE MILITARY IS RESPONSIBLE FOR A LOT. THEY HAVE RUN AND CONTROLLED PAKISTAN FOR SO LONG, THE AFGHAN POLICY IS THEIRS, FOREIGN POLICY IS THEIRS; EVERYTHING IS THE MILITARY'S AND SO THEREFORE WE NEED TO ALLOW THESE TERRIBLE CIVILIANS, WHO ARE SO CORRUPT AND SO DREADFUL, WE HAVE TO ALLOW THEM A LITTLE TIME TO GET IT TOGETHER AND TO CHANGE THE WAY THINGS ARE DONE IN PAKISTAN.

>> Reporter: IT WILL BE UP TO CIVIL SOCIETY TO HOLD POLITICIANS ACCOUNTABLE, SHE SAYS, MUCH AS IT DID DURING THE RULE OF GENERAL PERVEZ MUSHARRAF. CIVIC GROUPS LED BY LAWYERS FOUGHT SUCCESSFULLY TO RESTORE JUDGES MUSHARRAF HAD DISMISSED, EVENTUALLY FORCING THE GENERAL HIMSELF OUT IN 2008. FOR HIS PART ABDUL SATTAR EDHI SAYS HE CAN ONLY HOPE THAT CHANGE COMES WITH A MINIMUM OF VIOLENCE. FOR NOW THE DEMAND FOR HIS SERVICES HAS NEVER BEEN HIGHER.

>> Suarez: FRED'S REPORTING IS A PARTNERSHIP WITH THE UNDER-TOLD STORIES PROJECT AT SAINT MARY'S UNIVERSITY IN MINNESOTA.

>> Brown: FINALLY TONIGHT: TO PRESIDENTIAL POLITICS HERE AT HOME AND ONE GROUP'S EFFORT TO UP-END THE WAY CANDIDATES FOR THE OVAL OFFICE ARE NOMINATED. JUDY WOODRUFF BRINGS US THE LATEST ATTEMPT TO PUSH AMERICA AWAY FROM THE DOMINANT TWO-PARTY SYSTEM.

>> Woodruff: NO THIRD-PARTY CANDIDATE HAS WON A U.S. PRESIDENTIAL ELECTION SINCE 1860. BUT WITH UNEMPLOYMENT STAYING HIGH, WORRIES ABOUT ANOTHER RECESSION, AND MOUNTING PUBLIC DISAPPROVAL OF DEMOCRATS AND REPUBLICANS ALIKE, COULD VOTERS BE FRUSTRATED ENOUGH WITH WASHINGTON TO UP-END THE WAY THEY SELECT THEIR PRESIDENT IN 2012? ONE NEW GROUP THINKS SO. AMERICANS-ELECT IS A NONPROFIT ORGANIZATION THAT WANTS TO CHANGE THE NOMINATING PROCESS BY HOLDING THE FIRST-EVER NON-PARTISAN POLITICAL CONVENTION IN CYBERSPACE. VOTERS CAN WEIGH IN ON THEIR TOP ISSUES AND USE AN ON-LINE VOTING SYSTEM TO NOMINATE A CANDIDATE TO PLACE ON THE PRESIDENTIAL BALLOT IN ALL 50 STATES. FOR MORE ON THE EFFORT WE'RE JOINED NOW BY ELIOT ACKERMAN, CHIEF OPERATING OFFICER FOR AMERICANS-ELECT. AND A DECORATED VETERAN OF BOTH THE AFGHANISTAN AND IRAQ WARS. AND FORMER CLINTON ADVISOR AND DEMOCRATIC POLLSTER DOUGLAS SCHOEN. HE SITS ON THE GROUP'S BOARD OF ADVISORS. GREAT TO HAVE YOU BOTH. ELIOT ACKERMAN DO YOU FIRST. OUR POLITICAL PARTIES HAVE BEEN AROUND SINCE THE BIRTH OF THE COUNTRY PRACTICALLY. WE HAVE A STABLE SYSTEM OF GOVERNMENT. WHY CIRCUMVENT THEM?

>> WHAT'S IMPORTANT TO REALIZE IS THIS ISN'T A THIRD PARTY. THIS IS A SECOND NOMINATING PROCESS. THE VISION HERE IS THAT IN NOVEMBER OF 2012 WHEN AMERICAN VOTERS GO TO THE POLL, THEY'LL BE... THERE WILL BE A THIRD TICKET THAT THEY DIRECTLY NOMINATED THEMSELVES. AMERICANS-ELECT WILL BE HOLDING THE FIRST-EVER NON-PARTISAN ON-LINE NOMINATING CONVENTION. ANY REGISTERED VOTER CAN BE A DELEGATE TO THAT CONVENTION. THE.

>> Woodruff: IT'S NOT A THIRD PARTY, YOU'RE SAYING, BUT IT'S A PROCESS THAT WOULD CIRCUMVENT THE PARTY. WHAT IS IT ABOUT THE TWO POLITICAL PARTIES THAT MAKES YOU THINK YOU CAN GET AROUND THEM?

>> WELL, IF YOU LOOK AT THE POLLS, JUDY, YOU SEE THAT THERE ARE RECORD LEVELS OF DISAPPROVAL WITH BOTH PARTIES, WITH CONGRESS, WITH INSTITUTIONS GENERALLY. WHAT WE'VE SEEN IN OUR RESEARCH IS THAT SOLID MAJORITIES OF AMERICAN PEOPLE SUPPORT THE IDEA OF AN ON-LINE NOMINATING CONVENTION AND SUPPORT THE IDEA OF OFFERING PEOPLE A CHOICE TO GIVE THEM A VOICE.

>> Woodruff: ELIOT ACKERMAN, HOW WOULD IT WORK? I MEAN, HOW DO YOU NOMINATE SOMEBODY ONLINE? HOW DOES THAT WORK?

>> WHAT WE'RE SEEING HERE IS THE OBVIOUS TECHNOLOGICAL INNOVATIONS THAT ARE OCCURRING WITH THE WEBSITE. THERE'S A REAL POLITICAL INNOVATION THAT'S OCCURRING. THIS IS THE FIRST TIME THERE WILL BE 50-STATE BALLOT ACCESS FOR A TICKET TO BE DIRECTLY NOMINATED BY THE AMERICAN PEOPLE. SO WHEN YOU COME TO AMERICANS- LEKT DOT-ORGANIZINGIN' AND BECOME A DELEGATE YOU'LL BE INTERACTING IN A PROCESS THAT IS IS FLATTENING OUR POLITICAL SYSTEM. WE'RE TAKING WHAT HAVE TRADITIONALLY BEEN THE FUNCTIONS OF THE PARTIES AND MAKE THEM THE FUNCTIONS OF THE DELEGATES. AS A DELEGATE, YOU CAN DRAFT A CANDIDATE AND HELP DEVELOP A PLATFORM OF QUESTIONS THAT THE CANNED DATE HAVE TO ANSWER. YOU CAN BE INVOLVED WITH THE DISCUSSION AND RULES SURROUNDING THE CONVENTION. TAKING PARTY FUNCTIONS AND MAKING THEM DELEGATE FUNCTIONS.

>> Woodruff: YOU'RE COLLECTING SIGNATURES IN ALL 50 STATES IN ORDER TO GET ON THE BALLOT. HOW IS THAT GOING?

>> EXTREMELY WELL. I CAN TELL YOU THAT THERE ARE I THINK 21 STATES THAT WE'RE GOING TO WORK ON THIS YEAR. 29 ALLOW US TO WORK NEXT YEAR. BUT WE'VE GOTTEN 1.6 MILLION IN CALIFORNIA WE ARE GETTING RECORD LEVELS OF RESPONSE FROM PEOPLE WHO ARE JUST FED UP, JUDY, WITH THE TWO PARTIES.

>> Woodruff: NOW I READ THAT YOU ARE HAVING TO PAY PEOPLE TO COLLECT SIGNATURES. IS THAT THE CASE? IF SO, WHY?

>> WELL, THAT'S THE WAY THINGS HAVE BEEN DONE FOR YEARS. FOCUS SPECIFICALLY ON HOW PEOPLE ARE COMING OUT. WHAT'S GOING ON IN CALIFORNIA. THE PEOPLE OF CALIFORNIA HAVE SHOWN UP IN RECORD NUMBERS FOR THIS. SO TO GIVE YOU A SENSE OF THE 1.6 MILLION SIGNATURES OUT IN CALIFORNIA, THAT'S BASICALLY 10% OF THE INDIVIDUALS WHO PARTICIPATE IN THE LAST GUBERNATORIAL RACE. IT MAKES IT THE LARGEST SIGNATURE GATHERING IN THE HISTORY OF THAT STATE. WE BELIEVE FROM ALL INDICATIONS THE HISTORY OF THE COUNTRY. THIS CAN'T BE DONE UNLESS THE PEOPLE OF CALIFORNIA WANT IT TO BE DONE. WE'RE SEEING A HUGE APPETITE FOR THIS NATIONWIDE.

>> Woodruff: ARE YOU GETTING A SENSE, DOUG, OF WHAT IT IS THAT PEOPLE WANT FROM THE CANDIDATE THAT MIGHT COME OUT OF THIS PROCESS.

>> THEY WANT A NUMBER OF THINGS. FIRST THEY WANT COMPROMISE AND CONCILIATION. THEY'RE FED UP AND FRUSTRATED WITH A PARTISAN DIVISIVENESS THAT THEY DON'T UNDERSTAND. THEY FEEL ISN'T ADDRESSING THEIR PROBLEMS. SECOND, THEY WANT A PROCESS THAT INVOLVES THEM IN PICKING A PRESIDENT. THAT'S NOT REALLY CONTROLLED BY POLITICAL LEADERS OR POLITICAL BOSSES. THIRD, THEY WANT TO UNDERSTAND THAT THE DUOPOLY THAT THE TWO MAJOR PARTIES HAVE HAD OVER THE SYSTEM, WHAT YOU CALLED IN THE INTRODUCTION QUITE RIGHTLY THE STABILITY OF THE SYSTEM IS SHAKEN UP BECAUSE IT'S NOT SOLVING OUR PROBLEMS AND NOT ADDRESSING THE NEEDS THAT THE PEOPLE FEEL.

>> Woodruff: I'VE BEEN DOING SOME READING ABOUT WHAT YOU'RE DOING. THERE IS SOME SUSPICION OUT THERE THAT THIS IS A STALL BEINGING HORSE FOR A PARTICULAR CANDIDATE. HOW DO YOU GUARANTEE TO PEOPLE WATCHING THIS AND READING ABOUT THIS THAT YOU DON'T HAVE A PARTICULAR CANDIDATE IN MIND. THIS IS TRULY OPEN.

>> IT'S ABOUT PROVIDING BALLOT ACCESS FOR A TICKET TO BE DIRECTLY NOMINATED BY THE AMERICAN PEOPLE. THAT'S ALL THAT'S GOING ON HERE. WE NEED PEOPLE TO GET INVOLVED. BECOMING A DELEGATE OF AMERICANS-ELECT IS A SERIOUS ENDEAVOR. WE HAVE THE PRESIDENT OF THE UNITED STATES SAYING HIMSELF THAT OUR POLITICS IS DYSFUNCTIONAL. THE GENIUS OF OUR COUNTRY IS THE FACT THAT THE LAST SELF-CORRECTING MEASURE WE HAVE IS THE AMERICAN PEOPLE. THE SPIRIT OF AMERICANS-ELECT IS TO GIVE THE PEOPLE THE POWER TO SELF-CORRECT OUR POLITICS.

>> Woodruff: IN TERMS OF DOING THIS ONLINE, YOUR CONVENTION WOULD BE IN CYBERSPACE IN EFFECT.

>> THAT'S RIGHT. YOU KNOW, WE'VE POLLED IT. ABOUT 25 TO 0% OF THE POTENTIAL ELIGIBLES HAVE SAID THEY'RE INTERESTED IN THE PROCESS. THEY WANT TO LEARN MORE ABOUT IT. THEY WANT TO COMMUNICATE. THEY WANT TO SHARE THEIR PREFERENCES ON ISSUES BECAUSE AS I THINK ELIOT WAS BEGINNING TO SAY WE GIVE THROUGH AMERICANS-ELECT THE CHANCE FOR PEOPLE TO BE HEARD. WHAT THEIR ISSUE PREFERENCES ARE SO THE ON-LINE PLATFORM CAN BE DEVELOPED. ULTIMATELY PEOPLE WILL HAVE A CHANCE TO PARTS... PARTICIPATE IN A CONVENTION.

>> Woodruff: ONE OTHER THING I'VE READ BY WAY OF CRITICISM IS YOU'VE NOT YET REVEALED WHO YOUR FUNDERS ARE. IS THAT CORRECT? IF SO WHY NOT.

>> THE CHOICE OF THE FUNDERS IS TO DISCLOSE. WE HOPE ALL OF THEM WILL. THE VISION IS THAT AMERICANS- ELECT WILL BE WHOLLY FUNDED BY SMALL DONATIONS ONLINE. LET'S TALK ABOUT WHAT THEY'RE FUNDING. THEY'RE FUNDING BALLOT ACCESS IN ALL 50 STATES AND THE INFRASTRUCTURE BY WAY OF A WEBSITE FOR THE AMERICAN PEOPLE TO BE ABLE TO COME AND MAKE THIS THING THEIR OWN. WE NEED THE AMERICAN PEOPLE TO JOIN AMERICANS-ELECT AND HAVE THEIR VOICE BE HEARD.

>> Woodruff: THAT'S SOMETHING YOU INTEND TO DO.

>> IT IS. THE OTHER THING IS IS THERE'S NO SPECIAL INTEREST HERE. THIS IS A PROCESS THAT OPENS UP THE PROCESS. THE DELEGATES WILL DETERMINE THE PLATFORM AND WHO THE NOMINEE IS. ANYONE WHO IS IS SUPPORTING THE ORGANIZATION IS SUPPORTING OPENNESS, NOT A SPECIAL INTEREST, NOT A CANDIDATE OR NOT A CAUSE.

>> Woodruff: WHAT HAPPENS NOW? I MEAN, YOU'RE NOW IN ALL 50 STATES. IS THAT RIGHT? RIGHT NOW TRYING TO GET ON THE BALLOT.

>> THE BALLOT ACCESS LAWS IN THIS COUNTRY AND IN MANY WAYS THEY RESTRICT US.

>> Woodruff: YOU CAN'T START UNTIL....

>> THEY'RE SOMEWHAT RANDOM. IN 29 STATES WE HAVE TO CIRCULATE IN 2011. IN THE OTHER STATES WE CAN'T CIRCULATE UNTIL 2012. WE'RE GOING AS FAST AS WE CAN POSSIBLY GO WITH ACHIEVING BALLOT ACCESS. WE'RE SEEING FOLKS COME OUT IN LARGE NUMBERS FOR IT. THOSE OPERATIONS ARE GOING ON RIGHT NOW.

>> Woodruff: LOOK ING INTO THE FALL IN THE NEXT COUPLE OF MONTHS, DOUG, WHAT WILL BE A PUBLIC INDICATION OF HOW WELL YOU'RE DOING? I MEAN, WILL YOU BE REVEALING HOW MANY PEOPLE HAVE SIGNED THE PETITION OR WHAT?

>> WELL, WE'RE GETTING A PHENOMENAL NUMBER OF HITS AND EXPRESSIONS OF INTEREST ON THE WEBSITE. THIS IS REALLY JUST STARTING. I THINK WE'VE BEEN GRATIFIED SINCE WE BEGAN COMMUNICATING PUBLICLY ABOUT WHAT WE'RE DOING WITH THE REALLY TENS OF THOUSANDS OF PEOPLE WHO HAVE REGISTERED INTEREST. WHAT WE'RE REALLY DOING, JUDY, IS GOING ON PROGRAMS LIKE THIS, TALKING TO THE AMERICAN PEOPLE IN OPEN MEETINGS AND PRIVATE DISCUSSIONS TO SHARE WHAT WE'RE DOING, WHY WE'RE DOING IT AND TO MAKE IT CLEAR THAT THERE IS A DIFFERENT WAY AND AN ALTERNATIVE APPROACH TO NOMINATING AND ELECTING A PRESIDENT.

>> Woodruff: WE'RE DELIGHTED TO HAVE YOU BOTH. WE'LL BE WATCHING YOUR PROGRESS. AS THE WEEKS AND MONTHS GO BY.

>> THANKS VERY MUCH.

>> THANKS.

>> Woodruff: THANK YOU BOTH.

>> THANK YOU, JUDY.

>> Suarez: AGAIN, THE MAJOR DEVELOPMENTS OF THE DAY: THE LIBYAN CAPITAL OF TRIPOLI WAS MOSTLY UNDER REBEL CONTROL, AND LIBYAN LEADER MOAMMAR QADDAFI'S WHEREABOUTS WERE UNKNOWN. PRESIDENT OBAMA SAID QADDAFI'S 42-YEAR REGIME IS COMING TO AN END. AND PROSECUTORS IN THE MANHATTAN DISTRICT ATTORNEY'S OFFICE FILED TO DISMISS SEXUAL ASSAULT CHARGES AGAINST DOMINQUE STRAUSS KAHN-- THE FORMER HEAD OF THE INTERNATIONAL MONETARY FUND. ON OUR WEBSITE, THERE'S MUCH MORE INCLUDING A STORY ABOUT SOME DEADLY ORGANISMS. KWAME HOLMAN EXPLAINS.

>> Holman: MILLIONS OF PEOPLE ARE EXPOSED TO THE WATERBORNE, SO-CALLED BRAIN-EATING AMOEBA, BUT ONLY A HANDFUL GET SICK AND DIE. FIND OUT ABOUT THAT ON OUR HEALTH PAGE. OUR POLITICS TEAM REPORTS ON THE CAMPAIGN STRATEGY OF GOP PRESIDENTIAL CANDIDATE AND FORMER UTAH GOVERNOR JON HUNTSMAN. PATCHWORK NATION EXAMINES HOW PEOPLE IN MILITARY COMMUNITIES ARE FIGHTING BACK AGAINST CUTS TO THE DEFENSE BUDGET PROPOSED IN THE RECENT DEBT-CEILING DEAL. AND FIND UPDATES ON THE FIGHTING IN LIBYA ON OUR WORLD PAGE. ALL THAT AND MORE IS ON OUR WEB SITE: newshour.pbs.org.

>> Brown: AND AGAIN TO OUR HONOR ROLL OF AMERICAN SERVICE PERSONNEL KILLED IN THE IRAQ AND AFGHANISTAN CONFLICTS. WE ADD THEM AS THEIR DEATHS ARE MADE OFFICIAL AND PHOTOGRAPHS BECOME AVAILABLE. HERE, IN SILENCE, ARE EIGHT MORE.

>> Brown: THAT LAST PHOTOGRAPH WAS HOSPITAL-MAN RILEY GALLINGER LONG. WHEN WE REPORTED HIS DEATH LAST WEEK, WE MISTAKENLY IDENTIFIED HIS BRANCH OF SERVICE AS THE UNITED STATES ARMY. HE SERVED IN THE U.S. NAVY. WE REGRET THE ERROR.

>> Suarez: AND THAT'S THE "NEWSHOUR" FOR TONIGHT. ON TUESDAY, WE'LL UPDATE THE REBELLION IN LIBYA. I'M RAY SUAREZ.

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