1973 Watergate Hearings; 1973-11-14; Part 3 of 3

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ms dumas no that's amnesty he was fine i can certainly think he said would be in love with the legitimacy of its non activity with the committee to re elect the president and he spent with the fact that there was a committed reluctant to you that he knew this conversation

he has stated that view there are no long but they'll invest let's say you know you and you know insert and he says you could do it was that if there is a massive carbon used the word via work with work permits and identity is complete and the estimates of the interview that elizabeth was on a walk on record on the committee

i think that there are none and it will remain that way this meeting occurred in the united states and now as the corporation you've said that you decided to be the best interests of the request that they promised the man who has to make a contribution whoa whoa people making decisions in the situation that existed

if we wanted to be treated one way and political operations were going to vigils that ever was going to be late if the region or more really at the moment jurisdiction a lot i'm

great and this is he does no service sixty one agencies government's new initiatives in this go doing your business this is thirty years ago on the question of on the increased

on boston as you know the remake of subversion you want to know how you felt that people more innovations will also for the will of the leaders of it and then just last fall upon this argument though that the only way to make contributions to pick a political party if they're going to save the earth you can't be the hoe with a lot to him

art thou are very weak there's no moderation i think that there is a coalition that has lead away from you made you made this competition and forced the companies to get the balfa waltz which you play an indication of the subsidy there's no question that he made contributions by my wall or read

this issue another former prisoner there's another great for us public television coverage of the senate watergate hearings will continue after station identification on average coverage of their hearings as being broadcast as a public service where local public television station this is pbs public broadcasting service fb

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presidential campaign activities it again and bad correspondent jim lehrer as we rejoin the hearing senator allen is once again questioning well as by the pittsburgh as the wah oh well this is not a police as a suggestion i'm a lawyer

you know why he does and you on the good i think you're out of rumors though even complained about the problem you're meeting with mississippi's and there's no fifth this is the

committee operations yes yes and to convey that corporations that there's certain things considered they ship and so at this meeting you is that though this should be about the many may make people long for this day now you have this conversation as

it was he was still in congress were then later you will live one this will be peaceful you know also i don't know i don't know that the question was so great that they would have to really something and so yeah the list on that authorities have in that condition then the fighters on the move all the time here

nebraska's create more so than not to be in ramallah they were upper and go through never give them under an arrest warrant would be rather well for now opposition public record a way to recovery that as well how are you and you

that's right something like that three percent of it went against dual sets before they start thinking about it and know when and when the state legislature also has a state income tax oh wow if he doesn't know expect it

we have so much regulation is susceptible lobby of course the people are far too making campaign contributions which weapons sales to serve without pay don't you agree that the congress to give serious consideration to make him a criminal offense or any official government power to solicit all receive a campaign contribution will write in and then in places with this morning my mom was

really on that this is an open question the secretary of commerce with the medications and make sure that when he requested campaign promise although of course and actresses witkin wesley snipes me promote the best long sleeved knew was and therefore while african american citizen has a first amendment right away within his power i think that the american businessman on tidal some protection and strikes me that moment back and ways to do maybe maybe

campaign contributions but they don't test for me of competition federal employee and that would put that protected then napoleon still more demands made by us senators and congressmen and it seems to me that we all have a low tech american business and american people against them and made people who possess servants serfs

for education and all these situations is that applicants almost no promo are inevitable but also people have to face reality is and our realities of business model of put it back in many ways this subject so much government regulation we have bridges that interview was your testimony or to most of that this morning and the central legislative purpose of this committee workers in my mind to hear your words on the lam i suppose at some point the congress will

have to consider it linked the alternative merit a continuation of the private plans presidential campaigns versus those proposals for the public financing of presidential campaigns were greatly with the comparative analysis of the two concepts rather invite your comments on private financing side saying for the sake of this interrogation that we elect to proceed with private financing of presidential campaigns in the future decide to do what we can to increase its responsiveness and improve as character one person may have like a comment on our trip from a report the whole situation here are uniquely qualified to give a subject like this is whether or not two would think they're in the mail it the proposal that would bar any contribution by anyone except a

person is a citizen an individual and i particularly audiences below or submit applications by corporations but there is no such small our guest contributions by partnerships by associations by trade routes by unions over great numbers of anger nations people way more often than not have a particular interest an internship with you tom when you talk about an actor about that where you're talking about you're talking about a provision that may very well have a relationship to legislate those same they had to limit the contributions individuals and exploded and conditions on associations are allegations if you get closer to an expression not support the electorate after all

associations neither called no or aipac go only its members obviously we have a problem here because there is a long and campaign contributions but corporations and we don't want the transgressions of members but would you care to expressing a view to me on whether that would be an improvement or not assuming that we continue with the financing of political campaigns as thirty percent of the first american company of any conclusions because of so many such a confused to want to take one action and something that we have to talk about those contributions from individuals i

contributed anything you know i don't have a conviction on their questions and certainly deserves great depression and the conditions on the house and says porter disclosure soundbite of the operation itself me personally should be permitted to be in the same position that i'm saying

there is in that operation was the us should be able to make a contribution disclosure news corp oh and that backpack oh they don't know is there some requirement in this election scheming and states that non and francesca artificial legal entity set of corporations or associations ought to be able to achieve that even though they've anticipated elected president what is the justification that shouldn't financial support the lemons things like the popular sector population that can get their franchise or people who go and the first interviews

the regulated as we think about the relative merits of liberty on the question i am not as huge brass balls you order this is many many people which mainly and handle on what law you know lucy the

circumstances a long row of us and that we should have a little bit of both of them to take care of a certain that senator public financing for a national campaign for president says my campaign for congress

and you want innovation you say at one point right i want to work the problem of a patient even though control of the cost of campaigns will cost sixty million dollars to run a campaign on the one morning i think that's a reasonable as well i mean in one way it including the contributions about which it justified or on my career the yuan into effect of origin labels what is bleak probability that such an activation would've made them made with one's channel three were kenyans sit here

morales as you describe it it was headed then after april seventh what effect would the new campaign volunteers turned out to be probably government of change for one of the other competition would still have been made after april so i will try to do of course is to see how effective it might be in the judgment of this witness understand it is speculating that it may have to speculate pretty good if we're going to come up with recommendations on your coverage we're going to break into tears ten years as a recruiter for a civil servant there's concern

that might or might not have prevented an illegal contribution but april seventh cup with june twenty first probably would have mr butcher tony ms weil is the precedent that has been established the problem has been identified by newspaper and radio television publicity and the hearings of his comedy clubs and serve as a deterrent for such contributions as well as a backer of the spectrum at one end of the table so i think solidified it here that's bob mr weiler you

mentioned that you also of made contributions to campaigns of sen jackson and congressman miller's do make these contributions of corporate funds what'd you do with the money a prayer service julie rose to fifty six no contribution limits you're making accommodations to any of the presidential candidates iowa was the money to live it which was inadvertent the committee

to re elect the president and that question is to what individuals the jugular all secretary spent less than last year's subject that's untrue well i understand that you have tunisian images dancer with respect to the second fifty thousand dollars than the average purchase our first one one there he told you that he had none of that was that corporations to contribute one hundred thousand years it would cost what he was doing today thank you

the corporation issued a press release on august tenth nineteen seventy three and i will quote from this press release there are these contributions were made in response to persistent requests go washington representative todd c while junior from representatives of the finance committee to re elect the president the company was not seeking any special favors and not have any corporate activity under government there was enormous pressure in the political system and the fact that others apparently also yielded is evidence of this this pressure was intense now was operation correct in making its devaluation of the question that was applied were we were talking really really fickle

pressure of the whole political system well how did they know about the other pleasures are not know about the question was it like you disclosing this information they do it like a statement of the pressures of my basis for their courtship their funds being used in the contribution when that the main thrust of this really have to release pressure system while only yes that as well as a question what kind of intense pressure was applied when you know there's a continuum as well as you do

they were the community as various occasions so the voice that you in other words that having been around washington but i'm going to read them as well thank you

it might have made you first so you might have wanted the indicators expect when you do owe money is listed on the records of the committee to reelect president those employees of global oil company i gather your language to use dispenser slightly different is that correct now its own were to come to you and say show me how this money was generating new in a position to do that

your name was listed under the phrase employees of oil company or was one wild and associates for univision to identify in any fashion the source of the hundred thousand dollars in a common cause of this committee or anybody else in addition to the information is this the records that were about to be a republican or republican vacated and for a company and you're named as a source of the contribution if you were male you're

welcome and mortar rounds and what i'm suggesting is this if you are not in a position to answer that question with all the inquiries that followed we were going to take place following the disclosure of this information how voluntary disclosure boy what i'm suggesting is that was anyway that in a lot of the atmosphere while put under oath in a deposition that he could explain the right about occupation now a wall along the lines of

legislation if you are the second a corporate executives testify concerning source of foreign source of these funds is there about what purpose and committing a lot of transfers of cash from foreign subsidiaries to american companies are part of big corporations with nine million dollars of revenue four hundred is going to be a lot of transfer of funds would be impossible to prevent

concept of transfers of lebanon what i'm talking about a possible legislation requiring reporting of transfers of currency above a certain amount you think that would hamper the operations of a company which he worked paul ryan is a long article that that's part of the wreckage to date for the law at all right now i gather from your testimony

that at the meeting with john mitchell there was no discussion of any possible problems the children leon is a director and mr leon was in the finance committee to reelect president can do it as well it's been it's been

there we have the testimony of two oil company executive and then obviously investor having to come before the senate watergate committee to publicly admit they violated the law their testimony however and related events certainly open up large areas of discussion and the details of the senator's table now with jim thorpe investigative reporter for the washington star news that had just such a discussion we're joined today's testimony was an intriguing account of how money was collective laundered overseas and then popped into the president's re election campaign can we expect to see some of the same sort of thing it mildly of executives of the alliance of goodyear just we have three more companies tomorrow american airlines there are ways and goodyear tire rubber copy of who according to investigators the same part of the botswana money overseas lebanese understand that it will be a surprise withers who actually did the laundry of

money in a country outside the interstate to mask manage their thousand dollar cash contribution i talked to deputy chief counselor a little while ago he indicated that as soon as i get through with these three witnesses to allow that maybe the end of this particular corporate face and his rationale was it this is all pretty typical of what was being done there's no need to just drag it down then repeat the same thing over and over again on the sheets of paper with contributors names you've been digging into long time itself is already is typical i think of the ruins have confine themselves to the combination of inquiry acknowledged until we may begin to move around one of your injuries and after thanksgiving with testimony on the two million our commitment by the dairy farmers while they made in nineteen seventy one and only three months before president nixon met with the leaders of the same industry i've been within the week the white house overruled and worship we risk of the decision to reduce

the greek government price supports that decision by various estimates that and instead their insurer met employees from one hundred and fifty million dollars to seven hundred million dollars in value to the public i was talking a bit more about this survey has been one persistent report that former treasury secretary common interest he's not scheduled to do within the week in executive session before the senate watergate committee comrades treasury secretary at the time of the trial deposition in a civil suit shows that one of the fund raisers within the industry approach conley prior to that reversal that the minimum wage increase and asked kahn was there in tripoli george shultz who was then the budget director and who had the opposing the price increase because he thought we could question within the word if it's up to get sticky enough to drag him mr connelly down in the

morass of watergate and damages future political chances it really it depends on whether the private interview with carrie kahn what is productive enough toward putting him on the witness that if he doesn't appear on the witness stand a major question about any knowledge he may have about the arrangement so with that much in campaign funds friday after the milk from the final five days ending december seventh have been set aside at least tentatively to look into that to the rebels so the howard hughes loan that is that the problem or sparkling testimony we've seen since last summer i think so too the story is there the windows all fairly richard the eight hundred thousand dollars that he received from the minister for how he's taking out loans and las vegas casino major campaign contributions to the nineteen seventy two days and then return

when the current president to win internal fight may be too embarrassing for the campaign to accept money however that the same time those who was hoping that money not competitive political the nixon campaign lives vision of indonesian and again later another one hundred thousand dollars made on public record in october of nineteen seventy two the man who dishes washing represented public relations official robert bennett the senator people finally jim levitt seems that the committee at least those who are still showing up for their hearings seemed determined as the quote mission of looking into the presidential campaigning mr nixon's campaign the question never goes beyond that i think really thinks a strict construction is also dramatic the nineteen seventy two presidential campaign and nothing else with it within that we were

instances of murders that might be in a little movie month swedish still with sales soderbergh never asked to write the five thousand dollars to my campaign landscape in the seven years that money that in the bahamas during that that none of this came from gretchen good job committing a legal operation we haven't seen senator very foreign week here that sends them to do that drugged roosters the miami river began his testimony about china buys a lot of democrats which involved readily better job involves to a gritty appointee in miami the least according to the investigation or to others like the new law center there is definitely no interest i think in getting into those outside the immediate range of present and therefore it's not that

recently examination of campaign finance john thanks very much dr twenty <unk> ok tomorrow was supposed to be caroline day with executives from random airways and american airlines testify along with the man and the goodyear tire and rubber company and will be back again with complete coverage of what they say tomorrow night once again please check with your local public television station to see the exact time of the broadcast in your area a map for our guests jim crow or a big impact on june well thank you and goodnight and piper is brought to washington in november forty tonight videotape coverage of today's hearings by the senate select committee on presidential campaign activities this program was made possible by a grant broadcasting you know i

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