The MacNeil/Lehrer NewsHour

you are good evening after a day of new warnings about the size and impact of the federal deficits president reagan says he's reluctant to raise taxes or cut defense spending to reduce the congressional economists predicted the deficits will be higher than the president estimates while the conference board certified deficits could slow down economic growth wall street had another nervous day continuing its recent fall will analyze what anxieties are driving the market down here where is off today workers in washington state another new saudi inferior negotiators say they may have a solution to the

chaos in lebanon we cover middle east development intelligence document we look at syria for horses with it a controversial policy there's news from the iran iraq war what's called a decisive battle is now underway and we conclude our series of interviews with the eight democratic presidential candidates tonight jesse jackson i'm i've spent all of my life laboring with the poem i'm kinda get the pool of the station the third world for all the front runner them are concerned the macneil lehrer newshour is funded by at and t the corporation for public broadcasting and the station and other public television stations president reagan announced this evening that the bipartisan working group to reduce the budget deficit will meet again tomorrow a group of senior reagan officials and congressional leaders has not only once since the president suggested a month ago democrats have said they wouldn't negotiate until the white house indicated the president would agree to accept

cuts in defense spending at a televised news conference tonight the president said it's time to get down the business he said he was against raising taxes the white house would listen to proposals to cut defense that he was against it in principle you dont beside to spend a certain amount of money on defense you look at what you believe is necessary to do in order to ensure national security and then you add up how much that's going to cost and the other side of these attacks that are commonly other side of the aisle on the defense spending incidentally in the figure that we submitted in his budget we ourselves the defense department undersecretary reduce their budget by sixteen billion dollars before it was submitted by taking things out that would've been worthwhile would have increased our security ability but which we believe we could do

without for a time then settled on this particular thing now if the democrats in this meeting will take place tomorrow and they're constantly talking cutting because all they talk about it as well my idea is that if they got a plan in which they can come in and say what they would eliminate in the defense budget and how much money that would then say and we can study and see what would that do to our national security how far would reduce of how far would increase the legal vulnerability are trying to close that is the way to negotiate on defense i have to believe that we've submitted a more reasonable defense budget in view of the several years decline in spending that had taken us down to the very dangerous state we weren't by nineteen eighty in the last few years before we came here there was a twenty one percent reduction in defense spending entire weapon system for cancer and

i think the war it was a safer and more secure places where for the removal of possible war at what we've done with the defense budgets that we have introduced then we've been a number of years the news conference his first full scale and since december twentieth followed a day of new warnings about the size and impact of the federal deficit and a further decline in the stock market the congressional budget office said today that the nineteen eighty five budget proposed by president reagan would result in the federal deficit of a hundred ninety two billion dollars that is twelve billion dollars higher than the president estimates the conference board an industry supported research group in new york said that sustained economic growth is not likely in the face of continuing large budget deficits while the board said the economy look good in nineteen eighty four it also warned that highly expansionary us fiscal policy and massive federal budget deficits are setting the stage for a potentially widespread economic problems as early as nineteen eighty five in washington senate finance committee chairman robert dole unveiled a plan of his own to

reduce the deficit by a hundred and two billion dollars over three years with a combination of spending cuts and tax increases slated to the national press club republican senators stress that congress must act now to reduce the deficit i know may work that of hearing about the deficits then talk about writing about dramatized in many ways but we have yet to make a problem at all i'm willing to predict today the president reagan in the congress will agree this year on deficit reduction measures that will meet or exceed the downpayment estimate of about a hundred billion dollars over the next three years a lot more oddly visionary want them back now the other benefit from a display of leadership democrats benefit by kind of a standard gag republicans benefit by demonstrating their ability to compromise without sacrificing what's the progress we've made interiors for lower taxes and for growth domestic spending

and stable economic growth about inflation but more importantly the nation will benefit non waiter from concrete action now to reagan administration officials continued to wear their differences about the impact of the deficits in a speech to the us chamber of commerce treasury secretary don regan said that the us dollar is not over value added strength is due to the remarkable performance of the american economy he said the strong dollar is neither overvalued as some have suggested nor something to be ashamed of but martin feldstein chairman of the council of economic advisors said later in an interview on the christian broadcasting network it's clear that the large budget deficits are keeping the dollar stronger than it would otherwise be the stock market closed lower today after several days of heavy losses the dow jones industrial average slipped five point one three points to close at eleven thirty four point twenty one since reaching a record high of twelve eighty six january six the stock market has fallen more than a hundred and fifty points in six weeks mentally at many analysts are

concerned that the bull market of the past eighteen months is finally winding down for more on the stock market and its anxieties we have modi gordon vice president and director of research for the dreyfus corporation a leading wall street mutual fund mr gordon what would you say is the principle concern that is driving the market right now the principal concern is they fear that on the us actions taken to reduce the deficit significantly over a period of years to give eighty six in the senate that that deficit will act to slow the economic recovery and courtly to recession in nineteen eighty five so it's directly related to the deficit sized an action on it now and that not only in the sense of the size but the growing awareness that a substantial part of that that this is being financed by foreign money coming into the united states at much that money accounts about fifty percent of the financing of the deficit that means in the league so the open question as to how well is this recovery in the event finals should elect not the whole dollars if the dollar the

dollar began continue to go dutch artist on interactivity continue to go down they might decide that the wobble relevant was and there would be a tremendous switch out of the us market that could lead to higher inflation because it would mean that because of a weaker dollar we would nearly bring imports of the prize didn't bring them in it would mean that a lot of purchasing power would focus on to the american economy and that would probably act drive prices up so visit an underlying concern is beginning to develop that the underpinnings of this recovery all vulnerable to an outflow of foreign money now concerns the fed today by the conference board warning americans were is a very prestigious group is and it probably will be to a certain extent you have to realize that also what's evolving here is a recognition that the economy is much longer than people had thought it was when the first report on the fourth quarter of nineteen eighty three came out with that report showed indication economy slowing down every indication now as the economy's moving on very rapidly that means the private sector credit the man is starting to grow the deficit meeting that businesses

are finally joining consumers in the recovery and wanting to borrow money to invest in new plants that's right and if the deficit stays at about two hundred billion dollars we don't need that in the event has to be financed and it runs against the credit the man coming from the private sector from business which is now beginning to expand that means interest rates a lot more hike interest rates will be higher is the recovery will be completely missing is the market yet millions of people and hundreds of big institutional investors is is there a sort of conclusion and the market that washington is not going to get its act together they share country when senator dole just said and isn't going to do anything about them or is it waiting is it's still uncertain know the market is sending a very clear signal from these institutions and from individuals that even says the administration and congress do something that now is the time to make movies and i'm going to get this and i thought what you're looking at is a case where it has what's the amount that single it would be the trend of the deficit

over the next two three years that would be significant and this performance by the stock market is very unusual at the beginning of a presidential election year normally normally goes for what normally would go up there to be a couple of things that would be wearing in the head of their unit one would be that would be expected that the federal reserve about the monetary policy which would be favorable to the incumbent i want them to do that when the federal reserve lowered bit ease up on the money supply and our money in this circle and keep the economy moving a law it would also act to keep interest rates down so that would mean that when the election is coming around the economy would be would be no word and thus far the income this concert what has evolved is most evocative as in the old chairman without reasonable as indicated quite clearly that the federal reserve has no intention of taking an action that has altered the whole attitude and scenario that is that investors will follow ken this market turnaround armed until there is a definite action on reducing the deficit and i like it in the modern day rally but that rally will probably have little substance

that make everything he's tried to rally a few times in the letters is it that any of it does it make all forty fifty points but it will not have substance it will not be sustainable until and unless i as an illustration you say get their act together and begin to take a specific action conversely if they do not take any decisive action will market continue to go down well yes it probably would be have definite that would buy suits have moved out of the underdog fifty basis points on the dow and you know i don't that would mark the end of a bull market at this particular if that particular it actually about forty three for organized labor the supreme court ruled today that businesses don't have to honor labor contract when they filed for bankruptcy the case involved a small new jersey company that the ruling could have a significant impact in major corporate reorganizations such as continental airlines which filed for bankruptcy last fall the court ruled

nine to nothing and businesses did not have to prove to a bankruptcy judge that they would be rolling financial like if they honored a union agreement all the business has to show the court said is that the contract would be burdensome and the best interests of the business its creditors and its employees favor canceling it a new jersey company involved isn't involved is a building supply firm builders go and build this girl declared bankruptcy in nineteen eighty and cancelled a wage increase that it negotiated with the teamsters union the company is now back in business began under another name afl sea isle president wayne kirkland reacted saying we are disappointed in the decision and we will pursue a legislative remedy a stronger reaction from william went missing on the head of the machinists union called the decision outrageous and inconsistent with the intent of the bankruptcy law and from the head of the municipal employees union and call the supreme court ruling devastating the us chamber of commerce however the reaction was more favorable

acting as a third is that i know that the union for a rod quite upset about it and i really don't fully understand their reaction because the court said that the bankruptcy court with the balance of the equity to look for the expertise on both sides of the equation in before making a determination that it was properly says the labor contract will a neutral judge in mid term mission of what's there in another decision the court ruled that interest free loans from one family member to another are subject of a federal give tax the irs estimates the ruling could mean wealthy taxpayers have to fork out another five and a half million dollars to the federal government in cases that are already pending the wealthy have often use the device of interest free loans to reduce their tax bills the ruling means that taxes will have to be paid on the interest that would have been charged had alone come from a

regular lending institution robin at his news conference tonight president reagan denied that the withdrawal of the marines from beirut airport a monster were reversed for united states policy and for his administration here's part of what he said i have no hesitation in saying that i don't regret the fact that we went in there with the idea of trying to bring peace that troubled country we are really going because once the terrorist attacks started was no way that we could really contribute to the original mission by staying there is a target just hunkering down and waiting for further attacks so the forces have been moved or redeployed ours as well as others and ours are going to be only vessels offshore but as long as there's a chance for a peaceful solution we're going to try and see if there's any contribution we can make to achieving that and i just as long as their chance exist i'm

not going to give up and say what's over and we're not budging on we're just going to more defensible position they have been one of those and that the various carrots and instead the eleven on the light at the end of the tunnel can be a train coming happens when you hear that version of them would you accept the resignation from george hill who feel have failed them no i wouldn't and he has not failed and i've seen that work and i think his disgraceful frankly i think he has done a splendid job and i have every confidence in the world ender i will beat doesn't have any thoughts about leaving this at this point the idea for the mission happen in mine a french soldier was killed in beirut today as us marines continue their evacuation to the ships offshore detention was killed another injured by mortar fire as far in between lebanese factions continue to shape the city of beirut and

surrounding mountains the reagan administration concerned that the lebanese army may not long survive as a fighting force as suspended deliveries of military equipment us official said everything's in a state of flux the army has no direction because the political situation is so fluid the associated press quoting officials said they fear the tanks and armored personnel carriers due to be delivered would fall into the hands of the shiite and druze militias which recently decimated the lebanese army all these developments occurred against a background of continued efforts to work out some peace plan that their mile government and its muslim opponents and syria can accept saudi arabian america saudi arabia mediators are reported to have secured syrian backing for a new cease fire plan which has been sent back to beirut for president allows approval is a report on today's situation from gerard willems of business marine helicopter gunship thought shortstop holding out for the marines that old faithful day us officials are not saying how many troops

have gone what we've known the hundreds have already left but they did play the bulk of the troops will pull out together almost at the last moment so far about half their equipment loaded onto the five watered every deployment to prepare to leave the fighting continued writing more on the green line the body that has made hostility when i'm out of the army and pro government regulation of holding on to the last name given to the regime their heavy artillery and small arms around the town of typhoon in the museum area and muslim militiamen have a checkpoint of militias consolidated that the vision french troops from the multi national force continue to carry out the last performance of the piece increasingly the par with the upper hand in lebanon is syria the reagan administration sees syria as the

obstacle to peace and as blame damascus for sheltering terrorists and promoting the recent factional warfare but the syrians and their supporters in lebanon see their role as quite justified as we hear in this report by amedee of the canadian broadcasting corporation set to the syrians opposite side is no ordinary hero the supporters chant with our blood been withers so we will sacrifice ourselves for you officer saw in the thirteen years since he seized power is achieved an indispensable for syria and ziad now us envoy donald rumsfeld comes to syria

saudi moroccan and french mediators or come together saddam's brutal nine day the limousine falloff think diplomats are just learning about a new force they tried to persuade the pressure to mollify often than not they come away trust in syria goes a long way as its own admired and follow in her work with victims are you the leaders in the arab world today we don't want to claim that but as metro city and now is taking the lead until now of the fastest clips of that given how

mental illnesses all that night in the back to damascus but was a thousand veterans without borders syria at the heart of their mission in syria when you get the new release is just a level two bc of how to the suns will be seventy when the city is of the center of the police much of its importance is geographical for example to the south the syrians face the israelis on the golan heights it shares borders with jordan and iraq and to the west of lebanon a country on the verge of being swallowed up by syria since nineteen seventy six at the invitation of the lebanese syria has been called a large section of lebanon now with the help of its lebanese allies that area grows daily much of lebanon is now a kind of extended syria under its control guarded by its

army this is lebanon with these soldiers or syria there are more than fifteen cents checkpoints one has to pass through the drive from damascus syrian arms go through here so the army transports caring man from one position to another this checkpoint is at the entrance to deer schreyer it's a christian village in central london but like most of the town's overlooking beirut syrian soldiers are everywhere they live here and walk around as if the town is there is rather than lebanese dear swire has a special importance is less than two kilometers from that fire the whole of asia miles from deere's wire you can look down at the streets around the president's personal headquarters you could easily pick a target the syrians are that close usually they don't allow

pictures here for us our man was kidnapped two days before we arrived there we could come and go safely because we were with these men lebanese from garish wire would like to be part of syria really is we think that there are national geographic story the nation's between lebanon and so here in brussels what's the syrian golan ian what is your goal and into the morning i'm not by force but by consent and by bedouin development like the one up and threw them on his thin respect and defend the independence of lebanon and we think the arts a number of those support us in this defense a one nation one nation what that means to syrian minister from trial is timed time on syria side unlike the israelis they're in no rush to leave

and the americans are foreign affairs shop one of these layers of whether they are staying in a hostile climate that was where we are in our brothers now i think that kind of unity work through wages for the syrians than lebanon the number of factions opposed to the lebanese government are now awaiting their campaigns that of damascus they're against gemayel's dealings with the israelis and they're all working out of damascus to get their message across damascus has become the center for the hardliners that's one of the reasons druze leader walid to like now works out of here other than from his home in lebanon when easy interviewers typically with a glass of brandy he repeats how much against this or miles neither would accept who live this down family and the voters will know what

the prices and whatever the consequences are desperate to feel do you think that syria really will help you do that doesn't seem like a budget like their assistance they have provided to run out and they don't want for some reason it would not actually my win and the giving end any indication that they would help boston i'm asking you ask them from your point of view and you felt that they'll get a nomination is action and it would stay there that's excellent relation is largely based upon military support tanks arms and rocked the syrians got from the soviets in are now selling or giving to the groups last week on one day some four hundred tons of ammunition reportedly talked to the druze front lines this was just an exercise but in

lebanon the targets are real the man who did a lot to build that army is general slices of those areas minister of defense and you know he loves movie stars and glamour he loves beautiful objects and he's an avid collector of guns his private library at home includes guest from lebanese ex president frenzy of fidel castro what is this and various moments from the israelis that were not yet his concern in lebanon is not gemayel but israel and getting lebanon firmly back in the armful for us we don't care who is sitting in the chair amin gemayel or anyone else what concerns us is first of all israel leaves lebanon without any preconditions are any restrictions for the benefit of israel this is a basic addition we've lebanon for itself to follow its own policy when there's a minority was looking for to try to sever lebanon away from the arab nations we cannot

agree to this we won't let along with him a lot closer to israel we're divorcing his real phenomenon which general class once will not be easy israeli prime minister yitzhak shamir made that clear today when he said that if lebanon canceled its nineteen eighty three withdrawal agreement with israel israel would take all necessary steps to ensure the security of its borders speaking in the engineer said he still hoped lebanon would implement the agreement the syrians are insisting be scrapped shamir said israel preferred the official lebanese force under orders from a legitimate lebanese government reform to prevent palestinian guerrillas from attacking israel alternatively israel is reportedly considering the existing christian militia founded by the late major side had that one prominent christian leader former president emil shumlin said today he would withdraw all support for the gemayel government if it's cracked the agreement with israel without arranging a syrian troop pullout as well elsewhere in the middle

east iraq said that iran launched a new attack tonight near the city of basra is the second iranian offensive in the last twenty four hours earlier today iran's that its forces surged across the iraqi border in three places and are now within ten miles of a key iraqi highway for its part iran claims that the first iranian attack was totally crushed iraq's president said then hussein went on baghdad radio today to say that a decisive battle in the three unhappy world war had begun this latest combat is part of a sharp heating up of the gulf war sparking new fears in the west about iran's repeated threats to close the strait of hormuz shutting down the route used by tankers from the oil rich gulf region our hour ms

bee the senate voted sixty three to thirty two today to restore the death penalty for the federal crimes of treason espionage murder and attempting to assassinate the president there has been no death penalty in federal law except for an airplane hijackings in which lives are lost since the supreme court struck down your capital punishment laws in nineteen seventy two the new senate bill would overcome the court's objections but there seems to be little chance that the bill will be passed by the house of representatives where fierce opposition as expected some shake downs are apparently underway in the democratic race for president in the wake of walter mondale's victory in the iowa caucuses this week former florida governor ruben ask you suggested today that he may drop out of the race if he

doesn't finish in the top four in the new hampshire primary next tuesday and john glenn who finished a surprisingly poor fit in iowa has decided to pull out of the contest in name which is holding its party caucuses a week and a half from now all the candidates are gearing up for new hampshire and today in our last in a series of interviews with the eight democrats we talked with one who has been moving up in the polls there jesse jackson has made new hampshire a test of his ability to draw boats outside the black community before we get to the interview our cameras caught up with him on the campaign trail there well in new hampshire which has only a tiny black population jackson does when a white middle class democrats like these women turn their aerobic exercise class in a little political rally you're at

and they're worried the definition of a rainbow coalition jackson often refers to lots of women hispanics and other disenfranchised people is apparently being broadened here jackson's resources are limited in new england he is spending no money for tv commercials but he's trying to make up for that with a heavy campaign schedule dating yeah

there's a contrast between the style of that softspoken jesse jackson and the one who traveled a week or so earlier to the south trying to register to vote blacks registered as is political as any other element of jackson's southern strategy wads make up as much as a quarter of the vote in the southern states the primary two weeks they could make all of the political survival after march thirty at jackson's populist appeal in the south reduces an audience reactions probably never seen in nature thank you

the reverend jackson stopped campaigning today in new hampshire are long enough to talk with charlayne hunter gault and me we first asked him about his charge at a news conference yesterday that certain members of the jewish community are persecuting him actually larger than i will discuss this in great detail because it will only make a in that letter word that i think will serve and socially useful purpose it was a masterful before i announce that so that my opening would be disrupted of course there was a disruption of people taken out of buildings or more have been hated it just run all ads in their radios in the new hampshire and in boston red backhanded for the march on my home it's a source of intimidation all to my family on this one continuous self or at a demonstration at the mother just as past week august that was back in then had to call the police ought to get out there in gloucester in those attempt to disrupt routes to come to new hampshire they'll

upi someone know from all the ged all all from the edges against just committed so that they didn't intend to how may i think his bed because jews and blacks as to first strip minorities can ill afford a big comic con a public confrontation i've kept also been about all i hope that cooler heads will prevail sometimes a real so we're going to have a meeting the cast of jewish president in the meantime i'm tend not to talk about it so as not to really exacerbate the situation would do you feel that there is a conspiracy of funds or are these just isolated incidents well when you pull on with again it looks it looks were orchestrated all i am a great attempt to discredit me to discredit my work less gridlock campaign are i cannot sell such personalities in organizations and name who either women when mike wallace interviewed me fall a system as before mouse and about twenty page document of a media campaign has been

released to stop my campaign says a lot of activity i hope that some of the hostility and antagonism to give away to a reform of dialogue can be socially useful again the great issues about they require the best resources that that blacks and jews and others of us have often we can ill afford at this time from each other as they will turn to each other and i hope that led to enable leadership will come together and assess a situation i think is getting but we are things getting dangerous but also think it's unnecessary and i really feel a cold one of the way i've been so are also upset frank about the continuous harassment at one level and my trying to reach out i'm going to let this mother runners own course leaders won't meet i think is a good thing and then cover me to be a part of it in connection with that you wrote a letter of course to vice president mondale complaining about an apparent leak from his campaign won that league accurate did you make his

state recognizing the plo the condition of your getting out of the race absolutely not as a modified go we had three or four meetings in both mostly it was about though why she should not run of what the cost would be on in terms of his fellow get the nomination i found it with our group made because maybe judgment to run away to get into in a body musician well as non south africa appeal on social justice issues are at home whatever happened and other was restrained for a private meeting all fall a legit context to surface or five months later pacific about the plo when you have a private meeting that was a discussion on the come out publicly about michigan sent us a more than its present malo that's about conversation you shed that the lake was designed you thought the furiously damage or campaign what do you think is to mondale is trying to do it well i don't know what it is he really impressed and i get our bob eckel about it

and that was said that the amish a public denial on that that was the content of our about meeting all which means that the promo of the information on that cbo said the world was false information i called back american after about less all said that sheeran says of all that private meeting that that was a bonding point it was not the bottom for that tell you that and elise is important to us but it's not central is not the central issue in my campaign and i get the impression the elbows with fabio holes in millie's agenda in a minute my campaign as innocent of them i can i let me ask about something else in <unk> mondale is your chief opponent now in new hampshire he had a lot of experience why should voters not vote for him and both films there it doesn't sounds as i revise of the clutches of this campaign about the more the poor and he has written about a head on the reagan era fahmy more people in poverty remain more children for the four million people i'm i've spent all of my live labor with the poem i'm kinda get the pool of this

nation the third whirlpool on the front runner them are college and he's not only that with a lot of pressure put on him by people otherwise all would not be rather than obama not in this campaign second that my involvement rubber this inspiration to use a new dimension of him coming into the campaign a revival of all of the wrestling about plotting i also am convinced that unless week ago another the reaction is changing presidents or not changing direction is not enough reagan has a case you know their budget has exaggerated used to be that no college within the size of this budget mr the sneeze was the mondale was to have a raised know that budget has likened author reagan's budget was obama's we need another the russian second that corporate america five of every six jobs in corporate america whether nominate be another public comment but a richer in on the private economy we must go a novel way as he seeks ocean just in case ari thank you shoreline that's not like to go a different way and ask you

now about it something and in the middle east by the end of next week us troops are supposed to be out of lebanon do you think the united states still has a role to play there yet us as a diplomatic role to play in the middle east how the military rule was ill advised six thousand syrian troops back and listen to that of american troops there about mission of the military we had too few marines are if it were suicidal we had to memorize and so that was all wrong plastic out was that number will be perceived as a neutral peacekeeping force because like sparkle involvement that's it was a bad judgment or missouri to spot in the first place now what we can lose as we are involved that the three big act as rudolph america syria and there's real mob has got religion is your political affiliations was also tell them as the salk why syria occupies its percent plus of lebanon the bill for that has occupied by about forty groups and we have the right relationship

with assad and so that some real communications the print on with him on the one hand and on the system in all the other hand will be running shares of ridding syria and is on the move back to what they'll borders wasn't directing and ability to get some little help from beirut from five malt or some formal do you think the reagan administration missed an opportunity in the wake of the goodman release there's no doubt about it a song with a record that he cherished relationship with john mccardell former president andy murray disagree with camp david he chairs the relationship audience might welcome although beloved movies in with mr reagan when love bummer also went back to syria after i left he met with us are for the first time good with the reagan took aim at least diplomatic initiative he would have a kind of report the good lord's expand our base of influence in that region and that that was unusual at the same time as that aside from talking with the side effects were in a car what else in terms of

overall us mideast policy would you do different from the reagan administration i guess when it was sent to them our problem it lays out new the regional approach not just a one nation approaches that were the mission in the middle east than ten million people we have an actress as a superpower and all of them i am to some are all the economic political a jubilant and the military will peculiar interest in his room and want to protect that interest or skeletal won the ten most relate to all of them within a village two ways one by giving is a lesser economic and military the other way is that it uses enormous stop all struggle against her and in fact overlooked trade routes when you have the genius of the camp david accords can they believe the cob is two things one in egypt a drop off from a guest is real and open up trade routes an american president at his best case pamela course involve more people and reduce tensions in the region well you've talked about having the united states have dialogue with the plo what's wrong with refusing to have dialogue with the plo

as long as the plo doesn't recognize israel's right to exit from it is going to reassess they will recognize israel's right to exist as real estate on the klan walked in fact declared war re the most urgent has been top of the plo it has been revealed and we know as exchange of prisoners a couple months ago a pro israel isn't and below have the talk was all about four thousand philistines were released six israelis were released always thought that i'm an actor james angel and that makes it even that we now mean how what would you do to change that equation well given merkel playing the role of conveying the role of rhetoric of a marketing gets gets the dot and begin the sit down the same table the murder bit almost in a modest sit at the table because of how we have the strength and they appealed to build a within us can be dealt with and what as referee within the book without the button to the top and we cannot talk diplomatically when the fighting militarily choose to talk to you

dr kahn and that point but in another country out what kind of concessions do you think the united states should make or would you make to get the russians back to the arms talks well i think that we'll have for a little initiative called the russians have a common interest is about what just as we do we no longer have the fence because the nuclear weapon scientific development will have the first week and now a white beach about we should talk fine on mutual interest and moving back to was banning the balm and not during the people begin to focus more agriculture and shriek and technology we try that look for mr malone russia's of my concern and that mostly peruvian all the maghreb is far from russia it's a russian cattle as an american farmers we need to go another way why should we on the one that's not so i mean it was a russian controlled they do so computers to south africa that's inconsistent won't let russia have first class missiles and third class computers that's a pretty broad measure security let me just ask you this do you see the soviet

threat in central america as great as the reagan administration seems to be not i think that probably it was in the season explore is a great threat that any other form of all of russian influence it will fight you that diplomatic ties i've come a day and i start the allies we are going to be able to stabilize our our neighbors in the hemisphere owners in this hemisphere next door to us it would have trouble you know i have eight communist backed regime or calming effect regimes in the region would that be a tricky thing to actually express it would be a threat because cuba's that op ed the fact is with that lesson so important you were bit of that we took the right kind of michigan i would think that we use the car the border and work through that original process as opposed to developing from gaza based also the paranoia we can affect make much more progress will ever and academic this appeal to you and i'm judith i'm concerned investment tourism campaign that was the date two thirds of the

bait when about three fourths of the world we must include african policy in startup and policy and these four balls the base all tennis was expanded you include africa and asia in the world or reverend jackson thank you for being with us very well some of the heat from the mounting political campaign was held at the white house tonight when president reagan was asked about a remark made about him by the front runner in the democratic campaign and a likely opponent in the general election the so called leadership issue it goes beyond the things that you will build these days you're intellectually lazy and you'll forget that the levees that are providing leadership miami but even i have i have an incumbent to make it that if that's all he has to talk about out there on the trail whose audiences why let him go i'm gonna be talking about the things we are doing and the things we intend to do and

what we intend to do is be over the kind of a future that this country and the people of this country have always won and we're going to try to get that well obviously there's no one is talking about now two stories about the environment canada made a formal diplomatic protest today against the reagan administration's plan to delay action on preventing acid rain the canadian ambassador to washington delivered an oath to the state department saying that the united states is shirking its treaty obligations to canada and ottawa finds the delay an acceptable and the national education association said it will ask the environmental protection agency to require removal of asbestos from the nation's public schools or measures to protect pupils and teachers from the health hazards as fast as fibers are known to cause lung disorders including cancer of the present epa will require school officials only to report any health

hazards that are found at fb let's return to this week's book review the author is new york times columnist tom wicker the book is an historical novel set in the civil war titled and to this hour our reviewer is critic and novelist does this is an historical novel would you

describe the setting force well it's about today's that involved the battle of the second manassas just south of bull run and for the south of washington in the year eighteen sixty two from early morning of august twenty eight to the end of august thirtieth a battle which the south one is it there was a as a microcosm result across a very broad characters ostensibly it's a microcosm ostensibly is those it is that small small of time but actually the implications of a very broad and has as weaker himself says that men and women and events haven't changed in so you can read it as a novel of war on what he calls the commonality and how does agree just as well as fiction i think it's a frustration all it's an eminently readable despite for you again

difficult form which is sections paragraphs which give a little bit of one soldier or one general or one onlookers view and then breaks to the next and that is a little disconcerting since there are hundreds access an exaggeration of their many characters but they're so well dawn each one that you remember them from great great as a piece of history does it add to the knowledge and understanding of the bottle i don't think he would claim that i think he would claim that by looking at a great many people including an invented general and invented privates and then religion tells me isn't stonewall jackson's in john paul the union leaders in that by looking at these persons very closely you see something about history that you might not see if you read along book about the war in which this was just a single event tom

wicker is one of the country's best known leading journalists is this a journalist but as it is it's clearly a journalist is writing as well i think that's a complement to say the novel like this is a journalist's novel because it has two elements it has the elements of accuracy and you trust it from the very start the factual trust and it has an inventive imaginative element which rises out of the fact that he knows the fact so well that he feels he can play with them a bit in terms of invented characters so yes it's a journalist's novel which moves from knowledge into imagination and does its july what i liked was the fact that it explores within the context of war for subjects of love every kind of the love the

soldiers have for each other under great stress in one case the touching and most believable love that a young very rough corporal has four young private totally innocent incentives to love that in general invented general hope cornell has for his wife amy the passion that a very cultivated chat from friends who has been in france a captain has four rough lowdown southern girl whom he spends a night despite the hate that exists in war the book is suffused with love burst of our country once again the book were discussing is tom workers and to this hour published by viking this is just it david a twelve year old bubble boy who spent most of his life in a sterile environment because he had no immunity to disease died tonight at a hospital in houston it was removed from

a plastic bubble and fabrice sevens after a bone marrow transplant and began to show signs of illness is death was attributed to heart failure and his doctor said the cause of the heart failure is unknown david's real name and the names of his parents were never disclosed however the hospital said the mother and father and david's fifteen year old sister were with him when he died now reviewing the main stories at a news conference tonight president reagan said his defense budget is necessary for national security and the challenge the democrats to say what they would cut out he said once again he's against raising taxes but declared it's time for both parties to get down to business and dealing with the federal deficit he said he had no regrets about his policy in the middle east and turned aside criticism about secretary of state shultz as record their eleven and the french soldier was killed while the marines' continued moving from beirut airport as ships off shore and canada formally complained to washington about the delay in taking steps to combat acid rain finally an item of no importance whatsoever for several weeks the small

town of port coburn ontario near the us border was bothered by us wearing raven it flew around the shopping center distressing the customers with its bad language and the boat disappeared now it's turned up just across the us border in the town of bach or new york and disrupted work at a local school someone taught the bird to utter what was described as a common two word directive speculation that it was part of kennedy's message to washington on acid rain could not be confirmed in nigeria that deny robin that the newshour for tonight i'm judy woodruff thank you and goodnight the macneil lehrer newshour is funded by at and t reaching out in new directions the corporation for public broadcasting and the station and other public television stations or maybe

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