The NewsHour with Jim Lehrer

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fbi life i am at an evening i'm jim lehrer on the newshour tonight congressman armey and wrangle debate the president's veto of the estate tax repeal way an excerpt from gore and bush campaign speeches for the semis role in elizabeth warren's words explore the role of religion in resolving political and international conflicts and essayist ann taylor fleming texas on a photographic tour of paris and all follows a summer in the news this thursday opening the borders this program was also made possible by the corporation for public broadcasting

and by contributions to pbs stations from viewers like you thank you twenty six more traffic deaths were linked to day to recall the firestone tires a spokesman for the national highway traffic safety administration said it now has reports of at eight fatalities more than two hundred and fifty injuries are also tied to the tires failing they were standard equipment on some ford models ford ceo jack nasser said today he would not testify before congress next week he had earlier declined that invitation president candidate veto a bill repealing the federal estate tax republicans and said farmers and business owners need relief from the tax but the president said the bill mostly helped a small percentage of the wealthiest americans and he said it would harm efforts to pay off the national debt this bill is raul it is wrong on grounds of fairness it is wrong on grounds of fiscal

responsibility it shows a sense of priorities that i believe got us in trouble in the first place in the nineteen eighties and that if we go back to those priorities will get us in trouble again and the presidential campaign today vice president gore and senator lieberman made their case for a patient's bill of rights they were campaigning in seattle they said life and death decisions have to be taken away from help maintenance organizations and given back to doctors governor george w bush said today the vice president had failed to lead on health care he said candidates clinton and more nations of prescription drugs and medicare in nineteen ninety two and he said they gave seven years of flowery speeches bush spoke to reporters on his campaign plane he also visited schools in ohio and kentucky touting his forty seven billion dollar education class well as excerpts from today speeches by bush and gore later right after this news summary teenage drug use fell last year for the second year overall the news came today from the secretary of health and human services donna

shalala nine percent of the teams question in the latest federal survey said they had used an illegal drug in the previous month that was down from eleven point four percent in nineteen ninety seven shalala spoke at a news conference in washington this year's survey definitely shows that not only turned the corner were actually headed for home this is a statistically significant decline more of our young people are obviously getting the message that drugs are not the seventeenth with the stuff of nightmares they're actually getting the message but they're also changing their behavior which is what these statistics reveal the survey also found drug use among eighteen to twenty five year olds continue to rise she later said colleges need to target that group with anti drug efforts and that's it for the newshour tonight now it's on to bush and gore speeches religion and conflict and an unfair fleming essay now another in our ongoing series of stump

speeches by the leading presidential candidates first republican george w bush speaking today at springfield high school in holland ohio i tend to close the achievement gap and america focusing on principles that we're focusing on solid principles that will support our public education system all around america we must insist upon accountability and were to measure schools work i work with states and local jurisdictions to develop strong accountability systems in return for receiving federal money will work with local jurisdictions to make sure that we measure reid made no sense a national test i don't think one size fits all i don't wannabe the federal superintendent of schools and i feel like we're a focus on basic education on exports were retrained teachers you don't know how to teach reading replicated diagnostic tools as a way to figure out whether a county not only in their life word about money or extra intensive reading academy's no

job no child to be shuffled through the systems in america they can re reading is key to success and really has to be a fundamental part of education reform we must support our teachers with more money to train and recruit new teachers we must expand the loan forgiveness for math and science majors who teach in high needs schools and we must provide tax deductions for teachers who are forced to buy their own supplies to measure their classrooms are well sir and schools and remote character education in our classrooms when the social workers accountable for school safety require zero tolerance policies for violent or disrupt a beggar on our classrooms when the seventy three protection act in america one that steals teachers and

principals from the frivolous civil federal lawsuits that way can make it harder to enforce discipline across america are working triple the amount of money available for character education expand their after school programs that will occur theobald of faith based programs and charitable organizations all aimed at teaching children that they're perfectly right role oh way and mentoring children that says somebody cares for you somebody loves instance eighty six we must end current educational entrepreneurship to flourish we must welcome innovation and welcome change of support charter school loans i believe we are expanding education savings account for prayer for about a hundred hours

the five thousand dollars per year in higher education but there's never gave it well i believe will make your i believe we are less than thackeray prepaid college tuition savings plans and oddly we encourage states to provide merit scholarships to students who take the rigorous courses in high school are these proposals are being proposed buying and making sure every cell at the chance to access the american dream says american dream should be limited to a few i believe on her own business a gonna raise a family in a private and safe neighborhood to grow up in a place where values at auction the limit you a few and i'll be available for everyone we are here with say was serving optional in america if you were a car if you made the right choice is the american drying is available for you and a good education

system a public school system that robust and strong based upon high standards of local control of schools strong accountability will help this great country achieve that drain now the democrats' vice president gore and his running mate joe lieberman attended a rally in seattle this afternoon all across the country this way we've been talking about health care what the huge low end we've been focused on now we can extend the life of medicare and make sure that it's drawing in and healthy and prosperous as the population of recipients doubles over the next few decades we've been talking about how we can expand health care that every single person in this country starting with the commitment to get healthcare that every child within the next four years would cover our children thousand five we've been talking about how we can double the research

budget because we need to strike while the arkansas when the genome has been completed and new research is opening up the possibility of a cure for diabetes at of that same great idea dates a cure for cancer we need to really get busy and get the researchers the funding that that they made i thought to a nurse in in eugene oregon who told me about her patients in the nursing all including one elderly gentleman that she cared for who she told me walk with a walker and actually if he could afford is pain medication he wouldn't have to walk with a walker but he had other medication that he needed a day or other ailments and he couldn't afford the vioxx that would make him pain free with his arthritis and so as a result he had to use a walker what this as just said this is the generation that won world war two and brought us through the russian what we do

and make and then choose between food and medicine we need a prescription drug benefit under the medicare program we need new competition to bring down the price of medicine for all of our family and i don't care if the big drug companies are fighting against the league the people of this country can have a prescription drug benefit it were willing to fight for in this election campaign end this is a time when we can make great advances not only because of the breakthroughs in science but also of applause we got a stronger economy than we had in the bath our opponents have been trying to tell the country that where we're solve the day then we were eight years ago but i don't think so because we've got a lot of problems that need to be addressed but eight years ago there were many more i remember you the deficits were three hundred billion dollars a year are

dead quadrupled unemployment was why we have repeat recessions and thanks to you for giving the one in me a chance to bring a new economic policy to our country in the last eight years we turned the biggest deficit and the biggest art lessons instead of a triple dip recession we've seen a tripling of the stock market instead of a high unemployment we got twenty two million new jobs and the strongest economy in the joint and twenty four year history of the united states of america but i'm not satisfied you as the opponent you and raise all families not just a few we've got to invest in education health eric middle class tax cuts retirement security we have got to fight to make sure that everybody participates in the prosperity that nobody

is left behind that is why we're out here trying to well parents and strengthen families and improve the health care system at the same time this election is not an award for past performance i'm not asking for your vote on the basis of the economy we have i'm asking for your support on the basis of the stronger fairer better economy that we're going to create during mandatory are still to come on the newshour tonight religion and conflicts in a visit the parks an eighteen hour two part look at religion and conflict we begin with a report from rwanda that was originally prepared for the public television series religion and ethics newsweekly the correspondents for the same was a row of twin cities public television the catholic church has long been one of rwanda's most powerful

institutions it was brought by german and belgian colonists this landlocked nation and maintenance walk about two thirds of the country's eight million citizens and because it was the church for both hutu and tutsi church building served as safe havens through decades of social unrest between rwanda's two rival ethnic groups that changed in april nineteen ninety four are tutsis once again sought refuge in churches like this one in into rama gorged on by the most people to soldiers and there's a beautiful city thirty that the soldiers who were here to ensure people's safety told them to gather in the church so that they could guard them turned out to be a trap to just make it easier for them to be killed he he'd been doing then seal new have assumed he lost her husband and seventeen relatives who were in the church when militiamen who are grenades into it then they shot anyone who tried to escape entire families perished and most remain in the church

displayed in a stunning grizzly memorial to go free month ordeal while others have claimed an estimated eight hundred thousand lights one tenth of wanders entire population perhaps a half of its tutsi minority six years into various coexistence still thought was our focus this time seeking spiritual considered physical with you but the religious landscape would you have changed considerably now many dozens of the new so called charismatic churches have moved across rwanda many funded by european and north american sponsored there are an estimated three hundred thousand seven the adventists wanders the district just came about four hundred thousand members of a title since ninety nine he bought

twenty nine year old pastor paul it was a tutsi again this church nearly one year ago today he draws about seven thousand whose yes to congregants sunday service last about four hours in kigali business district a daily lunch hour prayer services packed to capacity like other upstart colleagues have triple a hearty says his worship services are attracting large numbers of convert from catholicism i can say that when lazy and then it is not that iraq and where they can get the message that then he had people just look at it to see only conditional believes that you got more importantly pastor but hardy says new churches but as a bringing together

in twos and tutsis were shipping side by side helping heal a nation whose ethnic division brutal hutu and tutsi of indistinguishable and physical features language or religion although there had always been a colonial belgian government decide to make these people usually categorized the continued to seat and tried unsuccessfully to draw art social distinctions between the two according to at one point as a series with tina collins independent of all he would be eclipsed it with youthfulness them to go to do with it which was very funny actually ended up giving one another matter too because the us doesn't have close intimate on the community because he has closely with it was empty but i think that was and what it used to be many historians a far more critical they say the

creation of the tutsi elite which enjoys here are education jobs privileges bred resentment among the majority to the civil war began early nineties women who wonders hooton president died in a suspicious plane crash in nineteen ninety four there was a poll out for blood the killers were allowed to take the victims belongings victims were easy to spot i don't go to ethnically mocked so they would put two remain utterly not this one has been changed because you've really put your name and down here they would deport ethnic so they look at it didn't care that if the new portraits in the field to do with it through and it tells us about a tree that's what the genocide was so easy and so efficient what is not easy to day and a major obstacle to reconciliation is the problem of bringing justice to the perpetrators of eight hundred thousand workers nationwide about one hundred twenty thousand suspects are awaiting

trial in a country whose judicial system was also destroyed by the genocide giving them due process could take hundreds of years so the government's considering it expedited system that would parole or severely shortened sentences of all about the worst violators that's raised concerns about vengeance and a renewed cycle of violence reconciliation is the most urgent need in this virtually hungry nation and it is mostly being sought in the new churches churchill in prayer like this women's group suddenly cai tessie says the fellowship has helped her cope with the loss of her husband and four of her five children ten years after the genocide i really felt against god i did not want to hear about it anymore but coming to these retreats allows me to feel again the love of god to see that what happened to me was not the work of god but the work of comanche images of a man than this experts say the smaller fellowships and support groups may be more

therapeutic than reading some foreigners and one reason why many like i had to seek have left the larger more traditional catholic church others are alleged to have like a city of the genocide at driving people away we should await is undefeated but don't we do more than that of the defense and that the right to cut the thirties or is this awkward churches for their part want us catholic leaders admit that many of their number including some priests likely were accomplices of the genocide and many more male to speak out and see it in syndication some priests yes you got this but father augustine cut case he adds many priests were powerless to stop the genocide and many themselves became victims in his own backyard the

gullies jazz with center more than a dozen people were murdered iraqis he's concerned by the finger pointing at the catholic church or old city should fed didn't expect sports university i mean torture is not an actor i'm disturbed by this kind of work ethic it would fit this weekend barricades he says here's something to maybe raising false hopes for a quick fix reconciliation will be a long and complex process he says that will take a sustained social and economic rebuilding want as one of the world's poorest most crowded nation's eight million people occupy a land smaller than the state of maryland seventy percent of them lived below the poverty line regardless of the rivalries between the older established churches and emerging new ones it seems certain that won a

record that stretches at least has to last this time no elizabeth farnsworth has part two of our religion report more than one thousand salamis chieftains rabbis priests months ministers and lay people gathered in new york this week to attend what was billed as the millennium world peace summit organizers said the meeting was a response to a call from un secretary general kofi annan and the summit was held at the united nations though it wasn't a un sponsored event it was funded largely by ted turner's un foundation religious leaders some of them from areas in conflict spent four days of rain and cheese poverty and the environment the summit stated goal was to build an interfaith allied to the united nations and its quest for peace

one important person was absent the dalai lama the exiled spiritual leader of tibetan buddhist and winner of the nineteen eighty nine nobel peace prize he was not invited to the main event because of opposition from china his absence arguments and protests at the summit today the final day of the gathering the religious leaders signed a declaration of commitment to global peace and said they would next establish a religious counsel to advise the united nations on preventing in settling disputes for more we turn now to the secretary general of the summit bar when jane he's a founder of the world movement for nonviolence and we turn to rabbi mark open who teaches at the fletcher school of law and diplomacy at tufts university and she wrote between even an armageddon the future of world religions violence and peacemaking and jean jean bethke elshtain and a professor of social and political ethics

at the university of chicago by when jane you've worked for two years putting together this summit what did it accomplish in your view i think there have been some fundamental breakthrough is especially you know the united nations' a political body what was stymied than ever to get through that and being religious leadership at the center of it i think it was beyond anybody's expectation believe they were burned out i believe one hour thousand religious leaders blasted billy mitchell report or two thousand people from other part a hundred countries and that the human soul the biggest ones are just phenomenal and the un was quite get excited the second was quite a warrant and they really ratcheted us building and these villages get as rep support the look and the mission of the united nations so that's a fundamental breakthrough second is that the religious leaders were gathered here have gathered here from across the work many of them participating in his major indices gatherings for the first time made and you saw these faces for the first time included not know each other before and the

second part of this is that doubt five of us die now because being a lot of the dispute is from the zones of conflict from the engineers and a second bigger than the deliberative together and they made a lot of progress to see on the good conduct themselves differently second reason alton as bishop he's annoyed mr jenkins you give us a specific example of a meeting in which people from the area's in complex act together and how your son that could help resolve the conflict yesterday the session forgiveness and reconciliation that existed as all sat there from the middle east was jewish and islamic leaders and i were on board at the end of the book the jewish and the islamic leaders apologize for the media conduct in the bass and saw reagan's that second side and see how they need to conduct themselves that was one instance that the employer doesn't need us on the christian community in the hindu community was separated on the all one issue of

promotion of boston of the nation and about twenty percent of this evening and richard just to be a show ms jenkins the absence of the dalai lama and the success of the senate well i think that has been the main debate on this issue rumbling it began the process they were clearly informed of the sensitivity toward the political and a physical sensitive within the un and the constraints that off and i consulted his illness last the moment i met him in his eyes on this issue and he said to me that it's a unique opportunity and a summit must have a nose in constant communication visitors and biden have known as ominous and so the young child and that the fundamental between this is for the first time a prisoner of the tibetan buddhism was in the united nations in the general assembly hall sharing a prayer from the traditional printing it and then the senior the budget and senate budget shiver message from britain was an uneven then a message from the myth about even though i must say the chinese delegation for best at this or that bach to me there was a lot of pressure from the us administration as you

know on this issue and about a horrible critical prevented me anyhow needless so i was getting their one side of the second of the office of the un sen helms and liam bussell horrible and the us and the chinese and i have to confess to you that they're nearly the chinese begin to incorporate a lot you know the collision of a strong i have to question them that this is the summit all these ordinances pitch in it is and i like to see the cooperation that had not made this a major issue they wanted me to block the message of this ominous and i asked them to please be considered ago the message was a one of love respect and tolerance other religious leaders can open book to international fame book and the chinese ability then to learn that and even though they were not happy but they didn't understand what my position and then incorporated so major breakthrough had been accomplished in this jean bethke that kiosk and how do you see that issue in how you see the senate as a whole will no one would be central asia's to suggest it's not a good idea for people to

get together and talk but i think it's important to you and to introduce a note of some skepticism into this discussion that is the statements that emerge for meetings of this or often couched to level a generality absent specifics it's very difficult to know how this will translate on the ground it's also less than clear how the representatives from the different nations were chosen for example in the case of a chinese there were representatives from five i believe major faith traditions that there is no religious liberty in china so who in fact are these people speak and by how far another issue is the issue of religious autonomy itself it purses religious are working under the aegis of a political organization which the united nations years what exactly does that mean what precisely is the relationship i think that there again it's good to talk by the statements that have come matter very very gentle very vague and we know that on the ground the issues in which religion is a part of conflict intersects with so many other issues with issues that have no

nationalism with economic conflict it's often very difficult to single out the religious dimension and say that's it and that somehow a statement emerging for a meeting in new york is going to make a difference i seems to mar unlikely it's a way to see situations rabbi go go and i know that she wore a participant or at least an observer at the summit what you think of that and what did you see that even gives you hope war which makes you skeptical well i think that it showed that the summit really encapsulated a lot of the challenges and wonderful opportunities of integrating conflict resolution work and religious communities religious communities are not that much different from regular diplomatic communities their opportunities and their problems their theological possibilities for moving millions of people in the direction towards peace making and reconciliation and then there are theological possibilities towards violence and this is what we saw in rwanda for example in your segment where the end the genocide catholic

churches were used as a part of a genocide and in fact in catholic schools before the genocide a lot of races and have been taught and yet at the same time the possibilities of deep reconciliation after the genocide come uniquely from a lot of religious sensibility religious community and we saw some of the same challenges and the song that a lot of a lot of conflict and also a lot of dreaming and possibility a lot of leaders who for the first time to become part of the process of peace building across the world that's very that's very significant in my mind you know they're specifically there were rabbi friend of mine amount of work in order to bring together the hindu and christian communities at the conference about the issue of price of his and which in my in my research is one of the single greatest dangers to the future in terms of the monotheistic traditions being able to face the limitations an alcove of brussels isn't he can you know be more specific what kind of heroic were cleaning that way back together a group of people who were

agreed on a i joined christian hindu state and between leaders of both communities on and an end to any kind of manipulative prices is a conversion on the indian subcontinent on the part of christians and it certainly doesn't include those christians who probably were doing the bulk of that however it new once the image of christians for the for the hindu leadership and it made them realize that there are a broad range of christians is a broad range of possibilities theologically an n n n n into personally between these two very large global communities i think that's i think that's constructive and as far as what professor alice thing said i totally agree with her but the ground is really what matters but on the other hand in my research indicates that leaders have enormous power by single words that the user to not use in terms of peace violence and conflict and you of the other and if we can move some of these leaders to integrate a

sense of the other that is honorable the other religion even when it's an enemy that will be an enormous impact in key places like the middle east that's exactly what some of my friends are working on right now in terms of the jewish islamic relationship and its future which is going to change there's a danger in and i know that you got a lot of questions about this that when you put religious and religious people and political people together which is what you're trying to do with the un you stir up an even more explosive next some people would say to you the mix of religion and politics is what caused a lot of these problems how do you respond to that oh i think that we have to do this in the context of the realities and the moniker i was questioned or disability civil than cut a ken duberstein going on and in the end the decision to bring on another that's where a border a word you'd think only thing this and succeed i got a quite honestly about the contest that it will not succeed and she said why i said

i think that his duty to sit on the discussion to go there is because of the ones who have access to the grassroots they'll want to be the hearts of people they get back the public awareness and they can help heal the communities have them understand what the political coalitions are pretty good that it has to ship in the political process and then the court have solutions otherwise known as a submission and to my mind most of the was published in some negatives and formal some faith tradition each of the political leaders the business in both bills of one a severe condition faith and the region is deeply imbedded in ours i don't think you can ever be a submission and it seemed to me the conflicts have been exacerbated there are so many conflicts and the lawyer this unethical his defenses yet by the many men didn't startle you and the human intimate independent media they cannot because it's a component situation so how would the big percentage of the gene demby that before that nothing if begins every structure support system and at their full cooperation between the political and religious the neutral venue being the

united nations i believe it would be a results are transforming a conflict situations mbeki ocean what you think about that region is a breach well i think the road is certainly their friends and fans in which religion is a bridge that is terribly important i'd say keep in mind that religion isn't a time as for its airtime is a religion can work with the politics there are times when religion has to be entirely independent of political definition political control and one of the reasons in certain areas the religion has in fact worked to ease conflicts is precisely because religious leaders were not identified with political bodies of any kind for example if you look at the situation in northern ireland and the decades of work that religious leaders stand together as religious leaders working with their communities that helped to lead to the good friday agreement but he did so only because they were seen as independent dealing with their communities and not a spokesman for a political by your political entity of

any kind some one worry would be maintaining a walk in the same time the independents of these communities even as they enter player are mingled with the political body by the united nations or any other radical than we just have a little time when eu where do you stand on that i i think the middle east is a perfect example of where had we from the beginning of the peace process included the religious communities on both sides we would not have had the media the disasters we've had since the peace process began these communities must be part of the solution we don't give away states we don't give away the the central focus on creating civil society with human rights and civil guarantees freedom of religion however their inclusion in these prices is critical they're not becoming part of future and not part of the problem and that's what we're seeing on both sides the political spectrum from the israelis to the iraq to the palestinian community so there we see where where we're very close to

the opportunity to have a comprehensive peace of all the people involved well thank you all three very much thank you it's been now calling home and begins her look at the day's states next week republican congressional leaders rolled out a tractor last week and a montana farmer to drive it to deliver their estate tax repeal to the white house family farmers they claim would benefit greatly from the repeal today president clinton had his own take on the symbolism i believe that this latest the state tax bill is another example where congress comes out with something that sounds good and looked real good cover them straight on a cracker but if you know if you look at the merits it basically would take a softer path that has brought us to this point over the last two years mr clinton kept his long standing promise to veto the bill congress passed earlier this session

largely with republican votes it would have eliminated the estate tax over ten years out across the one hundred five billion dollars apparently is levied at escalating rates of up to fifty five percent on estates valued at more than six hundred fifty thousand dollars it generates about thirty billion dollars a year in federal revenue and this particular bill is wrong for our families and wrong for our future it fails the test of the future both on grounds of fairness and fiscal responsibility and i just liked him to lay out the facts and win greater detail the cost of their bill is a hundred billion dollars over ten years that sounds in the context of a two trillion dollar surplus in my son was not much but to get it than two hundred trillion they have to ever so gradually phases in the second ten years on all the baby boomers retire and we need as much money as we can social security and medicare and keep the burden of the revolution time and all the rest of the the

real cost of the bill appears at seven hundred and fifty billion dollars congress rejected a democratic alternative that would have eliminated the tax on estates worth up to a million dollars and even though several dozen democrats supported the republican bill it did not get a sufficient number of votes to override today's veto last year the republicans passed a huge tax bill in one quick shot and it was like a cannonball it was too heavy to fly and so it went away but they're still committed to in fact be an even bigger version of the bill that i vetoed twice this year they have a strategy that in ways more clever it's like a snowball in every piece of that sounds good but wanna keep rolling it just gets bigger and bigger barrier and it less so most often the snowball will turn into an avalanche and you have the

same impact you had before today a few months ago this bill suffered the inevitable flake of snow will in august now reaction from two leading members of congress dick armey republican texas the house majority leader and trautwein of new york the ranking democrat on the house ways and means committee covers money did the president do the wrong thing today or he didn't have to say probably the most unfair aspect of the tax code it affects a lot of families effects an awful lot of jobs you know when you have to sell it this is because said that'd that it's not just the family and all that sons and daughters and other relatives what is the jobs that go with that this is a this is a right thing to do sixty five democrats in the house agree to a basket to douse presidential decided we should add that tax relief especially when you're a nice we've already paid out three hundred and fifty billion dollars in debt never before has that been done so this is a very

small break for the taxpayers that provided us to their industry the means to pay down that debt what about the president's point on fairness that only affects and helps a very small percentage of the wealthiest americans or is wrong if i got a small shop biker and it employs thirty forty people and i die and my kids that shutdown shop and sell it to pay uncle sam owes thirty or forty thirty or forty people lose their jobs and the fact the matter is still overall even overwhelmed with reports that our report is very simple she built her a statement that their tax dollars now and she does the government takes sixty percent of the way from her children or grandchildren or rule for whomever she might leave that it's just wrong to take a family's legacy away from the family's children and make and break up a business that the family spent a lifetime trying to your put together or hold together or what about that why should why should the government take

one day a person has made over a lifetime well i know that the republican party recently is stretching for diversity i did not know that was the army would go to extreme and having hope won't be the tax expert for the republican majority in the house but his family should know that the democratic alternative to kiev or small businesses and all the family farmers and that's only a small percentage of the two percent of the american people that are eligible for estate taxes but i make it clear this is a plot of a veto strategy that the republicans have had over the years from the very very stern they passed a trillion dollar tax cut that was leno now they coming back and every time we agree with them whether it's marriage penalty them in the ways they take it up a notch right now the pa christie's involve arrest list already only one has revealed a full repeal take effect it takes effect ten years from now and and what does of course after that fifty billion

dollars a year and to take in consideration social security medicare we're spending money that we don't even have yet let him of turnout in a response arise as it doesn't affect the handful of people and they're mostly rich and not deserve it and then he says it cost fifty billion dollars in iraq wouldn't be so little one and charlie and so began the other nice if they'd just begun a two sides of the same output we had a german tv ad says i speak with a couple here that you have a factual matters its role to steal a family's legacy we want a red pepper all families just because it's gone just given the apples the creativity of the american people give enough all of this means the paid up in and fifty billion dollars in there and charlie wranglers voted against every tax reduction we put on the floor if that the fundamental fact very simple than the republicans one update on that and give a little bit back and tax reduction and charlie rangel in that department democrats on

all that money spent on newly government program our lives they arrest a government spending spree pilot stay on on on this date that specifically person rankle explain from your philosophical point we've heard from carson army he said it just is unfair everybody should be treated the simon director with you or that they're the same tax rules should apply about inheritance explain the philosophy the other way even if he was right and he has been consistently long the question would be could we afford the type of relief that he is suggesting in the repeal but the truth of the matter is that we our responsibility for social security are responsible to medicare a responsibility to pay down the national debt to provide for affordable drugs if he is going to spend money and that we don't have exact exclusion of doing these other things so we do have a target relief we do provide relief all of the farmers and all of the small businesses and not those wealthy few that said that republicans

object to a bill but do you do you dispute his basic premise that that it should be across the board that are on in another words and when i just said a moment ago and when you're saying if we had the money you would never knew when our prom and with that it all out and say that's assad but if we did have the money to do we have a lot of and realize the capital gains that have never been exposed to taxes that the only time he becomes a taxable event is when it's in a state of nature that the government is entitled to receive revenues this so that we can say here of the other responsibilities that i have is a governor going to go back to her well a porcelain to correct his journals where well it should be errors about estate in fact recorded that they would be subject to the capitalist charlie so upset because we're not trying to find somewhere to continue taxing the dead person the fact the most we detect tax rate to somebody it's been a light and building an estimated seven million dollars that

person in his ray gets no benefit of that and the benefits of his estate have spread across his entire family so charlie is absolutely wrong as an answer to their state taxes if you want just as live forever we have a kind of what it would've go back to that has to congressman raul in the president's second point that even and then i can say in a sauna put words in their mouth at that their work and seeing the first point about the fairness issue that we can't afford it right now that's that's absurd we've got two hundred and fifty billion dollars for the government surplus tanks for the american people and the fiscal restraint of the republicans we spent already eighty three percent of that and buying down the debt we walk wei also security or medicare were asking for a what would have been less than two percent of next year's surplus alone spent over the next five years and they're saying we can't afford a kitty gonna be able to afford to give some appreciation back in the form of summer tax relief from the most

insidious and inexcusably unfair provision in the tax code for the people again in the prosperity in the first place the american people and it is that spending money it's oscillating people who earned it keep their own money and share it with your family well i think that we were really going to sustain the president's veto the republicans haven't been looking for this tax cut them are looking for love the dough and they should get it and they didn't get it the truth of the matter is that this is a very coarsely of revenue loser and we have are responsible when this bill comes into effect and they truly have the full repeal that take effect ten years now we don't even know what the economy is going to look like and at that same time we have the baby will is that will become eligible for social security and an eligible for medicare it is so unfair to put a lot of like that on a congress ten years now would probably army and i won't even be the end for the responsibility or form we're that's right now so and they were it will be airing a lot of playing for

all those risky spend these games are charlie our angle as a promoted and voted for a lot of why charlie is the lowdown our children when we give their parents are themselves a little bit of tax relief and is not a lot on our children when you come up with new big government risky spending schemes for programs that we don't even understand are workable or have good evidence to see and not work in the lives of their parents and will work in their lives if you really want to give tax relief and do it free and equitably you would pay down the national debt reduced interest rates so that kids can get student loans young people can buy homes others can put in their retirement funds you came to sing this so that taxes just belong to the people were the government has responsibility thats a key of people but that's what make democrats differed from you about we were you were in the majority in the house for fourteen straight years never pay down a dime's worth of debt we have been in the majority for

six years and we have paid out over three hundred and fifty billion dollars worth of there down in ninety five that we are the majority and the stock market took off and ninety five in africa as we republicans should continue doing more of what it is we've been doing that you didn't do for forty years when president clinton presented nineteen ninety three a budget bill through the house and senate not one republican in the house or senate voted for an id that that we had in the reagan years has been eliminated under the clinton gore he is you know and i'd note and the bottle know there's just celebrated other day that that was eliminated because we signed our welfare reform bill we're going to have to go over there with a work an award winners worried you can see digital have the votes to override the veto we don't have a lot of override the veto but i do think the american people understand this is fundamentally unfair and the president was wrong to veto that bill and i think they're going to remember this as an issue in the presidential

campaign well i think he's made it out of it a better man that was willing to give the american people a tax reduction they learn and they deserve you to sign the bill and one of the nation rightly up with their thank you both very much and finally tonight essayist and they were swimming seize paris in the eyes of an article for tarp i don't remember when i first saw the work of french photographer huge and i'd say in what museum in what city might even new york might even parrots and it than fourteen or twenty three wherever it was however old i was the images stayed with me the moody indelible images of paris in the early years of the last century i've carried them ever since somewhere inside in the bone behind the eye at the back of the brain where ever we put these things seeing a chase photographs again in this politically quiet new show at the getty museum in los angeles

was like a homecoming remembrance if you will of things that which is after all what actually himself was all about remember are driving the city he so loved and through whose streets day after day in those early years of the nineteen hundreds he trudges with his big old heavy tri pod mounted camera and his even then old fashioned glass plate negative he did not think of himself as an artist for say he was interested in making a record of the texture of his city parks shop windows the ordinary streets where ordinary people came and went strolled and played and past they're often very hard lives he took pictures not of the rich and famous but have the rag picker and metal worker in short he had a political as well as a poetic i we've seen so much photography lately arguably it is the art form for our age our media drenched narcissistic age if you

will reflecting back to his pictures of ourselves and our world the visual analog to the memoirs everyone is rye but so often the glossy bossy images are cindy advertising copy and you off the photographers ego and the subjects ego crowding out your own imagination but without say every deserted street and every staircase is an invitation for your eye to wander down your imagination they pull it you invite you when you might catch a figure a child at play a face in the window like a vermeer painting the barren away incidental accidental the window dressing you were the passer by usually is drop or on time passed on time itself that actually is doing this what he's showing us through his lens is that juncture of present and past a present that is somehow already passed a city already moving on

modernizing and leading these cobblestones the storefronts these bridges behind people have come and gone you can hear the figment of their laughter as they disappear out of frame around the corner they're angry chatter their intimacies everything in these photographs feels permanent and evanescent at the same time how impermanent seems my own great sprawling city by comparison to leave actually a swirl for a moment and come out here and gaze down on la is to hear the rock n roll with constant demolition and modernization we're not preservation mind where there'd be a record left behind in this city one with the fragile insistence of that case certainly he did help show the way to other photographers walker evans comes to mind with his penchant for streets and signs and the stage sets for daily life very sad the two scenes a kind of a protege she actually knew at jay when he was an old man took this picture of him and her city states of new york or when part from his photo

affair with paris the getty in fact are showing a few of them along with the archery exhibit but there is something singular lee magic in the eye of this man alright existential in the sense that he's showing as paris in the early nineteen hundreds yes but something more time itself in a freeze frame here today gone tomorrow that's what you feel in here and it is both lonesome and exhilarating i'm ann taylor fleming they don't and again the major stories of this thursday another twenty six deaths were linked to recall the firestone tires the national highway traffic safety administration said that makes eighty eight fatalities so far and president clinton the bill republican bill repealing the federal estate tax we'll see you online and again here tomorrow evening with hugo often among others on june where i thank you and good luck

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