The MacNeil/Lehrer NewsHour

herb herb good evening leading the news this friday president reagan talked to soviet foreign minister shevardnadze about nicholas balog as the pre summit shevardnadze schultz talks began in washington and the us public health service at an experimental drug has shown success and treating aids we'll have the details of the shrine hundred

dollars a yard dry following the news of this friday is what the newshour looks like on the shelves shevardnadze meeting former secretary of state hilary kissinger and former national security advisor david aaron we find out about that experimental drug that's bringing new hope to aids victims and judy woodruff has a newsmaker interview with philippine president corazon aquino long distance funding also was provided by the station and other public television stations and the corporation for public broadcasting soviet foreign minister edward shevardnadze and made an unannounced trip to the white house today he spoke of president reagan for forty five minutes and delivered a letter from his boss soviet leader mikhail gorbachev a white house statement afterward said the president met with

shame or not say to quote convey the strength of his feelings about the continued refusal of the soviet authorities who allowed nicholas now off to return all and called a white house session was arranged by secretary of state shultz you're in a private one on one meeting with taylor datsun at the state department and an interview like this acronym lighthouse keeper stapel reagan told judy woodruff how it happened leo prime minister is meeting with the sectors that they're that for over two hours that first closer to half hours when they ah sectors they decided that what the foreign secretary was saying would be of interest to the president and for the market one of the farm sector to get a message from the president to deliver to the general secretary about how deeply the president felt so yeah they called up and later and says to the person would see him and present at the free for a few minutes just round one show up so i hadn't come all what was it that mr shevardnadze and as the in essence had to say about this violence that there was the present that that

most of the talk he delivered quite a stern lecture are on ours how we felt about that often by we i mean justice of the station i mean journalism in american public yeah in fact the whole world feels us where this town has been improperly i'm concert organizers right reaction thought he gave the standard soviet report which is well the version of the doubt this was any headway made in resolving this whole affair and we know the rest of it is all the president is improper what they're going to legal us about rich and it was this something <unk> or not they said why you i am i won't characterize the losses are hopeful resolutions they picked up where he left off and secretary of

spatial to the saffron on top of the two official phil almost six hours of talk of death welcome david there's no word on the contents of the gorbachev let irish mr danza delivered to president reagan shevardnadze and schultz are scheduled to talk some more tomorrow the original purpose of the two day meeting was to work out details of a second reagan gorbachev summit in moscow gorbachev repeated his conditions for such a summit he said the two leaders must agree on a nuclear test ban treaty try there's a new hope for aids victims today an experimental drug that in

clinical tests has dramatically reduced the death rate from acquired immune deficiency syndrome is being rushed under the market for wider distribution the drug is called azt was that all fine with that and government health official said today the drug proves so beneficial and limited control tasks that they suspended the trial so that the disciplines getting a placebo could begin taking the real thing in their public announcement today officials from the boys welcome company which makes the drug and the us public health service offered words of caution as it is not a cure for aids although the study results with our national rate certain cases were those uncertainties renee uncertainties about possible toxins affects uncertainties about long term benefits uncertainties about possible effect

we do not want to over promise of thousands of people who now have it all though the preliminary data indicate that azt decreases the mortality rate in some patients it does not show how long patients maybe i'll tolerate the drug or how long these responses know that may be sustained official said the drug may be on the market by the end of the year two key economic statistics were out today and they were not the commerce department said personal income rose point four percent in august while consumer spending was up one point one percent of the sales triggered the spending job and that was caused by cut rate financing for nineteen eighty six model cars in west germany the us military said today it had warned soldiers and their families to stay away from a discotheque in downtown stores guard after a telephone threat that an american would be kidnapped there warning leaflets were distributed despite speculation from a german official at the

caller may have been a disgruntled employee who had been fired from the disco two american servicemen were among the three people killed when a bomb exploded in a berlin disco in april in lebanon five members of the french peacekeeping force were wounded in fighting today two of them seriously the identity of their attackers was not immediately known in paris meanwhile french leaders met to forge a united front against the current wave of violence might mckay of the bbc reports speaking in from the airport france's two most important statement divided by politics of united in a shared fear the effect that an unrelenting terror campaign is having nomination president meter also stressed was briefed by prime minister chirac the goal is as it headed tonight to hold an emergency meeting the cabinet ministers in charge of state security he followed alienating subprime is to have had with the leaders of all the main

opposition parties they were told among other things that the government were tightening up securities to further that immediate animal rallies and demonstrations the government also issuing to be stationed all over france photographs of nine eleven the suspected of activity in support of the jailed george giving him abdullah georgia dow is the jailed head of the lebanese armed revolutionary faction a maronite christian group believed responsible for five terrorist bombings that have killed a person's an injured a hundred and sixty four in the last eleven days elsewhere in the world japan today announced additional sanctions against south africa including a ban on iron and steel imports the action also excludes air travel between the two countries in south africa meanwhile an official of the white minority government announced today that more than eighteen hundred people have been killed and at least six thousand injured in the past two years of political violence and that's it for the most summery tonight now been re kissinger and david aaron explore the crisis in us soviet relations

we look at the new aids drugs success and judy woodruff talked of corazon aquino our first focus tonight is on the big event in washington today the long awaited meeting between secretary of state george shultz and soviet foreign minister edward shevardnadze these talks at the highest level in the last ten months come at a time of heightened us soviet tensions over the case of nicolas daniloff us news and world report moscow correspondent under indictment for espionage here first to discuss the significance of this meeting and the prospects for us soviet summit is henry kissinger a national security adviser and secretary of state in the nixon and ford administrations dr kissinger what do you make of that surprise visit to the white house today by edward shevardnadze there's

a solution the administration would invoke the president an independent connecticut called unsuccessful so a group that secretary of the shows included in his brother conversation that progress was being made that he had sought and this is from the president might add to the atmosphere and progress but the cleanup that you just heard today's interview with don regan whose that was hopeful that seems to last and to where you know i don't usually full white house is to take an enormous amount of credit for a conversation to the noble firs after the conversation the white house issued a very terse statement about the meeting there were no photo opportunities they it was reported that it was lunchtime and

seven that he wasn't invited to lunch on anything in the appropriate book not to create the impression that it was a very cordial atmosphere has done a lot of it has to be cleaned up before you approach this can be made in large part because public opinion wooden boats still plenty of records what do you think these latest developments mean the white house meeting and everything mean or of the world for the rest of the foreign ministers meeting i have assumed that he chose to be in what would make progress i think it is in the interests of both sides make progress and i don't believe the argument that some people make that the soviets that the option of waiting for the end of particular demonstration because that means two years of president reagan human activity as well a new president gets his feet on the ground president

reagan is the man who can best deliver on any agreement that will be made in terms of getting american public support so i have a suit and all along that progress would be made this year and i think the debate should begin to shift from the band loves issue of the substance of these talks and to evaluate the real comfortable whatever agreements maybe i'm a white steed nassif of why you think that i mean is that because of the latest developments the making of an american newsman it's clearly wrong and as reagan said outrageous on the other hand a lot depends on the facts what exactly is accused of killing and that will be limited i'm sure in and because of time no well if the issue is who is of the sort so one

conclusion they should drop that we should never have you know dozens of other chose something about the character of the soviet system it's a brutal system that does not shrink from framing people achieve national objectives before we should not kid ourselves at a summit of foreign ministers meeting it's going to change basic soviet attitude a problem is that as a nation we have the court system an update with this hostile system in to find out and to find concrete arrangements that genuinely improve the situation and so we have to get away from atmospherics and the subs is it your view than that this meeting should have taken place regardless of whether there was any progress and i think it was proper for a limited place i believe before i think about a lot of that is all mixed up in the general context of the relationship but i believe it has to do so before one can reform can have confidence

continue on this road unbelievable because of their lives because they get but you do put at the top of the list at the top of the list and of course one said that it depends on the context of what is unloved at the bottom of that as hoffler is you are however i mean do you think that the arms control some agreement would ever could actually turn on the den lauf affair units and how it's handled how it's eventually the difficult job the soviets friend americans who is innocent of breaking an associate law and has not cooperated with an intelligence activities i'm now have a better job and at the soviet simple and police and then it will certainly interfere my fundamental you almost daily raids i believe in arms control is important i don't believe it's the only subject that should be discussed between the united states and the soviet union today the

many thousands of political tension that contribute to the answer is meant to separate the arms issues from all political conversation seems to make extremely dangerous both of them discuss american progress can be made and both eric be seen as second opinion now from david aaron the deputy national security advisor in the carter administration and a possible foreign policy advisor the nineteen eighty four democratic presidential nominee walter mondale turned out you read what shape are not saying how you really gibbard nazi visitor to the white house today do you agree with dr kissinger that that these things are going on rubble in positive ways well one would hope so but i think that it's a two really can say for sure the that one thing that is clear is that this meeting these two days with the president and with secretary shelves are going to be key as to whether the summit and i believe as to whether there will be an arms control agreement or a major progress

this particular meeting i think is important in stressing to the soviets the importance that we attach to this particular incident after all both arms control and this incident are about the same principles that is can we establish some principles of mutual respect and mutual restraint and unless we can do so in both areas i don't think we're making a lot of progress in reconciling differences some people have suggested mr aaron on this program and elsewhere that us secretary show should talk to shiver advisory only about that a lot until the daniloff cases resolve and that it shows weakness on our part to discuss all these other matters no matter how important they are as long as those charges remain against know what your view of that well i think the charges outrageous there's no question they're sort of a page of the call center book apart are diplomacy but i think the best leverage we have in this situation is really to negotiate

seriously on the other issues that divide us the extent to which we can establish some common ground on these fundamental questions arms control and so the political issues that an activist to talk about that really gives us leverage to overcome this particular issue how's it with leverage well because the city and i think at this stage faces a basic fundamental political decision do they want someone that they won the green they wanna let mr belasco and to the extent to which you know we come up with a mutually acceptable agreement in arms control or some progress in other areas i think they can see that the battle off affair is simply not worth the candle do it for them in maine we could say to oversimplify would say we could come up with a really good deal on arms control all we could do this but we are not going to do any harm and less of an office released and make the make the debate so strong that that would cause them to release now my view is that we should go see it seriously interest lay on arms control and the other issues that we can reach some agreement fine but we

should also make it clear to the soviets that nothing will be finalized nothing will be made official until this problem is resolved what how does it get resolved mr aaron i'm a nod that they have our jobs and yesterday that was down offers of spying he was caught red handed and apparently it read between the lines of what reagan told the jury this afternoon at the white house after the munition are not a reporter i repeated that president reagan would get worse the resolution and my guess is that it will come out pretty much the way a similar incident came out in nineteen seventy eight we arrested three soviet spies here when a diplomatic immunity the other two were put in jail finally they released their embassy and in retaliation the soviets picked up a perfectly innocent americans was a businessman at that when they charge and currency violations in the end what happened was that they tried and convicted him but then expelled him my guess is that now that the general secretary gorbachev has also accused fudo of venus by they will have to go through the trial but they are

likely to expel him that's the only way i can see that they can but and we continue to talk about summit meetings in arms control in all this whether try nichols bell i don't think we can talk about a summer day i don't think we can establish a new arrangements for that i think that the soviets were going to have two very quickly to resolve the matter and of course in their system of what they call justice that they can do this kind of thing pretty quickly like you try do you see it happen and that way i mean how that giving the finger his problem was that in the sentence in the mechanic's pellet i'm opposed to making an equivalent between an american newsman and anti soviet spy because of the cut so i think the two cases have to be handled separately and i think the middle of a debate that is three years before we make a decision

i mean in terms of the way that this is an incident should go this third eye that there is either the soviets really some dissidents together but some dissidents in return for soccer oath and expel the middle of a separate incident that all kinds of ways it can be done once a decision is made to have a gun i don't think the united states can accept the proposition that a newsman it has to be treated as the government was fired because otherwise the soviet union as any time that there's an incident that the soviet citizen is called spying here some innocent americans do not believe that a solution is possible and it might instead just listening to the background noise is the beginning of it is now and the way forward to this episode of the family can do whatever they want eat is is that what was what what

what the soviets needed to save face to let go of the top have his say intimate shevardnadze be all that by the president here i mean he is is he has enough face saving have enough face saving mechanisms been put into place now that this thing can go forward without any more obstacles i'm not sure that enough that we'll probably see a few more before dawn i think the problem is that we really haven't had enough of that debate a as the key position just and the substance of what they're going to talk about what they might reach agreement on at a summit this issue as important as it is has tended to obscure that and there are some very important choices that face us for example well for example but right now it looks like the issues that are closest to resolution are intermediate range missiles in europe in the question of confidence building measures in here i personally am somewhat opposed to the idea of going forward slowly and measures that will apply here for a long time we've had a lot of differences with our allies

terrorism and the response to afghanistan to polling europeans said afghanistan's to faraway poland is too close if we go ahead and just have an agreement that encompasses europe i'm concerned that down the road will pay a political price increased distance between ourselves and our allies activism can come to learn some seven otis and his substance abuse agreement on what the concern is the agreement and european missiles substantially dismantled what the europeans have they have a domestic prisoners the region can't live there because of lucky ended up on religion and secondly we have to keep in mind the asian reaction it's a remake an agreement that the important the european front that keeps it up against asia and change but this is the sort of debate which is very hard to conduct if you don't know the specific proposal that is

on the table in general i think that the administrative in an illustration as the best negotiated solution that has existed in a long time that the soviets reasonable rational it alternate a period of arrested and they are relatively united and so that gives us a good bargain are you worried as david heron is that this panel off case is forestalling those dangerous but what i look at is this of course was stolen and the jury to understand that it is their action as was over and they should not be an additional price in order to get the panel is result i believe for months or so that have understood this and i believe they have left at least that they will get it at the midwest has liquidated and they shoot them to have a national discussion on the substance of the the issue is that i think that that have been negotiated

between the united states and duke do i take it from what you're saying in terms of your cautious optimism about progress on that day last case that you feel that it's easier to get the issue resolved now that the two top guys are long reagan and gorbachev images that seem to be making it easier to get towards a resolution harder oh he would've been a good idea to have been involved in the earlier decisions to make arrests of progress indications are that the top leadership and now the country may have been a cardinal but so i guess i would say that the prospects for that this administration i think really would like to get an announcement at the summit for the november elections that will help them possibly one or two points in some close races that's really crucial in terms of what will happen to the senate the next six years so they have a big incentive to cut it i don't want a us and

the administration doesn't need some an announcement for the election or who needs a summit more the soviets or the amount that the soviets needed somewhat morbid it unless both sides needed to go to a place i believe that president reagan would like to put down in history as an investment dollars as a man who has made a significant contribution to it reads on the senate i could easily see him wrapped himself in the american flag and face down the russians and i don't know which way so the debate is about approaching the last two years of his presidency i think that is not true for president reagan who want to demonstrate that he has made a contribution towards peace and i believe in fact that it went about that he has that's is a little bit of a disadvantage because i can happily disapprove of this and i think that so this can afford to be more patient approach was kid castillo chavez five

ten how many years to make his record history president only has to maybe only a six months given the realities of politics something in some sense that he's kind of this so didn't have linen that the american political scene gets to be very unpredictable and then travel out with president reagan new president comes in the west as the victims of this is that there has been a never get an agreement because right now who have waited feedback as to thank you for being with us and so aaron thank you still to come on the newshour tonight the encouraging news about an experimental treatment for aids at an interview with the lobbying president corazon aquino at last there is some good news to report on a suit was made today in a joint

announcement by the us public health service and the girls welcome drug company research triangle park north carolina an experimental drug called azt azt as been shown to prolong the lies of aids victims they said and it will now be made available to aids patients throughout the united states we're going to look at the announcement with an aids patient who has received the drug the head of the federal government's aids research effort and the vice president for research at the girls walking company was first is doctor david barron very give me the specific results of your tests the reason why tests involved a double want placebo controlled study which means that half of the patients received a sugar pill and half we see it as a time of the azt neither the patient nor the examining physician new which was which the study was designed to go for six months to begin that the first patient was entered in november of this year in alaska aisha was

entered in june of this year so we are if you will in mid stride in the study many patients there are a total of two hundred and eighty two patients who entered into the study done and call centers throughout the united states to ensure that no patients receive drug which might be too toxic or that the placebo patients might be deprived of a drug which was shown to be safe and effective we asked the nationalist sense of allergy and infectious diseases to construct a data safety monitoring board which could independently look at the results from the course of the study in the course of preparing isn't some of the results for this data safety monitoring board on september first we noted that there was a significantly higher mortality rate and one group versus the other what became clear was that those patients receiving a lot of time again at a much lower frequency of death than those receiving placebo in fact there were only but there was only one that's amongst

the approximately one hundred and fourteen patients receiving design a simon dean and there were sixteen that's among those patients receive a placebo and that caused you to conclude what that cause us to conclude that we should talk very quickly were the data safety monitoring board which we did they ask for additional debate over the course of the past week to ensure the these results were not a statistical fluke or the result of some wires that might be in the study that was not clear and prejudice the outcome we supplied though do those data to the data safety monitoring board mark on thursday morning and it became clear that the results in fact were valid and that was august on the beam clearly increasing mortality rates in certain patients did they the people whose life was prolonging it did did they improve or they get a lot longer

a lot of the details of the study including the quality of life the activities of daily living are improvements in laboratory parameters are being more fully examined right now i think in general though we have same amongst many of the nation's increased activity weight gain and improvements and their immune function is there a layman's explanation as to what azt does that makes it at that cause this result i believe so the drug it inhibits the multiplication of the virus by stopping was the aids virus by stopping a very key enzyme necessary for the virus replication what we have shown a nice liquid through the new important clinical medical information in here that we have today is that we have shown that by stopping this process the patient's overall health and improves and that possibly the immune function made at least

partially if not completely restored so a very finite did this discovery of azt accidentally or through careful planning organization i think the the best center uses enlightened serendipity we have been our company has been engaged in anti viral research for a long time and when it became clear based on data generated at the national cancer institute said the pastor institute of aids was called were certain type of retro juarez we immediately engaged a number of individuals to work with us to look at some of our chemicals that we've had on the shelf for activity against this virus and in november of nineteen eighty four we found in our own laboratory is the drug has idled simon dean was extremely active against animal viruses retroviruses and we then sent to sample all that drug to several

laboratories to test against a human aids virus and it was found to be fixing the very fact you try so far only about a hundred and forty five aids patients have received the drug which was being tested at twelve medical centers around the country they halted the test yesterday three months early because the results were so promising one of the patients was a twenty year old salesman a margin in any case martin who asked to be identified only by his first name was diagnosed with aids in march is only symptom was aware pneumonia that's often the first sign of the disease in may he joined the azt experiment at st lukes roosevelt hospital in new york but for the purposes of the experiment he didn't know when he was giving the real drug or just a sugar pill by the end of july martin was sure the pills were

having an effect on i didn't realize that there was no change in the way i was i felt very good like you made the study of the varied but now whatever it is it's working whether it's a place to stay low and it's working as far as giving up a lot of confidence and it's the drug and it's working yesterday doctors confirmed that martin was in fact getting the drug azt martin joins us tonight one that tape we just saw was made in july how do you feel now that are going on the better of the moment that you're in the news yesterday it wasn't not really a surprise but it really stimulated me positively calm as far as the future i think a lot of hope to patients who have not had the chance to compete on the trials and the patients that were on the placebo what exactly did to durant in free will basically it kept me from as far as the economy from getting any infections i have a cold since

on the initial pneumonia so i feel it's kept my body to the point where the immune system has not done anymore suppressed and has slightly improved at the moment what did you have in the other's symptoms that were going on at that happen just before you start taking them for other symptoms that have abated since she started skating i know basically i recovered totally from the pneumonia and basically within the aids patient on it basically one opportunistic infection after another and you just have to caution arm after recovering from pneumonia there was a small period of time before i actually did go on the drug in week beginning in late march on subsequent be understood on prior to the moan i lost about twenty pounds that number after the money and at the start of the drive i gained about thirty d do you think you would've been much sicker now if you hadn't taken it's a frightening thought i thought about it mom it is a possibility of a much greater possibility and do arm without the drug

i would like to think i've taken care of myself that i wouldn't have a lung it's something that you really don't think you have any friends or in it that you knew who was at the level of illness that you were who were taking the drug and what what has happened to them and we hunt for chile well because of what had died he i had pneumonia among previous to mine and unfair to get non the trials and develop a captain sir calm and therefore had to arm and we dropped from them and he's past where nobody about a month so i mean there's one alternative that could've happened did you hear in each hand side effects in the beginning when i'm everyone was administered the pills not knowing of course at that point whether it was a placebo or the drug everyone has psychological effects that would first three people i've spoken to throughout the trial there's just was an occasional noisier on very mild lasting only a few

minutes and carousel the armed but because also with the blood test do you consider your white count does draw but they did give us that information but there's a side effect they were told about it for anything else with the trial and how often we take in every four hours every day and it still still do every four hours you must stay on them in moscow opinion on the evening and you really have to you'll be very accurate you are asked to keep a diary of every in the dosage and exactly what time you take and they keep a couple quite a close watch on this right that's the perspective of dr anthony fauci aids coordinator for the national institutes of health and a major overseer of all ages search for the federal government dr how important is this support this announcement today it's really quite important this has been the first time that an agent that that blocks the virus which causes aids the aids virus has been

shown to have a significant clinical effect in a carefully controlled study so the implications of this are really quite important on the one hand we accept this importance and we're very excited about it but on the other hand it gives us even greater impetus to go on and can see a new study in the cause the drug were shown to be effective for a finite period of time as the very mention over a period of a few months and the drug does have toxic side effects what we need to know by continuing to study the drug in continuing the efforts in drug development research whether life can be prolonged for even longer periods of time and if it can be done in that situation with relatively few side effects so there's no doubt this is an extraordinarily important observation were very excited about it but a lot more needs to be done there were correct me if i'm wrong here about roughly ten thousand eight victims in the united states correct in iraq how many of those would be

eligible or should take a stronger what happened today is that was announced that the drone would be made available on the what we call the treatment i indie or investigation new drug which means that the drug will be available to those individuals who fall into the category which is similar to the category in which the recent study that was just described were shown to be affected so that would mean that individuals who have aids what the pneumonia called nemesis is careening on here which is what mr wright the individuals who had aids and says describing ammonia have been shown to be benefited by this if you take those individuals about half to sixty percent of those individuals of the ten thousand you're talking about would generally fall into that category when i can talk about well it's a risk benefit ratio the drug has shown now a careful study to be beneficial and worse the risk for sure and that group what we're doing now in collaboration with the boys welcome company and

in collaboration with investigators about the country are studying in a careful way this drug in other types of infection with the aids virus and one for example is infection with individuals who have kept she sarcoma which is another time captures our color is a form of cancer that aids victims get in addition there's the it what we call old is you don't know as we sit here now what i would have any effect on those exactly and that's the airport you point that we really would like to emphasize and underscore that the drug is being made available now to individual wolves including the drug has shown to be affected by the study that was just terminate now when another study comes along which were right in the process of doing it and shows for example that scene is affective in another type of aids or even another top of serious infection with the aids virus then the risk benefit would want to use there what does you were like what do what does the data show about the probability of this drug also having an effect on the other forty

percent well of course if you see it having an effect in a situation in which the disease is quite serious because mortality of the surviving of individuals within that was described in ammonia is measured in thirty to forty some odd weeks we would hope that in fact the drug would have a similar effect so i'm optimistic that the drug would have a similar effect in other serious infections are serious consequences of the aids virus infection back when asked this you obviously know about all the research that's going on israel its day finally in this country but around the world correct them or did this come as a surprise to or was this kind of an in the works and that of the work for the minder what for a while well there are very few surprises because when when the study was started based on the very exciting in vitro data in the test tube that this drug have the ability to

block the virus and in the early phase one studies that had been published in a corporate study between the bars welcome company and duke university in the national cancer institute show that there was a strong suggestion that they would be a beneficial effects of the results that came about today were not entirely surprising that we needed to do to control trial literally a doctor gary locke is easy to be made out of what were its component parts its component parts are a natural it's an analog it's a chemical very similar to one of the building blocks of dna that building block it's called simon and what we have done is to modify one of the very tiny side chains on that natural building block and what that does in effect is to fool the enzyme that normally the protein that normally helps of arts built itself into believing it's the natural building block time again and when it puts the natural building block into the sequence into the

chain of dna a building block is disruptive and prevents any other building blocks to be added i think i understood it but i'm not quite sure the azt azt already existed you see headed on the shelf right and what were what was the news is it's it was first synthesized made by organic chemist over twenty eleven and robin the man made the argument made over twenty years ago as a potential anti cancer action by investigators midwest was found to be inactive against cancers and was not further investigated in the late nineteen seventies and the course of a series of other experiments to look at agents active against bacteria we found that it was quite active against certain types of bacteria but an insufficient spectrum of them however in the course of our review of some drugs that were active chemical compounds that were

active against certain viruses would seem to present a chemical structure that might be promising in preventing the virus from replicating in that was tested or professional work that caution is a word you will all that you'd been very cautious to india public health service were cautious at the news conference that are very big part of it is is that is that correct to say that at least we are closer to a cure to each tonight than we were before azt was found on the shelf at the girls walking government as being fundamentally courses person i can say that in fact we are certainly much closer to what they're saying to to an effective treatment for this disease with this particular agent and we have been up to this time in the history of aids i don't think there's any question about that this point as a practical matter baby ten thousand or you say six thousand were there like martin who are automatically eligible for this drop out as a practical matter when can they get it and then what we're what's the process

well the process is that we announced today at the press conference an eight hundred number in which individuals can call and they would get information as patients or the physicians would call up and they would have sent to them information in a registration form where they could provide information back to the to the source that was sent them it's it's it's a contract we have right here in iraq bill it will mark o'mara was right and the end the case histories looked at carefully and if an individual falls into the criteria for this treatment i envy then an individual's notify bar is welcome where as well just as they did to a pharmacy an individual can get or a prescription from their physician or a parent martin york thank you all three room building president corazon aquino

left washington today from new york city where she will meet with bankers and businessman as part of her continuing quest to win more aid and investment for the country on wednesday she received a hundred million dollar aid package from president reagan and yesterday the house voted an additional two hundred million dollars emergency aid before she left washington president aquino sat down with a newsmaker interview with judy woodruff who asked if she thought the united states had an obligation to support her government well i think since we have had this hour long relationship with each other and says ours is the new restored democracy i said in my speech to congress that we do need help in preserving this democracy that we have just destroyed so is that regard the town hall we will be given that the necessary assistance much as we would like to be

a self reliant unfortunately air in the past administration under mr mark was really wreak havoc on our economy and we are saddled with a twenty six billion dollar debt we had to get us as they're signed up going from the united states but from other friends because there is no way down for us to start this economic recovery program going because we just don't have that finds out for it as i said was to mark was sound one of their daily economy and this is why they are suffering almost two and a half million filipinos are unemployed really well to encourage opt for investors the candidate so that we can generate more jobs for the people along those lines i believe your labor minister mr sanchez has topped among other signs

of that nationalizing industry ambitious scared off some of these potential investors i guess it was misinterpreted but in fact i didn't say i think it is important for us to attract investors to come in and so we had to grade this maniac incentives to encourage them to come in otherwise it would just go to other countries and i was very impressed with what i saw in singapore where are they would be and many businesses don't the league i fell and yet able to employ so many and singaporean so this is what we are looking into to ask why investors to come in and to make it less attractive for them as possible at the same time not all how can you do that because in that at some point become

contradictory well i don't think so i of course neither one really can't have too much of an advantage over the other but we're on both interests that can be served i think i will be able to have a compromise and make it attractive for investors to come in at the same time we get the us realize that we can't do this alone so on we are raw encouraging them to come in and we'll make it happen you say that mr sanchez did not make that particular comet that as you know questions have been raised about the so called free exchange of ideas that she liked to promote along the members of your cabinet exacts some are criticizing us you know for letting this go too far there's been so much of a free exchange the decisions are being made oh i disagree of decisions are made then i guess you just have to realize that for the last forty years we were living under a dictatorship i guess

people on were just used to hearing one voice but i understand even hearing your country on many of flowers or a few of the cabinet members don't always agree a fact that caught our i've never lord ara great concern in your country i think it's something that you're used to because you had freedom in this country for so long but in our case where for the first time on other voices are being heard i guess it's a big change and since we have twenty four newspapers now in manila you can imagine how all of these reported their differences would make the headlines because this one would be an attractive to readers well a lot of those newspapers as well as newspapers and and television outlets here in the united states have been writing in broadcasting that maybe this president says aquino is not as effective is not as forceful leader

and she needs to be at this very fractious response they sell it is good to hear on many sides because of mr marcus made a mistake of thinking that he alone knew all the answers are have all the answers and look at what happened to our country so i don't think you know there was any hiring in the hearing different opinions and that once i had rice said the guidelines and that's it you before you came as you know there was a white house official who was quoted anonymously as criticizing european negotiations with it with the gorillas with insurgents and thank you again to us negotiating that she wore again we're being forceful enough they were willing to use force how do you respond when you seek criticism like well first of all i don't make it a practice of commenting on a statement which does not identify you know the person who said that

at any rate i guess it is difficult for some people to realize that down in my country and military a military solution was being practiced on burmese democracy and yet he did not succeed in solving this problem so it is clear to me and to many others that in addition to the military solution we have to look into law and providing a better life for not only for these surges but for the filipino people in a piece for as many as we are able to help if i am able to convince the civilian population that i did everything and i offer in you know the olive branch of these and still this was rejected by the communist then at least i am sure they will be supporting me in my next moves in other words i am looking for

the moral authority to really use force of that time should come a question about the faces as you probably know in one of your deck deputy defense minister is i believe it was said at a breakfast meeting with reporters here in washington earlier this week that she said most filipinos want those bases to go eventually because otherwise the philippines can be an independent country citizens of any country rely on their country to be an independent and free from foreign bases about i said that whatever will be to integrate your interest of the people will guide me on a quarterly and what should be done with the list of bases and there will be a review of the base agreement in nineteen eighty eight and they were the time now to discuss that and so you dont deny it doesn't you want you agree with that statement but it's probably true that most of us especially and the younger generation

at this point how important is that those bases more important the united states why don't i just after that in nineteen eighty eight was president we thank you for being with us senate majority leader robert dole said today he was worried about the future of us bases he said a commission named by mrs aquino to write a new constitution has raised a huge question mark over the future of the us air force and navy bases in the philippines he said us occupancy of the bases could become an explosive political issue in the philippines ball also said the senate will not immediately vote on the two hundred million dollar aid request approved yesterday by the house again the major stories of this friday president reagan had a forty five minute meeting with soviet foreign minister shevardnadze white house spokesman said mr reagan conveyed the strength of his

feelings about the littlest that all gays are not delivered a letter from soviet leader garbage off with the contents were not revealed jaber not they also spent almost six hours meeting with secretary of state shoals afterwards he said the two countries needed more time to negotiate a shave or not that short stocks continue tomorrow pfeiffer and shoulders soldiers serving in the un peacekeeping force eleven on or wounded are reportedly are in serious condition un officials said the french soldiers were attacked by rocket and the us public health service at an experimental drug that has shown promising results will be made available to aids victims could i try good night and that's the newshour for tonight have a good weekend and charlayne hunter gault good night whether it's working

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