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MS. FARNSWORTH: Good evening. I'm Elizabeth Farnsworth. Jim Lehrer is away. On the NewsHour tonight, the New Hampshire campaign post-debate, Margaret Warner reports on voters' reactions and Mark Shields and Paul Gigot analyze that and other matters; the fraying accord in Bosnia, Charlayne Hunter-Gault interviews journalists just back; and finally, drug rehabilitation in Denver, Betty Ann Bowser looks at a judge's efforts to get a grip on the problem. It all follows our summary of the news this Friday. NEWS SUMMARY
MS. FARNSWORTH: NATO forces in Bosnia captured what they called a terrorist training camp outside Sarajevo, a spokesman said today. The peacekeeping troops seized weapons and arrested 11 people in yesterday's raid on a former ski chalet. Three of the men carried Iranian identification papers. The commander of the NATO forces in Bosnia, Adm. Leighton Smith, inspected the camp. He said the Bosnian government had direct links to the camp's operation, but a government spokesman insisted the camp was an anti-terrorist center for police units being trained to arrest war criminals. In Washington, a State Department spokesman replied to that explanation.
NICHOLAS BURNS, State Department Spokesman: We have seen this morning a most extraordinary statement from the Bosnian ministry of the Interior in which it effectively criticizes the actions of IFOR to detain these people. This is a statement that has prompted many questions here in Washington, and this statement does not square with our understanding of the events yesterday, and we call upon the Bosnian government to cooperate fully with IFOR.
MS. FARNSWORTH: Tomorrow, the leaders of Bosnia, Croatia, and Serbia meet for a two-day summit in Rome. They'll be joined by the United States and its allies who are trying to implement the Dayton accords. A threatened break in the peace process came this week when two Serb officers were extradited to the International War Crimes Tribunal in the Hague. U.S. Assistant Secretary of State Richard Holbrooke said the Rome meeting is designed to "jolt the Balkan leaders back into action." In London today, police said they raided more than 30 locations and arrested several people in connection with last Friday's bombing. Two people were killed and one hundred injured in the explosion. The Irish Republican Army claimed credit for the attack. Earlier this week, police de-fused another device in the city's theater district. Back in this country, the United States and Canada reached a tentative settlement in a long-standing lumber dispute. Trade Rep. Mickey Kantor said Canada agreed to slow its exports of cheap soft wood lumber into the United States. The U.S. had threatened to impose a tariff because the Canadian imports were undercutting domestic timber production. The Federal Reserve reported the nation's industrial production dropped .6 of 1 percent in January, the largest plunge in five years. Factories, mines, and utilities were operating at 81.9 percent of capacity, the lowest in two years. The declines were blamed in part on blizzards that hit the East Coast. President Clinton traveled today to Pennsylvania neighborhoods hard hit by those blizzards. He toured areas in and around Wilkes-Barre, which were flooded by rivers swollen by melting snow. He offered $10 million in additional federal assistance. Earlier this week, Mr. Clinton made a similar pledge in a tour of flood-damaged sites in Oregon, Washington State, and Idaho. Today he was asked by reporters if he could get Congress to approve enough emergency funds to go around.
PRESIDENT CLINTON: I think, for example, every member of Congress from California will, will vote for this because the Congress was good to them when they were--endured their earthquakes and their fires. And I believe every member of Congress in the Middle West will vote for this because they had a 500-year flood on the Mississippi, and its tributaries, and these folks helped them. So I think it'll be done.
MS. FARNSWORTH: In New Hampshire today, Republican Presidential candidates resumed campaigning after last night's eight-way debate. Opinion polls published today showed a virtual dead heat for first place among Sen. Bob Dole of Kansas, commentator Pat Buchanan, and former Governor Lamar Alexander of Tennessee. Publisher Steve Forbes had slipped to fourth place. This is the last weekend before next Tuesday's primary, the first of the 1996 political season. Dole launched new television ads claiming Buchanan was unelectable and Alexander was a liberal, and they criticized Dole's attack ads. We'll have more on the New Hampshire primary right after the News Summary. An Amtrak passenger train collided with a commuter train tonight near Silver Spring, Maryland. A fire department official said one of the trains was on fire, and at least 36 people were injured. The accident occurred during a heavy snowstorm. She said several nearby high-rises were being evacuated as a precaution. The Amtrak train was en route from Washington, D.C., to Chicago. Actor and comedian McLean Stevenson is dead. He suffered a heart attack last night in a Southern California hospital. Stevenson starred as Col. Henry Blake, the commander of a mad cap army field hospital in the long-running TV series "MASH." McLean Stevenson was 66 years old. That's it for the News Summary tonight. Now it's on to a New Hampshire campaign update, Shields & Gigot, the fraying Bosnian accord, and drug rehabilitation in Denver. FOCUS - CAMPAIGN '96 - NEW HAMPSHIRE
MS. FARNSWORTH: Presidential politics is first tonight. The Republican candidates are in New Hampshire for the final campaign push before next Tuesday's primary. We begin our coverage with this report from Margaret Warner.
STEVE FORBES, Republican Presidential Candidate: I'm making no predictions on Tuesday. I'm just trying to get my message out there, and let the voters take it from there.
MS. WARNER: It's not as if New Hampshire voters haven't had the opportunity to evaluate the eight Republican Presidential contenders. The candidates have been everywhere in the state. The media coverage has been exhaustive, and political ads continue to clog the airwaves.
PATRICK BUCHANAN, Republican Presidential Candidate: [TV Ad] I'll cancel that Dole, Forbes, Gramm trade deal with Mexico. We'll stop sending American jobs abroad, and we'll start putting American workers first.
MS. WARNER: But four days before the Presidential primary here, a sizeable number of voters still haven't made up their minds.
MAN: I'm looking for somebody who can beat Bill Clinton in November, and I'm not sure that I see that person in the panel that we're presented with now.
WOMAN: I'm an independent, and I'm not, I'm not sure where I'm going on Tuesday, but I will be voting.
SECOND MAN: I have not made a decision. I think when I go in the polling booth on Tuesday, hopefully, something will have jelled over the weekend.
MS. WARNER: The candidates' own pollsters concede that last night's televised debate didn't make the voters' choice much easier. It was a rough and tumble event, good theater, some discussion of issues, but no one emerged a clear victor.
PATRICK BUCHANAN, Republican Presidential Candidate: [Last Night] Let me say this, Bob, if I'm an extremist, why are you pirating my ideas and parroting my rhetoric?
MS. WARNER: Sen. Robert Dole, considered the front-runner here, was the target of the other candidates last night.
LAMAR ALEXANDER, Republican Presidential Candidate: I've been so surprised to see that Sen. Dole has begun negative advertising on television against Pat Buchanan and now against me. Sen. Dole, you're better than your negative ads. Why don't you pull them off?
SEN. ROBERT DOLE, Republican Presidential Candidate: Well, we do have a right of self-defense in America, and I stood by from October 23rd when Steve Forbes started hammering me until January 12th, almost three months, I took negative, negative, millions and millions of dollars worth of negative ads, and they didn't even use a good picture of me, so, Steve, I brought some pictures. Next time you run one, use this picture. It's better of me and my wife, it's good of her, and that's my little dog Leader in this picture. He's the one on the right. So I know all about negative ads.
SPOKESMAN: And this is Elizabeth.
SEN. ROBERT DOLE: That's Elizabeth. So if you're going to use negative ads--
STEVE FORBES, Republican Presidential Candidate: Senator, no pretty picture can get around what you did in Texas.
SEN. ROBERT DOLE: I know your problem. You've got a lot of money and you want to buy this election. But this election's not for sale. You hammered my positive rating from 80 to 13 in Iowa down to 54. That's what you did with negative ads. Nobody else has been the victim of negative ads up there, except Bob Dole.
MS. WARNER: The jabs were even more intense from Buchanan, who polls show has a real shot at overtaking Dole here.
PATRICK BUCHANAN: But let me take up an issue mentioned by Sen. Dole again. Sen. Dole said if we hadn't bailed out Mexico with $50 billion, why all these immigrants would have come streaming across our border.
SEN. ROBERT DOLE: It's going to be repaid too, Pat. You know, the money is going to be repaid.
PATRICK BUCHANAN: Lots of luck, Bob.
SEN. ROBERT DOLE: We're not going to lose one cent. We took care of that.
PATRICK BUCHANAN: You're not going to get a dime of that money back. Let me give my answer here.
MS. WARNER: Forbes, in turn, who seems to be losing ground for third place to Lamar Alexander, took sharp aim at the former Tennessee governor. Forbes attacked Alexander for using his government positions to make lucrative personal financial deals.
STEVE FORBES: Now, you've seen Lamar Alexander. He's now engaging in ads, distorting my position, calling me a Wall Street insider. Well, as a Wall Street insider, many of us were impressed when Hillary Clinton turned $1,000 into $100,000. But I was really astonished when I learned that as governor, Gov. Alexander turned $1 into $620,000. So when he says A, B, C, that Alexander beats Clinton, what he meant was not Bill Clinton but Hillary Clinton.
LAMAR ALEXANDER, Republican Presidential Candidate: As far as Mr. Forbes goes, he knows what a capital gain is. I was proud of that. The reason everyone knows about that is I've disclosed my tax returns, since 1978, even when I'm in private life. Steve, why don't you disclose your tax returns as well? If your tax-cutting agenda is our agenda, then we need to know what taxes you pay? And if we're not careful, we're going to spend all of our time talking about each other--
STEVE FORBES: You as governor have invested $20 million in various scams that you have gotten $1.9 million return for.
LAMAR ALEXANDER: Steve.
STEVE FORBES: $1.9 million.
MS. WARNER: The candidates did engage in some serious debate about issues affecting voters. The economic impact of free trade has been a primary focus of Buchanan's campaign, but last night, all the candidates found themselves talking about it.
PATRICK BUCHANAN: For the life of me, I cannot understand why my colleagues will not recognize that when you cut trade deals that force Americans to compete with people making $1 an hour and 25 cents an hour in China and 75 cents an hour in Singapore, wages are going to go down, and they're going down. And for heaven sakes, stand with me and do something to put a stop to it and end what's going on.
MODERATOR: Thank you, Mr. Buchanan. Sen. Dole.
SEN. ROBERT DOLE: Let me say first of all the problem is not with NAFTA and GATT I supported. The problem is President Clinton. He's been less than aggressive, in effect, to be an aggressive trade policy. He's got anti-dumping provisions, anti-subsidy provisions. We have provisions, a law called Section 301, where you can take action to protect American workers. He hasn't done it. He hasn't done it, time after time after time.
ALAN KEYES, Republican Presidential Candidate: But I also want to caution against the rhetoric that I'm listening to from Mr. Buchanan, Mr. Dole, and others, beating up on the corporations, talking as if the government is going to guarantee everybody a job with the trade policies and this policy and that policy. They sound like a bunch of socialists, not a bunch of Republicans. And I'm getting a little tired of it.
SEN. RICHARD LUGAR, Republican Presidential Candidate: Where we have free competition, we will succeed. If we are not powerful economically and militarily and we do not have a strong foreign policy, we will not succeed. We will lose jobs if we go protectionist and isolationist. We will gain jobs if we take leadership in the world.
MS. WARNER: None of the candidates confronted Pat Buchanan about his campaign co-chairman who stepped aside yesterday, following reports linking him to white supremacist and right-wing militia groups. It was Buchanan, himself, who brought up the issue of Larry Pratt in his closing remarks at the debate.
PATRICK BUCHANAN: Larry stood by me when nobody else did back in 1992, and I'm going to stand by him. I want to tell the folks out there that are spearing him because Larry Pratt is a devout Christian, he's being attacked because he supports me, he's being attacked because he's defended Second Amendment rights his whole life, and that's why they're going after him.
MS. WARNER: But this morning, the issue continued to dog Buchanan. He didn't show up for a scheduled radio talk show in Manchester, but he did call in from his hotel room a half hour late and host Jerry Williams was ready.
JERRY WILLIAMS: Well, how come you didn't know? How come you said something about him last night that, in effect, says, that well, I practically endorse him, he's a good Christian and all of that?
PATRICK BUCHANAN: No, no, what we said, Jerry, is this: These allegations nobody knew, and he said this is, these are false and malicious, I abhor these groups, I was at some meeting where they turned up, I despise these folks, and I think I should take a leave of absence, and I would like to defend myself.
MS. WARNER: Steve Forbes, meanwhile, was speaking to a Rotary Club breakfast in New London, once again promoting his plan for a flat tax to replace the current system.
STEVE FORBES: Scrap it, kill it, bury it, and hope it never rises again to terrorize the American people.
MS. WARNER: Bob Dole was speaking to a breakfast crowd as well, members of the Chamber of Commerce in Portsmith.
SEN. ROBERT DOLE: Well, I appreciate very much being here this morning and we had a little meeting last night. I'm going to put in for another Purple Heart.
MS. WARNER: But it was Lamar Alexander who seemed the most upbeat. The polls show he is the only candidate with much momentum right now.
LAMAR ALEXANDER: What do you think of all these TV cameras? Have you ever seen this many TV cameras? No. I haven't either. It's nice to have them, isn't it?
MS. WARNER: And so, as this winter weekend approaches, New Hampshire has only the appearance of tranquility. In fact, New Hampshire voters remain as unpredictable and volatile as ever. FOCUS - POLITICAL WRAP
MS. FARNSWORTH: Now Shields & Gigot with analysis of the debate and other matters relating to Campaign '96. That's syndicated columnist Mark Shields and "Wall Street Journal" columnist Paul Gigot. They are both in Manchester, New Hampshire tonight. Paul, who do you think benefited most from the debate?
PAUL GIGOT, Wall Street Journal: Maybe Bob Dornan. I don't know. He seemed to come out as the referee to try to tell all these Republicans don't keep killing one another. So in that sense, he was making a very good broader political point, but I think that they all helped themselves I think in some respect. I thought that Lamar Alexander was probably introducing himself to the voters in a way that the others haven't. They've Steve Forbes's ads. They know Bob Dole and Pat Buchanan. But Lamar Alexander, a lot of voters were seen for the first time, and that may have helped him present himself in a way that impressed some voters. He doesn't have the high negatives that a lot of the other candidates do, so I think that he probably benefited the most from the debate.
MS. FARNSWORTH: Mark, who do you think benefited most?
MARK SHIELDS, Syndicated Columnist: Well, one survey, Elizabeth, today of people who have been undecided or uncertain showed, who had watched the debate, showed the Alan Keyes, former ambassador, got the biggest jump of anybody. He had most impressed people, which again fits Paul's theory that people hadn't seen him before and his message was unique last night. He was the one who was sort of lecturing all the other Republicans as they seemed to put on their green eye shades and talk about taxes and budgets and balancing and all the rest are saying you can do that, cut the taxes, balance the budget, and the problems of the country won't go away. But I think that probably Pat Buchanan did up until the closing remarks. I think that Pat Buchanan--any time--one candidate said to me the agenda that's being debated, I think Pat Buchanan did last night, then that candidate probably profits the most, even though he may be answering questions about his policy, and I think that Pat until his closing soliloquy had been in that position of dominating the dialogue.
MS. FARNSWORTH: And what dominated the dialogue was the economic, the combative economic nationalism, right?
MR. SHIELDS: That's right.
MS. FARNSWORTH: How do you explain the fact that it dominated the dialogue?
MR. SHIELDS: Well, I think there's two factors. I think in this- -I may get an argument from Paul on this, but I don't think there's any question the Contract With America is dead. Nobody talks about it. The distillation of the Contract With America in this campaign was Phil Gramm, the Senator from Texas, who withdrew this past week. Nobody talks in terms of the Congress and what a wonderful Congress we've had, what a great year we've had, there's no bragging, no boasting, there's no legislative agenda. So there's a void on the, on the campaign this year, and I think that Pat Buchanan through the passion of his convictions and through the saliency of his message has struck a chord, and when somebody does well with a message, other candidates often flock to it. Last night, Lamar Alexander, the former Tennessee governor, endorsed a new Marine Corps to patrol the border. That was a, that was a new idea. And, and Bob Dole since he's been in town this week has come out against obscene--not obscene, I guess, record profits and record layoffs, and those are Pat Buchanan's issues, and I think it's because Pat struck a chord with him.
MS. FARNSWORTH: Paul, what do youthink about that? Is it because he struck a chord, or is there something else happening here?
MR. GIGOT: Well, I think that first let me make a response to Mark on the Contract With America. I think for all of these candidates and for the voters, the Republican Contract agenda, the congressional agenda, was kind of discounted. It's assumed that it is going to go ahead, and Bob Dole, if anyone, is running on fulfilling that congressional agenda. He doesn't have an agenda of his own really.
MS. FARNSWORTH: And yet nobody talked about it, nobody mentioned the Contract With America or the various things the Republican revolution has tried to accomplish.
MR. GIGOT: Well, Bob Dole has talked about it. He said family tax credits, the capital gains reduction, he went through the list of things, and essentially is saying if you elect me, I'm the--I'm the President who can get it done. He kept talking about Bill Clinton blocking that agenda. All--
MS. FARNSWORTH: That's true.
MR. GIGOT: All we are is one election away from, from fulfilling that agenda. So I think Dole in a way has emerged as the candidate of that. Pat Buchanan is doing a couple of thing. One is he's trying to do something that the Republican Party hasn't done in 70 years, which is to talk about protectionism and tariffs. Back in the 1920's, the Republican Party was called the tariff party. One economist used to call tariffs the household remedy of the Republicans. Then you had the Smoot Hawley Tariff and it kind of, that issue died in American politics. It's been resurrected now with the new global competition, and Pat Buchanan is saying with some--he's trying to use this as his remedy for the problem of flat wages in this economy. He's saying he blames that economy on foreign competition, and so he's introducing something completely new in recent history to Republican politics, and I think that's why he's become the focal point because I think it threatens to divide the Republican Party right down the middle on economics.
MS. FARNSWORTH: Mark, do you agree with that? What do you think this says, Pat Buchanan's success says about the Republican Party?
MR. SHIELDS: Pat Buchanan is, is doing the unthinkable. He's criticizing CEO's. You have to understand that CEO's are sort of the pin-up boys of most Republican meetings, they are--they are listened to, they are heeded, they're admired, they're interviewed, and Pat Buchanan is saying, wait a minute, you have a higher responsibility. That responsibility I don't think has anything to do with tariffs nearly as much as the, the sense that American companies, driven by profits, driven by shareholders and stockholders, are indifferent to workers and demonstrate that time and again, and indifferent to communities where people have organized their lives and their hopes and their futures around the jobs there, and as their productivity has increased, their job security has become less. And I think that's what he's tapped into. He's reaching into an entirely different constituency from--that Republicans have appealed to in the past. Ronald Reagan did win those votes, but it was a different time and a different message. And I think the, I think the Buchanan phenomenon is, is not to be just put aside or something as protectionist. There is a class difference in the United States on the subject of free trade. In Washington, D.C., Elizabeth, overwhelming unanimity in favor of tree trade, because there's no $35 a week Taiwanese bureau chiefs coming to take anybody's job in Washington, D.C., I think that's one of the principal reasons. There are a lot of people who have seen their jobs go overseas and companies in pursuit of profit take those jobs overseas, and that anxiety and that vulnerability is almost palpable, even in a state with low unemployment like New Hampshire.
MS. FARNSWORTH: And what about Steve Forbes, what did he need to do last night, and did he accomplish it, Mark?
MR. SHIELDS: Well, I think Steve Forbes obviously was scalded by the, by the negativity of the campaign in Iowa and especially by the post mortems. One, the CNN-Gallup Poll showed that 2/3 of the people who think this is a negative campaign in New Hampshire blamed the Forbes campaign for the tone of negativity. He has scrapped that. He's returned to his positive message. He did do that last night, and the other thing he had to do was cut into Lamar Alexander, who has cut into him. They're drawing essentially from the same voter pool in this primary, and he had to raise doubts about Lamar Alexander which I think he did do last night. They make not take between now and Tuesday, but they're going to be around for a while after New Hampshire.
MS. FARNSWORTH: Paul, do you agree with that? Do you think that the attacks or raising the questions about Lamar Alexander's business deals, do you think that really hit home?
MR. GIGOT: Well, I think it raised some doubts about Lamar Alexander on the point of his greatest vulnerability, which is also a point that Bob Dole has been aiming at in his ads here, which scald Lamar Alexander as a liberal on spending, on crime, and on taxes, and that is how authentic is Lamar Alexander? He's running here on a pretty good message. It's a kind of retooled conservative message, culturally conservative, tax cuts and so on, and what Dole and the others are trying to do is say look at his record, look at his background, he's really not telling you--the Dole tag line on the ad is not what he pretends to be, which has echoes of the Fall campaign that the Republicans want to run against Bill Clinton. So that's where Forbes is going directly at Alexander. I think Mark is right when he says that they're competing for the same electorate. Lamar Alexander has to finish at least second here, or else Bob Dole, he could finish third if Bob Dole loses and go on. But if he finishes third and Bob Dole wins, he's going to be in trouble trying to get on from here, so- -from New Hampshire--so he's really got to take those votes from Steve Forbes.
MS. FARNSWORTH: Is there any sense of where Phil Gramm's votes are going, the votes he might have gotten in New Hampshire?
MR. GIGOT: Well, I think Pat Buchanan's fighting for them, and that's one of the reasons that I think he brought up Larry Pratt last night and defended him, because he's part of Gun Owners of America. The leader of Gun Owners of New Hampshire had endorsed Phil Gramm, and there's an awful lot of gun owners up here, and a lot of them had been supporting Phil Gramm. And I think Pat Buchanan said, I want to get some of those votes because a lot of pollsters think that with Pat Buchanan's high negatives--I mean, he's not--they're close to 50 percent, almost as high as Steve Forbes now--he maybe has a ceiling on how many more votes he can get. So he's got to keep that support that he's got and he's got to get the activists like gun owners and the abortion--anti- abortion activists to stick to him, and I think he was reaching out to them last night.
MS. FARNSWORTH: Mark, I want to talk about Larry Pratt, the campaign--the co-chair of the campaign, co-director of the campaign of Pat Buchanan. Why do you think he brought it up? None of the other candidates did. Pat Buchanan brought it up in his final remarks in the debate.
MR. SHIELDS: He did. I don't think it had the strategic dimension to it that Paul has ascribed to it. I don't think it was something that Pat thought about. Pat Buchanan in the litany of his personal virtues, loyalty ranks very, very high. Pat Buchanan was with Richard Nixon until the very last moment in the White House. Pat Buchanan did not cut on Ronald Reagan and Iran-Contra as several of his less--the sunshine soldiers did. And so Pat Buchanan, I think, last night decided to bring up the Larry Pratt thing because he felt Larry Pratt had been wrong. I think if he, if he just wanted to reach and send a message, Elizabeth, to the gun owners, they could have sent a direct mail piece over the weekend, telegrams, they've got those lists, and say, look, they're going after our guy because of us and we belong to the same thing, we believe in the Second Amendment, and all the rest of it. I think Pat Buchanan's basic combativeness, his viscera, took, took over last night in the closing moments when he made that, what to me was a tactical mistake.
MS. FARNSWORTH: What do you think about that, Paul?
MR. GIGOT: Well, Elizabeth, I think what he was doing--I mean, I agree with Mark that loyalty is something that Pat Buchanan prizes, but there's also a kind of a cultural identity message which Pat Buchanan is trying to send out. He's trying to say to all these people, you've been disenfranchised for a long time, the establishment and the Republican Party and the Democratic Party doesn't pay any attention to you, people who are anti-abortion, people who like guns, people who favor protectionism, I'm on your side, and he was trying to send that message to those gun owners out there that we know the establishment, everybody's against you, but I'm not, and I'm big enough to stand up and say this on national TV. It was a deliberate play to their cultural identity.
MS. FARNSWORTH: Okay, thank you very much, both of you. Stay warm up there.
MR. SHIELDS: Okay. Thank you, Elizabeth. UPDATE - FRAGILE PEACE
MS. FARNSWORTH: Still ahead on the NewsHour, the fragile peace in Bosnia and a drug rehabilitation program. Charlayne Hunter-Gault has the Bosnia story.
MS. HUNTER-GAULT: Growing pressure on the Dayton Peace Accords over the past two weeks in Bosnia prompted the United States to call an urgent meeting in Rome tomorrow. The region's three leader were summoned to attend their first meeting since the Dayton talks in November. A late starter will no doubt be NATO's discovery of an alleged terrorist training camp run by Iranians near Sarajevo. NATO troops from all three allied zones were pursuing foreigners from the training camp today. We start with a report from David Lindsay of Independent Television News.
DAVID LINDSAY, ITN: The NATO troops made their discovery at a chalet in the former ski resorts of Central Bosnia. Inside, they found an extensive armory which included high-powered rifles, explosives hidden in toys, and machine guns. The IFOR commander in Bosnia visited the site and was appalled.
ADM. LEIGHTON SMITH, NATO Commander, Bosnia: It's an abomination. There have clearly flourished terrorist training activities. These weapons here, in particular, this plastic child's toy with plastic explosives and a detonator inserted in it, these are weapons. This is designed, as you saw earlier, to have someone step on this and blow a child's foot off.
DAVID LINDSAY: Three of those arrested at the camp were presumed tobe Iranian, and they took little or no precautions to hide their identity. They'd even left, just lying around, plane tickets from Tehran. Under the terms of the Dayton Peace Accord, all foreign militia had to be out of the country by last month. Adm. Leighton Smith wanted an explanation and went straight to the Bosnian president, Alija Izetbegovic.
ADM. LEIGHTON SMITH: I told President Izetbegovic last night that we had, we have taken this place and that there was some very discouraging evidence in it, that there was, there were foreign forces involved, and that there were training activities going on in contravention to the agreement. President Izetbegovic related to me his convictions that this was an old training activity, that it was, in fact, being closed down.
DAVID LINDSAY: Even if the camp was in the process of being shut down, it'll come as little consolation to IFOR commanders who have consistently warned of the threat of Mujahedeen guerrillas operating in Bosnia. Meanwhile, in the Serb-controlled Ilija suburb of Sarajevo, local police, backed by about 60 heavily armed French soldiers, arrested two suspected snipers after shots were fired at civilian buses. The French troops surrounded the building, while the Serb police moved in. Under IFOR's mandate, the foreign soldiers were not allowed to make the arrest. Three people had been wounded in sniping incidents since the service from Ilija to Central Sarajevo opened on Wednesday for the first time since the 43-month siege of the city was lifted in December. There were also problems in another Serb suburb today, with locals not burying their dead but exhuming them. They were taking their relatives and friends from the local cemetery before it came under Muslim-Croat authority. This man said he didn't know where the bodies would be taken, except that it would be to a Serb area. Such incidents underline the divide between the former warring factions and come on the eve of an emergency summit between the leaders of Bosnia, Croatia, and Serbia.
MS. HUNTER-GAULT: Now for an assessment of the situation in Bosnia and the prospects for the Rome summit, we talk with two journalists. Roy Gutman covers international security for "Long Island Newsday." He won a Pulitzer Prize for his coverage of Bosnia in 1993. He was last in Bosnia in January. And Melinda Liu, diplomatic correspondent for "Newsweek" Magazine, she traveled with Sec. Christopher to Bosnia last week. And starting with you, Melinda, let's start with the NATO arrest today. How much of a blow is that to the Dayton peace process?
MELINDA LIU, Newsweek Magazine: I think it's a rather extraordinary incident. It, for the first time, gives concrete evidence that these foreign fighters which the U.S. has always been complaining about were posing a very real and I would say quite blood-curdling threat to IFOR soldiers. It also underscores the fact that the Bosnian-Muslims, who have often been seen as the victims in this conflict, were also among those who are not complying fully with the Dayton Accords, so I think this is a very important event.
MS. HUNTER-GAULT: Roy Gutman, you were there not too long ago. Do you have any sense of they were out looking for the IFOR forces today, were out looking for other foreign Iranians in--do you have any sense of how many there might be or what the strength of their force might be?
ROY GUTMAN, Long Island Newsday: The Bosnian army officials said that the total was under 300. Other people have given estimates up to 3,000, but that was the official number. It seems to me that there must be more now and that obviously NATO has to do a search.
MS. HUNTER-GAULT: Do you have any sense of what they might be up to? Is there any talk around the State Department about this? Because there were reports in the press today that they were going to attack NATO forces, they were obviously with the kinds of weaponry they had disguised as toys, it wasn't just NATO, I mean, but--
MS. LIU: U.S. officials are convinced that this paraphernalia was terrorist in nature. Now the question of what were the Iranians up to in Bosnia I think is very complicated and has some history. Basically, during the years of the western arms embargo, Iran was a very close supporter of the Bosnian government in Sarajevo and gave them weapons and, indeed, sent whole units to help fight alongside Bosnian-Muslims. So you can see that perhaps the government might be a little reluctant to try to kick these people all out now that peace seems to be on its way to the Balkans. But, nonetheless, the Dayton peace accords require that all foreign forces leave. They should be gone quite a while ago.
MS. HUNTER-GAULT: Well, they should have been gone last month. I mean, you were there. What was the feeling?
MR. GUTMAN: They were on their way out at that point, but they hadn't all left when I left.
MS. HUNTER-GAULT: Of course, we had to say--the Bosnian government today said that this was anti--just the opposite of what was being reported.
MR. GUTMAN: But it's inexplicable. What were they doing with toys turned into land mines? I mean, why--who were they going to use them against and how? And why do they have all the details about IFOR? It doesn't look good at all, and the Bosnian government really owes an explanation, and they really owe NATO all their data on all of their fighters. NATO has the right to do it, and they should demand not just this one be cleared up, but they should demand all the data.
MS. HUNTER-GAULT: Well, what is your read on the timing of this raid? I mean, what's being said around the State Department on the eve of the Rome summit?
MS. LIU: It's certainly very, very convenient. Officially, the timing was opportunistic. What I was--what I understood is that this, this former ski chalet was under surveillance for quite some time. The presence of the Iranians were known for quite some time. And what happened was a--what I was told was a group of local hunters stumbled upon the French surveillance team that was watching this house, and so it was figured that now was the time to raid the place, otherwise, I mean, security had been breached, maybe they'll find out that we're here, so that's what prompted this right now.
MS. HUNTER-GAULT: I see.
MS. LIU: However, it is very very convenient that it comes right, you know, as this summit in Rome opens. It gives, it gives the Western patrons of the Balkans peace process a chance to come down hard on everyone who's not complying, and indeed, all three parties have examples--
MS. HUNTER-GAULT: Not just the Serbs?
MS. LIU: Exactly.
MS. HUNTER-GAULT: Who had the most pressure put on them.
MS. LIU: Exactly.
MS. HUNTER-GAULT: Roy Gutman, briefly tell us what is the purpose of the talks in Rome, because this is the late starter to the talks. There were other things that were fraying, but how would you put it in terms, fraying the peace process, or--
MR. GUTMAN: They're on the edge of a crisis. If this continues much longer, it's being frayed, really we can see now, in three different directions. The Serbs have not complied with the Dayton requirements that Karadzic, the political leader, and Mladic, the military leader, should be deposed, removed from power, and basically turned over to the International Tribunal in the Hague.
MS. HUNTER-GAULT: Because they've been indicted for war crimes.
MR. GUTMAN: They've been indicted for war crimes. They also have not admitted NATO, so far as I just learned, to all of their weapons' sites, and including Honpiesek, where Gen. Mladic operates out of. This is the underground bunker he has. Then there's a problem on the other side of the country in Mostar where a European Union mediator has proposed a plan to reunite this once beautiful and really fabulously beautiful city which is now Croats and Muslims. The Croats rejected this plan violently, attacked him, his car, fired bullets at him, and he--the Bosnian Croats seem to have support from the Croats in Croatia, that is to say President Tudjman, and what they've done, or at least sympathy, and this means that the plan is a dead letter right now, so it is--and Mostar is the heart of this federation of Muslims and Croats. It is American-sponsored. It must be saved and they don't really have--they have to do it this weekend.
MS. HUNTER-GAULT: And the Muslim-Croats fed--confederation is very fragile. I mean--
MR. GUTMAN: It's overworked. It's just about two years old. It was created in the Washington agreement. It stopped what had been the second war within the war in Bosnia, and the American government, Bill Clinton at that time didn't want to send any troops to the area, so he just let it sit and really fester. He never forced it into being when they signed the agreement. Now, two years later, you see that is even in worse shape.
MS. HUNTER-GAULT: And you mentioned the indicted war criminals. You know, there are also reports that these two guys, Mladic and Karadzic, are going back and forth between NATO checkpoints. I mean, what's the story on that? If they're indicted, is there some responsibility for NATO to turn them over, or what?
MS. LIU: It's a very good point. It should be that the IFOR troops are obliged to detain these people if, if they happen upon them. Now, how it's possible to turn a blind eye when they're going through checkpoints run by NATO troops is unclear to me, but I can tell you that our stringer in Sarajevo happened to accidentally bump into Karadzic in a town and interview him, and you know, to get there Karadzic had to go with a convoy of very obvious, you know, cars, Mercedes and what not, through a number of checkpoints.
MS. HUNTER-GAULT: This also, the whole business of suspected war criminals, was part of the precipitating thing. Tell me a little bit about that, because that happened this week too, that there were some arrests, and just briefly.
MR. GUTMAN: Two top, or one really top officer, Gen. Jukic, stumbled into a Bosnian government police position, and was arrested, along with a colonel. The, the--Jukic was the deputy commander of the Bosnian army in charge of logistics, and apparently they were in civilian clothes, and the State Department says that they were in a stolen car full of arms. The Bosnians arrested them, notified the International Tribunal, which asked them to hold onto these people, and subsequently, two of them, the general and the colonel, were extradited to the Hague by NATO. It's the most amazing thing because they, they just did it in a matter of hours.
MS. HUNTER-GAULT: And that's precipitated part of the crisis.
MR. GUTMAN: Well, it is a very serious problem for the Bosnian Serbs and probably for the Serbs of Serbia, because Gen. Jukic in charge of logistics knows everything about the support that Serbia has given to the Bosnian Serbs and what Milosevic as the peacemaker has been doing on the sly in violation of not just Dayton but really the last four years of sanctions.
MS. HUNTER-GAULT: So, so--and is there anything else that's going to be taken up that's really a part of the potentially explosive issues there in Rome?
MS. LIU: I think one of the overarching issues here is the acknowledgement that some of the very strict and technical military tasks that were set out for the NATO deployment may not be the problem. In fact, the strictly military aspects are going quite well. But some of these messy hard-to-categorize civilian and quasi-military issues are, are very problematic. You know, the question of who can detain a war criminal, where will they be tried, who's responsible for removing these foreign fighters--
MS. HUNTER-GAULT: And these things weren't foreseen in Dayton?
MS. LIU: Well, it was foreseen there'd be a problem, but--
MR. GUTMAN: They didn't set priorities. You know, they, they both wanted peace, which is to say a separation of forces and the arrest of war criminals who you'd have to talk to in order to separate the forces, and they didn't set a priority between the two of them.
MS. HUNTER-GAULT: Now, who's going to be meeting in Rome? I mean, the United States and the three leaders, who else?
MS. LIU: Members of the contact group, which is largely European representatives who've been involved in trying to resolve this Balkan conflict, Balkans conflict over a number of years. Apparently, there was some idea that the contact group wasn't needed anymore after the Dayton Peace Accords were forged, and the American envoy to the Balkans, Richard Holbrooke, foresaw that the group should stay in place because probably there will be requirements for getting everyone together and beating people over the head and shoulders and get them to comply, and indeed that's what happened.
MS. HUNTER-GAULT: So what is the priority here? I mean, what is the goal and what is the objective?
MR. GUTMAN: I think they want all the parties to sign up to the so-called rules of the road for what to do about war criminals. They simply--
MS. HUNTER-GAULT: Is that the priority?
MR. GUTMAN: That's one priority. The Bosnian government has, the Serbs have not, the Croats have not. And secondly, they've got to resolve Mostar. They have to come up with an agreement. I mean, frankly, they will come up with another piece of paper, and whether it's implemented is a big question. Thirdly, the Bosnian government must finally decide whether it's going to evict these foreigners or not. But I think the broader problem is there is a sense of impunity, you know, of getting away with it, that exists now almost on all sides in Bosnia. And NATO has the means to enforce the Dayton accords and hasn't done it until today. Today we've seen a rather dramatic example. And so you almost need to create a new sense of direction and a new sense of purpose.
MS. HUNTER-GAULT: And the United States thinks that that's what it has to do? You think that's what the State Department and Holbrooke is going to do this weekend?
MS. LIU: Well, it certainly, the carrots and the sticks in this process have been clear, but the sticks have to be used now in a very forceful way. It'll be a test of U.S. leverage.
MS. HUNTER-GAULT: Could this thing blow up, I mean, at this point, or will this get, will this be a bump in the road that's smoothed out by the end of the weekend, do you think?
MR. GUTMAN: I think thewar crimes issue or the Mostar issue, each--any one is sufficient to destroy the Dayton process.
MS. HUNTER-GAULT: All right. Well, we'll see. Thank you both for joining us. FOCUS - DRUG COURT
MS. FARNSWORTH: Finally tonight, one community's attempt to deal with drug abusers who repeatedly commit non-violent crimes to support their habits. Betty Ann Bowser reports from Denver.
JUDGE WILLIAM MEYER, Denver Drug Court: People of the state of Colorado versus Tyrone Reece.
BETTY ANN BOWSER: Tyrone Reece is a drug addict. He's addicted to crack cocaine. It's cost him custody of his children, a steady job, and his self-respect.
JUDGE WILLIAM MEYER: Mr. Reece, you've obtained a job, is that correct, sir?
TYRONE REECE: Yes.
MS. BOWSER: But things just might turn around now for the 30- year-old father of two, because he's in the hands of Denver's year- old drug court, where drug addiction is addressed head on, as well as the crime it drives.
JUDGE WILLIAM MEYER, Denver Drug Court: In the middle '80s, the District Attorney's Office filed about 400 drug cases. This year, 1995, the Denver Drug Court will handle 2,000 felony drug cases.
MS. BOWSER: Presiding Judge William Meyer says before Drug Court, most non-violent offenders cycled in and out of the system because no one dealt with the drug addiction that landed them there in the first place.
JUDGE WILLIAM MEYER: They'd be placed on probation. They wouldn't succeed on probation and end up in intensive supervision probation, fail there, move into community corrections, and then eventually into the Department of Corrections.
COUNSELOR: [talking to man] And your off days are what?
MAN: Saturday and Sundays.
MS. BOWSER: Drug Court takes a more comprehensive approach. Before offenders appear before the judge, a counselor evaluates their criminal history and drug problem, then the court puts them in prison or on probation. But either way, in 90 percent of the cases, the offender will be treated for drugs, and the judge will monitor the case closely.
COUNSELOR: You get off at 1.
MS. BOWSER: Denver District Attorney Bill Ritter likes this approach.
WILLIAM RITTER, Denver District Attorney: What we are doing is taking a bunch of people who get probation and instead of giving them probation and saying good-bye until their relapse, we're telling them we're going to visit you, or you're going to visit us on a weekly basis. And then at a later period, you're going to come in twice a month, but we're going to watch you, and we're going to monitor it, and every time you fail, there will be a consequence.
MS. BOWSER: Not showing up for court can result in a few nights in jail, so can testing positive for drugs or missing a counseling session. As offenses stack, so do the penalties. Meyer says punishment is immediate.
JUDGE WILLIAM MEYER: I put 'em in jail for a couple of days for relapse and they come back to me and I see they have an absolutely clean record for a long period of time, and I say, got your attention, didn't I, and they say, you sure did.
MS. BOWSER: 11 percent of court defendants, mostly big-time pushers with long arrest records, are sent to prison, but non- violent, first-time offenders are given a chance to turn their lives around. Almost half of all Drug Court defendants are given deferred judgment. Denver Public Defender Charles Garcia says that means if offenders successfully complete the program, usually within a year, their cases are closed.
CHARLES GARCIA, Denver Public Defender: You never have a felony conviction on your record. If you go to apply for a number of jobs, I mean, I think more than half the jobs that people apply for, if they have to fill out an application, ask you the question: Have you ever been convicted of a felony? And the answer then is no.
WOMAN: Shantell Hopkins.
MS. BOWSER: In some cases, deferred judgment has worked. At Drug Court's first graduation ceremony, more than 20 individuals walked out of the court for what they hoped was the last time. Shantell Hopkins, a mother of two young girls, had been arrested in November for possession of cocaine. It was her first felony arrest but not the first time Hopkins had used drugs. She has been battling a seven-year addiction.
SHANTELL HOPKINS: But I asked Judge Meyer, would he send me to a treatment program, and within that program, the program has taught me how to know who the real Shantell is again, you know, to let me get in touch with myself. It has shown me the way to know myself. It gave me a lot of knowledge, you know. It made me think about my kids, you know, that they need me now.
MS. BOWSER: Not everyone succeeds, however. 22 percent of defendants fail at one time or another to appear for court. Four months after his first appearance before Judge Meyer, Tyrone Reece didn't show up for a routine progress report. Judge Meyer issued a warrant for Reece's arrest. After spending the night in jail, a rumpled, tired Reece appeared before Judge Meyer.
JUDGE WILLIAM MEYER: Mr. Reece, you failed to appear for your fifth review on November 14th. Do you want to tell me what the deal was?
TYRONE REECE: Well, my daughter got, my daughter got sick the week before that, and that Saturday is when I found out that my daughter was in the hospital.
JUDGE WILLIAM MEYER: I guess I don't understand why your daughter being in the hospital is a reason for you not showing up for court or at least calling us and letting us know what the status is and that you need to rescheduled the court date. You didn't do anything.
MS. BOWSER: Reece, homeless and destitute, asked the judge to place him in a drug treatment program run by the Salvation Army.
JUDGE WILLIAM MEYER: Mr. Reece, I mean, you go through periods where you do real well, and then you just kind of fall off the wagon and disappear and why do you think Salvation Army is going to work for you?
TYRONE REECE: I'm not making it any way else. This is at least one good chance for me to turn around and do something right.
MS. BOWSER: Two hours after his court appearance, Reece entered the Salvation Army Drug Treatment Program. For 30 days, Reece had contact with no one on the outside, including his family. The court requires drug treatment providers to update Judge Meyer on the progress of defendants. If an offender tests positive for cocaine or heroin, the judge learns of the results within 48 hours.
JUDGE WILLIAM MEYER: I have a computer on my desk. I pull up the treatment record and they cannot shine me off on how they're doing in treatment because I have the actual facts in front of me.
MS. BOWSER: Eugene Strauber says the court must be prepared for setbacks because not all defendants are matched to the proper drug treatment program the first time. Strauber heads Cenikor, an in- patient program that specializes in treating hard core drug users.
EUGENE STRAUBER, Cenikor: People are not going to always comply with the treatment plan that they commit to as part of their sentence, and I think their biggest challenge will be how to deal with that. Do you just bring the person back and send 'em to jail, do whatever time they originally are going to get, or do you try something else?
MS. BOWSER: Tyrone Reece is a good example. The Salvation Army Drug Treatment Program had no impact on him. Denver police arrested him for drug possession and peddling one day after he left the program. Reece was charged with two felonies. He recalls facing an angry Judge Meyer.
TYRONE REECE: When I first walked in, the only thing he said to me is, "Mr. Reece, I don't want to hear nothing from you." And I said, "But, Your Honor,"--he said, "Nothing."
MS. BOWSER: Meyer placed Reece in a community corrections program called Peer One. The highly structured program provides intensive in-patient drug treatment. If Reece fails here, the only other option is prison. For the first time, Reece says he's being held accountable for his action. Peer One counselors and other recovering addicts confront Reece daily in group sessions.
WOMAN: And aren't I always asking you, Tyrone, what are you doing? True or not?
TYRONE REECE: That's true.
WOMAN: So what are you doing? I mean, obviously, you're not doing what you were sent down there to be doing.
TYRONE REECE: I would be, or I take breaks or something, you know.
WOMAN: Yeah. You take a lot of them. You're lazy, aren't you?
MS. BOWSER: Reece seems to be responding to treatment according to public defender Garcia.
CHARLES GARCIA, Denver Public Defender: When Tyrone was in court the other day, the judge talked to him, the judge was smiling and laughing with him, because he's doing so well. The District Attorney shook his hand and congratulated him. I said to him, "You're getting fat, Tyrone," and he said, "Mr. Garcia, I'm just getting healthy."
MS. BOWSER: But not everyone is convinced specialized courts will put a dent in the country's drug problem. John Walters served briefly as acting drug czar during the Bush administration.
JOHN WALTERS, Former Drug Czar: Drug courts are seen as the solution to drug-related crime and addiction; they are not, because drug-related crime, a big chunk of that, the largest chunk is repeat offending--repeat offenses, and violent offenses, and, umm, umm, they're not a good means of treating, umm, long-term hard-core addicts. And the dangerous attraction to drug courts is that they are a cheap, easy solution to the problem of drugs and crime. And they're neither cheap when done right, nor are they easy.
MS. BOWSER: In 1995, Attorney General Janet Reno awarded Denver Drug Court $400,000. In the 1996 budget, President Clinton requested $150 million to help support the more than 40 drug courts around the country.
JANET RENO, Attorney General: The drug court is a means of interrupting that cycle of drug usage.
MS. BOWSER: While the concept of drug court has bipartisan support, Congress would like to see its funding become part of overall law enforcement block grants. States then can decide whether they want to spend a portion of that money for local drug courts. Since Denver Drug Court is now operating at twice its capacity and handles nearly half of the felony caseload in the city, Judge Meyer is concerned about any possible loss of funds. He has prepared data that he hopes will persuade the legislature to provide state funding that he hopes will ensure the future of his court, no matter what actions are taken on the national level. RECAP
MS. FARNSWORTH: Again, the major stories of this Friday, NATO forces in Bosnia seized weapons and arrested 11 in a raid on a suspected terrorist training camp outside Sarajevo. The leaders of Bosnia, Croatia, and Serbia will meet in Rome tomorrow for a two- day summit, and this evening, an Amtrak passenger train collided with a commuter train in Silver Spring, Maryland. The Capitol Limited passenger train had just left Washington bound for Chicago. A fire department official said several people were injured and at least one of the trains was on fire. We'll see you Monday night. Have a nice weekend. I'm Elizabeth Farnsworth. Thank you and good night.
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This episode's headline: Campaign '96; Political Wrap; Fragile Peace; Drug Court. ANCHOR: ELIZABETH FARNSWORTH; GUESTS: PAUL GIGOT, Wall Street Journal; MARK SHIELDS, Syndicated Columnist; MELINDA LIU, Newsweek Magazine; ROY GUTMAN, Long Island Newsday; CORRESPONDENTS: MARGARET WARNER; CHARLAYNE HUNTER-GAULT; DAVID LINDSAY; BETTY ANN BOWSER;
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