PBS NewsHour; September 3, 2021, 6:00pm-7:00pm PDT

- ♪ - JUDY: GOOD EVENING, I'M JUDY - ON THE "NEWSHOUR" TONIGHT, - IDA'S WRATH. - THE DEATH TOLL RISES AS A WIDE - STRETCH OF THE U.S. FROM THE - GULF COAST TO THE NORTHEAST - COMES TO GRIPS WITH THE LONG - RECOVERY AHEAD FROM THE MASSIVE - STORM. - THEN CONFRONTING GRIEF. A - , PERSONAL REFLECTION FROM THE - CHAPLAIN AT DOVER AIR FORCE BASE - WHO OVERSAW AMERICAN SOLDIERS' - FINAL RETURN HOME AND THE HUMAN - COST OF OUR NATION'S LONGEST - WAR. - >> I HAVE ID TO THOUSANDS OF - FAMILY MBERS, WE THANK YOU FOR - AND HONOR THE SACRIFICE OF YOUR - SON OR DAUGHTER, BUT WE ALSO - HONOR YOUR SACRIFICE, WHICH GOES - ON FOREVER. - JUDY: AND IT'S FRIDAY, - JONATHAN CAPEHART AND MICHAEL - GERSON DISCUSS TEXAS'

- RESTRICTIVE NEW ABORTION LAW AND - HOW THE PRESIDENT IS HANDLING - THESE MOMENTS OF CRISIS IN - AFGHANISTAN AND HERE AT HOME. - ALL THAT AND MORE ON TONIGHT'S - "PBS NEWSHOUR." - ♪ - >> MAJOR FUNDING BY THE PBS - NEWSHOUR HAS BEEN PROVIDED BY, - ♪ - >> BNSF RAILWAY, - CONSUMER CELLULAR, - JOHNSON & JOHNSON, - FINANCIAL SERVICES FIRM RAYMOND - JAMES. - E JOHN S. AND JAMES L. KNIGHT - FOUNDATION, MORE AT KF.ORG. - >> AND WITH THE ONGOING SUPPORT

- OF THESE INSTITUTIONS, AND - FRIENDS OF THE NEWSHOUR. - THIS PROGRAM POSSIBLE BY THE - CORPORATION FOR PUBLIC - BROADCASTING AND BY - CONTRIBUTIONS TO YOUR PBS - STATION BY VIEWERS LIKE YOU. - THANK YOU. - JUDY: THE DEATH TOLL FROM IDA - GREW TODAY AND FIRST RESPONDERS - IN SOME PLACES WENT DOOR TO DOOR - TO DRAW UP LISTS OF THE MISSING. - AT LEAST 49 PEOPLE WERE KILLED - IN FIVE STATES IN THE NORTHEAST, - INCLUDING AT LEAST 25 IN THE - STATE OF NEW JERSEY. - PRESIDENT BIDEN TRAVELED TO - LOUISIANA TODAY TO SEE THE - DEVASTATION FROM IDA, - WHICH FIRST HIT THE GULF COAST - AS A HURRICANE NEARLY A WEEK - AGO. - ABOUT 816,000 PEOPLE IN THE - REGION WITHOUT POWER AND MANY - WITHOUT WATER.

- BUT HOPES GREW FOR RESRING - SOME OF THAT NEXT WEEK. - ROBY CHAVEZ, OUR COMMUNITIES - CORRESPONDENT IN NEW ORLEANS, - BEGINS WITH THIS REPORT. - ROBY: TENS OF THOUSANDS OF - PEOPLE ACROSS THE NORTHEAST ARE - WITHOUT POWER AS MANY START TO - RECOVER FROM THE PATH OF DEATH - AND DESTRUCTION LEFT BEHIND FROM - HURRICANE IDA. - THE DEATH TOLL WAS THE HIGHEST - IN NEW JERSEY, WHERE MOST - DROWNED AFTER BEING TRAPPED IN - THEIR CARS. - BEFORE ANDFTER SATELLITE - IMAGES FROM ACROSS THE STATE - SHOW HOW CATASTROPHIC THE - FLOODING IS. - THE FOCUS NOW, RECOVERY AND - PREVENTION. - NEW JERSEY GOVERNOR PHIL MURPHY. - >> IT IS QUITE CLEAR OUR STATE - AND OUR NATION DOES NOT HAVE THE - INFRASTRUCTURE TO MEET THIS - MOMENT OR THE FUTURE AS IT - RELATES TO THESE STORMS WHICH - ARE MORE FREQUENT AND MORE - INTENSE. - ROBY: IN PENNSYLVANIA,DRONES - CAPTURED SEVERE FLOODWATERS THAT - CONSUMED COMMUNITIES AND - HIGHWAYS.

- RIVER NEARLY SWELLED ONTO THE - BRIDE. IT HAS SINCE DROPPED - BELOW FLOOD STAGE. - RESIDENTS WERE SHOCKED BY THE - UNPRECEDENTED RAINFALL. - THOSE VISITING FROM OUT OF TOWN - WERE ALSO CAUGHT OFF GUARD. - >> WE WERE STAYING AT THE - RESIDENCE INN WHEN THE WATERS - ROSE MUCH HIGHER AND FASTER THAN - WE EVER ANTICIPATED AND FOUND - OURSELVES TRAPPED. - ROBY: IN NEW YORK CITY, - COMMUTERS RELYING ON THE TRANSIT - SYSTEM WERE MET WITH DELAYS AS - OPERATIONS SLOWLY RECOVERED. - FLOODWATERS BLOCKED PASSAGE-WAYS - IN CENTRAL PARK. - SEVERAL DEATHS WERE ALSO - REPORTED ACROSS NEW YORK, MANY - OF THEM TRAPPED IN THEIR - BASEMENT UNITS, - INCLUDING A TODD OR AND HIS TWO - PARENTS IN QUEENS. - SOME MANAGED TO GET OUT. - >> THE WATER GOES TO MY NECK. SO - MY NEIGHBOR IN THE SECOND FLOOR, - HE HOLD MY HAND AND I HOLD MY

- WIFE'S HAND, AND MY DAD'S HAND, - SO WE CAN GET OUT FROM THE - BASEMENT. - ROBY: NEW YORK GOVERNOR KATHY - HOCHUL SAID THE STATE WILL - INVESTIGATE ANY SHORTCOMINGS IN - THE EARLY WARNING ADVISORIES BUT - NOTED THAT THE STORM TOOK - EXPERTS BY SURPRISE. - >> THOSE WARNINGS WERE THERE, - BUT WHAT WAS NOT ADDRESSED WAS - WARNINGS PERHAPS IN DIFFERENT - LANGUAGES. - ROBY: MEANWHILE IN ST. JOHN - PARISH, LOUISIANA, PRESIDENT - BIDEN MET WITH OFFICIALS WHERE - HE WAS BRIEFED ON HURRICANE - IDA'S DESTRUCTION. - HE LATER REAFFIRMED THAT FEDERAL - EMERGENCY RELIEF IS ON THE WAY. - PRES. BIDEN: THERE'S MORE TO - COME TO RESTORE POWER AS FAST AS - WE POSSIBLY CAN. FASTER THAN - ANYTHING THAT HAPPENED DURING - KATRINA. - ROBY: IN SOUTHEASTERN LOUISIANA, - ENTIRE SMALL TOWNS WERE LEFT - DEVASTATED BY STORM DAMAGE. - ONE OF THE COASTAL COMMUNITIES - THAT PRESIDENT BIDEN SURVEYED - DURING AN AERIAL TOUR WAS GRAND - ISLE. - PILES OF RUBBLE LAY WHERE - BUILDINGS AND HOMES ONCE STOOD. - OFFICIALS SAY THE ISLAND IS - UNINHABITABLE AND NOT ACCESSIBLE - BY LAND.

- AND IN THE TOW OF INDEPENDENCE, - LOUISIANA OFFICIALS ARE - INVESTIGATING THE DEATHS OF FOUR - NURSING HOME RESIDENTS FOLLOWING - THEIR EVACUATION AHEAD OF THE - STORM. - MORE THAN 800 NURSING HOME - RESIDENTS WERE BEING HOUSED IN - UNSAFE AND UNSANITARY CONDITIONS - INSIDE A WAREHOUSE. - REPORTS OF OVERCROWDING AND - PATIENTS LAYING ON THE FLOOR IN - FECES AND URINE. - RESIDENTS ON THURSDAY WERE - TRANSPORTED FROM THE FACILITY TO - HOSPITALS FOR MEDICAL - EVALUATION. AT LEAST FOURTEEN - -- 14 WERE HOSPITALIZED. - FAMILY MEMBERS WERE OUTRAGED. - >> I THOUGHT THEY WERE COMING TO - A NURSING HOME. - TH THEY WERE GOING TO HAVE - NURSING BEDS AND THEY WOULD BE - TAKEN CARE LIKE THEY WERE IN A - NURSING FACILITY. - >> ELDERLY PEOPLE SHOULD NOT BE - TREATED LIKE THIS. NOBODY SHOULD - BE TREATED LIKE THIS. - ROBY: ACROSS THE STATE, FOOD, - WATER, AND FUEL REMAIN SCARCE - -- UTILITY TEAMS RESTORED - ELECTRICITY TO SEVERAL HOSPITALS

- NEAR NEW ORLEANS AND BATON ROUGE - AND POWER IS EXPECTED TO BE - RESTORED IN SOME AREAS BY THE - MIDDLE OF NEXT WEEK. - A VITAL NECESSITY, ESPECIALLY IN - A STATE REELING FROM A - RESURGENCE IN COVID-19 - INFECTIONS THAT HAS OVERWHELMED - HOSPITALS. - WHILE NEW ORLEANS' STORM - INFRASTRUCTURE PREVENTED SOME - FLOODING, RURAL AREAS REMAIN - IN THE DARK WITH A LONG RECOVERY - AHEAD. - FOR THE PBS NEWSHOUR, I'M ROBY - CHAVEZ. - JUDY: AS ROBY SHOWED US, NEW - YORK CITY WAS HIT WITH HISTORIC - RAINFALL AND ENORMOUS FLOODING. - AT LEAST A DOZEN PEOPLE DIED IN - NEW YORK, MOST TRAPPED IN THEIR - FLOODED BASEMENT APARTMENTS. - OUTGOING MAYOR BILL DEBLASIO - ANNOUNCED TODAY THE CITY WILL - ISSUE MORE EVACUATION ORDERS IN - THE FUTURE, SENDING FIRST - RESPONDERS DOOR TO DOOR AND - ALERTING BASEMENT RESIDENTS. - JUSTIN BRANNAN IS A NEW YORK - CITY COUNCILMAN REPRESENTING - BROOKLYN. - HE'S ALSO THE CHAIRMAN OF THE - CITY'S COMMITTEE ON RESILIENCY - AND WATERFRONTS. - MR. BRANNAN, THANK YOU FOR - JOINING US.

- AS YOU SAID, THERE ARE A LOT OF - WATERFRONTS IN NEW YORK CITY AND - A COUPLE DAYS AFTER THE STORM, - WHAT IS YOUR UNDERSTANDING OF - WHAT HAPPENED? - >> PEOPLE FORGET THAT NEW YORK - CITY IS ONE OF AMERICA'S MOST - HURRICANE VULNERABLE URBAN - CENTERS. - WE HAVE 520 MILES OF COASTLINE, - FOUR OF THE FIVE BOROUGHS OF THE - CITY OF NEW YORK OUR COASTLINE, - OUR ISLAND -- OR ISLANDS - CONNECTED TO ONE. - WE ARE STILL DEALING WITH THE - AFTERMATH OF HURRICANE SDY AND - THAT WILL BE NINE YEARS COME - OCTOBER. - WHAT HAS OUR CITY ACCOMPLISHED - IN THOSE 10 YEARS OUTSIDE OF - LOWER MANHATTAN? VERY LITTLE. - IN THE HOUR -- OUTER BOROUGHS WE - GET THOUGHTS AND PRAYERS, MOPS - AND BUCKETS AND WE SPARE NO - EXPENSE FOR MANHATTAN. - THAT'S WHAT WE FELT THE OTHER - NIGHT. - OUR SEWER SYSTEM IS OVER 100 - YEARS OLD. - IT DID NOT FAIL ON WEDNESDAY

- NIGHT, IT WORKED EXACTLY AS IT - WAS DESIGNED, BOILER -- HOWEVER - IT WAS DESIGNED 100 YEARS AGO - AND WE WERE NOT HAVING STORMS - LIKE THIS. - IT IS FRUSTRATING BECAUSE WE - FEEL LIKE WE HAVE ALL BEEN - SOUNDING THE ALARM FOR A LONG - TIME AND NO ONE IS LISTENING. - JUDY: WHAT DO YOU BELIEVE SHOULD - HAVE BEEN DONE SPECIFICALLY THAT - WOULD HAVE HELPED PEOPLE, FOR - EXAMPLE IN THESE BASEMENT - APARTMENTS THAT WERE HIT WITH - WATER THEY NEVER EXPECTED TO - COME? - >> THERE SHOULD HAVE BEEN AN - EVACUATION PROGRAM LIKE ANY - OTHER CITY, OR LOUISIANA HAS, - LIKE NEW ORLEANS HAS, PEOPLE WHO - LIVE IN BASEMENT APARTMENTS HAVE - TO EVACUATE, BE BROUGHT TO - SHELTER. - THAT IS WHAT WE NEED TO BE DOING - HERE BECAUSE WE HAVE AN - AFFORDABILITY CRISIS IN THE CITY - OF NEW YORK, A LOT OF FOLKS ARE - LIVING IN BASEMENT APARTMENTS, - AND THESE FOLKS ARE OF THE MOST - VULNERABLE PEOPLE IN OUR CITY. - THEY WERE BASICALLY LEFT OUT - THERE AND IT WAS HORRIBLE. - THAT IS WHY WE SAW THE - LOSS-OF-LIFE WE SAW. - JUDY: WHAT ABOUT GOING FORWARD?

- IS IT YOUR SENSE THAT NOW - FINALLY PEOPLE WILL PAY - ATTENTION AND ARE PREPARED TO - TAKE STEPS NEEDED, NOT JUST - EVACUATION WHAT OTHER STEPS THAT - COULD BE NEEDED TO MAKE NEW YORK - MORE RESILIENT? - >> WE HOPE SO. - IT'S NOT LIKE WE ARE STARING AT - A BRING -- BLANK PAGE, IT IS A - NOT -- IT IS NOT A MATTER OF - WHAT SHOULD WE DO, THERE ARE - PLANS IN PLACE BUT THE GLACIAL - PACE OF THE BUREAUCRACY IS WHAT - WE ARE UP AGAINST AND TIME IS - NOT ON OUR SIDE. - THERE ARE PLANS IN THE OUTER - BOROUGHS, STATEN ISLAND, THE - BRONX, QUEENS, BROOKLYN, BUT - SHOVELS ARE NOT IN THE GROUND - AND ALMOST 10 YEARS SINCE - HURRICANE SANDY. - WHAT WE NEED TO DO IS PRIORITIZE - THE STUFF AND EXPEDITE THESE - PROGRAMS ANDLANS TO GET THIS - STUFF DONE UNTIL THE NEXT ONE - COMES BECAUSE TIME IS NOT ON OUR - SIDE. - JUDY: YOU HAVE HAD SEVERAL - CHANGES OF LEADERSHIP SINCE - THEN, YOU ARE SAYING NOT MUCH IF - ANYTHING HAS HAPPENED IN MUCH OF - THE CITY? WHAT IS IT GOING TO - TAKE?

- >> THAT'S A GOOD QUESTION. - THE FACT THAT WE LOST 12 OR 13 - NEW YORKERS IN THE STORM, THAT - SHOULD BE A WAKE-UP CALL WE - HOPE. - WE ARE NOT GOING FAR ENOUGH. - WE HAVE POINTS IN THE BRONX, - WHICH IS THE EPICENTER OF NEW - YORK CITY'S FOOD DISTRIBUTION. - THE CITY HAS DONE A BARE MINIMUM - AND THEY ARE BLAMING THE COST ON - DOING MORE. - WE ARE HEARING THIS TIME AND - TIME AGAIN WHEN YOU GET OUTSIDE - OF MANHATTAN. - 75% OF ESSENTIAL WORKERS LIVE IN - THE OUTER BOROUGHS, LIVE OUTSIDE - MANHATTAN. - THERE'S GOT TO BE A FIVE BOROUGH - APPROACH. - WE HAVE TO LOOK AT THE CITY - HOLISTICALLY, NONE OF THIS - HAPPENS IN A SOLEMN, WE HAVE TO - PRIORITIZE THE OUTER BOROUGHS. - JUDY: DO YOU BELIEVE PEOPLE WHO - LIVE IN NEW YORK UNDERSTAND THE - URGENCY? - I COULD ASK ASK ABOUT PEOPLE - ACROSS THE COUNTRY. - >> I DO. - I THINK PEOPLE HAVE ALWAYS - UNDERSTOOD IT. - NEW YORKERS ARE TOUGH BUT WE - WISH WE DID NOT HAVE TO BE SO - TOUGH.

- IT SHOULD NOT BE SO HARD. - WE NEED LEADERS TO LISTEN. - CLEMENT CHANGE DOES NOT CARE - ABOUT DEMOCRAT OR REPUBLICAN. - CLIMATE CHANGE IS GETTING ON US, - WE ARE JUST NOT UP TO THE TASK. - JUDY: JUSTIN BRANNAN, A COUNSEL - -- COUNCILMAN FOR BROOKLYN, NEW - YORK AND WE WISH YOU THE BEST AS - YOU WORK TO HEAL FROM THIS. - >> THANK YOU. - ♪ - STEPHANIE: I'M STEPHANIE SY AT - NEWSHOUR WEST. WE'LL RETURN TO - JUDY WOODRUFF AND THE REST OF - THE OW AFTER THE LATEST - HEADLINES. - HIRING IN THE U.S. SLOWED IN - AUGUST, AS THE RAPID SPREAD OF - THE DELTA VARIANT TOOK A TOLL ON - THE NATION'S ECONOMY. - THE LABOR DEPARTMENT REPORTED - AMERICAN EMPLOYERS ADDED JUST - 235,000 JOBS LAST MONTH. THAT - WAS FAR SHORT OF THE ROBUST - HIRING GAINS MADE THE PREVIOUS - TWO MONTHS. - AT THE SAME TIME, THE - UNEMPLOYMENT RATE DROPPED TO - 5.2%, DOWN FROM 5.4% IN JULY.

- WE'LL TAKE A CLOSER LOOK AT - THOSE NUMBERS RIGHT AFTER THE - NEWS SUMMARY. - THERE ARE NEW CONCERNS TODAY - THAT THE BIDEN ADMINISTRATION'S - COVID-19 BOOSTER VACCINATION - PLAN, SET TO BEGIN SEPTEMBER 20, - MAY HAVE TO BE SCALED BACK. - FEDERAL HEALTH OFFICIALS HAVE - WARNED THE ADMINISTRATION THAT - THEY DON'T HAVE ENOUGH DATA YET - TO RECOMMEND THIRD DOSES FOR THE - MODERNA VACCINE. - BOOSTER SHOTS MAY INITIALLY BE - LIMITED TO PFIZER RECIPIENTS, - SINCE THAT VACCINE IS FURTHER - ALONG IN THE REVIEW PROCESS. - PRESIDENT BIDEN DENOUNCED TEXA'' - NEW ABORTION BAN TODAY. - HE SPOKE A DAY AFTER THE U.S. - SUPREME COURT LET STAND THE - STATE'S LAW BANNING THE - PROCEDURE AS EARLY AS SIX WEEKS - INTO A PREGNANCY. - THE LAW ALSO EMPOWERS PRIVATE - CITIZENS TO SUE ANYONE WHO HELPS - ANOTHER PERSON GET A PROHIBITED - ABORTION. - THE PRESIDENT SAID THE JUSTICE - DEPARTMENT IS LOOKING INTO - WHETHER IT CAN LIMIT ITS - ENFORCEMENT. - PRES. BIDEN: THE MOST PERNICIOUS - THING ABOUT THE TEXAS LAW, IT - SORT OF CREATES A VIGILANTE

- SYSTEM WHERE PEOPLE GET REWARDS - TO GO OUT, TO -- ANYWAY. - AND IT JUST SEEMS, I KNOW THIS - SOUNDS RIDICULOUS, ALMOST - UN-AMERICAN WHAT WE'RE TALKING - ABOUT. - STEPHANIE: MEANWHILE, EXPRESSING - OPPOSITION TO THE ABORTION BAN, - RIGHT THERE COMPANIES UBER AND - LYFT SAY THEY WILL COVER LEGAL - FEES IF ANY OF THEIR DRIVERS ARE - SUED. - TALIBAN MILITARY COMMANDERS - CLAIMED FULL CONTROL OF - AFGHANISTAN TODAY, SAYING - THEY SEIZED THE PAN'-SHEER - -- PANJSHIR VALLEY, THE FINAL - HOLDOUT OF OPPOSITION FORCES. - BUT AFGHAN RESISTANCE FIGHTERS - IN THAT REGION DENIED THOSE - REPORTS. - AS THE TALIBAN WORKS TO SET UP A - NEW GOVERNMENT, DOZENS OF AFGHAN - WOMEN PROTESTED NEAR THE - PRESIDENTIAL PALACE IN KABUL TO - DEMAND EQUAL RIGHTS. - MEANWHILE, U.S. SECRETARY OF

- STATE ANTONY BLINKEN SAID MOST - OF THE AMERICANS THAT REMAIN IN - AFGHANISTAN ARE DUAL CITIZENS - WHO BUILT THEIR LIVES THERE. - >> IT'S ESPECIALLY WRENCHING - FOR THEM TO MAKE THE DECISION - ABOUT WHETHER TO LEAVE OR NOT. - WE ARE IN VERY DIRECT ACTIVE - CONTACT WITH THIS GROUP AND - THERE IS ABSOLUTELY NO DEADLINE - ON THIWORK. WE'RE GOING TO BE - IN VERY CLOSE TOUCH AND AS THEY - DESIRE TO LEAVE, WE'RE GOING TO - MAKE SURE WE'RE DOING EVERYTHING - WE CAN TO HELP THEM DO EXACTLY - THAT. - STEPHANIE: ALSO TODAY, HOMELAND - SECURITY SRETARY ALEJANDRO - MAYORKAS SAID THE U.S. EXPECTS - TO ADMIT MORE THAN 50,000 AFGHAN - EVACUEES AND HE ACKNOWLEDGED - THAT FIGURE COULD CLIMB. - PRESIDENT BIDEN SIGNED AN - EXECUTIVE ORDER TODAY DIRECTING - THE REVIEW AND POTENTIAL - DECLASSIFICATION OF TOP SEET - DOCUMENTS RELATED TO THE - SEPTEMBER 11 TERROR ATTACKS. - YEARS, VICTIMS' FAMILIES HAVE - -- FOR YEARS, VICTIMS FAMILIES - HAVE DEMANDED MORE RECORDS FROM

- THE INVESTIGATION WHICH THEY - ARGUE COULD SHOW A LINK TO THE - SAUDI ARABIAN GOVERNMENT. - FIRE CREWS IN NORTHERN - CALIFORNIA MADE MORE HEADWAY - TODAY AGAINST A MASSIVE WILDFIRE - BURNG JUST A FEW MILES AWAY - FROM SOUTH LAKE TAHOE. - THE CALDOR FIRE IS NOW - 29% CONTAINED AND GROWING AT ITS - SMALLEST RATE IN TWO WEEKS - THANKS TO CALMER WINDS. IT'S - DESTROYED OVER 850 STRUCTURES - SINCE MID-AUGUST. - FORMER ROMAN CATHOLIC CARDINAL - THEODORE MCCARRICK PLEADED NOT - GUILTY TODAY TO SEXUALLY - ASSAULTING A TEENAGE BOY AT A - MASSACHUSETTS WEDDING RECEPTION - IN 1974. - A PROTESTER YELLED "SHAME ON - YOU!" AS MCCARRICK ENTERED THE - SUBURBAN BOSTON COURTHOUSE. - ONCE INSIDE, THE 91-YEAR-OLD -- - WHO WAS HUNCHED OVER A WALKER -- - DID NOT SPEAK AT HIS HEARING. - HE IS THE ONLY U.S. CATHOLIC - CARDINAL TO BE CRIMINALLY - CHARGED WITH CHILD SEX CRIMES. - THE ARIZONA MAN KNOWN AS THE - QANON SHAMAN LEADING GUILTY TO A - COUNT OF OBSTRUCTING A - PROCEEDING OF CONGRESS WHEN HE - HELPED STORM THE CAPITOL ON - JANUARY 6, PART OF A PLEA DEAL

- HE MADE WITH PROSECUTORS. - HE GAINED NOTORIETY AFTER BEING - PHOTOGRAPHED SHIRTLESS INSIDE - THE CAPITAL WEARING A FUR HAT - HORNS. - HE WILL BE CENTERED IN DECEMBER. - THE JAPANESE PREMISED OR WILL - NOT SEEK REELECTION AFTER ONE - YEAR IN OFFICE, CRITICIZED FOR - JAPAN'S SLOW PANDEMIC RESPONSE - AN FOR HOSTING THE SUMMER - OLYMPICS IN SPITE OF PUBLIC - HEALTH CONCERNS. - IN NEW ZEALAND, A SRI LANKAN MAN - INSPIRED BY THE ISLAMIC STATE - STABBED AND INJURED SIX PEOPLE - AT AN AUCKLAND SUPERMARKET. - THE PRIME MINISTER SAID POLICE - WERE ABLE TO KILL THE ASSAILANT - ABOUT A MINUTE AFTER THE ATTACK - BECAUSE THEY CARRY AGENCIES HA - BEEN MONITORING HIM SINCE 2016. - >> THE DETAILED REGIONS HE IS - KNOWN TO THE AGENCY AS A SUBJECT - OF SUPPRESSION ORDERS MADE BY - THE COURT. - I CAN SAY WE HAVE UTILIZED EVERY - LEGAL AND SURVEILLANCE POWER - AVAILABLE TO US TO TRY AND KEEP - PEOPLE SAFE FROM THIS - INDIVIDUAL.

- MANY AGENCIES AND PEOPLE WERE - INVOLVED AND ALL WERE MOTIVATED - BY THE SAME THING, TRYING TO - KEEP PEOPLE SAFE. - STEPHANIE: THREE OF THE STABBING - VICTIMS WERE SERIOUSLY INJURED. - STILL TO COME ON THE NEWSHOUR, - PERSONAL REFLECTION FROM THE - CHAPLAIN WHO OVERSAW A FALLEN - SOLDIERS, -- SOLDIERS FINAL - RETURN HOME FROM AFGHANISTAN. - BREAKING DOWN THE MULTIPLE - CRISES FACING PRESIDENT BIDEN - AND KEEPING THE BEAT. - HOW THE MUSIC INDUSTRY PLAYS ON - INDEPENDENT. - -- IN THE PANDEMIC. - >> THIS IS THE PBS NEWSHOUR FROM - WETA STUDIOS IN WASHINGTON AND - IN WEST FROM THE WALTER CRONKITE - HOOL OF JOURNALISM AT ARIZONA - STATE UNIVERSITY. - JUDY: COMPARED WITH THE JOBS - REPORT OF THE PAST FEW MONTHS IN - MANY PARTS OF THE COUNTRY SEEMED - TO BE REOPENING, THE - UNEMPLOYMENT REPORT FOR AUGUST - WAS EXPECTED TO BE SIGNIFICANTLY

- MORE MODEST. - BUT AS WILLIAM BRANGHAM TELLS - US, THE REPORT THAT CAME OUT - TODAY WAS A SOBERING SPLASH OF - COLD WATER ABOUT THE STATE OF - THE ECONOMY AND THE ONGOING - IMPACT OF THE PANDEMIC. - WILLIAM: JUDY, THE NET GAIN OF - JUST 235,000 JOBS LAST MONTH WAS - A HUGE DROP FROM THIS SUMMER'S - EARLIER GAINS, AND IT COULD BE - SIGNALING A HIRING SLOWDOWN -- - AND ONE THAT'S WORSE THAN HAD - BEEN EXPECTED. - THIS ALSO COMES AT A - PARTICULARLY TRICKY MOMENT. - THAT'S BECAUSE THOSE PANDEMIC - UNEMPLOYMENT BENEFITS, THE ONES - THAT'VE CUSHIONED THE BLOW OF - THE LAST YEAR AND A HALF, ARE - GOING TO EXPIRE ON MONDAY. - MORE THAN 7 MILLION PEOPLE WILL - SEE THOSE BENEFITS DISAPPEAR ON - LABOR DAY. - TO HELP US TAKE STOCK OF THIS - , I'M JOINED BY CATHERINE - RAMPELL, SHE'S A SPECIAL - CORRESPONDENT FOR THE NEWSHOUR - AND A COLUMNIST FOR THE - WASHINGTON POST. - GREAT TO HAVE YOU BACK. - IN JULY WE SAW ALMOST A MILLION - JOBS GAINED AND HOW WE'RE DOWN - TO BARELY A QUARTER OF THAT.

- DO YOU POINT THE FINGER AND THE - BLAME SQUARELY AT THE VIRUS? - >> I THINK THE DELTA VARIANCE - FINGERPRINTS ARE ALL OVER THIS - REPORT, PARTICULARLY IF YOU LOOK - AT WHAT INDUSTRIES MOST MISSED - EXPECTATIONS. - FOR EXAMPLE, YOU HAD FOOD - SERVICES AND DRINKING - ESTABLISHMENTS SECTOR, - RESTAURANTS AND BARS, A FANCY - WAY OF SAYING RESTAURANTS AND - BARS. - THEY LOST JOBS IN AUGUST AFTER - HAVING AVERAGED ABOUT 200,000 - JOBS PER MONTH OVER THE PREVIOUS - SIX MONTHS, AND THAT MAKES SENSE - . - IF IT IS RISKIER TO GO OUT, TO A - BAR, AND AT WITH YOUR FRIENDS - OUTSIDE YOUR HOME, PEOPLE ARE - NOT GOING TO DO IT. - SO YOU HAVE THOSE KINDS OF - EMPLOYERS DROPPING PEOPLE FROM - PAYROLLS. - YOU SEE SIMILARFFECTS THROUGH - OTHER SECTORS THAT HAVE BEEN - SENSITIVE TO THE PANDEMIC. - THE HEALTHCARE INDUSTRY LOST - JOBS. - THAT MIGHT SEEM COUNTERINTUITIVE - BUT WHEN YOU THINK ABOUT THE - FACT THAT ELECTIVE PROCEDURES

- HAVE BEEN PUT OFF, NURSES, - DOCTORS, OTHER WORKERS ARE BURNT - OUT AND QUITTING. - THROUGHOUT THIS REPORT THERE HAS - BEEN A FAIR AMOUNT OF NEGATIVE - NEWS AND IT SEEMS DUE TO COVID - AND THE RISE IN INFECTIONS. - WILLIAM: DID THOSE RISE IN - INFECTIONS AND HOSPITALIZATIONS - TRACK WITH THE NUMBERS LOST? - CAN YOU PLOT IT ON A GRAFT AND - DECEIT CAUSE AND EFFECT? - >> IT LOOKS THAT WAY. - THOUGH IF YOU LOOK AT THE SCALE - ON THAT EARLY IN THE PANDEMIC IT - WAS MUCH LARGER RELATIVE TO THE - NUMBER OF DEATHS FOR EXAMPLE. - IN SOME RESPECTS IT IS BETTER - THAT WE HAVE NOT HAD QUITE THE - SAME NEGATIVE IMPACT ON THE - ECONOMY THIS TIME AROUND THAT WE - DID EARLY IN THE PANDEMIC. - ON THE OTHER HAND, PEOPLE ARE - ENGAGING IN MORE OF THEIR - REGULAR DAY-TO-DAY ECONOMIC - ACTIVITIES THAT COULD BE - HIGH-RISK, PARTICULARLY IF TH - ARE UNVACCINATED. - BUT IF YOU LOOK AT THE RISE IN - INFECTIONS, HOSPITALIZATIONS,

- DEATHS, IT DOES SEEM TO TRACK - PRETTY CLOSELY, AT LEAST IN - TERMS OF DIRECTION WITH THE FACT - THAT THERE HAS BEEN A SLOWDOWN - IN COVID SENSITIVE INDUSTRIES. - WILLIAM: CE MONDAY 7 MILLION - PEOPLE ARE GOING TO LOSE THEIR - UNEMPLOYMENT IURANCE BENEFITS - AND I KNOW THERE IS SOME - INTERNAL DEBATE WITHIN THE - MINISTRATION AS TO WHETHER OR - NOT THIS IS THE RIGHT TIME THOSE - BENEFITS TO GO AWAY. - DO YOU THINK THIS JOBS REPORT - CHANGES THAT DECISION? - >> I THINK IT DOES COMPLICATED. - A FEW MONTHS AGO WE WERE HEARING - WIDESPREAD ARGUMENTS FOR THE - FACT THAT THESE EXTENDED - UNEMPLOYMENT BENEFITS MIGHT BE - KEEPING PEOPLE FROM TAKING - AVAILABLE JOBS IN THEIR AREA. - AND THERE HAVE BEEN A HUGE - NUMBER OF JOB VACANCIES THAT - HAVE BEEN GOING UNFILLED. - I THINK IT IS REASONABLE TO - THINK FOR SOME WORKERS, YES, IT - COULD BE THE CASE THAT IF - THEIR OUTSIDE OPTION, - UNEMPLOYMENT BENEFITS - CONTINUES PAYING THE BILLS THEY

- MIGHT HOLD OFF ON EXCEPTING A - DROUGHT THAT IS NOT SUITABLE OR - DOES NOT MEET THEIR NEEDS. - THERE ARE OTHER FACTORS THAT ARE - DELAYING PEOPLES RETURNED TO THE - WORKFORCE, LIKE LACK OF ACCESS - TO CHILDCARE, TRANSPORTATION, - AND RISING COVID RISK. - I THINK IT COMPLICATES THE - PICTURE A LITTLE BIT IF IN FACT - FEWER JOBS ARE AVAILABLE, OR AT - THE VERY LEAST THE JOBS THAT - HAVE BEEN GOING MAY NO LONGER BE - THERE ANYMORE BECAUSE THERE ARE - CONSUMERS WHO WANT TO GO OUT TO - RESTAURANTS AND BARS AND TWO - OTHER KINDS OF ACTIVITIES THAT - ARE HIGHER RISK. - THE REAL QUESTION GOING FORWARD - IS IF THESE 7 MILLION ODD PEOPLE - LOSE THEIR ON APPOINTMENT - BENEFITS, WHAT DOES THAT MEAN - FOR THEIR FAMILIES, AND FOR THE - OVERALL ECONOMY? - IF IN FACT THE BENEFITS ARE - KEEPING THEM AFLOAT BUT NOT - MAJORLY WEIGHING ON THE DECISION - TO TAKE A JOB OR NOT TAKE A JOB, - WHAT COULD HAPPEN IS THERE - SPENDING POWER JUST GOES DOWN.

- AND IF THERE SPENDING POWER GOES - DOWN, THAT MEANS THEY HAVE LESS - MONEY AVAILABLE IN THE LOCAL - ECONOMY WHICH COULD IN TURN HAVE - ESE EFFECTS THAT MAKE IT - HARDER FOR LOCAL EMPLOYERS TO - HIRE. - IT IS A LITTLE HARD TO - DISENTANGLE WHAT THE MACRO - EFFECTS OF THIS WILL BE, BUT IT - WILL CERTAINLY CAUSE A LOT OF - HARDSHIP FOR MANY FAMILIES, AND - I SHOULD MENTION BY THE WAY THAT - THERE HAVE BEEN ATTEMPTS TO LOOK - AT WHETHER THE STATES THAT - ALREADY ENDED THESE UNAPPOINTED - BENEFITS, THESE EXTENDED - BENEFITS -- UNEMPLOYMENT - BENEFITS, THESE EXTENDED - BENEFITS EARLY, WHETHER THEY HAD - HIGHER JOBS GROWTH THEN THE - STATES THAT DECIDED TO KEEP IT - AND SO FAR IT SEEMS LIKE THERE - IS NOT MUCH OF AN EFFECT EITHER - WAY. - WILLIAM: ALL RIGHT, SPECIAL - CORRESPONDENT FOR THE NEWSHOUR - AND AT THE WASHINGTON POST, - THANK YOU SO MUCH. - >> THANK YOU. - JUDY: LAST SUNDAY PRESIDENT - BIDEN FLEW TO DOVER AIR FORCE - BASE IN DELAWARE TO WITNESS THE

- RETURN, OR AS IT IS FORMERLY - TITLED, THE THREE PH RATION -- - REPATRIATION, OF AMERICAN - SERVICE MEMBERS KILLED IN - AFGHANISTAN. AND AS IT HAS FOR - THE PAST 20 YEARS, THE AIR BASE - HOSTED WHAT THE MILITARY CALLS - "DIGNIFIED TRANSFERS". THEY ARE - SOLEMN, QUIET RITUALS LED BY - DOVER'S CHAPLAINS, ONE OF WHOM - HAS WITNESSED THE HUMAN COST OF - THE WAR FROM ITS VERY FIRST DAY, - IN 2001 ALL THE WAY TO LAST - , WEEKEND. NICK SCHIFRIN SPOKE - TO HIM BEFORE THE - U.S. TROOP WITHDRAWAL ABOUT - SACRIFICE, AND FAMILIES' GRIEF. - NICK: IN THE LAST 20 YEARS, MORE - THAN 7000 AMERICAN MEN AND WOMEN - HAVE DIED IN AFGHANISTAN, IRAQ - AND FIGHTING THE GLOBAL WAR ON - TERROR. NEARLY ALL OF THEM ARE - FLOWN HOME THROUGH DOVER AIR - FORCE BASE. THROUGHOUT, THERE'S - BEEN ONE CHAPLAIN AT DOVER, - MINISTER DAVID SPARKS. DAVID - SPARKS, WELCOME TO THE NEWSHOUR. - DAVID: THANK YOU FOR INVITING - ME. - NICK: THANK YOU FOR BEING HERE. - HOW DO YOU MEASURE THEACRIFICE - OF THE LAST 20 YEARS?

- DAVID: IT'S A SACRIFICE THAT - GOES ON FOREVER FOR THE FAMILIES - WHO HAVE LOST THEIR LOVED ONE, - WHETHER THAT'S THEIR SON OR - DAUGHTER OR PARENT. I HAVE SAID - TO THOUSANDS OF FAMILY MEMBERS, - WE THANK YOU FOR AND HONOR THE - SACRIFICE OF YOUR SON OR - DAUGHTER, BUT WE ALSO HONOR YOUR - SACRIFICE, WHICH GOES ON - FOREVER. - MOSTLY AT THE POINT AT WHICH I - AM CONVEYING THAT TO THEM, THEY - DON'T SAY ANYTHING. THEY LISTEN - INTENTLY. AND BY AND LARGE, - THEY'RE SOMEWHERE BETWEEN TEARS - AND SOBBING. - NICK: DO YOU TRY AND COMFORT - THEM? - DAVID: DEPENDING ON WHAT THAT - MEANS, OF COURSE. OF COURSE. BUT - IT'S NOT USUALLY VERY VERBAL. AT - THE MOMENT OF THE DIGNIFIED - TRANSFER WHEN THEY HAVE JUST

- SEEN THEIR LOVED ONE COME ACROSS - THE TARMAC COVERED BY A FLAG, - THERE AREN'T MANY WORDS THAT ARE - COMFORTING. [20.8S] - -- COMFORTING. - MOSTLY IT IS THE CARE THAT IS - BEING GIVEN BY THIS CHAPLAIN AND - BY OTHERS, SO MANY OTHERS THAT - ARE INVOLVED IN THAT. AND THEY - THEY SEE THAT AND FEEL THAT. - THERE IS A TEAM THAT CARRIES - THEIR LOVED ONE OFF OF THE PLANE - AND TO OUR TRANSFER VEHICLE. AND - AFTER THEY ARE COMPLETE WITH - THAT TRANSFER, THEY STAND AT - ATTENTION AND THEY WILL NOT MOVE - UNTIL THE FAMILY HAS LEFT THE - FLIGHT LINE. AND MANY, MANY - TIMES THE FAMILY TURNS AROUND IN - OUR VEHICLE TO LOOK OUT THE - BACK, TO SEE THOSE PEOPLE STILL - STANDING AT ATTENTION. - THIS IS GOING TO MAKE ME - EMOTIONAL. - STANDING AT ATTENTION OVER THERE - AND HOLDING THAT. AND THEY WILL - OFTEN COMMENT ON THAT. - NICK: YOU HAVE HAD TO DEAL WITH

- THIS SO MANY TIMES. YOU'VE HAD - TO BE THE ONLY ONE SPEAKING, - OFTEN, AT THESE DIGNIFIED - TRANSFERS SO MANY TIMES. WHAT DO - YOU SAY ABOUT THESE PEOPLE WHO - HAVE HAD TO COME HOME AFTER THE - ULTIMATE SACRIFICE? - DAVID: I TRY TO SAY SOMETHING - SIGNIFICANT IN THE PRAYER TO - CHALLENGE THE FOLKS WHO ARE - THERE IN THAT DIGNIFIED TRANSFER - TO LIVE UP TO THE CORE VALUES OF - THE SERVICE. - TO LIVE UP TO THEIR OWN CORE - VALUES, TO LIVE A LIFE THAT IS - HONORING OF THOSE WHO HE GIVEN - THEIR LIVES IN ORDER THAT WE CAN - DO WHAT WE DO. - AND I ALMOST ALWAYS PRAY FOR - PEACE. - NICK: WHY HAS IT AND WHY IS IT - -- BEEN IMPORTANT FOR YOU TO SAY - SOMETHING DIFFERENT EVERY TIME? - DAVID: BECAUSE EVERY MILITARY - MEMBER AND THEIR FAMILIES FOR ME

- DO THE HONOR OF NOT JUST ON - ROTE. I MEAN, I CAN PRAY A ROTE - PRAYER, I CAN MEMORIZE ONE THAT - I PRAY EVERY TIME. AND I KNO - THERE ARE SOME CHAPLAINS WHO DO - THAT, AND THAT'S FINE. BUT IT'S - -- IT'S IMPORTANT TO ME THAT - I GIVE THAT PERSONAL TOUCH TO - EVERYONE, THOUGH I WOULD CONFESS - THAT AFTER THREE OR 4000, THERE - ARE ONLY SO MANY WORDS THAT CAN - BE USED. - NICK: DO YOU THINK OVER THE - YEARS THAT YOU HAVE SAID THE - RIGHT THINGS? - DAVID: I AM AWARE THAT THIS IS - VERY SPIRITUAL. - I AM AWARE THAT THERE HAVE BEEN - MULTIPLE TIMES WHEN I DID NOT - HAVE THE PREPARATION FOR A - PARTICULAR MOMENT, WHEN WORDS - CAME UP OUT OF ME THAT WERE NOT - MY OWN. - DOES THAT MAKE ANY SENSE? - NICK: OF COURSE. - DAVID: THAT WERE NOT MY OWN, AND

- I SAID THEM. - AND ONCE IN A WHILE IT WAS -- - I HEARD IT THE FIRST TIME WHEN - IT CAME AROUND IN MY OWN EAR. - AND WHERE IN THE WORLD DID THAT - COME FROM? - THOSE ARE VERY HOLY MOMENTS FOR - ME. - NICK: YEAH. - LET'S TALK ABOUT YOU FOR A FEW - MINUTES. - YOU ARE FIRST AT DOVER IN 1980. - DAVID: YEAH. - NICK: YOU LEFT FOR A LITTLE - WHILE. - DAVID: I WAS A KID. - NICK: YOU LEFT FOR A LITTLE - WHILE AND CAME BACK BEFORE 9/11. - WHAT HAPPENED ON 9/11 AT DOVER - FOR YOU? - DAVID: I WAS A RESERVIST AND I - HAD BEEN CALLED TO DOVER - MULTIPLE TIMES AND I HAD REGULAR - DUTY. - THE FIRST DIGNIFIED TRANSFERS - AFTER 9/11 WERE THE REMAINS THAT - WERE COMING FROM THE PENTAGON, - AND I DO NOT REMEMBER WORDS, BUT - I REMEMBER THAT THE HELICOPTERS

- THAT WERE COMING FROM THE - PENTAGON THREE AND FOUR AT A - TIME, EVERY DAY OR MULTIPLE - TIMES EVERY DAY. IT WAS PRETTY - OVERWHELMING. AND AT THAT TIME - THEY SENT THE CHAPLAIN UP ONTO - THE HELICOPTER ON THE RAMP AT - THE BACK, AND THERE WAS NOBODY - ELSE UP THERE. THAT WAS JUST ME. - SOUND IS A GREAT TRIGGER, SO I - NEVER HEAR -- I NEVER HEAR A - HELICOPTER COME OVER THAT I - DON'T FLASHBACK TO THOSE - HELICOPTERS THAT CAME IN, THREE, - FOUR OR FIVE AT A TIME. YEAH. - NICK: AND THAT WAS 20 YEARS AGO. - YOU'D SINCE RETIRED FROM ACTIVE - RESERVE. - [00:16:30]YOU WERE BACK AT THIS - -- - YOU WERE BACK AT THIS JOB THAT - WE'VE BEEN TALKING ABOUT AS A - CIVILIAN, AND YOU'VE BEEN AT IT - SINCE. WHY? WHY HAVE YOU STAYED - THIS LONG? - DAVID: THIS TURNED OUT TO BE THE - RIGHT THING AT THE RIGHT TIME, - THE RIGHT PLACE, FOR ME, FOR MY - PERSONALITY, FOR THE TRAINING

- THAT I HAD RECEIVED IN MANY - OTHER WAYS, THE FULFILLMENT OF - DOING WHAT I HAVE DONE AT DOVER - HAS BEEN HAS BEEN VERY REAL FOR - ME. - THE FAMILIES ARE EMBEDDED IN MY - HEART. - I LIKE TO ASK, HOW DID YOU MEET? - AND THEY GET TO TALK ABOUT THEIR - LOVED ONE. WHAT WAS IT ABOUT HIM - OR HER THAT DREW YOU TO HER THE - FIRST TIME? - AND SMILES IN THE MIDST OF THEIR - LOSS, AND THEY TELL THESE - WONDERFUL STORIES. - AND FOR THOSE OF US WHO ARE IN - THE GRIEF AND LOSS FIELD ALL THE - TIME, WE RECOGNIZE THAT THE - NUMBER ONE NEED FOR A FAMILY IS - TO REMEMBER THEIR LOVED ONE, - EVEN THOUGH THAT CAUSES TEARS - AND THEY SUFFER WITH THAT. BUT - THE NUMBER ONE NEED, AFTER - ACCEPTING THAT, IN FACT, THERE'S - BEEN A DEATH, IS TO BE ABLE TO - REMEMBER WELL THEIR LOVED ONE

- AND TELL THOSE STORIES. - IT'S A PART OF PART OF THE - IMPORTANT PART OF THE GRIEF - PROCESS THAT IS GOING TO GO ON. - AS I SAID EARLIER, IT'S GOING TO - GO ON FOREVER. - NICK: CHAPLAIN DAVID SPARKS, - IT'S A REAL PLEASURE. THANK YOU - SO MUCH FOR BEING HERE. - DAVID: TNK YOU. - LOVED BEING HERE. - JUDY: WHEN THE REMAINS OF THE 13 - AMERICAN SERVICE MEMBERS KILLED - AT THE KABUL AIRPORT WERE - REPATRIATED LAST SUNDAY, - CHAPLAIN DAVID SPARKS WAS THERE, - FOR PERHAPS THE LAST DIGNIFIED - TRANSFER OF THE UNITED STATES' - WAR IN AFGHANISTAN. - ♪ - DY: AS AMERICANS CONTINUE TO - GRAPPLE WITH WHAT IT MEANS TO BE - OUT OF AFGHANISTAN, WOMEN'S - REPRODUCTIVE RIGHTS ARE BEING - THROWN INTO QUESTION AFTER THIS - WEEK'S SUPREME COURT RULING, AND - THE LATEST EMPLOYMENT REPORT

- SHOWS THE TOLL COVID IS STIL - TAKING ON THE U.S. ECONOMY. - TO TRY TO PUT IT INTO - PERSPECTIVE, WE TURN TO THE - ANALYSIS OF CAPEHART AND GERSON. - THAT'S JONATHAN CAPEHART AND - MICHAEL GERSON, BOTH COLUMNISTS - FOR THE WASHINGTON POST. DAVID - BROOKS IS AWAY. - IT IS VERY GOOD TO SEE BOTH OF - YOU. - >> GOOD TO SEE YOU, JUDY. - JUDY: WE JUST HEARD FROM THE - CHAPLAIN AT DOVER, AND WE ARE - REMINDED OF WHAT SACRIFICE THERE - HAS BEEN. - IT PULLS AT OUR HEARTS. - PRESIDENT BIDEN IN EXPLAINING - THE REASON FOR LEAVING - AFGHANISTAN SAID HE DIDN'T WANT - TO SEE ANYMORE BLOODSHED FROM - YOUNG AMERICAN MEN AND WOMEN. - INASMUCH AS THE AMERICAN PEOPLE - AGREE WITH THAT, THEY ARE SAYING - THEY DON'T LIKE WHAT HAPPENED - HERE AT THE END. - THERE IS A NEW POLL WE DID WITH - NEWSHOUR SHOWING 32% APPROVAL, - 61 -- ALMOST TWO TO ONE - DISAPPROVAL.

- HOW LONG-LASTING IS THIS? - >> I WILL TAKE THAT QUESTION - FIRST, HOW LONG-LASTING WILL - THIS BE? - I DON'T THINK IT WILL BE - LONG-LASTING AT ALL. - I THINK IT IS POSSIBLE TO - DISAPPROVE OF THE WAY THE UNITED - STATES WITHDREW FROM AFGHANISTAN - WHILE STILL SUPPORTING GETTING - THE TROOPS OUT. - THERE IS A WASHINGTON POST POLL - THAT IS OUT THAT ACTUALLY LAYS - THAT -- THIS OUT PERFECTLY. - 77% OF THOSE SURVEYED SUPPORT - WITHDRAWAL FROM AFGHANISTAN, - WHEN ASKED DO YOU APPROVE OF THE - WAY THE PRESIDENT HAS HANDLED - WITHDRAWAL, ONLY 26% SAID THEY - APPROVE. - THEY SUPPORT WITHDRAWAL BUT - DON'T APPROVE OF THE HANDLING OF - IT AND 52% APPROVE -- DISAPPROVE - OF THE HANDLING BUT SUPPORT - WITHDRAWAL. - THIS IS A MOMENTARY BLIP FOR THE - PRESIDENT. - AND ONE MORE THING. - THE PRESIDENT MENTIONED IT IN - HIS SPEECH THIS WEEK AND I DON'T

- THINK PEOPLE SHOULD FORGET THIS. - ONLY 1% OF THE AMERICAN PEOPLE - SERVES IN THE MILITARY OR THE - RESERVES. - IN A COUNTRY OF 330 SOMETHING - MILLION PEOPLE. - TO HEAR THE CHAPLAIN TALK ABOUT - THAT SOLEMN DUTY, IT IS NOT JUST - THE FACT THAT HE IS HELPING - LOVED ONES RAVE, -- GRIEVE, BUT - THIS IS A SPECIAL GROUP OF - PEOPLE WHO HAVE GIVEN THEIR - LIVES TO THE COUNTRY, 1%. - WE TALK ABOUT THE 1% IN TERMS OF - WEALTH, BUT THIS IS THE TRULY - HEROIC 1% OF THE COUNTRY THAT IS - WILLING TO PUT THEIR LIVES ON - THE LINE FOR THIS COUNTRY. - JUDY: GIVEN THE SACRIFICE THEY - HAVE MADE AND WHAT WE ARE SEEING - IN THE AMERICAN PEOPLE AND WHAT - ON T SURFACE LOOKS TO BE - CONTRADICTORY, SUPPORTING - PULLING OUT BUT NOT LIKING THE - WAY IT WAS DONE, WHAT DOES THAT - SAY ABOUT THIS? - >> THE COMPLEXITY POINT, THE

- PUBLIC IS CAPABLE OF HOLDING - THOSE TWO IDEAS OF HOLDING THOSE - TWO IDEAS AT THE SAME TIME. - I AGREE WITH JONATHAN ABOUT THE - LONG-TERM EFFECT OF AFGHANISTAN - ITSELF, THIS IS A POLICY PEOPLE - AGREE WITH AND THAT IS - ULTIMATELY GOING TO GO TO THE - RESIDENCE BENEFIT. - HE WILL CAMPAIGN IF THE ROADS - FOR REELECTION AS THE ENDOR OF - FOREVER WARS. - -- ENDER OF FOREVER WARS. - BUT IF THIS IS A DATA POINT THAT - BECOMES TOWARD INCOMPETENCE, - BECAUSE NOW THEY VIEW THAT AS - NOT COMPETENT, I DON'T THINK IT - IS AFGHANISTAN THAT WOULD BE THE - PROBLEM. - I THINK IT IS A SET OF DATA - POINTS THAT WOULD HURT HIM IN A - LONG RUN. - JUDY: SO YOU ARE SAYING WAIT AND - SEE? - >> YEAH, WE HAVE NO IDEA. - JUDY: LET ME TURN TO SOMETHING - ELSE, NO SHORTAGE OF HEADACHES

- FOR THE PRESIDENT, THE ECONOMY. - WE HEARD WILLIAM SPEAKING WITH - YOUR WASHINGTON POST COLLEAGUE - EARLIER ON THE PROGRAM ABOUT - THIS. - THIS IS SOMETHING WHERE EVERY - AMERICAN FEELS, YOU WERE SAYING - 1% SERVED IN THE MILITARY, - PEOPLE ARE WATCHING THIS AND WE - LOOKED AT, AGAIN, WE ASKED - PEOPLE IN OUR NEW POLL DO YOU - MAKE OF THE PRESIDENT'S HANDLING - OF THE ECONOMY IN APRIL, 38% - DISAPPROVE. - NOW IT IS 48% DISAPPROVE. - HOW WORRIED SHOULD THE PRESIDENT - BE? - >> HE SHOULD BE VERY WORRIED - BECAUSE PRESIDENCIES RISE OR - FALL ON THE ECONOMY AND THE - WEIGHT THE AMERICAN PEOPLE FEEL - ABOUT THE ECONOMY. - COMPLICATING MATTERS, AND THIS - IS WHY THIS IS HAPPENING, IS THE - PANDEMIC. - WE ALL THOUGHT WE WERE IN THE - CLEAR IN THE SPRING. - BASQUES WERE COMING OFF, - VACCINES WERE BEING PUT INTO - ARMS, AND THEN THE DELTA VARIANT

- JUST KNOCKED US FOR A LOOP. - I THINK THE FACT THAT THE - ADDICTIONS WERE THERE WERE GOING - TO BE 700,000 JOBS CREATED AND - INSIDE IT'S 230 SOMETHING -- - INSTEAD IT IS TWO TO 30 - SOMETHING, THE ECONOMY IS - SPOOKED AND CONCERNED ABOUT WHAT - THE DELTA VARIANT IS GOING TO DO - TO THE JOBS MARKET. - YET THOSE NUMBERS, OF ALL OF THE - THINGS WE WERE TALKING ABOUT, - THAT IS WHAT I THINK WORRIES THE - WHITE HOUSE. - THE POLLING ON AFGHANISTAN, WE - KNOW THEY ARE NOT TERRIBLY - WORRIED ABOUT THAT, BUT THIS IS - SOMETHING THEY'RE WORRIED ABOUT. - >> AND IT IS NOT AN ECONOMIC - PROBLEM WE ARE DEALING WITH, IT - IS A SCIENTIFIC PROBLEM, THE - DELTA VARIANT. - IN THIS CASE IS BECAUSE OF - BREAKTHROUGH INFECTIONS, A LOT - OF PEOPLE WHO HAVE BEEN - VACCINATED HAVE QUESTIONS AUT - WHAT THEY SHOULD DO IN PUBLIC - AND UNDER WHAT CIRCUMSTANCES. - WE ARE ALSO BEGINNING TO SEE - THIS AMONG SCHOOLCHILDREN. - WHICH I THINK IS CREATING A LOT

- OF CHAOTIC INTERACTIONS AT THE - SCHOOL BOARD LEVEL ABOUT WHAT - SHLD HAPPEN HERE. - ALL THAT CREATES UNCERTAIY, - AND THAT IS I THINK WHAT - UNDERMINES ECONOMIC GROWTH IN - THIS CASE. - JUDY: PEOPLE TALK ABOUT THE - PRESIDENT GETS THE CREDIT OR THE - BLAME, IN THIS CASE HOWUCH - CONTROL DOES HE HAVE OVER COVID - AND WHERE DOES -- GOES FROM - HERE? - THERE IS SOME CONTROL WITH THE - VACCINE, BUT. - >> THE PRESIDENT DOESN'T HAVE - ANY CONTROL OVER THE ECONOMY - WHETHER WE ADMIT IT OR NOT AND - WE ARE SEEING WITH THE PANDEMIC - THERE IS NOT MUCH CONTROL THERE - EITHER. - JUDY: ANOTHER ISSUE FROM THIS - WEEK, THE TEXAS NEW RESTRICTIVE - ABORTION LAW. - THE SUPREME COURT ISSUED THE - SO-CALLED SHADOW DOCKET OPINION - CAME OUT AT MIDNIGHT ONE NIGHT. - WE ONLY SAW A TOUCH OF WHAT THE - MAJORITY IN THIS 5-4 OPINION - THOUGHT, BUT THE DISSENT WAS

- VIGOROUS. - THE PEOPLE WHO ARE ABORTION - RIGHTS ACTIVISTS ARE SAYING THIS - IS A SERIOUS BLOW TO WOMEN'S - REPRODUCTIVE RIGHTS. - OTHERS ARE SAYING WE WILL SEE. - HOW WORRIED SHOULD ABORTION - RIGHTS ACTIVISTS BE, AND HOW - MUCH CHEERING SHOULD THERE BE ON - THE PART OF THOSE WHO ARE - ANTIABORTION? - >> I THINK AMERICANS NEED TO - UNDERSTAND THAT ROE WADE WAS - NOT OVERTURNED. - THIS IS A NARROW SITUATION IN - WHICH A TEXAS LAW WAS PASSED. - IT WAS WRITTEN IN SUCH A WAY SO - THAT THE SUPREME COURT WOULD NOT - HAVE STANDING TO DEAL WITH IT. - IT WAS A TRICK LAW, INTENDED TO - ESSENTIALLY TRICK THE JUSTICES - SO THEY WOULD NOT INTERVENE IN - AN EMERGENCY WAY WITH A LAW THAT - IS COMPLETELY UNCONSTITUTIONAL. - IF YOU LOOK AT JUSTICE ROBERTS - IN HIS DISSENT, HE IS NOT HAPPY. - PEOPLE ARE PLAYING GAMES WITH

- HIM. - THAT DON'T THINK IT'S GOING TO - HELP THEIR CAUSE IN THE LONG - RUN. - THE REAL ISSUE WE HAVE IS - PROBABLY THE MISSISSIPPI CASE - THAT COMES NEXT YEAR THAT WILL - BE A REAL TEST ABOUT WHETHER ROE - AND OTHERS STAND. - THIS TEXAS LAW IS A DISTURBING - SIDESHOW, PARTICULARLY IN THE - WAY THAT IT HAS CITIZENS AGAINST - OTHERS IN CIVIL LAWSUITS, YOU - CAN DO THAT WITH GUNS IF YOU - WANTED TO IN CALIFORNIA. - IT TURNS PEOPLE AGAINST ONE - ANOTHER. - I THINK THE WHOLE EXERCISE THE - ATTORNEY GENERAL OF TEXAS HAS - ENGAGED IN HAS ALIENATED A LOT - OF PEOPLE. - JUDY: WE ARE TALKING ABOUT TWO - SETS OF ISSUES, PLAYING GAMES - WITH THE WAY THE LAW WAS WRITTEN - BUT ALSO THE QUESTION OF WOMEN'S

- REPRODUCTIVE RIGHTS. - >> PLAYER PLAYING GAMES WITH - WOMEN'S HEALTH AND HEALTH CARE. - I UNDERSTAND WHAT YOU'RE ARE - SAYING ABOUT THIS DOES NOT - OVERTURN ROE V. WADE, - TECHNICALLY ON PAPER I GUESS, - BUT WHEN YOU DON'T STOP TEXAS - FROM IMPLANTING THIS LAW, - THEREBY MAKING IT POSSIBLE FOR - SOUTH DAKOTA, WHICH IS MAKING - NOISES ABOUT COPYING, FLORIDA - MAKING NOISES ABOUT COPYING, - PRETTY SOON THEY'RE GOING TO - HAVE A BUNCH OF OTHER REPUBLICAN - CONTROLLED STATES COPYING TEXAS - AND HAVING IT GO THROUGH UNTIL - WHICH TIME THE SUPREME COURT - TAKES A STAND ON THE MISSISSIPPI - CASE OR WHEN SOMEONE BRINGS SUIT - AGAINST TEXAS OR DO SOMETHING TO - OFFEND THE TEXAS LAW. - THAT IS WHY THERE IS SO MUCH - FEAR IN THE COUNTRY ABOUT WHAT - THIS MEANS FOR ROE. - IT DID NOT STOP TEXAS AND THE - IDEA OF PITTING NEIGHBORS - AGAINST EACH OTHER, COLLEAGUES, - SNITCHING ON EACH OTHER BECAUSE - SOMEONE IS DESPERATELY TRYING TO

- POTENTIALLY -- SAFEGUARD THEIR - HEALTH AND PERHAPS THE HEALTH O - THEIR UNBORN CHILD, THIS IS - BEYOND HANDMAID'S TALE. - JUDY: DOES IT GIVE ONE SIDE OR - ANOTHER POLITICAL HEFT AT THIS - POINT TO MAKE ITS ARGUMENT? - >> I THINK PEOPLE DON'T QUITE - UNDERSTAND THAT THE REPUBLICAN - PARTY, THE SOCIAL CONSERVATIVES - IN THE PARTY, ABORTION IS NOT - THE CENTRAL ISSUE WRITTEN NOW - FOR A LOT OF THEM. - IT IS CRITICAL RACE THEORY AND - IMMIGRATION AND A LOT OF OTHER - HOT BUTTON CULTURAL ISSUES. - I'M NOT SURE IT RALLIES - REPUBLICANS IN A CERTAIN WAY. - I THINK IT DOES RALLY DEMOCRA. - I THINK THERE IS A BROAD CONCERN - OVER THE FATE OF RO. - I THINK IT'S GOING TO BRING - PEOPLE OUT IN THE 2022 - ELECTIONS. - I THINK THEY ARE GOING TO

- BENEFIT MORE FROM THIS ARGUMENT - GOING FORWARD. - JUDY: HOW DO YOUEE IT? - >> I AGREE WITH MICHAEL. - AS HORRENDOUS AS IT IS, THIS IS - SOMETHING THAT WILL FIRE UP AND - ALREADY FIRED UP AND RESTIVE AND - ANGRY DEMOCRATIC PARTY AND - DEMOCRATIC PARTY BASE. - THE QUESTION IS IN A MIDTERM - ELECTION, IS THAT ENOUGH FIRE TO - GO FROM BEING ANGRY AT WHAT IS - HAPPENING TO GOING IN THE - ELECTION. - IN THE MIDTERMS, DEMOCRATS VOTE - EVEN LESS. - JUDY: AND A LOT OF THAT IS OF - THE COURTS. - THE SUPREME COURT IS ANOTHER - SUBJECT FOR ANOTHER FRIDAY. - THANK YOU BOTH, WE APPRECIATE - IT. - ♪ - JUDY: FOR MANY MUSICIANS AND - LIVE MUSIC VENUES ACROSS THE

- COUNTRY, THE PANDEMIC CREATED AN - EXISTENTIAL CRISIS. - THE HAVE BEEN SIGNS OF LIFE - THIS SUMMER. BUT ALSO, NEW - CLOUDS MAKING THE FUTURE - UNCERTAIN. - JEFFREY BROWN REPORTS FOR OUR - ARTS AND CULTURE SERIES, CANVAS. - JEFFREY: IT WAS PERHAPS THE - GRANDEST OPENING OF A MUSIC - VENUE IN THE COVID-19 ERA. - IN EARLY AUGUST, A YEAR LATE - BECAUSE OF THE PANDEMIC, THE SAN - DIEGO SYMPHONY DEBUTED 'THE RADY - SHELL', - A SPECTACULAR $85 MILLION DOLLAR - OUTDOOR PERFORMANCE SPACE ON THE - CITY'S WATERFRONT, A NEW HOME - FOR MUSIC OF A KINDS. - 3500 PEOPLE TOOK IN THE - CELEBRATION, CONDUCTED BY MUSIC - DIRECTOR RAFAEL PAYARE. - >> IT WAS WONDERFUL. YOU COULD - FEEL THE ELECTRICITY ON THE - STAGE AND FROM THE AUDIENCE. - JEFFREY: THE SYMPHONY ORIGINALLY - PLANNED TO USE THE SHELL AS ITS - SUMMER HOME, BUT WITH THE - PANDEMIC AND THE HIGHLY

- TRANSMISSIBLE DELTA VARIANT, IT - WILL PERFORM HERE THROUGH THE - FALL. - >> THE TIMING OF EVERYTHING, IT - SEEMS LIKE IT WAS MEANT TO BE. - THE BEAUTIFUL THING ABOUT THIS - VENUE IS THAT EVEN THOUGH IT'S - OUTDOOR, AND YOU REMEMBER THAT - YOU ARE OUTDOOR WHEN YOU JUST - LOOK, YOU COULD SEE THE CORONADO - BRIDGE, YOU COULD SEE MEXICO, - YOU OR YOU COULD SEE THE - SIEGEL'S GOING AROUND, -- - SEAGULLS GOING AROUND, IS THAT - THE FEELING ON STAGE THAT YOU - WOULD BE IN AN INDOOR CONCERT - HALL AND A VERY, VERY GOOD ONE. - SO IT'S FANTASTIC. - JEFFREY: A NATIVE OF VENEZUELA, - PAYARE JOINED THE ORCHESTRA IN - 2019, AS CONSTRUCTION WAS - BEGINNING ON THE SHELL JUST - MONTHS BEFORE THE PANDEMIC - SPREAD WORLDWIDE, BRINGING THE - MUSIC INDUSTRY TO A SCREECHING - HALT. - THE SAN DIEGO SYMPHONY - EXPERIMENTED WITH STREAMING - PERFORMANCES FOR ITS - MUSIC-STARVED AUDIENCE. - >> WHEN YOU SEE THAT T - CONCERTS WERE TAKEN AWAY, NOW - THE PEOPLE YOU SEE THAT IT WAS - SOMETHING THAT THEY WERE TAKING - FOR GRANTED A LITTLE BIT AND

- EVERYBODY'S SO HUNGRY AND SO - HAPPY TO HAVE THEM AGAIN. AND - THIS IS SOMETHING VERY - REASSURING AND BEAUTIFUL. - JEFFREY: FOR A YEAR AND A HALF, - ARTISTS AROUND THE GLOBE PUT ON - VIRTUAL PERFORMANCES AND - DRIVE-IN SHOWS. - ♪ - JEFFREY: BUT WHEN VACCINES - BECAME AVAILABLE AND CASE - NUMBERS DROPPED, LIVE MUSIC - BEGAN TO RETURN. - AT BIG FESTIVALS LIKE - LOLLAPALOOZA IN CHICAGO ... - AND HISTORIC VENUES LIKE ROYAL - ALBERT HALL IN LONDON. - THE DOORS ALSO REOPENED AT - SMALLER CLUBS AROUND THE U-S, - -- U.S., LIKE FIRST AVENUE IN - MINNEAPOLIS. - HOW DID IT FEEL THAT THAT FIRST - PERFORMANCE, WHAT WAS IT LIKE? - >> I KEPT SAYING, I KNOW I'M - MARRIED AND I HAVE KIDS, BUT I - THINK THIS WAS THE BEST NIGHT OF - MY LIFE. - JEFFREY: DAYNA FRANK IS OWNER OF - FIRST AVE, RENOWNED IN ROCK - HISTORY AS THE PLACE WHERE, - AMONG MUCH ELSE, PRINCE - PERFORMED AND FILMED "PURPLE - RAIN". - WE FIRST SPOKE LAST SUMMER, AS - VENUES LIKE HERS TEETERED ON THE - BRINK OF EXTINCTION. - AS PRESIDENT OF AN INDUSTRY - TRADE GROUP, SHE HELPED PUSH FOR

- LEGISLATION INCLUDING THE "SAVE - OUR STAGES ACT", PASSED LAST - DECEMBER, GIVING VENUES UP TO - $10 MILLION FOR THINGS LIKE - PAYROLL, RENT AND UTILITIES. - >> OUR INDUSTRY WOULD EXIST - WITHOUT THIS SO IT WAS ALL - NOTHING AND WE KNEW THAT. - JEFFREY: FRANK SAYS THE CRISIS - SHOWED THE LARGER VALUE OF - SPACES LIKE HERS. - >> WITHOUT US, THE HOTEL BEHIND - US DOE'T EXIST. THE FOUR - RESTAURANTS DON'T EXIS THE - UBER DRIVERS DON'T EXIST. AND - BEING ABLE TO REALLY APPRECIATE - -- TELL THAT STORY GIVE US A - PURPOSE BECAUSE OUR COMMUNITIES - WERE RELYING ON US TO SURVIVE. - JEFFREY: BUT NOW, AS THE - PANDEMIC ENTERS A NEW PHASE, SO - TOO DOES THE LIVE MUSIC - INDUSTRY. - FIRST AVE, FOR EXAMPLE, MANDATED - COVID VACCINES FOR ITS STAFF -- - AND NOW REQUIRES CONCERTGOERS TO - SHOW PROOF OF VACCINATION OR A - NEGATIVE TEST. - CONCERT GIANT "LIVE NATION" WILL - DO THE SAME.

- IT PUT ON ABOUT 2300 EVENTS - GLOBALLY IN THE FIRST HALF OF - 2021 COMPARED TO MORE THAN - 18,000 DURING THE SAME TIME IN - 2019. - MEANWHILE, OUTBREAKS ARE TESTING - ARTISTS' COMFORT LEVELS. SOME -- - LIKE GARTH BROOKS AND K-POP - STARS B-T-S -- HAVE CANCELED - SHOWS AND TOURS ALTOGETHER. - ON THE OTHER HAND, ROCK LEGEND - ERIC CLAPTON REPORTEDLY SAID HE - WOULD NOT PLAY ANY VENUES THAT - DO MANDATE VACCINES. - FOR WORKING MUSICIANS IT'S A - TIME OF UNCERTAINTY. - >> I DON'T EVEN KNOW IF WE'RE - ALL GOING TO FEEL COMFORTABLE - GOING TO DINNER, MUCH LESS - PUTTING OURSELVES IN INDOOR - ROOMS NIGHT AFTER NIGHT. - JEFFREY: RYAN MILLER IS LEAD - SINGER AND GUITARIST FOR - GUSTER, THE ALTERNATIVE ROCK - BAND THAT TURNS 30 THIS YEAR, - HANGING ON THROUGH THE PANDEMIC. - >> THERE WASLSO SOME KIND OF - LOW LOWS OF JUST FIGURING OUT - HOW THIS WAS GOING TO PLAY OUT, - HOW WE WERE GOING TO STAY - CONNECTED INTERNALLY, HOW ARE WE - GOING TO STAY CONNECTED TO OUR - FANS, HOW WE'RE GOING TO KEEP - SOME MOMENTUM UP IF THAT EVEN - MATTERED ANYMORE. - >> THE BAND HAD WEEKLY MEENGS - TO STAY CONNECTED AND PLAYED A

- DRIVE-IN SHOW LAST AUGUST IN NEW - HAMPSHIRE. - >> WE'RE IN THE MIDST OF THIS - STORM. BUT WE FELT LIKE IT WAS - IMPORTANT TO DO, EVEN OUGH IT - WAS IT WAS A LOT OF STRESS AND - AND NOT SOMETHING THAT ANY OF US - WERE, LIKE, SUPER EXCITED TO DO - OTHER THAN JUST FEELING LIKE - KIND OF HAD TO. - BUT IN JULY, GUSTER EMERGED FROM - -- - >> BUT IN JULY, GUSTER EMERGED - FROM WHAT BAND MEMBERS CALLED - 'COVID-TIREMENT' TO HEADLINE A - SOLD-OUT SHOW AT 'RED ROCKS' - OUTSIDE DENVER, ALONG WITH THE - COLORADO SYMPHONY. - >> THERE PROBABLY ISN'T A BETTER - STORY THAT I CAN CONCOCT COMIN - OUT OF THIS. - IT WAS A BIFURCATED EXPERIENCE - BECAUSE I'VE GOT 9200 PEOPLE IN - FRONT OF ME. I'VE GOT FOUR BAND - MATES ON THE SIDE OF ME. I GOT - 60 ORCHESTRA PLAYERS BEHIND ME - AND I'M STANDING IN THE MIDDLE - AND BUT ALSO, YOU KNOW, NOT I - -- IT WAS WINDY, I COULDN'T - HEAR, THERE WAS A RAINSTORM 60 - MINUTES BEFORE, MY GUITAR PEDAL - WASN'T WORKING, MY VOICE CRACKED - FOR THE FIRST TIME THAT WEEK ON - THE SECOND SONG. SO I'M IN MY - HEAD BEING LIKE, AM I GOING TO - HAVE MY VOICE GOING TO BLOW OUT? - LIKE WE'RE LIVE STREAMING THIS - ALL OVER THE WORLD. AND SO NONE

- OF US FELT LIKE WHEN WE GOT - OFFSTAGE THAT WE, LIKE, CRUSHED - IT. - BUT THAT NIGHT I WAS READING - EVERY INTERNET COMMENT AND IT - WAS LITERALLY ONLY THEN THAT I - WAS LIKE OH, WE PULLED IT OFF. - JEFFREY NOW, THE BAND IS WORKING - : ON A RECORD AND HAS TENTATIVE - PLANS FOR A TOUR THIS WINTER. - BUT EVERYTHING, SAYS MILLER, IS - ON THE TABLE, INCLUDING THE - FUTURE DIRECTION OF THE MUSIC - INDUSTRY ITSELF. - >> ANYWHERE YOU SPIN, LIKE LIVE - MUSIC, RECORDED MUSIC, STREAMING - MUSIC, COLLABORATION, DIGITAL - SALES IS BEING IMPACTED BY - COVID, IS BEING IMPACTED BY - TECHNOLOGY, IS BEING HIT BY, YOU - -- IMPACTED BY A MUSIC INDUSTRY - THAT WAS THAT IS BASICALLY BEING - DESTROYED AND RECREATED AS WE - SPEAK. - I DON'T THINK THERE WILL BE A - SINGLE PART OF THE MUSIC - INDUSTRY THAT WILL BE UNSCATHED. - JEFFREY FOR THE PBS NEWSHOUR, - : I'M JEFFREY BROWN. - JUDY: YOU'VE GOT TO LOVE THEIR - SPIRIT. - ON THE NEWSHOUR ONLINE RIGHT

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- America has always had - a frontier. - Now that frontier is upward, - and it's out into the cosmos. - >> A child - of the Florida space coast - who became the second sitting - member of Congress in orbit. - >> We have liftoff. - >> Now Bill Nelson's been asked - to lead NASA into the future. - The agenda is ambitious - d expensive -- put an - American back on the Moon by - 2024, then on to Mars. - >> Mars is the goal in the - decade of the 2030s. - >> There's competition from - China and Russia and the space - race among billionaires - to be the first. - >> Liftoff as the Falcon 9 and - Crew Dragon... - >> There's also a brand-new - government report about - unexplained sightings in the - sky. - >> Look at that thing, dude. - >> And it may have raised - more questions than answers. - >> Look at it fl