PBS NewsHour; November 18, 2019, 6:00pm-7:00pm PST

- ♪[MUSIC] - >> GOOD EVENING. - JUDY WOODRUFF IS AWAY ON THE - NOWZ HOUNEWS HOUR TONIGHT. - HONG KONG PROPHET. - THEN RULES OF WAR. - HOW PRESIDENT TRUMP'S LATT - PARDONS RAISE SERIOUS QUESTIONS - ABOUT MILITARY JUSTICE. - AND OUR POLITICS MONDAY TEAM - BREAKS DOWN THE LATEST FROM THE - CAMPAIGN TRAIL AND RULTS FROM - KEY VERNOR'S RACES FROM ACROSS - THE COUNTRY. - ALL THAT AND MORE ON TONIGHT'S - PBS NEWSUR. - >> MAJOR FUNDING FOR THE PBS - NEWSHOUR HAS BEEN PROVIDED BY... - ♪[MUSIC] - >> MOVING OUR ECONOMY FOR 160

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- POSSIBLE BY THE CORPORATIONOR - PUBLIC BROADCASTING AND BY - CONTRIBUTIONS TO YOUR PBS - STATION FROM VIEWERS LIKE YOU. - THANK YOU! - >> POLICE IN HONG KONG TIGHTENED - THEIR SEIZE OF A UNIVERSITY - CAMPUS TONIGHT WHERE HUNDREDS OF - PROTESTERS REMAIN TRAPPED - INSIDE. - IT'S THE LATESTNC BOUT OF VIO - THE CITY HAS SEEN IN NEARLY SIX - MONTHS OF PROTESTS. - IN OTHER PARTS OF THE CITY, - PROTESTS FUELED BY THE STANDOFF - CKCONTINUE. - NI HAS THE LATEST. - REPORTER: OVERNIGHT AND THROUGH - THE MORNING DARKNESS, THE - STREETS OF HONG KDG REMAI A - BATTLEFIELD. - POLICE PUSHED TO RETAKE THE H - CAMPUS OONG KONG'S - POLYTECHNIC UNIVERSITY AND - STUDENTS AND DEMONSTRATORS USED - ANY MEANS NECESSARY TO HOLD - THEIR GROUND. - THROH MASKS THAT PROTE THEM - FROM TEAR GAS, THEY PLEAD FOR - HELP.

- SOMEONELLY HOPE THA - COULD GIVE A HELPING HAND. - REPORTER: IN A PREDAWN RAID, - HONG KONG POLICE ARRESTED A - STUDENT JOURNALIST ANDLY - REPEATEDSKED THE STUDENT TO - STOP RECORDING. - SO STUDENTS FLED ON - MOTORCYCLES. - PROTESTERSRIPPED OVER - BARRICADES AND WERE TACKLED TO - THE GROUND. - THIS IS THE CSCENDO OF SIX - MONTHS OF PROTESTS THAT STARTEDE - AGAINST TH LAW THAT WOULD HAVE - EXTRADITED CRIMINAL SUSPECTS TO - MAINLAND CHINA. - BUT TODAY DEMONSTRATORS ARE - CALLING FOR FUNDAMENTAL REFORM - AND MAINLAND CHINA IS - THREATENING TO ESCALATE. - FOR THE FIRST TIME SINCE THE - PROTESTS BEGAN, THIS WEEKEND - CHINESE SOLDIERS LEFT THEIR HONG - KONG BARRACKS AND CLEANED UP - DEBRISWEARING T-SHIRTS AND - SHORTS. - TODAY CHINA'S AMBASSADOR TO THE - UNITED KINGDOMLAMED THE WEST - FOR INSTIGATING THE PROTESTS AND - WARNED THE PROTESTERS. - >> TO RESTORE LAW AND ORDER, - VIOLENCE MUST END. - AND THE VIOLENCE PERPETRATORS - MUST BE BROUGHT TO JUSTICE. - SAFEGUARD THE INTERESTS OF

- PUBLIC AND SECURE A BETTER - FUTURE FOR HONG KONG. - AND CEMENT THE FOUNDATION OF ONE - COUNTRY, TWO SYSTEMS. - REPORTER: THE TWO SIDES ARE ON A - CYCLE OF ESCALATION. - POLICE SAY THEY'RE DEFENDINGTH - SELVES AND WARN THEY COULD - BEGIN USING LIVE AMMUNITION. - PROTESTERS S THEY'RE - RESPONDING TO POLICE BRUTALITY - AND DEMAND THE CITY GIVE IN TO - THEIR DEMANDS. - >> WE WANTL A PEACENG KONG - TO BE BACK. - BUT I THINK BEFORE THAT, THEO - GOVERNMENT HAS LISTEN TO THE - PEOPLE AND THE POLICE HAVE TO - STOP WHATEVER THEY'RE DOING. - AND I HOPE THAT HONG KONG CAN GO - BACK TO THE PREVIOUS HONG KONG - AS SOON AS POSSIBLE. - REPORTER: FOR MORE ON WHAT THIS - A MAN WHO JUST SPENT 29 YEARS IN - THE STATE DEPARTMENT. - HE SERD THE FROM 2016 TO - JULY 2019. - HE'S NOW A PARTNER AT THE ASIA

- GROUP, AN INTERNATION BUSINESS - CONSULTING FIRM. - WELCOME TO NEWSHOUR. - CAWHAT IS THE SIGNIE OF WHAT - WE'RE LOOKING AT RIGHT NOW, THE - STANDOFF IN THIS UNIVERSITY? - ONE OF THE FIR TIMES WHERE - WE'VE SEEN PROTESTERS ACTUALLY - TRY AND HOLD A LITTLE BIT OF - GROUND. - >> I THINK THAT'S RIGHT. - IT'S A DEPARTURE IN STRATEGY BY - TH PROTESTERS TO ESTABLISH - ESSENTIALLY A SITUATION WHERE - THEY'RE UNDER SIEGE RATHER THANH - USINR OLD PHILOSOPHY OF - MOVE LIKE WATER, HAVE A PROTEST - AND THEN LEAVEEFORE THEY CAN - GET ARRESTED. - I THINK IT CREATES NEW RISKS - BOTH FOR T PROTESTERS BUT ALSO - FOR HOW THE POLICE HANDLE IT. - >> SO THE POLICE HANDLING OF NOT - THROUGHOUTOMENT BUT - THIS PROCESS, THE PROTESTERS - POLICE BRUTALITY. THINGS LIKE - THAT'S THE LANGUAGE THAT THEY - USE. - WE DO SEE VIDEOS OF POLICE - BEATING UP PROTESTERS F SURE. - DO YOU BELIEVE THAT SOME OF THE - POLICE ACTIONS OVER THE LAST FEE - MONTHS HUELED THE - PROTESTERS? - >> I THINK THAT'S RIGHT. - I THINK THAT THE POLICE HAVE - BEEN UNDER INTENSE PRESSURE. - PERSONALLY I DON'T THINK THAT

- THEY WERE PARTICULARLY - WELL-TRAINED FOR THIS KIND OF - CIRCUMSTANCE. - RESPONSE TO PEOPLE COMING ATAL - THEM VIOLENTLY AND IN SOME - INSTANCES RESPONDING - INAPPROPRIATELY. - INAPPROPRIATE, RESPONDING - VIOLENTLY IN WAYS THAT THEY - SHOULDN'T HAVE. - THAT IS SOMETHING THAT THE - PROTESTERS ARE NOW CALLING FOR - AN INVESTIGATION OF. - AND THAT PROBABLY -- IT IS - IMPORTANT TO REMEMBER, AT THE - SAME TIME, THAT THE PROTESTERS - HAVE, IF YOU WILL, TAKEN FIRST - BLOOD IN TERMS OF MAKING THIS A - VIOLENT SITUATION. - >> OF COURSE, BEHIND THE POLICE, - LITERALLY IN A GARRISONN THE - MIDDLE OF HONG KONG ARE CHINESE - SOLDIERS. - WE SAW THEM OUT IN T-SHIRTS AND - SHORTS. - >> RIGHT.SE - >> IN RESPO THIS IN THE - LAST DAY OR SO. - WE TALKED TO SOME PEOPLE WHO - FEAR IT COULD BE SOME KIND OF - TEST RUN OF SOME SORT. - DO YOU SHARE THAT TEAR THAT, - CHINESE MILITARY COULD RESPOND - IN SOME WAYHI IF VIOLENCE - CONTINUES?

- >> THE FACT OF THE MATTER IS - THAT THERE IS A SIGNIFICANT - MILITARY PRESENCE IN HONG KONG, - WHICH IS NOT DESIGNED FOR CROWDL - CONT OR FOR POLICE ACTIVITY. - CHINA, OF COURSE, H IMMENSE - POLICE RESOURCES ACROSS THE - BORDER THAT ARE NOT, AGAIN, - PREPARED FOR WORKING IN THE HONG - KONG ENVIRONMENT UNDER HONG KONG - LAW. - SOHINK THAT THE OPTIONS FOR - THE MAINLAND IN TERMS OF DIRECT - INTERVENTION ARE LIMITED AND BAD - AND SO I DON'T ANTICATE THAT - HAPPENING. - BUT THEY HAVE, FROM TIME TO - TIME, FOR EXAMPLE, EARLIER THIS - FALL, THEY RELEASED A VIDEO OF - THEM PRACTICING THIS KD OF - ACTIVITY. - >> AND WE'VE SEEN THE RHETORIC - INCREASE FROM CHINESE OFFICIALS, - INCLUDING XI JINPING. - >> AND THAT'S INTENDED TO SCARE - PEOPLE. - >> AS A LEVEL OF DETERRENCE?HI - YOU DON'T TNK IT WILL GO - BEYOND THAT? - >> I CERTAINLY HOPE NOT. - I THINK IT WOULD BE A MISTAKE IF - IT DID. - >> THE U.S. HAS IN FACT WARNED - CHINA NOT TO GO FURTHER THAN IT - HAS GONE. - WE SAW SECRETARY OF STATE MIKE

- POMPEO TODAY IN THE STATE - DEPARTMENT SAY TWO THINGS. - ONE, HE ENDORSED THE IDEA OF - THAT POLICE INVESTIGATION. - AND HE A AO GAV LITTLE BIT OF - A REFERENCE TO ONE OF THE - PROTESTERS' KEY DEMANDS - LET'S TAKE A LISTEN. - >> WE CALL ON CHIEF EXECUTIVE - CARRIE LAM TO PROMOTE - ACCOUNTABILITY BYTI SUPPLEM - THE REVIEW WITH AN INDEPENDENT - INVESTIGATION INTO THE - PROTEST-RELATED INCIDENTS. - AS THE UNITED STATES GOVERNMENT - HAS SAID REPEATEDLY, THE CHINESE - COMMUNIST PARTY MUST HONOR ITS - PROMISES TO THE HONG KONG - OPLE, WHO ONLY WANT THE - FREEDOMS AND LIBERTIES THAT THEY - HAVE BEEN PROMISED IN THE JOINT - DECLARATION. - >> MUST HONOR ITS PROMISES AND - POLICE INVESTIGATION. - IS THAT AN ADEQUATE U.S. - RESPONSE? - >> I THINK THAT'S A GOOD - RESPONSE. - CERTAINLY I THINK WHAT SECRETARY - POMPEO SAID IS RIGHT. - AND, YOU KNOW, WE NEED TO KEEP - IN MIND THAT THERE ARE SOME - LIMITS T THE REACH OF THE - UNITED STATES TO INFLUENCE - EVENTS WITHIN HONG KONG. - BU CERTAINLY CALLING FOR A - THOROUGH INVESTIGATION OF WHAT - HAS TAKEN PLACE IS A NATURAL

- THING TO DO IN THIS CIRCUMSTANCE - AND AN IMPORTANT THING DO. - AND THE REFERENCE TO THE 1984 IS - SPOT-ON. - I THINK IT'S REALLY IMPORTANTER - FOR NE IN THIS - CIRCUMSTANCE TO REALLY THINK - CAREFULLY ABOUT WHAT ARE WE - TRYING TO ACHIEVE. - WHAT ARE THEY TRYING TO ACHIEVEH - ARE THE PROTESTERS TRYING - TO ACHIEVE, WHAT DOES CHINA - WANT, WHAT DOES HONG KONG WANT, - WHAT DOES THE UNITED STATES - WANT. - >> AND QUICKLY, U.S. OFFICIALS - ARE WEIGHING EVEN MORE DRASTIC - OPTIONS, FOR EXAMPLE, EVEN - REMOVING DIPLOMATS FROM HONG - KONG, SOME KIND OF SANCTIONS.OS - WOULD MOVES BE POSITIVE, - DO YOU THINK? - >> IHI THAT IT DEPENDS ON - WHO THE SANCTIONS ARE ON. - REMOVING DIPLOMATS I DON'T THINK - IS NECESSARY UNLESS IT'S UNSAFE. - >> COULD IT SIGNAL TO REMOVE - DIPLOMATS? - IT COULD, BUT WOULD IT BE - EFFECTIVE? - I WOULD QUESTION THAT. - I THINK THE BIGGERUESTION HERE - IS, WHATEVER THE U.S. DOES, AS A - MATTER OF U.S. POLICY, SHOULD BE - CAREFULLY DESIGNED TO REALLY HAS - AN IMPACT ONTI SIT IN A

- POSITIVE WAY, NOT AN EMOTIONAL - RESPONSE TO SHORT-TERM XI GEN - SIS BUT -- HOW DO WE REINFORCE - THIS HONG KONG THAT'S A PART OF - THE REST OF CHINA.DIFFERENT FROM - TO BE SPECIFIC, IT'S IMPORTANT - THAT THE UNITED STES NOT DO - SOMETHING THAT ACTUALLY ENDS UP - HURTING THE HONG KONG PEOPLE - MOREHAN THE INTENDED TARGET, - WHICH IN THE CASE OF A BAD - SITUATION THERE, WOULD BE THE - BEIJING GOVERNMENT. - IF HONG KONG IS NO LONGER -- IF - THEY NO L HGERE AUTONOMY, WE - SHOULD TREAT IT LIKE IT NO - LONGER HAS AUTONOMY. - BUT IF IT HAS AUTONOMY, I DON'T - THINK WE SHOULD TAKE AWAY OUR - RECOGNITION OF THAT AUTONOMY - BECAUSE OF A SHORT-TERM - SITUATION. - IT'S A GREAT PLACE TO DOSS - BUSIND A COMMUNICATION - POINT FOR DEALING WITH CHINA. - SEVEN MILLIONPLE LIVE, MOST - OF WHOM WE LIKE, AND WE DON'T - WANT TO TAKE AWAY THEIR - LIVELIHOOD JUST TO SPITE - BEIJING. - JULY, THANK, UNTIL

- YOU VERY MUCH. - >> THANK YOU. - ♪[MUSIC] - >> GOOD EVENING FROM NEWSHOUR - WEST. - I'M STEPHANIE. - AN UPDATE TO OUR TOP STORY. - IT IS TUESDAY MORNING IN HONGNG - AND BEIJING HAS TAKEN TWO - ACTIONS TO TRY AND REGAIN - CONTROL OF THE STREETS. - IT IS OF RULING HONG KONG'S HIGH - COURT ON THE ISSUE OF WHETHER - PROTESTERS CAN WR FACE MASKS. - THE COURT HAD EARLIER RULED THAT - A BAN ON THE MASKS WAS - UNCONSTITUTIONAL. - AND NOW CHINA'S COMMUNIST - GOVERNMENT SAYS THE COURT - DOESN'T HAVE THE POWER TO DECIDE - THAT. - ALSO TODAY, A NEW HONG KONG - POLICE COMMISSIONER APPOINTED BY - BEIJING WAS SWORN IN.HE - IN IRAN, POWERFUL - REVOLUTIONARY GUA WARNED - PROTESTERS THEY WILL FACE - DECISIVE ACTION IF NATIONWIDE - UNREST DOES NOT STOP. - PEOPLE OCCUPIED STREETS AND SET - FIRE TO CARS, BANKS AND OTHER

- BUILDINGS OVER THE WEEKEND. - THEY WERE ANGERED BY AAR 50% - HIERY IN GASOLINE PRICES -- - HIKE IN GASOLINE PRICES.HE - >> TODAY SITUATION WAS - CALMER. - MORE THAN 80%, COMPARED TO - YESTERDA - ONLY SOME MINOR PROBLEMS REMAIN. - BY TOMORROW, AND THE DAY AFTER, - THERE WILL BE N RISE. - >> THE PROTESTS TOOK PLACE IN - DOZENS OF CITIES. - IN IRAQ, ANTI-GOVERNMENT - PROTESTERS AGAIN SEIZED A MAJORI - BRIDGE BAGHDAD, BURNING TIRES - TO BLOCK TRAFFIC. - THEY ALSO HELD A FUNERAL - PROCESSION FOR A PROTESTER - KILLEDY SECURITY FORCES. - MORE THAN 320 DEMONSTRATES HAVE - BEEN KILLED IN RECENT WEEKS AS - THEY DEMAND A NEW GERNMENT AND - REFORMS. - THE TRUMP ADMINISTRATION IS - SOFTENING ITS POLICY ON ISRAELI - SETTLEMENTS IN THE WEST BANK. - MIKE POMPEO ANNOUNCED HE WILL - ABANDON A 1978 LEGAL FINDING - THAT THE SETTLEMENTS ARE W - INCONSISTEH INTERNATIONAL - LAW. - POMPEO SAID THE FINDING HAD

- HINDERED THE PATH TO PEACE. - >> WE'VE HAD A LONG TIME WITH - THE POLICY, THE LEGAL - INTERPRETATION ANNOUNCED THE - OTHER WAY AND IT DIDN'T WORK. - THAT'S A FACT IN EVIDENCE. - WE BELIEVE THAT WHAT WE'VE DONE - TODAY, IS WE'VE RECOGNIZED THE - REALITY ON THE GROUND. - WE THINK IN FACT WE'VE INCREASED - THE LIKELIHOOD THAT THE VISION - FOR PEACE THATS - ADMINISTRATION HAS, WE THINK - WE'VE CREATEDPACE FOR THAT TO - BE SUCCESSFUL. - SERIES OF TRUMP ADMINISTRATION - DECISIONS THAT WEAKEN - PALESTINIAN CLAIMS TO STATEHOOD. - NORTH KOREARED TODAY IT - DOES NOT WANT MEANINGLESS - CLEAR TALKS WITH THE U.S. - PRESIDENT TRUMP HAD HINTED AT A - THIRD SUMMIT WITH KIM JONG-UN - BUT NORTH KOREA'S FOREIGN - MISTRY SAYS KIM REJECT ANY - SUMMIT UNLESS HE GETS SOMETHING - TANGIBLE. - A SENIO, OFFICIAL SAID, QUO - WE WILL NO LONGER GIFT THE U.S. - PRESIDENT WITH SOMETHING HE CAN - BOAST OF. - KIM HAS DEMANDED THAT THE U.S. - OFFER ACCEPTABLE TERMS BY THE - END OF THE YEAR IN RETURN FOR - HIM E NORTH KOREA'S NUCLEAR

- PROGRAM. - BACK IN THIS COUNTRY, AIO - CONGREL WATCH DOG GROUP - SAYS AT LEAST 60%F SUPERFUND - SITES ARE PRONE TO FLOODING OR - OTHER EFFECTS OF CLIMATENG C - THOSE SITES CONTAIN HAZARDOUS - INDUSTRIAL WNMTE. - THE GOVT ACCOUNTABLE - OFFICE CALLED FOR THEOT - ENVIRONMENTAL TION AGENCY - TO STATE SPECIFICALLY THAT IT - WILL FOCUS ON THE PROBLEM. - SEVEN PEOPLE ARE DEAER A TWO - SHOOTINGS IN DIFFERENT PARTS OF - THE COUNTRY. - IN DUNCAN, OKLAHOMA, THREE - PEOPLE WERE KILLED TODAY OUTSIDE - A WALMART. - SHOT TWOY THE GUNMAN - PEOPLE IN A CAR BEFORE KILLING - HIMSELF. - MEANWHILE, A MANHUNTS I UNDER - WAY IN FRESNO, CALIFORNIA, FOR - TWO MEN WHO SHOT ANDD KIL FOUR - PEOPLE SUNDAY EVENING. - IT HAPPENED AT A BACKYARD - GATHERING. - SIX MORE PEOE WERE WOUNDEDN - THE SHOOTING. - >> THEY WALKED INTO THE - BACKYARD. - AND BEGAN IMMEDIATELY FIRING - INTO THE CROWD. - 10 OF THOSE 16EOPLE AT THAT - EVENT. - WERE HIT, SUCK BY BULLETS.

- THE UNKNOWN SUSPECTS FLED THE - SCENE ON FOOT. - WHAT I CAN TELL YOU IS THIS WAS - NOA RANDOM ACT. - >> SUPREME COURT CHIEF JUSTICE - RON ROBERTS HAS -- JOHN ROBERTS - HAS ORDERED A HOLD OETTING - HOUSE DEMOCRATS SEE TRUMP'S TAX - RECORDS. - A FEDERAL COURT HAD ORDERED IN - FAVOR OF SUBPOENAING THENT - DOCU - THERE IS AN UNSPECIFIED TIME TO - GIVE THE HIGH COURT TIME TO - ISSUE A DINITIVE RULING. - PRESIDENT TRUMP IS BACKING AWAY - FROM A PLAN TO BAR SALES OF MOST - FLAVORED E-CIGARETTE PRODUCT. - HE SAID IN SEPTEMBER HEOULD - ANNOUNCE A BAN TO TRY AND CURB - TEENAGE VAPING BUT IT WAS WIDELY - REPORTED TODAY THAT HE CHANGED - HIS MIND AFTER BEING WARNED THAT - A CRACKDOWN COULD COST JOBS AND - VOTES. - STTL TO COME, THE LAT ON THE - IMPEACHMENT INQUIRY AND WHAT TO - EXPECT IN THE SECOND WEEK OF - PUBLIC HRINGS. - HOW PRESIDENT TRUMP'S LATEST - PARDONS RAISE CONCERNS ABOUT - MILITARY JUSTICE.

- DOWN THE LATEST FROM THEREAKS - CAMPAIGN TRAIL. - PLUS, A NEW EXHIBIT OF PAINTINGS - BY WINSLOW HOMER EXAMINES THE - ARTIST'S FASCINATION WITH THE - SEA. - >> THIS IS THE PBS NEWSHOUR FROM - WETA STUDIOS IN WASHINGTON AND - IN THE WEST FROM THE WALTER - CRONKITE SCHOOL AF JOURNALISMT - ARIZONA STATE UNIVERSITY. - >> THE STAGE IS SET ON CAPITOL - HILL FOR THE SECOND WEEK OF - PUBLIC HEARINGS IN THE - IMPEACHMENT INQUIRY TNTO - PRESIDENMP. - AND AS WHITE HOUSE CORRESPONDENE - RTS, THERE IS WORD TODAY HE - MAY TESTIFY ON HIS OWN BEHALF. - >> ON CBS'S FACE THE NATIO - SUNDAY, HOUSE SPEAKER NANCY - PELOSI INVITED PRESIDENT TRUMP - TO TESTIFY. - >> IF HE HAS INFORMATION THAT IS - TAKING AWAY CULPA, BLAME, WE - LOOK FORWARD TO SEEING IT. - THE PRESIDENT COULD COME BEFORE

- THE COMMITTEE AND SPEAK ALL THE - TRUTH, IF HE WANTS TO TAKE THE - OATH OF OFFICE, OR HE COULD DO - IT IN WRITING. - REPORTER: TODAY TRUMP RESPONDED - ON TWITTER. - HE SAID, I LIKE THE IDEA AND - WILL STRONGLYONSIDER IT. - PRESIDENT TRUMP IS ACCUSED OF - WITH HOLDING ALMOST400 MILLION - IF MILITARY AID FM UKRAINE IN - EXCHANGE FOR PROBES INTO HIS - POLITICAL OPPONENTS - OVER THE WEEKEND, REPUBLICANS - CONTINUED TO DEFEND THE - PRDAIDENT. - JIM J OF OHIO, WHO SITS ON - THE HOUSE INTELLIGENCE - COMMITTEE, SAID DEMOCRATS DON'TE - CASE BECAUSE UKRAINE - NEVER FOLLOWED THROUGH WITH ANY - OF THE INVESTIGA AONS. - O APPEARED ON FACE THE - NATION. - >> THE UKRAINIANS DID NOTHING A - AS FARINVESTIGATIONS GOES, - TO GET THE AID RELEASE. - QUO THAT THE DEMOCRATS ALLID PRO - PROMISE EXISTED BEFORE PRESIDENT - TRUMP RELEASED THE PHONE CALL. - TODAYER: IN AN INTERVIEW - TH JUDY WOODRUFF AT A CANCER - FUNDRAISERN SAN ANTONIO, - FORMER SECRETARY OF STATE REX - TILLERSON CRITICIZED THE - PRESIDENT'S ACTIONS. - PROPER IN THE ROLE OF AD

- DIPLOMAT? - >> WELL -- - >> ANDME INCAN FOREIGN - POLICY. - >> CLEARLY ASKING FOR PERSONAL - FAVORS AND USING THE UNITED - STATES' ASSETS AS COLLATERAL IS - WRONG. - THERE'S JUST NO TWO WAYS ABOUT - IT. - REPORTER: MEANWHILE, HOUSE - DEMOCRATS ON SATURDAY RELEASED - TWO MORERANSCRIPTS FROM - CLOSED-DOOR TESTIMONY. - THEY CAME FROM TIM MORRISO A - DEPARTING N.S.C NATIONAL SECURIY - COUNCIL AND JENNIFER WILLIAMS, - WHO WAS AN AID TO VICE PRESIDENT - PENCE. - BOTH WERE ON THE JULY 25 CALL - BETWEEN PRESIDENT TRUMP AND - UKRAIAN PRIDENT VOLODYMYR - ZELENSKY. - ON IT, TRUMP PRESSED ZELENSKY TO - INVESTIGATE DEMOCRATS - HE ALSO WAS CONCERNED ABOUT HOW - ITS RELEASE MIGHT AFFECT THE - UKRAINIAN PERCEPTIONS OF THE - U.S.-UKRAINE RELATIONSHIP BUT HE - SAID, QUOTE, I WAS NOT CONCERNED - THAT ANYTHING ILLEGAL WAS - SCUSSED.

- WILLIAMS TESTIFIED THE CALL - SEEMED, QUOTE, UNUSUAL AND - INAPPROPRIATE. S - SHE SAID ITD LIGHT ON - POSSIBLE OTHER MOTIVATIONS - BEHIND A SECURITY ASSISTANCE - HOLD. - IN A TWEET ON SATURDAY, - ESIDENT TRUMP WENT AFTER - WILLIAMS. - HE CALLED HER A TRUMPER AND - ACCUSED HER AND OTHER WITNESSES - OF ATTACKING HIM. - WILLIAMS AND MORRISON PLAN TO - TESTIFY PUBLICLY ALONG WITH ARMY - LIEUTENANT COLONEL ALEXANDER - VINDMAN. - NATIONAL SECURITY COUNCIL - DIRECTOR FOR CURRENT AFFAIRS AS - WELL AS KURT VOLKER. - THEY WILL ALL APPEAR BEFORE THE - HOUSE INTELLIGENCE COMMITTEE - TOMORROW. - >> NOW TO BREAK ALL OF THIS - DOWN, GOOD TO SEE YOU. - >> GREAT TO BE HERE. - WEEK.'S START WITH THE - 'S A BIG ONE. - WE'VE GOT THREE DAYS OF PUBLIC - HEARINGS. - A NUMBER OF OFFICIALS COMING - BEFORE CONGRESS TO TESTIFY. - WALK US THROUGH WHO WE' GOING - TO HEAR FROM AND WHY THEY - MATTER. - >> WE HAVE A PACKED SCHEDULE - THIS WEEK. - DEMOCRATS WANT TO DO THIS TO - MAKE SURE THEY'RE BASICALLY - LAYING OUT THEIR - THERE ARE A NUMBER OF OFFICIALS - WHO ARE SERVING IN THE TRUMP - ADMINISTRATION OR WHO HAV

- SERVED IN THE TRUMP - ADMINISTRATION. - THERE ARE THREE KEY PEOPLE THAT - I'M GOING TO P TNT - THE FIRST IS LIEUTENANT COLONEL - ALEXANDER VINDMAN. - HE IS SOMEONE STILL WORKING AT - THE NATIONAL SECURITY COUNCIL. - HE'S THEIR UKRAINE EXPERT AND - SOMEONE WHO HAS H PURPLERT. - HE'S THE ONE THAT DEMOCRATS - POINT TO AND SAY, THIS IS - SOMEONE WITH VERY GOOD - CHARACTER. - THEY'RE GOING TO POINT OUT THAT - HE IS SOMEONE WHO HAD CONCEIMS - IN REA WITH THE JULY 25 - PHONE CALL BETWEEN PRESIDENT - TRUMP AND THE PRESIDENT OF THE - UKRAINE. - VINDMAN LISTENED INTO THAT CALL, - THEN WENT TO HIS SUPERIORS AND - SAID, I HAVE CONCERNS AWAUT THE - THAT THE PRESIDENT IS ASKING - FOR INVESTIGATIONS INTO JOE - BIDEN AND HISHU SONER BIDEN. - REPUBLICANS, THOUGH, SAY THAT - VINDMAN HAS BEEN INCONSISTENT - THEY ALSO SAY HE'S SOMEONE WHO - CAN'T REALLY SPEAK TO WHETHER OR - THAT'S IMPEACHABLE HE SOMETHING - SHOULDN'T ESSENTIALLY BE COMING - BEFORE CONGRESS IN THIS WAY. - THAT'S O PERSON THEY'RE GOING - TO BE POINTING TO AND KIND OF - CONTRASTING MENTIONS BETWEEN - BOTH PARTIES. - SECOND IS KURT VOLKER, ATI - LO FOREIGN SERVICES - OFFICER, A SPECIAL ENVOY TO - UKRAINE FROM THE U.S.O

- HE'S LONGER IN THAT ROLE BUT - HE'S SOMEONE THAT DEMOCRATS ARE - GOING TO POINT TO AND SAY, WHEN - THAT CALL CAME OUT ANDVEONE - LEARNED WHAT HAPPENED ON JULY - 25, HE SAID HE WAS SURPRISED AND - TROUBLED. - BUT REPUBLICANS, AGAIN, ARE - GOING TO BE MAKING THE CASE THAT - KURT VOLKERAID HE WAS NEVER - WRONG.F REQUESTED TO DO ANYTHING - ALSO GOING TO SAY, HE - THINKS, IS SOMEONE WHO UKRAINE - DIDN'T KNOW IN REATIME T - THIS MONEY WAS BEING HELD UP. - ESSENTIALLY THEY COULDN'T BE - TIBED, BECAUSE THEY DID KNOW - A BRIBE WAS HAPPENING. - THE THIRD PERSON IS GORDON - SONDLAND. - HE'S THE PERSON EVERYONE IS - INING TO BE WAT I'M GOING - TO BE WATCHING, BECAUSE HE IS A - EURO -- EUROPEAN UNION - AMBASSADOR, A CLOSE ALLEY WITH - TRUMP. - DEMOCRATS SAY HNE THAT - PRESIDENT TRUMP WANTED THESE - INVESTIGATIONS BEFORE AND AFTER - THE CALL AND THAT -- THAT HE WAS - PRESSURING FOR THAT. - REPUBLICANS ARE GOING TO BE - MAKING THE CASE THAT SONDLAND IS - SOMEONE MAYBE ACTING ON HIS OWN - BUT THE PRESIDENT DIDN'T - DIRECTLY SAY I NEED YOU TO DO

- THIS FOR ME. - >> AND SOME OF THO FOLKS ARE - GOING TO RAISE CONCERNS ABOUT - THE PRESIDENT'S BEHAVIOR AND - WHAT THEY ALLEGEDLY SAW. - PRESIDENT TRUMP HAS ALREADY BEEN - TWEETING ABOUT SOME OF THEM.OU - WHAT ARE HEARING FROM - REPUBLICANS, FROM HIS OWN PARTY, - ABOUT THE PRESIDENT'S ACTIONS? - >> THE SCK OF FRIDA AND THE - PRESIDENT GOING AFTER AMBASSADOR - YOVANOVITCH, FORMER ADOR - TO UKRAINE, IN REALTIME DURING - THE IMPEACHMENT INQUIRY HAS NOT - WORN OFF. - THEY SAY, ARE YOU TALNG TO - WHITE HOUSE -- ARE YOU GOING TO - BE -- A THEY GOING TE ABLE - TO CONTROL THE PRESIDENT? - NO ONE CAN STOP HIM FROM - TWEETING - THE REPUBLICANS ARE HOPING THEY - WON'T BE ATTACKING A LOT OF THE - HEWITNESSES' CHARACTER BUT - PRESIDENT HAS ALREADY BEEN - TWEETING, SAYING THESE ARE NEVER - WE'RE GOING TOE TO WATCH - CLOSELY PRESIDENT TRUMP'S - TWITTESACCOUNT BECAUSE I - LIKELY GOING TO BE VERY ACTIVE. - PIECE, SPEAKER PELOSI HAD SAID - THE PRESIDENT IS WELCOME TO COME - BEFORE THIS HEARING AND TESTI G - ANE US HIS ACCOUNT.

- HE HAS TWEETED HE MIGHT BE OPEN - TO THAT. - WHAT DO WEW ABOUT THAT - HAPPENING? - >> WELL, THE PRESIDENT SAYS, - HEY, YOU HAVE QUESTIONS FOR ME. - IANT TO GIVE YOU ANSWERS, IN - WRITING. - THE ISSUE IS THAT THE HOUSE IS - ALREADY LOOKING INTO WHETHER OR - NOT THE PRESIDENT LIE TO - SPECIAL COUNSEL ROBERT MUELLER - DURING THE RUSSIA INVESTIGATION. - INADEQUATE AND HE REALLY WAS NOT - HAPPY WITH THE FACT THAT HE - COULDN'T HAVE FOLLOW-UP - QUESTIONS TO THE PRESIDENT. - THE OTHER THING TO NOTE, - PRESIDENT PLAYINGES HERE.LLY THE - THE PRESIDENT, IF HE REALLY - WANTED TO COME BEFORE CONGRESS, - COULD SIT BEFORE LAWMAKERS ANDST - ANSWER QNS. - THEY ALSO SAY HE COULD PROVIDE - PEOPLE LIKE ACTING CHIEF OF - STAFF MICK MULVANEY, WHO HAS - REFUSED TO COME BEFORE CONGRESS, - A COME SPEAK BEFORE - CONGRESS. - THEY ALSO SAY HE COULD TELL JOHN - BOLTON TO COME BEFORE CONGRESS. - THEY COULD PROVIDE DTS AT - THE WHITE HOUSE TO HELP THIS - IMPEACHMENT INQUIRY - THEY'RE NOT REALLY DOING ANY OF - THAT. - DEMOCRATS ARE SAYING, WE

- UNDERSTAND THAT THE PRESIDENT - WANTS TO PROVIDE WRITTEN ANSWERS - BUT THAT'S NOT JUST -- JUST - GOOD ENOUGH. - >> A BUSY WEEK AHEAD. - YOU'RE GOING TO BE FOLLOWING IT - ALL. - >> THANKS. - >> AND YOU CAN JOIN US FOR - SPECIAL LIVE COVAGE OF THE - PUBLIC IMPEACHMENT HEARINGS. - WE START TOMORROW MORNING AT 9 - A.M. EASTERN. - ♪[MUSIC] - >> LATE FRIDAY, PRESIDENT TRUMP - INTERVENED IN THE LEGAL CASES OF - THREE U.S. SERVICE MEMBERS, ALL - OF WHOM HAVE BEEN ACCUSED OF WAR - CRIMES, AGAINST THE AICE OF - THE PENTAGON, THE PRESIDENT - PARDONED TWO OF THEEN AND - REINSTATED THE RANK OF THE - THIRD. - THESE CASES HAVE IITED A - DEBATE ABOUT JUSTICE IN WAR AND - WHETHER THESE MOVES UNDERMINEMI - THTARY'S OWN LEGAL SYSTEM. - >> THAT'S RIGHT. - DESPITE THE OBJECTIONS OF SOME - SENIOR OFFICIALS IN THE - PENTAGON, PRESIDENT TRUMP - BELIEVED THESE MEN HAD BEEN - WRONGEDY MILITARY JUSTICE AND

- SO HE S IN. - IN A STATEMENT ISSUED FRIDAY, - THE WHITE HOUSE SAID FOR MORE - THAN 200 YEARS, PRESINTS HAVE - USED THEIR AUTHORITY TO OFFER - SECOND CHANCES TO DESERVING - INDIVIDUALS. - HAVE SERVED OUR COUNTRY.RM - THE FIRST PARDON WENT TO ARMY - LIEUTENANT CLINT LAWRENCE, WHO - IN 2013 WAS CONVICTED OF - SECOND-DEGREE MURDER - ORDERING MEMBERS OF HIS PLATOON - TO SHOOT SEVERAL AFGHAN MEN - APPROACHING ON MOTORCYCLES. - LAWRENCE HAD BEEN SENTENCED TO - 19 YEARS IN PRISON. - THE SECOND PARDON WAS FOR ARMY - MAJOR MATTHEW GOLDSTIEN, A - HIGHLY DECORATED OFFIC WHO - Y TER ADMITTED TO KILLING AND - BURNING THE BODOF A SUSPECTED - TALIBAN BOMB MAKER IN - AFGHOISTAN. - HE WASO ON TRIAL NEXT YEAR. - THE THIRD INVOLVED NAVY SEAL - EDDIE GALLAGHER, ANOTHER HIGHLY - DECORATED MAN W EARLIER THIS - SUSPECTED TEENAGE ISIS FIGHTER. - GALLAGHER WAS DEM THOUGH, - BECAUSE HE POSED WITH THE DEAD

- BOY'S BODY IN A PHOTOGRAPH. - JOINING ME NOW ARE TWO PEOPLE - WITH VERY DIFFE VIEWS ON THE - PRESIDENT'S VIEWS. - ONE IS THE C.E.O. OF UNITED - AMERICAN PATRIOTS, AN ADVOCACY - GROUP THAT SUPPORTS PERSONNEL - WHEN THEY GET INTO LEGALOU - E. - AND RACHEL VAND LANDING HAM HAD - A 20-YEAR CAREER. - SHE TREECHE TEACHES CRIMINAL LAD - NATIONAL SECURITY LAW. - WELCOME TO YOU BOTH. - RACHEL, THE PRESIDENT HIS - STATEMENT ON FRIDAY SAID THAT - THESE THREE MEN WERE - OF THIS PARDON, DESERVING OF - MERCY, AS HE SAID ELSEWHERE INTH - STATEMENT. - I KNOW YOU HAVE BEEN VERY - CRITICAL OF THE PRESIDENT'S - MOVE. - WH YOUR CONCERN? - >> MY CONCERN, I THINK, I HOPE - EVERYONE IS DESERVING OF MERCY, - BUT BY PASSWORDING THESE - THREE --ARNING THESE THREE - INDIVIDUALS, HE UNDERMINES NOT

- JUST THE MILITARY JUSTICEYSTEM - BUT HIS OWN MILITARY COMMANDERS. - IN THE MILITARY, IT IS SENIOR - LEVEL COMMANDERS THAT MAKE THE - DECISION TO BRING CHARGES - AGAINST ONE OF THEIR - SUBORDINATES. - IT'S NOT LAWYERS. - AND GUESS WHAT? - IN THE MILITARY, IT'S ALSO - MILITARY MEMBERS, THOSE WHO - UNDERSTAND AND APPRECIATE THEAT - OPNAL COMPLEXITIES OF THE - BATTLEFIELD THAT SIT IN JUDGMENT - OF THEIREERS. - SO BY PARDONING THESE - INDIVIDUALS AND SAYING THEY WERE - DESERVING OF I MERCY, WHATS HE - SAYING ABOUT THE COMMANDERS AND - FELLOW MILITARY MEMBED THAT - FO THAT THESE THREE -- AT - LEAST THAT -- EXCUSE ME -- THAT - WE HAD TWO CONVICTED WAR - CRIMINALEARLIER THIS YEAR THAT - WERE PARDONED. - WE HAD THE LIEUTENANT CONVICTED - AND THEN WE HAD GOLDSTEIN'S WAR - CRIMES COUTIAL THAT'S BEEN - ABORTED. - WHAT MESSAGE IS PRESIDENT TRUMP - SENDING TO THE FKS THA SAT - THROUGHOUT ALL THESE PROCESSES? - AND WHAT MESSAGE IS HE SENDING - TO THOSE INDIVIDUALS THAT ARE

- ADHERING TO THE COMMANDS OFEA - THEIR SENIORRSHIP, THAT - ARE ADHERING TO THE PROPER AND - HONORABLE WAY TO FIGHT? - I'M NOT THIS IS ABOUT - INDIVIDUALSING DESERVING OF - MERCY -- INDIVIDUALS BEING - DESERVING OF MERCY. - >> THERE'S AHEOT THAT - SHE'S ARGUING. - ONE OF THE POINTS IS THAT THESE - GUYS WERE TRIED BY A MILITARY - COURT,IL BYARY PROSECUTORS, - BY A JURY THEORETICALLY OFHEIR - PEERS OR HIGHER IN RANK. - BUT YOU THINK THAT THE PRESIDENT - DID THE RIGG THING MAK THIS - PARDON. - GIVE ME THE ARGUMENT THERE. - >> ABSOLUTELY. - THE PRESIDENT STEPPED IN. - IT'S NOT ABOUT THE COMMANDS. - 'S WHAT HAPPENS AFTER THAT - CALL IS MADE AND IT'S ABOUT THE - INDIVIDUAL EATS RIGHTS -- - INDIVIDUAL'S RIGHTS. - WE'VE SEEN ACROSS THE BOARD - PROSECUTORIAL MISCONDUCT. - WE'VE SEEN INVESTIGATO INVESTIG, - UNLAWFUL COMMAND INFLUENCE. - WE CAN GO INTO DETAIL -- - >> YOU BELIEVE IN ALL THREE OF - THOSE CASES, THOSE TYPE OFOF - NSES OCCURRED? - >> ABSOLUTELY. - WE CAN GO INTO DETAILS WITH - EVERY SINGLE ONE, WHERE WE'VE - SEEN EXCULPATORY INFORMATION

- THAT WAS NOT BROUGHT TO BEAR. - WE'VE SEEN LIES BEING TOLD BY - SENIOR OFFICERS TO PROTECT THERC - TION OF THE INSTITUTION - AND ALSO PERHAPS TO PROTECT - THEIR OWN CAREERS WHERE YOU'VE - HAD APPEALS WHICH SHOULD BE - IDENTIFYING ALL THESE - WRONGDOINGS THAT WERE NOT EVEN - ALLOWETO GO FORWARD. - BIOMETRIC EVIDENCE PROVED THAT - THE SO-CALLED CIVILIA THAT - WE ORDERED TO BE KILL BY - LAWRENCE WERE NOT CIVILIANS. - THESE WERE ENEMY COMBATANTS. - WHEN BROUGHT TO THE APPLS - COURT, THEY SAY THEY WOULD NOT - DIVE INTO THE ABYSS OF - BIOMETRICS, WHICH IS BIZARRE. - THIS IS HOW WE SOLVE CASES WITH - D.N.A. AND SKIN CELLS,OMG - OFF OF IMPROVISED EXPLOSIVE - VICE'S THAT HAVE KILLED - AMERICANS. - SAME IN GOLDSTEIN'S CASE WHERE - HE AMBUS AND KILLED AN ENEMY - COMBATANT. - NEXT THING YOU KNOW, HE'S BEING - BROUGHT UP ON MURDER CHARGES. - IN THE INVESTIGATION, THEY FOU - NO EVIDENCE TO SUPPORT THIS - ALLEGATION OTHER THAN MATT SAID - HE KILLED AN ENEMY COMBATANT,

- WHICH MANY OF US HAVE DONE. - THAT IS NOT A CRIME.TH - SO STILL DIDN'T LIKE IT, - THE RUMOR OF IT, THAT HE WASIN - TAOPENLY ABOUT THIS. - THEY STRIPPED HIM OF HIS ARMY - SPECIAL FORCES TAB, TOOK HIS - SILVER STAR AND HELD HIM FOR - NEARLY 10EARS. - THEY'VE HAD THIS OVER HIM AND - HIS FAMILY'S HEAD ANDLY - CONTINUOAID, HEY, WE'RE - GOING TO GET TO THIS AND THEY - KEPT BRINGING HIM ON. - >> RACHEL, I'D LIKE YOU TO - FOLLOW UP ON SOME OF THIS. - DAVID IS MAKING THE POINT THAT - IN EACH OF THESE CASES, THERE - WAS SERIOUS MISCONDUCT. - YOU WERE A JAG LAWYER. C - YOU PROSECUTES LIKE - THIS -- - >> I DEFENDED CASES LIKE THIS. - I WAS AN AELLATE DEFENSE - COUNSEL AS WELL. - MY HEART IS WITH THE DEFENSE BUT - MY HEART IS ALSO WITH THE RULE - OF LAW. - AND THE RULE OF LAW INVOLVES - PROCESS. - THERE ARE NUMEROUS APPELLATE - COTS ESTABLISH TO ENSURE THAT - LEGAL ERRORS, IF THEY DO OCCUR, - ARE REMEDIED. - TONIGHT LAWRENCE'S CASE - GARDING EXCULPATORY EVIDENCE - THAT WAS SUPPOSE WYITHHELD, IT

- DIDN'T MATTER WHO THOSE - INDIVIDUALS WERE. - THAT'S WHAT THE ARMY COURT OF - CRIMINAL APPEALS HRD. - THEY SAID THERE WAS OVERWHELMING - EVIDENCE THAT HE COMMITTED - MURDER, OBSTRUCTED JUSTICE AND - THREATENED INDIVIDUALS. - THOSE INDIVIDUALS THAT HE KILLEB - WERE FOU OVERWHELMING - EVIDENCE, BY THE TESTIMONY OF - HIS OWNTE SUBORDI TO HAVE - POSED ABSOLUTELY NO THREAT TO - HIS OR TO HISEAMMATES. - THEY WERE ON FOOT, WALKING BACK - TO THEIR MOTORCYCLES, AT THE - DIRECTION OF THE AFGHAN NATIONAL - ARMY, WHO COMMANDED THEM TO DO - SO. - YET LIEUTENANT LAWRENCE ORDERED - THEM TO BE MURDERED, DESPITE - THEIR LACK OF THREAT. - HE KNEW OF NO EVIDENCE AT THE - TIME THAT THEY WERE ANY TYPE OF - COMBATANT. - HE WAS ONLY GIVING THE ORDERS TO - ENSURE THAT HE PROTECTED HIS - TROOPS AGAINST THOSE WHO POSE - SOME TYPE OF IMMINENT THREAT. - ALL OF HIS TROOPS TESTIFIED VERY - IEARLY TO OTHER FELLOW MILITARY - MEMBERS THAT THOIVIDUALS - DID NOT POSE A THREAT AND THEY - WERE GUNNED DOWN. - AND EUTENANT LAWRENCE CREATED - FURTHER TALIBAN THREATS AND

- CREATED GREATER RISK FOR THE - AMERICANS THAT WERE HONORABLY - SERVING THERE. - YOU KNOW W - THE THIRD INDIVIDUAL THAT HE - TRIED TO MURDER ACTUALLY WOUND - UPHEN JOINING THE TALIBAN, - BECAUSE HE KNEW - AMERICANS WERE GOING TO GO AFTER - EVERY INNOCENT AFGHAN AS WELL, - LEAST ACCORDING TO LIEUTENANT - LAWRENCE. - >> AGAIN, I KNOW IT'S VERY - DIFFICULT AND OUR VIEWERS ARE - PROBABLY SEWHAT CONFUSED BY - THE AVALANCHE OF DETAILS. - I'D LIKE TO STEP BACK AND LOOK - AT A CRITICISM THAT SOME PEOPLE - HAVE MAD VETERANS PRIMARILY, - THAT IN PARDONINGEE THESE T - GENTLEMEN, AGAIN PUTTING ASIDE - THEY'VE BEEN ACCUSED OF, THAT - THIS GIVES FREE REIN TO T - OCCASIONAL BAD ACTOR OUT IN THE - WAR ZONE AND THAT THE RULES OF - WAR DON'TLY IF YOU CAN EXERT - ENOUGH POLITICAL PRESSURE AND - MAKE C YOURE GET THROWN OUT. - WHAT DO YOU MAKE OF THAT - CRITICISM? - >> WE'VE TALKED ABOUT IN THIS - SITUATION THAT LAWRENC KILLED - CIVILIANS. - THE BIOMETRICS PROVE THEY WER

- NOT CIVILIANS. - THE NEXT ARGUMENT IS HE DIDN'T - KNOW THAT. - BUT HE DID ACT WITHIN ACCORDANCE - TH THE RULES OF ENGAGE. - AND HE WAS FOUND NOT GUILT OF - VIOLATING THE RULES OF - ENGAGEMENT. - HIS PEERS FOUND THAT HE DID NOT - ACT INAPPROPRIATELY. - HE ACTED, AND ALL OF HIS - ALIVE - CAME HOME - >> I HEAR WHAT YOU'RE SAYING. - BUT WHAT ABOUT, THE CRITICISMAN - THAT VETERANS, PEOPLE WHO - HAVE SERVED IN IRAQ, - AFGHANISTAN, EARLIER COMBAT - MISSIONS, THAT THIS SENDS A - TERRIBLE MESSAGE, THAT THE RULES - OF WAR SOMETIMES ARE NOT GOING - TO APPLY? - >> NO. - THE MESSAGE IT SENDS IS THAT - WHEN YOU ACT IN COMBAT AND YOU - MAKE THE RIGHT DECISION, OR EVEN - OU WILL BE TREATED FAIRLYISION, - AND YOU WILL RECEIVE YOUR - RIGHTS. - AND THIS IS WHERE OURARRIORS, - THEY SWEAR TO SUPPORT AND DEFEND - OUR RIGHTS. - YET THEY DON'T GE THE S - PROTECTION THAT PERHAPS AN - INDIVIDUAL WHO WOULD GO INTO A - SCHOOL A GUN DOWN CHILDREN - WITH INTENT IS GETTING. - HERE WE'RE SEEING TIMEND TIME

- AGAIN, WHERE THESE WARRIORS ARE - BEING THROWN UNDER THE BUS FOR - POLITICAL REASONS. - WHAT'S INTERESTING, WE SAW, - RIGHT AFTER LAWRENCE'S CASE, A - PATROL OUTSIDE OF AFGHANISTAN, - THEY KNEW LAWRENCE G PUT AWAY - FOR MURDER AND A MOTORCYCLE CAME - TOWARDS THEIR PATROL. - THEY CHOSE NOT TO ENGAGE. - OUR WARRIORS SHOUL HAVE TO DEAD. - QUESTION WHETHER OR NOT THEY'RE - GOING TO GO TO LEAVENWORTH FOR - PULLING THE TRIGGER FOR DOING - THE RIGHT THING AT THE RIGHT - TIME. - >> I REALIZE THERE ARE SO MANY - COMPLICATED DETAILS. - I'M SORRY WE CAN'T GET INTO MORE - OF THESE HERE. TONIG - DAVID, RACHEL, THANK YOU BOTH - VERY MUCH FOR BEING HERE. - >> THANK YOU. - APPRECIATE IT. - >> THANK YOU SO MUCH. - ♪[MUSIC] - >> WE TURN NOW TO THE DEMOCRATIC - OVER THE WEEKEND, CANDIDATES - STILL TRYING TO BREAK THROUGH IN - THCROWDED FIELD HEADE WEST. - >> HELLO, NEVADA DEMOCRATS!

- >> AS IMPEACHMENT NEWS CONSUMESO - WASHINGTON, A OF FORCE BY - THE 2020 DEMOCRATIC CANDIDATES - IN NEVADA. - >> THIS IS A FIGHT TO END THAT - NATIONAL NIGHTMARE CALLED DONALM - TR - REPORTER: IN LAS VEGAS SUNDAY - NIGHT, 14 OF THE 2020 CANDIDATEP - MADE THEIRCH TO NEVADANS, - WHO WILL VOTE THIRD IN THE - PARTY'S NOMINATING CONTEST. - THE LINEUP INCLUDED FMER - MASSACHUSETTS GOVERNOR DEVAL - PATRICK, WHO ENTERED THE CROWDED - RACE JUST LAST WEEK. - >> WHEN WE GET THAT NOMINEE, - WE'RE ALL GONNA JOIN TOGETHER. - REPORTER: FORMER U.S. SENATE - LEADER, HARRY REID, STILL A - GIANT IN THE STATE'S POLITICS, - MADE AN APPEARANCE AND A CALL - FOR UNITY. - [CHANTING] - REPORTER: BUT BENEATH THE - SURFACE, THE STRUGGLE CONTINUED - OVER WHAT KIND OF DEMOCRATIC - NOMINEE SHOULD LEAD THE PARTY - NEXT. - >> THE RISK OF NOMINATING - SOMEONE WHO WOULDN'T BEAT TRUMP, - AS A NATIONND WORLD THAT OUR - CHILDREN AND GRANDKIDS WON'T - WANT TO LIVE IN.

- PORTER: OR A PROGRESS I HAVE - LIKE MASSACHUSETTS -- - PROGRESSIVE LIKE MASSACHUSETTS - SENATOR ELIZABETH WARREN, WHO - OFTEN WARNS AGAINST WHAT SHE - CALLS A SAFE CAMPAIGN. - >> WE'RE NOT GOING TO CHANGE IT - HERE BY A NIBBLE HERE AND THERE. - WE'RE GOING TO CHANGE IT WITH - HANGE.RUCTURAL - REPORTER: IT CAME A DAY AFTER - BARACK OBAMA AVAILED CRITICISM - OF THAT BIG STRUCTURAL CHANGE. - MR. OBAMA SAID, QUOTE, THIS IS - STILL A COUNTRY THAT IS LESS - REVOLUTIONARY THAN IT IS I - INTEREST IMPROVEMENT. - THE AVERAGE AMERICAN DOESN'TYO - THIN HAVE TO COMPLETELY - TEAR DOWN THE SYSTEM AND REMAKE - IT. - HE WARNED CANDIDATES TO, QUOTE, - PAY SOME ATTENTION TO WHERE - VOTERS ACTUALLY ARE AND TT, - QUOTE, WE ALSO HAVE TO BE ROOTED - IN REALITY. - I GOT SOMETHING IMPORTANT - REALLY WRONG. - REPORTER: MEANWHILE, ANOTHER - POTENTIAL LATE EDITION TO THE - DEMOCRATE, RAC MICHAEL - BLOOMBERG, APOLOGIZED FOR THE - STOP AND FRISK POLICING POLICY - HE LED WHILE IN NEW YORK.

- >> I SPOKE WITH MANY OF THE - ANOCENT PEOPLE AFFECTE - LISTENED TO THEIR FRUSTRATIONS - AND THEIR ANGER - REPORTER: THE POLICY GRANTING - POLICE BROAD AUTHORITY TO DETAIN - AND QUESTION PEOPLE OVERWHELMING - IMPACTED PEOPLE OFOLOR AND IS - LARGELY SEEN WITH NOT IN LINE - WITH THE DEMOCRATIC PARTY.RO - >> I WAS AND I'M SORRY. - REPORTER: TODAY BLOOMBERG PICKED - M A KEY ENDORSEMENT FROM - STEPHEN BENJAMINOR OF SOUTH - CAROLINA AND A BLACK POLITICIAN - WHO APPLAUDED BLOOMBERG'S - APOLOGY. - IS AMY WALTER AND HOST OF PUBLIC - RADIO'S POLITICS WITH AMY WALTER - AND TAMARA KEITH FROM NPR. - SHE COHOSTS THE NPR POLITICS - PODCAST. - WELCOME TO YOU BOT - WE HAVE SOME NEW POLL NUMBERS. - SHALL WE DIG IN? - LET'S GO TO IOWA FIRST. - TAKE A LOOK AT SOME OF THESE - NUMBERS. - THIS IS FROM A NEW POLL IN IOWA - FOR CNN AND THE DES MOINES - REGISTS. - LOOK WHO I AT THE TOP.

- PETE BUTTIGIEG LEADS WITH 25% OF - SUPPORT IN THE STATE. - THERE YOU SEE SENATORS WREN - AND BIDEN AND SANDERS. - THEN YOU'VE GOT THE REST OF THE - FIELD, BASICALLY EVERYONE ELSE - POLLING BELOW 10%. - THAT IS IN IOWA. - AMY, START US OFF HERE. - NG?WHAT'S HAPPE - >> WHAT IS HAPPENING HERE? - THAT 16-POINT SURGE?IT - >> PRETTY REMARKABLE, THAT - OF ALL THE CANDIDATES, THIS IS - THE ONE CANDIDATE WHO HAS GON - LITERALLY FROM ZERO TO THE LEAD, - PULLING SOMEWHERE AROUND 1% OR - 2%. - WHAT IS REMARKABLE ABOUT IOWA, - WE'VE HAD FOUR POLLS SINCE MARCH - FROM THE DES MOINES REGISTER. - AND WHILE IT'S VER VOLATILE - DEN --WE'VE HAD FOUR POLLS, THRE - DIFFERENT LEADERS. - IT'S BEEN OF THE POOL OF FOURLE - PE - HUGE FIELD BUT THE SAME FOUR - PEOPLE ARE MENTIONED AS EITHER - ONE, TWO, THREER FOURINCE - MARCH.

- WHAT WE'RE SEEING IS, YES, - THERE'S VOLATILITY HERE BUT IT'S - NOT, AT THIS POINT, OPENING A - LANE FOR SOMEBODY WHO IS NOT IN - THOSE TOP FOUR. - >> TAMARA, WHAT DO YOU SEE WHEN - YOU SEE THESE NUMBERS? - THE VOTERS, DOHEY WANT SOMEONE - WHO REFLECTS BACK THEIR VALUES, - SOMEONE WHO WIL BEAT DONALD - TRUMP? - WHAT DOES THIS SAY TO YOU? - >> PART OF WHAT THIS SAYS T ME - IS THAT PETE BUTTIGIEG HAS A - PRETTY STRONG GROUND GAME IN - IOWA. - AN IS A UNIQUE STATE. - IT HAS A CAUCUS SYSTEM. - HE RAISED A LOT OFONEY EARLIER - THIS YEAR. - AND HE SPENT IT. - HE'S INVESTING -- PUTTING - STANLEY CUSTAFFON THE GROUND IN. - HE JUST DID A BUS TOUR THROUGH - THE STATE. - ALL OF THOSE, LIKE BEING SOMEONE - WHO IS THE MAYOR OF A SMALLTY - AND HAVING TIME TO MEET A - BUNCH OF VOTERS.TH - CAN ACTUALLY MATTER IN A - STATE LIKE IOWA AND CAN BE - REFLECTED IN THIS POLL.ND - >>T CERTAINLY HELPED - ELIZABETH WARREN OVER THE COURSE - OF THE SUMMER WHEN PEOPLE SAID, - WHY IS SHE NOW MOVING AHEAD AND - SHE WAS IN A JUNE, SEPTEMBER

- POLL. - IT WAS THAT SHE HAD BEEN - BUILDING THIS GROUND GAME HERE. - WE SPENDING SO MUCH TIME ONY - IOWA? - [LAUTER] - >> IT HAS 45 DELEGT ES. - KNOW THAT REALLY, FOR THE - LAST 40 YEARS, WITH AN ASTERISK - ON 1992 -- AND I'M NOT GOING TO - GET INTO THE DETAILS, NOIME -- - THE DEMOCRATIC NOMINEE FOR - PRESIDENT HAS WON IOWA, - NEW HAMPSHIRE OR BOTH. - SO THOSE TWO STATES, AGAIN, FORT - THE L 40 YEARS HAVE TOLD US - WHO THE NOMINEE WILL BE, WHICH - IS WHY IOWA IS SO IMPORTANT.LS - IT SETS THE NARRATIVE. - EXPECTATIONS.HE MEDIA - REALLY FOR A GOOD -- OBVIOUSLY - FOR THE NEXT WEEK BEFORE WETO GT - NEW HAMPSHIRE. - BUT IT REALLY DOES WIN OVER THE - FIELD QUICKLY. - >> AS IOWA, THOUGH, I NOT - PERFECTLY REFLECTIVE OF THE - DEMOCRATIC PARTY OR AMERICA AS H - E. - THIS IS THE CRITICISM. - >> IOWA AND NEW HAMPSHIRE ARE - SUPER WHITE. - AND IT JUST IS WHAT IT IS.

- THEY'RE ALSO HIGHLY EDUCATED. - THERE ARE A LOT OF DEMOGRAPHICS - THAT MAKE IOWA AND NEW HAMPSHIRE - NOT YOUR STANDARD REFLECTION OF - THE BROADER DEMOCRATIC PARTY, - WHICH IS WHERE YOU GET TO SOUTH - CAROLINA, WHERE WE ALSO HAVE NEW - POLL ANDHERE PETE BUTTIGIE IS - IN FOURTH PLACE. - BUT LIKE BARELY REGISTERING. - >> YOU CAN TALK TO THESE NUMBERS - WHILE PEOPLE LOOK AT THEM AT - HOME. - THIS IS THE LATEST SOUTH - CAROLINA POLL FROM -- - >> AND PETE BUTTIGIEG KNO HE - HAS TROUBLE WITH - AFRICAN-AMERICAN VOTERS. - HE'S BEEN WORKING ON ITCH PRETTY - OST OF HIS CAMPAIGN SINCE - THE SUMMER. - BUT IT CONTINUES TO BE A - CHALLENGE.N - YOU SEE THAT POLLING IN SOUTH - CAROLINA. - ITLE ALSO NOT CAR HOW HE'S - DOING IN NEVADA, THE STATE THA - COMES AFTER THAT. - >> AND YOU MENTIONED TO OUR - PRODUCER EARLIER, BUTTIGIEG NOW - BEING ON TOP IN IOWA. - DOES THAT MAKE HIM MORE OF A - TARGET? - EEN,ERE'S WHAT WE'VE

- CEMBER THROUGH MARCH, IT WAS - BIDEN ON TOP IN IOWA. - SCRUTINY GETS ON TO BIDEN. - THEN IT MOVES OVER TON. WAR - SHE'S LEADING. - SCRUTINY ON WARREN AND HERRE - MEDIOR ALL PLAN. - SHE STARTS TO DIP. - NOW WE SEE BUTTIGIEG ON TOP. - REMEMBER, WE HAVE A DEBATE ON - WEDNESDAY AND I'M SURE HIS - FRIENDS AND COLLEAGUES ON THE - STAGE WITH HIM WILL HAVE A - COUPLE QUESTIONS FOR HIM TO - ANSWER. - >> THAT IS PREDICTION! - >> YOU DO BRING ME TO ELIZABETH - WARREN. - I WANT TO ASK YOU ABOUT SORT OF - ON EVOLUTION ON HER MEDICARE FOR - ALL PLAN. - THIS HAS BEEN SORT OF THE - DEFINING ISSUE FOR HER - CANDIDACY. - SHE SEEMS TO -- I DON'T WANT TO - SAY EVOLVED. - IT SHIFTED A LITTLE BIT. - SHE'S ROLLED OUT SORT OF A TIME - LINE FOROW SHE PLANS TO GET - THERE. - >> IT'S THAT WHOLE TRYING TO - HAVE CAKE AND EATING IT. - HOWEVER THE PHRASE GOES, WHICH - IS SHE'S BEEN GETTING A - TREMENDOUS AMOUNT OF CRITICISM. - EVEN FROM DEMOCRATS, FOR A PLAN - THAT WOULD KICK PEOPLE OFF OF - THEIR PRIVATE INSURANCE AND - INSTITUTE A MEDICARE FOR ALL, A - SINGLE PER SYSTEM. - WHAT SHE HAS OFFERED IS TO SAY, - WELL, OK, FOR THE FIRST TWO

- YEARS, I WILL BE ABLE TO PUSH - THROUGH A PUBLICPTION, WHICH - IS PEOPLE CAN STAY ON THEIR - IVATE INSURANCE OR BUY INTO A - MEDICARE SYSTEM, SIMILAR TO WHAT - TALKING ABOUT, AND MANY OTHERE - DEMOCRATS ARE TALKING ABOUT. - BUT THEN BY YEAR THREE AND FOUR, - ALLEO OF THOSEE WHO HAVE - GOTTEN IN THE PUBLIC OPTION ARE - GOING TO SAY, THIS IS SO GREAT. - I'M SAVING SO MUCH MONEY. - THE HEALTH CARE SYSTEM HAS BEEN - SO IREDIBLY ALTERED IN THE - THAT WE'RE GONNAO THENMPLEMENTED - MEDICARE FOR ALL. - >> BUT LET ME JUST SAY THAT I - HAVE COVERED PRESIDENTS. - AND THEIR THIRD YEARS AND FOURTH - YEARS TEND NOT TO BE WHEN THEY - PASS MOST OF THEIR MEANINGFUL - LEGISLATION. - >> RIGHT. - >> THAT'S WHY CANDIDATES ALWAYS - TALK ABOUT, ON DAYNE, OR THE - FIRST 100 DAYS. - THERE'S A REASON FOR THAT. - YOU KNOW,IDTERMS HAPPEN. - THINGS COME SCREECHING TO A - HALT - >> DOES THIS OPEN HER UP TO - HER LINE, LININ UP MORE WITHG - MODERATE CANDIDATES? - >> IT HAS OPENED HER UP TO

- CRITICISM FROM BOTH THE BERNIE - SANDERS SIDE OF THE WORLD AND - THE PETEUTTIGIEG SIDE OF THE - WORLD. - SHE'S GETTING IT FROM ALL - ANGLES, IN PART BECAUSE SHE - DECIDED TO GO OUT THERE AND SAYS - TH HAD A PLAN AND PUT IT - IN WRITING. - >> TIM, I WANT TO -- TAM, I WANT - TO GET YOUR TAKE. - I WAS ASKING YOU ABOUT THESE - THREE K SOUTHERN STATES IN - WHICH PRESIDENT TRUMP CAMPAIGD - VERY HEAVILY FORRN THE - GUORIAL CANDIDATES THERE. - LOUISIANA, MISSISSIPPI, - NTUCKY. - YOU SAID WATCHING THOSE RACES - WOULD PAINT A PICTURE, AT LEAST - GIVES AN INDICATION OFHAT'S - AHEAD. - WHAT DO WE NOW KNOW? - >> I'LL JUST SAY THAT PRESIDENT - TRUMP AT AALLY SAID YOU'VE GOT - TO GIVE ME A BIG WIN, PLEASE. - AND SAID THAT THE EYES OF - HISTORY WOULD BE WATCHING, THATL - PEOPLE S SEND A MENG -- A - MESSAGE TO WASHINGTON AND THE - DEMOCRATS IN WASHINGTON. - TWO OUT OF THREE OF THOSE ENDED - UP GOING TO THE DEMOCRAT. - HE WILL SAY THAT THE REPUBLICAN - IN KENTUCKY IS A GOOD GUY, BUT - DEEPLY UNPOPULAR. - HE WILL SAY, JOHN BEL EDWARDS

- IT WAS CLOSE, SUPER CLOSE. - THE REALITY IS THAT THE - E.ESIDENT COULDN'T GET THEM OVER - THE FINISH L - YOU KNOW, HE WENT AND DID A - BUNCH OF RALLIES, PUT AOT OF - POLITICAL OUT THERE TO -- - POLITICAHE CAPITAL OUT, TO - SAY I'M THE PRESIDENT, I CAN - DRAG THEM OVER THE FINISH LINE. - AND HEIDN'T DO I - >> IF I AM A DEMOCRAT IN THE - MORE MODERATE SIDE OF THE - EQUATION, I LOOKED AT THOSE AND - SAID WHAT THOSE TWO DEMOCRATS - DID, THE ONES WHO WON, THEY RAN - AS A CENTRIST. - THEY RAN ON -- BUILDING ON THE - AFFORDABLE CARE ACT, NOT FOR - MEDICARE FOR ALL. - THE MEDICAID EXPANSION IS VERY - POPULAR IN THOSE STATES. - IE, DEMOCRATS STAY TOWARD THE - AFFORDABLE CARE ACT AND NOT - MOVING TO FAR TO THE LEFT ON - HEALTH - >> AMY WALTER AND TAMARA KEITH, - ALWAYS GOOD TO SEE YOU GUYS! - THANK YOU.[M - ♪IC] - >> FINALLY TONIGHT THE - MYSTERIOUS MEETING OF LAND, SEA

- AND SKY THROUGH THE EYES OF 19TH - CENTURY AMERICAN ARTIST WINSLOW - HOMER. - ECIAL CORRESPONDENT JARED - BOWEN EXAMINES AN EXHIBIT. - IT'S PART OF OUR ONGOING SERIES - ON ARTS AND CULTURE, CANVAS. - >> MANY HE HEARD THE SIREN - CALL OF THE SEA. - FOR WINSLOW HOMER, IT WOULD - CHANGE HIS LIFE. - >> WE THINK OF HIM TODAY - PRINCIPALLY AS A MARINE PAINTER. - UNTIL AGE 33, THOUGH, HE HAD - NEVER SHOWN A MARINE PAINTING. - >> UNTIL THEN, HOMER HAD BEEN A - WHO-KNOWN ILLUSTRATOR - CAPTURED THE CIVIL WAR FROM THE - FRONT LINES. - HE WAS RAISED IN CAMBRIDGE, - MASSACHUSETTS, A WAS A NEW - YORKER BY THE TIME HE FOUND THE - SEA AS A PAINTER IN 1869. - HE WASHAED, SAYS CURATOR - BILL CROSS. - >> THE TIMES OF DAY, THE TIMES - OF TIDE, STORMS WASHING IN AND - WASHING OUT, THE MYSTERIOUS

- MEETING OF LAND, SEA AND SKY WAS - ALLURING TO HIM AS IT IS TO US. - >> WE'VE WITHIN ABLE TO ASSEMBL - 51 WORKS BY HOMER HERE AT THE - MUSEUM. - REPORTER: OLIVER BARKER IS THE - DIRECTOR OF THE MUSEUM IN - GLOUCESTER, WHERE HOMER AT THE - BEACH COMMEMORATES THE 1TH - ANNIVERSARY OF THE ARTIST AS A - MARINE PAINTER. - >> WE KNOW HE CAME HERE ON FOU - SEPARATE OCCASIONS. - AND SO IT WASN'T ACCIDENTAL. - REPORTER: HOMER INITIALL SOUGHT - OUT THE SEA UP AND DOWN THE EAST - COAST. - IN NEW JERSEY, HE FOUND HEAVILY - POPULATED BEACHES WITH CROWDS - AND WOOL BATHI COSTUMES LIKE - THIS ONE. - BUT AS HE MOVED NORTH, HOMER - FOUND VASTLY DIFFERENT VISTAS. - HE DISCOVERED INDUSTRY, THE - GLOUCESTER SHIPYARD AND THE - SOLITUDE OF ROCK-STREWN BEACHES. - >> HE WAS VERY INSPIRED BYHE - ORDINARY PEOPLE OF GLOUCESTER. - I THINK AS TIME WENT ON, HE

- STARTED TO SHOW SOME OF THE - BEAUTY OF THE SURROUNDING AREAS. - SUNSETS.E THESE GLORIOUS - REPORTER: THIS IS THE FIRST - MARINE PAINTING HOMER EVER - EXHIBITED. - INSPIRED BY SINGING BEACH IN - MANCHESTER. - IT WENT ON VIEW IN NEW YORK. - SAYS CURATOR BILL CROSS, THE - CRITICS HATED IT! - >> HE RECEIVED A STAIN BECAUSE - HE WAS AHEAD OF HIS TIME. - REPORTER: HOMER HAD EMBARKED ON - HIS MARINE PAINTING AFTER A - LENGTHY TRIP TO FRAPS -- FRANCE - ERE HE WAS EXPOSED TO ALL THAT - WAS NEW IN PAINTING, PHOTOGRAPHY - AND JAPANESE PRINTS, NONE OF - WHICH HAD TAKEN HOLD IN AMERICA. - >> HOMER WAS USING DIFFUSE - LIGHT, LITTLE NARRATIVEONTENT - AND THE CRITICS WANTED LESSSK - CHY PAINTINGS. - THEY WANTED A WORK THAT INCLUDED - FIGURES. - REPORTER: THE HOSTILE REVIEWS - CONTINUED WITH THESE TWO WORKS - CALLED LOW TIDE. - BUT HERE,NS HOMER'S RES WAS - EQUALLY HOSTILE AND PHYSICAL. - >> I KNOW THIS IS A TRICK - QUESTION, BUT ONE PAINTING OR

- TWO. - >> BOTH! - >> HOMER MADE HISOST AMBITIOUS - PAINTING BASED ON HIS VISITS TO - LONG BRAH, NEW JERSEY, IN - 1869. - AND EXHIBITED TO SCORN. - >> SCORN FROM THE CRITICS. - >> SCORN FROM THE CRITICS. - HE REMOVED THE PAINTING FROM THE - EXHIBITION BEFORE THE EXHIBITION - ENDED AND TOOK HIS OWN KNIFE TO - IT. - DISMEMBERED THE PAINTING. - AND TURNED IT INT TWO WORKS. - ONLY ONCE BEFORE IN U.S. HISTORY - HAVE THESE TWO PAINTINGS BEEN - BROUGHT TOGETHER IN THIS WAY. - >> PT OF THE BEAUTY OF HOMER'S - WORKS, THE LIGHT, THE GLINT OF - THE SEA AND EVEN AOT OF THE - LANDSCAPES ARE STILL AS THEY - WERE. - VING ON 10-POUND ISLAND IN - GLOUCESTER HARBOR, HOMER PAINTED - SOME 100 WATER COLORS OVER ONE - SUMMER. - TODAY HE'S KNOWNS ONE OF THE - BEST WATER CORISTS EVER. - BUT HE HAD A PROFOUND ROLE - MODEL.

- HIS MOTHER. - >> SHE EXHIBITED HER WATER - COLORS IN NEW YORK BEFORE HE - DID. - AND WHEN HE EXHIBITED HIS WATER - COLORS FOR THE FIRST TIME, SHE - WAS IN THE SAME EXHIBITIO - >> CROSS SAYS THE 11 YEARS OF - WORKS IN THESE GALLERIES ARE - PROCESS OF SELF-DISCOVERY, ONE - THAT WOULD RESULT IN THE MOST - SIGNIFICANT WOS OF HIS CAREER. - >> WHAT MAKES THEM THE GREATEST - WOASS? - >> HE DISCOVERING THESE - PLACES IN HIMLF THROUGH THE - APPLICATION OF THREE ESSENTI - LESSONS. - TRAVEL WIDELY, EXPERIMENT - BOLDLY, AND LOVE DEEPLY. - >> FOR THE PBS NEWSHOUR, I'M - JARED BOWEN IN GLOUCESTER, - MASSACHUSETTS. - ♪[MUSIC] - >> IN SEPTEMBER, THE TRUMP - ANINISTRATION PROPOSED

- ANNUAL REFUGEE CAP OF 18,000 - PEOPLE FOR THEEAR 202 DOWN - FROM THE LOW OF 30,000 REFUGEES - THIS YEAR. - BUT WHAT MAKES SOMEONE A REFUGEE - AND ANOTHER PERSON A MIGRANT? - TONIGHT, WRITER DINA OFFERS HERB - OPINION ONHAT IMPORTANT - DIFFERENCE. - >> IN 1989, WHEN I WAS 10, IAR - VED IN OKLAHOMA AS A - REFUGEE. - THREATENED WITH EXECUTION FOR - CONVERTING TO CHRISTIANITY. - SO WE WERE RECOGNIZED A - POLITICAL DISSIDENTS AND GRANTED - ASYLUM. - ACCORDING TO AMERICAN LAW, - REFUGEES ARE ENTITD TO ASYLUM - BECAUSE THEY'VE SUFFERED - RSECUTION AND FACE FUTURE - DANGER, WHEREAS ECONOMIC - MIGRANTS MUST PVE THEIR MERIT. - THE DIFFERENCE MAY SEEM OBVIOUS. - DANGER TO ONE'S LIFE. - BUT IN PRACTICE, IT'S ANYTHING - BUT. - WHEN YOU APPLY FORLU A - EITHER AT THE BORDER OR IN AN - EMBASSY, OFTEN BEFORE YOU'VE HAD - LEGAL ADVICE, YOU'RE GIVEN - WHAT CALLED A CREDIBLE FEAR - ASSESSMENT. - LET'S SAY YOU'RE FROM CENTRAL

- AMERICA AND, AGAIN, DEMAND -- A - GANG DEMANDED MONEY FROM YOU. - YOU REFUSED AND THEY THREATENED - TO KILL YOU. - NATURALLY, YOU FLED. - AT THE U.S. BORDER, THE OFFICER - WILL ASK FOR THE SPECIFIC REASON - THAT YOU REFUSED THE GANG. - THE TRUTH IS, THERE ARE MANY - REASONS YOU DIDN'T PAY. - YOU DON'T HAVE THE MONEY. - IT STINKS TO FACE EXTORTION - EVERY DAY. - BUT IF YOU HAPPEN TO SAY TO THE - OFFICER, BECAUSE I DIDN'T HAVE - THE MONEY, THEN YOU DON'T - QUALIFY FOR REFUGEE STATU - BUT IF INSTEAD YOU SAY, BECAUSE - I DON'T BELIEVE GANGS SHOULD BEN - RU MY COUNTRY, THAT WOULD - MAKE YOU A REFUGEE. - WHY? - BECAUSE YOU HAVE A WELL-FOUNDED - FEAR OF FUTURE PERSECUTION BASED - ON YOUR POLITICAL OPINION. - THAT THE COUNTRY SHOULDN'T BE - RUN BY GANGS.K - THBOUT THAT FOR A MINUTE. - IF YOU TESTIFY THAT THE GANG - SAID, WE'LL KILL YOU, YOU - CHEAPSKATE. - YOU'RE JUST A MIGRANT. - IF THEY SAID, WE'LL KILL YOU, - YOU TRAITOR, YOU'RE A REFUGEE. - SES ARBITRARY, DOESN IT? - TO HANG AN ENTIRE PERSON'S FATE - ON THE GANGSTER'S INSULT OF

- CHOICE. F - I COME FROMILY OF DOCTORS - AND SCHOLARS. - WHEN WE HAD OUR ASYLUM - INTERVIEW, WE KNEW THAT OUR - CHRISTIANITY WAS THE CENTRAL. - QUESTI - IF MY MOTHER HAD BEEN LESS - EDUCATED ABOUT WHAT SHE - SHOULDN'T SAY, SHE MIGHT HAVE - WENT ABOUT HER MARRIAGE OR A - LACK OF MONEY AFTER W ESCAPED - IRAN. - IF SHE HAD, WOULD OUR ASYLUM - VE BEEN DENIED? - WOULD I BE A WRITER NOW, OR ATR - FRED HOUSEWIFE, FORCED TO - LIVE UNDER A HEAD SCARF? - I LIKE TO BELIEVE THAT WOULD - HAVE BEEN A WASTE. - HOW MEANINGFUL IS THE - DISTINCTION BETWEEN MIGRANT AND - REFUGEE?Y - IS THIS REA A USEFUL WAY TO - DECIDE HOW MUCH PEOPLE HAVE - SUFFERED AND WHAT CE AND - PROTECTION WE OWE TO OUR FELLOW - MAN? - OAND HOW EXACTLY D YOU DEFINE A - LIFE IN DANGER? - IF A LIFE IS SURE TO BE WASTED - IN POVERTY, WITHOUT EDUCATION, - OPPORTUNITY OR PURPOSE, ISN'T - THAT A KIND OF DANGER TOO? - >> AND THAT IS THE NEWSHOUR FOR - TONIGHT. - I'M AMNA NAWAZ.

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- ♪ - ♪ - -Today on "Cook's Country," - Christie and Bridget - reveal the secrets to perfect - Double-Crust Chicken Pot Pie. - Jack challenges Julia - to a tasting of peanut butter. - And Ashley makes a classic - version of cowboy cookies. - That's all right here - on "Cook's Country."