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<v Announcer>The New Tech Times, a video magazine for the electronic age. <v Announcer>In this edition, computer's console couples creating a new twist in therapy. <v Announcer>Also, ?micros? debut on Broadway in Cats and Sunday in the park with George. <v Announcer>Later, in Napa Valley. Chips turn grapes to wine. <v Announcer>And Chicago's Second City irreverently looks at living in the computer age. <v Announcer>All this and more in this edition of The New Tech Times. <v Announcer>[music plays] <v Announcer>The New York Times is brought to you through a grant from Wausau Insurance Companies. <v Announcer>Times change. Wausau works. <v Announcer>And by the collective voice of the Consumer Electronics Industry, C.E.G. <v Announcer>the Consumer Electronics Group an Electronic Industries Association. <v Announcer>[theme song plays] <v Mort Crim>Hello, I'm Mort Crim. Welcome to this edition of The New Tech Times.

<v Mort Crim>This week, we'll explore the computer from a number of perspectives through the eyes of <v Mort Crim>wine makers in Napa Valley, in the satire of Chicago's Second City comedy troupe, and <v Mort Crim>by way of the Broadway stage. <v Mort Crim>We'll also explore some interesting gadgetry we found at the Summer Consumer Electronics <v Mort Crim>Show. We begin this week's trip through the New Tech Times with a look at the computer as <v Mort Crim>therapist. People in Minneapolis-St. <v Mort Crim>Paul aren't exactly lying down on the computer sofa just yet, but they are getting a <v Mort Crim>chance to try councelling microchip style. <v Mort Crim>Here's a report produced by Brett Johnson. <v Brett Johnson>What do you get when you cross a computer connected to a videotape machine and any two <v Brett Johnson>people who want to improve their relationship? <v Brett Johnson>M.A.G.G.I.E., Minnesota Automated Guided Interaction Enhancement. <v Brett Johnson>M.A.G.G.I.E. is the brainchild of Jim Ayres. <v Brett Johnson>Jim was a psychologist in the University of Minnesota School of Public Health. <v Brett Johnson>He used M.A.G.G.I.E. as a research tool in his study of human interaction, something we <v Brett Johnson>know very little about. Now, Jim is taking M.A.G.G.I.E. <v Brett Johnson>out into the community to see how she can help other people work on their relationships.

<v Mother>Sometimes that is kind of scary for me because I see you growing up pretty fast. <v Mother>But, I think it's healthy as long as we can talk about it. <v Dr. Jim Ayres>The beauty of the technology in terms of learning and usefulness is that it's automated. <v Dr. Jim Ayres>So that means you don't have to have a a human facilitator in the room. <v Dr. Jim Ayres>And when you eliminate that third person, and replace it with a machine uh <v Dr. Jim Ayres>and give people control over that, they get a lot more comfortable <v Dr. Jim Ayres>because it means they can turn the button off. <v Dr. Jim Ayres>They can stop it if they don't like it. <v Mother>You ready? <v Child>Yep. <v Brett Johnson>Here's how, M.A.G.G.I.E.. Computer Counseling works. <v Brett Johnson>Instructions appear on the screen. <v Brett Johnson>Questions are asked about how you would characterize yourself and your relationship to <v Brett Johnson>your partner. You have a conversation which is recorded on videotape. <v Mother>I guess I get concerned when I think um that <v Mother>you'd be that sometimes you'd rather play with the machines rather than <v Mother>you know, be with friends or talk with people.

<v Child>Well, it goes half and half. Sometimes I might want to play a video game more. <v Recording>I know that we can talk about it. <v Brett Johnson>Your conversation is played back to you, at the same time, each of you is asked individualized questions <v Brett Johnson>about how you were feeling at that particular time. <v Brett Johnson>Then the computer tabulates the results and puts up graphic information comparing how <v Brett Johnson>anxious, attentive, nervous, or fatigued each of you felt. <v Brett Johnson>The computer can then take you back to any point in the tape so you can explore why it is <v Brett Johnson>that you were feeling the way you were. <v Dr. Jim Ayres>Up until now, when somebody wanted to improve their relationship, they would go to a <v Dr. Jim Ayres>class or they would observe an expert doing it. <v Dr. Jim Ayres>They'd observe other people and then they go ahead and try to do it, assuming <v Dr. Jim Ayres>that they were doing the right thing. <v Dr. Jim Ayres>And if something didn't work, they'd give up on it. <v Dr. Jim Ayres>What M.A.G.G.I.E. allows is for people to apply their learning in regards to relationship <v Dr. Jim Ayres>enhancement and to observe that learning and do it collaboratively. <v Patient>I guess that's part of the conflict now that coming when we both come home and we're both

<v Patient>tired and we both want to ?read the mail? and no one wants to make dinner. <v Brett Johnson>Most people who use M.A.G.G.I.E. have no computer experience, so it was critical that <v Brett Johnson>M.A.G.G.I.E. be user friendly. <v Dr. Stewart Haight>Probably the hardest part about using the system is having to type in your name. <v Dr. Stewart Haight>The idea is to get the computer to the point where it's a tool and not a technological <v Dr. Stewart Haight>instrument that you don't understand. <v Brett Johnson>Stuart and Jim are not advocating doing away with counselors or friends to help bring <v Brett Johnson>people closer together. But they do believe that there is a place for machines like <v Brett Johnson>M.A.G.G.I.E. to help facilitate human interaction. <v Dr. Jim Ayres>I've made a claim that uh people are more honest <v Dr. Jim Ayres>with machines than with people. <v Dr. Jim Ayres>And uh uh a machine doesn't get impatient. <v Dr. Jim Ayres>It doesn't get embarrassed. It's reliable. <v Dr. Jim Ayres>If it's not working, at least you know it. It might not work when you want it to, but at <v Dr. Jim Ayres>least you know it doesn't work. And most importantly, you can turn a machine off. <v Dr. Jim Ayres>And all of those things we can't predict about, about people.

<v Brett Johnson>Jim is also the first person to acknowledge that his machine has its limits. <v Brett Johnson>It's still up to you to act on what you learn about yourself from M.A.G.G.I.E.. <v Dr. Jim Ayres>Machine can't love, a machine can't experience courage. <v Dr. Jim Ayres>A machine can't reach out to another human being. <v Dr. Jim Ayres>And it's precisely those things that we're aiming at facilitating with this technology. <v Brett Johnson>Jim and Stewart claim they have only scratched the surface of M.A.G.G.I.E.'s <v Brett Johnson>applications. They plan to package and sell M.A.G.G.I.E. <v Brett Johnson>Systems to businesses, hospitals, and law schools. <v Brett Johnson>And ultimately, Jim hopes M.A.G.G.I.E. and future machines like her will help us gain a <v Brett Johnson>better understanding of our most common yet one of the least understood human <v Brett Johnson>experiences, face to face interaction. <v Mort Crim>If Jim Ayres and his colleagues are right, the computer may help us overcome problems in <v Mort Crim>personal relationships through M.A.G.G.I.E. <v Mort Crim>type counseling. These microchip therapists are springing up all over. <v Mort Crim>To find out more about computer therapy, get in touch with the mental health association <v Mort Crim>in your community. Well, a visit to Broadway might be therapeutic for those of us who

<v Mort Crim>want to escape to the world of fantasy. <v Mort Crim>The computer hasn't made it to the center stage yet, but it is getting a workout behind <v Mort Crim>the scenes as we see in this report produced by Anna Ray Jones. <v Anna Ray Jones>[music plays] There's a bright new star on Broadway. <v Anna Ray Jones>Not the kind in red shoes and spangled tights. <v Anna Ray Jones>This is one performer the audience never sees. <v Anna Ray Jones>The backstage computer. <v Anna Ray Jones>Computers have come to Broadway not only to transform the art of lighting, but also to <v Anna Ray Jones>create many special effects that are fast becoming part of the set designers' repertoire, <v Anna Ray Jones>such as the flying scenery and paintings that come to life in the latest Stephen Sondheim <v Anna Ray Jones>musical, Sunday in the Park with George. <v Actor>Composition. Balance. Light and harmony. <v Anna Ray Jones>[welding] [hammering] Much of the magic behind this computerized scenery starts life in

<v Anna Ray Jones>the set building shop of Pete Fella associates in New York. <v Pete Fella Jr.>On Sunday in the Park with George, uh the <v Pete Fella Jr.>it was not a matter of uh space in the theater. <v Pete Fella Jr.>Our problems mainly had to do with uh the coordination <v Pete Fella Jr.>of the moving scenery. <v Actor>More ?inaudible?. More trees. <v Pete Fella Jr.>There were so many things moving at once. <v Pete Fella Jr.>The traveling trees and wagons moving on and the pop ups coming in, <v Pete Fella Jr.>that uh the only way to do it repeatedly, night after night was to <v Pete Fella Jr.>put everything on computers. <v Speaker>[laughing] [singing] [audience laughs and claps] <v Anna Ray Jones>For Broadway producer and president of the Schubert organization, Bernard Jacobs, <v Anna Ray Jones>the computers and special effects are here to stay. <v Bernard Jacobs>As automation and as technology develops, that the theater is going

<v Bernard Jacobs>to keep pace with that development. <v Bernard Jacobs>I mean, what you're seeing now is you're seeing the theater uh to some <v Bernard Jacobs>extent copy and to some extent enhance the things that have been done <v Bernard Jacobs>in motion picture such as Star Treks and Close Encounters of the Third <v Bernard Jacobs>Kind and things of that sort. <v "Cats" Cast>[music plays] [singing] <v Bernard Jacobs>We are much more efficient about it. The effects are much more dramatic and lighting has <v Bernard Jacobs>really become an art form, which was not, say, 30 or 35 years ago. <v Bernard Jacobs>Usually the lighting design was also the scenic design. <v Bernard Jacobs>The lighting was uh was just something that uh was used to light <v Bernard Jacobs>up the stage rather than create magic on the stage. <v "Cats" Cast>[singing] <v Bernard Jacobs>You're going to see more and more special effects. ?You're? uh some people will say that

<v Bernard Jacobs>that's because you're compensating for the fact the creative people can't write as well <v Bernard Jacobs>as they used to. I don't believe that to be true at all. <v Bernard Jacobs>I think that we we have the means to do things we never were <v Bernard Jacobs>able to do before. <v "Cats" Cast>[singing] <v Anna Ray Jones>Cats, another major Broadway hit, has all its lighting effects governed by the <v Anna Ray Jones>?inaudible? computerized light boards. <v Anna Ray Jones>The effects for the show's two acts are programed by taped cassettes that contain <v Anna Ray Jones>digital signals and pre coded commands for every scene. <v Anna Ray Jones>Large mobile pieces of the set are activated by advanced hydraulic systems <v Anna Ray Jones>and given some manual assistance by stage mechanic John Schwanke. <v John Schwanke>When you see the tire effect at the end of cats, you'll see this tire going <v John Schwanke>up in the air and hopefully you're not going to see any of the things that make it work <v John Schwanke>because that's all magic. <v John Schwanke>And in a lot of cases, people come to see the spectacle.

<v John Schwanke>They come to see the lights. They come to see the costumes, the scenery. <v John Schwanke>Um and they try to top each other. <v John Schwanke>And each designer tries to do something different and unto himself. <v "Cats" Cast>[singing] <v John Schwanke>It's a craft, it's an art. All the people are specialists that that work in this uh <v John Schwanke>this end of the business and everything is fabricated from scratch. <v John Schwanke>It's it's new. It's hopefully never been done before. <v John Schwanke>And they uh have got something that they've created that is unusual and it will <v John Schwanke>bring in people to sell tickets. <v John Schwanke>[music playing] <v Anna Ray Jones>This spectacular finale of Cats is only the beginning of what computers <v Anna Ray Jones>can do for Broadway theater. <v Anna Ray Jones>It's predicted that before long, computers will control sound effects, move all <v Anna Ray Jones>scenery and project deceptively three dimensional images onto the stage.

<v Anna Ray Jones>Computers, take a bow. <v Mort Crim>If you have story, ideas, suggestions or comments about The New Tech Times, get in touch <v Mort Crim>with us electronically through The Source, log on with public 125 direct. <v Mort Crim>On CompuServe, use go N.T.T. <v Mort Crim>or contact us directly through The New Tech Times Electronic Bulletin Board by dialing 6 <v Mort Crim>0 8 2 6 3 2 7 8 4. <v Mort Crim>After that dazzling example of computer wizardry, it's hard to imagine where the folks on <v Mort Crim>Broadway will go next. The microchip certainly has made an impact in Manhattan's <v Mort Crim>Theater District. It's also making an impact in the Napa Valley of California, just

<v Mort Crim>a short distance from Silicon Valley. <v Mort Crim>Where winemakers and wine experts are taking advantage of the chip to make better wine. <v Mort Crim>Here's Tom Tomaszewski's report. [music plays] <v Tom Tomaszewski>For those who enjoy and understand their language, wines write histories, <v Tom Tomaszewski>volumes about winemakers and methods, grape growing regions and climates. <v Tom Tomaszewski>Wine lovers comb this vineyard of variables in their search for the right blend. <v Tom Tomaszewski>Gail Keller and Alex Dierkhising consult their own computer connoisseur, <v Tom Tomaszewski>a silicon sipper of sorts for this information. <v Alex Dierkhising>Before the computer, there's just so much that you can handle. <v Alex Dierkhising>3 years ago, there were maybe 200 wineries in California producing Cabernet or maybe 5 <v Alex Dierkhising>years ago, and now there's well over 500. <v Alex Dierkhising>And of those 500, most of them usually make at least 2 different cabarets <v Alex Dierkhising>or a winery like Phelps to make 5 different Cabernets. <v Alex Dierkhising>Times 500, 2,500 times one year, times 5 vintages, thousands of wines.

<v Gail Keller>So this will be sort of the master of the house, all the <v Gail Keller>I.D. numbers, location numbers, etc. <v Gail Keller>They call this information concoction of wines on chips, online <v Gail Keller>wine. <v Tom Tomaszewski>It's a bulletin board service centered in the heart of the Napa Valley. <v Tom Tomaszewski>This service is part of their wine bar business in Calistoga, California. <v Tom Tomaszewski>The computer offers access to their expertise for a wider audience of wine <v Tom Tomaszewski>lovers. <v Gail Keller>I don't know how we manged to do this before. <v Gail Keller>[laughing] I honestly don't. It's so much easier now and it's still a lot of work. [music plays] <v Tom Tomaszewski>Urging the first buds on young spring vines into bottled, capped, and <v Tom Tomaszewski>labled wines is a delicate, painstaking process. <v Tom Tomaszewski>Tens of thousands of gallons of wine are produced through an inexact

<v Tom Tomaszewski>organic fermentation process laced with the almost uncontrollable <v Tom Tomaszewski>variables of time, temperature and sugar content. <v Pete Mondavi Jr.>If you go a little bit too dry on one tank, you ?stop? <v Pete Mondavi Jr.>For another tank a little bit sweeter and you blend them out so you have your proper <v Pete Mondavi Jr.>sugar content. We like to make all the tanks the exact sugar content. <v Tom Tomaszewski>There are probes in 77 new wine tanks monitoring the sugar and temperature <v Tom Tomaszewski>levels, critical to keeping tabs on the wines' fermentation. <v Tom Tomaszewski>Yeast turns the sugar juice into alcohol, producing heat. <v Tom Tomaszewski>A fiber optic system links the probes with this Hewlett-Packard 1000. <v Pete Mondavi Jr.>The reason we monitor it so carefully and record it so carefully is that many of <v Pete Mondavi Jr.>the flavors developed in wines, especially in the whites, <v Pete Mondavi Jr.>'cause they're very light and fruity, are really a function of the temperature. <v Tom Tomaszewski>And those graphs and charts do what? <v Pete Mondavi Jr.>What they do is they indicate to uh ?system? <v Pete Mondavi Jr.>winemakers, to myself, and my father, and other lab techs, the progress

<v Pete Mondavi Jr.>of it. <v Pete Mondavi Sr.>This speeds up the uh the information that you need and of course, that's <v Pete Mondavi Sr.>just information. And then you have to make your decision which is ?going to? <v Pete Mondavi Sr.>organoleptically as far as the quality of the wine. <v Tom Tomaszewski>Organoleptic is the unromantic word for the romantic component in wine making. <v Tom Tomaszewski>The part dependent on the senses, especially those senses of taste and smel. <v Gail Keller>Mm, it's really full. <v Alex Dierkhising>Still bit ?tannic?. <v Gail Keller> Definitely, definitely a lot of tannin in the wine. <v Gail Keller>It should hold up really nicely, though. It's a good healthy young wine. <v Tom Tomaszewski>Each bottle says Master Winemaker Pete Mondavi Senior carries a bit of that <v Tom Tomaszewski>winemaker's character inside. <v Pete Mondavi Sr.>So ?is? a palate and it's uh and it's what you like and what you think <v Pete Mondavi Sr.>makes good, good balanced wine. <v Alex Dierkhising>It's so complex that, you know, they need all that help, but still it's still an art, you <v Alex Dierkhising>know. But it's more than just a little old winemaker, they're <v Alex Dierkhising>trying to make wine. <v Tom Tomaszewski>Wines can write a new chapter in that special language they speak to wine lovers, <v Tom Tomaszewski>histories of wine makers and methods, grape growing regions and climates, and

<v Tom Tomaszewski>now computers. Refining the inexact science, mixing wine <v Tom Tomaszewski>with chips. [music plays] <v Mort Crim>Winemaking is an art form that spans the centuries, even though the microcomputer <v Mort Crim>is lending a hand. It's still nice to know that a longtime winemaker such as Pete Mondavi <v Mort Crim>Senior, is passing his knowledge along. <v Mort Crim>We continue our travels this week with a stop in Chicago, where we found some interesting <v Mort Crim>new mini electronic gadgets at the Consumer Electronics Show. <v Mort Crim>They weren't headlining at the summer exhibition, but were tucked away in the recesses of <v Mort Crim>the CES showplace. <v Mort Crim>[music plays] Coming back for another Consumer Electronics Show can mean success in this <v Mort Crim>business. For O.W.I. of Japan, a second appearance at CES brought <v Mort Crim>the showing of an expanded line of move it robot toys.

<v Mort Crim>These popular do-it-yourself electronic kids turn into real life automatons. <v Mort Crim>[beeping] [music plays] <v Mort Crim>Fashionably from Taiwan and now available at a stereo store near you comes <v Mort Crim>a redesigned boombox that you wear. <v Speaker>This ?inaudible? is a sound jacket. It's a stereo. Put a speaker here, there is a <v Speaker>?inaudible?. My ?full name? is ?inaudible?. <v Speaker>My company name's ?inaudible?, made in Taiwan. <v Speaker>[music plays]. <v Mort Crim>Wear this AM radio from Sports Bug in your ear. <v Mort Crim>[beeps]. <v Mort Crim>This gadget is worn behind <v Mort Crim>your ear. <v Woman>The Sleeper Beeper is a safety warning device. <v Woman>It makes the driver alert. You turn it on right here. <v Woman>It weighs less than an ounce and it fits very comfortably behind your

<v Woman>ear. <v Woman>You're driving down the road and you begin to fall asleep. <v Woman>Your head tilts forward and it beeps and wakes you up. <v Woman>[music plays] <v Speaker>Dial. [phone dials] <v Mort Crim>Here's the first telephone you actually talk back to. <v Speaker>?Weather?. Dial. <v Mort Crim>The Command Dialer <v Mort Crim>is a voice recognition telephone. <v Speaker>If you watch Star Trek and where Mr. Spock said computer and the computer says yes, <v Speaker>and he went on and gave it commands, this is what ultimately <v Speaker>will come about. We're at the beginning of it now with with something like this. <v Mort Crim>If Dr. McCoy puts Spock on a diet, he'd probably prescribe something like this <v Mort Crim>personal activity computer. <v Speaker>It has a small device called an accelerometer built into it that actually measures

<v Speaker>the activity you have relative to the body and relative to the earth. <v Speaker>[music plays] <v Mort Crim>The products you've just seen may never make it to the main aisles of the CES or even to <v Mort Crim>the top 10 product list. <v Mort Crim>But they do offer a look at the diverse number of products to be found at the twice <v Mort Crim>yearly Consumer Electronics Bonanza. Another bonanza tucked away <v Mort Crim>in Chicago, is the Second City comedy troupe. <v Mort Crim>It's become famous for satire since the early 70s. <v Mort Crim>Carol Larson paid a visit to the folks at Second City during the Consumer Electronics <v Mort Crim>Show. She watched as they premiered Up Your Computer. <v Mort Crim>Here's her report. <v Actor>My problems basic. I started with my son. <v Actor>See, I'd bought him the ?inaudible? <v Actor>Computer.

<v Actor>Oh, you found one that worked? <v Actor>Yeah. [audience laughs] <v Actor>Uh well, then a, well he moved up to the ?inaudible? ?vision?, you know, he's up there in <v Actor>his room, just completely remote for me. <v Actor>He's joined a hacker's club. <v Actor>He he broke into Continental Bank. <v Actor>What a mistake. <v Carol Larson>A meeting of Computer-holics Anonymous. <v Carol Larson>A pretty effective bit of social satire because of course, satire is only <v Carol Larson>effective when it contains more than a bite of truth. <v Actress>Fit in with the other kids, you know. <v Actor>Yeah, my son he's like that. <v Actress>Yes! Exactly. I used to go down to the video game arcade just to feel like one of the <v Actress>gang. You know, I didn't even like the games. <v Actress>But-. <v Actor>No one does. <v Actor>They weren't very good. <v Actress>There was this one day I I'd tried one of them and all of a sudden I got <v Actress>this surge of power, you know? <v Actor>It gets that way when you're conquering the universe. <v Actress>Yeah. Just to have my hand on that joystick. <v Actress>And then all of the boys started asking me out. <v Actress>Oh, oh! But then I got off of that crazy merry go round and it's been

<v Actress>194 days for me. [clapping] <v Carol Larson>Think Computer-holics is a pretty absurd idea? <v Carol Larson>Well, good satire starts with a realistic idea and then expands on that <v Carol Larson>to a point of what appears to be absurd. <v Carol Larson>And with the way we've been obsessed with technology nowadays, that is a pretty short <v Carol Larson>trip. You see, we've never been able to look at machines as the cold, lifeless <v Carol Larson>tools they're supposed to be. <v Carol Larson>We give cute names to our cars, to airplanes, and to boats. <v Carol Larson>We assign to them human characteristics like stubborn, lazy, <v Carol Larson>or friendly. We are not too far from the point of believing that Lisa <v Carol Larson>Macintosh and Adam may have lives and love affairs of their own. <v Actor>Underneath all that hardware, I'll bet you there's some soft, compatible software. <v Actor>You know, I can tell you have such a nice monitor. <v Actor>Did you know that? <v Actress>Garbage in, garbage out.

<v Actor>C'mon, I mean it. <v Actress>Don't bug me. <v Actor>Hey, am I getting to you? <v Actress>I don't copy. <v Actor>If I find the right code, will you talk to me? <v Actress>Look, I'm not the kind of computer that outputs, if that's what you compute. <v Actor>Look, I just want to exchange a little data with you, that's all. <v Actress>I don't exchange data with an overgrown pocket calculator. <v Actor>Well, you glitch. [audience laughs] <v Actor>[singing] Well, I thought our ?inaudible? was something sacred. <v Actor>'Til I caught her sharing down time to <v Actor>my face, with sales- <v Carol Larson>A two timing terminal. It wouldn't be far from absurd to some day hear are misplaced <v Carol Larson>affections for the computer turn up in a mournful country ballad. <v Actor>[singing] Oh, where is my computer respond to my I.D.? <v Actor>I was first in, first out 'til my sweetie said goodbye to me. <v Actor>Can't pull myself up by my bootstraps, no one to feed and ?load?, so don't go <v Actor>bite the hand that feeds you as you log on down the road.

<v Carol Larson>Pretty heart rendering stuff, but the benefit of satire without getting too philosophical <v Carol Larson>about all of this. The benefit has always been to keep us from taking ourselves too <v Carol Larson>seriously, and we do tend to be very serious and obsessive and emotional <v Carol Larson>about technology. One might almost think we were to the point of making <v Carol Larson>it our religion. <v Choir>[singing] Open access ?inaudible?, we're perfect, ?pace? maker, the most amazing thing, ?inaudible? speller, ?inaudible? Frogger, ?inaudible?, smart modem, ?inaudible? <v Mort Crim>Second City's Up Your Computer, by the way, was a special performance for the folks at <v Mort Crim>CES, presented by Family Computing Magazine. <v Mort Crim>From microchip therapy and high tech special effects to silicon winemaking and Second <v Mort Crim>City satire. This week's reports continue to show the many ways technology

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