¡Colores!; 1926; Painter Eli Levin, “Art Farm,” Playwright Terrance McNally, Child Prodigy Rachel Barton
 
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THIS TIME, ON COLORES!           PAINTER ELI LEVIN KEEPS          THE TRADITION OF SOCIAL          REALISM ALIVE.                   I want to set up a problem.      It's not just yes and no,        we can solve that, it's a mess   that I am trying to expose.      FARMS FEED OUR BODIES AND SOME   SAY ART FEEDS THE SOUL.          AND IN NEBRASKA, AN ARTISTS'     RESIDENCY PROGRAM CALLED ART     FARM IS TAKING CARE OF BOTH.     It's the experience that         you can try something, you can   experiment and not worry         about failing.                   TONY AND EMMY WINNING            PLAYWRIGHT, TERRANCE MCNALLY,    USES HIS ART TO EFFECT CHANGE    .                                We knew it touched on social     issues, but we just tried        to make it a good show that      would keep an audience           entertained and moved            and thoughtful for close         to three hours.                  CONSIDERED A CHILD PRODIGY       AND CURRENTLY TOURING            WORLDWIDE, RACHEL BARTON IS      FOLLOWING HER DREAMS.           
Playing the violin was what      I was meant to do                with my life. It's my calling.   It's who I am as a person.       IT'S ALL AHEAD ON COLORES!       ELI LEVIN WRESTLES               WITH SOCIETAL PROBLEMS           THROUGH HIS PAINTINGS.           >> ELI LEVIN: I never doubted    we kind of loosely call          humanism, about peopleand        ideals and a better life.        Realism is a very vague term.    At one point, I was gonna have   a show called Social Realism     with some other artists          and they said, we have tocall   
it 'critical realism', which     is used in Europe. So I fought   tooth and nail and said, Come    on, social realists, that's      the communist's way              and they didn't go for it.       But socialist realists are       more in the cities showing       the problem of city life, poor   people, that's more my type      of thing. Like these bar         paintings; they may not seem     obviously social realist         because they're not workers      and they're not about society    in an active sense, like         demonstrations and all those     things which I also paint.       But, the bar is sort             of a contemporary version        of what happened to social       realism and it's a tragic side   of our society. There's sort     of a sub strand of it that was   with all the competition         and I always identified         
with that because my kind        of art was also left behind.     So I would say, this is,         you know, we're in the bar,      at least they're not bothering   us, we're having a good time     getting drunk and we're          avoiding all the great           American society and all         the pressures. Well,             of course, it's kind             of a terrible way to live when   I stopped drinking forty years   ago, but I still feel sorry      for these people in bars who     lead this dark life              without realizing anything.      It'salso great theater           because people in bars will do   crazy things and they're         on stage. Each part              of the series I did              in the last five years of Old    to show the village life,        theold Santa Fe life. When      
I came here, it was like that    right here in Santa Fe when      I moved in the 60s. And I have   to say I don't really have       the right to paint Spanish       Americans because they have      to paint themselves, you know,   there's a whole movement. It's   not a great thing to paint       other groups inyour own group,   but it interests me. I'm         because I've had a long career   and I've survived. The problem   for the artist is a social       economic problem. Social         realism is dead in the water,    in a sense; there are            no longer movements of social    realism that I know of,          I don'tthink there is. But I'm   realist trying to keep up        the tradition of theseguys      
from the depression.             I overcame it in myself          keep doing the social realism    and enjoying it. Most            of my teachers, everyone,        changed their styles; half       of them gave up. Even when       I run a drawing group            or an etching group, I am more   old fashion than anybody that    comes. If I really tell them     the limits of my thought,        they can't relate to them.       They're too modern already.      I think, by now, it keeps me     alive just selfishly. I hate     to say I'm one of those          selfperpetuating, egocentric     artists who paints               for himself, but there's a lot   with a brilliant idea           
for a painting in my sleep       last year. I got the phrase      in my head, praise God, eat      (bleep), and die. So it's        a pretty powerful painting.      Everyone says, Oh my God!        Who's gonna hang that            painting? That was one           the rich guys at the top,        the 1%, with prisons behind      them and jet planes dropping     bombs. Then in the middle,       I had the middle class trying    to maintain some kind            of dignity and climbing all      over each other trying to get    a little higher then, poor       people on the bottom. I had      all kinds of variations          of the three tear, some          of them very funny, others not   so funny. Ironically, social     realist is trying                to communicate with people.      And I spent half my time         repainting my paintings. I've    repainted at least half          of my paintings in the last      few years. It's very difficult   to do a political painting      
or a social realist painting.    Problems are much more           complicated now and I can't      figure out any clear answers.    What's real? In my feeling,      unphilosophically speaking,      what they used to call           humanism. Feelings, dignity,     nature. Nothing too              complicated, pressures; I like   the simple pleasures.            In the atmosphere of art         in America, I've met             a tremendous style. It's like    Ibsen writing plays. I want      to set up a problem. It's not    justyes and no, we can solve     that. It's a mess that I'm       trying to expose. I've thought   of every subjectI could think   
of that's not a complicated      political thing that I would     have to be an expert             in and read the newspaper        everyday. But, if there's any    social problem that I can        spot, I'll try and paint         something about it. ut people    and ideals and a better life.    Realism is a very vague term.    At one point, I was gonna        havea show called Social         Realism with some other          artists and they didn't like     the term and they said,          we have to call it 'critical     realism', which is used          in Europe. So I fought tooth     and nail and said, Come on,      social realists, that's          the communist's way              and they didn't go for it.       But socialist realists are       more in the cities showing       the problem of city life, poor   people, that's more my type      of thing. Like these bar         paintings; they may not seem     obviously social realist         because they're not workers      and they're not about society    in an active sense, like         demonstrations and all those     things which I also paint.       But, the bar is sort             of a contemporary version        of what happened to social       realism and it's a tragic side   of our society. There's sort     of a sub strand of it that was   left behind that can't keep up   with all the competition         and I always identified          with that because my kind        of art was also left behind.     So I would say, this is,         you know, we're in the bar,      at least they're not bothering   us, we're having a good time     getting drunk and we're          avoiding all the great           American society and all        
the pressures. Well,             of course, it's kind             of a terrible way to live when   I stopped drinking forty years   ago, but I still feel sorry      for these people in bars who     lead this dark life              for himself, but there's a lot   of truth in that. I came up      with a brilliant idea            for a painting in my sleep       last year. I got the phrase      in my head, praise God, eat      (bleep), and die. So it's        a pretty powerful painting.      Everyone says, Oh my God!        Who's gonna hang that            painting? That was one           of a series where I had          the rich guys at the top,        the 1%, with prisons behind      them and jet planes dropping     bombs. Then in the middle,       I had the middle class trying    to maintain some kind            of dignity and climbing all      over each other trying to get    a little higher then, poor       people on the bottom. I had      all kinds of variations          of the three tear, some          of them very funny, others not   so funny. Ironically, social     realist is trying                to communicate with people.      And I spent half my time         AN ART FARM IN NEBRASKA          PROVIDES A SUSTAINABLE WAY       FOR ARTISTS TO EXPLORE           THEIR WORK.                      >>NARRATOR: There are images     and sounds we usually            associate with life              in the heartland.....            ...But there are also....        >>ED DADEY: Hespo                looking overyour depme. enure     chostf ah                       land growing cornF1              ansoea. d ilth                   farmor o vitg                    artists spend their im           of ruralli. F1 >> DEYTh's sort   pocaayarts                       to go tghro.                     different from her usual         >>REBECCA JOHNSON: And there's   just something strange           and amazing about walking down   a dirt road andjust being able   to see for miles and knowing     that like you can walk           and walk all day, and you'll     beon that same dirt road         and it'll pretty much look       the same.                        (NAT SOUND - quiet ambiance)     (TRACK) 24yearold Amy            DiPlacido traveled 1600 miles    from Middleton, Massachusetts.   She found the pace of the farm   fueled her passion for linear    art.                            
>>AMY DI PLACIDO: It really      slows you down here. I think     that's really important          to learn too, especially         coming from the city and just    knowing like the hustle          and bustle it doesn'treally      matter.                          (TRACK) The geography also       inspired her artwork             of straight lines.               >>AMY DI PLACIDO: ...and         of cornfields and soybeans.      And you can see right            down,everything's placed         in a grid. So, I'm very          inspired by these man made       geographical lines               (NAT SOUND Sycamore. Lone mare   under the arched limb. Here      a list of yellow things.)        TRACK) For poet Meredith Clark   offered a new look at her view  
>>MEREDITH CLARK: I think it's   been a real life changing        experience in a lot of ways.     Learning an awful lot            about the way that I work. Ya    know I think a lot of people     make the mistake sometimes       of coming to a residency         assuming that they're going      to turn something out.           (TRACK) She also had to learn    the process of printing          her poetry...the old fashioned   way.                             >>MEREDITH CLARK: This has       probably taken me an hour        and a half to two hours.         And it's just six lines          (NAT SOUND - quiet ambiance)     (TRACK )The Art Farm has        
welcomed artists from 10         different countries. Space is    limited to fewer than two        dozen residencies a year.        And....in exchange for room      and board... the artisans help   work the farm. A current         project is restoring old barns   which see duty as studios        and living quarters.             (NAT SOUND - Tractor stopping)   (TRACK) On this day, an old      bathtub became a spa...of        sorts.                           >>AMY DI PLACIDO: And it gets    hot here during the day,         so we're going to fill it up     when we need to cool off. Jump   in the tub, go back              to our studio and work.          (NAT SOUND quiet ambiance        of wind in field)                (TRACK) The landscape has        become a repository of artwork   completed by                     previous residents.              (NAT SOUND quiet ambiance        of wind in field)                (TRACK) Carole and Bernard       Smith say they make              the pilgrimage from Indiana      on a regular basis               >>CAROLE SMITH: I remember       when Ed first started this      
and it was How's he going        to get people to come here?      But it just never stops.         I mean it just seems like        every year he's got more         and more and more. And it's      wonderful.                       (NAT SOUND - girls               with ladder)                     (TRACK) Perhaps it's             the liberation of open           space...perhaps it's             the serenity to be found here.   Ed and the artists will tell     you...it's inspiration           without encumbrance.             >>ED DADEY: It's                 the experience that you can      try something, you can           experiment and not worry         about failing.                   PLAYWRIGHT TERRENCE McNALLY      TALKS ABOUT HIS PROLIFIC         CAREER AND THE SOCIAL            BOUNDARIES HE PUSHES             THROUGH HIS WORK.                >>JB: Terrance McNally is        a name synonymous with theater   he is the writer of Frankie      and Johnny in the Claire de      The book writer of Kiss          of the Spider Woman              and the Full Monty just          to name a very select few        and his show Ragtime for which   he won one of his 4 Tonys.       And TerranceMcNally is here.     Welcome. You are also in town   
receiving the ACLU's Beacon      of Liberty Award. So I',         wondering with shows like        Ragtime which they are           singling out which deals         with race issues and class       issues at the turn               of the century. You've written   a lot of plays about gay men.    When you are working on these    pieces are you cognizant         of what social change            they might provoke?              >>TM: No, I would be too         selfconscious. I just try        in stay in the moment            with characters and think what   they are going through.          Ragtime being a musical I had    two brilliant collaborators      Lynn Ahrens and Stephen          Flaherty, my favorite American   working on the show, loving      the book, Doctorow is the real   hero , Edgar Doctorow, who       wrote the original novel, such   a profoundlyinspiring work.      But we had a great time          writing it. We knew it touched   on social issues, but we just   
tried to make it a good show     that would keep an audience      entertained and moved            and thoughtful for close         to three hours. It's a big       one. It's an epic.               >>JB: Do you take a moment       then to look back now?           >>TM: Yes, yes and when          people and touches them.         I think its changed people's     hearts. It's such a deeply       felt show. And the music adds    a dimension to it that is        something very very special.     I love Music Theater when it's   done well. I wouldn't call       the show operatic itsin          the best tradition of musical    theater Roger and                Hammerstein's back to Showboat   about very serious social        themes, entertaining             but with great heart and we've   stood in the back of theaters    around America and seen          audiences deeply moved by this   story. And its timeless          I think its as relevant today    as when he wrote it. Even when   the show is set at the turn      of the last century its always   seem very contemporary book     
to me.                           >>JB: Some artists admit this,   that when they have had          constant exposure like you had   or more intimate exposure        again they are tempted to go     back and make some changes.      Are you ever tempted to do       that with your work?             >>TM: I am, but not              with Ragtime. We worked long     and hard and well on it.         Theater is about                 collaboration. And when          you have the ideal partners,     I couldn't ask for better        collaborators on this.           And we were working              from a book that inspired us     every day. There isn't           a sentence in that book that     doesn't sing. We just had        so much fun working on it.       And we had a wonderful           supportive producer,             because it was a big show.       And we spent almost a year       working on it in Toronto         and getting it ready. That's     where it premiered, Toronto,     not New York. Audrey McDonald,   who was here last year,          she was a sensation,             and she was a sensation          in this too.                     >>JB: In terms of looking        at the plays about gay men,      like I mentioned before. Where   does season, fall season, fit   
in? Where a sit com is coming    out. Sort of this conversation   is happening yet again           about the evolution and how      acceptable it is? Have           you noticed a shift? We also     talk about how we see these      on both sides of the coasts      and not necessarily in other     pockets.                         >>TM: Absolutely. The show is    called the New Normal. I saw     the first episode                and the villain in the piece     is the homophobe. And it was     so matter of fact that these     two men were in a committed      relationship and were going      to adopt a child.                And I thought we have come       a long way since Will            and Grace andthat just went      off the air. So it's very        exciting the social change       just in that area alone that     I have experienced               in my lifetime. And I do hope    my work has somewhat been        a part of it. I do think         the theater;, entertainment t    is a wonderful way to reach      people's heart. And when         people in the news say I am      antigay, that's usually          an emotional reaction           
to something. They don't         understand intellectually why    they might have that knewjerk    reaction. But when they are      touched my characters and meet   gay men and women in a play,     a movie or TV and they start     to like, that is civil rights    moving it forward. The only      direction it should be going     in.                              >>JB: We have seen unfortunate   incidents. Terrible incidents    all over the middle east         with the embassies and this is   coming out of a piece of art     which I can't say that this      film which has outraged a lot    of the Middle east is            necessarily art, because it      seems to be cobbled together     and we don't knowthe interest    behind it. But to some degree    and this might be apples         and oranges you experienced      this outrage over your play      Corpus Christi, because it       depicted Jesus Christ as gay     and this disciple as gay         and you just had this terror     rained down on you. You had      death threats. What do you do    in a situation like that? How    much responsibility do           you feel when you know that      something like that might        happen? When it will trigger     this sort of effect?             >>TM: I think you try to say     the course. I think if there    
is a message in Christianity     it's that weare all divine.      And any one of else have         the same divinity inside of us   as Jesus Christ did. And gay     men and women have that          divinity. And that's all         the play is saying. I did not    feel that I was writing          a blasphemous indictment         of Christianity at all, which    of course the play was accused   of being by people who hadn't    seen it. And it sounds to me     what's going on now with this    film , its 70s minutes long.     It sounds like a trouble maker   got it on Arab networks          translated it just to inflame    people. And that's what was      happening with Corpus Christi,   troublemakers frankly            and anyone who experiences       the play its message             of profound love and humility    and deepest respect for Jesus    Christ. I think it reveals       the amount of homophobia that    exists in established            religion. The hierarchy         
of the churches and I think      that have a lot to answer        for frankly.                     >>JB: As I said, I was           comparing apples and oranges.    Yours is definitely f a piece    of art, not necessarily this     film. But I want to ask          you finally, what is left        in terms of what do              you to explore? Iknow            you started a career             as a journalist. So are ideas    constantly germinating?          I wonder if you are              intimidated by your own          success in way because           you have a lot of                expectations.                    >>TM: No, I surround myself      with people who keep me pretty   grounded. I am married           to a wonderful man who keeps     my feet on the ground. I never   worry about well running out     of things to write about. Now,   that I am getting older,         I think about mortality more     than I use to. I think maybe     my work is a little more         serious. I always thought it     was serious but a bit more       thoughtful perhaps,              but if think that's part         of it. Today, I was taking       a shower and decided I like      being older. Yesterday,          i didn't like it. But there     
are some nice things             about turning 74. One day        at a time this country gives     a writer so much to think        about. I can't imagine ever      saying gee I wrote everything    I wanted to write. I will be     babbling until the last          minute, I think                  JB: Terrance McNally, I have     waited to meet you, suite        frankly. Thank you so much       for coming.                      RENOWNED VIOLINIST RACHEL        BARTONPINE HAS A PASSION         FOR WHAT SHE CALLS               LIFECHANGING CLASSICAL MUSIC.    We all know how inspiring        music can be and very few        people know that more than       world renowned violinist         Rachel Barton Pine. Hi Rachel,   good to see you! Good to be      with you outside                 of the Sacramento community      Theater. You have a very         moving message behind            your music, tell me              about that.                      >> well, um.. I really believe   that classical music is of all   the wonder kinds of music that   exists,classical is the kind     that most brings people         
together, it's really            a universal language, a music    that's not of a particular       time and place but music that    moves all of us in the deepest   way possible and really          uplifts our spirit and it's      my mission to share classical    music with as many people        as I possibly can.               >> Now you fell in love          with the violin at a very        early age and boy did            you skyrocket to the top         quickly.                         >> Ever since I started violin   lessons at the age of 3,         I really felt that playing       the violin is what I was meant   to do with my life, it's         my calling, it's who I am        as a person and all              of the challenges I've had all   the way through the years have   never deterred me from that      path because during              my childhood and teenage years   my father was unemployed most    of the time and we never knew    where the nextscholarship was    going to come from, whether      a borrowed instrument and be     able to continue being able      to pursue my dream and holding   on to my faith that music is     the best way that I can share    my gifts with the world.        
>> You inspire so many people    through classical music, I'm     curious Rachel, how classic      music inspires you.              >> Oh man, that's a great        question. Well, I mean...        being a classical musician is    fulfilling on so many            different levels of course       there's all of the historic      interest in learning             about the composer'slife         and analyzing the score          and it's just very               intellectually stimulating       and then of course it's fun      kind of like a sport to get      to play all those fast licks     and all those challenging        notes and make yourself better   and better as you practice       and practice kind of like        doing Olympic figure skating     or something but all of that     is just background to what it    means to be on stage which is    really to fully experience       the emotions of the music        and even more importantly        to reach out to those            listening and share those        feelings with them so that       everybody gets caught up         in the music together            and classical music goes         farther than any other kind      of music in terms                of expressing absolutely every   possibleshade of emotion        
of the human experience.         I want to just share music       with absolutely everybody.       >> And that's what you're        doing here today                 with the Sacramento              Philharmonic. Rachel, such       a nice time speaking with you.   Thank you for being here         on Rob on the Road.              PIONEERS OF VIDEO ART, SANTA     FE'S STEINA AND WOODY VASULKA    It's no fun to go and say        today I am going to make         a masterpiece. That is           of no interest to me.            IN HIS OWN TIME, ARTIST ANDY     WARHOL PUSHED THE BOUNDARIES     OF WHAT DEFINED ART,             CHALLENGING EXPECTATIONS         WITH HIS PORTRAYALS OF POPULAR   CULTURE.                         He was constantly looking        at current events and looking    to newspapers, to magazines.     AND SHODEKEH IS A BEAT BOXER     TURNING THE TABLES               ON TRADITIONAL ART FORMS         Because there were some people  
who didn't like that I was       beat boxing for ballet.          ISLAMIC ARTIST UZMA MIRZA,       PAINTS ARABIC WORDS AS MUSICAL   NOTES COMBINING MUSIC            AND FAITH ...                    Every piece of art I do,         I can't explain how I did it.    It was meant to be.              PHOTOGRAPHER A.D. WHEELER HAS    FOUND ART IN THE DECAY           OF URBAN LANDSCAPES.             I guess I got bored              of shooting the normal           everyday stuff.                  NEXT TIME ON COLORES!           
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- ¡Colores!
- Episode Number
- 1926
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- Painter Eli Levin keeps the tradition of social realism alive. “I want to set up a problem. It’s not just 'yes' and 'no,' we can solve that; it’s a mess that I am trying to expose.” Farms feed our bodies and some say art feeds the soul. In Nebraska, an artists’ residency program called “Art Farm” is taking care of both. “It’s the experience that you can try something. You can experiment and not worry about failing.” Tony and Emmy-Winning playwright Terrence McNally uses his art to effect change. McNally is interviewed by Jared Bowen. “We knew it touched on social issues, but we just tried to make it a good show that would keep an audience entertained and moved and thoughtful for close to three hours.” Considered a child prodigy and currently touring worldwide, Rachel Barton is following her dreams. “Playing the violin was what I was meant to do with my life. It’s my calling. It’s who I am as a person.”
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- 2013-07-26
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- 00:26:52.278
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      Guest: McNally, Terrance
 
 Guest: Barton, Rachel
 Guest: Levin, Eli
 Interviewer: Bowen, Jared
 Producer: Kamins, Michael
 Producer: Walch, Tara
 Producing Organization: KNME-TV (Television station : Albuquerque, N.M.)
 
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- Chicago: “¡Colores!; 1926; Painter Eli Levin, “Art Farm,” Playwright Terrance McNally, Child Prodigy Rachel Barton ,” 2013-07-26, New Mexico PBS, American Archive of Public Broadcasting (GBH and the Library of Congress), Boston, MA and Washington, DC, accessed October 31, 2025, http://americanarchive.org/catalog/cpb-aacip-259f8bd86a6.
- MLA: “¡Colores!; 1926; Painter Eli Levin, “Art Farm,” Playwright Terrance McNally, Child Prodigy Rachel Barton .” 2013-07-26. New Mexico PBS, American Archive of Public Broadcasting (GBH and the Library of Congress), Boston, MA and Washington, DC. Web. October 31, 2025. <http://americanarchive.org/catalog/cpb-aacip-259f8bd86a6>.
- APA: ¡Colores!; 1926; Painter Eli Levin, “Art Farm,” Playwright Terrance McNally, Child Prodigy Rachel Barton . Boston, MA: New Mexico PBS, American Archive of Public Broadcasting (GBH and the Library of Congress), Boston, MA and Washington, DC. Retrieved from http://americanarchive.org/catalog/cpb-aacip-259f8bd86a6